12/3/25
BREAKING: TPUSA Throws Down The Gauntlet! Publicly Invites Me To Ask Questions. | Candace Ep 273


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1 (31s):
All right you guys. It's happening. It's happening. Everybody. Stay calm. After yesterday's episode where we went kind of for the jugular with Turning Point USA because really I think everybody in the entire world has had enough with the non-response trying to move on, trying to gaslight us on answering basic details. So we just went for it. And guess what? Turning Point has moved to formally respond to all the things that we have said and after a very long diatribe in which they wildly misrepresent the public and global investigation of Charlie Kirk's assassination, they at long last issued a public invitation or a challenge. I'm not sure what it is, but I accept, okay, quite literally all we have ever asked for were sensible answers to our basic questions about what transpired on September 10th.

1 (1m 24s):
And it looks like we're going to get those things. So major, major, when I am excited also later on in the show, what I have for you is The Game Lose Rapper is releasing a song that is entitled The Assassination of Candace Owens. And I have more questions. I've got questions. Am I allowed to have questions? Welcome back to Candace. What can I say other than we went Max, pause. Reflect.

1 (2m 5s):
I'm proud of everybody. I'm proud of the world. Every single person who was in my inbox giving me tips, the people inside of Turning Point USA who were leaking the donors that wrote public letters or donors that didn't write public letters but sent us messages encouraging us to keep going today feels like a win. Because guess what? It forced turning Point USA to finally respond. And that was the entire point. Okay? It Hasn been the point of refusing to let up even one second in this investigation. They wanted to simply be able to eulogize Charlie Kirk at a big memorial event and then they wanted us to simply move on and we didn't do that. Okay? So yeah, we should celebrate the fact that we kept up the pressure that we insisted that we have answers that even in this tremendous culture of A DHD and everyone's constantly being distracted by their iPhones, that we kept the focus, okay, turning Point is going, going to commit to a live streamed event where they are apparently going to answer all of these lingering questions.

1 (3m 8s):
And I would say these were pretty basic questions right outta the gates. Why they didn't do that right outta the gate. Nobody knows what we can hear them. Their explanation for why they didn't in just a moment because they sent Blake Neff out. Blake Neff by the way, is the producer of the Charlie Kirk show. Now he is kind of the rotating talent of the Charlie Kirk show. He was already featured with Charlie on the show. So that's not unusual. But I think we probably anticipated that Andrew Covet, who is the T-P-U-S-A spokesperson would have been the person to deliver this message. Maybe in theory that should have been his job. Maybe he's traveling. The point is we got Blake Neff and I wanna say, just to reiterate that I have always maintained that whatever is going on at Turning Point USAI have not felt that Blake Neff is one of the bad guys, okay?

1 (3m 56s):
I just have never gotten that particular vibe from him. I believe that when he speaks, he believes that he is telling the truth and maybe that's why they want him in front of the camera. He's been the only person it hasn been responding in a way that feels even remotely authentic. When he defends the actions of Mikey McCoy on that day, I I sense that he believes that he's telling the truth Anyways, let's listen to what Blake Neff had to say in its entirety. It's not gonna feel organic. Obviously he's reading from a piece of paper. This has probably been reviewed 12 times by many different lawyers 'cause that's how it works at big organizations and companies. But I don't fault him that we'll pause at certain moments 'cause I do wanna be able to respond throughout it.

1 (4m 37s):
It's a bit long. But I want to give them my platform as I always have made that offer to. So here is Blake Neff.

3 (4m 46s):
Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA people at Turning Point Action and people who work for this show, she has made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees. Yes, she has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie. She has suggested Michael is not his real name. It is, I have seen his birth certificate myself. She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife who works at Turning Point helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't.

3 (5m 29s):
By the way, she doesn't work on campus events.

1 (5m 32s):
Okay, so first and foremost, I actually never said that she helped plan the event. I said it was suspicious that Mikey McCoy's wife, that we never found out who did plan the event that we want. That was one of the answers that we wanted to know. And I said that she works in events. Still was not clear on what happened regarding Mikey McCoy. I think the entire world believes that his actions are suspicious because we have eyes and you don't get to wiggle out of that by pretending that us playing the words of his own father, Rob McCoy, who I think is highly suspicious in all of this, he has a suspicious background. We played his own words as he tried to sanitize someone who spent time in prison for being a sexual deviant, right?

1 (6m 13s):
For trying to take photos of young girls. I, I don't think he's a good guy and you're not gonna make us forget those things because you are trying to pretend like Mikey's actions were totally normal that day. They weren't. That's why I, I didn't make the public feel that way. Okay? I may have voiced how they felt, which everyone else is refusing to do, but I do believe that Mikey McCoy should have to answer for who he had on the phone right when the shot went off. So yeah, his father, his own father is the one that spoke about Charlie's notebooks and spoke about how Mikey McCoy was talented and it was Mikey McCoy who then jumped on Liberty University's stage for an event that was scheduled for Charlie Kirk.

1 (6m 60s):
So there you go. That's our perspective and I'm going to stand by it. Let's keep it rolling.

3 (7m 7s):
Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a quote inside job

1 (7m 16s):
It was unusual. That's a fact and you can quote me on that because I worked for Turning Point USA and I went on every tour, every tour since 2019 and typically those events are decided at least the semester before this came together very quickly. It is unusual and I don't know why you think that you are going to be able to disprove that notion when I have the emails to support that claim. Let's keep it rolling.

3 (7m 46s):
She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country and that turning point has lied about this happening.

1 (7m 54s):
Definitely never said turning point lied because you never responded. So that doesn't actually make any sense and this is why it's not good to have lawyers write things out because sometimes they're not so detail oriented. What we did was we showed at first that when I plotted these strange Egyptian jets that they were following Charlie and that was a concern 'cause I wondered if they were tracking Charlie. We then obviously realized that they were tracking T-P-U-S-A faith events and that many more times they were following and perhaps tracking Erica, you should be concerned about that. We find it odd that rather than being concerned or trying to get answers to why a foreign military jet would be on the ground during a time when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you're upset with us for asking questions about these jets.

1 (8m 48s):
Let's keep rolling.

3 (8m 49s):
She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died.

1 (8m 56s):
Never happened. That is not a quotation, that is just them saying that. So let's keep rolling.

3 (9m 4s):
She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died.

1 (9m 12s):
When you say suggested, it means that they're interpreting my words. What I said is another fact. They did not issue him first aid when he fell down. There was nobody who pulled out any gauze and tried to stop the bleeding and they've admitted to that in a sit down with Sean Ryan, Brian Harpo said it was because of the severity of the injury. I'm sorry again that we noticed something that stood out as unusual given the expertise and the amount of money that he was paying that supposed to be an elite team Rolling.

3 (9m 48s):
She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera. She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Bower, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns.

1 (10m 3s):
Okay? So yes, the SD card thing is unbelievably suspicious. It's not something that you would do neither would you just run up onto a grassy knoll and record yourself. Again, these are unusual actions and rather than trying to pretend like it's normal to record a selfie video of yourself and to prematurely announce that somebody is dead, maybe you should answer why all of that took place because you guys told lies about verifiable lies about why that took place. Because don't forget, Andrew Covet sat, sat next to you and said it was because people were stealing. People were stealing. You probably would wanna grab the very expensive cameras and not the SD card for an event that was being live streamed regarding Tyler Boyer.

1 (10m 46s):
I'm so glad we're gonna do this live streamed because I'm happy to present to you the exact name of the intern. And I didn't say that he abused him. I didn't say it was not consensual. I said that he likes younger boys. I don't mean like younger as in they're not of the legal age. I'm just saying they're a lot younger than him and yeah, I can give you the exact name of the intern that he hooked up with. That person was not at Turning Point USA, but I can also give you more than that as well as people that are currently working for Turning Point USA who said that Tyler Boyer and these are young men, tried to hook up with them after some events. So I'm glad we're gonna live stream that. Keep going.

3 (11m 27s):
She has suggested that T-P-U-S-A faith affiliated pastors like theologian, Frank Turk, who will have on in a moment and Pastor Rob McCoy are part of a military quote infiltration of Turning point either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are,

1 (11m 44s):
Yeah. So I do believe the Calvary Chapel, their history with Chuck Smith, the evidence that it was a militant CIA effort to infiltrate the Christian faith and to tie the Christian faith to the political ideology of Zionism. I think there's a lot of evidence for that and I'm happy to discuss that in a broader debate. I do think that things at Turning Point USA became a bit problematic when you started to, I would say almost hijack genuine Christian faith and sort of roll it into this idea that you must support Israel in order to be a Christian. That's kind of floating into more opinion. But I think well backed by the facts of the founding of the Cavalry Chapel Church during the decade of the sixties where the CIA was really just spiking the ball on Christians in general.

1 (12m 34s):
Let's keep going.

3 (12m 36s):
Even if not everyone has been named specifically though Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying he was quote betrayed by quote everyone,

1 (12m 51s):
Sorry, that was a dream that I had. And it is also a, a realization that it has been months people at Turning Point USA are in possession of text messages and the day before Charlie died, in which he wrote out to you and not just to people that work at Turning Point USA, but also security guards that he thought that they were going to kill him tomorrow explicitly. I find it highly unusual that you wouldn't share that information at all or that you would sit by and be quiet or at some, some points attack people that are trying to explore who they is. Because I don't think anybody believes that Charlie thought that a trans furry kid who had never been on uvu u's campus was going to kill him tomorrow.

1 (13m 40s):
And your silence during moments when people are lying like Josh Hammer when he said, Hey, this never happened, Charlie never blinked on Israel, makes you all look very, very suspicious. Lies are only necessary, okay? When you are covering something and if you are covering the truth, you are betraying Charlie. So I stand by that. Let's keep going.

3 (14m 6s):
She has said Charlie's murder quote had to be approved by Charlie's friends and then suggested those friends might have her murder too for quote, knowing the truth.

1 (14m 17s):
So you notice that's a little, that's like a Snopes tactic when he says the quote, it's actually not a full quotation. I never said that obviously in the context that he put it in that Charlie's friends quote had to know he was going to be murdered. That that, did I say the sentence had to know he was gonna be murdered? Perhaps, but we're gonna need to hear the full sentence because you're trying to context it in a way that is just just untrue. And I don't think it's necessary. If you're willing to have a conversation that you need to lie about. Anything that I've said, people have watched the show, they know exactly what I've said and I am, I tend to stand by what I've said, said, and I do stand by everything that I've said. Keep going.

3 (14m 55s):
She has made claims of financial impropriety and fraud at Turning Point, adding up into the millions of dollars, which again is not true. Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third party every year. He personally reviewed any signed off on every expense report and literally every single bill paid by the organization down to a single United States dollar. We have never missed a nine 90 deadline.

1 (15m 23s):
Okay? So immorality like financial impropriety does not necessarily mean that you committed true financial fraud. There's definitely financial impropriety at the company. I would say that if you are representing yourself as a charity and what you're actually doing is evaporating millions of dollars into various LLCs that have your name on it, that would be financial impropriety, right? Like you could say I'm a contractor, I'm this LLC, I'm that LLC, I'm not doing anything illegal, but it's, it's inappropriate. It's improper. Most people are not able to read those forms and won't understand what's happening to the the $80 million. And I think that those questions are of course valid and that you guys should have no issues answering them.

1 (16m 9s):
I am struck by the fact that you're still trying to conflate an annual audit with Charlie's explicit request to put together a Doge department seven days before he died. These are not the same. Ve now they're not the same. I know they're not the same. Okay? Everyone knows that Doge is not the same as the audits that are required for 5 0 1 c threes conducting an internal audit and having you still misrepresent. That makes us uncomfortable. Address the Doge that's got nothing to do with anything other than Charlie, right? Charlie felt that this needed to happen and inside sources at your own company say it was because he didn't know where the money was coming from or how quickly and where exactly the money was being evaporated to.

1 (16m 55s):
That passes the vibe check in terms of what Doge is about because of course Charlie could not have been establishing Doge for the last five years. 'cause that's a very new concept as of 2025, something that Trump put into place with Elon Musk and the Ram Swami, right? So yeah, you're still being dishonest, but carry on.

3 (17m 19s):
Candace has made other stranger allegations involving French paratroopers in maroon shirts, Egyptian Air Force planes flying out of Provo, Utah and potential underground assassins traveling through unseen tunnels at this. At one point in early November, she started wildly throwing suspicion on members of Utah Valley's soccer team for wearing hoodies. I could go on. There is always something new coming up and none of it ever pans out because from the start there has been nothing there.

1 (17m 51s):
Okay? So no, no matter how many times you keep pretending there's nothing there at the Egyptian planes, the whole internet understands that there's something there at the Egyptian planes, especially because you keep pretending like it's not weird. Like you're just like, it's not weird. No, this is normal. It's totally fine that these Egyptian planes, and also by the way, today it broke that that like the sa Saudi king was on this plane at some 200 23. We'll get to that later. And you guys are like, this is totally normal. This is just what happens at UVU. People just lay over into Wilmington, do things. It's, it's just so foolish. You guys have got to stop the gaslighting if you think your organization is going to survive. I mean some of that stuff is just untrue. Saying that I went after somebody for wearing a green hoodie is not true at all.

1 (18m 33s):
We never even covered the green hoodie. People on this show. I shared a picture when somebody asked for a picture 'cause they were trying to investigate and identify everyone who was there, which is valid. And the person wearing the green hoodie was not even upset about it. He responded. So it hasn nothing to do with me whatsoever. And by the way, it would probably feel better to the public if you guys were the ones that were asking questions about who was there on that day. I completely stand by what I said about the people that are wearing maroon shirts. They are going to, I will guarantee you represent a military unit somewhere. I'm very close to figuring out exactly which military unit that was. Again, trying to gaslight us and pretend our conspiracy theorists are like, that's stupid.

1 (19m 18s):
Not a good long-term strategy for turning point USA carry on.

3 (19m 22s):
The attacks and allegations from Candace are either lies or they are innuendos thrown around with a total reckless disregard for the truth so that Candace can manipulate and string along an audience of people who don't realize they are being played instead of being able to grieve properly. After one of the most heinous murders in American history, a murder many of us had to witness, my friends have had to endure harassment from people who have gotten whipped up by what Candace is saying. In fact, I would say we have suffered more harassment from these people than we have from Antifa supporters who overtly celebrate Charlie's murder.

3 (20m 2s):
And just like a lot of those Antifa members, many of these people take this delight in how gross and unpleasant they can be. What our friends have had to endure is not funny and it's not insignificant. It is evil. I have seen it.

1 (20m 18s):
Okay? Conflating people that are trying to figure out who murder Charlie Kirk with like Antifa is actually objectively funny. That's an unforced error. They should not have included that in the statement. Somebody in that room was like, should we say that? Should we not? And somebody said, no, we shouldn't say that. And then you somebody else in else in the room said, no, we should, let's keep it in. That second person was wrong. That should have been struck from the statement. It's very silly. Okay? It's very silly to attack your own audiences who are concerned and your own donors who are concerned and say you're Antifa. If you don't accept this absurd fed slap, if you're not gonna drink the Fed slap, then you are Antifa. Just not a good idea whatsoever. Okay? That is not what's happening here. You are not the victim. Charlie is actually, he's dead. And to pretend like you are too aggrieved to be able to answer the questions makes entirely no sense.

1 (21m 3s):
Obviously, if you were actually under a real amount of stress, if you actually were deeply upset that people had you on a list of suspects or thought that you were suspicious, you would just clarify things instantly. Immediately. It's so easy, it's free. If someone said, Candace, what were you doing when Charlie Kirk was shot? I'd be like, I was sitting down at my table prepping my show. Like the question doesn't offend me because I had nothing to do with Charlie dying. Okay? This is a psychological technique that is failing. It's failing for you. And you're upset because you thought that with time, with the passage of time, people would let the story go and they didn't. And these reasons that he's about to list for why they didn't respond and answer any questions are beyond ridiculous.

1 (21m 47s):
Let's take a listen.

3 (21m 49s):
For months we have received hundreds, thousands, I suspect emails and calls good asking us to respond. Yeah, people have wanted us to invite Candace on the show, but for a long time our approach was to say nothing. We did that for several reasons. First, we've first we thought that her prevarications were so absurd that nobody would believe them. We shouldn't have to answer questions about secret tunnels or Egyptian air force planes. That sort of thing is just, it's beneath contempt to respond to. The second reason we've said so little though is because there's a good rule of thumb which Charlie followed, do not feed the trolls. Focus on the mission reviving America, uplifting young people, making heaven crowded.

3 (22m 34s):
Don't give air to people who want to tear you down. And so discord. Lastly, we didn't respond because Charlie always viewed Candace as a friend, and we were holding out hope that she would return that friendship and stop what she was doing.

1 (22m 53s):
Okay? So the first thing he says there is, we didn't respond because it's beneath us. Like that's just not the right ad. I mean, that is an elitist attitude. It is beneath us to respond to the very people who showed up in scores because they were so moved by Charlie's assassination that they all poured into the Staples Center, right? And poured their tears out and made videos and donated it is beneath us to not res to, to then respond to questions that you have that are meaningful because we just think it's so stupid that you would suggest that the feds are involved in an assassination that's never happened in American history. What? What?

1 (23m 33s):
So that's, that's a ridiculous thing. The second thing he says there is, Charlie always said, don't feed the trolls. Well, that flies into the face of what he says thereafter, where he says, Candace and Charlie, were friends. So I'm not a troll. I'm not a troll. I'm not trolling. I'm not someone who's hated turning point and wanted turning point to fail. I'm actually the exact opposite of that. And that's why the people believe in me and they trust me because they feel that I'm the only one that's acting right in this situation. Who wouldn't want to have every stone unturned if they cared about somebody, who wouldn't want to have every question answered? Who wouldn't be immediately suspicious to see Egyptian military jets? Who wouldn't go?

1 (24m 13s):
Why the hell were these jets around turning point way before, years before Charlie's assassination? Who is on these jets instead? You're mentioning the Egyptian planes for the fourth time. So I would like to recommit everybody that is watching this to figuring out what the hell's going on with the Egyptian planes because they're nervous about them. Okay? They're mentioning so many times, they're just trying to give the vibe that this is so crazy. No, they are fearful. The Egyptian planes hold the key. And that is obvious even in Blake Neff's statement. But yeah, I am not a troll. Okay? And people followed what felt to them as authenticity, and it was not you. They were not getting that from Charlie's closest friends. Why is that? They weren't getting that from Charlie's most loved pastors.

1 (24m 56s):
Why is that? Don't blame me for the bad energy that you exuded, okay? Don't blame me for the fact that you didn't pass the gut check with the public. That's why you're doing this, okay? That is why you are doing this, because your strategy failed. In fact, this is your old school turning point before they put on the faith pants. This is your old school Turning point lesson and what the free markets are. The free markets saw what you were offering, right? And they saw what, what I was offering you were offering, we should accept this and move on. And I was saying, we need to investigate this. And the free markets said no to turning point USA.

1 (25m 38s):
Anyways, let him, let him take this away in terms of what he thought, I guess was the best way to be a friend to Charlie Kirk. What did he think was the best way for them to show that they were friends with Charlie Kirk? Keep going, Blake,

3 (25m 52s):
But a week from now, it's going to be three months since Charlie's murder, Candace has not changed her behavior. She has continued to spread falsehoods about Charlie's friends, and she continues to concoct new ones about new people. She's using these falsehoods to enrich herself while dividing the conservative movement at an absolutely critical time for this country.

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1 (26m 49s):
I have to applaud that audacity. I have to applaud it. You do. You have to applaud it. These, excuse me, here, but like I'm trying not to swear these men, okay? This, this, this company, these amazing lads over here have the audacity to accuse me of enriching myself when they were out there selling t-shirts, okay? Of what Charlie died in to enrich themselves. So were they giving those T-shirts away for free at the Staples Centers? No. They were selling kit of what Charlie died in to the tune of 80 million plus dollars that they made in the first three weeks.

1 (27m 30s):
Okay? They made their entire budget for the year in the first couple of weeks following Charlie's assassination. And they are attacking me with zero proof that I've made a single dollar off of Tar assassination. I did not sell a cup. I did not sell a mug. Okay? All I did was do what I already do for a living, okay? I podcast and I investigate things. I investigate things that I feel passionate about. Sometimes it's kamala's genealogy when she's saying she wants to be the president and things aren't making sense, and I sense that she is lying. Sometimes it's Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds when they try to destroy a man's life who's not even on my quote unquote political team.

1 (28m 13s):
Sometimes it's brae and why we are colluding with nations to cover the obvious fact that Brigitte was born a male, and this time it's personal and it's you. Do you wanna know what all of these investigations have in common? Liars who lie and think that the public is too stupid to seek through their lies? That is how we got into this. Okay? I did not sell anything you did that You guys did, that You guys continued to do that you guys wanted to just move on. And to grift off of Charlie's legacy, I dedicated myself to figuring out who murdered him.

1 (28m 55s):
So anyways, he does get to the point here, which is that they are willing to finally address things head on. So I will let Blake say that.

3 (29m 7s):
And far too often we here have heard from ordinary people, people who loved Charlie and who Charlie loves so much. In return, these people have expressed the worry that we are staying silent out of cowardice or as some sort of tacit admission that some of the attacks are true. Neither is the case. Our silence has never been, and it will never be equal to complacency or approval. Still, we had decided Charlie would not allow this to go on. Charlie was not a coward. Charlie was a fighter. Charlie would not allow someone to spread lies about the people closest to him with impunity, and he would feel ashamed if other people were stepping up to defend his friends while he never did so himself.

3 (29m 53s):
Candace has mentioned several times that the ball is in our court. So here's what is going to happen in the near future. There will be a live stream here in Phoenix where we address in a clear and comprehensive way, the claims and accusations, the false accusations that have been made against Charlie's family, friends, and the people here at Turning Point. We plan to walk through everything carefully and thoroughly. If Candace is available, we would sincerely welcome her participation in that live stream at our studio here in Phoenix. At this point, we believe the ball is back in her court. Our motivation for doing this is not out of any obligation to Candace.

3 (30m 35s):
It is about honoring Charlie. We feel a deep responsibility to protect his legacy, his work, and the truth. I feel that I owe Charlie everything in my life. It I feel it immensely. And that is why we feel compelled to speak clearly and openly. Now, we'll have more on this in the near future.

1 (30m 58s):
Yay. Hey, finally, you didn't have to get through all that shade that you were throwing me to get to the point that you were willing to answer questions, okay? Because that's what Charlie did for a living. How could you guys think that you were just going to continue on and pretend like people asking meaningful questions was somehow an attack? That's what he did for a living. He stood up on college campuses and he debated people and he sat there principally and debated people because he felt that he had the moral high ground, okay? And that if those people disagreed with him, he could bring them over to his side. You guys have been actually acting and embodying the opposite of Charlie Kirk's spirit, okay?

1 (31m 42s):
And you did it even in this, it was like one big character assassination, and it wasn't to me, that's what you guys don't understand. You're not attacking me. You are attacking millions of people around the world who watched a man, an innocent man be publicly executed and then watched what felt very much like the state collude to feed us absolute horseshit about what took place on that day. Okay? 30 odd six bullets to not get stopped by human necks because they eat healthy, they don't. And yes, you guys are a part of that apparatus of people who made us feel, and you've expressed it here like you were too good to answer questions.

1 (32m 25s):
We are already said, I got on stage and I told you that I'm Charlie's pastor. I told you I'm his best friend. I told you you guys have even allowed people to inject themselves into his legacy that Charlie didn't even like. And we're supposed to believe you're doing this because you're his friend, because you're committed to truth. You sat there and allowed the very people who pressured Charlie towards the end of his life to try to claim his whole legacy. And you're pretending we are the ones that are immoral. You're upset because you got caught lying. You're upset because you got caught with your pants down. But you cannot blame me for that. Okay? These were your own errors.

1 (33m 6s):
These were your own lies. And I was not going for a single second to let up on the pressure. In fact, I had been so strategic that I had been holding on to certain information hoping that you would acquiesce to have a public conversation because I wanna look you in the eye and I wanna challenge you to lie to me because I care deeply about what happened to Charlie on that day. I don't think we're getting the truth. And I do believe that because you are not forthcoming about the information that you have about Charlie texting you guys and saying that he thought he was going to be assassinated that very next day, okay? The day that he died, Charlie knew, said he thinks he was going to be killed tomorrow. And you guys are sitting on that information.

1 (33m 45s):
So I'm the right person. Yeah, I'm the right person to sit across from you and to ask you questions, right? Some things that you told me on that day, they're not adding up. I think the entire world would like to see this discussion. I think you can do it in Charlie's honor. I'll sit there. You pick a place in time. We could have done this today, by the way. You didn't have to read all that. Okay? We, we all have tech. We could have done a live stream. We could schedule a live stream. We could raise money. Turning point USA if you promise to answer every question that I have, okay? And it's not hard. It's, it's not difficult if you are telling the truth to answer questions. When you are emoting so much and you're upset at the inquiry and you're playing this game like you're David Hog and Aya, I survived Parkland.

1 (34m 34s):
So how dare you question my authority on anything, not a good long term strategy. It's not going to be effective long term. And I think you're learning that lesson because three months on with the entire mainstream media on your side and attacking me, which you guys didn't even stand up for me when you knew they were lying about me, you stayed mom. That in and of itself, you should be ashamed of. You should be ashamed to sit across from people who did everything they could to stop Charlie's rise, breaking bread with them and refusing to have a conversation with me and ve now that I cared about Charlie, have you no shame. We're gonna find out.

1 (35m 14s):
You can pick the place, you can pick the time. I say we do it tomorrow. We don't need to plan for this. We don't need lawyers in between us lawyer statements. It's not how I roll, okay? I don't care about any of that. I want it to be authentic. Like I said, you can take the money, you can, we can raise money live for this conversation. That is how badly the world is demanding it. So I accept it with whistles and bells, everything I fully accept. I say, let's do it tomorrow, let's do it tomorrow. And my only ground rule is no assassinations. Okay? No assassinations, no funny business. You can't pretend you're gonna do it and then can just died a mysterious accident. Okay? We'll be right back after a quick break.

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1 (38m 13s):
All right, you guys, let's get into some stories. I'm laughing at the live chat right now. They really think turning Point's gonna kill me. They're like, don't go, don't go in person. It's a set up. It's a trap. I really, guys, I think that they would be, they would kind of figure that they would be blamed for that. I, I think we're okay there. But let's start with the Pentagon because this is interesting. The United States Pentagon, in case you don't know, is the complex that houses our Department of Defense. It's a massive complex, right? There is arguably no more relevant building to communicating to the American people about foreign threats. That's what they do is quite literally the nerve center.

1 (38m 53s):
The United States Armed Forces headquarters for the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force. And recently, because the American government wants the world to no longer take us seriously as a nation or something, they decided we undergo a quote unquote press Corps makeover, ostensibly to let in new, independent, more trusted journalists. And some of them are okay. James O'Keefe, obviously formerly of Project Veritas. He's very much trusted. Matt Gaetz, I like him very much. But some of the people that they let in are almost the exact opposite of trustworthy and are just radically pro Zionist. Like they will lie, steal, cheat, and figuratively murder or a figure, I guess literally allow Israel to murder without asking any questions.

1 (39m 36s):
And so that's why they're being let in. Most notably, obviously Laura Loomer, she's totally nutty. And I don't say that in a way of like, I'm just, this is an ad Hom and attack. I mean like she has psychotic issues. Allowing Laura Loomer into a national defense complex is actually sort of just an indication to just how committed they are to laundering the reputations of anyone as long as they say, I support Israel. Because Laura Loomer is quite literally so deranged that she once handcuffed her, stu herself to the Twitter headquarters because they banned her account. Okay? That's like, and she wore the yellow star of, sorry, of David. When I met her, she was crying tears because they took away her check mark. She deeply, deeply cares about social media in a way that is just unhinged.

1 (40m 19s):
Okay? Now, she is apparently not allowed to own a gun because of various psychotic events that required her hospitalization. But due to her commitment to Zionism, which in a Zionist defense seems like a psychopathology is a prerequisite, the media is now trying to mainstream her and make us think that she's like a serious person. So our government, the Pentagon, decided we credential her at this time. She's a part of the New Press Corps that we can trust. Laura has probably been the one of the more prominent gaslight when it comes to Charlie Kirk's assassination. She hated Charlie when he was alive and now wants everyone to honor him by not prodding the narrative surrounding his death.

1 (41m 1s):
Literally a couple of weeks before he died, she called Charlie a charlatan, a political opportunist that he wasn't pro-Trump simply because he hosted Dave Smith, who was anti-Zionist. He is also Jewish for a debate with Josh Hammer, who's a radical Zionist like herself. At one of his events, Charlie believed in free speech and he believed in debate. And so that was her reason for attacking him briefly showing you this tweet from her. Not even worth reading in its entirety, but this is the tweet that she sent out. And then Charlie died a couple, couple of weeks later and she completely switched and now thinks that she's guarding his leg legacy. Anyways, she was beside herself with Glee this morning sharing news that another Zionist influencer named Cam Higby, who has also now been credentialed by the Pentagon, decided we ask the perhaps billion dollar question to the Pentagon's Press secretary, a young woman named Kingsley Wilson about the foreign angle of Charlie's assassination.

1 (42m 3s):
Now, I obviously reported that the French Foreign Legion were apparently on the ground on the day of Charlie Kirk assassination. So here is Cam Higby, who I guess is playing dress up as a reporter, asking the Pentagon's Press Secretary a question about the most viral story for about a week pertaining to France's participation in the biggest political assassination it hasn taken place since JFK, I would say. I think that's fair. He, here's our New Press Corps guys take a listen to.

1 (42m 45s):
Actually, first, let's focus in on Cam Higbee's question. The way he asks it is, I think worthy of highlighting. Take a listen.

5 (42m 54s):
Absolutely. I'm Kingsley Wilson. I'm the press secretary here at the Pentagon. We're in the Pentagon Briefing room and it's been fantastic. Get to come to the Pentagon every day, and now you all do it as well. Yeah.

6 (43m 4s):
So this is my first question, and don't laugh. Does the DOW have any evidence at all of a French military plot to assassinate Candace Owens?

1 (43m 17s):
Okay, here's my first question. Don't laugh. It's like two girls getting their nails done. Okay. Okay. Let me ask, we're like a sleepover, okay. Okay, okay. Okay. I have So we can tell you don't laugh. Don't laugh, don't laugh. Is this supposed like, is this supposed to make us think that this is not propaganda? Are we going, this is cool? Is this the new strategy? All the cool kids don't even ask the feds questions. All the cool kids just get in line and do whatever they say. All the cool kids just think it's beyond crazy to consider that the state would assassinate people, even though that's what we do. That's what the CIA does. We just murder people around the world. But that's crazy talk. And so they're gonna make it, it's like too cool to even answer.

1 (43m 57s):
Take it away, Kingsley.

5 (43m 59s):
That is an interesting question. Not that I'm aware of, but ve now interesting question. I can try to find out and maybe let ve Now I think that might be more of a law enforcement matter though.

1 (44m 12s):
No, I, I think actually the Department of Defense, this would be a good matter for You guys to take up of whether or not foreign governments are plotting assassinations of American citizens. Feels like this might be the right department to me. And I'm not laughing. So when I say to you guys, when I stress to you guys that you should not be signing up for war, you should not be signing up for the military. You should not get involved in this obvious war that they're planning that's coming soon. This exact moment between these two people is what I'm referring to. It's like a rare glimpse into the elitist perspective of our government. Like our job, I guess, is to work and to deposit money so that they can build themselves complexes like the Pentagon, which is a 6.5 million square foot residence office building.

1 (45m 6s):
Okay? It is the second largest office building in the world, 6.5 million square feet. And they built it with our money so that we could have some sort of an illusion of being protected by our government. Like we could actually call them and say, Hey, I have very specific information and accounts that you can trace because the president played of France allegedly paid $1.5 million for my assassination. And by the way, I have evidence they had French foreign Legion on the ground day that Charlie got assassinated. They're not gonna respond to that, right? That's all supposed to be an illusion when it comes down to it, getting that credible evidence after a televised event, essentially a televised event of a public execution L ol get back to work slaves, we're trying not to laugh at you questioning whether or not a 30 odd six can be magically stopped by a human neck.

1 (46m 4s):
How dare you ask any questions or speak to us about states coordinating assassinations and are You guys still talking about the Epstein files? That's the, that's that's the attitude. They think this is good pr, like the Zionist accounts are sharing this and they're going L ol. I don't know that the American government has ever been more, I don't know if they've ever been more out of touch to the American people than to see this as a, they're like, send it around the press. Ha ha. The Pentagon is laughing at foreign assassination. They don't take anything seriously. Yeah, we just watched Trump get shot at and his ear clipped. We just watched another person try to assassinate Trump on the Gulf field, and then we watched Charlie Kirk die publicly.

1 (46m 47s):
But L ol, I'll get back to you. We'll get back to you. That's not what we're here for. Get to work slaves again. There is no left or right. It's just the elites. It's the media apparatus that protects those elites and then the rest of us who are supposed to be slaves. Okay? The elites own everything. They own every one. And if somebody actually breaks free, right? If they have an individual in the matrix who creates something that they cannot control or buy, then there are only a couple of options for that individual. Okay? The state responds and they say, we will destroy you reputationally. We will call you crazy. Go after reputation, make up allegations against you.

1 (47m 28s):
We will bankrupt you. We will imprison you or we will kill you. That's the reality of the world that we live in, okay? We don't live in a meritocracy. It's not a free nation. You ha They have to be able to control you. And the timing of me speaking about this is so perfect because this article appeared in Fortune yesterday. This is the headline inside the economics of Candace Owens's Media Empire. And the Macron lawsuit threatening to unravel it. They went with this like they're proud of this, like a lawsuit can unravel what they're calling an empire is actually just a mom from home who got fired and rejected from literally nation. They tried to destroy me last year. They took everything. They just tried to destroy my reputation, tried to break my friendships, and I survived.

1 (48m 11s):
Okay? And that angers them. And so this article is written with such elitism, the hope that the state will step in and just break it, just bankrupt it. This is an actual quotate quotation. The lawsuit, it re, the lawsuit is set to test whether the controversy as currency that made Owens rich and gave her a media brand that reaches tens of millions of people can survive. What experts say will be an immensely costly legal battle. Yeah, we're gonna bankrupt Candace Owens. That is our intent. The experts are saying that we can do it because we can't control her. She wouldn't sell out not to the military complex that we live in.

1 (48m 54s):
Not to big companies. Not to corporations. She wouldn't turn the eye when Palestinians were being genocided by Israel. And we have no other options are, we're running out of options here. So we've got a killer or we've got a bankrupt her and we're saying we're signaling that we're gonna bankrupt her. That's how this thing works. We're telling the truth, by the way. That's why I'm being sued. And they're not lying thus far in the Brat Macron lawsuit. We have paid over a quarter of a million dollars and we haven't even had our first day in court. Okay? That's the matrix. That is the matrix. And I will again, assert to these people, I will never bow the knee to evil. I will never bow the knee to bend the knee, rather to people that harm children.

1 (49m 40s):
You'll, you'll never see me bend the knee to that ever bankrupt me. If that is what makes you feel good, because at the end of the day, it feels like we are existing in a time where you are only catalyzing your own demise. Like it's, people have never been more awake and more in tune. And the focus on Charlie Kirk's assassination proves that you, you couldn't make that go away. Speaking of which Charlie Kirk, whose death is exposing this matrix in ways that I do not even think that we can fully comprehend in this moment just yet. We asked the question and we can't find the answer as to where JIT Macron was on the dates of the Egyptian plane was flying around America. Just like a six day gap and JI'S schedule. And now of course, especially as we have learned about Delaware and the DuPont French connection and the French Foreign Legion non-answer that we're getting just gaslighting, that we are getting, it feels like an even more relevant and rational question to be asking and somehow made even more interesting now that we know or that we've learned.

1 (50m 42s):
And thanks to the internet luge and the YouTubers that put this together at an hour and a half before Charlie Kirk was assassinated in Utah, Donald Trump and Emmanuel Macron had a phone call. It Hasn been recorded in Emmanuel Macron's public calendar, which has been released. You can see that he had the phone call with Donald Trump at six, sorry, at at this would be 6 45, obviously PM in French time. That's 10:45 AM in Utah time, 10:45 AM Utah time is when they had this phone call and look, that could be nothing. There's a lot going on in the world, obviously. And we also know that there has been a lot of discussion about Ukraine and there's a million reasons that Emmanuel Macron and him could have had that poorly timed phone call.

1 (51m 33s):
But it would be great if a press member could not l ol and say, what was the nature of the phone call? Just so that we know, right? These are questions, I think it's fair for us to ask, with everything that's coming up and the lack of a true response that we're getting from anyone, it hasn the means to answer these questions. Anyways, you guys we're almost at overtime here, but in other assassination news, I wanted to mention to you that The Game, who is a hip hop rapper, is releasing an album and he has a song on his track list in this upcoming album that's entitled The Assassination of Candace Owens. I'm having like the best year ever or something. I don't know.

1 (52m 14s):
Like why, why, why The Game? The Game? Why has it gotta be song number 13? What's going on this better Not be predictive programming. Okay, ve now how Hollywood gets down, okay, we're reading your books. Anyways, he was asked this question, this exact question, why? And he gave an answer and here's what The Game had to say.

7 (52m 34s):
So you got this new mix tape dropping, and then there's this like one track called The Assassination of Candace Owens. Yeah. Why that title?

8 (52m 44s):
'cause recently I've been seeing like conspiracy theories and ve now about Candace Owens from herself self-admitted. She feels like people were conspiring her. So what it was is more so an assassination of the character. So I just used that because it was like current news, but it's not, the song is not about Candace, ve

7 (53m 5s):
Now. Oh, okay. So it's just a little bit deeper than, okay.

8 (53m 8s):
Yeah, I'm a rapper. We use metaphors, ve now.

7 (53m 10s):
Okay, but aren't you, I mean, are you worried about Candace coming for you about this?

8 (53m 14s):
I mean, oh yeah. No, I'm not the, nah, I'm not worried about Candace. But then again, you gotta hear the song.

7 (53m 19s):
Okay. So she'll understand if she hears a song

8 (53m 22s):
Maybe. I mean, the thing is she said the people, people were trying to assassinate her. So all I did was say it too. Ve. Now what I'm saying. So again, the song is not about her, but Candace Owens man, she real smart, really intelligent woman. But if she comes for me, I mean ve now it is what it is.

1 (53m 42s):
It is what it is. There's beef in these streets, okay? There's Beef 50 the streets, and you better be scared. 'cause maybe I am coming for you, okay? I could be coming for you. I might drop a whole album. I might drop a whole mix tape too. Okay. Anyways, I think it is a form of flattery. Obviously I'm friends with Yay. And he makes music and they do use a lot of metaphors. So I'm not offended by this. Do I love the tying? Could I get a break for six months maybe and not have that title be there? Sure. But I'm totally okay with this. I think it's kind of cool. I actually kind of think it's cool. I hope the song lyrics are cool and it's not a dis track, and it's not gonna be like Eminem crying about me on a whole album. But I look forward to the song I hope you use.

1 (54m 23s):
Also, feel free to use a little audio from the podcast. That would be cool. You could, you could use a strip of me saying something. Everything is fak and gay would be super, super fly. Everything is fak and gay. Please put that in the song. That's my only request.

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1 (56m 46s):
I mean, look, I'm obviously the Game's muse. I don't think that's a stretch. I'm obviously the Game's muse. I'm his muse for this upcoming album, so that is now a fact. And I had a lot of muses for my book, which is vitally out. MAKE HIM A SANDWICH. You guys can get that on Amazon. People have been asking about international shipping. If you go to MAKE HIM A SANDWICH dot com. We are now shipping to Canada, and you can get those copies for 20% off if you buy it directly from the website as opposed to Amazon. So head to MAKE HIM A SANDWICH dot com, or you can head to Amazon if that is easier for you. And but signed copies can only be purchased on Candace Owens dot com. Also, we have some new Merch.

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1 (58m 30s):
I'm gonna recognize game. I think that's fair Game. Gonna recognize game, and you guys can now also gift someone a membership to Club Candace or the book club on our website. Just head to the About section on the website and scroll down to want to gift a membership. And if your answer's yes, you can do that now. All right, top comment from yesterday's episode. Somebody writes, the worst part of being awake is realizing there are way more evil people on this planet than I ever thought possible. I actually don't think there's more. I think they have a tremendous amount of power. I think they have control over the military, and I think that power will wane if we stop subjecting ourself to their systems, their financial systems, their peer pressure systems, Hollywood, ve now the adoration that we had for stars and we followed their trends.

1 (59m 23s):
And if we actually studied where it all came from, which is incredibly evil indoctrination, quite literally doctrines of evil, which is guiding that movement, it's guiding that theology, rather, I spoke about it more at length with Russell Brand on his show, so that should be coming out soon. But we have to become educated about where it stems from. There's less of them, but they have a lot of power and they have a lot of flu, a lot of influence, and they have ve now blackmailed people that are in powerful positions. There's definitively more of us. That's why they wanna kill us. Obviously, that's why they want to drug us and keep us dumb, is because the numbers are not on their side. So we have to make sure it's not just the numbers, but also that the ideology is not on their side. The answer to people that want less families, not because they want you to have to be more efficient and to climb the corporate ladder.

1 (1h 0m 8s):
They just want less of you. There needs to be less slaves if you wanna maintain control and you don't want the risk of a revolution to come down upon you. That's the, that's the true answer, is that that's why they promote all of these things. That's why they want people to have less children is because they want to increase their numbers while decreasing hours. And so we need to be radical about not also giving our children to the system. If you can and you can, you absolutely can homeschool your children. Pull 'em outta the system. Don't send your kids to college. Usury is another one of their tactics. Don't rack up debt. I made that mistake and learned nothing. It's just more time for them to indoctrinate your children. Be bold in changing the system.

1 (1h 0m 48s):
Be radical in your response of taking ownership over your own home. That's what I would say in response to that. Goodness wins. Goodness wins in truth, Christ has already won. More comments from today. Meryl writes, careful Candace, they may be betting that you won't be available for a sit down in the next few weeks. Also, watch your sources. Sometimes the feds plant sources, sources with almost good information in order to humiliate their target later. Yes, I'm very aware of that. And we are very cautious about our sources and sometimes we, it hasn happened where, and we haven't gone, fortunately, we haven't made a public mistake, but we'll keep going. And then I'll be like, I think this is good. And then Mark will be like, I don't know about this. Or Skye will be like, I don't know about this.

1 (1h 1m 29s):
And that is what takes us so much time every day is we're a small team, but we're, we're constantly having to debate ourselves before we put something out. So thank you for that. Riley writes, they didn't answer any of your questions. They only brought up speculations that you made throughout the series. I hope you don't go there in person for your own safety. It is so sad that we have reached a time where you guys are legitimately concerned about my safety. And I get that. I get that. I feel like there is definitely something military that happened when Charlie got assassinated. And I think our lack of comfort comes from perhaps their refusal to acknowledge that. I think they, their response is what makes you guys feel fearful.

1 (1h 2m 9s):
But truly, I don't think turning point USA is so silly and stupid that they would coordinate another, coordinate an assassination on their campus and then think they're gonna be like, that just happened. I don't, it was all weird. She ate a bad sandwich or something. But it is sad. It really is a, a marker of the times that we live in that You guys truly feel this way. Angie Lynn writes, T-P-U-S-A will lie about everything as they have been doing. Do not trust this for one second. You and your family safety money, everything is compromised. Team Candace Christ is King James, gray Rice, the T-P-U-S-A response seemed fake calculated, scared that guy's body language was just completely off. And he was literally speaking from a script.

1 (1h 2m 50s):
Yeah, he's speaking from a script. But I will say the thing that felt genuine was at the very end when he said, I owe everything to, I owe everything to Charlie. That's when he went off script. I, I don't know that they remember or know how to be authentic like that anymore. They're gonna find out because I'm very authentic and us having a face-to-face. I think it's the best way to answer this. Look, I came from turning point USA so you guys know that me doing this, it, there's, there's an element of heartache. You don't go into an organization and help to build it up because you one day hope that the founder of it is going to be assassinated so that you can destroy it. The, the very thing that you helped to build in a very big way. I ve now I contributed greatly to turning point USA success.

1 (1h 3m 31s):
And they, they would never deny that. And so it's sad. It is really sad to see this sort of elitist direction that they're taking in you. Oh, we thought you guys would be smarter than to listen to her. Oh, You guys are Antifa. What is that? It's such crap. James Gray writes, sorry, I reread that one. Tara writes, licensed psychotherapist here. This is obviously an attempt to psychologically manipulate and a terrible one at that. I would gladly put my license on the line at this point to help in even the smallest of ways holding you and your family in prayer. Candace, keep up the prayers. Keep up the prayers. Brittany Watson writes, Candace, you are not just going max, you are going scorched earth. And after watching Monday's episode, when you said that you are not some basic bi, I was like, girl, take my money.

1 (1h 4m 16s):
Thank you for being the world's best crime fighting superhero. Ve Now, I always think back to this interview that Kanye gave before I knew who he was. And I I always loved Kanye. I loved his music. I loved the code of his music, which is you have to believe in yourself because the whole world is gonna tell you you can't. And as soon as you step into the arena and you think you've won and you start having any modicum of success, the pressure actually only levels up. And people that you thought that you would be allies with, you find to be your enemies. Like that's kind of the coded message of Kanye's music. But there's this interview that he gives where he says somebody, I don't know what they asked him, but he responds and he says, VE Now if you're a fan of Kanye West, you're not a fan of Kanye West.

1 (1h 4m 56s):
You're actually a fan of yourself. You believe in yourself and you think that you can, you can do something in this world. And I feel the same way. I think that the people who think that they're fans of mine, you're not fans of Candace. You believe in yourself. You believe that we can actually change things, and you believe that you should be able to fight for truth, and you're not going to be influenced by people that are taking money to make videos and say things like, there's that thing, there's that spark inside of you is kind of what I got when Kanye said that. It's not me. It's the spark that you see in me. It's the audacity to be yourself and to think your own thoughts and to keep going when the whole world tells you, tells you no. So that's how I feel.

1 (1h 5m 37s):
Candice go, max. I love that someone picked up that name as their username. Thanks for the honest investigations. The truth shall set us all free. Thanks for the USS Liberty episode as well. To this day, the best interview that we have ever given, we were all, you could feel a spiritual movement in this room. When we interviewed Phil Turney of the USS Liberty, I'll never forget that interview. It transformed me. It was a major turning point in my life. And thank You guys more. I mean, I'm, I'm so grateful to you guys and I hope ve now that I start all of my prayers with gratitude because I started realizing that sometimes when you pray, you're, you're asking for a lot. But if you start with gratitude of the things that you're thankful for, like ve now when you come to God and you're like, I would like to, I'm grateful for my health, I'm grateful for this, I'm grateful.

1 (1h 6m 23s):
By the time you get through all the things that you're grateful for, you're like, man, do I really wanna lodge any complaints? It's a good way to, to pray. And I always say that I am grateful for the people around the world that believed in me and that continue to believe in me. And yeah, sometimes I make mistakes. I get time zones wrong, but at least you guys can see that my heart is in the right place and I really do just genuinely want the answers. So I'm glad that we are a long glass going to get them from turning point USA. It sounds like, like I said, I'll do this tomorrow. I don't have to be in person. We can live stream this. I think that people trust me to represent all of the questions that we have and we can have the money go to Turning Point USA every dollar that's raised.

1 (1h 7m 4s):
I would gladly sacrifice that to the organization. That's how much it means to just be able to get these questions answered. Anyways, you guys, we will see you tomorrow

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12/2/25
Turning Point Has Been Keeping A BIG Secret. Did Charlie Know About It? | Candace Ep 272

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2 (30s):
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I'm gonna ask you a question. It's actually a riddle that we're all familiar with. What came first, the chicken or the egg? That's what's on my mind. That's what on my mind really all day. Because yesterday we were explaining to you guys this sort of random coincidence, maybe not a coincidence of the FBI seemingly choosing to work in offices that are kind of being run by like French royalty in essence, right? These old French American families. Now, why would our FBI do that? Surely they would have been aware that they were choosing to work in buildings that might potentially have some foreign interests. But then ve now what it clicked, the chicken came before the egg.

2 (1m 13s):
Of course. Don't be ridiculous. That's the answer to the riddle l ol to the American history that's taught to us in the public schools. The French helped to establish the United States. They came over and they helped us win our big independence from the big bad Brits. And then what? They just left us alone. It was just an act of charity like, we're good. We want nothing in return. We just want you guys to be free. Does that make sense to you? Come on. Turns out, actually, and you may have known this, maybe I'm just American ignorance, but our FBI was founded by the French in theory, the FBI really is in France's building over in Wilmington, if you think about it for a long time.

2 (1m 53s):
And I have been now been thinking about this for a long time. So Welcome back to Candace. I actually want to begin this episode with a comment from yesterday's episode because ve now we ran that poll wondering whether or not the public agreed with me about my lawsuit, me being filed by Burjeet Macron and me being sued by Burjeet and Emmanuel Macron. And whether or not it was just one big federal setup meant to bankrupt me.

2 (2m 34s):
And here is an answer that we got in the comment section. Look at this. I believe that the purpose of Macron's lawsuit was that it was supposed to go nowhere because Candace was supposed to have been assassinated before the case got to court. Then they could forever claim that Candace was lying, which is evident by the fact that they were suing her for quote unquote defamation before someone had killed her. This was their plan. But I pray that it has now been foiled. I had never considered that, and that hit really deeply. And that is a dark thought. And I think now I am, I'm wondering, I have a lot of questions. Everything feels different in this post Charlie Kirk world where to begin, how about we should talk about the founding of America because man, those Catholic priests that I was telling you about, they were unbelievably correct.

2 (3m 23s):
I told you guys a long time ago how, when I was considering whether or not I should be Orthodox or Catholic, but I knew that I was sort of done with Protestantism. I had been taking instruction from these priests in Europe and in the uk. And one of the fathers is a real bookworm, right? Kind of this cantankerous Englishman, no time for the American education system whatsoever. And he said to me quite famously, you Americans know nothing of your own history. Your country was founded by Freemasons. And that just kind of permanently now echoes in my ear because boy was he right? A war that had been sort of waging across Europe for centuries had then spilled into America.

2 (4m 9s):
It was largely a a spiritual war. It was really a theological war. That's what I'm starting to realize. That's why America never really had an appetite for Orthodox Catholicism because the Catholics in the Orthodox have kept history. They know what was going on in Europe, not the fake history that's packaged and sold to Americans. They know what the Freemasons were up to Freemasons, who caused all of those revolutions against really the Christian empire across Europe. The idea of really I now think is keep Americans fat and dumb and drugged and propagandized, right? And then when we need to use their men to mass murder other Christians overseas, that's the big picture that I am beginning to see all of this to say.

2 (4m 59s):
Did ve now that our FBI was founded by Charles Joseph Bonaparte. I had no idea. I I, I hate to be American ignorant, but I had no idea. And yes, that man was the founder. And yes, that is like Napoleon Bonaparte. His grandfather, Charles' grandfather was Napoleon Bonaparte's brother. This is like this. His great uncle, Napoleon Bonaparte was his great uncle, which makes it kind of hilarious, right? Because our tip yesterday from that person in Wilmington, Delaware was asserting that the FBI had these offices, these kind of hidden offices maybe kind of in buildings that appeared to be in part controlled by French American families who might have some conflicted interests.

2 (5m 43s):
Particularly we were discussing the DuPont family, right? Mentioning the DuPont family led to a flurry of tips coming out of Delaware. It was incredible. People in Wilmington saying, yeah, no, they own kind of everything. Like everything. Hospitals, schools, buildings, you name it, it is theirs. And then we received some more tips from people who were invested in sort of the urban legends of the DuPont family. They were telling us, Hey, I went to school with DuPonts. Like there's a lot of stories there. And these stories sound a lot like what you were covering in your becoming JIT series. You remember actually right before we had been sort of interrupted in becoming JIT series two, season two, we were speaking about Eric DuPont Morere, Eric DuPont Moretti, and we were speaking about how he was kind of known in a name for himself making an argument for happy incest.

2 (6m 42s):
Yeah. People were telling us like, Hey, this DuPont family, there's a lot going on there. And they've also maybe been involved in some murders. Again, this was DuPont folklore, if you will. But then more emails came in and ve now what? It's not entirely folklore, okay? It's really just not, this is actually an article that appeared in Vanity Fair. So let's read it together and I'm gonna issue a trigger warning right at the top because it is disturbing. Today's episode in general, I should say, is not for the faint of heart. Here's the headline. DuPont Air gets No Prison Time for raping three-year-old daughter, okay?

2 (7m 22s):
And the person who emailed us over said, this has actually kind of lived in me for over a decade. 'cause I was so disturbed by the story, and you should read this. And it tells us that Robert Richards IV was in 2009, convicted of raping his three-year-old daughter seven years after she who was just five told relatives that she didn't want her father to be touching her anymore. Then it says, in an alarming twist, the judge who sentenced the heir to the DuPont fortune let him off with no jail time arguing that the six four Richards will not farewell in prison. That was the argument that the lawyer made, and the courts in Delaware found that to be valid.

2 (8m 4s):
So instead of sentencing him for prison, for raping a toddler, it goes on and tells us that Judge Jan Jordan rules that Richards would benefit from treatment instead. Critics have since noted that such treatment is usually offered only to drug addicts or those in possession of child pornography not convicted rapists. And the details of the case became public this month when Richard's ex-wife sued him for damages related to the abuse of their daughter. Here is how the news journal describes a convicted rapist in this case, quote, Richards, who is unemployed and supported by a trust fund, owns a 5,800 square foot mansion in Greenville that he bought for $1.8 million in 2005.

2 (8m 45s):
He also lists a home in the exclusive North Shores neighborhood near Rio Baha Beach. According to the state sexes state's sex abuse registry. Registry tells us that his great grandfather is the DuPont family, patriarch y Renee DuPont, and his father is Robert H. Richards, a retired partner in the Richards Law in Layton and Finger Law Firm. Now, I already know what you're gonna say. Hey, Candace, is that the law firm that's filing the paperwork for you? And the answer to that is yes. And I did not know that no until literally yesterday because Richards didn't sound to me like DuPont. So I had not put two and two together as I was doing this episode talking about the DuPont family, I hadn't realized that the people that are filing paperwork for me, or rather the founder of that firm, the founding partner of that firm, who's since retired, is DuPont.

2 (9m 42s):
It's the DuPont family. So makes sense because as the people in Delaware are telling us, everything is DuPont Vanity Fair article continues the heir to the DuPont Chemical Fortune. And to be clear, that is what they specialize in. Chemicals, chemicals that are used in war. We're gonna get more into that later. Also admitted to sexually assaulting his infant son. He was initially charged with two counts of second degree child rape, which would have carried a mandatory 20 year prison term if convicted. Richards, again, accused of raping two of his own children, was instead released on a $60,000 bail and eventually copped a plea deal and involved him admitting that he had abused his children, but received that lesser charge, a fourth degree rape.

2 (10m 29s):
Okay? Now, the article was on to tell us that this is hardly the first time that the DuPont family has found itself the focus of unsavory headlines. John DuPont shot Olympic wrestler, David Schultz dead in the driveway of the family's mansion in 1996. Two years later, the decomposing body of a Las Vegas prostitute was found stuffed in the air conditioner of a CD motel. She was killed by three hired hands as and as Dominic Dunn reported in Vanity Fair, the money traced back the DuPont family. It appeared that Lisa Dean, who is a DuPont, didn't approve of her drug addicted son dating a drug addicted Vegas sex worker.

2 (11m 15s):
So she and her husband, Christopher Mosley had her killed both John DuPont and Mosley died in prison. Okay, great. Cool. France. France and the story. We've got an alleged murder for hire, I guess not an alleged murder, it's not alleged, it's just murder for hire. We've got incest, we've got Jeffrey Epstein's ties to France. I'm just kind of noticing a theme here, if you will, a theme here that makes me a little bit uncomfortable. Are you feeling uncomfortable? Because you should be feeling uncomfortable, especially if you're me.

2 (11m 55s):
Okay? And you find out really by the grace of God that there was this plot to murder me, okay? I'm just not liking all of this coincidence. It's starting to feel like a conspiracy if I'm being honest with you. And we should get back to our map now because it's getting a little squishy in Wilmington, Delaware. I am feeling claustrophobic in Wilmington, Delaware, and I've never even been there. Okay, so here's our block. We've got a couple of blocks here, and we told you yesterday we've got this FBI suite in this building that's actually owned by the Wilmington Trust at 500 Delaware Avenue. We've got JIT Lawyers at nine 19 North Market Street.

2 (12m 37s):
Also in that building happens to be Stacey Sheridan's registered agents. That's Stacy Sheridan of Turning Point USA, we're gonna talk about her in a second. We've got the Wilmington Trust actual location, which is at 1100 North Market. We told you about this cane, this crane, pardon this red crane at 1100 North King Street. And that's Brace Bridge Complex, which is supposed to house Insight headquarters and they've got a French CEO. It's just a lot happening here. And again, now having a registered agent in Delaware isn't, you have an LLC, you're supposed to have a registered agent and people tend to choose between Wyoming and Delaware, sometimes Las Vegas to form their own corporations.

2 (13m 22s):
But wow, what are the chances that Stacey Sheridan has a registered agent that's in that building too? Because I have LLCs and I've got LLCs in in Delaware, and I'm not, I'm not even in Wilmington. There's a lot to choose from. It's a whole state. But Stacy, Stacy Sheridan's registered agent is there too. People had noted by the way that she had a few LLCs, which she was getting paid through. It could all be above board. I don't really know. But the one I'm speaking about is, is Clover Stone Ventures. Stacy, by the way, is the senior advancement director at Turning Point USA. She was brought in specifically by Tyler Boyer to raise money and to take turning point to the next level. And regarding Tyler Boyer, now we could say maybe a couple of weeks ago that he's a criminal, but actually Donald Trump pardoned him.

2 (14m 9s):
He pardoned Tyler Boyer a couple of weeks ago, so we can't, that's actually not real. He's, IM pardoned, but he is always up to no good, I can tell you that. And he brings in this Stacey Sheridan, I gotta tell you, I did not like her at all. Just the vibe was off. I did not like her. And I expressed that to Charlie, to his face when she was hired. That's when I kind of notoriously said to him, you can't go down this path with money, okay? Because people that want to raise money and you bring people over with the incentive of just wanting a lot of money, you can run into trouble that way. Which is why I didn't feel great about the fact that she was so involved after Trolley's assassination. Stacey Sheridan is the one that was filming.

2 (14m 49s):
Everyone was like, who's filming his casket as it's being escorted off of Air Force Two Crying Holding. That's Stacey. Like I said, I just felt spiritually that Charlie hiring her was a mistake. She didn't pass my vibe check. Suddenly she's everywhere. She's eulogizing Charlie Kirk on stage. She is capturing intimate photos of his casket. She's then at the White House shedding tears over this fake holiday that's been created when I just wanna solve, actually who did this. And the whole thing was making my skin crawl, if I'm being honest, her involvement specifically made my skin crawl. And I wanna say that openly and honestly. Okay?

2 (15m 29s):
But she's there and she's there in this squishy block. In this one block. We are all just chilling Wilmington, right? And we would've never gotten to this block, by the way, had it not been for the Egyptian planes, us simply tracking these Egyptian planes and somebody giving us a tip like, Hey, kind of weird that it's flying through Wilmington. And we go, aha. Lights on. And here we are, right? We learn about this French and Israeli ACE partners being the second largest shareholder of satis. They decide to lease out this hanger. We learned that that requires federal approval because it sits on Federal Airways.

2 (16m 11s):
And maybe that means it requires French approval. Who knows? Who knows? I don't know anything at this point except everything stinks to high heaven. And so I start asking myself, what do we all have in common? Why are we all just chilling in Delaware? That's what I'm trying to ascertain. What are we all doing over here near King Street? Who is the king, right? Do we have some shared interest that I haven't seen through yet? And now would be the appropriate time for us to get back into that timeline? Because there is an important question that we forgot to ask. So let's jump into our timeline. Beginning, beginning with the inflection point, which was that Tucker Carlson speech.

2 (16m 55s):
Now I wanna say this, on that July 11th when Tucker Carlson gave that speech, I did, and I hope I'm not betraying anything too private here, but I, I asked Tucker about that speech. I was like, what? What inspired you? I went back, watched him, he's, he's going hard and he's talking about, where's all this money coming from? And ve now is this even a meritocracy? Amer? Like why are people that are not impressive billionaires? What's happening in this country? I asked Tucker, what made you say that? And he said, I had no plan to say it. It just came out of my mouth just, it just like it was just inspired, just came out of my mouth when I hit the stage. There was no plan. Charlie said, goes Max. And that is what Tucker riffs and I, I do think that was a part of, there was something spiritual that moved him to say that.

2 (17m 42s):
I will say that. Anyway, so that's July 11. Tucker Carlson speaks at Turning Point USA's conference and the donors freak out calls out Jeffrey Epstein. He says that people who serve in foreign army should be stripped of their citizenship. He muses about Bill Ackman's wealth and where it comes from. We are told, even though we have not been able to confirm this with a shred of evidence, that it was seven days later that the request came from to Turning Point USA from UVU uvu U'S chapter for Charlie to have this event that's very late in the day already. But again, we see no proof of this. We do know that right after that our Egyptian yellow plane flies to Lincoln, Nebraska and two days later it is announced in Nebraska that they're going to be doing a trade, an investment trip with Egypt.

2 (18m 34s):
There were some private off record meeting that took place to make this come to fruition. And there were international professionals that were there per the media. But who were these professionals that met with Secretary of State, Bob Nan? Why is this meeting somehow off record? And when people and they have done that have requested information, they say, oh, there's nothing it hasn been that's public that we can share with you. Thank you to by the way, the citizens of Nebraska who did that. I received your emails even if I was not able to respond. Anyways, then it departs Nebraska, the our Yellow Plains and it heads to Wilmington and then it gets, it goes back to Cairo.

2 (19m 17s):
We then know that in this same timeframe ish is when Charlie vacations up to Maine for a couple of weeks to be with his family goes off radar. We've got Mikey McCoy and his wife Eliza, that joined them for the first time. First time they're doing this joint family vacation and Mikey's capturing these last videos that are gonna warm our hearts about Charlie. And he's like, amazing. That's just how he is. And on July 25th, Charlie speaks in Westchester, New York at the end of July. This is a new, a new little update for you why Refi comes in as the number one sponsor of the Charlie Kirk Fall tour. So this is end of July, early August and I'm wondering why they did that then.

2 (20m 4s):
'cause that's pretty late in the day. Remember this was something they freaked out about when I said, Hey, this is not how Turning Point events are come, come together. They're not instant. Actually in the history of me speaking on college campuses and having headlined these tours, they are planning them at least a semester ahead. And then it was like mass panic. I got like Lyla Rose and Ali Stuckey who have never headlined their tour suddenly saying, that's not true. That's not true. Were you talking about, and I'm like, I'm talking about, I worked there so I, I know exactly what I'm talking about. And that was a weird thing to debunk. And I'm wondering why was this put together so late in the day? And I'm, and I am musing here, but I'm wondering if why Refi after Charlie lost millions of dollars, said, Hey, you can make that up by going on tour.

2 (20m 50s):
Ve now like we will, we were are willing to do this. And maybe Charlie actually wasn't planning on going on tour at all. And this tour actually came together very quickly. I am musing on that. I I'm not introducing that as a fact. I'm introducing that as a a question and he's back to our timeline why refi is going big and they are are gonna be the main sponsor of this fall tour. And that's how that came together. Then we know veterinary early August Turning Point was scouting that location in that event and they specifically requested for Charlie to be in that amphitheater.

2 (21m 32s):
Now apparently Charlie had done, according to some insiders, had had loved an event that he had done in an amphitheater environment in Nashville. But I don't know if he said I only wanna do that going forward. But I do know that Turning Point USA insisted upon that the person that was orchestrating that event, Macy Macy Crofts was saying, look, this is what Charlie wants. And that could be true. August 2nd is when we have our French Legionnaires arriving in America for a three week training session in California, which is gonna end on the 25th. And then a couple days later we have that amped, that Hamptons retreat, which Charlie Kirk himself described as an intervention as Israel intervention and influencers who were there said that he was being pressed on his shifting viewpoints on Israel.

2 (22m 25s):
And we know that the influencers were paid for by Bill Ackman, but I don't think that that's particularly a big deal. Obviously he has interests and was potentially coming undone his donor for turning point USA. We have what I do think is a big deal, which is BB net and Yahoo, calling Charlie and offering to take turning point to the next level. And that my friends is the billion dollar question, maybe the trillion dollar question in exchange for what

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2 (23m 26s):
Have we considered that this man is fighting like a 20 front war and he, he calls Charlie Kirk and asks ve, now do you wanna come to Israel? We can take turning point to the next level in exchange for what and through who? Because I'm gonna guess that BB net and Yahoo is not just gonna write a check signed by BB net and Yahoo and just do that as an act of charity in exchange for what was he going to take turning point to a next level. This is something that nobody has denied took place. No one has denied that, that this took place and Charlie declined. Charlie declined that offer. So what that signals to me is that Charlie then had information about maybe how they move money, right?

2 (24m 13s):
Without registering for Farah. I don't know. I think that's a big question that needs to be asked. Let's keep going onto this timeline. Charlie says No and almost immediately, 10 days later we got our next point is that our, our planes come back out and they're flying to Lincoln again. They're going to Omaha, they're going to Wilmington. They stay for one night. Charlie speaks in South Carolina. We have our yellow planes. Then returning on the 24th, again, always through Wilmington to Egypt. We then have our French Legionnaires have completed their training and on August 24th, 27th, operation Valhalla takes place between civilians and military men in Minnesota at Camp Ripley.

2 (25m 9s):
Then we have the first public sign that went out on August 27th. August 27th is so late in the day to big in promoting an event. T-P-U-S-A-U-V-U and a local BYU chapter share a graphic announcing that Charlie is coming to UVU. But there are no location details mentioned on that graphic. So still not full details, but at least the first announcement goes out on the 29th. We have Operation Brightstar which commences that joint operation that we told you about, which is biennial between Egypt and the United States military and other countries that are coming together. And it is being reported that it is going to run through to September 10th On September 2nd, Charlie sends out the email asking for a Doge audit of his company and he announces that Justin strife is going to be the new COO taking over for Tyler Boyer who was the COO.

2 (26m 3s):
And then we have the first known public going out in local media that Charlie's coming to town and that it is going to take place in the courtyard. That's on September 2nd, okay, on September 4th our planes come in and we know what happens next. Charlie is in Korea for a couple of days. He comes back on September 10th and he gets assassinated. And that's also happens to be the same day that that operation Bright Star, that Cairo joint operation formally ends. Okay? So that timeline makes me uncomfortable.

2 (26m 43s):
Okay? It makes me very uncomfortable and I'm wondering if Charlie put together the Doge account. And I wanna be clear, this part of speculation because something that he maybe learned when Bibb asked take it to the next level, made him think maybe I should look through Turning Points finances. Like where is this money coming in from and where is it going? And I don't know that for a fact, but I think it's a fair question. A fair investigative question is what inspired Charlie to suddenly be concerned about not just where the money was going but where the money was coming from, was an offer made to him that he declined? Yes. What was that offer for in exchange? And I wanna say this, Charlie said no.

2 (27m 25s):
So Charlie died with his soul intact, dying for the soul intact. He said no, he said no to a lot of money, but it was actually a tip that I received early on that pulled everything together for me in a really dark way. It was water cooler talk at turning point USA immediately after t Charlie's assassination, a few people had signified and were speculating and thinking about things that were weird and ve Now I told you we had so many people from Turning Point USA that were just venting in our tip box and telling us that they didn't like the way management was acting and things were weird and there were just a flurry of things that were coming in and a few of them had signified that one of the things that were, one of the things that was being whisper whispered about that people thought was quite odd that they learned that happened on the day of Charlie's assassination was a rumor pertaining to Justin strife.

2 (28m 28s):
An odd, an oddly placed phone call that he made almost immediately as they say this is alleged. It wasn't on the phone call after Charlie was shot. And I will say allegedly, because there's six people at Turning Point USA who have said this that were talking about this, this rumor PA got passed around. They said that Justin had placed an immediate call to a donor prospect. And I said, that's weird. Okay, I'd like to know more about that. Can everybody try to figure out what donor that was? Now it's possible it could have just been a very close donor friend Charlie had them, he did. There were some donors that he loved like family members. And so that was a potential long shot thing, but just interesting, I'd like to know who he was so close to that required an immediate call.

2 (29m 15s):
Then it turns out that these ladies told me that this donor actually had a, a pretty big piece of bait on the hook for turning point USAA piece of their billion dollar company. They were anticipating some IPO and that this was going to be life changing money. Okay? We're not talking like, oh, a check that's gonna be reeled in for $5 million or $10 million or $50 million or like the $90 million at turning point USA raised in the first couple of weeks following Charlie's assassination.

2 (29m 58s):
We are talking like billionaire money, potentially billions of dollars. And this was a very big secret, a huge secret, just a handful of people were allowed to even know about this, that this was happening. In fact, there's probably people that are watching this right now at Turning Point USA who work in donations. I think it's a pretty large department that have no idea, have never even heard of this because that's how incredibly top level secret this was. Okay? But people began to find out about this because of just an unfortunate conversation that had been left unattended to, okay, now why was the secret supposed to be so guarded?

2 (30m 42s):
Why is this person getting a phone call? I, I wanted to know, I wanted to know more. And I start messaging our mommy slews and our daddy slews and all of my sources at Turning Point us a and I'm saying anything that you can tell me about this me in case this might be important. And I got an answer on the name of a donor and I had completely forgotten because again, this happened so early following the assassination, I am talking before I even went to Wyoming, my brain was still traumatized. I had so much information that I was trying to process while I was grieving that I literally forgot the big part that I learned about this donor. I forgot.

2 (31m 23s):
And these young women told me that this donor was French American and that this donor's name was Pierre. It wasn't until yesterday after we went off air that I presented to you all of this stuff about the DuPont family that it clicked. And these ladies messaged me and said, oh, you figured it out. It's Pierre Point, exclamation point. I had mentioned Pierre DuPont on yesterday's show.

2 (32m 3s):
And this took my breath away. I will be honest. I was, I cried really hard yesterday thinking, my goodness, how could I have forgotten that this donor was French, French American? That that was the big thing. And I was racking my brain trying to figure out that time. 'cause I hadn't even considered France's involvement in anything. Like who do I know that's French and has tons of money and is involved in and in technologies and could possibly be working on a big check that could be kept secrets because it's about to, IPO and billions are on the line and, and it all kind of came together. And I, I would like an answer about this Pierre, the billionaire French American donor.

2 (32m 48s):
And I would like a clean answer as to whether or not it is Mr. Pierre DuPont. Yeah. Because this would be a devastatingly dark story. And my sources are very sure, very sure that this is what was on the line. That this was life-changing money. And they are very sure that this individual got a phone call after the assassination. And I think that we deserve to know, I don't think there should be a secret, right? Charities shouldn't be a secret why.

2 (33m 28s):
And by the way, it leads to more questions like how could you say that you knew that your IPO was going to lead to billions of dollars? How could you promise that? How could you promise that? And did Charlie know, did Charlie know? And, and I'm gonna be honest with you, I know a lot of billionaires, they don't part with their money like that. They don't part with their money and offer people, parts, pieces of their company, people that aren't even their family members. So why was that offer on the table? I have so many questions and I'm gonna ask them publicly and I think that we demand answers. We should all be demanding answers because this is now starting to feel very, very dark.

2 (34m 14s):
It's too French, right? It's just too French. We just can't all be hanging out in Delaware. And there's one more thing that came in regarding Andrew Covet, very close family friend of Andrew Covet had messaged me early on and I again was not tracking any of this at the time, but they had said that they felt that Andrew Covet was acting weird. And I'm sure that's not a big deal. Like we were all acting weird. Charlie Kirk was assassinated. But moreover, they had mentioned that specifically Andrew had told them that when Charlie said no to Bibe, he lost out on millions.

2 (34m 59s):
Now I'm gonna say allegedly, 'cause this is a tip, but I have that tip in writing, I'm not lying to you. And I thought to myself, that is so weird. How could the spokesperson at Turning Point USA be on the, how could they be gaining millions from that? What's the, what is the, what is the structure here of these contracts that even people that are in pr, people that are like running PR departments are getting tips on the basis of donations. I don't know how this is working, but we need to figure out how this is working. I think. I think it's really important that we, that we learn the truth about what happened. Who's Pierre? Is it Pierre DuPont? And has Turning Point been paid? Obviously it wouldn't be on this year's tax is taxes. You're not gonna find those on on this year's taxes, but they would be on next year's.

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2 (38m 18s):
There is such a thing as a good Fed, believe it or not. There are good guys. There are good guys everywhere. Ve now lightness is always fighting darkness. And I received an interesting tip from a Fed that I'm going to share with you now that might be relevant, but turning point USA put in a personal request to try to get the Egyptian plane story killed VE now, and I find that to be very interesting. I find that to be very interesting. What is it about these Egyptian planes that turning point USA didn't want them to be discussed? I don't know, but I am going to find out. I think we kind of have found out in a weird really effed up way. I actually, and it makes my stomach turn. I'm gonna miss Charlie. I really am going to miss Charlie.

2 (39m 0s):
And I think when Charlie was assassinated, there was something about it. I knew that this story was going to be dark instantly. I knew that Charlie was betrayed. They laughed at me. Oh, you had a dream. Charlie told you he was be Yeah, Charlie told me that he was betrayed. And I think part of the mourning was the grief that I was experiencing was in large part due to my understanding that this was gonna be missional for me. I knew, I think I knew deep down that this was gonna be missional and I kind of knew deep down that the whole world was going to be against me or I guess the whole dark apparatus was gonna be against me, not the world.

2 (39m 43s):
There are so many good people in the world that are the reasons that I'm doing this. And who understood instantly and felt instantly what I felt when this all happened. And I think it's sad because I was just reflecting on, I guess really the last part of my youth being ignorant and thinking that we lived in a country that was free and was fair and was a meritocracy. The excitement of me and Charlie in politics, like we were young bucks thinking that we were gonna change the world because the MAGA movement offered us this opportunity to do it right. We're gonna get Trump elected and we're gonna get people to stop talking about racism and sexism and to understand like family is a priority. And and I realize now, and I know Charlie realizes now that we did not see the evil that was around us and I'm gonna miss that youth do ve now what I mean I'm gonna miss that young experience.

2 (40m 37s):
I'm gonna miss Charlie going on dates and the girls he liked and me always being the wing woman and him asking I, this text message is my, one of my favorite text messages between me and Charlie when he was getting ready to go on a date and ve now, he didn't date many people and he was just kind of in love with this girl and he was asking me should I wear this? And this is the text message, it's so sweet. He said, do I have to change this shirt? And I wrote back, yes and throw it away if you can Charlie. And he was ha, okay. And he's wearing a turning point early shirt that somebody I think gave to him me stitched on.

2 (41m 18s):
It's like, is it stitched on? Is it on? You're done. I don't know. But I was like, Charlie, burn it, obviously burn that shirt and it makes me, yeah, it's the stuff that makes me cry and makes me sad because he just was so young. Ve now Charlie was so young and he was such a good person. And I'm also gonna miss the young conversations that you have when you're vibing with someone and you're speaking about things that you don't understand. As you were coming up in politics, I always felt like an alien. And we would have these discussions with donors and we'd have discussions with people or people would do stuff and I would just tell him all the time, Charlie, I'm an alien. I am new on this planet. I don't understand this. I don't understand double speak. And ve now contracts and people threatening to sue.

2 (42m 1s):
It doesn't make sense to me. I have an alien and Charlie always said he felt like he was a time traveler and this is a conversation. I'd say I'm an alien. I just message him from across the prob and he said, I think I'm a time traveler. This is, this is my home. He felt like earth was his planet, but I think you found me in time, travels with me like the kind of friendship where you can talk about being a time traveler and feeling like an alien as I've always felt like it. 'cause I don't get it. I don't get the rules of this planet, I don't get the betrayal, the backstabbing, the people that dance for money. It's never made sense to me from the time I was a kid. I just felt out of place and I am out of place in politics. I will tell you that because this is what it's all about, right? Selling your soul to the devil.

2 (42m 41s):
And I don't wanna do that anyways. That's just going a long way of me saying that I'm gonna miss the ignorance of our political youth thinking that it could be fair thinking that we could just work hard thinking that we could run a company, that we could launch this revolution where people were in the going to be happy in the future because America was the land of the free. I had to mourn that. Now I realized, and as I have expressed that this is missional, Charlie knew he was going to die young, but there was more that were in those now seemingly prophetic text messages that I was unwilling to share at that time. But I am gonna share that now. When he was speaking about his death and the visions that he was having in April of 2018, he also said some other things.

2 (43m 27s):
He didn't just say that he was gonna die. He didn't just say that turning point was going to be the death of him, but he also wrote this, this is in April, on April 13th, he wrote this. He wrote ish like Tonight is what I have foreseen. This won't result in anything. I'll give you the context in a moment. But in our lifetime we will experience real war beyond anything that we can fathom absolute in total destruction. Now for historical reference, what was going on that week involved, of course France, right of America, France, Israel, the Middle East, Syria, Russia, and this is the Syria before Israel and the United States overthrew Assad.

2 (44m 11s):
What was going on was the United States and France were carrying out a series of military strikes involving in aircraft and the ship based missiles against multiple, multiple government sites in Syria. And the official reason that we were told was because the Syrian government had apparently chemically gassed their own citizens, something which Assad had strenuously denied in effect, if Assad was telling the truth. And I believe he was, because I think there is a war on Christians that's happening. Then the West and the United States were implicated in part by a false flag attack to justify a larger military justification.

2 (44m 52s):
That's kind of something the west does a lot, right? False flag attack, get the media going, we have to respond and then we just sort of take land. Yeah, that's what we do. Now, France had said in a statement on that morning on April 14th at France, red line had been crossed. So this was a story which Charlie said, this is not the thing that's coming, but this is a preview of the thing that's coming. Missiles, false flag attacks, chemicals and the Middle East America, France, and Israel. It is something, it is something, right? This was the vibe of something that Charlie felt was going to happen in the future.

2 (45m 35s):
Something Charlie, I used to always say, I told you that the rest is future. I think we are in the rest right now. We are approaching that future right now. And I didn't feel it then in 2018, but I feel it now. I've been telling you guys, I have been having a lot of dreams and the dread that Charlie felt in 2018, I have been feeling, I felt it leading up to Charlie's assassination. I pulled my children out of school. I was having this dreams and visions about bees and organization that was happening in America. I have a sense of dread that a lot of these events that are happening, these inexplicable events like the Malibu fires sort of coastal events, the Texas floods, that this is not happening by accidents.

2 (46m 23s):
Okay, I, I have a feeling of a sense of dread that the Fed is taking, taking from Americans right now and that we are heading toward war. Okay? I'm gonna share that I feel that we are headed toward or that they want war by any means necessary and that you need to be wherever you are in the world fully dialed into that, okay, we can't be stupid this time. We cannot believe what the media is telling us. We cannot believe what the government are telling us. We cannot believe whatever it is, whatever attack that's going to happen. And we're gonna be told that it was this guy. We have to start to recognize the pattern of things, okay?

2 (47m 5s):
The predictive model of this is my red line. Then the red line gets crossed and people are denying it. And what happens, Christians are mass slaughtered every single time propagandize people, Christians in the east to hate Christians in the West. And there's just less of us by the end of it. And these things tend to happen World wars when they want a reset because people start waking up. And so, so I just wanted to express that to you that I feel that we are reaching that brink right now and you need to prepare for that. And it feels like an almost inevitability because wars are planned in boardrooms, okay? In boardrooms you're gonna send you and your children and your sons, but they're not going to fight.

2 (47m 46s):
And I don't love a scenario right now that's happening where we have envoys being sent to Russia and Israel and everybody's meeting all this. It feels like something's coming. And I know that you probably sensed that dread too. Turning our attention to Turning Point. Did ve, now, I learned this from one of our sleuths, that turning point might potentially now be becoming a real estate empire. Apparently Tyler Boyer has a younger brother who for 10 years has worked in dental sales until Charlie died because a unique opportunity presented itself at Turning Point USA where Tyler had begun telling people that T-P-U-S-A plans to roll out a program to build houses for first time home buyers.

2 (48m 34s):
They're gonna use Turning Point USA's position and audience to market this idea of new homes. And the marketing pitch is that Charlie preached to young Christians about how school and universities was a waste of time and that it was a waste of money and that they should get married early and they should start their lives and they should have kids, but he never really taught them how or what they should do next. So they are planning to leverage Turning Point USA's position with young Christians as a captive audience to sell, to build and sell houses. Okay? That's what the person told me and I checked that out.

2 (49m 15s):
They presented some proof of that conversation happening and I think that's interesting. I think we should share that. And I know that I'm sure that that's probably what Charlie wrote. He apparently had a 15, 20 year plan according to Frank Tarek or was it Rob McCoy? Rob McCoy said that I think, I think they all said it honestly, but Rob McCoy did say that he kept this in his notebooks and so a real estate empire could be on the brink turning point USA. Amazing. That really is something. Anyways, you guys, we are going to take another break for our sponsors and then I will get into some of your comments.

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2 (51m 55s):
So what's gonna happen now? Threats, lawsuits, lawyers, bankruptcy, ba, this is how it works, right? When you wake up to the scam of everything, when you start telling the truth, when you say, I'm not gonna become a part of the scam, when you say, no, I'd rather die with my soul intact. Yeah, it's like there's only one way outta this matrix, two ways out we're we're going to destroy you or we're gonna kill you. That's it. So look forward to some lawsuit being drummed up because I have the audacity to tell the truth about what happened to my friend. And you need real friends in this world. You actually need real friends, friends that are gonna stand up when everyone is lying about everything about what happened to you on that day.

2 (52m 36s):
And we've discovered more, by the way, but ve now it's only, it's only Tuesday. So we'll give you more, we'll give you more tomorrow. Anyways, you guys, to get to some housekeeping, some great news, my book MAKE HIM A SANDWICH is not just available on the Make Him MAKE HIM A SANDWICH website, which is MAKE HIM A SANDWICH dot com, but now it is on available on Amazon. So you can get that, you can go to amazon.com and you can now get that delivered directly to you. I think, by the way, George, put a note that it says that it's not in stock. That's not true. We, it just means Amazon hasn't received our shipment yet. So it is in stock and you can buy that today.

2 (53m 16s):
I'm really excited about that. It's a really good book and it gets into the history of feminism and it's quite a personal book also and kind of my own jour journey with feminism and kind of learning where all bad ideas come from, which is kind of, or I guess I should say, as it pertains to America,

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2 (54m 2s):
The assassination of the sar, another assassination event. I think these Bolsheviks are here in America. Something I wanna say to you guys, that is what my dread is. They have woven themselves quietly to give you kind of a Game of Thrones reference for those of you who watched it while we were all war with each other, left and rights, the white walkers were building an army and they're here. So that's the sense of dread that I have about what's happened in this country. And they are Bolsheviks and they believe murder is their right. They hate Christians, they believe in infiltration. And we should fast, we should pray.

2 (54m 43s):
We should hope that Charlie's vision was correct. He knew he was going to die, but also that he felt, as he intimate intimated to me that he had to take that option so that people would wake up. And I do think that it catalyzed an awakening here, and these are risks that I also feel missionally. I have to take these risks to say and to tell people at risk of my own life because there won't be a tomorrow for our children. I, I sense that dread and I hate to communicate that to you. I always try to be optimistic, but this is bad. I feel it. And I think you all feel it too. So yeah, there's a lot that is a lot to digest and we're not done, of course, I am hopeful that Erica Kirk will issue a statement I, I think in this new capacity, CEO and Chairman, that we deserve an answer about that.

2 (55m 38s):
Check that phone call. We deserve a clear answer on that and no dancing around it because I, like I said, my sources were pretty solid on that and I am just kind of trying to digest the devastation of it all really, to be honest with you, what the implications are. Anyways, we have new Merch that's on our website as well. You can also now gift someone with a membership to Club Candace to join our book club. By the way, we're about to, when we get off head to the book club as we continue this conversation about Sigmund Freud and the Jewish mystical tradition and which correlates directly with what's going on today.

2 (56m 18s):
Kind of a war that happened and nobody really knows what was going on in Europe. That's, this book is really important. So yeah, you can now gift a membership if you'd like to. We are kind of running outta time here, but I'm gonna read the top comment from yesterday's episode. It says, it's crazy to me that Candace is doing her own research on her own assassination plot, meanwhile uncovering things in our government that are hidden in plain sight. We need to wake up America, not just America world. The world needs to wake up. And I think the mistake, which there are many mistakes devil makes, but in overplaying his hand was publicly executing Charlie because it stirred something inside of all of us who still have goodness inside of all of us who will say no to money inside those of us who would rather be sued than to acquiesce to evil.

2 (57m 4s):
I think it made us realize that we have to be soldiers for God there. If they're gonna be soldiers for darkness, then we have to be soldiers for light. Let me see if you can read a couple of these comments before we go off here. Wow, that's a, a huge donation that was made by Laughing Kat Music World. Thank you. I'm gonna need it because I think the federal government is trying to bankrupt me a thousand different ways. Legal fair is one of the strategies, legal fair. They just keep you constantly being suited all times. And I feel like that's happened since I escaped the Matrix. This person writes supporting my favorite girl. My mouth was wide. When you dropped the name DuPont.

2 (57m 45s):
I cried tonight. I love you and I loved Charlie from the get go. A big part of my every day was ripped from me when they killed Charlie, you are true blue. When the turn, the turn is out and impossible to deny. You can say, as the French say, they all go down. Yeah, ve now may everyone involved in this thing go down. I think that's fair. Maybe turning point. We'll have some very clear answers. They haven't given us any thus far. Just more attacks on Candace. More people purporting to be Christians attacking Candace using biblical scripture. I have no time for this anymore. I really don't. We are here now and the world can see what's happening. You can call me crazy, you can call me evil, you can call me demonic, you can call me whatever you need to call me.

2 (58m 30s):
That keeps you warm at night because let me tell you, it isn't going to be nearly as warm or as you are going to be when you burn in hell for an eternity. Okay? It's gonna be like nothing you could possibly imagine. This life. This life is short. Charlie's was shorter and short end, but this life is short relative to eternity and that is real. And I commit myself to truth and I just decided that I'm gonna stay on a side of truth and I am going to keep enduring these attacks and stand with the people. Seven Sheets writes, it feels like you're the only close friend. Really mourning him. I've been there. I'm so sorry for your loss.

2 (59m 10s):
Please stay strong. Thank you. I appreciate that. Jako writes many blessings, Candace from Anton Daniels and the bag chasers keep fighting the good fight. Snowy writes, integrity, courage, intelligence articulates as beautiful inside and as outside. Candace Owens from the eyes of a 79-year-old. Thank you. I love making your generation proud. 'cause I do think that that was the last generation that had real values. Ve now America lost its way when we decided that we would do anything for money, which is what Bibb said on camera. Ve now America is something you can move very easily with money, not this American. So there's that. And Amir writes, I vote, I voted for my taxpayer funds to go from the CIA towards the Canada's Intelligence Agency for all of her investigative work because I this point, she's one of the rare public figures that are actually fighting for truth.

2 (1h 0m 2s):
Sadly. I mean, I just really thought there would be more allies and there are some, like I said, there are some good feds. There is an underground movement that is happening, but there's not nearly enough for the amount that we pay our taxes. I'll tell you that for free. Joy writes, this is deep. I've been watching Ken Burns the revolution. The French connection is long with America. It is. And silly us for thinking. They just kind of did us a favor and said Saara, right? No way. Of course, that's not how it happened to us. Silly Americans. Anyways, you guys we're gonna jump into book club, support the show. You can do that in a variety of ways. Like I said, buying gear. We've got new kit available on the website, which we're excited about.

2 (1h 0m 43s):
And you can of course buy the book, which is available on Amazon and we're gonna keep pushing. Today was definitely an episode where I feel like we went max for Charlie. So we'll see you tomorrow.

12/1/25
Charlie Kirk And Brigitte's Legionnaires | Candace Ep 271



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2 (31s):
All right, you guys. It is a very tangled web that we, we, I'm referring to me and Jean-Michel Tru. No. Okay. Jean-Michel Trug no. Has been so protected and has worn so many faces and has clearly gotten away with that across so many decades that you can almost understand the sheer arrogance, imagine being so protected that you force multiple nation states to collude, to hide the obvious fact that you were born with a penis, right? That is real power. I am talking satanic power though, and the antidote to Satan is always Christ Truth will reign supreme in the end. So Welcome back to Candace.

2 (1m 27s):
Get comfortable you guys because it is going to be a long week. I have so many explosive revelations to share with you, revelations to share with you. And now it feels especially urgent, right? Don't you feel a sense of urgency right now in the wake of me having learned that France apparently paid for my assassination and that the French Foreign Legion was apparently involved and on the ground at UV on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination, and we should probably begin there foremost, if you were one of the people online who believed for a single second that it was even a remote possibility that I simply made up a French assassination attempt heading into Thanksgiving week, I don't know, for like attention or something.

2 (2m 15s):
I sat around and I said, Hmm, I'm just not getting enough attention. How can I start a global conversation about me? And then I came up with this idea of creating fan fiction where I imagined myself as the victim of a multinational state plot to murder me. Yeah, if you thought that for a single second that it was for funsies because I'm not busy or anything, then you're just not sober. You're not paying attention to anything and you need to wake up real fast. We're gonna move quickly through a lot of things this week because everyone in the world needs to wake up to how things actually work. L ol to the idea of Western democracy L ol to the idea that you can win in life and that everything's basically you've set the stage for a meritocracy and you can get ahead.

2 (3m 6s):
No, actually, as you learn things, you become a target. You become a target to people that operate in the shadows. And that is, I think what we are all learning in the wake of the last couple of months, especially now going back to November 25th, I obviously tweeted exactly what I was informed, okay? I'm going to read that tweet to you in its entirety. Urgent. Two days ago I was contacted by a high ranking employee of the French government. After determining this person's position and proximity to the French couple, I have deemed the information that they gave me to be credible enough to share publicly in the event that something happens.

2 (3m 47s):
In short, this person claims the Macrons have executed upon and paid for my assassination. Yes, you read that correctly. More specifically that the green light was given to a small team in the National GDA Marie Intervention Group. I am told there is one Israeli that is on the assassination squad, and that plans were formalized. Again, this person provided concrete proof that they are well placed within the French government apparatus. Further to this point, this person claims that Charlie Kirk's assassin trained with the French Legion 13th Brigade with multi-state involvement, journalist Xavier Po Sards life is also at risk.

2 (4m 28s):
This is deadly serious. The head of state of France apparently wants us both dead and as authorized professional units to carry this out. I ask that every person retweet and share this. I do not know who in the American government can be trusted since this source claims that our leaders are aware. But I have more specific information, which is definitively verifiable should they care to reach out to me and to the brave official in France who did this because they were so moved by the evil of Charlie's public execution to risk their own life. May God bless you, truly let all be revealed. Now, I got even more specific, right? I said there was a paper trail that Macron allegedly paid $1.5 million. And I am saying allegedly because until I can physically see with my own eyes inside of these accounts and verify the transfer of that payment, it's of course alleged the amount is alleged.

2 (5m 21s):
Two assassins were hired. One Israeli, one French Canadian woman, okay? A man and a woman. And I also said that the money ran through the Elite Gentleman Club Desalt. Again, I was very specific and I asserted that the French Foreign Legion, which was Allegion and a group that I had never heard about prior to this notification were involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination. Okay? I don't follow military stuff. So me even mentioning specific gda Marie, you have to assume that I got this information from somebody. Now, if you are in fact currently at this moment, the first man of France, that would be Projet Macron, and you are currently suing a podcaster in America named Candace Owens for defamation for telling the truth, right?

2 (6m 13s):
And the story that you are trying to sell to the public is that you were really deep down in your heart. You really believe that you are a woman, and Candace is just crazy and desperate for cliques and willing to defame you for money. Then Candace Owens publicly proclaiming and accusing you of something akin to not akin to directly implicated in her assassination, a claim which has gone viral. When I say viral, I mean just the tweet alone had over 100,000 retweets and 45 million impressions on X alone. Okay? This would be your unique opportunity as the French first man to prove your case about Candace to the public, right?

2 (6m 59s):
In the court of public opinion. This would be your time to slam dunk. Remember the French couple has been so psychotically obsessed with trying to paint me as conflicted in my reporting that they even hired a private investigator to try to see if I was colluding with other state actors. Ve. Now they kind of gloriously insinuated that I might be working with Russia. They paid for that. They paid for that investigation. So using that logic, wouldn't this be the opportunity if you're the French couple to come out and to prove your point, to make a stunning and a swift statement, right?

2 (7m 39s):
We are shocked by the accusation, of course, never in a million years. Oh, we told you guys, this is just for clicks. It's for money. This is beyond anything we've ever heard. I hope Candace gets well soon. That would be what I would say you should do if I'm advising you from a a PR statement, a a standpoint, right? In American basketball terms, this is like a flagrant foul and you now get some free throws, right? If you're the French couple, you're gonna spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees, investigative fees and PR fees in a country on the other side of the Atlantic trying desperately to paint me as a lunatic. And I give you the opportunity to spike the ball to prove that I'm a lunatic.

2 (8m 23s):
And you don't do it. No, they didn't do it, did they? If you're paying attention, they did not do it. Of course, they send out the people on Twitter who get to come out and say, oh, I think she's crazy. I think she's making it up. They do this. We are always doing this every week. Oh, Trump never called her about Braquet. Macron, she's making that up for attention. Oh, she's lying. Charlie Kirk never changed his mind about Israel. She's making that up for attention. This is what we do every week, right? Where Hampshire's on a wheel. And so we're back to that again, right? People saying that I made it up, but what did the French couple do? That's what matters. It's now been a full week since I made that announcement. And here is the official response issued by the LEA palace.

2 (9m 7s):
Nothing, nothing. I want you to bear in mind that this was front page global news from the United States to Russia, and I publicly challenged Republic, challenged the Candace is making everything up crowd to prove, prove it. Press the White House for a response, right? The White House is the ball's very firmly in their court. And a week later, this is the official White House response. So what are we to make of that, you guys? Did I report it to the White House? Of course I reported it to the White House. Did I report to the FBI? Of course I reported it to the FBI did.

2 (9m 47s):
I report it to our counter-terrorism unit. Of course I reported it because I'm telling you, there's paper trail common sense. You think I'm just doing that because I, I'm assuming you could get a felony for making something up out of thin air like that. You can't just use United States resources to go after somebody in a plot that never existed that you did for clicks on YouTube. So what's the issue here? Why is no one coming out and telling you that that's completely baseless, especially the Charlie Kirk assassination. The whole world is invested in that assassination. Wouldn't you wanna shut that down? The idea that it was a multi nationally planned event, and by the way, is that on its face, even plausible, multi multiple agencies and multiple countries and vols from Egypt to Israel, people are saying that's totally crazy.

2 (10m 38s):
No, it's the lone shooter who had never been on campus who climbed the roofs like Spider-Man happened to know where Hollywood be sitting and hit that shot in four seconds.

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2 (11m 19s):
Is it plausible that that's not the truth? Of course, it's plausible. Anyone who knows anything about the French government probably knows that they have an appetite for cruelty and sexual deviancy. Anybody who has made it through the first couple of episodes of becoming brae knows that the French government has an appetite for cruelty and sexual deviancy. Okay, L ol, the city of Romance really Romance with who? Exactly. That's one of the broader points of the becoming brae series. And so I'd like to thank Paval Dera, the founder of Telegram, for being one of the first people to stick out his neck immediately and to assert what the entire world already knows about France.

2 (12m 0s):
Here's what he said. He said, after reviewing everything Charlie Kirk has ever said about Macron's France, I find Candace's information about French involvement in his death. Entirely plausible. Charlie even called for 300% tariffs on France until the charges against me were dropped. And I also would like to shout out Freddie Ponton Ponton who wrote this article reminding people, and when I say reminding, I mean teaching people if you're me. 'cause I didn't know this, that exactly. This satellite of countries, France, Israel, the French Legion, United States, Egypt, were quite literally involved in exactly this sort of operation, which further reaching global implications involving the Safari Club in Egypt.

2 (12m 47s):
Now, if you haven't heard of that, this was the article that he wrote passed as Prologue Safari Club illuminates Candace Owens's allegations. I had never heard of this. I really hadn't. Okay, because I feel like I'm Alice in Wonderland. A few years ago I kind of believed everything the government said. I thought there were good guys. And after the Charlie Kirk assassination, I'm going, oh wait, no, these aren't nobody is a good guy. These are like gangs that are running the world, obviously gangs that have gone mainstream and democracy and the idea of republic is just an illusion. Well anyways, in that article, and I'm gonna read a paragraph from it, but he said, when Candace Owens claimed on X at a high ranking, French government insider warned her of an imminent plot to have her assassinated alleging that President Emmanuel Macron and his wife Jit, had authorized and financed the operation, assigning it to a small national GA Marie intervention group team that included an Israeli operative.

2 (13m 42s):
She also suggested that Charlie Kirk's assassin trained with a French Legion with multi-state involvement. The claim sounded like it belonged to the realm of conspiracy thrillers. And yet, as the allegation ricocheted across social media, something unusual happened. People did not instinctively laugh it off, some dismissed it, yes, but many hesitated paused or quietly admitted that given the right circumstances, given the right network of covert actors, such a plot didn't feel entirely impossible. That hesitation doesn't come from trust in Owens, it comes from history. And sure enough, and I'm just pulling up the Wikipedia page here, you should go read the article in its entirety, but the Safari Club man cover Covert Alliance of Intelligence Services formed in 1976 that ran operations around Africa when the United States Congress had limited the power of the CIA after years of abuses decided we kind of go overseas and handled business and members in pre-revolutionary Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco and France.

2 (14m 47s):
Israels involved Rhodesia, South Africa. I mean it tells you there that the, the processes then LED resulted in the 1979 Egypt Israel Peace Treaty peace. Okay, cool. Like I said, read more about that. Now, in terms of formal replies that we received from government structures, the only department that we did hear back, well first lemme say I did not at all hear back from the FBI on the American side. I did hear back from the counter-Terrorism Unit, I did hear back from the White House confirming that that message had been delivered on Trump's desk.

2 (15m 29s):
Me saying that I had the information, I guess they, he didn't wanna inquire further, which is interesting. But the FBI left me on red and I will say I didn't go through an official channel and send an email and I should do that. But I did send a text message to somebody very high up who received the text message, no response. Now I thought that the claim of the French Foreign Legion being involved in Charlie's assassination, I thought the FBI might be interested. No, no phone calls even from Utah's FBI branch have come into me either, wouldn't you wanna see? Aren't we supposed to be investigating the Charlie Kirk assassination?

2 (16m 10s):
It, it was totally not a state operation and they really wanna get to the truth, which explains why nobody called no Utah not interested. I'm actually surprised Tyler Robinson's lawyer hasn't reached out to me. What's going on here? Now we've gotta protect the patsy, right? We've gotta protect the Patsy in this situation regarding the only official that we did receive any sort of a public response from, it reads to me like a confession. Let me know if you agree. So I pointed out that interestingly, interestingly enough, after I began researching the French Legion, I very quickly stumbled upon the fact that they were also involved in a joint operation with American troops in the exact weeks leading up to Charlie's assassination.

2 (16m 59s):
More specifically, according to the VE Now French Foreign Legion website, between August 2nd and August 25th of this year, the Legionnaires from the fourth company, second Foreign Infantry Regiment, the sixth Light Armored Brigade, were integrated with US Marines of the Sixth Marine Regiment for a three week training deployment, okay? That took place in California, okay? And then once that training ended, I said this online, another camp began immediately, it was a joint exercise with civilians, which included military men from the Minot Air Force base.

2 (17m 44s):
And that joint exercise took place in Minnesota at Camp Ripley. And that ran just for a couple of days until August 27th. And that was known as Operation Valhalla. Okay? Random three day exercise with civilians. And I was wondering if the French Legionnaires that were in California maybe jumped right into activities going on with these civilians at Camp Ripley. But I typoed on X and I wrote Camp Riley, okay? So I wrote, it's not a coincidence that the French Legionnaires were in the United States training with our Marines for three weeks. And when those three weeks ended in California, another military training exercise began alongside civilians at Camp Riley in Minnesota should have said Ripley.

2 (18m 33s):
Now you'll recall for those of you who are following the becoming Brigitte series, that the preferred Macron response is to never address the substance of the claims, but to instead focus on minor details that somebody may get wrong. That's how they've gone after every journalist who has covered the fact that Brat Macron was born a male, right? Oopsies, you messed up on this one detail and now we're gonna sue you for defamation. But not of course the substance, which is like, hey, you lived as a man for a very long time and the military won't release your file. And we don't know what you were doing in the military as Jean-Michel tro know. So me making a spelling error was the perfect way for them to attack the broader story, right?

2 (19m 18s):
The larger story here being, hey, the French Legionnaires might have been on the ground during Charlie Kirk's assassination. So what happened is the ministry, the Minister of the Armed Forces issued the following statement in France, and I'm gonna quote this for you, quote, Tyler Robinson was never part of the French Foreign Legion. If he did not serve in an American military unit, he could not have trained with a French foreign Legion end quote. That's quite a way to dance around things. Said Charlie Kirk says, I see what you did there. You just missed the fact that we don't think Tyler Robinson did.

2 (19m 58s):
So you just are issuing a statement. This is bogus. Tyler Robinson never trained in the French Foreign Legion. Do you mind answering yes or no? If anybody who trained with the French Foreign Legion was on the ground on September 10th at Utah Valley University? And we are asking that explicit question because one of the strangest things is that the UVU students who attended said that they felt like they didn't recognize anybody that was there. It was weird. It was very strange that they advertised for this event really late in the day. And then suddenly we see a bunch of adults and people that they don't recognize at this event and then afterwards the national media moves to, it looks like they're almost trying not to interview any UVU students, right?

2 (20m 45s):
They're interviewing everybody around. You've got all these adults who were there, but mysteriously the UVU students who had some interesting tidbits about what was weird that day just don't flood into the mainstream like we expected them to. Can you answer that question? Yes or no? That seems tricky when it comes to the French government. Yes or no questions or not their thing elsewhere in the article, and this is France 24 that reported this, the, it tells us that quote, the Ministry of the Armed Forces confirms that a training exercise by the second foreign infantry regiment, a unit of the French Foreign Legion, did indeed take place in California from August 2nd to, to the 25th as reported by Candace Owens.

2 (21m 28s):
However, the exercise announced on the ministry's website and the regiment's Facebook page was not clandestine, operate clandestine operation. The Ministry of the Armed Forces formally denies that another foreign legion training exercise took place at a supposed camp Riley in Minnesota after the conclusion of the California exercise. And for good reason because no Camp Riley exists in Minnesota as Andy Parrish, the former chief of staff to the Republican state representative pointed out on XO. There is, however, a Camp Ripley, they go on. But this inaccuracy speaks volumes about the credibility of Candace Owens's alleged source.

2 (22m 14s):
That's how they're debunking it. A typo. I I, I put Riley not Ripley and they can now confirm that the French Legion did not take part in any exercise at Camp Riley 'cause it doesn't exist. And Candace Owens is stupid. And so now you should just assume that everything else so said is debunked. This is what you call a non debunking debunk, a Snopes level debunking over a typo. Okay? And I guess my other allegations should not be answered or even explored. Now, I should mention also that after that civilian military exercise ended at ended at Camp Ripley at on the 27th, another joint military operation began from August 29th through to September 10th the day that Charlie was shot.

2 (22m 60s):
And that was known as Operation Brightstar and that took place in Cairo, Egypt. Now it is a bienal joint military operation. It's co-hosted by the United States and Egypt to enhance regional security and to strengthen military partnerships. I just don't love the timing of all of these things. I just don't love France and Egypt and the United States together for the whole month leading up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. So I'm gonna speculate until we get some answers. Some straight yes or no answers from the White House, from the Aliza Palace or from the French Security Forces.

2 (23m 42s):
Now as it pertains to the French Legion, something else that's kind of interesting is that they basically gutted and replaced about half of their leadership in mid-August to checkout this article published on August 20th, in 2000 2025, a change of command took place across six regiments. Now we researched and look, I'm not a military buff, we found that they have 12 regiments that are known of. And you're telling me that they gutted leadership of six, they put in six new commanders. Again, I just don't love the timing of all of this. Initially the idea of French involvement in Charlie's assassination would not have been on my radar.

2 (24m 24s):
Okay? Having them at UVU would not have been on my radar at all until we learned about that weird hangar lease in Delaware and we were trying to track the Egyptian plane, S-U-B-T-T. Our yellow plane, which departed on the morning of Charlie Kirk's assassination from Provo went over to Wilmington, Delaware. We learned that regarding that Hangar Satis, which is a French company, injected $1.5 million ostensibly to paint planes, okay? In Wilmington, Delaware, a lease that is way too short for that whatever. And they sign off on that the very week that I get sent this cease and desist, despite the fact that I hadn't been speaking about brahe, it was just weird coincidental timing and it could be a coincidence.

2 (25m 14s):
But I'm going to now test your resolve at home regarding French coincidences because for me it's getting a, it's a little too much is what I'll say. Okay? So we learned from a source that a foreign dignitary was escorted right from that hangar to nine 20 North King Street in Wilmington, Delaware. A place that we learned and confirmed had three federal agencies working together in one building. The internet can try to debunk that. They can't, okay? The Feds are not gonna debunk that because it's true. And then we learned that it is also a place which houses the attorneys that are filing my paperwork in the brae lawsuit. I explain this, Delaware has a particular legal stipulation that even if you have your own lawyers, you have to find lawyers that will fi, that will file the paperwork in your lawsuit.

2 (26m 3s):
Okay? The, the rules on that vary state by state. We then learned that Bridget's lawyers in my lawsuit are directly across the street from that firm, okay? Confirmed. We're just warming up though because the person that leaks that information about the dignitary being escorted, remember that person never insinuated that they did dig that the dignitary was French. But then after people on the internet pretended that he or she was lying about that information, they decided we conduct further investigation. They watched the episode and a light bulb goes off in their head because we're talking about satis being French owned.

2 (26m 43s):
And the person decided, we follow up and explained to us that France has effectively been running the streets in Wilmington, Delaware since like before the Revolutionary War. Okay, let's just start with a, a very basic history recap from this person's email. It all checks out. We don't need to get too deep in here regarding Delaware, Wilmington, Delaware. He or she writes a short version of the history, which is all verifiable, is that North French Street is actually the northern stretch of the original French Street. Wilmington laid out the original French Street in the early 17 hundreds as willing street in Thomas Willings grid in the 1790s, a large cluster of French speaking refugees, many of which were fleeing Haiti and the French revolutions settled along it and the nickname French Street took over this street ran all the way from the Christina River up through town.

2 (27m 40s):
It became a main hub for travel and business. Wilmington is more French than people would initially assume, and it's easy to see this once you look at its history. The north tag of North French Street is a later addressing convention for blocks north of downtown. So that's just a backup there. Okay? Now again, we're gonna have to go through this class very quickly, America, the whole idea of what we learned in class about ve now the Revolutionary War. And we were fighting because, oh, we didn't ve now the monarchy, okay? England was not even under a monarchy at that time, okay? And also I have learned in recent years that really the whole history of America is like warring factions of Freemasons.

2 (28m 22s):
That's, that's the reality. Warring factions of Freemasons competing for American territory. Now, now we're gonna get into the substance of his email. He begins with something that is speculation and I'm not gonna get too deep into, but essentially he says that across from nine 20 King there is a red crane and he's able to confirm that the French are absolutely involved in this. Somehow I found direct US French alignment near nine 20 North King Street using structural aviation markers, financial lineage, corporate fronts, and historical French corridors. Now he shows us that this, again, this is across from nine 20 North King and it starts with a huge construction site.

2 (29m 6s):
There's a huge construction site right across from there and there's a long red crane that he points out. And I'm gonna show you that crane right now because this person sent videos because L ol to anybody who thought that we were being that actually I love it 'cause it just, it pissed him off and now he's really on the ground here. You can see that crane up there and that's just a reference point to what he's speaking about. So that you can follow along here that crane is situated on 1 1 0 0 North King Street. Let's bring up the map here so you can see what's going on here. Okay, what I found on 1 1 0 0 1100 North King Street is big.

2 (29m 46s):
The actual building is called the Brace Bridge Complex. It spans over 1 million square feet it seems. It was originally built for the Maryland Bank as their bank headquarters from 1995 until 2006 when Bank of America acquired it. But in 2018, remember that's gonna be the year that Macron comes to Power Bank of America pulled out of a few of the buildings and they left it completely empty. Here is an article showing you that that is true and that Bank of America did in fact pull out of that building and leaves the Wilmington office space empty. He or she goes on to write. So you might be wondering what happened after it was left vacant.

2 (30m 28s):
Well, in 2024, legislation was passed, which would provide financial support to the Longwood Foundation, a philanthropic nonprofit that was founded by Pierre es DuPont to make it function as a quote unquote educational center. There's just one problem with that. Pierre es DuPont was a member of the French American family, DuPont, which was descended from Pierre Samuel DuPont, duh neer excuse my terrible French, A French aristocrat. DuPont also has extreme ties to both the American and the French military. Obviously we know that as they are the original manufacturers of Kevlar, which has been historically regarded as the greatest way to make bulletproof armor.

2 (31m 12s):
So now we have this prominent French family connected to this building. I think you're right to keep looking at French people even shared concerns about what was actually happening at that building. There was a residence named Miriam Deed who said quote, I just feel like I don't understand why we're doing this without there being more accountability. So in 2024, and we can show you that article, he's telling the truth. We're fact checking that people are like, what's going on in this like massive co what's go, what is the accountability here with this massive complex, okay, he goes on to say, as you can see the the complex covers six different buildings all connected to both French Street. You can bring up that map Chris, whenever, 'cause I'm just gonna keep speaking all connected to both French Street and King Street.

2 (31m 56s):
Okay, now people on X, he goes on who were trying to pretend that this was some prank said the FBI's actually at 500 Delaware Avenue, right? And 500 Delaware Avenue is a couple of blocks over. We can show you that on the map as well. Can you pull up 500 North Delaware and that is also somehow owned by France. Why is the FBI in that building? Who knows? But also having a division inside of this building is true. He says that 500 North Delaware Avenue is a cover because guess what that building is? It's another bank center. This time it's the Wilmington Savings Fun Society.

2 (32m 39s):
In 1990, nearly all of lower Delaware branches of WSFS were sold to Wilmington Trust, which was founded by T Coleman DuPont, the French American then president of DuPont to manage the growing fortune of the French American DuPont family. And guess where the Wilmington Trust is actually located? It's located at 1100 North Market Street, the building that is right next to 1100 North King Street and both are on Rodney Square. So again, we're going back to that Rodney Square. Everything is French that's happening on Rodney Square. So they were using another bank as a cover.

2 (33m 19s):
Doesn't actually disprove anything at all. What you'll also find if you keep researching is that a law firm NG mg and m moved to 500 Delaware Avenue just a few months before Charlie was assassinated. Now that could be a coincidence, but MG and and M has many employees that are either fluent in French or connected or are connected to France altogether. The FBI apparently has Suite 300 and MGM has suite 200, which I believe is exactly right below where the FBI says that they are. Okay, now he gets back into the crane location, right? Because there seems to be no public record of what the actual construction project is that is happening online except for the fact that apparently a global biopharmaceutical company called Insight owns it, okay?

2 (34m 10s):
If they're using this construction site, it seems to me that they're doing it to buy time because I actually know they're using it to buy time because they claim that it's construction. In this article on May, 2024, they say that construction is expected to take about a year. Okay, well it's been over a year, it's been about two years and by the looks of it, the entire top of that building being a skeleton tells me that it's probably going to be a few years after that as well. This is clearly not taking about a year. Also, guess who the longtime CEO of that biopharmaceutical company Insight was? Hervey Hope, no hno. And guess what? He's also friends. He's not just French but he's a French National.

2 (34m 53s):
He seems to have just exited as the CEO, but he's still running the company under the role of advisor to the CEO. He is directly responsible for this construction at Bracebridge and he was the one that finalized the deal. I find it very strange how he ran this company for more than a decade and for some reason just a few months before Charlie's death, he decides to switch roles and to start laying low. Now I'm not saying he's directly tied to anything, I'm just saying that these are all verifiable coincidences insights. That's the biopharmaceutical company that he runs is also plugged directly into the federal medical supply chains, which include our VA systems that interface with military healthcare infrastructure.

2 (35m 38s):
Okay? So to pull us all together, we have an entire French Street that is connected to nine 20 North King Street, the aircraft hangar and its company satis, which is French aligned, connected to nine 20 North King Street DuPont, the French aligned, connected to 1100 North King Street, the biopharmaceutical company in site, which is also French aligned, connected to 1100 North King Street DuPont, which is connected to 1100 North Market Street. And then we have 1100 North King Street itself, which is connected to nine 20 North King Street. And we have my lawyers and we have Bridgette lawyers. I am not loving this, okay? I'm just not loving the fact that I get a call from the federal government asking me to stop speaking about je.

2 (36m 20s):
And I think that it's kind of a funny story that a one day be in my autobiography. Truly that was my thought. Like it's funny that we're on the phone talking about like the French, why is he married to somebody born male. And I clearly was not thinking that there was maybe sort of an implicit threat involved here. Like literally just stop speaking about her. And I really do wish going back that they had tried honesty, right? They had said, Hey, JIT might be an asset to the Mossad, which is what we had received a tip regarding that we were working on confirming during Rebecoming Brigitte season two. I wish they had been more explicit and said, we really actually need you to shut up about this forever.

2 (37m 3s):
And I probably would've done it if they were just honest and said it's a national security issue. But instead they went with Emmanuel Macron's feelings are hurt, which I thought was l ol funny and obviously wanted to continue to speak about this. I, I don't even know what to make of this other than, and you can tell me if you agree. I feel like I was set up by the federal government in terms of this lawsuit. Like this wasn't just Brae and Emmanuel sitting down making a mistake by filing this cross natural, a national lawsuit, but rather federal agencies which may have been colluding. And speaking to one another about how to put an end to my research into who JIT was because all of these governments are implicated, and by all of them, I mean France, the United States and Israel implicated in whatever the hell Jean-Michel Trau was up to during the missing years of his life when he was in the military and on its surface in America, because JIT says he was in America, we know brae was in America and in the sixties at least for the moon landing, no details provided about what Brae was doing When he experienced the moon landing with Americans, I'm not getting the feeling that Jean-Michel Trudeau was just chilling at his aunt's house.

2 (38m 29s):
Okay? That was a psychological operation. I'm pretty convinced that Jit Macron has been involved on the basis of my lawsuit and the mentioning of MK Ultra 18 times absurdly in my lawsuit. Even though all we said was, Hey ji's fake birthday happens to be the same day as the MK Ultra Program. I'm thinking there might be something there like Brigitte is involved in the military file. Jean-Michel Trug now is involved in psychological operations. Okay? And I should also mention to you that the second largest shareholder for satis is Israel. Yeah, it's an Israel, an Israeli firm based in Tel Aviv called ACE Partners.

2 (39m 13s):
They are explicit, they only invest in companies and organizations that benefit Israel. That's like on their website. This is why we exist. Our mission with ACE is clear to identify, invest in and support the most promising startups that will shape the future of aerospace and defense technology. So it's military and we focus predominantly on companies in their series A and B funding rounds across aerospace and defense verticals. Our investments are global with a specific FO focus on Israel. So I'm not being anti-Semitic. That's what Ace Partners does. They are the second largest shareholder to Satist. What's is, why is Israel interested in this hangar in Wilmington, Delaware, you guys, and in case you don't think that we've really hit peak, what the hell is going on?

2 (40m 8s):
Literally what from the gates of hell is Jit Macron? Okay, in case you're not there yet, let me tell you that just to make myself feel good, I said let me just confirm where Jit Macron was on nine 10. That feels like a very easy thing to do. Like ve Now this is the first lady, lady man of France. It's a pretty busy season everywhere. We're talking early September, it's back to school. There's a lot going on and I was very comforted to see that Jit Macron had opened Paris Design Week. Makes sense, right? Opened Paris Design Week on, I believe September 4th. Very public gets, gets kind photographed with the culture, the the Ministry of Culture lady, right?

2 (40m 53s):
The head of their Ministry of Culture and actual lady. And then Jit Macron gets photographed on nine four with Zelensky Zelensky is coming in for a big interstate meeting and Brae Macron sees to it that he's also photographed with Saudi Arabia at some orchestra that Saudi Arabia is putting on. And what's interesting is that it's daytime when that photograph happens and and after that brae just falls off a cliff for six days. Bras just gone for six days and I would really like to know where Jit Macron was at for those six days.

2 (41m 37s):
Okay, I need to confirm that I need internet sleuths like you have never seen before. Where was Jit Macron on the dates that that Egyptian plane was from nine four through to nine 11? Where was Rash Macron? I would just like to know, I need to know where Rashe Macron was and I need I think an answer that question is due. I would just, it would just comfort me to know. So I'm asking you guys for help determining the answer to that. I could go on. By the way, Wilmington, Delaware also being the hub for MK Ultra is especially sweet. The email that we got that it's also the hub for transgenderism in America. Like who knew that?

2 (42m 17s):
I certainly didn't our first ever trans congressman, You guys guess where Wilmington, Delaware, that congressional district. A bunch of trans surgeries for children, drag time, story hour, like they're kind of leading America in the trans stuff. I could go on and on and on about what goes on in Wilmington, Delaware, but I think that's probably enough for right now. So let's take a brief break and we'll come back.

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2 (44m 50s):
I mean I, I actually decided I am gonna read this 'cause we're just going in and this is another tip not related to the person whose email that I just read that made me aware that Wilmington, Delaware is just very French. This person writes to me, Hey, you should also know that that area is transgendered central. There are five different NEMO children hospital centers nearby. Yes, they perform transgender surgeries or yes they do. Transgender rather a nemo. Children's hospitals are named for nemo, France, the home of the DuPont Family Hotel. DuPont is obviously walking distance from nine 20. King first and Central Presbyterian Church is an L-G-B-T-Q church that is across from that Hotel Cab Callaway School.

2 (45m 36s):
It's a short 10 minute drive. And this is where our transgendered congressman Mick Bride graduated from theater is a five minute walk. They featured transgendered productions with the drag show at least every month. The queen is an eight minute walk. They are advertising Disney drag brunches. 20 minutes back toward the airport you will find a multitude of plastic surgeons and then they list them. Wilmington University is nearby where they offer L-G-B-T-Q programs for kids and transition Delaware, LLC, which offers counseling and et cetera, has two locations and then they list them. So it's a lot of transgenderism happening in that area, which is of interest to me.

2 (46m 21s):
I just started a poll, by the way we are live on YouTube. I asked a very simple question, do you think that this lawsuit was an operation against me? That it was meant to bankrupt me? Because options when the federal government is feeling squeezed is to kill you, it's warfare or it's like mental warfare. They put you in a hospital and say you're crazy and drug you and like they did to Britney Spears like they did to Kanye West or they bankrupt you. Right? That's also one of the the mechanisms. Do you guys think that this entire thing was a trap because I didn't shop about projet and that the federal government knew that it was coming, which would explain why they never commented on the absurdity of a foreign nation coming after our speech.

2 (47m 12s):
They're not acting right. Right? Common sense. You say you care to protect free speech. Why wouldn't you comment on something that involves a foreign leader as infringing upon the speech of Americans? Even if I had made up something about Projet, which I did not. So we're gonna run that poll until the end of this show, which is coming much sooner than I anticipated. We are not gonna get to everything today. Don't worry, I have more for you tomorrow. Like I said, it's gonna be a long week. I do wanna get to this commentary because I honestly don't even understand what is happening to Pbds show, which I very much used to enjoy. I and I, I see clips floating around. So ve now it's not fair to paint with a, a broad brush, but a broad stroke.

2 (47m 58s):
But I will say that Adam Sosnick is reaching levels of absurdity here rather than at all trying to prod the narrative of whether or not there was actually an assassination attempt on my life. He decides to respond to this allegation by saying that I have no famous friends. I kid you not. This is the level of insincerity that you can al almost say it's, it's laughable at this moment of people that are engaged in the sport of politics. Take a listen to what Adam Sosnick had to say on Patrick. Be David's podcast

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8 (49m 9s):
Disgusting thing. Forget about what she said about Israel and Jews and BLM and liberals. This is friendship stuff. This is friendship stuff. You the most valuable currency you have with the relationships you have. Your friends, in my opinion, she's burned every bridge she's ever been associated with. Whether that's turning Point USA, whether that's a Daily Wire, whether that's PragerU, Charlie, Kirk, Stephen Crowder, I don't know what's going on even in this room, but it's not like we're loving what she's doing these days. I'm asking you a serious question. Who are her friends at this point? Well, to me she's very lonely. Well, I think

9 (49m 45s):
She, no, I I I think she's very close with Tucker. I do think she has a a group of

8 (49m 49s):
Friends. How many more can you name though, other than Tucker? Yeah, genuine question. I'm not trying to throw her under the bus. Who's Candace's friends? Who are her allies? Can we name a name? Anyone? Oh,

9 (49m 60s):
Anyone. She's got more than you would believe.

8 (50m 2s):
Name a

9 (50m 2s):
Name. No, she's got a lot of

8 (50m 3s):
Them. I'm sure that there's, she does Twitter army out there. Yeah, she But what famous names advocates are saying I'm with Candace. I Tucker maybe. Who else?

9 (50m 15s):
No, no, she,

8 (50m 16s):
I can't name one.

2 (50m 19s):
It's just I wanna guys just 'cause we gotta all wake up to this matrix. Okay. First and foremost, nothing he's saying is true. The first thing I'd like to clarify is I have have never been friends with Steven Crowder. I just feel like that is a really not good dirt throw on my name. I just have better intuition than that. A secondly, my friend Charlie Kirk just got shot in the neck, hence the reason we're doing this entire podcast investigation into what actually happened on that day. Now you seem to be naming employers regarding the Daily Wire. I am still friends with every single one of my colleagues that I was friends when I went in there and yeah, when you leave a job, you don't tend to hang out with management on your way out. So I'm not sure what you're referencing here. If you mean that I am not one of those basic bitches who needs to post every second of when I'm hanging out with people so that people think that I'm cool and I'm surrounded by individuals, you would be right because I'm a person who grew up on Kanye West's music and it's so funny that I was blasting his early music.

2 (51m 15s):
One of his first songs All Falls Down and he speaks about this. This is how they create the matrix. Insecure men speak like that, okay? They want people who are insecure to allow terrible things to happen because they say, well, you can hang out with me. You can hang out with, all you have to do is not talk about the Epstein Viles and you might get invited to Mar-a-Lago. Don't you wanna be invited to Mar-a-Lago? Don't you wanna go to Mar-a-Lago? Then why don't you look away When we talk about children being abused, it's so weird. Like don't you wanna have like really all of the invites to to Maa Lago and you can hang out, you can get dressed up and hang out with cool people in Hollywood. If you just look the other way when children are being abused, this is that mentality, okay?

2 (51m 58s):
It's disgusting, it's gross, but more importantly it is insecure. So I wanna remind you guys that your real friends do not need to be famous, okay? My best friends are not famous. And you should be close with your family. You should have real value in your life. Part of the matrix requires you to have this sort of instinct to think celebrities are cool and that they glitter and they're golden. The majority of them are pretty effed up and drunk. That's the reality. No, and, and by the way, on the subject of who, the kind of people that he's referring to, it was notoriously Eric Bowling that sat across from Adam when they attacked me over Charlie Kirk and lied and said that I hadn't been friends with Charlie Kirk since 2017.

2 (52m 40s):
After that episode, Eric Bowling sent me an email and apologized and said it was Adam's fault and he didn't even know Adam's name. I think he called him Sam in the email. I should actually pull it and I'll post it on, on Instagram. Didn't even know through Adam and Pbds entire team under the bus in three seconds and said, I just wanna apologize with you Candace, because that's how politics work. They all stab each other in the back and they all do it because they think they're on the pursuit of like fame and riches. We are not going to save the the West in general from the absolute sexual deviance that run it, the liars and the crooks that run the West. If we have the attitude that we need to be well liked by famous people who are all drunk, truly, they're all just a bunch of drunks hanging out in dc.

2 (53m 28s):
That's the reality of the political fields. Get real value in your life. And that's what I wanna say about that. Before I get into some of your questions, poll is still running by the way. I will tell you the total when we come back from this brief break.

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2 (55m 28s):
Okay, we actually are going to pull that email because VE now how the internet is. If I don't post a receipt, they'll say it never happened. So we are going to pull that email that Eric Bowling sent about Adam. 'cause it really demonstrates the fickleness of politics. First, getting to the poll, I asked you with all that information, do you believe the federal government worked behind the scenes to try to bankrupt me over jit, which is something that I had never considered until now. And learning about what goes on in this corner of Wilmington, Delaware, 24,856 people voted, oh, now it's about to cross. 25,000 people voted. 93% of you say yes. Okay, just making sure that you're all having the same gut instinct of me of why the heck did they sue in Delaware?

2 (56m 11s):
What is this never before seen lawsuit. It is a consequence from the Matrix for me discussing a multinational state secret, which is Brat Macron. Brat Macron's, true origins, what Brat Macron was involved in in the United States while living as Jean-Michel Tru. Now, and by the way, I think there's another identity in between there that happens potentially in the eighties for Brae before he emerges as a woman. And I think it's quite dark, whatever that secret is, to be honest with you. But we had kind of gotten sidetracked. I'm a coming Bridgette and we should maybe get back involved in it. Anyways, getting into the top comment from the last episode, and Skylar, just let me know when you have that email ready.

2 (56m 54s):
This was how did from Knit Unravel wrote, how did Andrew Cove know that it was supposed to be Candace if the killer is Tyler Robinson? That was actually something that I had never considered. I told you guys that Andrew Kovac called me from the hospital and basically said, you and Tucker should shut up because You guys are on a list. What list? Nobody mentioned that Tyler Robinson had a list. And certainly if he's killing over the topic of transgenderism, I don't think me and Tucker would be high on it. So yeah, what are we speaking about? If this was a lone shooter and just a random incident because he was defending his lover, how is there a list? What was that list that was happening behind the scenes? It's almost like Tucker and I were being threatened from the United States military, and I should really say the global state military because I do believe that we are a run by the military and that the idea of democracy is an utter delusion now.

2 (57m 48s):
Okay, great. We have the email just to fact check this 'cause it's funny and we should now call him Alex from the for the rest of our Lives. Eric wrote, Hey man, this was an email by the way, to my pr Tell Candace, I meant no harm to her. It was that Alex Guy who kept at it. He tried to corner me and he found out. If she wants to talk, I'll call her. If not, no worries. I've lost too many people in my life to get to emotional about these things. I've always respected co. That moment got blown out of proportion. Anyway, I remain, and my message back was, keep that same energy. You went onto a podcast, you lied about my relationship with Charlie right after he died, when I was still reeling from so many emotions.

2 (58m 30s):
I was then being attacked and lied about a very real relationship that I had in my life. And you're just gonna privately email this little sucker apology, keep the same energy, do it publicly. Say I lied, or I misspoke. Whichever it is. He's not done that. He is not moved to do that. I don't believe he did. At least it wasn't sent to us. And he calls and he throws that guy, Alex or whatever, who wouldn't stop talking. So that's, that's him. He's just Alex who won't stop talking on the PBD podcast because his only mission in life is to defend Z Zionism. To defend Zionists and to attack people who don't like what his Israel is doing, which is virtually everybody at this point. So anyways, I think we are just so over time that I don't know that we're gonna have too much, too much space here for comments.

2 (59m 15s):
And we have so much to cover this week. I'll read a couple of these. Mickey Shaw writes, we wrestle not against flesh and blood. We fear no man. Candace is our champion. Jesus is our king. Bless you. And that is true. We just have to commit ourselves to truth. And like I said, I sense an urgency right now. They are being so evil in our faces. They chose to publicly execute Charlie and then to dare us to question the narrative. That's scary. That is that it's meant to scare you and to instill fear in you. And the response to this, of course, has to be more truth. We cannot be fearful. We have to keep telling the truth. Feg Liano writes, these elites are horror show cruel.

2 (59m 55s):
I am understanding in a way that I didn't before, why people believe in God in the face of this. It provides meaning and comfort available from little else. Shame on officials everywhere who disregard morality, especially the powerful ones. Also, Nick, stop being so ignorant. It's annoying. Genevieve writes, Candace, you are my personal hero. Go Max six seven writes, Candace's based blessed butterfly girl writes Jeremiah 1, 7 8. Don't be afraid to speak. And also Corinthians three 17, where God is there is liberty. Absolutely. And that is why ve now I'm putting the information out there. I think people need to know that this is how things are planned. There's nothing that makes sense about what happened on that day. And when you speak to the UVU students, the fact that they didn't recognize anybody indicates that we might be looking at military regiments that were there.

2 (1h 0m 43s):
And from the information that I'm getting, which I'm going to explain later this week, I think there were some national guard, reg national guard regiments that were there. Some French foreign Legionnaires that were there, and yes, some Israelis that were there, hence the 12 Israeli cell phones. And that that information is all going to come to light. Like I said to you from the beginning, I never had for a single second the sense that they were going to get away with it. This time I felt the double head overplayed his hand and that is the circumstance we are seeing that I think Jit overplayed his hand. I think Jean-Michel Trau, the evidence is pointing to the fact that he is from a very powerful old family.

2 (1h 1m 25s):
That's pretty obvious to me. The entire Trino backstory makes entirely no sense saying that they were chocolatier and things were never interrupted. They just ran this, this chocolatier factory from like the 1880s all the way through to now. Not possible Nazis, an aerial bombardment. They occupied the city of Amon. This seems to me to be an identity that was just created and materialized for this family and that the true family is a very powerful family and that is why they are so obsessed with protecting this upsurge state secret. The whole world knows this is a dude. What are we doing here? And they are willing to go mask down into expose themselves to keep up this pretense, to keep pretending that it's a woman.

2 (1h 2m 12s):
Why did Jean-Michel have to trans have to transition, transition into a woman? What was Jean-Michel Trau involved in that required that transition? These are now the questions that I'm asking myself and ve now what if the federal government is going to brt us for telling the truth? Then I'm going to have to be the example for the world to wake up to that. Okay? Then even this lawsuit, in a weird way, is blessed because it is exposing every layer of corruption that exists. That even when you do things the right way your entire life, when you don't commit any crimes, when you do the right thing and you find someone that loves you, you get married, you have children that you will be attacked for surviving the matrix and committing yourself to truth.

2 (1h 2m 57s):
That feels like a very important lesson for the entire world to wake up to. And I think the entire world is waking up to that right now. So ve now what jokes on you, you will be hoisted by your own pitard and we will end with that French expression. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

11/22/25
Operation: “See you in Valhalla, Charlie”. | Candace Ep 270

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1 (30s):
All right, you guys, happy Friday. Some more interesting tips are coming in. It seems that that company satis at French company, the angle has opened up a whole new level of possibilities here in this Charlie Kirk assassination story. And I have to tell you, I do not think that they were just painting planes this year. Rather, we've learned that just before Charlie's s assassination, there was actually this joint military exercise which was taking place related exactly to where the Egyptian yellow plane landed on its way to Provo. We need to definitely keep at it. Zionists are mad. I don't know why this investigation really has set Zionists off.

1 (1m 12s):
I think it's because we're getting closer and Charlie would indeed want us to keep going. Max, so Welcome back to Candace. Okay, so that interview that I did with Charlie back when my show was on Prager uses network is becoming increasingly prophetic. At the end of every one of those interviews, I would ask the questions from my viewers to whoever it was that I was interviewing. And this is the question that came in from for Charlie, and this is how Charlie chose to answer that question.

1 (1m 56s):
Take a listen.

3 (1m 58s):
Okay. Who is I? I already know this. You, you kind of already touched on this. Your all time favorite historical figure. Is it Milton Friedman or is there someone else? Jesus

4 (2m 4s):
Christ. Milman. I would say, I gotta always say Jesus Christ probably. Wow, that is a great question. Historical figure. So just for like to make it fun, let's just say before 1850. Okay.

3 (2m 16s):
He's amending your question. Whoever.

4 (2m 17s):
It's yes. Whoever this is Susie from Buffalo. I'm so sorry. How did VE now? Yeah, exactly. I just, I have to choose. It is amazing, right? That's the Mensa. I mean it's, I'm kidding. So like, I mean I love the American founding fathers, Ben Franklin. I always really enjoyed ve, now I, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson are, are I think are two cliche. So one I really enjoy that I just love learning from is Julius Caesar. I think he's one of the most interesting historical figures. He, he wanna talk about someone who lived a full life, right? It's Julius Caesar from conquering Northern Romania to surviving and winning a Roman civil war, right to an unusual alliance and quelling a rebellion with Cleopatra to eventually becoming, to ending the Roman Republic.

4 (3m 4s):
To starting the Roman Empire and then seeing the people that he benefited the most turn against him, right? I think there's something very tragic and very interesting about that. So I think it's one of the most interesting, and you could learn if there's something to learn about humanity, you could, you could learn it through the prism of Julius Caesar.

1 (3m 21s):
Man, that sure is something to hear him say. That the people who benefited the most turned against him. Gaas Julius Caesar, that is correct. A general who had rightfully earned the respect of the people for leading them through the Gallic wars statesman. And finally, a leader who in the end was betrayed and famously assassinated by the very people that he helped to build up a conspiracy, a plot to murder him, which included a lot of people, politicians, of course the senators, military men, close friends and confidants, the most infamous, of course being Brutus.

1 (4m 2s):
Now, some reports say that he viewed Brutus as a son. That's how close they were. Of course, I didn't stop Brutus from plunging the knife into him 23 times. Julius Caesar was stabbed by senators and of course Brutus leading to the famed Shakespearean expression and at to brute at to you as well. You too. Wow. You have turned against me as well. Now why was Caesar assassinated? Because, I don't know, he was too good, too adored, too respected by the people, thereby a threat somehow to the establishment. The establishment of politics.

1 (4m 42s):
It doesn't like to see somebody, somebody come through the ranks and achieve what they perceive to be power that they can't control. Yeah, the Bible's very clear that there is nothing new under the sun and it appears that history is present again. Judas Brutus, in the future, when we are long gone from this world, who do you guys think is going to be the person remembered most for this act of betrayal against Charlie? Not me, that's for sure. It's not going to be Candace Owens. Okay. No one's going to be saying etch to Candace, etch to. I can tell you that right now in government there is real panic, there is real discussion happening regarding the Egyptian planes.

1 (5m 28s):
I was informed that yesterday evening because I'm getting the sense that they hold the key to solving Charlie's s assassination. The media keeps trying these weird ways to debunk them. And we're, we're going to find out, I've been confident from the beginning that this was not going to be a JFK assassination story. We are going to figure out who that foreign dignitary was who went to nine 20 North King on the morning of Charlie's s assassination who flew from Provo and landed into Wilmington, Delaware on the morning of trolley's s assassination. It is a very important question that needs answering. Gotta tell you guys that we received another email this time from somebody in the military who informed us about another piece that we were missing that could be crucial to this puzzle.

1 (6m 13s):
Taking a more serious look into that one hour layover stop when our yellow plane, S-U-B-T-T, the tail number came into the United States on September 4th. You might recall it stopped for just one hour in Minot, North Dakota, which I learned has an Air Force base. It pretty much is just the Air Force base by the way, before making its way onto Provo. And here I'm going to read to you that email that I received. It says, hi Candace, I am blank. One of the good ones military member, one of the good ones. I think one of the keys to not overlook here is bts stop over in Minot, North Dakota.

1 (6m 58s):
Why stop there at all on the fourth? Why not fly direct to Provo? Not only does Minot have an FBI office, but it also has an Air Force base among other tenants That Air Force base is home to the 891st Missile Security Forces Squadron, a combined military and civilian security force that had just come off of Operation Valhalla, a training exercise in Minnesota from the 24th to the 29th of August where the security forces practice long range shooting practice among other things. Remember on September 12th when Cash Patel ended his press conference with lastly to my friend Charlie Kirk rest.

1 (7m 39s):
Now my brother, we have the watch and I'll See you in Valhalla. Yeah, very interesting thing to say. I don't believe in coincidences. That's how he ended the email telling me to keep up the hard work. And so we investigated that and that fact checked true. Right? My Minot definitely is home to exactly what we are telling you. I didn't know anything, by the way, about the city of Minot. I can tell you that North Dakota in general is not a very populous state. Approximately 750,000 people statewide, okay? And in Minot there are just 45,000 people and that includes 5,000 people who are stationed there at the Minot Air Force and it is home as he indicated to a global command strike center, which has participation between various countries on joint exercises.

1 (8m 32s):
And we can show you right here that in the weeks leading up to Charlie's s assassination, I mean literally what he says, August 24th, 29th, operation Valhalla took place in neighboring Minnesota. So they took the Minot Minot, Minot Boys and they took 'em over to Minnesota and it included the military. And of note, the civilians, what's interesting of note civilians, and they trained from August 25th to August 29th. And we can read the details of that here. And by details, I mean this is what the public was told about what they were training for. Okay, so this is on the Minot Air Force Air Force base website. It says Operation Val Holla Strike was a week long training where the 891st squadron from Minot Air Force Base North Dakota traveled to Camp Ripley Training Center in Minnesota.

1 (9m 23s):
August 24th, 29th, 2025, the advanced training focused on air based ground defense and nuclear security tactics. The bread and butter of the squadron's mission, the training called Operation Valhalla Strike allowed the unit to complete requirements not possible at the Minot Air Force base, including full distance, live fire exercises, camp Ripley provided full distance firing ranges, which which allowed defenders to hone their rifle marksmanship and machine gun proficiency exceeding the capabilities of Standard Air Force 25 meter training ranges. Okay? The squadron of more than 250 dedicated airmen and civilians supporting the 91st missile wings, global deterrence missions mission by defending the United States with the world's premier combat ready, intercontinental ballistic missile force.

1 (10m 21s):
Okay, cool. And yeah, it sure must be something of just a coincidence that Val Hol, which kind of struck everybody as odd as was him going 33 hours, 33 hours, 33 hours, it was like there was a press conference that was happening for the American people, but he was signaling to other people who were like in the club to know what they needed to understand about what happened. Do ve now what I mean, that's how I felt about Cas Patel's press conference and the things that he was saying. It just didn't, something felt weird about it. 33 hours. 33 hours. And of course, yes, he did say something about Val holla. Let's take a listen to what K Patel said.

5 (11m 1s):
Lastly to my friend Charlie Kirk, rest now brother, we have the watch and I'll See you in Valhalla.

1 (11m 17s):
Probably just a coincidence you guys, that this operation also fits just so neatly into our timeline. I love timelines, I love neat timelines. So let's pull that up again. I'm also gonna introduce a couple of corrections to yesterday. First and foremost, July 20th, we talked about BTT, which came in for its longest trip. That's correct. From Cairo, it went through to Paris and then it went to Omaha, Nebraska, I think yesterday I said that it stayed in Wilmington for six days. No, it only stayed in Wilmington for one night. It stayed in Nebraska for the longest stretch, yet departing from Nebraska, from Lincoln, Nebraska in particular.

1 (11m 60s):
And this six day stretch of what they were doing in Nebraska actually might offer us a clue because during this stretch on July 22nd, the Nebraskan Secretary of State, Bob Evan, announced that they were going to put together a trade and investment delegation to Cairo, Egypt. What are the odds? You got this plane from Cairo, Egypt and we're gonna pull this up and show you. And suddenly you got this guy Bob Evans and he says, yeah, ve now what? Let's, let's plan a trip to Cairo and see if we can make some money with them. I'm gonna let you listen to, I think we have a news clip that will show you that that happened.

7 (12m 42s):
Nebraska Secretary of State, Bob Evans, is inviting business and industry leaders to take part in a trade mission investment mission to Egypt later this year. Egypt's position in North Africa makes it an ideal gateway to doing business in the greater Middle East region. And our state excels in several sectors that Egypt is keen to invest in, including agricultural goods, manufacturing, water management, medical technology, and more. The mission is currently scheduled for October 26th through November 2nd. However, the dates are subject to change those interested in joining the delegation to Egypt can visit the Secretary of State's website or contact the office to learn more.

1 (13m 26s):
And I wanna say to my Nebraskans, we, we should probably figure out, I didn't have time to do this. We should go through a schedule and see who we met with. Because I feel like that idea might be related to our planes. I just don't think like people in Nebraska are sitting around like, Hey, we should go to Cairo, Egypt. And it happens to line up with this plane that comes in at literally comes in at the, on the exact same day. I I also minor correction, I think yesterday I said that Tucker spoke on July 18th. He actually spoke on July 11th. I just kind of copy and pasted that over wrong. So we made that correction. Anyways. Yeah, we can then see that we've added this addition. This Val Halla is now here on our timeline from August 24th or 29th.

1 (14m 8s):
They have this joint operation Valhalla that's taking place at Camp Ripley. And we are really getting tight here. We are talking about a T minus 12 days until Charlie Kirk is going to be assassinated. And here's what I hope You guys are seeing here. Why I have said this was so clearly a military operation. Everything about this story is military, okay? We are receiving tips and we had been receiving tips. I had ignored previously that the French Foreign Legion was involved somehow in the assassination. Time will tell, okay? And I will present that more formally when I feel like we have concrete evidence, but we have begun the process of sharing information with other content creators because there's something about this that feels that holding information is not going to help us.

1 (14m 57s):
We have to, as soon as we get it, spread it with people that we trust, people that are actually fighting for Charlie, people that are actually going max and telling the truth during this tremendous time of deceit. And what I can say for certain thus far is that the list of military connects in this story is just too long. Okay. Charlie Surgeon, Dr. Lee Trotter, the the alleged surgeon, the who apparently spoke about the miracle we're supposed to assume, spoke about the miracle, the 30 odd six. Again, he's not been confirmed, but we are pretty solid. This is our guy who happened to be a pilot who did his residency at an Air force base. Oh, okay. That's interesting.

1 (15m 36s):
We told you that Deidra Amaro, Dr. Deidra Amaro is the medical examiner, Charlie's medical examiner, who they've curiously not wanted to address publicly. Yeah, I told you she's also a major in the military. Oh, who would've thunk it? Andrew Covet, obviously his brother and his cousin are captains in the military as a fact. Frank Turk who's there for the assassination is a naval flight officer. His sons are in the Air force. That's a fact. McCoy's naval intelligence background in psychological operations 'cause of granddad and famed actually is grand. The McCoys famed. There was like a fleet of ships named after the McCoys. Very high up military.

1 (16m 17s):
The video, the only two videos that we have that were recorded allegedly of the shooter, first and foremost, the video of him running away after the shot way too fast if he was actually crouched down shooting common sense, it's too fast. You couldn't be in a sprint that quickly for anybody that's actually fired a rifle. Ve now that you can't go from a crouching position to a full sprint in a split second. Well that video was recorded by a person that is in the ROTC. I hunted that person down. Very strange. They didn't want to be involved and sent it through three people to release onto the internet. And then it is boosted. And that's the video that everybody sees supposed to make us think that there was actually someone on that rooftop.

1 (16m 58s):
Then there's the video that the other, the second video, which is the guy laying down before the shot, right? That also was recorded by a person in the military who actually teaches shooting. So it, this is not a military campus guy, Burton Hibbs Butch, the brother of Pastor Jack Hibbs. Jack Hibbs phones up Charlie. He is like, Hey, can my brother come? Can my brother come and and listen to you speak I guess this whatever it was a hotbed. Older people just love Charlie Kirk in Utah. Very hard to find a student that was just VE now on campus that day and went to hear Charlie speak probably because they barely advertised this event for a reason.

1 (17m 39s):
Obviously I think they wanted to control who was there and there could have been a lot of people there that were controlled military men. That's my viewpoint. But Burton Hibbs Butch is the brother of Pastor Jack Hibbs, obviously sons, I showed you of an Air Force chief. Tyler Robinson is a boy scout whose uncle Mitchell may be related. People have pulled this off of the internet and I don't have a photo for you today, I should have of grabbed it. Amber Robinson. There's just fo photos of them visiting an Uncle Mitchell. Is this a Mitchell that allegedly convinced him to turn himself in? Who's working? He, he's very much involved in the military.

1 (18m 20s):
I I believe with shooting in Ukraine of all places, it's getting shady. And of course our now infamous planes, S-U-B-T-T and S-U-B-N-T are Egyptian military planes. And every plane that seems to be a flying over UVU UVU that day is somehow military contracted planes. So are we supposed to think that this is all by coincidence or are we looking at an obvious military operation? And here's something else that I wanna share with you. As I've reviewed this footage and ev, any time that I think that somebody is shady or somebody is brought to my attention that is involved or I would like more information on, they happen to be wearing a maroon shirt.

1 (19m 3s):
Have you guys noted this? Everybody that day, like I know, look, everybody's liberal and guys wear pink and ve now abercrombie's a thing. But I have never in my life looked at, I mean every guy seems to be wearing maroon that I'm, I'm like, who is this guy? He is wearing aroon shirt, always wearing aroon shirt. Tyler Robinson is where everyone's wearing maroon shirt as if they were told to wear maroon shirts to identify each other. I'm communicating this to you because it keeps coming up in my research and I think it means something. I think we need to hone in on the men, the people in the audience that are wearing maroon shirts. I don't think it's your go-to color for most men. In fact, it was so often that I was seeing this color that I reached out to my source at Utah and I was like, maybe it's a school color, maybe actually they're all buying shirts and buying t-shirts and the school color for UVU is maroon.

1 (19m 54s):
And he told me, no, it's not maroon. So this feels like something that we shouldn't ignore. I did, I was able to track down a couple of episodes ago, I was telling you this bush situation seems to be a little odd. People thought they saw somebody speaking to a bush and I was able to determine who that person was that kind of comes out of the bush. Again, not saying this person has done anything wrong, but unusually, when I went to check that person's socials they had posted on September 10th about their bulletproof skateboard that I don't know if it was like a promo for his skateboard or whatever it was, but didn't do any follow-up post about Charlie Kirk.

1 (20m 34s):
Nobody in his family posted about Charlie Kirk. You had a front row seat and you watch Charlie Kirk die and I guess no social posts about it, wasn't interested, maybe wanted to stay out of it. And then I obviously find out that his dad is, is, was, is the head of, and I hope I'm saying that correctly, president of the Mormon temple in Los Angeles, his name is this person that was behind the bush is Jacob Cassian. And then it just kind of becomes like a dark hole trying to figure out his father and his father's connections to the Middle East. So I am still working on that. But yes, he as well was wearing a maroon shirt. I think we need to pay attention to that as we widen our investigation.

1 (21m 15s):
Because if I was the military and the reason we didn't promote this event, and again we're theorizing here, but the reason we waited to the very last second to put up posters about this event was 'cause you didn't, 'cause you actually did wanna control who went there that day. You didn't want a bunch of people driving in from all over to see Charlie Kirk. You wanted to control what videos were going to hit the internet. You controlled who everybody who was video recording. I I, I even think, and I, I'll have to check this, that the people that were live streaming that day had military backgrounds as well. If I wanted to control all of that and I also wanted to use like civilians to show up, I would make sure they all knew to wear a certain shirt or to wear a certain hat so they knew who they were.

1 (22m 1s):
That's me. If I'm running a military operation, which I feel like I, I know because I I do run kind of a toddler military operation, that's a good way to indicate ve. Now who at Disney World is your family? Everybody wearing the same color? So I think we should be clued into that. Keep continue to follow our instincts and to get as much information as we can because we are getting close, they are getting, I mean radical in these non debunkings yesterday they were trying to make a trend that I got pranked by the person who wrote me the email. I told you I had run that up a chain for weeks to make sure everything was legit about that location. And it is 1000% legit and it caused a lot of panic.

1 (22m 42s):
And we're getting a lot of phone calls now from people telling us it has caused panic. The Egyptian planes definitively were pulled into satis and that person was then escorted for whatever reason that foreign dignitary was ex escorted to that facility where they have joint operations going on between the DHS and the DOJ being the Secret service and the FBI and the DEA, not none of this is normal. We all sense that none of this is normal and it very much feels to me like it was a deep state operation. And like I said, they're not gonna get away with it. So we're gonna take a, a brief break and throw some of our sponsors.

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1 (25m 22s):
Okay, so one of the things that is just getting weirder by the day is the general public having to pretend like the United States is not completely infiltrated by Zionist psychopaths and it's just getting odd, right? They're going through extraordinary lengths to let us know that they have all the power and they're gonna do whatever it is that they want. And they're just engaging in naked propaganda to serve the state of Israel. So lemme show you a couple of these headlines. I guess let's start with Mike Huckabee. He is the ambassador to Israel and apparently it's completely shameless now, just to go back, in case you missed it, back in October, Mike Huckabee and the former US Ambassador to Israel, which was David Friedman, took to the stage in Jerusalem to perform Sweet Home Alabama and by Sweet Home Alabama.

1 (26m 12s):
I mean sweet home Jerusalem in Hebrew or something. Just watch it and hey, challenge, no cringing

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1 (27m 14s):
I'm starting to think that Israel wants us to hate them. Like that's the ultimate psyop. They want us to hate them. I mean it's like, it just, this is, it's unbelievable the factor of cringe. And if that's not humiliating enough, Mike Huckabee just went over to Israel and met with Jonathan Pollard. Okay, Jonathan Pollard, if that name is not familiar to you, is a literal convicted Israeli spy. This is the headline. Yeah, there he is. Seems like a good guy. American who spied for Israel says he met Ambassador Mike Huckabee to thank him for his support because he did support him. Jonathan spent 30 years in prison on espionage charges after being found to have pretended to work for the American government, but was actually working to pass documents over to Israel.

1 (27m 57s):
That's kind of a theme. Our greatest ally, it's just a theme with our greatest ally. And despite being found guilty, despite spending 30 years in prison, people were saying we should be kinder to this guy. And Huckabee was among several pro-Israeli politicians who advocated for Jonathan Pollard to be released. And he, when he was released, was welcomed in Israel. Like the carpet, the red carpet was rolled out for him. I think literally. And I think Bibi Netanyahu met him, met him on the runway like you did. You've served us well and who cares if the American people suffered. So you think my huckabee would go, I'm not gonna meet with him because that shows that I am an Israel firster.

1 (28m 37s):
But there was just a level of shamelessness that, I don't know, what was it that, that Carolyn Levitt said? Carolyn, they asked Carolyn Levitt about this at the White House and she said, and I quote, the White House was not aware of that meeting, but the president stands by our ambassador. Well said Caroline. I mean, what I just so ve now this, I didn't know he was gonna meet with a traitor, but we stand by him anyway. If he's meeting for a traitor and the reason we stand by him is because we're all traitors. We are all treasonists. I hate everyone. I hate that this is allowed. I think it's, it's fair for us to hate that it's allowed. And we do have a bunch of treason spies.

1 (29m 19s):
Their job, I guess is to further enslave us to the gang colony in the Middle East that is pretending that they have been ordained by God to murder. And yeah, I don't know. There is some dic relief coming though. Tim Dylan co covering anything is always hilarious. And he is covering the occupation of our media because it's just so in our faces now. It's, it's never been this in our face. Ve Now, before we get to what he had to say about Barry Weiss, I wanna remind you that Barry Weiss started and is a part owner at least of the free press. Before the, before she went on to CBS news, she notoriously left New York Times and said it was biased and we needed to have something that was in the middle of the line.

1 (30m 7s):
And she just couldn't get behind all of this COVID propaganda. And she was gonna start the free press and they were gonna go back to doing hardcore real, non-biased journalism. So what kind of journalism are they doing over at the free press? Okay, this is a real email. I'm not being funny. I feel like you're gonna think I, this is SNL that fluttered into my inbox the other day from a writer. His name is Ashley Rehberg. And this is the, I'm just gonna read you the email. This is it. It says, hi Candace, I'm reporting a piece for the free pa Free press on the economics. Ooh, economics. I like economics. This must be straight middle of a line, right? There can't be any bias here. I'm reporting a piece for the free press on the economics of high engagement, political content on YouTube and podcast platforms.

1 (30m 54s):
I'm reaching out for comment regarding several assertions that you've made in recent episodes, including claims about Israel, the death of Charlie Kirk, and the Becoming Brigitte series. I also want to ask about the financial side of your operation because it is central to the story. Here are his five questions. One, since publishing anti-Israel and anti-Jewish claims, have you seen a measurable increase in watch time, subscriber growth or revenue across YouTube Rumble or your podcast feeds? Two, have sponsors and ad partners or platform reps encouraged or pushed back on this shift in content direction. Three, do you see any correlation between escalation in claims and the performance metrics that drive you, your business retention average viewer duration, C-P-M-R-P-M, member conversion, et cetera?

1 (31m 40s):
Four, to what extent do you view conspiracy content as an editorial choice versus a business decision? And five, do you believe your recent content about Israel and Jewish influence is rooted in evidence? Or do you see it primarily as commentary? Yeah, no, I'm, and I'm gonna get back to 'em obviously. I'm just gonna, I have to just pull up, I have to pivot over to that, that SS tab, ve now the Hitler tab, which shows the metrics of exactly how people are responding to anti-Jewish, what do you say, anti-Jewish rhetoric. And we just have to pull that from YouTube. 'cause that's, I can see we've done some tests and obviously the advertisers have been, that's the whole thing. That's the, the nature of the business obviously is that you can only make money.

1 (32m 22s):
The only people that are being successful, that are successful at all, it's pretty obvious is because they hate Jews. That's kind of what's implied. Why do we have to pretend this is journalism, right? Are you shocked if I tell you that Ashley Rehberg, he happens to live in Tel Aviv, like he just cannot make it up. Like just write your articles, stop pretending that you're a journalist. It's totally fine. Your job is to write hit pieces to say that you guys are being victimized at all times forever, since the beginning of time. And it's not, it's obviously not anything that you're doing that's causing a reaction. I mean what? It's not like they're just genocided Palestinians right now. So it's about metrics, it's about the SS tab that's behind the scenes of YouTube.

1 (33m 5s):
So I'll get that content, I'll get those metrics over to you. Ash, looking forward to that. Further to that commentary, Tim Dylan, who always gets me in trouble, I don dunno how he never gets sued. It feels wrong. Like I'm engaged in, I make one slight mention joke about Alexis Wilkins referring to Tim Dylan's content and us getting a strike and she goes on a rant against me, not against Tim Dylan. Okay, I'm speaking about Brae and MKO. Trevor je sues me, not Tim Dylan, who she mentions in the lawsuit. So I'm just asking if anybody wants to sue Tim Dylan. That's all I'm saying. Okay, go after him. I'm enjoying his content.

1 (33m 46s):
It's his fault. Here's what he had to say about Barry Weiss's installation because that's what it was she just installed. It's not a meritocracy at the head of CCB CBS news. Take a listen

9 (33m 57s):
Barry. We is basically telling people, why don't you pretend I'm not here to destroy this whole thing? 'cause that's what I'm here to do. I'm not gonna pretend that I'm not pretending I, I have, I don't have the time to pretend that I have not been sent on a mission to destroy this legacy broadcasting institution. I'm here to destroy it. I'm here to make it a vessel of state propaganda. Which state? Well, we know which state. It's not America. It's to be a vessel of state propaganda. It's all, it's all it's supposed to be. It's not supposed to be anything else.

9 (34m 38s):
And Barry Weiss, to her credit, is not pretending she's there to do anything else. She's going, why are there standards and practices? Why are they showing the Palestinian reach for the cookie when we blow their head off? Why are they doing that? Why are they asking these questions? Why are they saying this? She's very, very much 100% on board. My job is to get rid of any independent voice at CBS. We're here to destroy the network and get rid of anybody that would stand in our way. We are here to deliver state propaganda. That's all.

9 (35m 18s):
That's what they're there to do. And not our, not the United States. Not the United States propaganda, by the way. She is there to deliver Israeli propaganda. She knows it. We know it. Larry Ellison hired her to do it. That's okay. They've already got a blacklist of actors who will never work at Paramount. It doesn't matter. No one cares. Nobody watches any of this crap.

1 (35m 39s):
He is exactly right. It's, I don't even understand why we have to go through this process. Like just write the article. Just do the propaganda. You don't have to reach out to us. We all know what's happening. Your job is just naked propaganda to convince us like you're, you're going to be the authority on blackballing certain people, writing kid pieces about them making sure that they could not function in this economy. This is the state. They are the state and they want you to know. And like he said, it is not America, it is not the United States that they're doing this for. I just don't know where this is all going. I guess like are we gonna be put back in the Gulag? Like are Christians going back in the gula? I don't know. But we're surely going to find out. I'm gonna take a brief break for our sponsors and I'm gonna get into some of your comments.

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1 (39m 3s):
Yeah, I mean look, I I did not wanna see the French angle. We got tons of emails from people saying that. And I was like, that would be too crazy. But ve now somebody that is this sinister in terms of harassing people, suing people, going after people who even discuss the truth of their history. Like that is, that's a committed psychopath. Ve now there's no shame there. And yeah, Brie's a gangster. Like he's a gangster. There's no question about it. And the people that are sending us tips like we should look further into satis. It is correct. By the way, we did look into that. Somebody had said that they did in late July have a CEO switch for one of their subsidiaries in Hamburg, Germany, which is of course interesting 'cause that is where Jean-Michel Trau disappears for a couple of decades and go and joins the military.

1 (39m 52s):
And they certainly did. And that the CEO is an Israeli and it's in Hamburg. There's a lot going on there with satis. And like I said, we're information sharing in the background and we are definitely getting closer. I I think Icarus is flying a little too close to the sun. If what we're hearing turns out to be true, it is going to be well transformative in, in all of the right ways for our society and understanding just how evil and sinister this thing can be. Second biggest comment from yesterday's episode, it was supposed to be you, is an insane thing to say to someone after an assassination. It was wild.

1 (40m 32s):
It was, it was gnarly. And I look, there was a reason I had to take a break. I was just, I can't even explain to you like I, how I felt like I, I was just physically sick from having watched Charlie's s assassination. I was physically sick from then being told that I was on the shortlist, that they were going to move to try to murder me as well. And then the guilt, everything that came with it, and then people trying to delete my life. Unfortunately, I didn't even know Charlie. It was just, I don't know. I, I mean I am tremendously if I could pat myself on the back for anything, it's that I came out the other side of that because it was meant to traumatize me and it was traumatizing, but it was meant to render me, I guess inefficient.

1 (41m 22s):
And it actually now is tethering me to, I think a lot of us, right? Like it was supposed to like us, make us silent. And now we're realizing, whoa, we have to stop and, and and drop the petty politics and recognize that there is something way more evil going on and we are all committed and we are in this thing and we are all going. Max, we have a comment from Jamie Lucci today. Jamie writes, we should look into how the French language translates into English when a French person is trying to fabricate a combo between two young male love lovers. It might come out sounding like the ridiculous text combo. Maybe some words in French translate to my love actually. Yeah, French is a very romantic language.

1 (42m 3s):
Yeah, that's, that is such an interesting and creative perspective there. This is why I love decentralized intelligence agency. Holly Carlin writes, we needed a hoodie that says Go max, the get me outta Here Rights. It's my sister Amanda's 30th birthday. You've given us confidence to fight this fight with you. Truth in a time of deception is the most powerful weapon that we have. I believe your purpose is to point others to the truth for the sake of the next generation. Okay? To the hoodies ongo Max. I I, when we solve this thing, we will do that. I wanna, I wanna make sure we hit the max. Ve now. Well maybe we'll even have gone max or went Max and happy birthday to Amanda. I am happy if I have helped in any way to give people the confidence to fight.

1 (42m 45s):
And we are in a time of tremendous deception. But we are also in a time of tremendous revelation. Mary Everett writes, my money is on the French I am. Now the more this timeline comes together, it's getting interesting is what I would say. And clearly this has to be a very powerful organ. I mean, it has to be something or someone that is so powerful globally that they have the ability to strike fear into the heart of American politics. Meaning that they are willing to tell lies to the American people. Such absurd lies to the American people like Patel, but leaders of our government are lying to us and telling us not to believe our own eyes.

1 (43m 30s):
So whatever that is, that is sitting behind them, yeah, that's power. Okay. That's gotta be generational power. That's not, that's not, Hey, I'm new here and trying this thing out. Melissa b writes, I really, really want to believe that Charlie is in witness protection that the FBI and the POTUS set up, set it up to catch Bebe Christ ism will always be king. Love you. I can tell you that that is not at all what happened. I know people were saying that like Val Halla used to be a program out in New Zealand. Guys, if you can look it up and figure out that it's a program in New Zealand, it's not a good program, right? So I that's like the most hopeful wish that I think all of us wanted to, I definitely went to the face where I was like, I just hope he's alive and none of this is real.

1 (44m 11s):
And I had to then contend with the fact that it's very real. And that was obviously in large part due to my contacts that saw Charlie's body and can't deny that l of the Weger rights. I lost the cringe challenge. What you didn't like sweet home, Jerusalem. No. Mm, weird. As gadgets writes, thank you for all that you do. Keep going Max. Thank you guys. Luxe. Lulu writes, stand firm. We see the cardinal virtues in your reporting. What was done in secret will be revealed, especially thanks to your courage and the courage of all of you guys around the world. People have taken real risks like that person did to tell me that a foreign dignitary was being brought to nine 20 North King, by the way, to their like false debunking where they said Kit's lawyer is in this office.

1 (45m 1s):
So to clarify matters for you guys. First and foremost, there were parts of that letter that I did not read for a very specific reason. Secondly, my lawyer, as you guys know watching the show has always been Noah. And the way that lawsuits work is state by state. They have different laws. And so when we oddly got sued in Delaware, we have to, Noah then has to attach his license, meaning he's my lawyer on this case, but he has to find a, a legal firm that will take us and allow us to attach their license to him in order to file paperwork. That's how this, that's just how it works. So in every circumstance, in every lawsuit that I've been involved in, you will see that it's not, it's never Noah that's actually filing or listed on any of the paperwork for that reason.

1 (45m 43s):
And it can vary state by state. But it's, I've always seen that to be the case. I was not aware of that. B for this letter is what I will say and I will, that is what I will say. I will say that right now because I think that is enough to say one Antonio writes this Thanksgiving hug the friend, the family that you once dismissed or hounded for not voting or for being conspiracy theorists. If you are waking up to how things really work, show them love when you see them. Yes and you definitely should do that. 'cause I think we're all seeing that the conspiracies are real left and right by the way that people we're telling the truth at various times. And that there is great tremendous evil.

1 (46m 25s):
That much of this is a matrix. The system is rigged, it is not fair and it can only stay rigged if we keep arguing with one another. Grace Gray Scout Epsilon writes, how are American politicians able to act on behalf of a foreign nation against its own citizens and not be considered treasonous because everything is fake and gay and we obviously are how this whole ideal in America as a meritocracy anybody can make it is completely fictitious. Bloodlines are ruling the world. That's kind of been my conclusion after this year. Lucky Island writes, watching Joe Rogan's podcast with the Yvan made me a little nervous. Joe seemed to be self-censoring himself and changing the subject whenever Israel or billionaire sex offenders were mentioned.

1 (47m 6s):
I have not watched in its entirety I know, but Joe Rogan has definitely had people on and spoken about Israel. He's really gone there. He had Ian Carroll, so that would be unusual. Yeah, Joe Rogan has definitely taken a lot of risks. I haven't seen it and he definitely has shouted out this podcast and a lot of the work that we are doing. But AI may be, and look, everyone gets hounded and it's annoying to have to go through the cycle of being hounded by advertisers and he may have just not wanted it to go through it for the umpteenth time. Yeah. Anyways, you guys, we do have the book club, so I'm gonna jump off. We will need about 15 minutes and then I will meet you guys over on Candace Owens dot com and for the rest of you, we'll see you on Monday.

11/21/25
Another French Front: Did Charlie Kirk Save My Life? | Candace Ep 269


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1 (31s):
All right, you guys. I know that I say that every episode is going to be explosive, but the lies and the intentional misrepresentations that are being delivered by Turning Point USA and their affiliates, they are really reaching a fever pitch because we can confirm that Brian Harpo lied badly to Sean Ryan the interview that one of the heads of security gave the other day. And I'm going to explain to you how we know that. I'm starting to think that we should believe that nothing they've told us is real. Plus I don't think we can reasonably ignore that odd French company in Delaware now that our source proved to us that it certainly wasn't established to provide any maintenance to those Egyptian planes and it was more than likely a front for something else.

1 (1m 21s):
We should address that because I know that many of you guys were wondering whether or not Charlie's assassination was meant to distract us from the Briget Macron investigation. And rightfully so. That is a fair question because as you guys know, it was Charlie Kirk that called me and told me that they wanted me to stop speaking about Bridgette. But the question is always who is they? Who is they? Welcome back to Candace.

1 (2m 2s):
Grief is weird. Okay? I gotta tell you, in those weeks following Charlie's assassination, I didn't feel like myself. I felt like I was honestly having an out of body experience. I didn't want to accept things. Obviously ve now, that's the reason that I went away to Wyoming. But with every week that we move further from September 10th, I have more clarity and I'm starting to focus on things that happened in those early days. And there are certain things that are playing in my mind over and over again. I would say that happened in the first 72 hours following Charlie's assassination. I was in a state of trauma and not for a single second during that state of trauma, did I believe that turning point USA would later be involved in what seems like a coverup, right?

1 (2m 50s):
It seems like if you have to lie ever, it's because you're covering up the truth. Duh. And like I said, my initial sense was that all of us would come together and try to figure out who did this because the Tyler Robinson story wasn't making any sense. Well, I wanna tell you guys this. There's another phone call that I had with Andrew Colette where I was crying on the phone with him. I mean, I am talking maybe 72 hours max after Charlie was killed. And he was also upset on the phone. But he said something and it's hitting differently the more that I think about it, he said, and I quote Candace, it was supposed to be you.

1 (3m 32s):
It was supposed to be you. Now at the time I dismissed this as some sort of bargaining, right? That's an actual stage of grief. You do bargain. You wish that it was this person, you could trade it. Maybe you wish that it was yourself. And to be honest, I did go through that phase of bargaining with Charlie. Like why didn't it happen to somebody else? It's just a good person who had his whole life ahead of him. I mean, I told you that even my father went through that stage of grief. My father was like, this makes me feel terrible because Charlie has lived his life so admirably and like I've had so many chances in life, so many illnesses, and ugh, it just makes me so sad. But now I'm feeling a little bit different, removed from a situation like now I'm going, was I being, I don't know.

1 (4m 20s):
Was he being honest? Was Andrew being honest? Was Andrew trying to maybe communicate to me after, especially given the fact that I told you that while the actual day on September 10th while Charlie was in the hospital, he told me that there was a list and that me and Tucker Carlson were on it and that we had to lay low. But he never told me who told him that. I never got a call from the feds telling me that. So I feel like these questions I ve now are quite valid. Andrew, by the way, was not the only person who called me on that day and reached out to my family on that day with this warning, immediately cautioning me and Tucker to keep our mouths shut, telling us that we should lay low. 'cause there was a quote unquote list going around.

1 (5m 2s):
Another person was a very well-known woman who happens to be married to a CIA contractor. Same exact message, you and Tucker Carlson. But of course, we cannot tell you who we are getting this information from. I'm starting to realize as I consider who the sources are and their closeness to the military, and now that we've gotten into the story and realize that virtually everybody there that day has these military ties, that that threat may have been coming from the government actually, that the globalized government that we live under, right? L ol to the idea that we have any national sovereignty may have wanted me and Tucker to watch our friend die.

1 (5m 45s):
And then that global gang wanted us to know that you will be next if you don't shut up. Like really it was supposed to be you. And this new saddest angle is not something that seems subtle to me when I consider that. It was Charlie that called me. It was Charlie that said that they want me to stop speaking about je. And now I consider sas, which according to our source, our well placed source is a front, right? Suddenly this French company comes in and purchases leases a hangar for only two years, okay? And during immediately this becomes a location where our Egyptian military plane is going to land in Wilmington, Delaware not to get service.

1 (6m 31s):
We know there was no maintenance happening because there was this lack of a lease since 2021. All of this now feels really interesting, very interesting. And don't forget that that same court court, that same source, claimed that after our Egyptian plane till number S-U-B-T-T landed into this federally monitored hanger and a foreign dignitary was then discreetly moved to nine 20 King Street, which we've learned and confirmed houses, the DEA, the FBI and the Secret Service, quite rare, right? Quite rare for the Department of Justice to be coming together with a DH.

1 (7m 13s):
I mean, that's weird. So what does France have to do with it, right? What does Tucker Carlson have to do with it rationally? When I begin to create a timeline of when my life took a very different turn, it is because I began prodding the narrative on Israel at the exact same time that I began looking into the Brae Macron story. That was in March of 2024. It was on March 13th, 2024 that I did the very first ever episode on Brae Macron, right? And then wham, I am fired within 10 days. It's a pretty quick turnaround.

1 (7m 53s):
Charlie, of course was a staunch defender of mine. Immediately when I got fired publicly and privately, he held, he held my back and then suddenly donors start to squeeze him and tell him that I can no longer hit the stage at Turning Points and fest. They want me gone from a turning point roster, right? I bring my new independent show back in June and the timeline actually when I start to put these things together, is interesting. So we're gonna bring that up here because I like timelines. It makes things neat, right? So we are in 2024, right? March 13th, I do that first episode regarding Bridget Macron. March 19th, just six days later, I'm fired from a Daily wire. I thought it was 10. It's actually six days later I get fired from a Daily Wire.

1 (8m 33s):
Then in mid-November I begin communicating with Xavier Sard regarding the potential to interview him during an upcoming trip to London. Xavier Sard is a person who wrote the Becoming Bridgette book. He has never been sued for defamation. And I was only going to interview him one time because he had never been on camera. And I thought that would be a great, great get. And I still believe that Brae Macron was born a man named Jean-Michel Trau. Suddenly on December 3rd, before I interview him, I receive the first ever cease and desist letter from Brae Macron and her lawyers. And the funny thing is I didn't receive it. They sent it to a really strange inbox that was not monitored, right?

1 (9m 18s):
This is only, and this is on December 3rd, you can see, please see attached the time sensitive legal correspondence sent on behalf of our clients President Emmanuel Macron and Burjeet Macron, we urge you to provide this correspondence to legal counsel. Promptly. They sent it to the Club Candace info. I was totally a random box sent it to, so we didn't get it. We go back to our timeline. That's December 3rd and seven days later is when it's announced that satis, that's, that's when it's publicly announced that satis, that French company has inked a deal in Wilmington, Delaware for a hangar. Okay? They're suddenly a French company, the CEO who knows Emmanuel Macron, we've confirmed that decides they're gonna sign a two year lease for an airport hangar to do what?

1 (10m 5s):
To Pink planes. I'm not kidding. Elsewhere. In that article, it tells us that it's a French multinational company that specializes in the painting of aircraft and they plan to open for business in a hangar not far from Wilmington Airport, come the new year. So in 2025 this is gonna be their hangar. Okay, interesting. Back to our timeline. That is publicly announced on December 10th. And then on December 18th, Tom Claire sends another follow up email regarding the cease and desist. And again, I don't receive it 'cause he's sending it to this random box. I am forever thinking in my brain Now what if I had received it, I would've been spooked.

1 (10m 49s):
I would've thought that they were monitoring communications between me and Xavier Sard. The obvious answer, because I hadn't been speaking about Brae Macron on my podcast. So what, what was, what was up with the cease and desist? I think my suspicion is they knew that I was moving to interview Xavier Sard, which I then did, as you can see on the timeline, on December 21st, I interview Xavier Posar in London. We did not release it, right? We fast forward, we receive after he forwards it to our actual attorney and we receive the communication and it actually just makes me angry 'cause I'm pregnant now we're in 2025 and I decide that actually I'm gonna turn this now to an entire season because who are you French first man to tell us that we can't speak about the story, which is incredibly interesting.

1 (11m 38s):
And on January 31st, I release the first episode of becoming je JE Season one airs. And obviously this show goes viral because it was a

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1 (12m 21s):
Shocking story. An unbelievable story. People worldwide going, what the heck is going on? It's not what the, the press told us. It really kind of, it, it, it shocks your core that the press could be in on telling a lie this big. And then on February 17th, we premiere my sit down with Xavier Psar. Okay, jumping back into this timeline, that's on the 17th that that email comes that we, we premiere that sit down interview with Xavier Brossard and a couple of days later on February 24th, Charlie Kirk reaches out and he tells me that the White House is asking me to stop speaking about JIT.

1 (13m 2s):
And he tells me that it is related to the peace deal in Ukraine. That is ostensibly the reason. On the same day, if February 24th, that's how quickly the phone call happened. This is the day that Donald Trump meets with Emmanuel Macron. Do we have that? By the way, the text message between me and Charlie, here we go. Yeah, this is February 24th. I'm showing you guys this. Now, hey, I have something to tell you from the White House. They asked me to call you. I'm just the messenger here, but it's important. I say, okay, I'm around, call me. Then we have the phone call and I then I was like upset about the phone call 'cause I was pregnant and then I felt bad and I was like, okay, let me think about it. 'cause I don't want people in like in Russia to be killed because I won't stop speaking about brae if the Ukraine peace deal is actually was at the center of this.

1 (13m 47s):
And he says, okay. And then I, I tried to say I will circle back tomorrow or maybe I said tonight, call if you wanna chat at all. And we did. We chatted the next day. You can see he starts with the White House just asked for your number. FYI I think POTUS might call you. And that's is not what happened on February 25th, actually, Sergio Gore called me and asked me to stop speaking about brae. And it was felt more like an order than a request and I did not respond in kind to that. February 26th, president Donald Trump calls me and asks me to stop speaking about brat. Now Charlie's in the middle of this communications are happening between me and Charlie about jit, okay?

1 (14m 30s):
On July 1st, and by by the way, the series was over and I said, I'll agree to be quiet about this for a while because it's not no longer relevant and I don't want like Christian men to be slaughtered in Ukraine because I'm not keeping my mouth shut. Now on July 1st, Macron sends another legal threat on July 18th. This is where things get really interesting. Charlie Kirk host Tucker Carlson at SaaS. This brings in the Tucker element, right? Tucker, he tells Tucker to go, max, call out Israel, Jeffrey Epstein. Just go Max. And guess what Tucker really did go. Max, I wanna actually play for you this clip of what Tucker said on stage, take a listen.

6 (15m 14s):
The unfairness of it drives you crazy and it's particularly galling in the case of Jeffrey Epstein and the whole constellation of people around Jeffrey Epstein, all of whom seem to be getting away with scams. And how do ve now they're getting away with scams. I'll tell you how, because they're useless and they're rich. So how do you come to a place where some of the least impressive, most useless people who have no actual skills become billionaires? How's that legitimate? And by the way, if you ask this question, at least in Washington, it's like, oh, well yeah, it sounds like you're a socialist. Sounds like socialism. Okay, I'm a socialist now. All right? I was a Qatari agent or a bigot, now I'm a socialist.

6 (15m 54s):
All right. Leaving aside my committed socialism, can you answer the question? How do Bill Ackerman get 9 million billion dollars Bill? Bill Ackman a pretty impressive guy. I know Bill Ackman, no, bill Ackman's like well connected and super aggressive. That's it. And I think ve now well connected, super aggressive people deserve a fair living like everybody else. But if you're accruing $9 million just because you're willing to do anything, I don't know why we have to pretend that's good. How did, how did Epstein get for Gulf streams? How did he get an island, a massive ranch in New Mexico, the biggest house in New York? Like what is that like at some point the the basic economics really matter and they matter because not that it's bad, that rich people are getting richer.

6 (16m 40s):
It's bad that everyone else is getting poorer and it's especially bad the young people can't afford home.

1 (16m 49s):
So Tucker is getting to the heart at there is that we don't live in a meritocracy, right? You have people who, because of their bloodlines, are just being handed things right? Barry Weiss is a perfect example of that. Nobody knows why she's an executive at CBS. She has no objective talent. I will guarantee you everyone around her is smarter than her and yet CBS picked Barry Weiss. There's a reason for that. There is a reason why people who are talented can be completely shut out, taken out, told that they can't even be in the system thinking about Kanye West, right? Because of what he's saying. And then people who have no talent are suddenly everywhere. Billboards we're being told this is the most beautiful person, the smartest person.

1 (17m 31s):
This person has what it takes to have a, a makeup brand, whatever it is, and they have no objective talent. That is not something that they would want message to generation Z generation coming up who's recognizing that something's not fair. That perhaps this whole idea that we live in a meritocracy is one big illusion. Anyways, back to our timeline, right? Tucker Carlson says that, and we then have on July 18th that the request from Turning Points UVU chapter, which we've not been able to independently verify, but that's what the local news said that they were, they saw it with their own eyes but we didn't see it.

1 (18m 11s):
That's when the request comes in For Charlie to speak at UVU very late in the day, never happens this way, okay? Like I told you, they are always working at least a semester behind on request. But this one's happening quickly. This is really interesting because BTT then comes in two from Cairo through Paris. It lands in Omaha, Nebraska, and it's the longest stay actually that they have in Wilmington. Okay? They do this, they do this long stay and that's not in Nebraska, that long stay that I'm referring to is happening in Wilmington. They say in Wilmington for six days, okay?

1 (18m 51s):
That happens to be from the 20th to the 26th. That happens to be the period that Brigitte and Emmanuel Macron released to the financial times that they are suing me in a Delaware court, right? Not saying that Procida or Emmanuel are on this plane. What I'm saying is that could it have been a dignitary that was on this plane, a French dignitary that was on this plane? All options are possible at this point because guess who owns the Hanger? A French company. Okay? A French company owns the hanger, so that's interesting. Go back into this timeline and something else happens that's very strange in this constellation right after that, by the way, I wanna show you this so odd, like we were so surprised when we got this, yeah, they depart on the 26th from Wilmington heading back to Cairo.

1 (19m 37s):
They released to the during, in that period of time that they're suing me on July 27th, I'm showing you this private communication between our legal team. We were very confused about why this lawsuit was being filed in Delaware, like not putting anything together. We were, we obviously I didn't know about Satis, nothing. We, this is my lawyer and he says, here's like the PDF, it's massive. We're likely gonna try to file a motion to dismiss to stay the case on the grounds that it's inconvenient to litigate in Delaware because you're in Tennessee, your companies in Delaware did not defame anyone. The witnesses are in Tennessee. The Macron's are not citizens of Delaware. Thus there's no connection to Delaware. Like what act, what? What are we doing in Delaware? We should dismiss in Delaware and say that they have to file where you are.

1 (20m 20s):
Like where they claim that they have been defamed is here in Tennessee. That's so interesting to me in retrospect that we didn't understand why this was happening in Delaware. Anyways, moving on to August 1st, same week, Tucker Carlson releases an episode with me and what goes viral from that episode is that we are discussing the Proje case. Tucker is interested, he's watched the series, he believes that belie Jit Macron was born a man or born a male rather, and that goes viral, okay? It just goes viral, gets more people speaking about it. So you can just say a lot of stuff is happening at this time.

1 (21m 2s):
Then what we have is our, in very early August, we know that that is when Turning Point is beginning to scout this location for their event. The school is telling them, this is not a great place for you to host this because we, there's no traffic control here. Turning point employees insist that it is the best location. Headquarters employees insist that it's the best location. It's Charlie's preferred location and so it's gotta happen from August 5th to the sixth. That's the notorious Hamptons retreat that took place. Charlie himself described it as an intervention and Bill Ackman disputes that narrative that Dylan disputes that narrative BB net and Yahoo offers to take turning point to the next level financially.

1 (21m 47s):
Charlie declines that offer. Okay? We fast forward to the 17th. BBT flies again, it does its Nebraska route. Charlie's speaking on August 23rd. It again goes to through to Wilmington and it stays one night on August 23rd in Wilmington before heading back to RA on September 3rd. Jit Macron is basically opening up, its Paris Design Week and she's photographed with the minister of culture. We have that and then drops off on the fourth.

1 (22m 30s):
We have the BTT flight departing from Paris. Now I'm gonna tell you what's really interesting about that September 3rd date that I, I forgot to mention before we get to summer, summer fourth, president Zelensky is in town also though Bridgette Macron welcomes President Zelensky into Paris on September 3rd because there is this remarkable, and I would assume rare, I don't know, but 35 state leaders meet to discuss Ukraine securing the security of Ukraine, okay? That's what they're there to do. Jit greets him on September 3rd. She also, again like I said, was with the minister of culture and then we have this flight that leaves from Paris, BTT leaves from Paris and it's go time, right?

1 (23m 20s):
This plane is now going to stay for six days and then it's gonna go to Wilmington, Delaware. As you guys know, it's gonna stay in Wilmington, Delaware before departing on September 11th after Charlie Kirk's assassination. I find this now to be very interesting. Okay, very interesting as to whether or not on that Egyptian quote unquote Egyptian plane, there could have been foreigners that are not from Egypt. And I think that's pretty obvious that these people were not from Egypt. Okay? I really don't think this was an Egyptian filled plane. Whether or not they had Egyptian passports or Egyptian names is a whole nother story. But people at the state level print IDs, right?

1 (24m 1s):
Of course, obviously Jeffrey Epstein had a Saudi Arabian, totally different identification, multiple passports and different names. I am very curious about how that timeline is coming together because we were getting very close to something as we had started on September 8th, by the way, our becoming brixit season two. And we were looking at how unusual it was that a dog was barking a bit too loud, ve now a thief that nobody was pursuing was running, and that was us discussing the MK Ultra program and Jit Macron, strangely and Emmanuel mentioning MK Ultra in the lawsuit to us 18 times struck us as odd as we were trying to determine whether or not it could have been Brigitte Macron that was involved in that Stanford experiment, this prisoner 2 0 9 3 that was being protected.

1 (24m 49s):
We didn't know why this prisoner was being protected. We sent somebody there. There seemed to be more, and what really terrifies me is that if my inclination that Xavier PSA's messages have been being read and tracked for longer than I even realized, and that's the reason they initially sent that cease and desist in December, was to ward me off sitting down with Xavier Psar, then what we hadn't yet presented to the audience, but what we were investigating on the backend, if they were aware of that, it, it really makes me wonder if we were on the right track and it was something that would, was so sinister, ve now involving maybe another step of the MK Ultra program being used to foster serial killers and to give serial killers new identities and allowing them to run in countries.

1 (25m 39s):
That was kind of conversations that I was having in the background with Xavier and we thought that we had perhaps identified Bridgette Macron at Stanford University a, a possibility is what I would say. We were maybe at a 50, 50% and then suddenly Charlie Kirk gets assassinated and it totally throws us off of the scent entirely because we're trying to figure out what happened to Charlie. And now strangely trying to figure out what happened to Charlie has brought us back to a France question, right? Why on earth did France move? I mean, who wants to lease a hangar in Wilmington, Delaware for two years to paint planes? Ostensibly we're supposed to believe that this was a maintenance stop, but as the tip proved to us yesterday, that wasn't the case.

1 (26m 24s):
That was a front, because that had not been operative from 2021 all the way forward to, to the end of 2024. So literally that plane was still making stops in Wilmington, Delaware and there was no lease to that. And these were federally controlled waterways where that hangar sit is situated. And we learned that this is a building where there's cooperation between the feds ho homeland security and also contractors, independent contractors, which means people that are not a part of our government's apparatus. So the question becomes who was the foreign dignitary that was escorted on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination to nine 20 King Street?

1 (27m 7s):
Is it plausible that for whatever reason, Charlie allowing Tower Carlson to hit the stage to say that made Charlie a bigger problem than us? I have to tell you guys, in my gut of guts, there is something unbelievably, I just look at Projet Macron and I am telling you, you are looking at an utter psychopath in my view. There is something dark, there is something deep there. I see it in the, in the eyes in the performance of this all that the response in France has been to start to harass people who came out and tried to tell this story to effectively ruin their lives, to go after their finances, to Deb bank them the, the strange circumstances of some people who have tried to touch this story, and we've covered this also in our series, that wound up dead.

1 (28m 3s):
Something is not right and what terrifies me the most by the way, is how far the length that they're going through to protect Bridgette. Who the hell is Bridgette Macron, okay? Because it ain't Bridgette Tru. Now I can tell you that for free, who is this person? Because power is allowing us to see how elusory it all is. They would rather protect brae even though the whole world no longer believes that Brae Macron was born a female, right? But they would rather risk the entire thing coming undone than to just say, okay, maybe we took it too far. Let's get Macron out of office and put somebody else in there that we can control.

1 (28m 44s):
They are taking this way too far. The reality is is that these countries that have so much power and these leaders that have been in place in these systems that have been in place, yeah, and part of it is because of how much money they have and the lengths they will go through to keep things a secret, but the thing that they are forgetting is perception is nine-tenths of the law, right? They have been able to do so much and to conduct so much evil because people around the world actually didn't believe that that evil existed, right? The, the illusion was very important. Now they are violating the illusion and just hoping that money is going to fix this.

1 (29m 25s):
Money's not gonna fix this, okay? Killing people more is actually going to catalyze the understanding that we're all having, that there is something very dangerous and something deep and dark matter is going on. And the themes that were in this Bridgette story are now in this Charlie Kirk story. So many people involved here having a history of child sex abuse, it's just not normal. How many times has this come up in the in, in the Charlie Kirk story, whether you're talking about George Zinn or the person that jumped up and screamed or the pastors the Calvary Chapel that for whatever reason kept getting into these scandals that we went over the other day, that does not to me feel like a coincidence. So are they, are they just so arrogant that they think that money is gonna make this go away?

1 (30m 9s):
You have to do the right thing. You have to make people believe that real justice can be served, okay? And right now we are getting a sense that that is, doesn't even seem to be a plausibility and that things are becoming even more extreme. More money is being spent in trying to get us to invest in a fiction like, I don't know, it just seems like it's all coming undone. And so I wanted to express that to You guys that we should prod that narrative more. We should learn more about that company satis. We should see we are receiving a bunch of tips about that company and we are going to chase down those leads because it's very difficult. Once I put that in a timeline for me to simply ignore the France angle, obviously France would know, they should be able to just help us out.

1 (30m 56s):
I'm sure they should be able to reach out to France and say, Hey, you purchased this hanger. I mean you did a lease. You decided we lease this hanger for two years, very short time to paint some planes. Could you tell us who landed in Wilmington, Delaware and was shuttle over to nine 10 King? I think that would be a, a good start. Anyways, we'll be right back and I'll tell you about Brian Harpo's big lie when we come out of a few sponsors,

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1 (33m 50s):
I gotta tell you guys, by the time we're done with this list of verifiable Turning point lies, it's gonna look like a CVS receipt. VE now what I mean it's, it's just getting longer and longer and these misrepresentations are of course lies. So Brian Harpo obviously sat down with Sean Ryan and he tried to explain how things went wrong and how it wasn't fair and woe is them millions of dollars that we received, but this is actually the fault of UVU Police, right? It's it's actually the fault of this chief Long. Now, I had a lead on this for a few weeks from within turning point USA, many people obviously leaking within the organization, but I wanted something a bit more solid like they were telling me that they knew for certain that the security did some abnormal things that day.

1 (34m 36s):
Personally, unless I am certain as it pertains to turning Point USA, I try not to speak on it, but as it turns out, security people are getting fired or getting moved around at Turning Point and people's families are getting threatened. And so people in the security apparatus are starting to speak and now we are certain, so foremost jog your memory of what he said. What Brian Harpo said to Sean Ryan, he describes a communication that, and he says it in a very odd way. I can tell you right now the reason why he says describes his communication with the chief of the UVU police in an odd way is because it's not his communication.

1 (35m 20s):
He's actually presenting a text message between Dan Flood and Chief Long. Take a listen to how he says it

7 (35m 31s):
On Monday before this correspondence went to Chief Long. Hello Chief Long. We received this message today from the student group. There is a student roof access pretty close to where CK will be set up at the Utah Valley. The Sorenson Center has a couple of staircases that go up to walkways on the roofs. He comes back and the so for edification the, so Sorenson Center was the building in front of the Lucy Center and so he, and he comes back and he says, you want access to the roof? And came back and said, I was told students have access above us.

7 (36m 11s):
If this is true, it would be nice to either have a controlled access or allow one of my guys to be there as well if possible. He comes back and his last correspondence was, I got you covered. What else am I to do when a command level person from an accredited police department says I've got this area. Geez,

1 (36m 51s):
Oh, pick me. So I could confirm to you guys that something else that they could have done would've been to at least walk, walk around UVU when they arrived. They didn't never did a walkthrough. And I can also tell you that this is a severe misrepresentation because the reason why he says Sorenson, and obviously many people picked up on this like Lowy Laws is, is supposedly where the student got up on the roof. So why would Sorenson even matter? Well, apparently, and again, I confirmed this with security inside of Turning Point there somehow happened to be a leak and so they can't dispute this.

1 (37m 33s):
What actually Dan Flood was primarily and only concerned with the flag of Halls, which is behind that was that's what was behind Charlie. So I'm gonna actually show you this, what they're referring to and why he says Renson, I don't know if your mouse can move here. I don't know if you're able to do that. It's okay if you can't, but you can see where up there on the right where it says Sorenson Student Center, well there is a way, as you can see, to get down and get to across, get across to the walkway. And that's what they wanted to secure. They wanted to secure and to make sure that nobody had access above Charlie's head. And that's why he says the walkway, he knew that by the way, obviously he knew the context of that.

1 (38m 15s):
It's very strange that he's reading that off of his phone as if it's on his phone. And he had the communication that's fundamentally dishonest. He should have said this text message happened between Dan Flood and Jeff Long and here's what it was pertaining to. Or he should have showed more, but he couldn't show more. And VE now Sean Ryan got played. He did. And he should be upset that he got played because they're basically using him to just propagandize the situation and pretend that they're somehow the victims. Something else that is very strange that I was told early on and all these leaks were coming is that not only did Turning Point not walk the campus when they got there, I'm, I'm referring to the security, but also the only thing that Dan Flood apparently cared about was making sure that their SUVs had clear access behind Charlie in and Out access.

1 (39m 11s):
So they were not concerned about any other rooftops, they were not concerned about walking to make sure that they had access to other rooftops obviously, or to make sure that they could see what points it was that the chil, the people could just walk onto the courtyard. They weren't gonna know any of that. All they cared about for whatever reason was the flag of Halls controlled access and the flag of halls. And I'm wondering if that reason is because this is really interesting, but I told you it's kind of strange that there were only two videos of people really that saw the alleged shooter on the roof that sprinted off of Losie.

1 (39m 54s):
I found that to be quite strange. There were a lot of people there that day. There a lot of action that was caught. There wasn't even any more testimonies that came out. And when we hunted down the origin of those videos, I found it strange that those students who shot it didn't post it themselves. They went through third party people, third, fourth party people, one person, both of them jumped through multiple hoops to get that video out. And when we tracked those people down, both of those students or non-students were in the military, right? ROTC. It found out to be very interesting and compelling and I am wanting to know more about what was happening in that Hall of Flags.

1 (40m 36s):
Something is off here. There seemed to be a, a lot of buzz about the Hall of Flags. Even that Indian kid that we had showed you was taking that shot. Who? Who said like, oh, I didn't know Charlie, but he was really popular, was posting all of these videos and somehow gave his videos to the news. He was in the flag of Halls or the Hall of flags, pardon me. I think more needs to be known about what was going down in the Hall of Flags and I intend to find out what that was. But Turning Points Security completely dropped the ball and they knew they dropped the ball and yet they then tried to pass that off by misrepresenting text messages.

1 (41m 18s):
Why? Why is he protecting Dan Flood? Why isn't Dan Flood speaking? Has Dan Flood been fired from Turning Point USA? Was this actually just a propaganda, a propagandist mission to sit down with Sean Ryan and to lie and misrepresent everybody's instincts? Were correct about that interview. We are still being told lies by turning point. Now beyond that, this is crazy. This broke in Utah. So the story goes, and I told you that the story was bs, but what the feds told us was that ve now grandpa's gun was missing and then a friend called and the ve now the dad, the dad, Tyler Robinson's dad recognized his own son and then turned his son in.

1 (42m 1s):
And I told you that was a lie. That's not how things went down. And I was called a liar and no one believed that I had sources. Well now mysteriously Ty, the footage of Tyler Robinson turning himself in, which should in theory show his dad and him walking in, his dad turned him in. Remember that storyline? Well, it doesn't seem like we're ever going to be able to get that footage because it's now missing. Question mark. Take a listen. Listen to KU TV News investigating.

9 (42m 33s):
On September 17th, 2025, Washington County Sheriff Nate Brooksby held a press conference.

10 (42m 38s):
Our job was not to interview. Our job was just to get him here.

9 (42m 41s):
After Charlie Kirk's alleged shooter was taken into custody in Washington County less than two days after the shooting. Within

10 (42m 47s):
The hour my friend drove Tyler and his parents to my office where he was greeted by plainclothes detectives.

9 (42m 56s):
After learning of this, I submitted a public records request to obtain any video of Tyler Robinson walking into the jail facility. Washington County responded saying there were no records responsive to the request. As Robinson did not go to the jail area, our request for any holding room video was denied. A few weeks later, I re-upped the request on a more generalized scale for surveillance video showing Tyler Robinson walking into the sheriff's office

11 (43m 22s):
For the state of Utah. We would certainly hope that this video is available.

9 (43m 26s):
The response, our office does not have any applicable records responsive to this request as the surveillance footage is no longer available after the 30 day retention period if

11 (43m 36s):
In fact it has been destroyed and not preserved. It's very concerning and if it has, then it's very concerning that they're telling you they don't have it. If they no longer have it, I would've expected to say that this this video has been provided to you, the Utah County law enforcement, please contact them. But instead, this redder leads in my opinion, as trying to shut the door and not give you free access to the press. While

9 (43m 60s):
It's not clear if the video exists and was just handed over to another agency in a response to me, Washington County shared with me they don't believe the video was shared with anyone involved in the case

11 (44m 11s):
Wanting to get videos showing that he turned himself in and and the manner he did so would be crucial for the defense work of mitigation.

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1 (44m 50s):
I don't know guys, just, we just can't get one verifiable piece of evidence that Tyler Robinson even exists, right? Does he even exist? I think it's a fair question. Is he just an AI app? Is does Tyler Robinson even exists at this point? Feels like a fair question because we just can't, we can't get one clear image and now which good on them for realizing, oh wait, actually we can put in a gamma request and figure out whether like we can just watch him turn himself in. That's a big part of the story. Heroic dad marches his daddy, marches his son in and says, here he is. And I told you that was all crap. So what actually happened? What actually happened?

1 (45m 34s):
He also can't appear in person. He's appearing electronically, doesn't have to put his video on for court hearings. What is going on? How dare they call anything that we are covering? A conspiracy theory. The conspiracy theory. I tell you what it is right now. I don't want you guys to be conspiracy theorists. The conspiracy theory is that Tyler Robinson who did not attend UVU, had never been on UVU campus, packed up his car that day, jumped onto a rooftop, figured out how to like jump around like Spider-Man and just knew exactly where Charlie Kirk would be seated just by having never been there. Took a shot, one shot with 30 odd six that got stopped because Charlie eats spinach and he then he swallowed it actually 'cause it it, it actually ricocheted down into his stomach.

1 (46m 19s):
He then makes a hasty retreat into a Dairy Queen where he texts every minute of what he did to his lover and then despite going home to his lover, he decides the next day to still text his lover more about his dad. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, he's home but they're still texting more because like that's how what you should do as opposed to just talking to him face to face and he wanted to get away with it and he expresses that, but at the same time, despite the fact that he's got like a 4.3 GPA and he's like a boy genius, he de decides to write every minute of the crime he had just committed to his love. That's actually the conspiracy theory, like that's the tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. I don't want you guys to believe that.

1 (46m 59s):
That's crazy. That is totally crazy stuff. Anyways, we'll be right back and respond to some of your questions and comments.

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1 (49m 27s):
By the way, tomorrow book Club will be at 6:00 PM Eastern because today is my son's birthday and I did not calculate that when I said to bump it to Thursday. So it'll be tomorrow and we will continue reading Sigmund Freud and the Jewish mystical tradition. Okay, top comment from yesterday, Angela wrote to all those working in government that still have morals and are willing to leak information involving corruption. God bless you. Thank you for helping us get justice and not tormenting us. Carl writes, Candace, thanks for what you are doing to expose all this evil. What can we do besides watching your show, buying your book, et cetera. Christ is king. Thanks. Well take that to mean what it is, which is that truth will win, truth will prevail.

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Truth is king, and I am telling you guys that it's not enough to just know the truth. You have to speak it speaking the truth. I just know that that is significant. It is more powerful. It's almost like the frequency of a of, of a truth hits hits more powerfully than a lie. And they have rendered so many people silent out of fear. That's why they do this stuff. Speak the truth, share the truth. That's the little part that you can do every single day. Rodent mama writes, my fingers are tired from pushing back on quote unquote Christians on ex calling you sinister. I said, he is paid or he is not listening. He used me to claim that you train cult lines. That's interesting.

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They're not watching you or they are sinister proud member of a not so secret Candace cult. Yeah, if I'm culting, I'm doing it wrong. I'm telling you to trust your gut and your intuition about things and you should. And you're seeing that it is, like I said, very strange. It's so many Christians are now trying to tell us that it's not biblical to pursue truth. Right? Of course, you have to ask questions to pursue truth, to get to the truth. You cannot just accept blanket narratives from people who are not authorities like I mean like who, who are just deeming themselves authorities and saying, well listen to me. I I guess we should just listen to K Patel because he's Cash Patel. I don't, that's ridiculous. Obviously if you choose to trust, you should also verify.

1 (51m 29s):
And they are now trying to tell you that that process of verification is SA Satanic, which couldn't be further from the truth. M Pli Che writes A gang of demented this, he's quoting me here, A gang of demented psychopaths rule over us and their solution to being caught to doing psychopathic things is to murder us. I had to rewind that last episode. Canister investigation is uncovering so much that would never receive a light of day. Stay safe. Yeah, I think there was something about the Charlie Kirk assassination that made a lot of us want to be brave because Charlie was about as safe socks as it gets ve now. He really was and they assassinated him anyways. So how?

1 (52m 9s):
How can we feel safe? How can everybody at home feel safe if Charlie who always tried to make it work was always everybody's friend was somehow assassinated in broad daylight and his friends are lying about it? I don't know. That doesn't feel good. I don't feel safe at all. Certainly being quiet isn't gonna make anybody safe, which is why we have been sharing everything as a a, a form of insurance is just the information that we have. We share across with so many other people and we've empowered other people to know what's going on behind the scenes too. VB VC writes, just know that Ron Paul has used his platform to speak about it. His French Charlie Kirk questioning the official narrative.

1 (52m 49s):
And if dark forces are responsible on nine 16 2025, no one is as loud as you, but Ron is a real one too. I think you mean nine 10. He don't. No, no. But he has always known. Yeah, he's another person that I should probably get some stuff out to send him ano another insurance package as I'm now terming it so they know everything that's going on behind the scenes and threats that are being received because that's what it's gonna take. We have to decentralize intelligence. A DVE writes, thank you for not giving up and showing no mercy to the elite. We support you. Thank you guys. Ms. Mint Juleps writes you plus your unseen squad equals fire and you are appreciated. The FBI has no integrity. Ve now, that's why they never tried to recruit you. If I had a niece like you, I'd be crazy proud.

1 (53m 31s):
Thank you so much for saying that and no, I, I've never been recruited by the government and I feel really dumb for thinking that things could be resolved in government. Like I said, if there is to, if there was any silver lining in the Charlie Kirk assassination is that I think it taught all of us a lesson about our faith that we could somehow fix it in this system. All of it's happening at once. The Epstein files, the sort of collapse of Hollywood, the stories that we are learning and watching the Elise protect Jeffrey Epstein, his victims speaking out and saying, president's Republican and Democrat and all of them works to cover this lets us know that we gotta stop pointing fingers at one another.

1 (54m 11s):
Elizabeth Jones writes, do you think Charlie Kirk's assassination could be a message to Trump or cash to stay in line? I'm gonna say definitely. Maybe Trump almost got assassinated. We don't know what happens behind closed doors and he could be fearful of that. I would hope that we elect leaders that are braver than that, but he could definitively obviously be fearful cash. That's just corruption. I mean, he's like, I, once I saw the article, he was blocking Tulsi s office. I lost all faith in cash and I think he's a part of the corruption. Plain and simple black fatigue writes Candace, and for those who are curious, go on Google and type in 30 odd six damage, then click on the images and now ask yourself if you think that Charlie Kirk was shot with a 30 odd six, you were discretion advised.

1 (54m 54s):
Yes. Somebody who recently got shot extensively by a 30 odd six on a hunting trip sent me a photo to our tips box and it was shocking. I mean, absolutely shocking. He described the damage that was done and just said, in case you wanna share with your viewers in case they actually think that Charlie's neck somehow stopped this, and I am declining to share that, but I think we can confirm that there was no miracle bending bullet from the Lossy Center, a smaller weapon was used. Crazy. Chris writes, love the comfort Church. Feels like I'm chilling with my sister. Love you. Thank you so much. I did decide to go a little chill today. Renee writes, I wonder if our president's plane ever landed there in Delaware where we know that Biden was living in Delaware.

1 (55m 37s):
He lives in Delaware. He's from Delaware. But I, I have, I I do not think that Trump would've been described as a dignitary. Certainly would not have been described as a dignitary. That would be a different classification. We were kind of looking through that. What classify someone as a dignitary, a foreign dignitary. Certainly a first lady or a first man of a country would be classified that way. There are other categories as well. Mark, you were looking it up. Do you have that answer for me? I, I, I mean, know I'm asking you kind of off the cuff, but you were looking this up. What classify somebody as a dignitary do ve now it's,

15 (56m 9s):
It's pretty wide ranging, so it could be any, pretty much anyone in the government who is close to the top or an aide or an executive aide, even down to religious leaders. It's a very broad term.

1 (56m 22s):
Interesting. Okay. So yes, and we are wondering who that foreign dignitary was and maybe we will now find out. You guys, if you have any tips, obviously email us more tips at Candace Owens dot com. And other than that, we will see you tomorrow.

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11/19/25
Charlie Kirk And The Crossing Of The Delaware | Candace Ep 268


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2 (31s):
All right you guys. So we received a couple of weeks ago a very thorough tip regarding Charlie's assassination and the Egyptian planes. Now, what is even more compelling about this tip is that this individual who works with or for government sent it before I had figured out that the Egyptian planes were tracking Erica and Charlie. Now the individual also focused on something that first seems to me to be very micro to the situation And now it seems quite macro and it's an answer perhaps to the question, what was the Egyptian military plane which left Provo on the morning of Charlie's assassination doing in Delaware?

2 (1m 15s):
Actually we should figure that out. Welcome back to Candace. There are so many elements of this story that as time goes on, are clicking into place things that initially maybe we don't consider that you go, oh wait a second. Why didn't I consider that right off the jump? Right. I was of course very surprised by the two Egyptian military aircraft that in general just why were they here?

2 (1m 55s):
Why were they there at all? And not even for one second, did I stop and think, is this even a routine flight path at all? Like why would these jets ostensibly filled with government level Egyptians, right? Particularly the yellow jet tail number S-U-B-T-T, which kept overlaying sometimes even for days in Delaware. Why would, why would they do that? Why would that plane be doing that? Let's pull up that timeline again that I put together of you guys of the blue jet and the yellow jet and we virtually in all the stops, you can just scroll through this like we kept noticing that that yellow plane was going through Paris.

2 (2m 39s):
It was going to Wichita, but very often it was stopping in Wilmington. Like what goes on in Wilmington, Delaware. Actually, if you fly private, even if you fly public, it's not exactly a hub. People aren't like, let me route through Wilmington to go overseas. It's not a thing. The person who emailed me acclaim to be a solid source of what that flight was doing. And he claimed or she claimed that he or she was so solid that they challenged me to find other people in government, people that were working in federal agencies and people that work at the State Department to confirm what he had said.

2 (3m 24s):
And I did. People that I trusted, I went to, spoke with them, waited a while, that's why this email came in weeks ago, but we're just telling you about it now. And they confirmed that what this individual was saying was true and that's why I am presenting it today. Despite the fact that the person who sent this email was clear of this information is quite dangerous. Now, to remind you guys so that you are understanding what we are working through here with a lot of information that is known to virtually none of us on the morning of Charlie's assassination, the plane that had initially carried over the 12 or 14 quote unquote Egyptians six days earlier, that plane departed.

2 (4m 4s):
The yellow plane departed on the morning at 7:14 AM local time from Provo, Utah and it headed to Wilmington, Delaware. Okay? It arrived in Wi Wilmington, Delaware at 11:51 AM Eastern. So that's at around 9:51 AM Utah time. Okay, Charlie's gonna get shot at 1223. This plant plane has landed into Wilmington at what would be 9:51 AM So about two and a half hours before Charlie is shot. And then for whatever reason these Egyptians decided we stay in Wilmington, Delaware for a night until the following day.

2 (4m 47s):
I don't know where did they sleep, where did they go again? What goes on in Wilmington, Delaware because they departed September 11th at 7:56 AM That means that we can definitive definitively rule out that this was just a fuel stop, right? Nobody's like, let me fuel up my private military jet and sleep on the plane. So there was something in Wilmington that held the interest of our Middle Eastern people that are here for some reason. Well, like I said, someone emailed us and we took our time vetting this tip because it seemed plausible, right?

2 (5m 28s):
It seemed plausible to us that you guys are thinking maybe this was meant to distract us, take, we're gonna run down this rabbit hole and no, that's not the case. We've veted it across multiple government agencies and to really the highest levels of government. So this is legit. I'm, I've printed it out and I'm going to read around some parts, removing some parts to provide this individual who, by the way, I have no who this is, but to give him and her even some more coverage, even though they said that they were very thorough in making sure it wouldn't get back to them, but you never know they're taking a tremendous risk. So I'm just going to read this to you guys and I'm gonna read it slow for comprehension 'cause I had to read it slow myself for comprehension.

2 (6m 11s):
It starts out with Candace. I'm aware that you suspect the government and other entities are involved in the events leading up to and on September 10th. I'm aware that you also tied the plane S-U-B-T-T yellow plane to this and that you are receiving tips. You might have been wondering why S-U-B-T-T made so many visits to Wilmington, Delaware out of all places. And I can personally answer that. What I can say about myself is blank, blank, blank. I'm not gonna read that. I'm not gonna read that. I'm not gonna read that. Some people may tell you that S-U-B-T-T stopped at Wilmington because it was quote unquote just maintenance.

2 (6m 51s):
That is not true. The information I'm giving you will implicate the FBI and various other government agencies all at the same time. I'm passing this to you because you are honest enough to see this for what it is. You may put this in your notes and reveal this pattern publicly with this. And then he talks about why this information is dangerous. So I'm going to skip and get to the information portion. The information portion reads this as ve. Now on September 10th, an Egyptian government de, so Falcon seven x tail number S-U-B-T-T came into Wilmington, Delaware. I tried to pull non-public movement data and it came up empty for me.

2 (7m 33s):
This means that the arrival was processed under a diplomatic and dignitary category, which would not show up in the usual places. That in and of itself wouldn't be odd if we were talking about Andrews or Dulles airports. It's odd at Wilmington, you can't verify this next piece directly, but I can independently, I can confirm that blank uses vehicles which often leave and enter that airport when they do covert handoffs. Now, I have no affiliation with S-U-B-T-T, nor am I an operator anywhere near Egypt or its planes. But I do know that only federal vehicles are allowed to access, are allowed access to private gates, housing, government, government planes.

2 (8m 21s):
Because of this, I can guarantee you that the vehicles affiliated with this workspace arrived and left inside the same window as S-U-B-T-T. Government vehicles either pick up monitor or escort every government plane that lands there. So that's the standard. It's every single one. Feds don't just leave foreign government planes unwatched. It's a government plane, not a ghost plane. Someone has to come out and we all know they're not gonna just call an Uber. Given that I know most of the locations at these vehicles visits, I am entirely confident in stating that the plane and those vehicles are connected to nine 20 North King Street, which is at a place that is marketed also as one Rodney Square.

2 (9m 10s):
Nearly every federal vehicle that visits the airport will pass through King Street at least once because that is where the majority of the vehicles are ultimately stationed. We do this because it is discreet. The reason people don't know about this is because assets can be transferred to cars without diplomatic plates. You can't just do transfers with diplomatic plates out in the open or it would immediately tie assets to government. That's why the fleet is either federal, unmarked or local. So when I say government vehicles, what I'm really saying is they most likely immediately swapped the plates for local, but they still had federal clearance.

2 (9m 51s):
I'm gonna skip this because I think this could be. The whole idea is they get in, they have a meeting, they get out, the plates are then changed back and they go back to a designated area. However, sometimes it is decided that they need to have a meeting in a more convenient spot, a meaning that's not in a car. That is what I am telling you happened with S-U-B-T-T. Obviously it would be impossible for me to show you the evidence of these activities because I obviously can't do that. I obviously can't pull dash cam or cameras, but I'm telling you that this is known among insiders and if you want confirmation, you can ask Intel insiders of yours and they they'll confirm that that is exactly what happened.

2 (10m 39s):
You may ask why this happened in the first place and I'll give you my best information and here is where it gets big. In June of 1997, the Department of Justice's own directory lists Wilmington Resident Office one Rodney Square, suite 4 0 4 9 20 King Street, Wilmington, Delaware 1 9 8 0 1. That is your line to know that it is a federal resident office that is at that exact address. You can open it yourself in this link and look for a page titled 6 7 5. Okay, we did that. We confirmed that Wilmington Resident Office Suite 4 0 4 1 Rodney Square.

2 (11m 21s):
And so we can confirm this is like he says or she says the Department of Justice's own directory list. Okay? Today, if you punch that address into public directories, you will find the DEA drug enforcement agency at nine 20 North King Street and at the same address the United States Secret Service nine 20 North King Street, Wilmington, Delaware, 1 9 8 0 1. Both are live. Both are at Suite four zero four. Both also publish phone numbers. In the Secret Service case, the agency's own 2025 field office list still shows Wilmington, Delaware.

2 (12m 1s):
That means the suites that the Department of Justice owned in the nineties never actually went away. This eventually evolved into a multi-agency space in a commercial building. The building looks like if you decided we cut the 33 Thomas Street building in half. Seriously, if you Google image 33 Thomas Street in New York City, that's the building that snowed and leaked. Find one that makes it look brown and then compare it to nine 20 North King Street in Wilmington. It looks exactly like a mini version of the thing. The only difference is that nine 20 North King has glass windows. Now you saw people on X saying that S-U-B-T-T has an alibi because it quote unquote aligns with a long standing Falcon maintenance arrangement out of Wilmington.

2 (12m 50s):
That dates back to 1999. You remember that guys? They told us, oh, they were just doing maintenance. This is maintenance here. Maintenance there, scheduled maintenance. That's the part that really sent me because I know that's the part that really sets me off because I know that you are right about the plane. And I also know the truth about this plane. Yes, Wilmington used to have a Desalt Falcon authorized center, but it shut down around 2021 then, and this is verifiable in December of 2024, a French aircraft finishing company called sas, S-A-T-Y-S, announced that it was taking over the shuttered Wilmington airport hangar and every Delaware outlet said the same thing, SAS will invest a little over $1 million and get this.

2 (13m 42s):
So you see that we're pulling that up. We have confirmed that that is true. This is a French company that said they were gonna take over this hangar in Wilmington, the Delaware River and Bay Authority is the one that is making that deal. DRBA is a by state authority, except the key part is that it operates on federally regulated airways. Water waste, pardon its own January, 2024 resolution says that it was quote, acquiring the rights to a paint hanger, currently part of an assault leasehold and authorizing the executive director and board chair to execute that lease with status.

2 (14m 23s):
So that is a River Bay Authority, the DRBA that is executing an aviation lease on a field that sits on a navigable corridor that automatically puts it in the orbit of the federal system. The chain here that would report from the people who control the rivers would be DRBA to the Army Corps of Engineers, the Secretary of the Army, and the Secretary of Defense to the President. So now you can say with complete honesty that the federal government was aware of and signed off on the plane and hanger situation. Now, I'm not claiming a direct line of authority for that. I'm saying that anyone who tells you that the influence is not there is either misinformed or lying.

2 (15m 6s):
I'm also not saying that POTUS himself did this, but the government was undeniably involved with that hangar and the plane that you are eyeing. Not to mention, representative McBride is the statewide rep for that place. Again, I'm not saying that McBride has anything to do with this because I wouldn't know that, but it is noteworthy. What you can honestly say though is this. If S-U-B-T-T has been doing this run for decades, it could not have been using a 2024 French finishing lease as its maintenance justification. In fact, your own timeline shows how they traveled to France before the deal was even made. It proves that the maintenance story is nothing but a cover.

2 (15m 48s):
That hanger is undeniably either another site in of itself or it is a front for something else. Back to nine 20 King, nine 20 North King Street. When you Google FBI, Wilmington Resident Agency, you should check the address in the Google Info panel. You will likely get nine 20 North King Street with the label Federal Bureau of Investigation instead of the public FBI address. That's at 500 Delaware Avenue Suite 300, which is just a bank tower. You can confirm that 500 Delaware Ave is the borough's public facing spot. But Google will tell you that nine 20 North King Street is also the FBI.

2 (16m 29s):
That is not a mistake. The FBI is also stationed at nine 20 North King Street. They list it straight in the DOJs nineties directory. Further, the Secret Service is not a part of the Department of Justice. They are the Department of Homeland Security. So this actually seems to be a joint D-O-J-D-H-S site, which verifiably houses three different agencies and possibly more all at the same time. I've looked for a while and to this day I don't see any other location that does that. I guarantee you've never personally heard of a federal site operating like that either.

2 (17m 9s):
No matter what anybody tells you, if they say they lease like that all the time, that is not a justification. Multiple agents of multiple different agencies in one suite is not common or typical in the slightest. A joint office is common, but there's a line to draw between a joint office and at least three different agencies alongside contractors all operating in one place. Also, take a look at the borough's own press release from December 5th, 2024. Christopher W. Ray quote, met with key partners and stressed how critical FBI partnerships are to protecting our communities. They chose to mention partners. They didn't say that he met with agents that were assigned in Wilmington.

2 (17m 52s):
They foregrounded partnerships. That's the vocabulary that they use when the space is not purely FBI. And it lines up with what is actually happening at nine 20 North King Street, which is the FBI, the DEA and the US ss the United States Secret Service and others are working together in a commercial tower. Here is the link for that press release. In that link, Ray confirms that the place house's private partners as as well. He says, quote, if you step back and look at how much closer our partnerships are now and they were five or 10 years ago, it's a defining trend I think, of significance of this positive transformation.

2 (18m 33s):
We have an entire generation of law enforcement and the private sector working together trying to figure out how to help each other and to have each other's backs. Yeah, to have each other's backs. So let's recap these facts. On September 10th, an Egyptian government aircraft with a history of flying to France and the United States lands at a small Delaware airport under a French company maintenance pretext that doesn't actually match the hangar timeline because the French visit predates the French company's deal. Within an hour, federal SUVs move from that airport to nine 20.

2 (19m 15s):
North King Street, nine 20 North King Street has been a federal residence's office since at least 1997. And today it houses the DEA, the FBI and the United States Secret Service all at the same address. The hangar the plane would have used is controlled through A-D-R-B-A lease. That itself is nested in federal waterway in federal water waste. The FBI also publicly talks about key partners in Wilmington on the same year at the hangar Reactivates. I'm gonna skip this next portion 'cause he tells me how I can verify this. And like I said, I did that once more. Go through this logic and ask yourself how this makes any sense.

2 (19m 56s):
On November 13th, 2022 S-U-B-T-T flies from Cairo to Paris to Wichita, Kansas to Wilmington, Delaware, back to Cairo. That is already a four leg, two consonant hop that ends in Wilmington before going home. Four days later on November 17th, 2022, it does Egypt to Wilmington again, departing at 8:54 AM and this time it stays in Wilmington until November 20th and only then returns to Cairo. So that is two Wilmington arrivals in the same week. Nobody burns a government.

2 (20m 37s):
Falcon seven x on two separate Wilmington runs for no reason. I mean, just look at the choice of St. Louis, St. Louis, Wichita, Omaha, Lincoln, Williston, Minot and Provo. None of these are standard diplomatic hubs. Most of those don't even have major consulates and absolutely none of them are known for large scale Egyptian presence. So that immediately undermines the whole, it's just a maintenance stop. Excuse. Ask yourself why else the state aircraft would hop scotch across America to remote cities if its purpose was just servicing at a defunct wi Assault center. Wilmington is undeniably a terminal point and the only logical reason points to nine 20 North King Street.

2 (21m 18s):
I could go through all of the dates and do this, but you already mapped the flights so you already understand exactly what I'm saying. Obviously I can't tell you how I know this or who I am or exactly who it is that I work for. My motive is simply that I can no longer keep this stuff in my head anymore. I just need somebody with a history of doing the right thing and figuring out the entire truth. I hope you can understand why I cannot verify my employment here. I took a big risk to tell the truth and my hope is that you will at least check me on it. Analyze and verify the flight patterns.

2 (21m 60s):
So I think we know why cash patella is out, right? I mean, I read this, checked it, verified it, and I just wanna know why. Charlie, I want to know why the decision was made to murder Charlie Kirk. A decision that very clearly had to be approved by Charlie's friends. That's all I have. I wanna know, I wanna know why. I think we deserve to know why. And instead we're gonna be sued. I guess. Is this gonna be the pathway forward? Are you gonna start murdering more people in broad daylight for knowing?

2 (22m 40s):
Is that our consequence? Is that like the slave consequence? Is that like ve now catching a slave and cutting off their limbs for knowing that you're evil? For finding out? For us, understanding what we have known from the moment that we saw Charlie die and people started peddling out excuses after Excuse why we weren't allowed to look into this. I think all we wanna know is why we wanna know what that slave did wrong. I think that's fair. I think we just want nobody did wrong. Okay. Because that email that checks out, yeah. Secret service, the FBI, the DEA being involved.

2 (23m 23s):
Why this plane, the quote unquote Egyptian plane landed into Wilmington that checks out. So I guess to our government, what's the next move like? You're just, are we just gonna keep spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to see how much money can be spent on a psychological operation to convince people not to believe their own eyes and to convince people to accept the Fed slap. To convince people that Charlie ate 3000 pounds of energy coming at him. Can we know why? We just wanna know what he did.

2 (24m 3s):
I wanna know what Charlie did. I I think about this. It is like, what did Charlie find out? Charlie found something out. That's it guys. Charlie found something out and it cost him his life. That's the truth. Okay. Charlie knew something and whatever it is, it is big and it is ugly and deep doubt. I think we know what it is. I think we all kind of know what it is. I don't even know what to say. I don't even know what to say beyond the fact that we are being ruled by sadistic criminals.

2 (24m 44s):
All of us. The whole world, every nation. Okay, A gang of demented psychopaths rule over us and their solution to being caught doing psychopathic things is to murder us. To murder us. So we'll take a a quick break and come back.

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2 (27m 39s):
So I'm gonna go ahead and take his advice and analyze and verify the flight patterns and I'd I'd like to draw your attention to, there's just something in the back of my mind that I haven't shared yet that is bothering me about the flights on that day that scrambled to get to Charlie after he was shot. And I'm gonna call these our green planes. Green means go. These are the planes. And I've already mentioned to you guys this first one that we ended up discovering was related to, can you pull up this? Thanks. The Cessna citation that holds seven to eight passengers, that's the one that departed from Scottsdale at 8:00 AM landed into Provo at 10:06 AM and then it immediately departed for Santa Barbara.

2 (28m 26s):
Landed into Santa Barbara and immediately departed for Scottsdale landing into Scottsdale at 12:44 PM So just after Charlie got shot, 'cause that's Scottsdale time. I am curious about who was on that plane 'cause we can attach that to Turning Point USA. Turning point. USA is featured on TW Lewis's Foundation website. They're partners, they have given a turning point USA and that flight feels very important to me. The next flight is a beachcraft that departed Scottsdale at 12:27 PM local. And that holds about, that's a, that's a smaller plane, about six seats.

2 (29m 10s):
The next flight is the 15 to 16 passenger flight. That's a big one. That was Charlie's plane that day. First took him to Salt Lake City for the Autology interview that he did his last interview. And then after he gets shot, which makes sense it somebody sent it directly. I'm assuming this might have been what Mikey McCoy coordinated sent it straight to Scottsdale and I would like to know who specifically got onto this plane and then they land into Provo at 3:31 PM The last plane that we have here is one that departed Santa Barbara at 2:19 PM local.

2 (29m 50s):
That's actually quite late. I'm gonna draw your attention to that. That's a smaller airplane and it's quite late 'cause that's gonna be 3:19 PM Utah time. So that's three hours after Charlie got shot. That person is just leaving Santa Barbara. Passengers don't know. Here are the passengers that we know came from Arizona and potentially Santa Barbara, Andrew Cove, Andrew vet's wife. We have a priest. We have Stacy Sheridan who's the chief finance person. We have, I mean the fundraiser over there, the, we have Elizabeth McCoy, Mikey McCoy, iss, the amazing Mike McCoy's wife.

2 (30m 30s):
We have Tyler Boyer and we have Erica Kirk. This, there could be more people. We need to focus here. There's a, there's a fact that's not connecting for me when I look at this, a fact that I have about how things were running that day. And so if you have information, maybe you're at turning point USA at who left at what time? Turning Point headquarters. I, Elizabeth McCoy screamed, she grabbed her phone, she ran out. Mikey probably called her. That would make sense. And that's about 30 minutes away from the airport. If you have information inside of Turning Point USA headquarters as to who you heard or maybe you're, you watched an interview, there were tons of interviews everybody was doing in the days following that were a part of the turning point.

2 (31m 13s):
USA apparatus speaking about where they were, what time they got the call. Please send that at more tips at Candace Owens dot com. Now our list of Turning point lies is just getting longer every day. Yesterday we talked about Brian Harpo, the security guy who was not convincing at all. And he basically said we didn't have drones because looking at the rooftops, because I wasn't allowed to have drones, right? We just were not allowed to have drones that day. A lot of people, a lot of you emailed us and said that was a lie. Actually, again, going back to the early interviews that a lot of T-P-U-S-A-P people gave Frank Turik who was with Charlie on the David, he died with Charlie in the hospital and carried Charlie into the waiting SUV.

2 (32m 1s):
He told me, Kelly, something different about drones on that day. Take a listen.

5 (32m 6s):
And in fact, when we were driving into that event, this is the first event I've gone to a college campus with Charlie. He, he said, Frank, if you can come help me the, the first couple of days, could you stay an extra day and come with me to the first event? I said, of course. So we're driving in, Megan and his team has drones up looking at the crowd from above and they, they text him some video and there's thousands of people there an hour before the the start. And I said, Charlie, I don't like this place. There's too many buildings. And but he shrugged it off. He knew there were thousands of people there and he knew in order to minister to people, you can't completely isolate yourself.

5 (32m 47s):
It's just like, love you, you, you can't keep your heart in a box, you gotta give it away.

2 (32m 56s):
His team had drones. They were texting him footage when he was in the car. So Brian Harpo lied. You see I used to lay in my grandma's bed and watch Judge Judy with my grandma growing up. And a lot of it actually, my grandma had a bad hip. So she sometimes had surgeries and we, we'd watch Judge Judy. And I remember in my brain, maybe Judge Judy made me like this, I don't know. But she used to say, if you lie, you better have a good memory. That's the problem with lies. You gotta have a real good memory to lie when you're telling the truth. You don't have to have a good memory 'cause it just happens. So you just say it. And turning Point is not having a very good memory right now. And it's hard because they did so much speaking in the aftermath that they can't go back and delete files.

2 (33m 38s):
And so we can add that to our list now of verifiable Turning Point lies. This list is, by the way, we're, we're on two pages. Here's a second page. It's getting long and I'm wondering why any lies are being told, right? Brian did this interview months later and they still don't have their ducks in a row. By the way, elsewhere in that interview with Brian Harpo, the security guy with Sean Ryan, he reiterates, he doubles down on the idea that Charlie ate 3000 pounds of energy coming at him, take a listen.

6 (34m 15s):
So the bullet came in and hit the vertebra and it, so it came in and then tore up everything in the wound cavity, hit the vertebra, crushed it, shattered it turned crushed. The second one turned, kept going down all the way. I think they said C six. Holy shit. Yeah. It's like why not put that info out? Why not put it out? And then why wouldn't they put that out Then it it, if it do me a favor, don't make me do it. It's not my job. And so then it got to here and you're exactly right and then hit I think six and then fracked.

6 (34m 56s):
And so explanation 1 0 1, what are you hiding? Yeah, it's like I'm sitting back here when people are saying we bombed him or there's a wound. I'm like, hey, somebody would, from an official capacity would just release that. And I don't see how that could jeopardize a fair trial for a guy.

2 (35m 16s):
So to be clear, the only person that can actually release his autopsy report is Erica next of Kin. That's given to the next of kin. That's like the Utah state policy. If he's suggesting that the feds are blocking her from doing that, I mean he's in, in in that statement, why not just release it? They could, they couldn't theory just release it and yeah, it's not gonna jeopardize anything. The reason they're sending you out to do it is because they don't wanna be caught lying themselves. The feds have told a ton of lies. That's the problem. And they don't wanna add to it. So it's easier to sit on a security person and say, oh we never said that. He said that if what he is saying is true, Charlie wasn't shot by a 30 odd six, which we've been telling you from the beginning.

2 (35m 57s):
Okay, we've been telling you Charlie was not shot by a 30 odd six, he was not that damaged. I told you this, I've confirmed this. Okay. And so you are left to believe that this really was a modern day miracle. And he, that that bullet came out from 150 yards, 3000 pounds of energy and it just pinged off the back of his neck and went down into his stomach. Or Charlie was shot with a smaller weapon. Okay? A smaller caliber either or you get to decided we get to decide whether salad can do that. You get to decide whether you're accepting the Popeye, the Sailor man narrative and he ate spinach.

2 (36m 41s):
And then the next thing ve now everything was great and he was strong. You decide they think you're stupid. They think we're all stupid. Obviously this is a conspiracy, okay? It is a conspiracy. And I was so happy to hear Joe Rogan spell out and acknowledge that not only are conspiracies real, but they're actually common. Okay? He sat down with comedian Theo Vaughn and they discussed just that thing. Take a listen.

7 (37m 7s):
What makes me nervous is the people that are not aware that all of our assumptions of how the government works, were all based on bull. The people that still believe that are like true believers of one side or the other, true faith in government and experts. Those people make me more nervous. 'cause some of 'em are smart. That's what's crazy when smart people are completely unwilling to recognize that conspiracies are not just real, but they're also not rare. They're they're very common. They're common and people get away with them. Yeah. Especially when they're in positions of extreme power, like running intelligence agencies.

7 (37m 49s):
Like they, and there's a lot of things that they do that are morally reprehensible but totally legal. Like they could do it because they're allowed to, because they are a three letter organization and they have ultimate power to do a lot of like really gross things that are in the nature or, or in the, the interest of national security. So like this is the whole idea of finding to say like this is our, our decision. This is the best move for national security. This is how we compromise assets. This is how we gather information, it's how we keep America safe.

2 (38m 23s):
It's like the Jeffrey Epstein files, like they're out there saying it would really compromise national security if we told you Yeah, yeah. Worldwide. If we told you that actually this whole world is being run by pedophiles, it it, our nation wouldn't be secure. I mean you guys would probably be in the streets violently protesting. You'd never send your kids into school, you'd avoid the government like the plague and you'd stop playing taxes. So we're just gonna classify that as a national security risk. That's kind of what that means. Obviously it means that what they are doing is so despicable that if we knew what they were doing, we would not listen to them. That's what that means. That's what that language means. That's why there's been so much protection over Jeffrey Epstein because that is who rules over us.

2 (39m 3s):
These people are disgusting. And yeah, there's just been so much proof in particularly I would say the last two years of that. I mean, any person who actually watched the Braquet Macron story knows that that was a story about pedophiles in power, pedophiles in power, and the psychopathic length they will go through to maintain the lie, right? Because they just think even though we're lying and we're caught lying, and you all know that we're lying, we're the slave masters. How dare ve now, and Theo and Joe had quite a laugh discussing the Jit Macron non conspiracy theory. Take a listen

8 (39m 40s):
Dude, Candace is the best I went to see. She has her, her and her husband have four of the most beautiful kids in the world and they're so funny. And you go over there and then it's like dying laughing and one of 'em looks just like her. It's so funny, dude.

7 (39m 55s):
Do you think she's right about that French president?

8 (39m 57s):
Oh, the

7 (39m 60s):
Yes, not he is married to a man. She's all in on that bro. Oh,

8 (40m 6s):
She's all in. Well they're

7 (40m 8s):
Suing her, aren't they?

8 (40m 9s):
I think they are. I don't know if they still are.

7 (40m 11s):
I think they're at least threatening a lawsuit. And so like for like 50 million bucks,

8 (40m 16s):
Wee wener, that would be my, if she ever writes a book, that's gotta be it. But dude, it is kind of strange that the guy is dating his teacher, right?

7 (40m 27s):
Or when the, he was like 40 and the kid was 15 or she was 40 even if it was a she Like what? And again, this is France, they're very different over there. Yeah, pedophilia is just like,

8 (40m 41s):
Oh, catch

7 (40m 42s):
Your weed out of that child.

8 (40m 44s):
We know we, we,

7 (40m 45s):
What have you done?

8 (40m 47s):
We nail,

7 (40m 48s):
He is almost 15,

8 (40m 51s):
Bro. That if she does, oh she better have a hog on her. And I don,

7 (40m 54s):
I bet she doesn't.

8 (40m 54s):
That's what I'm saying. I don't know if she has the body style to have a real hog on her and that if they release the last thing needs. The last thing France needs is to release like a wiener that looks like it's retreating kind of. It will just go down in the, they need to release a

2 (41m 14s):
Classic Theo v Classic. Theo V. And here's the reality. I told the truth about the regime Macron story, right? And like I said, the fact that they ha are caught and their move is we're gonna sue Candace Owens. That really tells you the nature of a psychopathology. Like these people are not human. Do ve now what I mean they're not human. There's something very dark and sinister and wrong that nothing stops them. They have no shame and their only option is more anger, more destruction. And in some circumstances people with that much power in a lot of circumstances, more murder.

2 (41m 54s):
More murder. And I will never get over the fact by the way that the decision was made to execute Charlie Kirk publicly. They wanted us to see it. I just, that is something that truly disturbs me on every level to consider that they wanted us to see it and then they wanted to spend money on the psychological campaign to tell us that we were wrong for seeing it and thinking about it and not accepting the narrative like that really gets to the heart of the disturbing corruption and psychopathic nature of our government's worldwide. I just wanna say that. Okay, now in funnier news, if you think that by not acknowledging conspiracies, you're somehow gonna be spared by them, you're obviously very wrong.

2 (42m 41s):
If you join the corporate, the experts and try to throw mud at people who are speaking about the obvious lies, eventually you will get swallowed by them. That's just how it goes. You ve now you sell your soul the devil, eventually you'll get, you'll get swallowed by it. Now that's not a way to say that. Tim Pool sold himself to the devil. I, he's a bit of a fence sitter. I like Tim Pool, he's always been good to me, but when it matters he will always just take like a little dig. And he kind of did that when I started investigating the Charlie Kirk series and he kind of said, oh well no, your number one podcast and you should be more concerned about harmony. As I started saying that the donors were squeezing Charlie, like that's the main thing. This is a part of the story. Like donors were getting very angry with Charlie.

2 (43m 24s):
And then what happened was that Tim Poole, who is always invited to speak at Turning Point USA's am fest, they cut him because of his, seemingly because of his anti-Israel or what could be interpreted as as anti-Israel rhetoric. Anyways, let's watch Tim Poole in quick succession.

9 (43m 46s):
That moment before Charlie was murdered, there was a path that we were on that was promising. Now two months later, the narrative has turned into conspiracy drama about Charlie Kirk if Turning Point was involved in it, references to Jewish donors pulling out and how Erica knew everything. And that's the narrative the number one podcast has given us a few moments later. I've not said anything particularly disparaging about AM Fest, but they told me I couldn't come. Why? Maybe it's because I said we should stop funding Israel. Maybe it's because I said we should be giving money to Ukraine. Maybe it's because young people largely don't want foreign intervention and there are individuals in politics who disagree.

2 (44m 34s):
There it is Tim and and I do that in Friendly Jest. But that that's the point. Like just you gotta go after the thing and talk about what's real because there was an infiltration happening at Turning Point USA, it's still happening. Obviously Charlie was in the way and this is relevant, it's all relevant. We have to understand exactly what happened in the months leading up to Charlie Kirk's assassination to understand a fuller picture to try to get to what the truth is. And yeah, anyways, I thought it was very funny when I saw that happen. Not like funny that you didn't get invited. It happened to me the year before. That's it. The donor squeeze him. They don't like one thing. You say you get put on a list threat financial threats are made and Charlie was standing up for himself. So, but I do think it's funny that you learned this lesson the hard way.

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2 (47m 44s):
Top comment from last episode is from Yearning for For the Truth from yesterday's episode. This person writes, there is a current propaganda campaign going on at Calvary Chapels where Israel is directly sending money to an LLC in San Diego by the name of show, faith by Works. This LLC is working with churches to promote an October 7th experience. It includes spreading a certain narrative about what happened that day and a geofencing campaign where if you attend these churches, your phone will be targeted with pro-Israel ads and much more. I sent you the official far document via email where their entire plan is laid out. Yeah, this is, this is like MK Ultra.

2 (48m 25s):
These are basically there's, these are government military experiments. It's like how many times can we tell you that Israel is a victim before you believe it? How many times can we tell you that Charlie Kirk, nothing happened weird on that day and it was just a lone shooter before you believe it. I think they have stretched this campaign to its max. I don't think more people, the more money they spend and the more magazines that they print at a church are being drawn towards Israel, I think they're realizing something is very wrong. So it's having the exact opposite effect. And for that reason, I encourage it because we have to wake up to what's going on. We've all been asleep at the wheel. We've all been victims of psychological campaigns one way or the other.

2 (49m 7s):
I mean, what was it a couple of years ago? I was try, I was right versus left, left versus right, Democrat versus Republican. And I'm going, what the heck is this evil at the top that rules over the rest of us. We have to come together. That is the only way that we can undo this matrix. Truly. And I do wanna say this from my heart. I know what I saw in that vision that I told you guys. I had in the days leading up Charlie's assassination that made me pull my kids out of school. I kind of know where the story's going to end. And I would like to again, use my platform to encourage you to take your children out of government schools and homeschool your kids. There is something much darker going on in this nation, and I believe that our children are at risk in government schools.

2 (49m 51s):
And I just have it on my heart to keep saying that to parents to understand this thing is really ugly, it's very dangerous. And what I effectively feel are sleeper cells all across the nation. Charlie hopefully will catalyze your understanding of that something is very wrong. And these people are growing more radical and more dangerous in their demands. And they are like, if you were in my book club, you understand this. They are trained psychopaths, like they conducted experiments to figure out how to make somebody grow up to be a psychopath. And that's what we're seeing. These are people that are in power. Sigmund Freud explicitly spells that out, that doing these things to children, they will grow up and they will be a psychopath.

2 (50m 34s):
They've understood this. Just wanna say that. Protect the children. That is the most precious resource. Moving on, laughing cats music worldwide. Wow, thank you. That is a a very, a tremendous donation that you just made to us up until Andrew Covet told us that we had to believe in Miracle Vertebrae. I was a devoted T-P-U-S-A donor and a show member how things have changed. I feel like their wheels are coming off with shady people and financials Go Max Candace, besides the pastors, the rabbis, the influencers and the politicians on X, the rest of the world is with you. Yeah, I I know that and I also know that this is my mission. Like I just spiritually know that this is my mission to help awaken, to help further catalyze this global awakening that we're having.

2 (51m 17s):
And whatever part I play in it, so be it. I just wanna get into heaven and you, I'm not gonna get there by making deals with the devil. You, you perceive your own safety by just going along with it. But there's nothing that could be less safe than allowing evil to continue to rule because you fear it. It's only gonna get worse. It's only gonna get more demented. And we are seeing that now. E 30 31 writes and this is, thank you. That's another major donation. They divided us so that we would never talk, never think, but open minds will always find truth. Thank you Candace, for going deep and showing what real critical thinking looks like. And Charlie, he found out what we have known all for a while and he has connected those dots.

2 (52m 1s):
He can't say it, but we know now. Yeah, deep down, I think we do know what, what this is really about. Sole survivor writes, Calvary Global Network branched off from Calvary Chapel Association in 2017. Much like they infiltrated T-P-U-S-A, they started branching out into separate things. I sent in a tip about Cal Calvary Global Network and you may find it interesting. Thousand Oaks is a part of Calie global network. It is always about infiltration. And I wish, obviously I can't change what happened to Charlie, but I just wish I was there because I always warned him about certain people, this very people that the world is now kind of switched on to and going, what's up with these people? Charlie was just so motivated and I think that he equated more dollars with more success and didn't equate it necessarily with more of a threat.

2 (52m 48s):
But Charlie did not die in vain, obviously, because we are having this conversation because of what happened to him. Big foot believer rights. With everything that you've uncovered, is there any chance our extremely unserious government will ever prosecute Charlie's killers, if not cash Patel's, FBI may be the next. I am having a hard time taking politics seriously since Charlie's death go Max. I was very clear. I'm I'm not voting until they tell us what happened to Charlie, why it happened to Charlie, why it had to happen to Charlie. Yeah, I'm just out and I don't really care what anybody has to say about that. I would say no, by the way, they are prosecuting regarding Charlie's girlfriend. She hit us with a, with a strike on YouTube.

2 (53m 30s):
It wasn't a strike. We got a, what did we got? I don't, I don't wanna mischaracterize it. A copyright claim for her sensational music. And so we might have to trim out that sensational song from the Tim Dylan clip that we showed of him listening to it. So, oh, sorry. I said Charlie's girlfriend. I meant Cass's girlfriend. Thank you for correcting me. A big foot believer. Oh, sorry. Odium writes, my bet is it's connected to the Macrons. They rang the MK Ultra red phone to get you off their backs. Plus Charlie was now an issue to them. One stone, two birds. It's just me thinking out loud and speculating. But ve now, a lot of people wrote that instantly like they did this intentionally because you were on the track of Jit Macron and we were getting real close talking about that MK Ultra experiment that happened that I believe it, it looked very much like prisoner 2 0 9 3 could have been Jean-Michel Trug.

2 (54m 23s):
No. And then this happens, and I did not at all think there could be a connection, but this French angle is weird. I will say that this, like now learning about how the French whatever purchased the hanger and did this deal and I, yeah, I don't know. We don't know. We are just following the actual evidence and investigating this. But a lot of you have sent in that those are your suspicions. We have no concrete evidence to prove that obviously. But I think we have enough evidence to suggest that this was multinational. At the very least we can accept that this was an international operation. Raymond Rohr writes assassination or more about what one plans to do, not what they have done.

2 (55m 3s):
Lincoln's plan after freeing the slaves Relocation Kennedy's plan to deal with the military industrial complex. What was Charlie's plan after the Doge investigation? There is the answer could be, yeah, it's a lot of stuff to think about and I think about it constantly. I'm obviously obsessed with this case. Ms. Heather writes Candace, I had to mute and sit in silence to process all of that. It's one thing to know about the corruption, but when you finally No, no, it it sickens you to the core. God bless. Yeah. And we don't even, like, there's a lot more that many people are working on and we're all starting to connect the dots and it's decentralized. So I mean, like I said, what's their plan?

2 (55m 44s):
Are they just gonna murder us all in broad daylight? I, I shouldn't challenge them, but it does seem like a lot of people are now switching on and realizing this is sickening. It, it should sicken you to your core. That means that you're a human. It means that you have a soul and these people do not for whatever reason. Jennifer k writes Candace, keep going. Max Zammit writes Candace, go Max. Worldwide evil has no borders. Charlie is watching you with pride. I know he is watching. I know that Charlie is proud of me and he knew that I would do this. That gives me tremendous comfort. Caribou writes, praying for you and your family and standing with you in truth. And y writes from a Cuban who opened up her eyes.

2 (56m 26s):
Thank you. Gracias s Owens. Love that. Well You guys, we will see you tomorrow. Don't forget that we have book club at 6:00 PM Eastern. If you would like to support us, head to Candace Owens dot com, sign up for a subscription to the book club. Stay while you're there. We have a tremendous series on vaccines. A part of this evil, of course, is the pharmaceuticals because they wanna spat and stupid and dumb so that they can rule over us. Who said slavery was over crazy? I don't know why we ever thought that slavery was over. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

11/18/25
The Great Exodus From Utah? Where Did The "Egyptians" Go On 9/10? | Candace Ep 267


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2 (26s):
All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. Rob McCoy, America's pastor. Remember Charlie told him, Charlie told me I was America's pastor. Well, it sure as heck seems that this American pastor travels to Israel a lot, ve now a lot of these American pastors do. And he went there the other day to of course, honor Charlie Kirk. We're gonna talk about that. And I wanna just say Zionists are confusing at best. They say Charlie was their bestest friend forever and ever. Yet for whatever reason, they are deeply upset by this investigation. They are deeply upset that we revealed the license plate numbers associated with the Egyptian frequent fliers.

2 (1m 10s):
Why do you think they're upset about that? I don't understand. Why would something like that upset them? It's almost like they know something that we don't and we're gonna figure out what that is. Welcome back to Candace. So a couple of housekeeping items to start. My sister is an accountant. She hit me up this morning and she told me that actually the filing deadline, if you file for an extension, which we can assume Turning Point did, was November 15th for this year.

2 (1m 50s):
So their filing would have been due on Saturday, this last Saturday for Turning Point USA. And it is possible that they did file it on Saturday and maybe it's being processed. It would've been late beginning yesterday when we covered it. So I just wanted to update you guys on that. And of course we will keep refreshing the IRS website and see whether or not that filing came through since the whole world wants to see it. Anyways, back to our Zionist friends, Israeli and American Zionists are deeply bothered about the Egyptian plane. They're not concerned in the way that you think they would be. You would think that they would be, oh my gosh, thank you Candace.

2 (2m 32s):
We love Charlie so much. We're very concerned to learn that these Egyptian military planes were tracking Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk for years. What can we do to help? Gosh, we're right next door to them. We did a lot to Egypt. We actually control a lot and we surveil a lot in that state. Let us help you rather. Their concern is that we reveal the rental license plates. These are real tweets from some Zionists. We've got a Jacobi who writes, this is what doxing looks like. These are unparalleled levels of insanity. This is truly dangerous. Oh, it's dangerous.

2 (3m 12s):
So basically what doxing is, if you're not familiar with that term, is it's when you put private information up about an individual that can become identifiable. So like if I published your private address and then somebody could go to your home and harm you, that's what they were accusing me of. Erin Wexler. Now this is the girl that was at the now infamous Hamptons retreat. She wrote this back, back that up. Candace started her career by doxing. Teenagers, old habits die hard. That is just so weird. I just thought she, the Hamptons people would be on this Egyptian thing trying to help as best they could, but they're actually more concerned for these Egyptians who were renting a car. And therefore, since they don't even go here, like why would this be identifying information?

2 (3m 58s):
Are you concerned for like hurts? Rent a car? What are you concerned about here? We're not clear. Now, going back to what we've learned about this flight thus far, I wanna remind you that we have confirmed that this was a full flight over to Utah. This Egyptian flight, and I'm referring to B-T-T-S-U dash BTT landed into Utah six days before Charlie Kirk's assassination. So we are looking at anywhere between 12 to 14 quote unquote Egyptians that were on this flight and Deplaned on September 4th.

2 (4m 40s):
Okay? A high government source actually reached out and made me aware, and this is stunning actually, that we missed this common sense. I, I should have figured this out all by myself. But there is such a thing as federal protocol. They told me, this person in the state department confirmed that a foreign military jet actually can't just land on American soil without the federal government paying attention. It actually requires a federal escort. Okay? Again, common sense. I don't know how we didn't think of this ourselves. Of course, if you're a military jet, you can't just fly into foreign land and hop off the jet and be like, okay, bye.

2 (5m 21s):
Just gonna do whatever I want. Of course they're gonna go high. Are you, are we starting a war here? What's going on? So this person tells me that of course that cannot happen. The government is immediately aware that this military equipped plane is coming in and an escort is provided 'cause they wanna know where they are going, what they are doing. So the question now is, and maybe Cash Patel can help us answer this. Just kidding. We know he won't. Who were the federal agents that escorted these Egyptians off the plane? Okay. Because they didn't just disappear into the other, you guys knew they were coming in and you watched them and you knew what they were doing in Provo.

2 (6m 3s):
And by the way, while we're checking in on these unanswered questions, has has Turning Point mustered the courage to answer my yes or no Circle yes or circle no as to whether or not these Egyptian jets were known to Charlie. Because like I said yesterday, it is highly plausible, highly likely that they were, he had a photographic memory and he loved planes. He loved learning about military planes. He would've recognized that that was circling around him a few times while he was on the road and circling around Erica. Ladies and gentlemen, I wanna make it very clear, yes, this is a conspiracy. It is a federal level conspiracy. It is likely an international conspiracy.

2 (6m 43s):
Multiple countries seem to be involved and I really hate to upset the Zionist crowd any further because I know I'm like your fav. But we now have identified a fifth verified rental plate that we can now add to the Egyptian mix. So that's a total of five rental cars that were rented by Duncan Aviation that we can review. Also, wanna thank the many of you who emailed us yesterday and informed me that I apparently do not know the difference between the letter N and the number nine. I think I just was saying nine or N every time I was reading these plates, which means I'm probably not qualified to be homeschooling my toddlers.

2 (7m 27s):
Anyways, I was mixing that up. I'm not going to mix it up. Now these are our five plates as follows, A white 2025 Toyota Camry. This had an Arizona license plate and that number is CWN like Nancy, 9 8 7 2. Okay, our second plate is a silver 2025 Toyota RAV4. That is a Utah license plate and that number is T 0 9 2 ZS. Okay? Third vehicle that we have here is a white 2023 Toyota RAV4, another Utah license plate.

2 (8m 16s):
The number is T 9 1 2 km. And we have a black 2025 Toyota four Runner Utah license plate. And that plate is Z 9 23 DA. And we can now present to you guys a fifth car, which we know was rented that is a gray or silver 2025 Toyota four Runner, Utah license plate number Z 3 4 9 AA five vehicles which were secured by Duncan Aviation.

2 (9m 6s):
Now since I wasn't born yesterday, I feel pretty confident concluding that these 14, 12 to 14 Egyptians didn't drop into Provo, Utah in the six days leading up to Charlie Kirk's assassination to fix like a broken light on the plane. Okay? Again, my source there is me not being born yesterday. It's just not how it works. You cannot just get something very quickly fixed in a couple of days and be on your way. And like I said, they weren't even on the plane on the way out. They waited for that anchor plane, S-U-B-N-D, the other Egyptian military plane to take them back home.

2 (9m 47s):
So what are we looking at here? What exactly were these Egyptians with the federal escorts doing on the day of Charlie Kch assassination? Well, in terms of some potentially interesting leads, someone, many of you guys actually noted to us that the cars that were in the driveway in the now infamous footage of the alleged shooter, right, which was somehow distributed by TMZ, we don't know how that happened. Should probably be investigated further because that's a lot of cars in the driveway and obviously every image that we have is blurred. Okay? It seems like we just can't get a clear image at all in this story. And so we cannot, it's impossible to discern anything, but it's therefore possible that some of those cars that we are looking at could be the rented vehicles, right?

2 (10m 33s):
Maybe the one parked on the right there is the Toyota RAV4, maybe the two that look similar. One that's dark, one that's lighter, could that, could that be the gray and the black forerunner? I don't know. But that could be compelling. That would be something that perhaps Joe Kent and Tulsi Gabbard who are warring, or at least that's what the press said, warring with the FBI or warring with Kash Patel could look into. 'cause these are, this is Egyptian. Okay, this is Egyptian. And I also wanna add here something that I have always suspected that makes perfect sense to me, which would be the reason that UVU has denied every request, not just to release footage of the day of the assassination, but also to release footage of the days leading up to the assassination.

2 (11m 24s):
Why? I think it's because the footage that we have seen right was recorded before September 10th. I always felt that in my gut. I always felt it was a distraction. The person in the staircase walking across the street in two different outfits, I just felt that some of this footage was recorded in the days leading up. Okay? And now, now that we know that those Egyptian planes came in six days before, six days before Charlie's assassination, it's possible that they could have staged some of that, which they eventually, ve now edited maybe a bit and released it to TMZ in in that timeframe. What we do know factually, and we don't have to surmise, is that there were eyewitness accounts you may have lost, obviously a lot of stuff came out immediately.

2 (12m 13s):
But what got lost in the fold was that there were eyewitness accounts of people having seen someone on that roof in the week before the shooting. This got buried in the press. There were students and allegedly a professor who reported seeing someone on the roof a week earlier. And I think we should try to track down these students, of course CNN, which ran this article, which I can show you here, didn't include their names. But here is the article. You can see it was published the day after the assassination and it reads Utah Valley University student recalls seeing man walking on or near the Azi Center roof twice in two weeks.

2 (12m 54s):
And from that article it says, the student says that he last saw the person on the roof last Wednesday at noon, a week before the shooting. He told CNN that he reported his observations to the FBI tip line after the shooting. But he has not heard back. The student described the man as tall, skinny ish white dude with dark hair. He had a backpack on and was wearing dark clothes. He added that the man was looking down at the courtyard area where Kirk speaking engagement was later. Okay, now here's what I did. I dug through all of our emails once I realized this and got went, okay, maybe there's something here. We should probably look a little further into this. Let's leave no stone unturned. And I found actually that one of you guys had sent me a tip a while ago about this and you had captured that recording and I'm gonna let you listen to this person's testimony.

2 (13m 43s):
This is, by the way, taken on September 11th. So this is a day after the shooting. We didn't have much details a day after the shooting. And this individual is a student that is being interviewed by another student about what he observed in the aftermath. So it's a, I think it's about a three minute recording. Let's listen to this observation because it could be important.

3 (14m 10s):
Do you think it was last Tuesday or last Wednesday and recount the first time meeting him and recount the second time maybe what you remember? Do you remember? Like what time of day it was?

4 (14m 21s):
Mid-afternoon? Like Yeah, I guess I don't remember the exact day. I know at least the second time was last week. Other Tuesday or Wednesday? Yeah. Yeah. So last

3 (14m 36s):
Tuesday and Wednesday. But they were on separate days.

4 (14m 38s):
They were separate days. Okay. It may have been both last week, Tuesday and Wednesday. One of them might have been like the week before Thursday or something. But yeah, like I said, it wasn't memorable and or significant enough at the moment for me to really

3 (14m 54s):
Remember. What did he look like?

4 (14m 59s):
Skinny tallish White guy had a like baseball cap on or some kind of hat I think had a backpack. Okay. Dark hair, I think

3 (15m 10s):
Dark hair. Was he dressed in like dark clothing? Do you

4 (15m 14s):
Remember? Yeah, he was, he

3 (15m 15s):
Was Okay. Was it like black or

4 (15m 19s):
Something? Something dark?

3 (15m 21s):
Was it similar to what was seen in the pictures?

4 (15m 23s):
Yeah, for sure. And that's, that's kind of why I ve now thought of that when I saw the pictures. Okay. I, yeah, I guess I, I, I don't think I'd remember enough to really definitively say that the guy I saw is the guy in the pictures. Right? I just know I saw a guy wandering around on the roof and the guy that I saw in the pictures looks similar.

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3 (16m 17s):
But it was the same roof of the same building. Yes.

4 (16m 21s):
Well I don't know the exactly because it's, it's the, the computer science building has this long concourse that connects to the LA center. Yeah, my bet would be that that's how the shooter got onto the LA center roof because that's one of a few ways I know of. I guess there's also a ladder on the other side

3 (16m 38s):
As in that's how it got on yesterday or last week.

4 (16m 41s):
Oh, well last time I I, I saw it and he came off of there

3 (16m 44s):
But okay. And you said he like jumped over the fence?

4 (16m 46s):
Yeah, there's kind of a railing around. There's this like concourse sticking up from the CS building that people are actually supposed to be allowed to walk on. Okay. And he walked over that railing and started wandering around the ledge.

3 (16m 58s):
Oh, okay. And facing which way.

4 (17m 1s):
He was totally looking out in the direction of like that fountain courtyard and out this way. The first time I thought it was a little weird but didn't think much of it, decided not to say anything. Especially because another, a guy, another guy walked back, I think he was a professor. I know I've seen him around a lot more. And he comes from below and he shouts up. But the guy, he asks like, are you okay? The guy up there says, yeah, yeah, I'm doing fine. And professor says Okay and walks away and I just, I kept walking 'cause I had work to do. I didn't really, and

3 (17m 35s):
That was the first or second time? That was the first time. And then what about the second time?

4 (17m 39s):
The second time I saw him do the same thing. He hopped the railings, started wandering around.

3 (17m 45s):
Was he dressed in the same clothing?

4 (17m 47s):
Similar. Okay. I, I don't remember enough to say whether it was the same and it was the same guy. It was definitely the same guy. That was two times.

2 (17m 57s):
Okay. So we were able to figure out who the student was. I don't know why CNN declined to publish his name, but I was able to figure out who the student was and I'm going to chase down this lead and I want to open up that possibility 'cause it is a possibility that the stairwell photo and the footage that we have seen of the shooter was actually recorded before the assassination. Of course that's a possibility. In the absence. Absence of quite literally anything verifiable the feds have given us everything is therefore a possibility. So I wanna also open this up because I don't wanna just hear it from one student or CNN, I wanna hear it from more students, right? That would be something that you would remember. We keep talking about what happened on nine 10. What about in the days leading up to nine 10, what about nine, six? Right? 9, 7, 9, 8, 9, 9. If you are a student and you saw someone up on the rooftop in the days or in the week leading up to the assassination, we wanna hear from you more tips at Candace Owens dot com because every time I have tried to chase down the leads regarding the rooftop, I am brought to a military person and I just don't know that any of that actually took place on the day.

2 (18m 57s):
And I think that's why they won't release any more footage. There should be multiple angles, right? If this all happened on nine 10, there would've been multiple angles and they sure as hell would've released it that released it in the middle of a manhunt When you thought that he could kill other people, you would have released more footage and they're not doing that, which means they're hiding something and that's something, something that they could be hiding, could be nothing. It could be nothing that happened on that rooftop. Also want to add on here that regarding the white RAV4, we got a lot of emails from the public that have noted that there appears to be what might be a RAV4 in every available footage that we have been, that we have provide been provided by of the shooter.

2 (19m 40s):
So we've only seen four pieces of footage of the alleged shooter. One of course of him walking in front of, I think this was the house that Phil Lyman was at. Yes. That's what we just discussed there. That sure as heck could be a white RAV4. The second piece of footage being the TMZ released footage of somebody else in the neighborhood of him walking. Yep. That sure as heck could also be a RAV4 footage. Number three is the footage of the alleged shooter pulling out in the parking lot, which was provided by Ryan Matta that he chased down. Yep. That also could be a RAV4.

2 (20m 21s):
And also of course the footage where he allegedly jumps off the rooftop. Many of you said it looked like there was a RAV4 pulling up. Look, yes, all of it's possible. Is it also possible that these are, this is just a coincidence. Yes. It could be a coincidence, it also could be a conspiracy. We have to explore every lead because the feds are not, they're implicated in this coverup and this is how investigations work. You chase down theories, you posit theories, you chase down those theories and you are open to being proven wrong. So that's what we have for you guys. Also going to have a major, major, major scoop tomorrow about what's happening on the inside of Turning Point USA. I just wanna triple, quadruple confirm, but we need to focus our attention on each and every plane that arrived in the aftermath of Charlie being shot.

2 (21m 11s):
Planes that took off and arrived. I brought up one plane to you. We were able to determine that that plane that departed Scottsdale at eight local time and landed at about 10:00 AM local time into Provo was owned by a Turning Point. USA donor. TW Lewis actually Turning Point USA is featured on TW Lewis's Foundation website as something as VE now someone that they fund. I'd like to know who was on that plane. That's interesting to me. If VE now who was on that plane and you are a Turning Point insider or maybe you were working in Scottsdale on that day at a terminal looking for a plane again that took off at about 8:00 AM I wonder who was on that plane that is of interest to me 'cause it wasn't Charlie and they got into Provo just ahead of the assassination and it has to be somebody big.

2 (22m 4s):
I don't think the students are flying around on private planes. It'd be great if that foundation TW Lewis Foundation could help us out. I don't think they will for some reason we keep coming up against the wall from Charlie's friends, but you wanna hear from you. More tips at Candace Owens dot com. Okay, we're going to be right back because a Turning Point is dropping receipts kind of a little bit. We're gonna talk about Blake Neff who dropped a receipt. Brian Harpo, the security who dropped a receipt right after a few of our sponsors.

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2 (24m 48s):
Well Turning Point USA is finally dropping some receipts. Kind of not really, but it's more than we've received thus far, which is nothing. So it's something and it's not at all what we were asking for but again I wanna be optimistic so at least it's something. First up, many of you guys pinged me regarding Brian Harpo, an interview that he did with Sean Brian. Now Brian Harpo is one of Charlie Kirk's long-term security members, team members and on the day of the assassination you'll recognize he's the guy that had the black strap. I don't know if we have a photo. He had a bag across him and he was standing to the front right of Charlie, kind of looking out at the audience.

2 (25m 30s):
You're gonna see him in a second. He is the one who then runs over to Charlie and again you recognize him 'cause he kinda has that small, it's supposed to be a medical bag over him. I have not watched this interview in its entirety, but from what I have seen thus far, it is just not that convincing. For one Brian offers up that the lack of security on the rooftop can actually be attributed to the UVU police Chief Jeff Long here is what he had to say

6 (26m 3s):
On Monday before this correspondence went to Chief Long. Hello Chief Long. We received this message today from the student group. There is a student roof access pretty close to where CK will be set up at the Utah Valley. The Sorenson Center has a couple of staircases that go up to walkways on the roofs. He comes back and the so for ification, the Sorenson Center was the building in front of the Lucy Center. And so he, and he comes back and he says, you want access to the roof? And came back and said, I was told students have access above us.

6 (26m 44s):
If this is true, it would be nice to either have a controlled access or allow one of my guys to be there as well if possible. He comes back and his last correspondence was, I got you covered Hubbard, what else am I to do when a command level person from an accredited police department says I've got this area, you guys

2 (27m 21s):
Please, please pick me. Okay VE Now when you're like in school and you gotta hold your hand up 'cause you really want a teacher to see you, I I have an answer for what else you could have done. You could have followed up because it's your job and Charlie paid you millions of dollars not to pass the buck. No. Also you asked the police chief an either or question and I'm just kind of like trying to understand the basic construct of sentences. He said, got you covered. What does that mean? It was an either or question. Either provide us access or get somebody up there Got you covered means what? No follow up, that's it. Millions and millions of dollars on his security annually. And he just said, Hey, a student told us that there's a rooftop and it would be good if we could have access to it or if one of your guys could secure it.

2 (28m 8s):
Got you covered. That's it. That's what Charlie was paying for. That's obviously absurd. That is not an answer. That should be accepted by anyone. I am not blown away by that. I'm not going, oh this is uvu U'S fault. Okay. By the way, Jeff Long also has a very extensive military career. I obviously have been very clear that I believe that this was a military level assassination. Everyone on the ground that day, every witness for some reason this is not a military academy, but everybody that we can speak to that's somehow involved has an extensive military background. I'm not interested in Jeff Long's participation in this, but Brian Harpo has sort of laments the fact that he won't speak up and people are losing their jobs On the basis of that answer, you should all be fired on the basis of that answer.

2 (28m 56s):
You didn't have it within you to go, let me follow up and make sure that's been secured because that's my job. Let me walk the path and see the fact that a student told you and you didn't know that, shouldn't you have told the student you shouldn't. You have said to the student, Hey we're looking at a map because it's amazing. It's 2025 and there's this thing called Google Maps. So we're actually looking at a map and we see where Charlie's gonna sit and we're wondering about this roof. Could you let us know how we're supposed to access that? Why is the student and the chief leading the charge and not you when you are paid for executive level security, it is an acceptable answer.

2 (29m 36s):
Look, I've worked with Brian, nice guy, that's a ridiculous answer. He should be fired and I'm gonna guess he's not gonna be, but he should be fired. Of course he should be fired elsewhere. In the interview he responds to the question of why they didn't at least have drone coverage on that day since they have flown drones, many drones, T-P-U-S-A events in the past. Here's his answer to that.

6 (30m 0s):
In your coordination with UVU, I mean did they offer any assistance? Anything at all? Yeah. Did you ask them of anything? Absolutely. So we come in and we start looking at things immediately like man, where's our, where are our risks? VE now where, what's our risk assessment when we come in? That's why we get there. That's why we start doing the advance. So early we walk it ve now we build it ourselves and and so initially we, we have, I spent thousands of dollars on drones last year and went and got the guy's license. But if the area lies in the Provo Utah airspace, I can't fly it.

6 (30m 41s):
That's a 1 0 7 B that got, we can't break the rules. Right. And then you had secondary restrictions probably due to heavy foot traffic for the school, but I, I can't go in and break the rules. There's laws for a reason and then, and so now the school could have flown drones, the pd, but they didn't have 'em. Right. And then, and then so, but Orum PD has a, a drone unit active and professional and that police department, I will tell you right now is awesome. They are, they get it. They, they were there. They helped both on the soft side and the hard side. And so I started asking questions like, you guys have a drone unit?

6 (31m 23s):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, good. Do you have an MOU or a, a mutual aid agreement with this school? And they're like, yeah. I said, did they call you and ask for assistance now? I'm like, why? Why wouldn't you call?

2 (31m 40s):
I think that's your job. Like am I crazy or is that his job? Is it his job to call and to see things through if Charlie's paying him for executive level security, like is this how these assassinations happen? Is that what's happening even like at the White House level with the Thomas Crooks thing? Is that what happened? Like Secret service just called locally in Pennsylvania and was like, Hey, that looks like trouble up there. Could you maybe get a guy up there or let me know or if like whatever. And then they were just like, yeah sure, gotcha. And then they just figured it was accomplished. I don't accept any of that. You shouldn't accept any of that, nor do I find him to be convincing.

2 (32m 21s):
Right. The vibe I'm getting from that interview is dishonesty. Okay, I'd like to see more of your conversation, not this screenshot that doesn't prove anything other than that. You started a conversation about the rooftop that you were aware that there was an open, open rooftop and didn't follow up in some measure. And so it's a little bit ridiculous to p to be PA passing the buck. So thank you for the receipt. That wasn't actually a receipt. Next up we have Blake Neff. Obviously you guys will recall Blake Neff was the Turning Point. USA employee that was standing directly next to Supercalifragilistic Ispi, Mikey McCoy when the shots rang out.

2 (33m 2s):
And he like Neff has similarly decided we drop a receipt. This happened I think actually last week of his actions on that day. Now to jog your memory, he offered up a, a pretty strong defense of the magnificent Mikey McCoy who he says had a quivering lip. And I'm gonna let you listen to Blake's account of that day. Again, as a reminder, before we get to his receipt, take a listen,

8 (33m 29s):
The shooting occurs. I am next to Mikey. Both of us hear a loud crack. We both turn, we both see Charlie who has been shot. Both of us I think at about the same time realize that that means there is a shooter who is on the scene and ve now you just hear the crack. So you don't know did it come from far away? Did it come from close? Is there a mass shooter unfolding right now? So I and him both had the reaction of let's get out of here before we're both shot. That is not us abandoning Charlie. Charlie had a security team. They all leapt immediately into action and they got Charlie out of there, which was what their job was to do. My job was not to get in the way and screw this up because like I had to be a hero.

8 (34m 10s):
That was not my job. I remember even running past both of us going past the ve now the SUV that we came in on and me thinking, should I get in that car? And then thinking, no, that's a really stupid thing to do. And then I kept going. So I was not with Mikey or I don't remember being with him. I think I was ahead of him as we left. And then we get out and I run for must have, can't have been more than 15 or 20 seconds. And then I realize there hasn't been another shot. So the shooter has likely been detained or stopped or something. Not in immediate danger. I pause, I look around me and I see Mikey and I see Mikey there and I'll never, truthfully, I will never forget what I saw because I've seen Mikey almost every day for the past two years.

8 (34m 54s):
I know his personality very well. He's a very bubbly guy. He's a very happy guy almost all of the time. And I'll never forget what I saw because it was clear in the moment that he, he was profoundly freaked out. What I'll always remember is the way his, his lip was quivering, which I'd never seen before. And you, you very rarely see from someone that he was freaking out. And then I think he literally said to me, I, I might be imagining this, but I think what he literally said was he's, and then he was looking around and then he says, I, I need to call Erica. And he then he takes his phone and he begins calling Erica. And I don't want to disclose how that yeah call unfolded, but he did that.

8 (35m 34s):
This ve now your mind extends all of this, but that is happening within a minute of all of this occurring. I remember he calls Erica I around the same time I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, mom, there's been a a shooting. You're going to see it on the news. I'm okay ve now pray for me. I've gotta go. And I remember that call and I, around the time I, I put that phone away and then he immediately calls his dad, he calls Rob McCoy and he says, dad, someone shot Charlie, you need to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit, we need everyone to pray right now. And that's what he told him. And I guess it's just, it's very disgusting for me as someone who witnessed this, who saw Mikey hugely distressed and then step up in the moment because after that was call, that call was over.

8 (36m 23s):
I saw Mikey like get total mastery of himself that he realized he had to step up in this situation. And okay, he from that point he was like, he a general directing.

2 (36m 33s):
Yeah, he's a general ve now. He's amazing. We love him. He's just the most magnificent thing I've ever seen. It's stunning, it's brave, it's everything. It's every adjective I ever knew. And more what's interesting there is that Blake Neff thing had a back forth with somebody on ex and I wanna be clear, I actually don't think Blake Neff is in on the corruption here. I don't know why. I've just never gotten that vibe. I think he believes what he's saying. And like I said, he is telling the truth as far as I can tell Vibe check, right? But what's interesting is he allows us to now date or rather put some time markers here on how long the phone call was between Mikey and Erica, right? Because he drops a receipt on X, he's having a back forth spat with somebody on XA few days ago, a week ago, I don't remember.

2 (37m 18s):
And he decides to drop his call log with his mom or rather a screenshot of the call that he had with his mom. Now remember Blake is in Arizona now, so this is gonna say 1124. It's supposed to be obviously 1224 Utah time. We can show you that. You can see. He calls his mom and the call is 45 seconds long and the call begins at 1124. So a story that he tells us is he's running for 20, 30 seconds, however long he said there is not long. He stops, catches his breath, he sees Mikey Mikey's got a quivering lip. Mikey looks at him and he says, I've gotta call Erica. And he says, Mikey calls Erica. And then I call my mom. And when he terminates the phone with, with phone call with his mom, he says, Mikey then called his dad, right?

2 (38m 3s):
That's the next thing that happens. That's a very short phone call, right? That allows us to at least get a sense of how this ran. 'cause we were, 'cause he, he's now confirming he called her first Charlie was shot at 1223, right? So these are back to back phone calls. It actually, if it happened this quickly with this receipt, it's possible that Rob McCoy did think he was the first person that was called because Rob McCoy is getting called at 1224 or 1225. This is all happening within two minutes, right? These phone calls are flying within two minutes, right? That means when he terminates that call, it's what 12. When you start a phone call, mark, you can chime in here and a mansplain.

2 (38m 43s):
If ve now the answer when you are looking at his, his screenshot there is that telling us when the call began or when the call terminated, it's when the

9 (38m 51s):
Call is initiated,

2 (38m 52s):
When the call is initiated. So it's possible 45 seconds later, he's now in the 1225 and now Mikey's calling his dad. That's very interesting. That's just another data point that we at least have there. Moving on to the Pastor America's pastor Rob McCoy, I just think in general, by the way, I wanna give a shout out to Calvary Chapel because I knew nothing about Calvary Chapel before this investigation. These pastors are doing the absolute most, I have never seen such an obvious and naked propagandist campaign in my life than me exploring the Calvary Chapel church movement. So America's pastor, Rob McCoy was in Jerusalem on November 16th, apparently a couple days ago.

2 (39m 37s):
He was at an event, it was built as a celebration of the life of Charlie Kirk. And what better way to celebrate the life of Charlie Kirk than to take questions from the audience about, you guessed it, Senator Carlson and Karis Owens. Take it away. Israel,

9 (39m 53s):
We see people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens and, and these people are essentially trying to hijack the Christian message and, and spread an anti-Israel message in the name of Christianity. And they're perverting this Judeo-Christian brotherhood and ethic by essentially promoting Jew hatred, but putting a Christian label on it. What can we do to push back and what can the church do to be able to just completely repudiate that kind of dishonesty and perversion of what Judeo-Christian values truly are?

10 (40m 35s):
That's a great question We've gotten into this situation with, with that generation of young people because they have all been raised by Caesar and we're, we're wondering why they become Romans. We, we have abdicated our public school system to secularism and it's the red green revolution where you take away with secularism the moral foundation and then you come in with, whether it be Islam or Ethnonationalism because we've gone through critical race theory, diversity, equity and inclusion. We've taken white males and put 'em at the bottom of the totem pole.

10 (41m 17s):
We've mocked them and embraced the stupidity and now we're upset that, that they feel as though they've been ve now relegated to obscurity and now they're signing on with these awful directions in life.

2 (41m 34s):
So it's interesting to think about them discussing how we need to be reeducated again, kind of like the Robert Maxwell campaign, like we had to have the Holocaust education. And I want you to imagine a world where Calvary Chapel churches get to decide how we're educated because somebody sent me an actual magazine that they have. Again, I'm new to the Calvary Chapel thing that's happening. I knew they were behind a lot of the attacks against me and Tucker Carlson this year, but I hadn't realized that how, like I said, naked and propaganda. This is, this is this month's issue of Calvary Chapel magazine. Apparently they have their own magazine and this is not parody. This is Judeo Christianity.

2 (42m 14s):
This is the cover of Calvary Chapel magazine from this month. And it says, stand with Israel. It tells the story of surfer to shepherd. I guess that's somebody's story. And then you have their subtitle. I guess we're gonna be able to read this article in there, why Jews are Hated. You go to your church on Sunday and this is what they are handing out. Now, the person who sent me this then showed me what was inside, which is even more amazing. Here we go. Here we are learning about Christianity. Oh, actually it's a photo of IDF soldiers wearing yamikas coming home and it has a quotation here that said God began to paint a prophetic portrait of the Messiah.

2 (42m 57s):
I just wanna know how this happened. I guess, I don't know. I was asleep. I didn't know this was going on. I didn't understand that this is, they, they have so many megachurches everywhere, everywhere across America and they, they basically exist to convince Christians to worship the IDF. I just find that to be quite strange. Let me know if I'm out of pocket here. And you really think that this is not propagandist and that you're learning Christ's message when you line up and you get handed stuff like this. I, I don't know. I just feel like that for me is something that we need to talk about more because it's pretty obvious what happened here. And of course BB net and Yahoo was involved in the Cavalry chapel churches, we're gonna get to that tomorrow.

2 (43m 41s):
His relationship with Bob Coy, not to be confused with Pastor Rob McCoy, but Bob Coy, the one from Fort Lauderdale who got into a little bit of a scandal with sexual abuse. Again, we'll get into that tomorrow before we get into comments. When we get into comments rather, I'm gonna tell you finally answer that question, that lingering question when I told you I would find out what was the name of the donor that similarly freaked out and spazzed out when Charlie let Tucker Carlson speak on stage and took a million dollars away from Charlie. I'm gonna tell you what the who that donor was and just after a few more sponsors.

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2 (46m 55s):
So we all know of course that Charlie's dear friends, the Zionists and the donors who loved Charlie lost their ish at the Turning Point USA SaaS event last July when Tucker Carlson hit the stage and Charlie told Tuck Carlson to go, max Tucker Carlson went Max and by max I mean just said like basic American principles like we shouldn't be worshiping Israel, that the Epstein files should be released and that obviously our relationship is not America first with Israel. And that caused a donor meltdown. It was like a last straw. We have showed you the data points, we have showed you the timeline. That's where things start to get a little dicey with Charlie and I think it's very relevant anyways, I had mentioned to you that there was, 'cause everybody's micd up.

2 (47m 38s):
I told you all this was micd up. Obviously Meg Kelly happened to have that footage, but they have that footage with like full clarity of exactly what Charlie said to Tucker Carlson and they had the footage of the donors who freaked out at least the audio of the donors who freaked out. I told you about a woman who yelled and took away a million dollars 'cause of the Tucker Carlson speech. That woman was Joyce Chernik. Joyce Chernik is married to Aubrey Chernik. He's a software tech billionaire guy. They fund a variety of pro-Israel causes through the David Horowitz Foundation. So that was another donor who went Bye-bye Charlie, how dare you let or Carlson say thanks.

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2 (48m 48s):
and reminding You guys that book club this week is going to be on Thursday. I don dunno if I even told you guys that, I think we sent out an email but telling you this for the first time on the show that we bumped it to six o'clock Eastern on Thursday, so no book club tonight. We'll have it at 6:00 PM Eastern on Thursday. Top comment from yesterday's episode is from Abby Sloan. She writes, I don't think they realize that if Candace had an audience of one, she would still be doing this investigation. A men, yes, I would still be doing this investigation and sometimes these investigations do have to be done with an an audience of one. Definitely a lot of times in the past before people were more dialed in to the fact that there is something tremendously evil going on in this country and our feds are not interested in discovering that evil because they're a part of the evil.

2 (49m 35s):
I think we all accept that not just in this country worldwide, right? There's something about the Charlie Kirk assassination that we spiritually already recognize has international implications. That's very clear and it'll become more clear in the coming weeks as I continue to roll out information. We don't do everything very quickly because this is a game of cat and mouse and we need to know where the snakes are, we need to know where the rats are on the ship and there are a lot of them and we are getting closer. I think I can confirm to you guys that there is mass panic over this show. I guess they thought they were gonna get away with it. They were hoping that they had successfully fostered this, that A DHD culture where people are just unable to pay attention to anything, right?

2 (50m 20s):
Not even like a, a Netflix show can they pay attention to long term. So they were hoping, okay, we're gonna do this thing at the Staples Center and then move on from it. And actually it turns out the world is focused and they're locked in and the feds are not gonna get away with it. That is what I can say. They're not gonna get away with it this time. Okay, getting into your comments today. Jennifer writes, it's official. I am a conspiracy theorist. Ask questions, seek the truth. Thank you. Candace, we don't know. No, but we know why follow Erica who was on the planes were being lied to and I don't like it. I'm glad that CK has you to ask the right questions and get some answers. Yeah, I saw you guys in a lot of you guys in the chat asking why these particular planes were following. Erica, I have an indication as to why.

2 (51m 2s):
Of course I want to thoroughly vet that and to make sure that I ask the right people to confirm the things that we are looking at. But I have an indication as to why that may have been just common sensing. It writes Rep Massey Green, any Republican or Democrat representative that is watching, please put forth a bill to end foreign and domestic lobbying. It's the only way we have a shot at a government. It hasn not put foreign and big corps big corporation interests before ours. Yes, you are correct. Don't forget that when JFK tried to put an end to that, well I guess rather put an end to the Israel exception that we now have by making them sign up and Acknow Farrah to follow the Farrah they shot him.

2 (51m 46s):
Who was they? Who was they? I don't know. But it ended up being reversed. So we should not accept that. We should not accept lobbying full stop. But we certainly shouldn't accept this sort of Israel exception, which is they do not have to certify anything under Farrah obsessed sports rights. If the planes are truly from the Egyptian government, would that mean their passengers in cargo would have diplomatic immunity and allow them to do illicit activities, espionage, weapons, trafficking, et cetera, without much oversight. You are on the right track. Certainly there are a lot of implications with why this plane would be allowed in and the federal government would escort it and then everyone would play dumb when Candace mentioned this flight being on the ground.

2 (52m 31s):
It's interesting. Definitely more questions than answers but we will have answers for you guys. Kayla Ferris writes, several people said there was a lot of vehicles at the home of the alleged shooter around the week before the shooting, right? That's another tip. You are correct and I should explore that. They all said it was strange because they never had company over. You are absolutely correct and I can try to hunt that down and see what I come up with for you guys tomorrow. Renee Wrights talked to the neighbors. They were complaining about many cars parked at residence possibly ring cameras will show the footage of those vehicles. I would imagine Cash has taken everything they were making sure they had secured everything under the guise of trying to discover who murdered.

2 (53m 14s):
Charlie. Obviously they were cleaning things up, but we can try. If you guys have footage, that would be great. Again, we wanna see the days leading up. So relevant timeframe would be from nine four up until nine 10 looking for these vehicles, these five vehicles that we ve now shown you El Hodges write, I have writes, I find it insane how influencers, Tim Pool were speaking up against you regarding Turning Point USA and you no longer being invited to AM Fest. Apparently he said something hurtful and they said he can't go weird. I am not following what Tim Pool has been saying. I know that he was kind of, he always kind of throws shade about me investigating things.

2 (53m 55s):
I I, I did see a clip on X that when we started this investigation of him saying people were doing it for clicks, which is just it. I, I have no response to that. It's just I can't think of more things that were done for clicks and for money than selling t-shirts of what he died in making $70 million. I have not sold anything with Charlie's face or Charlie's name. I have kept up my job, which was always investigating as I've been doing this entire year, the last two years, authentically Magnetic Writes, wild Top Canis stays 10 steps ahead while everyone else is still reacting to yesterday's news and I can't win with these people. They say I have no proof and I present proof and they accuse me of doxing. They say, I have no proof, and then I drop the text messages and they're like, how dare you share the private text messages?

2 (54m 39s):
They're just lying. They are lying and I am telling the truth. That's it. That's what's happening right now. Twins versus twins writes, can we get a book that is not signed? Yes. MAKE HIM A SANDWICH. Dot com has the unsigned books. MAKE HIM A SANDWICH. Dot com has the unsigned books. Hope that helps you out. And you guys, thank you again. We're working on a very, very big lead tomorrow that I believe that we should be able to present tomorrow as we begin to sort through all of the planes that were flying on that day, who was on each plane is now very relevant as we take a look at this picture of why this SU dash B and D jet might have been transp bonding without moving at Duncan Aviation.

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So stay tuned and we'll see you tomorrow.

11/18/25
Operation Mocking-Plane: The Charlie Kirk Plot Thickens. | Candace Ep 266

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All right, you guys. Happy Monday. A little bit of history for you today. It was after the public execution of sitting president JFK in 1963 that the CIA established Operation Mockingbird Deep State assassinations require deep state solutions. They spent an offensive amount of money to control the press and to control the narrative, to put an end to the public asking common sense questions about what actually transpired on that fateful day in Dallas. To put it simply, the deep state declared a psychological warfare campaign on the people. In effect, their soldiers were the journalists and the writers.

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Their goal, obviously, to get people to just stop asking questions, to almost criminalize asking questions via methods of gas lighting. Fast forward to 2025 and they're running the exact same playbook. Charlie Kirk was assassinated in broad daylight and they immediately deployed their troops to criminalize asking questions.

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What are you supposed to take from the everyone? I ve Now what? I mean

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I, I think the implication was dramatic and then I think a lot of people reading the tweets would assume that she meant Erica Kirk,

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Either Erica Kirk is evil and was in on it, or Candace Owens is an evil

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Cop. I think that what Candace Owens is doing right now is evil. It's evil. What she's doing right

2 (1m 39s):
Now, post Charlie, there was so much unity, so much excitement, so much resurgence and faith and newfound interest in faith and that now there is discord, so many distractions and that is just like Satan who comes to steal, kill, and destroy. He is called the great accuser. He is the sower of Discord. The author of confusion. The

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Reason I haven't waited on things is I'm an eyewitness to events and they said, don't comment on things because anything you say can mess that up. I don't want to mess up any trial for the person who did this. That's a thousand percent right, but Candace Owens is well within her rights to suggest certain things and all this, and she has the right to free speech and all that, that that's fine. She's right, right? To ask questions. I just think it is hurtful and not helpful when you cross a line to strongly suggest somebody's guilty of something for which you have no evidence.

1 (2m 18s):
Challenge accepted. Frank Turk, let's go Max today. Welcome back to Candace, pastor Rob McCoy. Let's not forget him too, because he's the spawn of naval psychological intelligence, psychological campaigns upon the public, and here's what he has to say about matters. Take a listen.

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I I wanna read you a passage outta Romans. It says in Romans 12, 15 and 16, rejoice with those who rejoice and weep with those who weep, be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble and do not be wise in your own opinion. I think that's a fitting verse. I mean, we're hearing all kinds of speculation about Charlie and what he believed and didn't believe and, and I just have to tell you, this is not the time for it. Hmm. It's a time, it's a time to minister to the family. They, they have a husband and a father to bury. We have a friend to bury a brother, to bury a son, to bury, and the world is mourning and this is not the time to get clicks.

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It's not time to build it your empire. It's time to just simply weep with those who weep and it's time to just humble yourself and, and not, not make it all about you. It's about the Lord.

1 (3m 48s):
You hear that Christians asking questions is just, it's not about you. I mean, is there anything that they didn't try? You're making money off of this. It's unbiblical. Charlie wouldn't want this. His family is grieving. Not right now. Let's at least wait a couple of weeks. It's going to ruin the case. You'll get into heaven as long as you don't think about it. Don't think about what happened on nine 10, then you're guaranteed a slot into heaven, ve Now, I used to really lament the fact that I grew up on the wrong side of the tracks. Seriously, I hated that I didn't grow up rich who didn't, right? Who does not hate if you grow up without a lot that you didn't just that you weren't just born into the right circumstances. And now I reflect on those feelings and oh, I wouldn't change a single thing.

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I am actually so grateful. That's what I wanna say today. I am so grateful about where I started my life in St. John's Towers. I look at that building now, it's such pride and I am grateful to have not grown up with a silver spoon in my mouth because it fortified my character and it gave me a lot of common sense, basic survival skills. It requires gut instinct and I had to learn at a very young age to read people. I think that's my superpower actually. Just being able to look at someone and sense danger or sense deceit. I can just look at Rob McCoy and for me it's a no, it's obviously a no. Same thing by the way, I should mention with Stephen Crowder, I have never been a fan.

1 (5m 9s):
He just always gave me the energy of a pathological liar. I trust my gut. I don't trust influencer campaigns. I don't trust celebrities because they're raising their arms and they glitter and shine and they tell me that I should roll up my sleeves and get a vaccine. I don't listen to any of that. I trust my gut instincts always and my gut started telling me that they suddenly began panicking when I discovered the Egyptian planes. They did what we now term a pre bunking, right? A pre bunking is when you say something casual and then they send out like a full fleet against you to not even actually debunk you, but they're just so extreme in not debunking you that they even lie about what you said and that lie tends to actually foreshadow something that they don't want ve now.

1 (5m 58s):
So I'll give you a perfect example. On October 11th when I infamously tweeted about the Egyptian military plane that left Provo on the morning of Charlie Kirk's assassination, I got the time zone wrong by a couple of hours and they completely overreacted. I mean a account that didn't even exist wrote, oh, it's the time zone is wrong. Next thing ve now it was trending and they pretended it had been officially debunked just because the departure time was wrong, but that wasn't even enough for them. They were so alarmed and I wasn't, I was off air at that time, right? I took a two week break. They still found something to scandalize when I wasn't even on air. Something that I didn't even say.

1 (6m 39s):
They sent undercover operatives to sign up for my private book club that I kept on Tuesday and then they took out a clip of that book club from that book club and accused me of accusing Erica, of murdering her husband. I mean they manufactured that claim out of thin air and then they made it go viral. They sent it out to all the right people, Stephen Crowder, right? Everyone suddenly making videos saying that because I said he was betrayed by everyone, obviously what I meant was Erica Kirk murdered her husband and this was all happening because I mentioned the Egyptian plane. I am certain of it and so that you can look backward and really see how these psychological campaigns work.

1 (7m 22s):
I want you to watch this clip of Stephen Crowder trying to convince people that despite the words that are coming out of my mouth, they shouldn't listen to what I'm saying. He actually knows what I really meant, which is something that I didn't say. And yeah, here it is. Here's that clip.

8 (7m 39s):
But you watch this clip in its entirety and it seems pretty blatant that she's saying, and people are interpreting it this way, which is also important that the Trump administration, not whatever it was, we went from underground Jew tunnels, Mossad, the Trump administration killed Charlie Kirk.

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Just really needed to just take a breather and really process everything that happened with Charlie and what it kind of means in, in terms of where we are. And I think it is a circumstance where we all, we just know, we just know that he was truly betrayed in one of the most egregious ways that I think I've ever seen. It has made me lose faith in politics. It has made me fully lose faith in Trump. And I just like, I just, my heart aches for the fact that he gave so much of his life to Trump and to politics and they just were like, Nope, that is it. It serves us or it doesn't serve us and we wanna move on. And so here's a holiday, bro.

9 (8m 45s):
If they try to give me a holiday, what is with them giving people a holiday after they kill them? Why is that a thing? Ve now what? I mean like, oh, Martin Luther King, what about this holiday? What about this boulevard? Anyways, let me knock after like, like they're gonna give Charlie Kirk a boulevard. They already did. They did in Israel. They gave 'em fricking bullet. It's like as soon as they give you a boulevard and a Holli holiday, they definitely killed you. Okay? There's no question they killed you. There's no way. That's like their signature thing. It's like that's what they do. It's the, it's the fed signature. It's they sign off after they murder you. You like holiday in a boulevard and it's never on the nice side of town either. Like Charlie Kirk Boulevard is not gonna be a nice side of town. Anyways, I'll be back on the 27th You guys. Thank you guys for all the support throughout these couple of weeks.

9 (9m 26s):
These last really kind of six weeks since Charlie died and we will see you guys then.

8 (9m 33s):
Well let me first be tactful here and and tell you that outrageous claims, and this is an outrageous claim, require outrageous evidence. Of course, as is par for the course, none has been presented. Ve now who's really close to President Trump and ve now who people are now saying stood to gain. Well, Charlie's wife, Erica Kirk, who has now been put Candace with that language with this accusation has put the wife of Charlie Kirk and she'll say, that's not what I try to do. It is, it's the result. Erica Kirk in the crosshairs. There's no middle ground here right now either Erica Kirk is evil and was in on it.

8 (10m 22s):
Or Candace Owens is an evil.

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1 (10m 59s):
No matter how many times I watched that clip of me talking about Martin Luther King Boulevard and Charlie Kirk Boulevard, I do not get from that, that Erica Kirk killed her husband, but that's what they went with. Those were talking points that were delivered to them. They were supposed to go outta the gate with that. The question is why, okay, retrospectively, that was a clue. They were panicking. They were trying to pretend me saying that everyone betrayed him, which obviously was not about Erica. It also wasn't about Charlie's mother or Charlie's father or Charlie's children, but they were specifically trying to struggle session that into a slight against Erica rather than more obviously suggesting that people at Turning Point USA betrayed him, which Erica Kirk was not an employee of leading up to his death.

1 (11m 42s):
Why were they doing that? Then? Of course that made me only look further into the Egyptian planes and I discovered that the planes had been tracking Charlie. We showed you guys this, right? We created this document and we organized it S-U-B-N-D being the blue plane and then tail number S-U-B-T-T being the yellow plane. That seems to have struck even more fear into the nest of Mockingbird. In fact, they sent Mother Mockingbird out Ben Shapiro to make the exact same wild allegation out of thin air that I said something specifically about Erica when I had not, again, I'll ask the question. Why Erica? Why didn't Ben on stage say she accused Mikey or Rob McCoy?

1 (12m 24s):
I've done multiple episodes now on Mikey McCoy on Rob McCoy, speaking about Andrew Covet, Alex Clark. Why were they kept, why did they keep going back to Erica? What is it about these Egyptian planes that were making them spiral? Now, I'm gonna let you guys know right now that it is difficult to investigate a matter, especially when it involves a person that ve now, because there are minor things that I immediately notice that we're off or unlikely that would not have necessarily alarmed the general public. For example, one of the earliest alarms that went off for me was the fact that Terrell Farnsworth, the guy who takes out the SD cards, was there at all, okay? Terrell does not do college campus events. He doesn't do that.

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He's at the top of the company. He does the big events, the SaaS, the AM Fest. He does not do college events, but of course he told me they were trying something new that day and it must have been so new that it was over by the next event after Charlie died because he wasn't there again. So he just out of the blue was at this event and then he wasn't and he secured the SD cards, okay? It was something that I noticed that the rest of the world would not have taken as a concrete fact. It is also how I felt, and I'm sharing this with you now for a reason. When I learned that Charlie flew into Salt Lake City that morning because why didn't he fly into the much closer Provo Airport? Now, ostensibly the answer is because he had an interview with a person that nobody really knows.

1 (13m 47s):
He's a managing director of a restaurant fund. Andrew K. Smith, out of nowhere does this autology interview with Charlie, and so Charlie flew into Salt Lake to make this interview happen. That to me felt like an oddity, okay? Because in a typical scenario, Charlie is not going to be incentivized to go out of his way because there's, he would only do it actually if there was a, a big donor on the hook, and maybe that's what he was told. This guy's gonna give a ton of money to turning point USA or B because it was a major political person. Otherwise, for the sake of a podcast, people travel to Charlie, okay?

1 (14m 28s):
If you, if you want to get Charlie, you're gonna travel to Charlie to make that happen. He's not gonna go out of his way. To me, the common thing that always happened was they would set up an interview in an empty room at the campus at UVU campus. They would've had this guy in the corner and Charlie would've flown into Provo. So I felt, again, didn't share at this time that they diverted Charlie Kirk to Salt Lake City for a reason. Okay? Something else you just know about Charlie is Charlie was obsessed with planes. He, my, my husband and him actually shared this in common where every time we'd board a plane, Charlie would know exactly like way too many facts about the plane. If we were boarded an old American Airlines flight, he'd be like, oh, they actually took these planes out of service in the 1970s.

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He just had a lot of snap effects when it came to planes. Something that I just do not dedicate any of my time into learning about. He really liked planes and knowing everything about them and more crucially, I want you guys to understand this. Charlie had a photographic memory. He did donor names, emails, numbers. Charlie Kirk was a walking Excel sheet. You'd walk into a room, he'd say, that's so and so, so and so, so and so, so and so. He works for so-and-so. She works for so-and-so. They gave this much last year. That is why he was able to turn turning Point USA into a successful machine because of his memory. It was unbelievable. That's all gonna be relevant now, okay? So you have to remember that Charlie landed into Salt Lake City at 9:23 AM local time.

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I suspect that if he had instead landed into Provo, he would have recognized the blue Egyptian plane, okay? It's not every day that you see an Egyptian military craft. It is now my well-informed opinion that he would've looked at that plane and he would've recognized the blue plane and he would have instantly realized that something was amiss. And now I'm going to explain to you very carefully why I suspect that it is highly likely that Charlie would have recognized that plane, okay? Tail number S-U-B-N-D, the blue plane, a pregnant mommy sleuth who was locked into this investigation discovered something that me and my team had missed.

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I consider her obviously and all of you to be my decentralized intelligence agents. Anyway, she sent me a rather urgent email and I'm obviously protecting her identity for ob, for ve now reasons that are clear, but I want you to know that this discovery is due entirely to her. She's the person that in this regard went max for Charlie, when I missed something, her email stated in effect that I was only partially right about the plane tracking. Charlie, that she had done an additional 15 hours of research and was able to discern that the person the planes were actually tracking for years was Erica, not Charlie, but Erica was the one being tracked by these planes and indeed it turns out that she was correct.

1 (17m 21s):
She discovered that between 2022 and September of 2025, both of those aircraft, S-U-B-T-T, the yellow plane and S-U-B-N-D, the blue plane showed 68 overlaps with Erica's documented locate locations, okay? 68 overlaps. I have since been able to add now 73 times that this overlapped, okay? And 29 of those instances also happened to include Charlie. Charlie was also present and that's what I was stumbling upon when I was looking into this. I was like, why is this plane where Charlie is, the flights were majority clustered within five states, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Delaware, and Utah, and it's a pattern that she believes is statistically not random.

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I'm telling you, this information has been completely verified. I am showing you this on a spreadsheet. Now these are all the instances in which this plane 60, all 68 instances that this plane crossed with Erica, and I'm also gonna say this includes overseas as well. Okay? So my instant question becomes why didn't turning point acknowledge that this plane was familiar to them When I was talk, taking all of these figurative online bullets, someone could have easily said something, right? That's kind of a repeat thing in this investigation. Josh Hammer lies, I get attacked Turning point just stay silent.

1 (18m 53s):
They know he is lying, but they allow the lie to flow. Alex Clark lies, I get attacked, I'm telling the truth. Turning Point knows it, but they kind of allow this like Catholic thing, cla lie to flow and the influencers are allowed to lie. Nobody at Turning point ever just steps to clarify that I'm onto something or I'm telling the truth about something and when it comes to these Egyptian flights, the math on this is indisputable. There is less than a 1e-08% probability, okay? Under random distribution models that these Egyptian planes coincidentally landed around Erica at these times, like I said, this plane was not just with her in America, it was also tracking her overseas as well.

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I flagged this 'cause I was alarmed because I thought it was tracking Charlie and I'm telling you at this plane, in addition to Charlie and primarily actually was tracking Erica, now let's get to the day of the assassination. On the day of Charlie's assassination, we know the yellow plane took off in the morning but the blue plane did not take off in the morning. The blue plane S-U-B-N-D did however power on, and I wanna be very clear as to what I mean when I say that this plane was on. I am saying that it was Transp bonding, okay? It it's, it's Transp bonding at the FBO at Duncan Aviation a private terminal. So at the very least they powered up the electronics at most it they fully powered it on and the engine was running.

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What we know for certain is that it did not move from the FBO did not move, it was just on and trans responding and I want you to recognize, I'm gonna make it clear for you what are the times that they were trans bonding. It's two times and I'm gonna tell you those times, but first I'm gonna have Mark pull this up and he can tell us what it is that we're, what we're looking at here and how we were, were able to find this information about the jet that was just sitting at the FBO.

12 (20m 52s):
Yeah, so it looks like, based on this information that I found, and I had to figure out how to use this website because my mother didn't take enough Tylenol when she was pregnant with me so I, I can't get too detailed on it, but essentially all the flight radar websites only show when the plane is actually in the air, but if the plane is on the ground and transmitting that data from the A DSB transponder still goes out. So this website, A DSB exchange takes that raw data and so I was able to find it on September 10th. If you look on the, the very left of the frame, it shows September 10th and it looks like there's just one data point, but what I did is I zoomed in and the the, the plane's actually not moving, it's just GPS is a little bit inaccurate when you're this close, but you're able to see all these different times here and that is the UTC time zone, also known as Zulu time.

12 (21m 43s):
So subtract seven hours from that to get Utah time. And so I tracked all of these down and I was able to find that the plane was Transp responding from 9:05 AM until 10:34 AM Then it was off and then at 12:40 PM it came back on and turned off again at 1:29 PM

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Okay, I'm gonna repeat that so that everybody understands. We were dis able to discern from this data as follows on September 10th on the day of Charlie's assassination, this plane first transponder from 9:05 AM plus 36 seconds until it was turned off at 10:34 AM and five seconds seconds. Then the plane turned back on, the transponder was turned back on just 17 minutes after Charlie was shot at 12:40 PM and 53 seconds and it stayed on until 1:29 PM and 40 seconds. So what was the blue plane doing sitting on the tarmac? We can only imagine what it was doing.

1 (22m 41s):
Okay, we can run a couple of options here. It's possible that they were just running a maintenance check. Duncan Aviation does offer maintenance repairs. It's therefore possible and it just chose to run some maintenance checks at an unfortunate time. Okay? Another possibility is that a military jet, particularly one from a foreign country, would likely be equipped with encrypted satellite based communications capabilities. If you wanted to make an untraceable phone call as an example, that would be a good place to do so because only the NSA would be able to intercept that call and it's pretty obvious if a deep state doesn't seem particularly interested in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, so that'd be a safe place to communicate on that plane.

1 (23m 26s):
Like I said, these are our options. What we can do now, however, is we can add this to our list of verifiable turning point USA lies because I'm gonna count this as a lie by severe omission, by keeping your mouth shut and allowing Candace to take all the figurative bullets as she points out the oddity of a plane that you guys recognized. Okay? My point is that these planes were known to turning Point USA and we all deserve to know why they were on the ground on that day, what they were doing on the ground on that day, and also why turning point chose to stay mom when every influencer under the sun and every publication attacked me for even mentioning the planes, making it seem like I was dumb, I was stupid.

1 (24m 14s):
Turning point USA is able to provide answers to these questions. There is more that I know by the way, but I wanna challenge them to respond to this. First, were these Egyptian military planes familiar to Charlie Kirk? It is a simple yes or no question and answer it carefully please Andrew Covet, spokesperson for Turning point USA because there was something very specific, Andrew, that you told me that happened when you arrived into Provo on the tarmac that day and it is now playing over and over and over again in my mind and it isn't adding up. Another point that I'd like to follow up with Andrew Covet, let's stick with you, is that in the hospital on that day you told me you were in the hospital, that you were told that there was a credible threat against me and Tucker Carlson specifically you told me that me and Tucker Carlson were on a list and that you were just telling me as a friend that me and Tucker should lay low and after you told me that, I ended our phone call and I immediately called Tucker Carlson and I said, Hey, terrified.

1 (25m 16s):
Like obviously crying all day and telling him that he and I have to lay low because there's a credible threat and it is now really living inside me that you did not tell me who that threat was from. I assume the feds told you, but I asked you the question, why wouldn't the feds call me directly if there was a threat against my life? No such call has come in. How is that possible? How could someone have told you that there was a credible threat and that me and Tucker Carlson should lay low and yet me and Tucker have since not been notified by any federal agency about those credible threats.

1 (25m 58s):
Threats? Who do those threats come from? Because I gotta tell you, there are a lot of people making videos about me and Tucker Carlson and none of them are Egyptians, okay? In fact, it's the Israelis, it is Israel that seems deeply upset with me and Tuck Carlson. They're not letting it go. They're making threats on every stage, okay? People that are tied to Israel are making threats against me and Tucker Carlson demanding that we be canceled. So who specifically told you in the hospital room that there was a credible threat against my life? I'm gonna need that information. Okay? I wanna know that now because the stakes seem pretty high and I have a lot of questions.

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This is probably a good time to tell you all that I am starting to piece together a another scenario that could have happened and there was another flight that I am now very interested in and I believe that somebody somewhere knows something about this flight, so pay attention to this. The tail number is N 5 6 0 TWN 5 6 0 tw it departed on the morning of September 10th from Scottsdale, Arizona and it landed into Provo at 10:06 AM am it then immediately turned around and departed for Santa Barbara.

1 (27m 23s):
I'm assuming it maybe picked somebody up and then it departed Santa Barbara at 11:37 AM for Scottsdale Landing at 12:44 PM There's a chance that you were working at the airport that you saw somebody that morning, maybe you were in Santa Barbara, maybe you were in Scottsdale, somebody saw something and I'm asking you to email us more tips at Candace Owens dot com. I am interested in that flight. We're not done yet. There's more. I know something else about the Egyptian flights this time. Another mommy sleuth. I learned that oddly Dunkin Aviation, VE now where that plane was Transp responding from the FBO in Provo sourced rental cars for these quote unquote Egyptians when they landed a couple of days before this operation.

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I didn't just learn that I actually have the license plates number for four of the vehicles that they rented. Okay? Honestly, you guys, it brings me great pleasure to deliver this information because now surely Tulsi office can get involved because ve now those darn Egyptians are added again. Those darn Egyptians here are before license plates of the cars that were rented. The first car rented was a silver 2025 Toyota RAV4. The Utah license plate number is T 0 9 2 ZS.

1 (28m 55s):
The second car was a white 2025 Toyota Camera, Arizona license plate CWNN 8 72. Don't worry, I'm gonna show you guys this in a spreadsheet. The third car was a white 2023 to Toyota RAV4, Utah license plate number TN one two km. The fourth was a black 2025 Toyota four Runner, Utah license plate number Z 9 23 DA to the students at UVU. Do we have this somewhere? Did you pull it up or just did you show them it on the screen? I didn't see it what you showed them. Okay, cool.

1 (29m 36s):
License plates were shown now to the students at UVU, please check your phones, your pictures from that day because if any of those cars were seen at UVU or around campus on that day, then we're gonna be able to suspect something else. Check if you hotels, maybe gas station, maybe you work somewhere. Look at those lights, look for those plates during that timeframe from when those cars were there until they departed. Somebody will be able to connect the dots somewhere and of course the email address to send it to is more tips at Candace Owens dot com.

1 (30m 16s):
It's only Monday, folks. I've actually discovered a lot more, but it's only Monday, so let's take a break.

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1 (32m 48s):
I have no doubt that Tucker Carlson and I are being threatened. That's pretty obvious. It's very obvious that nobody thinks Egypt is behind it. Ve now, the last time that narrative ran was probably the USS liberty. That was the plan, right? To make us think Egypt had attacked us, but it wasn't actually Egypt that attacked that ship. It was Israel. Israel attacked that ship. Israel is growing increasingly alarming in terms of legislation that they're trying to get passed, trying to censor our speech, trying to take over social media campaigns. Bibi Netanyahu's name checking me and Tucker Carlson and all their sickle fans are on stage calling us out. So I'm gonna connect that dot there and like I said, there was more I know about those planes, but you're a move turning point USA 'cause that's the last time you're gonna have me gaslit about something and sit by idly and pretend ve now nothing.

1 (33m 40s):
It's interesting too because in a typical scenario when somebody's murdered in broad daylight and they have like VE now a hundred million dollars organization behind them, it's common sense that you should check the people that work at that organization. Like that's like the first people that you should begin to investigate. So we reject your naval intelligence psychological operation where you tell us that that's a weird thing to do, okay? It's always somebody close to you and it if there's a financial motive. Yeah, and I would say an organization of that size that misses their deadline, their tax deadline for the first time. That's a little weird. Yes, they did a YouTube channel known as Wolves and Finance did a report on this, which I'm going to show now.

1 (34m 26s):
This wasn't people that I was working with and there is somebody else that I told you that I'm going to have on my show. It Hasn been looking into this for a while, but this was extremely well done and at least brought forth some big questions that I think are on a lot of people's minds. How does an organization that size just miss the, not just the, they filed for an extension and then miss the extension deadline to file. Let's take a listen to a part of what they had to say.

13 (34m 52s):
Let's go look at the nine 90 forms that turning point USA submits to the IRS every year. These contain their annual financial statements. When you look at the forms, there are some very strange anomalies. Several of the nine 90 forms are missing. Turning Point USA lists four related entities. There is Turning Point US, A Turning Point Endowment, turning Point Action and America's Turning Point. All different organizations do slightly different things. The Form nine 90 for fiscal year 2024 is posted for Turning Point USA, but it is missing for all the other three organizations.

13 (35m 35s):
It looks like it was never turned in. This is a massive red flag. So Tyler Boyer is being snarky on x.com and telling people to go look at the annual financial audit, but the financial audit is missing from last year for three of the four organizations. This strange decision to hide their financial statements happened four months before Charlie Kirk was murdered. I will repeat for clarity. Someone at Turning Point decided not to file three of the four of their annual financial statements four months before Charlie Kirk appointed a new COO requested a new audit and was murdered.

13 (36m 19s):
Those three financial statements are still missing.

1 (36m 24s):
So to be clear, that was another point that they gaslit me on when I told you that it was unusual that seven days before Charlie died, he said that he wanted to establish Doge, right? Tyler came out and lied and he said this is just totally regular and Alex Clark said, oh, every year since I've been here, this is what we do. And the guy starts this video by being like, you have to be an idiot to accept that as an answer. Of course, doing an audit, it has nothing to do with internally establishing a Doge, right? He recognized that something's wrong at the comp at the organization and as I told you, okay, because I do not miss on these things, he was not just concerned about where the money was going, he was concerned about where it was coming from. And what I can tell you about Charlie is that if Charlie got clued into something, if Charlie was at first trusting his lieutenant and then he suddenly said, wait a second, what's going on over here?

1 (37m 12s):
And he decided that he wanted to figure something out, he would have figured that ish out by sundown. Okay? That is how brilliant he was. If it had his attention he would've figured it out by sundown. What did Charlie discover is my question? Okay, now to correct something that he says there, he says four months before, that's the regular tax deadline. It is actually normal. It is for big companies to file for a tax extension, but they missed that deadline as well. I think that was October 15th was a tax extension deadline. They have missed them both and that is completely abnormal and he is correct. If you go back and you look at Turning Point USA's filings before, they always file all of them at the same time.

1 (37m 53s):
So this is unusual that they've left off three of them and I'm gonna let him get into deep into a a deeper clip here where he discusses the quote unquote missing 8.6 million. Take a listen.

13 (38m 7s):
Let us look at the one financial statement we do have for fiscal year 2024 for turning point USA Schedule. I shows grants and other assistance to organizations, governments, and individuals in the United States. This schedule shows you where Turning Point is sending its money. We see that a lot of money, $8,560,625 is being sent to America's turning point. They are sending it to their own shell company. Now this is not necessarily illegal except for the fact that the financial statement for the other organization is missing. We cannot see how this $8.6 million is being spent.

13 (38m 51s):
This is very important because there are strange variances around this money. I have polled the last five years of nine 90 forms for Turning Point USA Here is a table with contributions compared with the largest expense, which are the grants from Schedule I. You can immediately see a strange dip between 2022 and 2023. This dip happens because in prior years they were sending money to Turning Point Endowment. They were transferring millions of dollars. This stopped in 2021 and they started ramping up, sending money to America's Turning Point. Let's break this down.

13 (39m 32s):
First of all, I find it really unethical that they were sending millions of dollars to their own endowment. I know that a lot of nonprofits do this, but I think it is unethical. Do the donors know this is how Turning Point is spending their money? Turning Point USA is taking in donations and then sending the money to their endowment to invest in the stock market? In my opinion, they should be spending donations on operating their nonprofit, not on buying investments. As of fiscal year 2023, they had $61 million of assets in the endowment, which was generating $1.9 million a year of investment income.

13 (40m 16s):
Personally, I think that's an unethical way to run a nonprofit, but that's just my opinion. But what is important here is what happened to the missing $8.6 million. The amount sent to America's turning point in fiscal year 2024, the amount of money sent to America's Turning Point was getting larger and larger and because the financial statements are missing, we cannot tell how this money was spent. If we look at the prior year, the majority of the money was spent on other salaries and wages. How is this possible when America's Turning Point reports zero employees? Does anyone else think that sounds a little suspicious?

13 (40m 57s):
In my opinion. What I think is happening is I think there are fake people on the payroll. I think that paychecks are getting sent to people who do not really exist and that would explain why we have a company with zero employees with millions of dollars of salary expense.

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1 (41m 47s):
Yeah, that sounds highly suspicious to me, especially when you add in the fact that Charlie wanted to establish a Doge seven days before he died. And once you also add to the fact that they're all telling strange lies, when you also add in the fact that there was this weird psychological campaign to tell us not to look at Turning Point USA or we're gonna go to hell, essentially they're like using biblical passage to tell us why it's not moral. Do they think we are this soft and persuadable? Like do we look like the kinds of people that are just gonna watch an assassination in broad daylight and just let it go? Because some influencers insist that we do, no, sorry, it's not 1963. You are not gonna get away with it this time anyways, he then goes on to describe how they conducted their own audits using a firm called Baker Tilly.

1 (42m 34s):
I'll let him take it away.

13 (42m 37s):
What about Tyler Boyer's argument that they have an annual financial audit every year. If what I'm saying is true, why wouldn't their annual audit catch these issues? The annual financial audit for Turning Point USA Inc and its affiliates was performed by an accounting firm called Baker Tilly. In the notes they explained that they audited Turning Point USA turning Point action, turning Point endowment, America's Turning Point and T-P-U-S-A Merch. That usually means they audited all the shell companies when they provided their opinion that the statements present fairly in all material respects. That means it is a clean audit with no problems.

13 (43m 18s):
I wonder if Baker Tilly will provide an explanation why they can issue a flawless audit report when 3 9 90 forms were never filed with the IRS. And just to clarify, baker Tilley's audit opinion letter is signed after Turning point, missed the filing date with the IRS. So there is no excuse for Baker Tilley not to mention this in their audit opinion. Erica Kirk assumed the role of CEO of Turning Point USA on September 18th, 2025, eight days after Charlie Kirk was murdered. She has been the CEO for almost two months. She needs to answer these questions.

13 (43m 60s):
If someone has lied on the nine 90 form, people go to jail for that. I want some explanation of why Turning Point USA sent $8.6 million to their Shell company and then did not file financial statements. And Erica, I don't know who does the accounting at Turning point, but if they have not been telling you about any of this, you need to fire your accountants immediately.

1 (44m 29s):
I think all valid points, and again just to modify it is possible that when they used that outside auditor that they showed them all of the documentation and then they gave 'em a clean bill of health and then for whatever reason Turning Point decided not to file. It's possible, okay? Like I said, probably low probability, but it is plausible that they did that. But it is just a fact that they missed the filing extension deadline. So what's going on here? Where, where did the 8.5 million go? And what's also compelling about this video, which we didn't show, is that he clarifies a turning point. USA actually decreased their staff, the 5 0 1 C3 arm, 33% by 33%.

1 (45m 9s):
So there was a 33% staff reduction and yet the cost of salaries somehow went up. And to him that looks suspicious. And I agree that looks suspicious, right? And this of course is the kind of pressure that needs to be put on them. Yes, I said it was a very bad idea right off the bat for Erica who's grieving her husband to then instantly become a chairman of the CEO because these are valid questions now that people are asking and a chairman and a CEO is going to have to respond to those questions. There's you, you have to answer these questions when people are asking about money, especially given the fact that so many people, I mean they cleared over $70 million in the first couple of weeks after Charlie was assassinated.

1 (45m 51s):
Okay? That's a lot of well-meaning people that are giving money to this organization who are now learning how this organization functions by routing the bulk of their money or to a lot of their money rather not the bulk of it into their endowment fund, right? That is not okay. We deserve answers to the questions that we are asking and we're going to keep asking them, okay? We're going to keep asking them because I know there are snakes at Turning Point USA and I'm going to reveal more to you guys tomorrow. First take a quick break and we'll be back with some comments and answers to your questions.

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1 (48m 14s):
Okay, I got a text from one of my friends that says slight detail, but in September, don't forget there was a daylight saving time switch. So to calculate the time that we said on Charlie assassination, it was UTC minus six, not minus seven. So for those times you're going to adjust them one hour forward just to make that clear because that will be the headline on X. She didn't calculate that rights. It's a different hour because of daylight saving time.

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1 (49m 8s):
Okay, let's get to the top comment from last Friday's episode. Somebody writes, a witness has come forward to say that Mikey never even went into the hospital at all when he got there in his car. He just picked someone up and he left. So not only did he run away from Charlie when he got shot, but he didn't even go into the hospital to see what was happening to him. And this proves more that Rob McCoy was lying about this so-called blood all over him because we were thinking maybe it happened at the hospital. So where did this so-called blood come from? That was apparently all over Mikey because it wasn't when he got shot and it wasn't at the hospital. The channel it's on is the coach is Coach Collins channel who has been doing some really great content daily on Charlie.

1 (49m 48s):
Okay. I will say I did not vet that information. Obviously we, no matter what, pull the top comment from a previous episode, I did see something going around on TikTok and I can try to reach out to that person but it, it's an eyewitness account until we have actual proof. It's basically their word versus hi his word. So we'd have to see something to be able to verify that. But everyone, by the way, I wanna say to all the YouTubers, even if you're making small mistakes, the way that this works is they wanna make you feel insecure. They wanna make you feel dumb, stupid and ugly for thinking. And you have to find within yourself the like the confidence to keep going, right? Because you are watching how they tried to, it was so sinister the way that they have been attacking me from the second that Charlie got shot and trying to make us think that we're crazy for recognizing that everything is wrong about this day.

1 (50m 37s):
That's a psychological campaign. That is what the war is nowadays. And I wanna just encourage all the YouTubers and all the mommy slews. I just, this is really, this is Project mommy sleuth really to keep going to keep sending us emails and we are gonna solve this thing. The decentralized intelligence agency is going to solve this thing. And like I said, when I tell you what I know tomorrow it's just we're we're getting somewhere you guys, we are getting somewhere one day at a time. We are getting somewhere. Okay, what else do we have? We have a comment from the paleo rides, right? Hi Candace, I know you are on the right track.

1 (51m 17s):
I've been watching Daily and I was active on X well until I called out Israeli propaganda and then I was permanently suspended. I had to drive from Arizona to X headquarters in Texas to ask for a review and finally won my freedom two weeks ago. They are bigly mad. Yeah, they are definitively running an operation on X. It's obviously military bots. Like I said, they boast if I make one mistake, it's like a trending topic for three days and then when I dropped truth they're like, she's never dropped one fact. And I'm like, we have so many timelines. It's like crazy to say that we have not dropped any facts. Okay, well it's like that's like so beyond insane to try to suggest that we have not dropped facts when we have been the ones breaking virtually every story on this.

1 (51m 58s):
And of course credit to all the other people on X web and doing the same thing. Ricardo Piana writes, because I know we are completely and unconditionally loved and everything will be okay. It sucks that we are losing real human beings to their games. Keep searching for truth. Yeah, we're stumbling upon it. Us Flagpole guy writes, mommy Max for the wrong side of the tracks, doing David stuff with her truth acts with class. You got me wrapping out here. Thank you for that donation friendly fairy writes, we all need a friend like you sending love from Australia. Thank you for saying that. Natalie writes, Candace, my heart is beating so fast. This is insane. Your strength is so inspiring and we have your back. Let's effing go. I know you guys have my back. And I also know that Charlie has my back because Charlie always had my back and I always had his.

1 (52m 39s):
And like I said, he knew, he knew that I'd be the one to defend him. And I would stand up to all of these clowns and all of these people who pretend to be pastors and pretend to be biblical and pretend that they're doing this out of like some moral authority. You are the worst human beings in the entire world. Seriously To hide behind a Bible like that, that makes me angrier than anything else. For some reason. Like to pretend that somebody pursuing truth when their friend is assassinated is some kind of an immorality or a quote unquote evil makes me sick. It literally makes me sick. I just, the nerve of these people, the thi like the things that they did, but I all respect them in one regard. They knew that the first thing they had to do was when I was in my grief stage, was to try to pretend Charlie and I didn't even have a relationship 'cause they knew that I would be the one they knew I was the anomaly.

1 (53m 28s):
They knew I had already said F the money they knew I had already said F the reputation. I don't care about the headlines. And 'cause they tried to incentivize me with all these things before they knew that I would be the one to burn it to the ground and see what came from the ashes rather than to side with a lie. So credit to them for recognizing that I'm built different new life plan rights. I was today, today years old when I learned that anyone can FOIA all flock, license plate, cameras, locations, and data points. Now ve now too, what is this a thing? Can you FOIA all flock license? What's the flock license plate camera.

1 (54m 8s):
We

12 (54m 8s):
Talked a little bit about that. Off air. There's a, a network run by a company called Flock of automated license plate readers that are dotted throughout pretty much every town in the United States. Let's

1 (54m 18s):
Go, let's go.

12 (54m 19s):
So let's go. I, I looked up the locations. There are some somewhat near UVU as well. So we'll see if we can fly out that information. Less

1 (54m 29s):
Effing go. Yes. I don't know how I missed that earlier. That is great news you guys. I know the feds are trying to cover everything. More tips@canowens.com. We have to be faster than them. Smarter than them. Somebody saw something. You have a license plate numbers. Let's go. Calice writes amazing work. We deserved answers and Charlie deserves justice. He's gonna get it. He is going to get it. This this deep state operation, ain't it? Zat writes. Candace, go Max. Charlie is watching. He is. Beth writes, Israel had a choke hold on America since JFK. Yeah. Trump couldn't have predicted this awakening. Couldn't he flip? He should resent the Zionist mafia for blackmail. Trump is old.

1 (55m 9s):
My investments matter less than legacy or his soul. Ve Now I don't have to assign anything to Trump. I I know that if I was at the end of my life, ve now like in my eighties as he's in his eighties, I would be carry, I would be caring deeply about my, the state of my soul. I don't know what's motivating him. I really don't know what's motivating him or rather what's not motivating him to get to the bottom of this. When the entire world knows that what we've been told is Bs Why, why is not Trump? Why isn't Trump calling me like on the side? And we're like, let's figure this thing out because Trump, well, Charlie loves Trump. So it it really tells you that politics, politics is fickle. Ve now you shouldn't have a lot of friends in politics and but rights. Have you seen the new Sean Ryan with the security detail that took care of Charlie?

1 (55m 51s):
Do you feel they're trying to push their narrative? We love you Candace, and we're praying for you always. I have not seen it yet, but I intend to watch it and I will give feedback on it this week without question. It's it's on my to-do list. Emma White writes Candace, I run ops for a nonprofit. Baker Tilly also is the company that files their nine nineties per the first page. Their audits are not considered valid. A separate company has to do an independent audit. Okay, very interesting that you're saying that. Again, we're reading comments live, so this is allegedly a Baker Chili. Don't come after me. But yeah, that video went deeper into some lawsuits that Baker Chili was facing for not auditing things correctly. Now, that could be commonplace if you are a, an auditing firm, maybe it's normal for auditing firms to be sued.

1 (56m 33s):
I don't know. That is not an industry that I'm familiar with. GAZF two five writes, I'm 38 years old and never in my life has a journalist been this transparent with Americans, the youth of the nation. This is the way forward. Candace Owens journalism is the new standard. We are pioneering something and we definitely are. It's never been done like this. No one has ever decentralized the intelligence. No one has ever asked for help and I don't think there's ever been a person. It hasn cared more. It hasn been standing against evil people who was leading the investigation. I don't think that's ever happened. I, I think we're making history. We may, we may not be here when it's celebrated, but we're making history and what we do today actually does matter. I know that and I don't care what any of these people say. I was clear, I was explicit when I said that I want war with all of you.

1 (57m 19s):
Anybody that's lying is going to get exposed. I told you I felt it spiritually. Charlie told me he was betrayed in a dream. They laughed at me. They mocked at me. Well, who's laughing now? We'll see you guys tomorrow

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11/15/25
From Britney To Charlie. With Pastors Like These, Who Needs Enemies? | Candace Ep 265


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3 (31s):
All right, you guys. Happy Friday. And I'm just gonna jump right in and tell you that somehow all of my investigations are converging, like literally all of them that we've done on this show. And I'm freaking out. I would've never thought in a million years that there would be something which connected the Chaos book, which I got obsessed with. And it was like, it's required reading for this podcast connected to the Braquet Macron case. I'm gonna tell you about that. Connected to yay. Me telling you all about what happened behind the scenes when he was effectively kicked out of Hollywood. And the reason why I refuse to publicly condemn him, despite insistence from the brood of Vipers.

3 (1m 14s):
I don't know how it's possible, but Charlie s assassination is pulling in all of these elements and we need to speak a lot more about the Calvary Chapel and also Britney Spears. Britney Spears. Suddenly Britney Spears is here. Britney Spears, and everything that happened to her is now increasingly relevant. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to Candace. I don't know how much more I can enforce to you all that we have to steal ourselves against psychological operations.

3 (1m 60s):
It is all about psychology. That is the name of the game. We are living inside of one big psychological operation. I am convinced I've seen enough. There's just no other way to present that information. It's a fact now that everything is fake and gay and dangerously so, and I was freaking out realizing that quite literally all of our investigations over the past two years were coming together here. Rashe Macron, where did we end up, by the way? Where did we leave off on the bridge? Je Macron. I was speaking to you guys about MK Ultra. How odd it was that of everything I said in my series, JIT Macron and Emmanuel had a heart attack when I started discussing MK Ultra, they brought it up 18 times in the lawsuit against me, way too many times in the lawsuit against me.

3 (2m 48s):
And I realized we were on the right path discussing this. It brought me back to that road. It brought me back to the Haight Asbury Clinic. We're gonna talk about that. And the program that they're running throughout California. Yay. When I said why I didn't speak out was because I recognized that he had done something tremendously brave and that he, the entire Mob Mafia descended on him. It was a psychological operation. They put him on a psych 51 50 hold, which is one of their strategies. And effectively he had been MK Ultra, right? By putting on that psych 51 50 hold Jeffrey Epstein. I did a miniseries on Jeffrey Epstein. We spoke about the blackmail.

3 (3m 29s):
We spoke about the trafficking through big companies. 'cause nobody blinks an eye if it's a modeling agency, nobody blinks an eye as he was. He was funding tons of mechanisms, particularly models and movies. Harvey Weinstein connection, I spoke with him. It was very weird that they took out Harvey Weinstein. That is a fact via the Me Too movement. And I had paused to the audiences that that movement may have been about hostile takeovers of companies. And of course, as we've been discussing on the show, Zionist Inc. Everybody understands what Zionist Inc is now. You see it everywhere. You cannot question Israel at all, or the descend on you.

3 (4m 10s):
Somehow the trial clerk assassination is bringing together every single last one of these themes that we have been exploring. So where did we leave off yesterday? Well, we spoke about the Cavalry Chapel. We spoke about Rob McCoy being the lead pastor in Thousand Oaks, one of their many churches across the United States. And my sense, which every Christian Zionist influencer under the sun is trying to ward me off of, oh, how dare she? This is, I can't even believe it. Bibe can blow up thousands and tens of thousands of kids. But Candace investigating the Charlie Kirk assassination is crazy. It's unbiblical. It only furthered my sense that faith had somehow been infiltrated.

3 (4m 51s):
Faith had become a military operation, or perhaps from the sixties onward. That's what it's always been, right? Too many instances, as I showed you yesterday of trafficking and sexual abuse. You have to begin asking the question whether or not this is since systemic and it's on purpose and who these pastors are working for. Then I get an email yesterday, which made me perk up a flurry of emails, actually, thank you guys telling me to stay the course because the Calvary Chapel was also involved. And Britney Spears conservatorship what? Excuse me. Now to be clear, I never got into the Britney Spears web.

3 (5m 31s):
There were so many tiktoks, so many people that did the research dedicated their time to it. I just wasn't one of them. And I will therefore make it clear that I'm not an expert on this case. I obviously could not have become an expert overnight. But after speaking with Kanye and being a part of that, being around him when everything went down, I got the gist of the fact that celebrities are very much controlled. What they can, what they can say, who they're allowed to date. And if they step one bit out of the carefully orchestrated narrative, something comes down on them and begins to control them in operation. I get the gist now so that we can have a little bit more of a gist.

3 (6m 11s):
Particularly who they were referencing is Lou Taylor. Lou Taylor apparently was very much involved. That is what has been heavily insinuated and even by Britney Spears herself got involved and pushed for this conservatorship. It hasn that is what has been alleged. I'm going to allow Brett Cooper, I'm just gonna rip this content from her show. Hopefully she doesn't mind to explain how Britney Spears was effectively infiltrated. Take a listen.

4 (6m 43s):
We need to understand a little more of Lou Taylor's history. So Lou Taylor became involved with Britney Spears in 2007 after she was hired to help manage Jamie Lynn Spears. And this was right around the time that Jamie got pregnant. Now, somehow no one really knows, I mean this is not documented at all. She was brought into the fold of this family by their father, Jamie. This is Jamie Sr. And by 2008, so less than a year later, Lou was going on TV shows as the family's spokesperson to speak on behalf of Britney Lou

5 (7m 10s):
Taylor is the business manager for Britney Spears, father, mother, and younger sister Jamie Lynn. Lou, good morning to you.

6 (7m 16s):
Here you have Brittany that needs to have some security somewhere that every single thing she does and every single person she has a relationship with doesn't become an opportunity to be exploited. I mean, when do you ever rest in that? If you're constantly in fear of being exploited every day Jamie goes to work as a professional chef, asking the Lord to give him the strength to honor the people he works for in the midst of circumstances that Lynn Spears is a mother that is broken hearted just because she's apart from her daughter, that she loves her daughter so much, and again, asking every day for God to give her strength and for her to continue to have hope.

4 (7m 56s):
And her mom stated in her memoir through the storm that Lou and Britney's father had discussed putting her in a conservatorship shortly after that happened. So this was all around 2008. But the missing piece here, and guys, this is what shocked me, is that Jamie Senior had around this time, allegedly filed for bankruptcy. He had done this multiple times and Lou Taylor's firm gave Brittany's dad a loan of $40,000. Now we don't know why, but he had just filed for bankruptcy and this woman gave him $40,000. Now, within months of this loan, the conservatorship of Britney Spears was implemented. This was in February of 2008. But Lou and her father, even though Britney was apparently not able to function, she needed to be under this conservatorship. They kept her career going. Listen to this.

4 (8m 36s):
Only months after arguing that his daughter was incapacitated and therefore needed to be under his control, Mr. Spears committed her to an eight month tour named Circus Tristar. That is Lou Taylor's company was hired to serve as the tour's business manager handling its finances and accounting. And the tour grossed an estimated $130 million money that was now under the control of Lou Taylor and Jamie Spears, the father.

3 (9m 2s):
So she was mentally ill but not mentally ill enough to prevent her from making them more money and allowing them to control their money. So what we're describing here is effectively an infiltration. And instantly look Lou Taylor talking about God and prayers. That's a lot of what you start to see. And then when you look be beneath that layer, you start to go, okay, you start to ask questions, then suddenly the God people get upset. Okay? What she's describing there is effectively an infiltration, but it's gonna get crazier. And I want you to hold onto that idea of an infiltration because also yesterday after I covered Rob McCoy's, Potter, Potter's Field scandal, the one that happened up in Montana, where I described to you an organization, a faith-based organization, and I told you that, then suddenly people were wondering what's happening with the finances?

3 (9m 48s):
Didn't know where the money was going. Rob McCoy steps in as the CFO and there's articles about it. And essentially this organization sort of disappears overnight. Well, someone who was involved intimately, intimately with this scandal messaged me and said, Candace, no, you have it completely wrong because you're reading what's in the press. The Potter's Fields scandal. Potter's Field was actually a healthy functional organization. This was actually Christian ministry until, and again, I'm gonna say this is alleged, but I'm, I'm looking further into this claim until Rob McCoy got involved and then he intentionally scandalized it and staged an effective hostile takeover with a few other board members.

3 (10m 31s):
That's what this person is alleging. And they've sent emails and some backup proof, which which we need to go through before we can present that as a fact. But it, it piqued my interest, the idea of a hostile takeover designed as faith-based almost, right? Like we're doing the right thing here and we're trying to help, let's say the course with this idea of companies, people and organizations being taken over via scandals because the people who seem to get involved don't exactly have the qualifications to be in the C-suite or to be the heads of companies at all. And as Brett Cooper is about to lay out, Lou Taylor's qualifications are somewhat lacking. Take it away again, Brett Cooper.

4 (11m 13s):
Now another thing that I think is important to understand about Lou Taylor is that Lou is not a talent manager. She's not here to just oversee brands or help deals be made. She's not like an agent or that kind of thing. She was playing the role of business manager, which is a financial role even though Lou Taylor had no financial background, she was not even an accountant. And most business managers, my business manager is an accountant. Lou Taylor actually started her career in a church working alongside her husband, who at the time was a pastor and Calvary Church in Brentwood, California. And interestingly enough, according to financial documents that are in the public domain, Jamie Sr was giving 10% of his income that he was making off of Britney Spears from the conservatorship to the church where Lou Taylor's husband was a pastor.

4 (11m 57s):
Read this. Mr. Spears at times gave 10% of his conservatorship income to the Taylor's Calvary Chapel Brentwood, a practice known as tithing. According to a 2010 financial document, Mr. Spears gave tens of thousands of dollars in one year alone to the church, which is about 500 miles away from where he lives in Louisiana. Now obviously since then, all of this information has come out and Brittany has now accused Lou of playing a major role in her exploitation. And even though Lou denies all of this and continues to deny everything through emails obtained through Brittany's trials, it is clear that in some way Lou was involved. This is from the LA Times, Britney Spears' lawyer, emails show ex-business manager helped set up conservatorship. And in recent years, Britney has even gone so far as to accuse her father in lieu of allegedly having an affair and unlawfully using her money to fund trips of their own.

4 (12m 44s):
This headline from Daily Mail reads, Britney Spears accuses dad, Jamie, of having an affair with her ex-business manager, Lou Taylor, and claims he charged her estate for the pairs trip to the Holy Land to get baptized. And guys, this is not Lou's only controversy, she has not just wrapped up in the Britney Spears world. Just a couple of years ago, the New Yorker reported that she also tried to place Courtney Love and Lindsay Lohan into Conservatorships.

3 (13m 7s):
Oh, we're going to get there because as I started falling, I'm like the Calvary Church again, suddenly involved. And that part that she's mentioning about the tithing since I put onto my Instagram stories that what is this? You're telling me that this woman, Lou Taylor also was involved in the Calvary Church and I was not paying attention to anything that was going on with the Britney Spears at all. And I've arrived at this same conclusion that there's some sort of an infiltration that seems to be happening with Calvary Chapels and here, here's where we are. That's ridiculous. This can't be a coincidence. There can't be this many people that are having this experience and have this much scandal involving this church. This doesn't make sense to me. Well, I put this up on my stories this morning and two other people reached out to me who worked with Lou Taylor and described exactly what she's referring to.

3 (13m 51s):
The system of tithing that Lou Taylor makes them say 10% has to go to the church if they want to be blessed. I'm not kidding, 10% has to go to the church if they want God to bless them, this is why they should do this. And then also directing them to invest in other companies without necessarily revealing that they're involved in those other companies and that God will bless them and they'll pray over them. What is happening? How can there be this many cavalry chapel scandals and stories? She also mentioned Lindsay Lohan. She's not lying there. Well loved teenager, fantastic actress who didn't love Parent Trap when they were growing up and then somehow became addicted to drugs. Suddenly her dad, Michael Lohan, you might not remember this, but he got in front of a mic speaking to the press and called out Lou Taylor Take a listen.

7 (14m 41s):
When Lindsay was supposed to go into Morningstar rehab, they started to reconstruct everything there for Lindsay to accommodate her. Sean Chapman, Holly, Sean and Lou Taylor leaked that to the press because they wanted Lindsay to get out sooner and have her in UCLA so she wouldn't spend much time in a rehab. They're destroying my daughter's life. I'm praying that Dina finally, finally gets on the same page with me and does something about this.

3 (15m 9s):
Now Skylar, do we have the email, by the way, before I even get into what Courtney Love told me, do we have the email somebody sent me and I and guys just ve Now I blacked out a ton of this email because it's way too identifying and this sounds like a very scary syndicate in my opinion. So I don't wanna put anybody at risk, but somebody who very much knew Lou Taylor worked with Lou Taylor sent me this, which is interesting. Again, the whole top is blacked out, says I have since come to think that Rob and Lou Taylor's church is just a front for them and a ruse. I actually have many suspicions about at least Lou being tied to possibly the CIA and Mossad, all of the security that was hired under the name of, she's writing Black Box.

3 (15m 52s):
She means Black Cube security. That was also the security that was provided for Harvey Weinstein. Where is, it's really just the Mossad agents who now are mostly with the Kardashians. Now we're gonna talk about Yang a bit. I did go to Israel with Rob Taylor and a few other people from our church in Blank and know that they have many ties there. I have also heard that Lou has connections and ties to Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein, et cetera. I'm gonna say all of this is allegedly, obviously this is an email tip. I cannot, I have not confirmed any of that. The reporters trying to connect some of the dots and they told me at the house that Britney was being held out in 2019 was tied to Epstein somehow via Tony Blair. Britney Spears lives in Thousand Oaks, California, as does Justin Bieber.

3 (16m 34s):
I believe Ann Diddy, I believe has a house there as well. I know Lou Taylor built a house there and would find it very hard to believe that she does not know Rob McCoy seeing that he was the mayor of Thousand Oaks and is the pastor of the large Calvary Chapel Church there before Robin Lou Taylor, before Robin Lou Taylor moved to Brentwood, Tennessee. I think Robin and Lou Taylor moved to Brentwood, say they lived in Fort Lauderdale, Florida and attended a very large Calvary Chapel church there. And they were mentored by a man named Bob Coy. We brought him up yesterday, the pedophile scandal that we mentioned yesterday, who has since been broiled in scandal for sexual allegations and I believe had to step down. He mentored them in the process of starting their church in Brentwood 10 Sea.

3 (17m 17s):
That's interesting. It would be foolish for us to think that they, Lou Taylor does not know Rob McCort. She's exactly right. All of these people live in Thousand Oaks, California, and he's been pastoring that church up until July of this year for a very long time. And it's about to get even crazier because back in January of this year, someone notified me that Courtney Love wanted to reach out to me. So there you go. Brett Cooper has mentioned that Courtney Love has also had allegations about Lou Taylor. We all know who Courtney Love is. If for nothing else, it's because the media has convinced most people that she had something to do with the murder of her husband, Kurt Cobain, right? That's the reality, right? I, I didn't grow up with this music, I didn't listen to this music, but I know the Kurt Cobain story and I know that somewhere in the back of my mind, I was kind of conditioned to believe that she had something to do with this murder.

3 (18m 6s):
It was never explicitly said, but there was enough innuendo to get us there. Anyway, when I made contact with her, it was because she had been watching my podcast and she knew that I was obsessed with the book Chaos. It just, it just, my mind just exploded understanding how severe a psychological operation could be. The media being complicit convincing us that murders happened. I I, I ended the book and I said, did anybody die that night? That is how wild of a journey it is. The same year of course as the moon landing entire psychological operation. And you just go, what is real? What is not real? I don't know. If you have not read that book, you should read it. And I became even more obsessed with learning everything that I could about the sixties and the military grade MK Ultra program that our government employed in place after JFK was shot, right?

3 (18m 57s):
Actually putting journalists on payroll to control our minds. If you are new here, you absolutely must read that book. You have to understand how this thing works. This is why I put together my book club because it's so much that you just start to wonder what is real? What is fake? Are we actually living in a simulation? How could I have believed all of these things about people on the basis of what I read in the media? Because they gave you some sort of an authority, right? They present themselves as some sort of a, a authority or if they have expertise in this area that they fact check. And I think post COVID, we're all ready to digest that. These are psychological operations. Courtney at that time, Courtney Love told me so much information in January of this year. It was like she basically wrote me a novel.

3 (19m 40s):
I couldn't process it. It was information overload. And if she had sent that to anybody but me, someone would've looked at this information and said, oh, this is just crazy. She's crazy. Truly. She's obviously insane because people that are outside of the Hollywood Matrix cannot grasp or comprehend what goes on inside of it. It's spiritual. It's spiritually so offensive that we go, there's no way all of this can be going on. And then you join my book club and you read Hollywood Babylon, you're like, oh, this is actually how the system was built in Hollywood. It was built off of this stuff. So why, while I personally did not understand the nature of what goes on inside of Hollywood, I did start to understand it after everything happened with Ye Okay, I saw it up close and even I thought ye was crazy or like having, like was being hysterical when he turned around to me in my house and he said, when all that was going down and Adidas was canceling him and Gap was canceling him, he was like, are you an OP two?

3 (20m 34s):
Are you an OP two? And I was like, what on earth are you talking about? Until I fully came to realize what he meant, it started with that book Chaos. And I've just done so much research since now I fully understand what he was saying when he was asking me that question. If I was also an op, right? Everything then happened to me 2024. And I am certain that Charlie was also going through that process as well, where you start to realize there are literally psychological operatives in your life. He's, he was asking me, yay, are you a part of the psychological operation that is meant to control me? Are you one of these handlers that's meant to stop me from breaking out of this effective mental prison?

3 (21m 16s):
I'm realizing something's wrong and everyone's telling me there's something wrong with me when I'm saying, no, this is, there's something wrong with this, right? Why are you trying me think I'm crazy and I'm, I'm going back to my own thing for tweeting that genocide is always wrong. The operatives are right. Oh, don't you under see how that that could have been antisemitic, right? So don't you understand, Charlie, if you go down this route of perfect sense, if you go down this route, you're gonna lose millions of dollars. That is what he is referring to, right? Are you an op now Courtney Love, this is in January and in February of this year, I have all this in writing effectively wrote, explaining to me exactly how the operation functions and why.

3 (21m 57s):
She explained to me that she was a toddler and she was experimented on at the Haight Asbury Clinic. For those of you Haight Asbury, it's just, it's, it's the intersection where they had this clinic and the hippies came. And this is when the CIA was just dosing them intentionally. 'cause they were, they wanted to understand how to control minds. This was their focus was how do we control like mass experimentation? How do we brainwash people? And they were experimenting on hippies when they did this. And Courtney, who was writing a book on this, so I don't, I'm not exposing anything, told me that she was given LSD at this age. This is how she grew up. She grew up in this area and she told me I did not kill Kurt Cobain.

3 (22m 38s):
That was a part of a psychological operation to make the masses look away from what the CIA was guilty of. And she then told me through a lot of messages that at the core of all of this is ownership. Ve now goodbye to your idea of a meritocracy. That you can climb the ladder and become a billionaire yourself. Actually, the best way to understand it is that when companies or individuals get too big and become too powerful, they send their agents to control them, to control them, to make sure that they are able to control their messaging. And if they cannot control those individuals, they will stage some sort of a hostile takeover of that brand or of that company or of that particular person.

3 (23m 21s):
And there's a number of ways that that can be accomplished. First and foremost, the psychosis. Oh my, she's having a mental breakdown. She needs a break. She's really tired. Britney's been put on a psych. 51 50 hold Kanye. He said he was just reading a Bible and Harley pastor Nick. And we got into his backstory and MK Ultra suddenly puts him in a hospital on a psych 51 50 hold. And somehow his wife, I guess, was cool with that at the time being Kim Kardashian, also, of course wacko jacko. The media gets involved in this, blaring out to the public. Don't look at what's happening behind the scenes. 'cause this person's just absolutely crazy. They, they're doing this to me right now. Obviously you guys see us every single day. She's lost us. She's gone off the deep end.

3 (24m 2s):
Thank you. That's where I'd like to be. I don't wanna be in the shallow end, my friends. Yeah, let's get deep on these topics. Another way that they accomplish this is via Lawfare. They will bankrupt you. Okay? This is why what's happening to Elijah Schaffer, this is relevant. This is one of their strategies. When they want you to shut up, they will effectively bankrupt you. Your consequence will be that you have no more money. And Michael Jackson, despite the fact that he was beating Sony, he was owning his own catalog and almost owned the Beatles catalog. And that's when they swept in and they took down Michael Jackson, he died broke, right? And the people who he was fighting owned his catalog. Actually in the news today, this is totally a God thing.

3 (24m 43s):
I saw Paris Jackson was in the news today. She's lost in court and she's still fighting over her father's legacy. It's insane. The very people he hated right now own his ca catalog. And he was beating them. And they lied to us about the pedophilia. I did a whole episode on that. You should look it up. Candace Owens, Michael Jackson. It's a shocking, true story of what they did and how we all believed it. And then of course brings us the next way that they accomplished what they want. The media a reputational assassination, right? The Me Too movement. That's what I was getting at. It was such an easy way to hostile take over big companies because even if these people survive and prove they didn't do anything wrong to these women who may be paid to come up and say he did this or he did that, you effectively have to sell your company because you, you just can't.

3 (25m 26s):
You, you're, you're so tarred and feathered reputationally that nobody wants to work with you anymore, right? Who buys these companies? It doesn't matter. Like I said, by at the end of the day, whether or not the allegations are true, it's how much damage they can do to you as a person. And of course the last way that they can hostilely take over your company is with an untimely death. Kurt Cobain Prince Michael Jackson. Charlie Kirk and I should also mention Bob Breyer. Talk about, talk about a, I don't know, timely or untimely death. I, I remember my chemical romance. You guys remember my chemical romance, the drummer? Well, he had an overdose at the right time, right?

3 (26m 9s):
Kind of a crazy story. The drummer posts this onto Twitter. This was October of last year. This is Bob Breer. He writes, easy answer for that. Don't forget that Lou Taylor was my business manager for 18 years. We just separated in September because the Kardashians are the slimiest pile of garbage on the planet. They make a shit load of money way more than I do. Kind of like prostitutes anyways, I cannot be associated with them. Maybe Kendall, because she's kind of real and has an SF 90 that I could drive. They actually have blood on their hands and I know everything. Well, we're never gonna know what he knows because he then died in a very mysterious circumstance.

3 (26m 51s):
This is people magazine, my chemical romance rocker, Bob Breyer's cause of death ruled undetermined nitrous oxide found near his body. So he died from laughing gas. It's undetermined. And if you read that book, chaos, the medical examiners are always in their pockets, which is really interesting when you have these, and again, if you read Hollywood, Babylon, it gets into all of these true stories of just perfectly timed deaths, which we're never gonna know the answer to what happened. Anyways, going back to what Courtney Love told me, and I'm looking back at these messages and I'm mind blown, she made it very clear, which to me, she intimate to me that this is a mafia, okay?

3 (27m 31s):
This is a mafia. And they seek to own everything, every inch of land, every business, every organization. And you can trip onto their radar by making too much money. Like as soon as you, there's like layers of this. And first they're gonna try to offer you a job and try to control you, blah, blah. And then if they can't control you, they will try to destroy you. And, but their goal is to just successfully infiltrate, right? Curiously, and I'm going to read this to you or else you won't believe me. She kept insisting to me through many messages that I needed to look into the quote unquote Mormon mafia, which she said sits above Hollywood and even sits above many Zionist Jews. Now, I wanna be very clear, because this can be offensive to people.

3 (28m 16s):
Every faith has been infiltrated, okay? We know that things are corruptible. This is not a attack on and saying every person in the Mormon church is involved, every person, the Catholic, every, no, but we know that at the top things get corrupted. It's just a fact. And if you are actually a person that cares about your soul and you wanna get into heaven, your job is not to defend corruption. Whether it's happening in your church, in your backyard, in your own home, your job is to try to root it out. And I'm sharing this text messages because it's crazy that at the time that she sent it, I was like, I don't know any of this. I'm not up on mention Lou Taylor. And I'm like, what are you talking about? So I'm gonna read this to you, okay?

3 (28m 57s):
I just took a screenshot earlier today. She says, you're missing the critical parts, the bright white and delight some the original knee fights. So who is it that doesn't drink? Doesn't gamble. But they run Vegas. And a lot of the Jews that are in Hollywood, Lou Taylor for Kim Kardashian and Diddy, Jay-Z, Beyonce. And she also owns the home church, church home to get Bieber from Hillsong I that I looked that up. That actually is accurate. It looks like she owns or sat on the bar board of church home.

3 (29m 38s):
I know Bieber people, people that were doing the videos about that know a lot. That seemed to be accurate and made no sense to me at the time. 'cause I'm, I'm not hip, I don't follow a lot of the Hollywood stuff. Then she says Christian non-denominational, but she's LDS, born and raised, LDS Bill Gates's grandfather, also LDS Polygamist, not hard to dig any of this stuff up at all. The corrupt fed who called off the 2006 investigations into CNB Bank for Mike Kurt's estate and Tupac. And then this is a question mark are Todd Nielsen, that firm is still massive, but he had to then go be one of the 12 apostle apostles to the new prophet in Salt Lake and with N Sign and NGO.

3 (30m 30s):
And she goes on and on and she starts speaking about this. And I, when I say I received this, I just had no idea what she was speaking about. I didn't have time to look into any of this and did not see relevance because at that time I was very much investigating the Brigitte Macron thing and was arriving very quickly at this weird backstory of MK Ultra and the Haight Asbury Clinic when it seems like a button was pressed in America and big psychological operations started to take place. And now of course we learn that this church that Lou Taylor's husband is a, is a pastor at, has this background that involves the CIA. They even explicitly tell the true story about all these hippies. Well, the hippie movement was not organic. It was not real. It was a psychological operation. That is a fact.

3 (31m 10s):
Okay? That is not a crazy musing. It is simply a fact that they brought this and this really became a way to ultimately attack the Christian faith, to divide the Christian faith. The story goes, these hippies decided we ve now give a fresh update to the Christian Church. But then it turns out that a lot of these people that are heading these churches have military ties, high up familial military ties. And I find all of this to be fascinating, and it has only made me focus more on this faith angle of TP USA because I am telling you that when that individual, it was at his memorial, I hadn't even processed it because I was so in the grief stage when they said that something in me woke up or they said it was just so strange that everything was about faith.

3 (31m 60s):
But like Turning Point USA was originally remarketing capitalism. And like I remember you and Charlie running around and I went, yeah, that shifted pretty quickly. And this is where we need to look. And the stuff that I'm learning about Rob McCoy and the fact that people that are supposed to be biblical are telling us not to do that. And it's completely crazy. And Rob McCoy's up here trying to, I, I guess you could say like launder the reputation of somebody who spent years in prison for a abusing children. What is happening here? Something is not right. And this is only the beginning. I'm going to put this out there because I think a lot of people now need to start paying attention to the Cavalry Chapel in whatever regard you're researching, whether it's Justin Bieber, as I just mentioned, whether you're looking into the Courtney Love thing or whether you are focused on the Britney Spears thing, you need to look here.

3 (32m 53s):
We need to understand what is happening inside of these churches. And I am definitively not letting go, obviously letting of this TP USA faith infiltration, which is what it looks like to me. We're gonna take a brief break and we're gonna come back and speak about the notorious bush that we left off lust left off on a couple of days ago.

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3 (35m 35s):
Now there's this whole idea that in the future what they ultimately want is for us to own nothing and to be happy. And we are seeing that play out right now. There's this push to seed an entire generation with this idea that they shouldn't want to own anything. They shouldn't aspire to ownership, they should just be renting. I even had a conversation with Myo Gianopoulos and we spoke about how that's kind of the point of making everything look really ugly and tiny and the walls are thin. Nothing is meant to feel like it's been here for a long time. Nothing is meant to be ancestral. That's been a topic that's been in the news recently. And I go back to something that was very strange when people were telling me what happened in the Hamptons before Charlie died. But Bill Ackman gave a presentation, don't forget, and told these younger people that they shouldn't aspire to own homes.

3 (36m 21s):
They should just wanna rent. There's no point in wanting to own property. Nothing should send to you a louder alarm that you should aspire to own property. You have every right to live where your grandparents lived, where your mother lived. Ancestry is very important and I feel that they're trying to wipe that. And we are somehow at a very critical point. And I don't know much, I've never looked into the conspiracies about cloud seeding and these ve now the burning of the Malibu homes. I actually think Spencer Pratt did some really fantastic work. Like Spencer Pratt from the Hills did some fantastic work showing that this is actually a government conspiracy that feels right to me, like natural disasters and then buying our stuff up dirt cheap.

3 (37m 4s):
And when I'm looking at this picture, this is all about ownership. It's like they want, it is, it does feel like they want to control and to own everything. Don't ignore that. Don't turn away from that. Don't think people are telling you wacky conspiracies. Our government is evil. Okay? Terrible. People who do terrible things are protected by our government, which means that we are being ruled by criminals. Criminals who protect each other. And I just felt on my heart that I wanted to say that you should aspire towards ownership. You are not born to be an effective slave. And that's what it feels like. It feels like soft selling us slavery. And we're reading, we're reaching this critical juncture. Anyway, jumping back into the Charlie Kirk story.

3 (37m 43s):
First of foremost, I actually wanna play a larger, I mean a longer clip of me and him speaking and, and replaying that clip. There's something about it now that almost sounds prophetic of him discussing what you would wanna do and what allies you wanna have when bullets are flying, take a listen. People have to understand that, that we, we live in a different world now, but don't think because you follow me or that you follow Charlie, that this has by any means been easy. There have been moments where I've sat him down and he thought that his whole life was over and was like, if th like this is, they're just trying to kill me and destroy me. And I'm like, get your, get your head outta the sand. Like we fight. We go on. And there have been moments that I've called you and said like, this is it. It's over. Like I can't do this anymore.

3 (38m 23s):
And he's been like, you get your ass up outta bed and you keep going. And it's so, so important for You guys to understand that yes, the the next day it always does get better guys. It gets better.

8 (38m 33s):
And here's, here's the other thing is giving up should never be an option. And also surround yourself with people like Candace, that whatever you're doing that can relate and that when you say, when you say something that they're gonna tell you ve now the truth and they're gonna be honest, but they'll also have your back. And I understand this might sound cliche, but it's so hard to find that, right? It's so hard to find that kind of loyalty that ve now the, the kind of the old expression is ve now when you're in a foxhole, you want, you want someone who is not gonna tell you that there's no bullets being fired. You want just to say where the bullets are coming from, right? Yeah. Yeah.

3 (39m 7s):
That's exactly right.

8 (39m 7s):
Ve now, yeah, you don't want someone in the foxhole with you being like, well you wanna get a hot dog, right? Maybe a burger or a smoothie. You wanna say, no, no, no. There's machine gun nest over there, right? There's mortar shells coming from there, right? Well, here's what we're gonna do to be able to get,

3 (39m 19s):
Here's the plan of action to get out of this.

8 (39m 20s):
Exactly right? And, and, and that's the type of friend that you want. And you definitely don't want one that's gonna run for the hills behind you, right? Yeah. And you're alone. We've had those,

3 (39m 27s):
We've had those. We definitely know who our allies are first and foremost. I watched this and it made me feel great to hear that from him. Like, we gotta keep fighting and you got this. The second thing though is it infuriated me because it is just talk about a psychological operation. They moved in to try to rewrite history and convince masses that Charlie Kirk and I weren't friends. I will never get over that. I will actually never get over how absolutely insane and deranged the media is. They tried to invert reality. Actually. People that weren't his friends were suddenly pretending that they were his friends and his supporters.

3 (40m 9s):
We, I just will never forgive them for that. That is insane. What we're saying there is important. Loyalty is hard. And I was amazed re-watching that ending the way he describes a person behind him, walking, walking away, almost wild, considering Mikey McCoy, the amazing Mikey McCoy, the not so amazing Mikey McCoy. And then he says this, he, he points over to the left there and I'm now thinking, well, if he was right about what was happening behind him, what if there was something going on on the left now that I'm thinking about or what I brought up to you, which was that bush I have in the back of my mind been wondering about this bush. I have questions about that bush that they said Butch was talking to.

3 (40m 51s):
Again, I wanna be clear. We see him near the bush by himself. We have no evidence to show that he was actually talking to the bush. This is, these are eyewitness accounts on that day. And I just feel that maybe something may have been going on into that in, in that bush right now, there is an individual that I have had questions about and I have tried to discern through private means who this individual is. And I have had no luck. So I'm going to ask the public for help because he's had my attention for a while, foremost because throughout the event I noticed that he was halfway standing in the bush.

3 (41m 31s):
Obviously I've looked at so much content, different angles, so many videos and he's kind of partially in the bush and I don't feel that it's necessary for him to be partially in the bush. It was not that crowded of an event. There was definitely space. The second thing that's compelling is that he is wearing a maroon shirt. And when Charlie goes down, he stood out to me because everyone ducks, but he just sort of keeps standing and seems to go inward into the bush and then out of the bush. And then I saw him from behind and he is very calm. He never ducks. And then he sort of calmly walks away. I wanna be clear, does not mean he's guilty of anything. But I like to speak to him 'cause he might have some more insight as to what was going on in that bush.

3 (42m 15s):
So first, regarding that bush, many of you guys emailed us and pointed to the fact that when the shooting happens, there's suddenly people on the side that are directing you saying Go, go, go. Almost like they're actually maybe kind of protecting the bush. That might not be the circumstance, but we're gonna show that clip anyway of a guy that does actually, as we looked, seem to be directing traffic away from the bush. Take a look at this. I don know who's been shot. Let's see right there on the side. You got people on the side there standing pointing away. Okay, yeah. And there's someone in there like texting in a blue shirt. Now that could be because there's a shooting and they, that's a safe spot to be in and somebody can't see you.

3 (42m 59s):
Maybe that's why you're doing that. Doesn't mean anything, but I'm just pointing that out because we have to gather evidence that we're never gonna get from the feds. The second thing that I want to show you is what I just described, which is the clip of the person that I'm looking for who doesn't duck and calmly walks away. This is that individual. This is the front angle. You see that circle right there. You keep playing that I've watched from other angles. Never goes down, goes, walks out of the bush. And I know that the police were looking for someone in a room shirt immediately after because somebody shared text messages with me that I did not publicize.

3 (43m 41s):
'cause I didn't want to. I just felt, felt that it would go back to that source. Now, this individual I was able to discern was in a photo with somebody else who's caught my attention. Of course, the media began playing. They had all of this, all of these clips of what happened. And there was one individual who was Indian who they got a lot of the footage from that day from. And what's interesting about this guy, Samir, who's very public, he's been covering everything, is he was not a Charlie Kirk fan. He somehow has a lot of footage and somehow immediately gave this footage to the media. I reached out to him privately and I asked to have a conversation, asked to send his number despite speaking with the media for weeks, giving them all of this footage.

3 (44m 28s):
And despite oddly being allowed to interview Astrid Toez, I think a lot of people have done videos on Astrid Toez, the strange background story of Astrid Toez, the president of UVU. He didn't wanna send me his number. I wanted to ask him basic questions. One of the questions I wanted to ask him was, Hey, you are in a photo with this person in the maroon shirt. From that day, he posted a photo with him and the guy in the maroon shirt, and he makes it clear that they both went to BYU, his friend. I would like to know who Samir's friend is on the left. That's who I'm looking for.

3 (45m 8s):
You might recognize this individual if you do, and again, we are not saying he's guilty of anything, but he might know if there was some activity in that bush. Please email more tips at Candace Owens dot com. More tips at Candace Owens dot com. Okay, moving on from the person in the maroon shirts. But sticking onto this topic of the bush, people also sent me a ton of information about Butch Hibbs. Jack Hibbs brother who was here, and he maybe might have been speaking to that bush, I don't know. But he wasn't the only person, by the way, who was in that bush before the event. Here's another photo that was sent to us of a guy I, I don't know, maybe he's comfortable.

3 (45m 50s):
Ms. Bush, who knows another guy in a maroon shirt. I never knew. So many people, loved men, loved maroon shirts. I never even knew that. But we have another guy in there again. He literally might just be sending a private text, I don't know. But people sent us that and that's interesting. And on the topic of Butch Hibbs, we got a flurry of videos of him after this shooting takes place. He's kind of just like crawling the area. He's up and around where the shooting happened with what clearance? I don't know. You would think that they had secured the area and nobody would be allowed to go in. They certainly seemed to have crime scene tape, but some people were allowed in. He was. And beyond that, he is just acting. What I would say in a is strange, generally being shady.

3 (46m 34s):
And in this one clip, there's a guy who's talking to the media about what he hear, what he heard and what he saw and but is kind of just lingering in the background almost as if he wants to know what that person is telling the media. I'm gonna play that clip for you. You're gonna see Butch in the background as another individual is being interviewed about what he heard and saw.

9 (46m 55s):
Any idea? I don't know, I it sounded like a higher, it sounded like higher caliber. It sounded like a higher caliber, like a nine millimeter. It didn't sound like a 45 or anything, but I don't know. It didn't sound that deep to me. It almost sounded like a cherry bomb. Geez. Unbelievable. It was a gunshot. Wow. That's wow. I'm in shock. I am too. I am too. I can't believe it happened in Utah. Of all places. In all places. Larry has so much support, but obviously the opposition was here and now we're looking at a murder scene. Possibly it's for obviously a crime scene, but I don't think that Charlie can survive this unless the EMTs were close and it was, it was pretty, I mean, rated our level kind of stuff.

9 (47m 45s):
Wow. Yeah. Well thank you. No, appreciate your bet testimony. You be safe. Thank you. You too.

3 (47m 55s):
Now, he may have just been hanging out trying to get a ride, calling an Uber because I caught the video. We really just don't know. But I gotta follow this faith feeling. I have this quote unquote faith feeling I have and that's what I'm gonna do. That is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to follow my every instinct in this until we figure out what happened on nine 10 and beyond that right mahu, this feels to me like so much is being revealed right now. And the linchpin of this is a Charlie Kirk assassination and we are really understanding the way that our world works. So if you have any more information about Butch, some people were telling me that he was involved and I have not been able to confirm this information with the military. I know his father was, but it's hard 'cause they have the same name. And so if you have more information pertaining to that, please email more tips at Candace Owens dot com.

3 (48m 42s):
All right, you guys are gonna take another brief break before I get into some of your comments.

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3 (50m 39s):
Okay, how could I forget? I did not forget, I wanted to also address why I tease two things for you. Actually, that did not happen today. The first was not my fault at all. The person that was supposed to come on the show who has been basically effectively working on the finances for months, BA asked me to just wait one more week because he got swept up into something. So that was a cancellation. The second thing is the Egyptian plane, that the thing about the Egyptian plane is so explosive. Like I said to you, I had to try to get this to the right people in government, and those individuals asked me to wait until this weekend. The reason why they wanted me to wait is because this is the first time that we have the advantage. I don't know what to say other than it's, it's positively explosive.

3 (51m 19s):
That's all I can say to you. It and it's presenting this to the public. I don't know. I don't know what to, I don't even, there's not a correct adjective to describe what is going to be the result of reviewing that sort of information. And in many ways, we're still trying to understand it ourselves. So I wanna say Monday, but because I'm not fully in control of that information, I would say next week, tentatively next week. Okay. Top comment from yesterday's episode is funny how Pastor McCoy could so easily believe as he did with that guy who sexually abused a minor could so easily believe that the police, the feds, the courts, the lawyers and even the little girls were all involved in a conspiracy coverup against a convicted predator.

3 (52m 8s):
But questioning the assassination of his dearest friend is un-Christian and crazy. That's what I said, like if you wanna really see the psychological OB operation of Christian Zionists all saying the same thing, many of them are taking money. Obviously there's a lot of money on the line. Turning Point has raised so much money by themselves and you'll start to recognize these sorts of tactics, like just the, the hypocrisy, the astounding hypocrisy where they will just be totally mom on the death of Palestinians would be like, how dare Candace even ask another question and not accept the narrative. The feds have always been honest with us about everything. Something stinks. You are so right.

3 (52m 48s):
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3 (53m 30s):
I kid. Of course, yes. I'm sorry. We just try to get up to date photos. That's all. Ginny writes, hi Candace fellow Latin Mass Catholic here, which, which Saints Relic do you have behind you? There is a special reason you have this saint. Yeah, I spoke about this another show. It was gifted to me by a priest while I was out in Wyoming and it is from St. Michael's Holy Cave in Italy. So yes, I was very grateful to have that and that is a very powerful prayer of protection. Rayanne writes, hi, this is Rayanne from San Antonio, Texas. Thank you Candace for never giving up on the truth. You are Charlie's David, may God bless you and keep you and your family safe. I love you sweet girl. Christ is king. Go max.

3 (54m 10s):
Go Max. Indeed we are going Max Truth accountability writes, Candace, remember the devil is striking hard because God plays something powerful within you. Thieves don't break into an empty house. I, I totally agree with that sentiment, that thieves do not break into an empty house. They're overreacting to any questions. They're lying about what I'm saying. They're taking me out of context intentionally and pretending that we're doing all of this on the basis of a dream and that we never had any evidence. And that feels to me like they are fearful and they should be fearful. Whatever they are hiding. I'm going to find Christopher Jolly writes, Mormons are Christians, many LDS members like me love your work. Any crooks, please bust them.

3 (54m 50s):
We want truth. Wheat grows together. Until last day, the Book of Mormon a CK act, the reality oh acknowledges, sorry, I am not, if you guys, if you ever make a word shorter like act, I'm not gonna know what's acknowledges. I'm old. The reality and the danger of organized evil. Yes, of course. And I wanna be very clear that a lot of the stuff that I have been able to find out in this, in this investigation has been because of Mormons that I've been willing to go on the ground, to ask questions, to get me information, to get me phone numbers would not have been possible without these young Mormon students. So I'm incredibly grateful and I always just say that and remind people because sometimes when you're speaking about something it can feel like an attack, a personal attack.

3 (55m 34s):
And the reality is the devil loves to go in places where he can be the most deceptive and what better place to go, right? People are showing up to Calvary Chapel because they love Jesus and they wanna pray and suddenly they're starting to realize they're getting a political message. Something is not right with Calvary Chapel. I stand by that we lost, someone sent us an email and said, because I discussed Calvary Chapel's abuse history, they would no longer support us. Like I wa I've always been very clear on the topic of abusing kids. Bye like forever. I will never shut up on these topics. If something happens and it's relevant, I will always cover it on this show. Most of all, when I start to recognize that something happened at Turning Point USA and the faith movement seems to be at the center of it, it's very bizarre.

3 (56m 22s):
The lies actually, when you start to go through the list of Turning Point USA lies, so many of them surround the topic of faith, which is very strange. Like he wasn't allowed to be Catholic, he wasn't allowed to be interested in Catholicism. How weird. Why? Why is the faith part so important? Think about that. Why were the lies that were surrounding that that came out of Turning Point USA, which we were able to debunk so many of them were faith focused. That's a clue. I recognize that as a clue and that's what told me that I needed to hyperfocus on the faith angle 'cause the lies were unnecessary. Greg Bickford writes, keep calling them out. The power grab in the vortex left behind is just too desperate to be genuine. Yeah, of course it's not genuine. Even yesterday, the Daily Mail, their APAC reporter Victoria Churchill publishes an article, the most bizarre headline I've what all respect to Allie, the work she's done, Charlie Kirk's, TP USA Hess is how we're describing her.

3 (57m 21s):
Like what? Like, I'm sorry, what is that actually what, what op are we in right now where the heirs to Turning Point USA is Ally Stuckey. That is a wild headline. And they repeated that. The heir apparent in the Wall Street Journal. That's weird. That's just, it's, it's weird because it's wrong and it's not true. That's why it's weird. Not because she couldn't be a Hess or an heir to something I suppose, but it's just totally wacky to try to try to fit that in there. That's very strange. She attacks Candace Owens. The context of calling somebody, the Hess of Turning Point USA would make sense if you're referring to Erica, that's about it. That's literally probably it because she quite literally was the heir to Turning Point USA like she became the chairman.

3 (58m 7s):
But that was, that's weird. Like that sort of stuff makes me go, what the heck is going on right now? Weird psychological operation. Candace, keep fighting for the truth and be safe. I have recently realized we are at war and the direction that this timeline of the world is literally going in is at stake the fate of the future of America down with the two party system. I agree fully. Drew Cas writes Candace, I feel like the Zionists are trying to distract you by making you debunk their lies. We as the people believe you stay focused, my friend. Yeah, I have been way more fo focused and jumped back into it. The lies were just getting so crazy that sometimes I just have to call it out and be like, this is, this is completely crazy. We're just inverting reality. The Duchess of Camelot writes the Fentanyl crisis is by design, allegedly.

3 (58m 49s):
Yeah. Our boys were guarding the poppy fields and then in Afghanistan and then we got an opioid crisis. And the Sackler family seems to be the only ones that benefited from that opioid crisis. Certainly not the American people. And that is why I also say do not let your sons fight in the military. That is so disrespectful that nothing is getting better in our country and we are just sending our sons over to die for Israel and their borders expand. Talking about the security of the Middle East. We would have no beef in the Middle East if it wasn't for Israel and us constantly protecting them, them from the trouble that they cause. But I'm not gonna go off on a rant about that. Anyways, you guys, we also promised you, which I totally forgot, I'm sorry I had a crazy Friday, you guys, a long week homeschooling the, I also said to you that I would address who yelled at Charlie and I totally forgot to get the last name of that person until I saw it in the notes just now.

3 (59m 42s):
But that I promise you, I will actually have on Monday. So forgive me for just having a a total mom brain at the moment. It's just been a long week. Thank you for your support and we will see you on Monday.

11/14/25
What Did Charlie Kirk Discover Near The End? | Candace Ep 264

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1 (31s):
All right, you guys. Happy Thursday. Now, somebody sent me this throwback clip from Charlie and I back when I had a show on Prager. You, we were discussing the kind of allies that you need when bullets are flying at you. Take a listen.

2 (46s):
Ve now when you're in a foxhole, you want, you want someone who is not gonna tell you that there's no bullets being fired. You want just to say where the bullets are coming from, right? Yeah, yeah. That's exactly right. Yeah. You don't want someone in the foxhole with you being like, well, you wanna get a hot dog, like maybe a burger or a smoothie. You wanna say, no, no, no. There's a machine gun nest over there. Right? There's mortar shells coming from there, right? Well, here's what we're gonna do to be able to do,

1 (1m 6s):
Here's the plan of action to get out of

2 (1m 7s):
This. Exactly. Right? And, and, and that's the type of friend that you want. And you definitely don't want one that's gonna run for the hills behind you. Yeah. And you're, we had those, we've had those,

1 (1m 15s):
We definitely know who our allies are. I am resisting making a comment about Mikey McCoy. But ladies and gentlemen, we are definitively in the foxhole right now, and we are learning who Charlie Kirk's real allies are and who his real allies were. So Welcome back to Candace, Who were Charlie Kirk's real friends. That's what I wanna know. I just wanna know who were his actual friends and his allies, because somehow too many of them are trying to criminalize asking any questions.

1 (2m 1s):
Don't just ask questions, just accept the Fed lop. It seems a little bit ridiculous. We should start, by the way, with Frank Turk. Frank Turk, as a reminder, he is the pastor friend who was next to Charlie actually when he was assassinated. You remember he was wearing the white hat. He ducks down. He is one of the people that helped to get Charlie to the vehicle. He was at the hospital. Well, I just learned that Frank Turk was reacting to me. He went on CBN news recently, and here is what he had to say.

4 (2m 35s):
I have not followed Candace Owens closely. I know she was a good friend of Charlie years ago. In fact, when I first met Charlie, I, I said, ve now tell me a little bit about your ministry. Ve now like your, your what you do and ve now who, who, who have you mentored? He, he mentioned Candace Owens and Charlie would never speak ill of anybody privately unless he spoke to that person first and tried to correct them. So Charlie never said anything bad about Candace or anything, but I just find this idea that she's making all these suggestions without evidence, very painful for people.

4 (3m 15s):
It's okay to suggest, well, maybe this, maybe that, but as soon as you start launching accusations, T-P-U-S-A betrayed. So ve now him betrayed Charlie, ve Now I had a dream that, that Charlie told me this. That's not evidence. I mean, maybe she's, maybe she's right ve now it could be anything's possible, but not everything has evidence behind them. And what people don't seem to understand, and this is why I had my friend Detective Jay Warner Wallace on my podcast two weeks after Charlie's martyrdom, people don't understand how prosecution works, how murder cases work.

4 (4m 1s):
The prosecution rarely tells you anything. They have much less everything they have.

1 (4m 10s):
Okay, so a couple of things I wanna say here. First and foremost, I am loving this repeat talking point of people who claim that they didn't watch all the episodes. They don't have time to watch the episodes, they don't have time to go for the facts, and yet all of them, for some reason know that I said that I had a dream that Charlie was betrayed, right? That's how ve now that you are in the midst of a propaganda spell that they have been delivered talking points. I mean, it's such a minute point in all of the evidence that I have presented. I have done second by second timelines. I have done minute by minute timelines. I have presented webs of people and their connections. I have presented a list of how many times we were lied to by turning Point USA. They don't know any of that. What they know is that on one episode, CANDACE said that she had a dream, right?

1 (4m 52s):
Bally Stuckey just did this too, shoot a video and was like, I don't ve now I don't have these dreams. The idea here is such a, this must just all be crazy rantings every day Candace is up on this show like Miss Cleo from the nineties and just like predicting what she think has happened. It's, it's such a ridiculous way to, to try to de legitimize the research that we have done. Now, I, again, I don't know how you're able to comment if you have not watched what I said, but we are only interested in getting to the truth. So here's what I did. I personally invited Frank Turk onto the show because we legitimately want answers now to his second point that he is making there where he is trying to now say, this is not how court cases work. We're not looking to have a conversation with the prosecution.

1 (5m 35s):
Okay? We've already decided that they, this entire investigation feels like a bad fed operation. We are looking from answers from his friends like you. You guys can just serve public interest here, okay? We should not pretend like somehow the case would be put at risk If Mikey McCoy shared his call logs, how's that gonna impact the case? How is that? If you answered questions about why Charlie wanted to put together the Doge committee, how would that impact the case? We actually don't really care about the case because we're not feeling like Tyra Tyler Robinson acts alone and he's lone shooter, but we deeply care about whether or not and why his friends seem to have been lying to the public like we have.

1 (6m 22s):
We have found these lies. You can't undo that and you guys are refusing to respond to that. We care about whether or not his friends betrayed him. Okay? So dreams can give you some sort of intuition and I certainly think that mine gave me a lot of intuition, but now we have the facts back that up, at least the claim that they're betraying him now, right? By not answering very simple questions and by lying to the public. So I would very much invite Frank Turk onto the show. I don't think we've ever covered Frank Turk. He hasn't really come up in this investigation. He hasn't been caught in any lies, certainly. So I don't know why he would have an issue with coming onto the show to explain how prosecutions work, and I can explain how friendships work.

1 (7m 2s):
We knew the public, we all knew who Charlie Kirk was as a human being. Okay? Charlie Kirk has been assassinated, and what we are doing now is we are rejecting this idea that everyone who hit the stage at his memorial event can somehow now just be grandfathered into this organization, grandfathered into our acceptance, the these individuals should no longer be questioned. They're friends of Charlie Kirk. That's emotional manipulation. They say they loved Charlie, and so we should just trust the science and ignore the many lies that they have told us.

1 (7m 45s):
What exactly is T-P-U-S-A faith who is Rob McCoy? Why is it that these Calvary chapels have a long history of weird abuse and trafficking scandals that seemingly get swept under the rug, right? Why is Rob McCoy adjacent to some of these scandals? I'm gonna give you just one, I think big example here, okay? This is a, this is a true story, I hope I'm saying his last name right? Thomas Camino Kimono was a man who was factually put away into prison for abuse, molesting, lewd conduct toward young girls by pretending.

1 (8m 31s):
How we did this was he pretended that his cat was lost. Okay? I'm gonna read you an email that I received from one of his victims who is now an adult, but she was just an eight, 8-year-old child back in 1995. Here's what it reads in part, okay? I was eight years old living in Dana Point, California. When Thomas approached my friend and I to help him find his cat, he took us to a park behind my house and tried to molest me before I ran away. I was a key witness in his trial before he was sentenced to eight years in prison. He molested multiple girls between 1990 and 1995. Now, you will notice that I am not saying allegedly because he went to prison for this. So this is not you.

1 (9m 12s):
I'm not risking defamation here. She's not lying. We looked into this In 1990, Camino was placed on probation for pleading no contest to lewd conduct involving children in Manhattan Beach that's in Orange County. A few years later, he apparently went on a tear to try to lure young girls in an entirely different county. Okay? Let's read an article regarding that sentencing. Here's the headline in the LA Times. This is from 1995. As you can see, the headline reads, child molester draws an eight year term in prison. Thomas Michael Camino, who tried to lure girls with a lost cat story gets maximum sentence requested by the parents of three victims.

1 (10m 2s):
Listen to that. Three victims, okay? The article was on. It says Thomas Michael Camino, 31 years old of San Juan Capistrano, was convicted in May of molesting an 8-year-old girl and trying to lure a dozen others into sexual encounters by asking for help in finding his cat. Orange County Superior Court commissioner Richard m Ronson imposed the maximum term after the parents of three victims rose in sadness and anger to seek a stern punishment. The father of a 7-year-old girl who alluded that Camino said the cat ruse preyed on the girl's innocence. Camino's lawyer said his client, who had previously maintained his innocence, was now admitting his guilt. Attorney Danny Davis sought a shorter six year sentence, arguing at the maximum term might harm any chance for needing psychological counseling and rehabilitation.

1 (10m 51s):
Camino terrorized a Dana Point neighborhood for more than four months last year, prosecutors said he approached young girls, lured them into secluded spots such as a riverbed and the basement of a house by asking them to find his cat, the basement of a house. He was convicted of molestation, indecent exposure, and 10 counts of child annoyance. In the molestation case, Camino grabbed the girl's hand and forced him to touch her, to forced her to touch him. Now, I want you to remember that this happened across two counties, okay? I also want you to remember that we're speaking about seven year olds and eight year olds, right? We're talking about third graders, not toddlers, whose memories might be iffy, who might have difficulty communicating things, might not find the right words, might not be sure of themselves, but eight year olds who are fully online mentally, right?

1 (11m 40s):
Imagine yourself at eight years old in third grade. I have every memory of being in third grade. I have memory of traumas in third grade when a cousin of mine died in a car accident. Despite his conviction, despite having spent years in prison for these crimes, Rob McCoy, the pastor who makes my skin crawl, struck up thereafter and maintained a long friendship with Thomas Camino across decades. Now, that's not exactly a problem per se. Rehabilitation is a thing. The problem comes in when Rob then decides that Camino should be involved in the Calvary Chap Chapel Church, and more specifically that Camino should have access to young children in a program called Home Fellowship, which put him inside the homes of children.

1 (12m 26s):
And he almost got away with it until some mothers went online, remembered exactly what had happened and raised hell about it in 2022. Now, in response to this being discovered, Rob McCoy did not apologize. No, no, no, no. That's not how this works. Instead, you are about to see Rob basically employ tactics of psychological gaslighting. Maybe he learned this from his father who did this for Navy intelligence, right? But he is gonna host Thomas Camino for a podcast episode on the Bryce Eddie Show. He's gonna vent his frustration at the people who are up in arms about the placement of this man in, in close confine with young children, without people recognizing that, okay, this guy has literally spent eight years in prison for abuse.

1 (13m 16s):
This is how Rob McCoy intros Thomas on his podcast, take a listen.

5 (13m 23s):
I was so compelled because of the gossip and the slander of my friend who's gonna join me that I, I wanted him to tell a story. So 20 years ago when we were over at Skyline, the introduction was you walked in and you said, I, I need to talk to you and I gotta share with you. And you were just pretty blunt. You just laid it out there and you said, this is, this is what it is. And you, you followed the procedures, you did what was required of you, and you and I have been friends. There's been no issues. It, it's remarkable how you've served this community.

5 (14m 3s):
I personally made the call that they can make fun of us and they can claim whatever they want to claim, but I wanted your family protected. So I pulled that, I guess, I guess it was a advertisement for the home fellowship, which we do for all the home fellowships.

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1 (15m 12s):
So he's upset and he goes on to talk about how people online who don't know the full story are digging stuff up and like, this guy's really a good guy and I'm gonna have Camino actually explain what really happened that put him into prison. Let me know if you're buying this story that he's about to tell. Take a listen.

6 (15m 28s):
So this is like early nineties, the nice little beach community in Orange County, and I get accused of a crime that I did not commit. It's a A falsely accused, it's an underage girl thing and the premise of the case is there's a guy running around asking people about a lost cat. And this happens 15, 20 times over the course of six, eight months and the whole town is getting in an uproar over. Yeah. So they bring this girl and they film an interview after I got involved in this whole thing, we didn't know this was part of the thing. They just spring this in trial and it's this interview where the kid doesn't care what she's saying. She's not upset. She thinks she's waiting for her mom in a dentist office, and then they just keep asking her leading question after leading question and the kid's not giving 'em what they want.

6 (16m 15s):
Eventually they get her to say that there was some inappropriate touching on that. She sort of says it sort of denies it, but it's all they needed. Now they can go out and arrest somebody and it obviously don't care who they arrest. And the cops had lined up like 16 different guys of a certain look or whatever. And some of us, I was one of them were under surveillance, and so they had pictures of us and they got enough people to say, that looks like the guy. So they went and got me and they come over to my place with the search. They bring me in the search warrant over to my place and they have 17 specific items that they're looking for. They get 11 of them, which kind of sounds kind of bad until you read what it is.

6 (16m 55s):
I get arrested, so they throw me in jail and the next day you're supposed to get a hearing for bail. Let's, let's pause for a second. So they throw you in jail the next day you get a hearing for bail. They're nice enough to do it on. Okay, let, how long ago was this? Like 28 years. 28 years ago? Yeah. Yeah, 28 years ago. All right, go ahead. So they, I'm just saying some of these details because this whole thing is a total sham. My lawyer comes to me and goes, they say they have footprints, f forensic evidence, footprints and a pom print of yours that they lifted from a scene and they wanna cut a deal with you and they want to see if you wanna do a plea bargain before we get to a pretrial hearing.

6 (17m 37s):
Jury goes, comes back guilty, unbelievably guilty, and I wind up doing gimme an eight year sentence, didn't have a record. So you get a did four years to change. So I did 1,536 days for a crime that I didn't commit. It actually gets worse. So you get an appeals process and there's a free process. So they take the three main issues they can find that are breaking the law or violating your rights and they, they submit it. So the appellate court reads it and they say, yes, we agree. They broke the law twice out of outta the three points and they violated your rights, but we don't see how it affected the outcome of the case.

6 (18m 17s):
Dismissed wife divorced me right before I got out, so it's my ex-wife best friend and she goes, Tom, I gotta talk to you. You got convicted and you went away and your wife was dating your lawyer. And I'm like, the dating the public defender. How do ve now this she, she told me, so what incentive does the lawyer have to get me acquitted when he is after my wife and he gets her?

1 (18m 47s):
So it's just all one big a conspiracy that involved two counties neighborhoods filled with parents and children. A witness who still to this day remembers and emailed me to remind me about this. People who posted and said, this is absurd, and brought it forward into Rob's church and said, it's absurd that you are allowing him to be around youth despite his record, also his ex-wife and the appellate court, everyone, everyone just wanted to get this conviction despite the fact that the cops, the cops, as he said, found a footprint, a palm print plus 11 out of 17 items that they were looking for in his home.

1 (19m 27s):
You are free to pursue that conversation in its entirety like we're trying to include as much as we can for the sake of his podcast. Not going too long. It's just incredible. Okay. The person who took the stand still remembers and emailed me, but somehow he's the victim and Rob wants that to come across. He just, he's annoyed that this has come up right now. That becomes even more interesting when put into the context of the fact that Calvary Chapel full stop has a long history of claims of intentionally putting pedophiles in positions of power, giving them access to children. And I'm not talking about institutions get big, okay?

1 (20m 7s):
Like right now, if you even looked within public schools, you could find tons of instances, especially of like these young female teachers that go after high school kids, right? I'm talking about how would you feel if you kept learning that it was the principal at a school, like it kept being the principal of a school. This is by no means an exhaustive list, but just to be clear, but I'm gonna just tell you like a few of these right? Floriday Calvary Chapel in Pompano Beach, the founder was a pastor named Rob Coy, not McCoy. To be clear, Rob Coy, who was a former Las Vegas casino entertainment director, turned religious leader for one of the Florida's biggest mega churches. And then he got accused of molesting a four-year-old girl, Calvary Chapel of Woodlands.

1 (20m 53s):
In 2024, the lead pastor was arrested after a sting operation into online sex abuse against children Calvary Chapel Carey, the lead pastor, resigned amid allegations of incest with his own son, bullying drug addiction, and the misuse of funds. Calvary Chapel in Orange County, the lead pastor named Mission Viejo was convicted of abusing two girls, Calvary Chapel, solid rock that's in Minnesota. Jason James Taylor was the lead pastor in, it is on the border of Wisconsin, by the way. He was among six people who were arrested following a solicitation of minors. It was a sting operation that was led by Minnesota's human trafficking investigators task force.

1 (21m 39s):
Then in Santa Ana, California, there's a fellowship of Calvary Chapels, which includes Idaho, the North County chapel in post falls, Idaho. They're currently being sued by victims who accuse the church of intentionally concealing a known sexual predator in their mist. They knew his history, they hired him. Anyways, Anthony Igl and he's currently serving time, he's found guilty in Idaho State Correctional Facility for his crimes. The lawsuit alleges that when the victim's parents went to the lead, pastor Reverend Robert Davis to discuss their son's sexual abuse, Davis acknowledged to them, and again, this is what their lawsuit is alleging, that he knew of ILAs history and he stated words to the effect of, yeah, we knew that's why we pulled him out of Thailand.

1 (22m 27s):
Now Thailand, by the way, was some orphanage program that they were running orphanages everywhere. For some reason, these church are getting involved in orphanages and then there's a lot of these abuse scandals. Now, there's also the former Calvary Chapel pastor in Virginia who pled guilty to child sex abuse. The former Calvary pastor's name was Doug Deandra. He is currently serving time in jail in Virginia on multiple charges related to child sex abuse. There's the Calvary Chapel in Fort Lauderdale in 2019. This is not the lead pastor, but an employee who was arrested after authorities say they found numerous downloaded images and videos of child pornography in his home computer. There is the Calvary Chapel in North Thurston, Oregon, and this one's a doozy.

1 (23m 12s):
Okay? The lead pastor, this guy Jeffrey Keon zz, he confessed to sexual misconduct, which involved his three daughters over a period of two years. The incestuous abuse started when the daughter was 11. He went to prison for 11 months and then when he got out, he murdered an 80-year-old and poured concrete, 82-year-old, and then he was supposed to be her handyman and then he murdered her and poured concrete over her body to hide the body. Okay? Again, we're not even scratching the surface here. This is by no means a definitive list. I could go on and on, but I have to tell you that this does not feel organic to me.

1 (23m 53s):
Okay? Yes, institutions are corruptible, churches are corruptible, but this feels to me like something a bit more sinister and a bit more organized. It makes me think of the notorious guy, ve. Now I've, I've covered this in the past. It's why I did not cover the Diddy case. Everyone thought he was insane. Remember, he sh shot up the Trump, Miami Doral. He didn't kill anyone. But then when he sat down he said, the Feds are running a cartel operation and when people get into trouble, this is what he alleged. Before anybody knew anything about Diddy, he said, I was one of Diddy's sex slaves. And he said, I was Diddy and Cassie's sex slaves. Cassie then verified on the stand that she knew who this man was and that he had been in invited to these parties and he said, the feds, you get into trouble and then suddenly if you wanna stay outta prison, you're now working for us.

1 (24m 46s):
And he said that they were, he was alleging that they run drugs, right? That they blackmail certain people and they run drugs. Something that Kanye also said, an episode that's a virtually impossible to find online 'cause it was during his cancellation that he knew, again, this was before Diddy got into trouble, that Diddy had been blackmailed by the feds and that part of his deal was that he had to keep certain other people in line like Kanye. So this theme is kind of coming up when you start to see people who have been a, not just accused of crimes but convicted of crimes and they wind up in positions of power or in positions of extreme wealth. I think it's pretty fair for us to ask questions about how that is happening.

1 (25m 27s):
And now flipping back to from the Diddy Insinuations here, flipping back to Rob McCoy, that's not the only scandal that he's been involved in. He's been involved in a few scandals, right? There was also a Potter's Field scandal, and this is kind of really relevant to leading up to what he's doing now with Turning Point USA. I would say it's very relevant. Potter's Field is is an area up in Whitefish, Montana, and the Calvary Church Association funded a ministry, which came to be known as Potter's Fields Ministries. Right up there, they have a hunting ground, they have a camp for kids, they have a student program known as Ignite.

1 (26m 10s):
They even have like a burger chain. I mean, a lot of money was going flowing up there. And in, in 2019, the ministry came under a scandal with reports of financial abuse, psychological abuse. Essentially the cavalry Chapel church members were funding the ministry believing that money was going to help and feed and clothe children in Uganda, in Cambodia and Costa Rica and Guatemala, but apparently it wasn't actually going there. Okay? They thought their money was going to train students that were gonna become missionaries worldwide, but no one really exactly knew where the money was going. And this is interesting because they specifically ran a student program called Ignite, and one of those students wound up loing the whistle on what she alleges was intentional financial fraud.

1 (26m 56s):
That student's then student's name was Ken Kenzie Kinney, okay? She handled Potter's Fields, finances, and here is what she said verbatim about how this not-for-profit would pretend that they were feeding tons of kids worldwide, but actually they were having her engage in fraudulent activity. Allegedly. Allegedly. She said quotes. This would be a very high guesstimate of how many kids were actually in this program. I would say maybe like 500, and that would be between all five countries. Kenny said, Kenny added that the Rosell, that's the family that was running this program, would show videos with hundreds of children being fed during their presentations in order to solicit donations from Calvary Church members.

1 (27m 40s):
But that those images were from infrequent, larger pastor conferences. She remembered working with about 20 kids on a weekly basis. During her time in the program, she also said that potter's field workers were told to Photoshop old letters from kids in the program with the altered letters being sent out to donors. She said, quote, we would always have to cut off the dates so that they wouldn't know how old the photos were. Then we just photocopy hundreds of them and then just trifold them all and mail them out because we mail out these little things like, thanks again for your support and here is ve now a thing from your prayer child. They wrote you a letter amid the scandal.

1 (28m 21s):
Potter's Fields Ministry announced that they were shutting down. They shut down in 2019 and they brought in Pastor Rob McCoy as a CFO to help steer the ship of their finances. And by steering the ship, I mean that the money was transferred into his church. That was done above board. They notified the people that that was what was going to happen with the finances. But it becomes increasingly interesting when I keep insisting to you guys that there was something about turning Point USA faith that to me reads like an infiltration of short of sorts, okay? That is what it looks like to me. Something dramatically changed the organization that was about free markets and capitalism suddenly became faith. Faith, faith, faith, faith, faith, faith.

1 (29m 3s):
And you have these pastors and they feel sleazy to me. They just do okay. They're not honest. We have caught Rob McCoy in multiple lies, so I don't ship him as a person that you would want steward in your faith, and when you add in the fact that Calvary Chapel was the chief offender, okay? These cha, these churches, when they were all getting on on stage for Operation Mocking Pastor, where they were all saying the same thing about me and Tucker Carlson, it was they were the number one offenders. I am not kidding. You start to ask yourself what is guiding the the, the Calvary Chapel, right? What is behind this? Do you really think this is all just accidental?

1 (29m 44s):
Their obsession with Christian Zionism, Jack Hibbs among them, we mentioned him, him yesterday, his brother Butch Hibbs who was just everywhere before and after Charlie's assassination. There's like footage of him, which I don't think we have for today. I think we did pull it, but I didn't ask you to pull it for right now. And you ask yourself, I I got emails from people saying that Pastor Hibbs, Jack Hibbs has gone like masked down. He seems to be coming undone. He's hosting 5:00 AM calls against me and Tucker Carlson and they're realizing, am I in a church or did I sign up for something completely different? The history, the CIA implications of who exactly started the Calvary Chapel, which kind of became the offshoot of the hippies movement.

1 (30m 29s):
Chuck Smith is his name, CIA Baha character that was close to him. The implications here, when you look at all of the military characters that are involved really have me asking a lot of questions. You wanna know who was also asking a lot of questions. Charlie Kirk was asking a lot of questions towards the end of his life, right? He was asking questions, hitting hard about Jeffrey Epstein on his show. He was exasperated at one point saying basically, I've covered this, I'm upset about this, and you could sense that from high up he was being told to stop speaking about Jeffrey Epstein and he was pushing back on that. He then tells Tucker Carlson to go max against Jeffrey Epstein. For whatever reason, this guy similar to these characters had a history.

1 (31m 12s):
He had been convicted and yet he was still welcomed into every circle. He still is welcome into every circle. You guys still talking about Jeffrey Epstein. We're now getting these, these emails and it only further implicates this administration in an astounding coverup. All of this, again, the truest victims being the children, okay? We are a nation that is ruled by perverts. We are, we just are, and we're not the only nation, by the way, we're not the only nation. I would almost say the entire web of Western civilization seems to be ruled by perverts. That's the common thread between my investigations into Jit Macron and her strange relationship, his strange relationship with Emmanuel Macron, the fed level coverup, which includes a never before seen lawsuit, which is just meant to be propagandists, to make people think up.

1 (32m 7s):
There's nothing here which should let ve now that everything is here, you start to peel the layer of the onion into our Epstein series series that we have done, and it looks like they created Hollywood and fashion and movies as a means to traffic individuals, right? No one would blink twice if you're trafficking individuals. A bunch of women come in and they're in part of a fashion campaign, a part of fashion shows. Jeffrey Epstein had his financial tentacles involved in modeling agencies, right? He was involved in the movie agencies anywhere that you could cast people. That's where his tentacles were. And I'm not feeling good about these churches, I gotta tell you that right now. I'm not feeling good about all of the Christian Z iOS, Christian Z iOS that they are sending out Defend to say, don't look anywhere.

1 (32m 54s):
Don't pay attention to anything Kansas saying, I know she's presenting facts, but let's just focus on her dream, trying to make like a crazy person. Something very sinister is going on, and I am telling you, the Charlie Kirk case is like the undoing of everything. We are really starting to wake up to how things work, and I think that Charlie did not appreciate exactly how things were working, not just in the Epstein case, right? Not just in Israel and its long arm across the world. I told you Charlie was hitting at the Ukraine stuff. That was a part of my timeline. That's when you really start to see Turning Point. Faith ratchet up is when Charlie is going day in and day out, speaking about what goes on in Ukraine, speaking about the trafficking of kids in Ukraine.

1 (33m 39s):
He's just tweeting every day about that stuff and then turning Point, faith seems to just kind of take off like in a way that I've never seen, right? All of these characters who have very shady backgrounds, including Sean Foyt feels like an article from September 30th talking about the mismanagement of funds, accusing him of the mismanagement of funds. All of a sudden, we're supposed to go, oh, well, ve, now this is clearly a church mission, so if you don't, ve now support Turning Point faith, especially given this terrible thing that this terrible thing that they're going through. These were his real friends and there's something wrong with you. You're not godly, right? It's godly to accept the Fed narrative.

1 (34m 20s):
It's godly to suspend your rational thinking and to just assume that all of these churches which have way too many military men who come from a long line of powerful military families, they really are just about the mission, right? They're all just really good people and that bad things continue to happen to, I don't like it, you guys. I don't like it at all. This res it's all coming together right now. You're starting to see, now we know what exactly, which I'm gonna get into in more detail tomorrow. The Trump administration seems to have been hiding these emails. They're not good, okay? They are completely indefensible, but I already told you I was done with MAGA at the moment.

1 (35m 4s):
He looked at in the face and he said, what files? Right? What? What are we still talking about? Jeffrey Epstein. Pam Bondy said it was a Democrat hoax. No, I, I think the entire nation has been hoax by Republicans and Democrats and there are pervert elites that sit at the top. That's my suspicion. We'll take a a quick break and come back in a second.

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1 (37m 44s):
Christian Zionism is heretical. I don't know what they are protecting, but if you don't see that, it has gone masked down. The people who won't even speak about BB net and Yahoo's Crimes against Humanity. He's being tried for crimes against humanity. All somehow have the energy to come for Candace Owens right to come for Candace Owens and to try to paint her as a crazy person because she had a dream, and I'm sticking with the dream. I'm sticking with the dream. Charlie was portrayed, he continues to be portrayed every single day, including by the same Christians ISTs that he platformed throughout his entire career, who apparently don't have a single question about any of the BS that we've heard. I also wanna say to you guys, I know that I promise you we would discuss the Egyptian planes. What we have discovered is actually so big that I had to go through the proper channels to get this information to government first, and that was very tricky because I don't know who we can trust in government, right?

1 (38m 32s):
It kind of feels like the government is implicated in trying to stop us from getting the truth about what happened on that day. So I'd be very careful and I had to kind of back wheel and deal and try to figure out who the good guys were, and long story short, we're pausing that until tomorrow because I wanted to give some people a little bit more time on that, so I will have that for you tomorrow. Another element of this, by the way, as we talk about the, I don't know what is very clearly a psychological operation, they all have the same talking points. They're all using different emotionally manipulative tactics, so, oh, you can't question this because like ve now he has a widow and kids and it'd be so harmful to try to figure out who killed him, just like on its face.

1 (39m 16s):
That is such a nonsense. First and foremost, whenever there is a murder full stop, the first people that you should be questioning is like, is there a financial incentive? Is there a financial incentive? Yes, this is an $80 million company. Did people close to him? Do you have friends that were jealous? Was he in any fights? This is such a normal quest. It's completely normal. If anybody watch IDTV, like it's like it's, come on. What are we talking about? Right? This is such a normal thing to consider, and they are trying to pretend that that natural encouragement is just not palatable right now. We just need you guys to buy a t-shirt. We need you to buy a freedom T-shirt and just keep this organization going, even though it seems to have a lot of very questionable characters involved.

1 (39m 58s):
It's a bit ridiculous. I am very awake to, and I think you guys are as well to these psychological tactics, and I've often discussed how in America, it is the media that intentionally fosters this sort of a culture, and in some regard, it's a Judas culture, right? There is a psychology, it hasn manifested where people are encouraged to sell out their friends and even their family members in order to spare or advance themselves or to advance their careers. That's today's version, in my view, of the 30 pieces of silver, right? That's what you see playing out on the world stage. When someone tries to struggle session a person into making a statement against one of their friends, Candace, you, you, you're better than Kanye.

1 (40m 45s):
You have your whole life ahead of you. You'll have more of a future if you just say this one thing, call him Adolf Hitler, call him Antisemite. No thank you. I said, no, Charlie, ugh, can is heading into a direction that's only going to hinder you. We demand as donors that you do not let her speak at Amp. Best we, she's just a bad per, you gotta make a statement against her. Charlie said, no, me, Kelly, it's your career, or it's Tucker Carlson. You decide, right? I, I'm your friend, I just wanna help you. Tucker Carlson, he's really going a bad way. She said, no, this is how it goes. It just made me so happy yesterday. Totally just was hyped.

1 (41m 25s):
Especially I think we all feel this way when you see this psychology employed and someone just completely annihilates it immediately, and Tucker did just that yesterday, or at least yesterday, is when the clip went live. He completely embarrassed this English reporter who was effectively playing this game with him, asking Tucker to condemn me live on his show. Take a listen to this awesome clip,

7 (41m 48s):
Your good friend Kandy Owens has been putting out some pretty wacko stuff, I would say would be my opinion on the death of Charlie. It's not helpful. Is it that ve now at that time of an incredible national upheaval and obviously personal and familial family tragedy, to have someone like that picking it, picking apart the argument and picking it, suggesting that there are darker forces at play here, that the US government have a hand in covering up. It just, can you see why people get upset by that and, and would like you perhaps to sort of distance yourself from that sort of thing?

9 (42m 32s):
Pretty funny. So am I gonna attack Candace Owens because you think, think

7 (42m 36s):
I'm not ask you to, I'm not asking you to attack her. I'm asking,

9 (42m 38s):
I'm not gonna do that, Harry. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not, I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt as a foreigner of not understanding our politics, but the whole ritual of ve now, this person, this person said something I don't like. In order to be a good person, you must denounce this person. Obviously, I'm never gonna, I would die before I played along with that. I, I don't know anyone who's sang that, who was the moral authority to compel me. I don't, I don't know anyone saying that it was any moral authority at all. And I would say broadly, not about Candace, who I love, but about all people getting to the truth is the most important thing. I've devoted my life to it. I haven't always done a very good job at all, but it still remains to this day my animating motive.

9 (43m 21s):
I want to know what the truth is. Again, I, I don't always get there. I often usually don't get there, but I want to be the guy who cares what's true. A b if you're telling me that because the US government or some law enforcement agency issues a statement that doesn't even make sense, that I'm required somehow morally to accept that and not ask any questions, like, can you hear yourself? I mean are what are, what are you saying?

1 (43m 49s):
It's just perfection. It's just literal perfection. What are you doing? Stop trying to gaslight us. You are a part of exactly what we need to defeat. You are a part of the establishment, this organ of people who use psychological tactics to try to make us think we are crazy. We're not accepting something that just makes no rational sense. So it's, oh, this is just a bad time and this is a wacko, wacko jacko. Everybody's crazy. When you start questioning the feds, suddenly they wanna call you crazy and Tucker just annihilates it instantly. He's like, get out of here. I don't know where you're from, okay? I assume you're, you're a foreigner and you think this is how things work in America and we're just gonna accept the Fed slop because that's what we should do as polite citizens.

1 (44m 32s):
No, get out of here. We wanna know who killed Charlie Kirk, because this story seems pretty dark. It seems pretty deep, and everyone that should be using their platforms to try to get to the bottom of what happened to him and asking similar questions is instead calling out Candace Owens and waiting for her to make a mistake so they can try to delegitimize every effort that she's making it to get to the bottom of this thing. It just reeks, it reeks to high heaven. And so I just, I absolutely adore Tucker for that. I adore him for just standing up for me, and obviously he's seasoned so he sees right through it in the same way that I do. But that is the way forward. That is the way forward. When people are trying this on you, trying to manipulate you using bible verses like Allie did after she just seated so much, essentially fundamentally called me a liar in her, in, in her own way about various things, is now pretending she's like an injured bird.

1 (45m 22s):
Because I responded and I responded nicely, but suddenly trying to tell. It's not biblical for you to pry into what's happened to the Charlie Kirk assassination place. This is just not biblical. Yeah, it's, it's a complete nonsense. She did a video yesterday. I don't get dreams like Candace. We see what you're doing. It's petty now. You're being petty Betty. If you wanna get involved looked in this case, do it. If you don't step aside, you are not required to respond to Candace Owens content. That's actually not a requirement. You can keep doing your content telling people that what you do is biblical. While you've ignored the glaring, glaring obvious crimes of Israel, which you refuse to ever denounce your support for ve, now what I'm not doing, I'm not killing tens of thousands of children in Palestine and trying to legitimize, legitimatize it to my audience by telling them that somehow this is what, this is what God wants 'cause it's right here in the Bible.

1 (46m 14s):
I don't know, that's so I'm going to be done addressing her, but I just wanted to say that these are all manipulative tactics. Some of them more evil than others, but that's what's happening right now and we're not. We have to just stay focused on solving what happened to Charlie Kirk and the Feds are not helping. Maybe because Cash Patel is busy crying over his girlfriend. He really needs to believe that she likes him for him. I don't believe that. I actually don't believe, don't accept that Alex Wilkins, who comes from a family of Freemasons and she's got a spotty background. Nobody knows what she was doing in Switzerland, just loves him for him and was in the right place at the right time. By the way, I should mention Alex's Alexis Wils Wilkins is her name. Alexis Wilkins. She's also a member of the Calvary Chapel Church in California.

1 (46m 56s):
Chino Hills, also the Babylon B guy, I can't think of his name right now, is also involved in the Calvary Chapel. We gotta look into this Calvary Chapel thing. It's getting interesting. It just is getting interesting. Irrespective of that, the lawsuit filing a lawsuit to convince yourself or and backing your life partner as she files a lawsuit because somebody made a joke. 'cause that's what a Elijah Schafer's lawsuit is about. It's a joke. And in the lawsuit they talk about his anti-Israel rhetoric. Who cares? He doesn't go there. He can speak trash about Israel if he wants to. In fact, I encourage him to do that. Anyways, obviously this has backfired the lawsuit. People are now making jokes, they're making songs. And I adored Tim Dylan.

1 (47m 36s):
He's very funny. He's very, very much needed humor and he decided, we look into this lawsuit and to see if there was something there. He was particularly interested in why Cash called her a sensational singer that felt emotional, unnecessarily emotional. Anyways, take it away, Tim Dylan,

10 (47m 57s):
Can we get any of her music up or will we get a copyright strike from the FBI? If we play Cash Patel's, girlfriends Country music, will we get a copyright strike from the feds? Because I'm curious, by the way, if, if she's a country music sensation, I would just like to know that. I would like to know that. I'd like to be, I think if we just play a little bit, it'll be okay.

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10 (49m 28s):
And she goes, Here's Israel. They're like, no, no, hold on. You didn't get the lyrics. You didn't get the lyrics. Tel Aviv, I mean Tel Aviv, it is such pretty, Steve, I love Tel Aviv. Israel is for me. I love k Patel. Indians don't smell. That's stereotype. I'm just a country star. I met him at a bar. I'm not Themic side Plant. Why would you say that? Why would you say that? There's lots of files in the office.

10 (50m 10s):
It's impossible to say which ones are Jeff. Let it go. She releases a song, let it go. 'cause we're proud Americans, we're concerned with our families. We don't need to see no fouls. Mind your own business. Mind your own business.

1 (50m 37s):
I mean, put it on Spotify, put it on iTunes. I wanna download it. It feels this way. It feels like that is the country song right now. We are Proud Americans. We don't need to see no files. All we get is Fed Slap every day, all day. Yes, I am. I'll record that with you, Tim. I will, I will. You and I will drop a country song 'cause it's a, it'll just be called Fed Slap and then we'll get sued. You're already, Tim Dylan's already included in my lawsuit with Rashe, with Rashe Macron. Apparently the president of France watches Tim Dylan and we talked about the Brae case, and so he's drafted in there. Anyways, I'm looking forward to them putting Tim Dylan under oath.

1 (51m 18s):
I don Dunno about the rest of you. Obviously that's what American Eats. It'll be the only thing and the only thing that we have good going for us at this moment would be Tim Dylan under oath, and I strongly advise that Elijah Schaffer puts him under oath as well. Now that he's making these kinds of jokes, it's, I mean, cash Ruel should sue, obviously Sue, Tim Dylan. I, I totally support that. If you'd like me to testify cash, give me, give me a call. Absolutely. Amazing. All right, You guys, we are going to take a brief break and then I'm gonna come back and answer some of your comments and questions.

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1 (54m 3s):
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1 (54m 44s):
Fantastic. Top three comments from yesterday's episode. Tara Observer writes a question is, why are so many Jewish donors interested in funding a Christian organization? Oh yeah. Kind of a good question. That's like a very relevant question. Why millions of dollars from just one person? Bob Showman, why are you so interested in funding? It's it just, if you, if you really love Christianity that much and you just be a Christian, it seems interesting. For sure. It's a good question. Lobo Gray rights. Just want you to know Candace, and I'm 74 and I survived about a thousand hours of combat missions as a scout helicopter door gunner in Vietnam in 1970. But your courage humbles me.

1 (55m 24s):
God bless you for the example that you're giving our younger generations about how to be an American and even just a decent human being. I'm praying constantly for you. Please be safe and watch your six. Well, thank you for your service. The Vietnam War particularly. I'm not gonna rant. That's Henry Ki Henry Kissinger's War. And the truth about that, it's always been a war against Christians. And I'm not gonna rant about that because it's not the book club, but I'm gonna run about that now next week in the book club. So there's that. But thank you. Too many, too many of our men, good Christian men have been killed. And the narratives that we have been told are completely untrue. Think before you type rights, it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Yep. Mark Twain. That is very true. But I think people are now realizing, we are all realizing we have been fooled.

1 (56m 8s):
Today's comments we have Jennifer, who writes, I finished MAKE HIM A SANDWICH today. Candace speaks with clarity and courage, reminding women that choosing faith, family and traditional values is nothing to be ashamed of. Her message feels honest, empowering, and much needed. I highly recommend it. Thank you, Candace. Go Max. I love Go Max. I love it so much. And I do wanna put it on like a t-shirt, but then they're gonna say like, oh, she's trying to grift off of his death even though everyone else sold t-shirts. And so I feel like I I I shouldn't do that, but I do love it. It's just so Charlie, it's so Charlie to just say Go Max and thank you for reading the book. Honestly. I love it. I think you guys are gonna love it. Obviously I love it 'cause I wrote it, but it's really fun. It's a fun read. It starts with Cardi B and ends with Cardi B. So it's, of course, it's gonna be fun if it starts with Cardi B and ends with Cardi B.

1 (56m 50s):
You can buy that at MAKE HIM A SANDWICH dot com. Even though it says it's available for pre-order, I will ship because we're already, we've already shipped out pre-orders, so there's that. MAKE HIM A SANDWICH dot com. Key writes, I fi oh, you, I just read that. Oh no, you, this is a different comment. I finished. MAKE HIM A SANDWICH and it is a must read for all. I am saving this book for when my daughter is old enough to read it and I'm going to save up for a signed copy. Keep writing CANDACE. I can't wait for you to publish more. And there was more that I wanna add into the book, but things got crazy when I got fired and I couldn't find time and, but it, it's, it is a fun read. Corey Henry writes, yay was and is smarter than people know ve now, but ve now.

1 (57m 30s):
No, I I do know he is not the best at communicating what he is saying, but he, I always find myself suddenly going backwards and going, oh, I think Kanye was trying to tell us that we just couldn't hear him or appreciate it because his style, if he just, if he communicates it musically, I underst most people understand it. But if he communicates it just on a hot mic, it, it never comes across. I think the way that he intends it. Modern Realty writes as anyone reviewed what the security guards hand off after Charlie goes down, it seems strange that their first action is taking something from him and passing it around. Can we look into exactly what they removed and why it just looks so coordinated and no blood stop.

1 (58m 10s):
So we actually did look really close on clear footage and it looks like they're handing something off, but they actually don't, they're kind of like hitting, like hitting each other, like as if they're trying to coordinate. I mean, me and Mark looked at it very slow 'cause I thought I saw the same thing. And then when we wash it from different angles, they don't actually do that. What's compelling is when you can't see them when they're on the ground, it's, it's just not clear to me what they are doing there. And of course we know they then put down pavers almost immediately and releveled that, that area. So I do find that to be quite shady. I don't know what, what they were doing. Mint Juleps writes, who was the lady donor that yelled at Charlie after one of the T-P-U-S-A shows?

1 (58m 52s):
Was it Miriam Adelson? No, it was not her. She's trying to remove Senator Massey. No, Miriam Adelson is way too high up to have been that person on the ground. It was somebody else. I actually need to to refresh myself on her last name 'cause it's saved in my phone, so I don't wanna misfire on that. Ask me again tomorrow. Okay. You don't have to pay to ask me again tomorrow, but Skyler put a note to ask me again tomorrow so that this person does not have to give again. Bob writes and thank you for giving. Bob writes No more party loyalists next election. Vote for the one not taking APAC money. Get the Zionist out of our government. Yeah, I agree because they're evil and they're involved in something that I think spans around the entire world and it looks very ugly to me. And those people that still support them are, you're like evil by proxy to me at this point.

1 (59m 36s):
Black swan revelations, rights, love can's, videos, keep up the great work Mid runner rights. As you see Elle Reeves attempting at interviewing Tim Dylan. It was like a cool uncle trying to impart common sense to his radicalized niece who just came back from her first semester at Berkeley. I hope they release that full interview because she was really something very patronizing. Eyes always close. The voice alone was very frustrating and I was not in the mood because Charlie had just died and I'd be basically kept the interview because we had set up, obviously we had set up the interview before Charlie died and I just really did not like that young woman. Very patronizing Tim Hester rides. Please wish Tim a happy birthday.

1 (1h 0m 17s):
You and I often exchanged tweets back in 2011, 2012. I loved your smarts and wit. Now my ex liberal husband is your self-proclaimed number one fan. Thanks for converting him. Keep out shining the fake and gay Happy birthday Tim. Hope you have a fantastic day. And I'm so glad that you are now on in our, our cult, as we've learned, we are actually a cult because we're thinking for ourselves. Nicole Hallett writes, imagine going to church and your pastor's bad mouthing Candace Owens Switch churches. How embarrassing. We love you CANDACE. Thank you for caring so much for Charlie and not stopping until we know what's happening. Look, pastor Hibbs is committed. I mean, 5:00 AM calls is crazy, right? Like I'm not setting my alarm at 5:00 AM to host a quote unquote prayer whatever warrior thing.

1 (1h 1m 2s):
That's actually just about how you, you shouldn't listen to Candace Owens to cross. That's, that's committed. You gotta give him a little bit of credit for the 5:00 AM phone call. That's how I'll say Mama Diaz writes the Calvary Chapel. I would watch online had a pastor that said, if you have a Bible, it hasn a map that shows Palestine burn the Bible. I could feel his hate through the screen. It was the last time I watched a sermon of his. Yeah, I think it's interesting that they get started. Hippie movements. Yeah, that it sounds about right. Sixties was a hell of a time as we learned in my book club reading Chaos, then they killed JFK and suddenly the Calvary Church is born. And you've got all these military men who are now what LBJs military men.

1 (1h 1m 44s):
And they're really focused on Israel. I ah, I'm just saying I know we're not allowed to ask questions. Sue me, sue me for asking questions. You're not allowed to unless you have the facts in front of you, because I'm sure Israel's just gonna come to us and say, here's how we did it. Here's the map of how we did it. Until they do that, don't ask any questions about what they're doing around the world. It's not appropriate. It's also, it's anti-Semitic. I read it on the internet. Silicon Valley Rights. Hi Candace, thank you for your great reporting better than the FBI, your research inspired parts of my new historical thriller novel, their black vault fiction for your book club. Question mark. I am not familiar with that thriller. Our book club. We are right now not reading any fiction.

1 (1h 2m 25s):
Oh, I guess you're saying it's not fiction. I'm not sure if it's fiction. No, it does say fiction. We're not doing any fiction right now because it, it turns out that real life is way more complicated and more interesting than fiction books that I've read. Like we are, how could I think Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings was good? Look at what's going on right now. We've got some real evil people that are trying to come together and I do think they're getting exposed. That's why I'm hopeful every single day and I'm willing to take all of these figurative bullets from the foxhole. So I've always had Charlie's back. He's always had mine. I'm not gonna stop doing that. I don't care who makes a video. I don't care if they hold up a Bible when they do it. And blaspheme, I'm not letting this go. I'm going to ask actually every question until we start getting answers.

1 (1h 3m 7s):
And I sure as hell do not trust the people that are running Turning Point faith and under the guise of Christianity trying to make the rest of the world shut up about what happened on nine 10. So anyways, you guys, thank you for the support. We'll see you tomorrow.

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11/12/25
Megyn Kelly Goes SCORCHED EARTH On Those Lying About Charlie Kirk. | Candace Ep 263


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2 (28s):
All right, you guys? Happy Wednesday. I don't know what these people thought. I really, I don't know what they thought. I think they thought Charlie Kirk would get assassinated. They would very quickly bury him in a yamaka and then convinced the world that he was actually besties with Ben Shapiro and Josh Hammer. He didn't even know Candace Owens. His last words before he died were Honor the Sabbath and by Josh Hammer's book. Yeah. And also he had just written this Romeo and Juliet letter to BB net and Yahoo. I feel like that was kind of the plan. But look, the best laid plans, they can fall apart. And I can tell you guys this one is falling apart. It is like an avalanche of truth that is just coming at the Zionist lobby.

2 (1m 13s):
'cause they were just sloppy in these, in these lies, these post-mortem lies. Anyways, Megan Kelly, okay, from the top ropes, she just swooped in and did something unexpected by slamming these people. Really, she didn't even try to slam 'em. She just told the truth. She produced a video evidence of what Charlie said to Tucker backstage at the Student Action Summit in July. We're gonna get to that. Also. Do you guys remember how everybody was freaking out when I told the truth about how long it normally takes for turning Point USA events to come together on campus?

2 (1m 56s):
Well, I always told you when they freak out, it's a clue. And now I know why. They are kind of freaking out and I'm gonna tell you. So Welcome back to Candace. Okay? I'm excited for today, for the rest of the week because we have got some very interesting updates for you in the Charlie Kirk assassination, the assassination that seems to have broken the brains of Zionists, they are not acting right. Can we all agree Zionists are not acting right? They're panicking, panicking so much that they randomly sent Ben Shapiro out into the daylight.

2 (2m 40s):
And that my friends, like I said, is a move, okay? CC would never send Joffrey Lannister into battle, right? And they just went ahead and did that. And he lied to Megan Kelly's face. It is never a good idea to lie. Full stop. Definitely not a good idea to lie to a woman's face, and definitely, definitely not a good idea to lie to her face and try to humiliate her on her own tour. I personally would've strongly advised against it, okay? I would, if somebody said, is this a good idea? I would've said, yeah, ve now what? Let's maybe not do that. But it happened, and it's important to stress here that this was not just a simple mistake that Ben made, right?

2 (3m 21s):
That's always a possibility that Ben really thought, maybe he's backstage and sees something on Twitter. And somebody said, Candace just said that Erica Kirk murdered Charlie. And then he gets on stage and he repeats it. Maybe it's just an accident. Highly unlikely. But of course you have to run that plausibility. But we can now confirm that that certainly was not the case. This was not a simple mistake because in the days following it, he didn't recant, he did not modify, he did not correct. He has a platform he could have just come out and said, oh, ve now I, I got the details wrong. Nope. This was a premeditated and a post meditate lie, okay? Intended to morally blackmail, Meghan into a position to decide right now on the spot whether you are going to stand with evil Candace, who was accusing Erica Kirk of murdering her own husband.

2 (4m 12s):
And that lie backfired gloriously. By the way, I think if it had been any other person, like if it was not Megan Kelly who was sitting across from Ben, his strategy would've worked. That was high pressure, peer pressure. She happens to be extraordinarily media trained. And she didn't, she didn't buck, okay? She looked uncomfortable, but she did not bend to his will. She kind of just moved along and said some stuff about Tucker asked again, like, are you sure she said that? And he says, yes, yes, she said that. And then she found out obviously that I did not say that. And the following night of her tour during a q and a section, somebody named Josh stepped up and asked her about that moment.

2 (4m 58s):
And here is what Megan Kelly said.

3 (5m 1s):
Hi, Megan. Hi, my name is Joshua. My question is, during a recent stop, you had Ben Shapiro as a guest, and he had made some claims about Candace saying that she had said certain things online. And when he made those claims, you looked visibly under uncomfortable because ve Now you hadn't heard that correct and couldn't verify that. So my question is, why did you look so uncomfortable in that moment? And have you researched the claims that he made since?

4 (5m 28s):
Thank you for that. Yeah, no, he said that Candace has been claiming Erica Kirk was behind the murder of Charlie, which I had not heard. And I was taken aback because that seems like something I would've heard. It's so crazy. And I have since learned it is not true. Candace has not made that claim. And in fact, I've, I've now seen several clips of Candace specifically defending Erica Kirk and saying she would never make a claim like that about Erica and that she ve now she is open-minded to other people at Turning Point. That's obvious. She's been making that point. I, I had heard that point, but that, but she has, but she's specifically been defending Erica Kirk, and she's been saying she does not think that of Erica.

4 (6m 8s):
And in fact, if you read her comments, she's under pressure to make comments about Erica. And so far what I've seen, she hasn't. So thank you for that question.

2 (6m 18s):
And I'll tell you right now, Megan was not done. And I will say this, even if I re removed myself from a situation, it is actually the most disrespectful thing that you can do to someone that you purport to be friends with or friendly with. I, I can't even imagine that. Like, Hey, will you join me on stage? I really like you and I'm on tour and I'd love to have you on stage for a discussion. And then this person starts coming after me and questioning my moral compass really process that. That's just not, that's just not cool beyond anything else. So I was pretty dumbfounded when Dave Rubin weighed in on the matter and he called what Ben did effectively trying to humiliate Meghan on her own stage.

2 (6m 60s):
He referred to it as almost an act of bravery. Take a listen to what Dave Rubin says.

5 (7m 4s):
Alright, first off, again, like, I know I'm, I'm, I guess I'm glazing Ben right now, but he deserves it. It is not easy to go onto someone else's show in general when it's not a live audience and criticize them. But it's really not easy to do it when you're in front of thousands of people. I don't know how many people are at those shows, but it's certainly thousands you can get, you can add it to me when thousands of people are there to watch Meghan, and then you have to criticize her a little bit. And he did it absolutely respectfully, and I think he did it properly. I listen, I, I don't care. Look, I don't, you can tell, I don't really wanna talk about Tucker. I certainly don't wanna talk about this Nick guy, but sometimes these things just hit you in the desk. And I agree with Ben, like, I have a job to do and if I don't address the things sometimes that I don't wanna, then I'm probably not very good at my job.

5 (7m 48s):
And you should watch another show. I don't really wanna talk about Candace. We were great friends for a long time. She has been to this house for dinner. She loves chicken Farm.

2 (7m 59s):
Well, I can fact check True. I have been to his house for dinner and I do really love Chicken Farm and I had a good one at his house. I'll say that I'm not gonna front, but the other part that he's saying here, I, I don't know what happens to a Zionist where you just on this one topic, and this was what it was with Dave Rubin and why I had to stop being friends with him or friendly with him, is like, they just don't know what it actually means to be a good friend. It's you do not, when you are invited to join somebody on stage, prepare a lie, right? Present them with a lie and try to peer pressure them in front of their own fans. That's like, there are a million things that could happen before that ever comes to it. She did not invite him to have a debate. She invited him to come on her tour and to introduce ve now to, to have him in front of her audience and to have a conversation about their values.

2 (8m 43s):
It's just not the right place. It's not the right time. And it really just shows that you're not a good person because ve now, she probably went backstage, okay? And said hello to him and was all friendly if you wanna take her to the side and said, Hey, I wanted to have a face-to-face conversation with you. That's how like regular people would handle something like that. Not try to humiliate you on your own stage. That's just going to make Megan upset. And Megan does eventually do what I do when I get mad, I double down on the truth, right? That is what I sentence people to more truth. And it's fantastic to just be able to share more truth. And you don't have to be vengeful. You can just share more truth and it's deeply upsetting to them. And that's what she does.

2 (9m 23s):
She was literally trending all weekend. This video that she shared was incredibly interesting because you will recall that after Charlie died, there was basically just me, Tucker, and Meghan that were trying to say, Hey, something like was going on. And he was feeling a lot of peer pressure in the weeks leading up to his death. And Zionists were claiming that's all a lie. And Tucker was like, no. Charlie asked me explicitly in July to go on stage and to go after Israel trying to drag us into the Iran war and to, I was telling, talking to him about Jeffrey Epstein. And I was saying to to Charlie, I won't do it. And Charlie wanted me to do it, right?

2 (10m 4s):
And the Zionist said that he was lying. I'm gonna refresh your memory here and let you listen to what Tucker claimed that they then said was a lie

6 (10m 13s):
Before that speech that I gave in July. We had a conversation about this backstage right before I went on and I was culminating and getting all red in the face like I often do to my shame. And I was mad thinking about this and thinking about the effort by the neocons in the United States to draw us in to another forever war with Iran, not a defense of Iran. Of course, it's merely an acknowledgement that we've done this before this happened in Iraq, which ve now we, we entered into at the behest of those same foreign policy strategists and, and it didn't work. And so I was going on at some length backstage with Charlie and I said, ve now probably not gonna talk about that.

6 (10m 59s):
I'm not gonna torture you. I know your donors hate this when I say that. And also Epstein was in the news and it was clear to me that ve now Epstein's probably not like a Mossad agent or something, but Epstein clearly had contact with Israeli intelligence and American intelligence and French intelligence. But the only one you're not allowed to talk about is Israeli intelligence. But it, it seemed true to me and I had done some work on that and I knew a bunch of people pretty close to that story. So, so I thought that, and I said that to Charlie and I said, but I'm not gonna say that because I don't wanna make your donors mad. I know it's just gonna be like an endless flurry of texts telling you to stop or you're gonna lose a bunch of funding. And he looked at me, I'll never forget it, and said, go all the way.

6 (11m 42s):
Do it. Go all the way. I said, man, I ve now a lot of things I can talk about. I don't need to talk about that. And he said, do it.

2 (11m 50s):
Yeah. Like I said, they tried to bury Charlie in a yamaka and we were telling you no, he had a change of heart towards the end. And I was telling you that Turning Point had captured that peop they were all micd. Okay? So Turning Point captured that and they could have easily re-released it to give me a little bit of backup, but of course that wasn't gonna come from them. Well, just my luck and Tucker's luck that Megan Kelly actually caught very quickly. Maybe it looks like maybe her assistant's backstage. I don know the backstory here, but she was in that discussion which I had not heard before and she reveals very quickly you were going to to hear Charlie say that Tucker should go for it. So this is what Meghan and Kelly released on her show yesterday.

2 (12m 31s):
And you should go watch the full episode, take a listen.

4 (12m 34s):
I found a video of me, Tucker and Charlie speaking backstage right before Tucker went out. Tucker and I were talking. Charlie came over and interrupted for just a second and you can hear him on this tape, which I've listened to many times. It's very clear on my phone, less clear here probably as he would play it. But it, he says to to Tucker, go Max. He interrupts the conversation because he has to say to Tucker something and what was so important to him to tell talk Tucker was, go, go Max. Here it is.

7 (13m 10s):
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4 (13m 48s):
It's quick, it's just happens to be on tape. Hmm. And it backs up what Tucker said.

2 (13m 55s):
Well Charlie, we're going Max now. Okay? Because Tucker told the truth, he had a conversation with Charlie about everything and Charlie wanted him to go hard. Now Meghan's adding to it. He even interrupted right before he hit the stage and said, go max, go max. Because Tucker, I mean 'cause Charlie was done with these donors, he was done with them, he really was. And I can tell you another story about which donor was waiting for him. Once Tucker got off stage and yelled at Charlie, that was a female Jewish donor and I will be outing her later because I don't care about anything right now. Anyways, point being is we were telling the truth and we have been facing so much peer pressure, so much nastiness for just trying to get out the true narrative about where Charlie's Headspace was at before he, before he died.

2 (14m 37s):
And my favorite part of all of this now is watching them lose the people who tried with all of the money in the world to artificially direct the markets toward them after Charlie died are losing. Okay? The people who sold t-shirts who got on stage and said they were Charlie's favorite pastor America's pastor, I'm gonna take over for Charlie, the people who used their connections, their wealth to get themselves almost invited to be a part of Charlie Kirk's legacy. People that didn't even support Charlie Kirk while he was alive. The people who rushed to lie about me and Charlie's relationship as close as we were, you guys are losing.

2 (15m 18s):
I want you to know that because the market turns out the market is smarter than you are. I go back to that Taylor Loren's tweet early on. She's a hardcore lefty. Yet in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's death, she said it's wild that Candace is the only right wing ring figure that I've seen posting in a way where she seems genuinely devastated to have lost Charlie as a friend. Why did she tweet that? Well, I have an answer for that now Taylor, now that I'm seeing straight, because it's becoming very clear to me that Charlie was a product to everybody else. He was not a human being. He was a product that they felt that they had manufactured. That is my honest opinion and I'm entitled to that opinion. Okay? And not only did they think that they had manufactured him, they felt that he was now malfunctioning.

2 (16m 2s):
He was malfunctioning. And we're not gonna let this go. We are not going to stop speaking about this topic because I sense that we are getting very close because they are very angry and we should recap very quickly the verifiable lies that we have thus far been told by turning point USA themselves, which apparently they're trying to say it's off limits. So now you can't call out all these lies at turning point USA has told you this is what they're trying to struggle session us into because Erica Kirk is now the CEO. So they're off limits, so they're allowed to lie. No, that's ridiculous. We will not be following that. Here's our list.

2 (16m 43s):
And this is by no means definitive. Okay? So getting this together briefly told us these lies. The the amazing heroic, magnificent Mikey McCoy had blood all over him. That's a lie told by Pastor Rob McCoy. Charlie was a committed evangelical who only liked Catholic architecture. That's a lie told and reinforced by Alex Clark and Andrew Covet. Why number three is that Charlie's neck stopped a 30 odd six bullet because Charlie ate salad, he had strong bones, it was a modern day Christian miracle. That's a lie. The offender is Andrew Cove. Another lie Charlie never blinked in his support for Israel offender.

2 (17m 23s):
Josh hammer, bibb net and Yahoo, insert Zionist here. Many Zionists Christian Zionist influencers as well that turned out to be a big lie, an unnecessary lie. Lie number five, the magnificent Mikey McCoy called his dad first. That's a lie. Rob McCoy told that lie number six is Terrell, the AV guy was told to remove the cameras by police. That's not true. I have every second of his moves. That offender would be Tyler Boyer. Okay, he lied. Number seven, Terrell moved the SD cards because people were stealing hats. Question mark Andrew Colette, what if you were scared about people stealing, maybe remove the cameras.

2 (18m 7s):
Very expensive cameras would be the thing that they would steal. What are they gonna do with your SD card? They're gonna resell that. Like that doesn't make sense. Those are pretty cheap, right? Lie number eight, Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk never had any bad blood between them. The offender there was Alex Clark. Ben Shapiro was on her show and I don't know why she tried that little bit of propaganda when she knew that wasn't factually true. Nine Charlie established Doge and that wasn't unusual Turning Point financially audits the company every year since its inception. Lie Doge was entirely different from the apparatus of financially auditing yourself, which is recommended.

2 (18m 49s):
And actually in some states required for a company that size, that's 5 0 1 C3 and 10, like I said, this is by no means definitive list. Mikey McCoy was a hero that day. Now you could say that's subjective, but I feel like that like objectively to be a hero, you can't just make quick phone calls. I don't know, I I I mean and not include 9 1 1 in that list. So I'm gonna put that on our list of lies. Now we're gonna learn some more things that are interesting and compelling. Now remember there was that mass panic about me telling the truth about how long it takes for campus events to come together.

2 (19m 29s):
The schedule, how long, how early they will start promoting for people to buy tickets. I was on tour every single semester, okay, up until June of 2024, okay? And they were mass panicking about this. They were all coming out of the gates, Ali Stuckey, debunking. It was like totally bizarre as if I didn't work for Turning Point and go on these tours with Charlie. And when people start panicking in that way, they're just alarms, okay? You have to think of these people as alarms and you should understand that you're getting close to something And what I've learned has been pretty incredible. So going back to our timeline, I'll remind you it was July 18th, according to the local Utah News, they found this out.

2 (20m 12s):
It was July 18th that UVU Turning Point chapter requested to have Charlie speak that is very late in the day for a request. They're usually backed up entire semesters. Well guess how Quickly Turning Point headquarters not only approved it but then sent people to campus to begin scouting a location almost immediately in early August, within two weeks they had boots on the ground and they were scouting for a location and it gets worse. Okay? I learned that after UVU showed them multiple options inside and outside UVU recommended to turning point that they not hold the event in the amphitheater because of safety.

2 (20m 59s):
Re reasons not a good idea because we can't shut this area down. It's not a good idea because there's no control here. We cannot control the traffic, the flow of traffic coming in and outta this amphitheater. But Turning Point insisted that that was where they wanted to have the event. It was because Turning Point insisted that that event was then held outside. Now I can tell you having done these events, that was the first thing among many that struck me as odd is anybody can just walk into the that. That's the whole point of safety is you wanna make sure that these students, you're checking tickets, you have security looking at them up and down. Do they look weird? Who are we supposed to keep eyes on? This guy's weird.

2 (21m 39s):
Let's watch this guy because he's mumbling to himself. The whole point of that, the reason why you feel safe going to a Turning Point event is because not everybody can just walk up and sit down when they want to. Okay? You wanna look people in the eye. Suddenly that didn't matter to them. Turning Point insisted on having the event outside despite UVU saying they did not, they communicated to them. They did not think the outside was the best idea because of safety reasons. So my question now is which specific Turning Point employees went down and picked that venue outside? I want to know. In fact, I need to know and I will know, right? We're just, if ve now send me a tip. But we're, we're gonna find out what's the events department looking like that does that?

2 (22m 23s):
I know by the way that Mikey McCoy's wife is one of the events directors. Now I'm not saying that she does campus events 'cause there's different departments. She might do the bigger events, but was she at all involved in planning this event? I wanna know. She may not have been. I need to know and I will know. And if you would like us to find out quicker because you have that information, please send us an email to more tips at Candace Owens dot com. Who were the turning point employees that were the boots on the ground that scouted that event and that location and insisted on the outside. The reason they gave them that they insisted on it was because they liked the place outside where Charlie could pull up where the vehicles would be able to pull up.

2 (23m 3s):
Makes no sense. I have gone through an unbelievable amount of kitchens. Doesn't matter where you pull onto the event to speak at a college campus, you're always walking through a kitchen somewhere on campus. So the idea that they liked where they could park their cars, it's not, it's not tracking for me, okay? It's just not tracking for me. Something else that I want to say because somebody may have more information that will make it easier for me is that we randomly received a tip from somebody who knew Pastor Rob McCoy from Thousand Oaks, California. And they were speaking about just kind of the area and how tight knit it is in the church and they said one of the things that's really weird is some of us have been speaking and we had never heard of a Mikey McCoy like his son Mikey McCoy.

2 (23m 46s):
So I followed that tip pretty lightly. This is by no means like a deep search, but somebody on the inside of Turning Point told me that Mikey or or Michael rather is not his first name. It's a middle name, right? And I just want to know what his real name is because I am not letting go of this like Mikey investigation. Something just feels off to me Rob and Mikey, something ain't right. It's not tracking. So if you have that information, please email more tips at Candace Owens dot com. Now to my turning point USA people, I would like to give a special shout out to Dylan Erickson and Austin Erickson, the bros that work at T-P-U-S-A. I want you both to know that I am onto you.

2 (24m 27s):
I have known every word that you have said about me, okay? And I had been investigating You guys for two months straight. Just so ve now like every word you're saying, I'm tracking, okay? Just wanted to do a live shout out to you guys 'cause you're a major piece of this. This puzzle that I'm trying to put together. I'm aware of why refi the major sponsor behind Charlie and Dylan. Your involvement, Austin, your involvement with bringing that sponsor on things got a little different once they were brought on demands got interesting. You are on my radar. You've been on my radar since you were involved in creating the Lie the alibi lie for the Hamptons retreat with Seth Dylan.

2 (25m 9s):
You lied, okay, Seth Dylan did press Charlie. Charlie himself described the Hamptons event as an intervention and you felt the need to insert yourself into lie. And there has to be a reason why, right? We don't have to lie when we don't fear the truth. So I just wanted you guys to know that I'm onto you and I don know because I felt like maybe you were just like, oh, she doesn't mentioned us and like I've got a whole file. We're gonna get there, we're gonna get to everybody, we're gonna get to everybody anyway to the Turning Point employees also, I want you to be aware and very careful 'cause I know a lot of you guys are leaking different people. Be careful leaking emails, okay?

2 (25m 51s):
You can leak the content of the emails but do not leak the actual emails themselves because we've had some tech people alert us that they're running something through softwares and it looks like Turning Point has implemented a software to track your email verbiage. Essentially they can make it so like everybody's email, one word is different. So if that email ever hits the public, the actual picture of the email, they will know exactly which employee it came from. So leak the information, do not leak the actual email. Or if you do leak the email, tell the people not to share the email. Okay? I wish they put the same energy behind finding out who killed Charlie Kirk. Am I crazy? I'm crazy.

2 (26m 31s):
I was like, they want, they don't want people speaking about what's happening at the company that's supposed to be a charity interested in in free speech and faith. And they're worried about what? What information getting out exactly. Whatcha You guys so concerned about? I don't know. It's not, it's not making sense to me. It is kind of making sense to me if I'm being honest. But we will just keept trucking along also as we continue to paint this picture of the corruption of faith, right? TP USA faith has got my attention. I learned that there was another pastor who's close with Charlie. We've received some emails about him who had a family member who was present that day.

2 (27m 12s):
And don't go away because it's about to get interesting. We'll be right back.

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2 (29m 41s):
To get real specific. By the way, since we're going max, if you went to high school with Mikey McCoy, Dylan Erickson or Austin Erickson, I would like to hear from you 'cause I'm having some trouble tracking these people. It's like they just materialize and I have just some interesting leads. So if you went to high school, if these individuals, I like to hear from you because these people didn't, to my knowledge, Mikey did not go to college and yet he's a chief of staff. He's 23, he's super young. There's some stuff I need to be able to track and I'm, I'm having difficulty tracking that. So thank you. More tips at Candace Owens dot com. Beyond that, I would like to follow up with you guys on something that we left open-ended.

2 (30m 21s):
I'm also gonna put together a list of things that are open-ended D, it may appear open-ended, but I'm tracking down everything on the side. I am very organized in the background here. And it was regarding why Charlie had a medical file at Utah Valley Hospital, despite the fact that he went to Tims, right? I think you guys have emailed me and said that I'm pronouncing that wrong. I'm just gonna rock with Tims. Now, we had wondered if perhaps the two hospitals shared information because that's a plausibility. If you're using the same tech or maybe you're within the same healthcare system, we can now confirm that those two hospitals do not. They do not share information.

2 (31m 2s):
Timus Hospital is owned by HCA, which uses a charting system called VDI, Utah Valley Hospital is owned by IHC and they run on a system called Epic, which many of you guys emailed me about like I recognize the system, it's epic. They had recently implemented Epic. They are not interlinked. These two hospitals do not speak to each other. If a patient has never been to Timpanogos Hospital, but they have been to Utah Valley, their info would not come up in at all in Tim's system. So we don't know why that is. We don't know why this anomaly occurred where Charlie Kirk had a file and when nurses were notified not to touch the file, we can't make sense of that.

2 (31m 44s):
It's very strange. We're gonna move on from that. I just wanted to follow up and tell you that if ve now something obviously email us, we're gonna move on to something else that I find interesting because we all know Bush did nine 11, but did Bush do nine 10? It's a joke. It's a joke. But we received this interesting tip early on. We didn't really know what to do with it. Some students on the ground described witnessing an old man talking to a bush, right? They said there was this old man and he was talking to a bush. Weird. We thought, okay, that's weird. It's weird. First and foremost that there were so many old people in attendance at this event, full stop.

2 (32m 27s):
Older people were all the ones who happened to be speaking to the news. I was like, are there any young college kids available at UVU that attended this event that could have spoken to the news? Apparently not. Like I said, not much we can do with that information. So we just kind of stored it in the back and then our source was able to track down a video of the alleged old man that they were saying during like setup before Charlie had got, had, had, had arrived, was talking to a bush. Now I'm gonna show you the video they sent. We absolutely cannot definitively confirm from this video that he is speaking to a bush, but we can at the at very least confirm that he's near the bush and he is alone.

2 (33m 10s):
Okay? And here is that video and I'm gonna tell you why that tip suddenly became interesting to me. Okay? We're gonna show it to you quickly and then we're gonna slow it down and circle down. There he is. There's the bush we're referring to. There we go. Okay. So that's the video that we received. And it is interesting because it turned out that that old man is the brother of Pastor Jack Hips. We've been speaking about these pastors man, these pastors, pastor Hibbs, great friend of Charlie Kirk, also another leader of a Calvary Chapel, just like our boy McCoy, pastor McCoy Cavalry Chapel churches in California.

2 (33m 57s):
Well, yeah, pastor Jack Hibbs leads one. Butch Hibbs is also his brother who's involved in a cavalry chapel church in Utah. And later, what's interesting is he's behind Charlie when he gets outta the car, like Charlie comes out of his car, arrives for the event, he's with the amazing Mikey McCoy and you can see that that quote unquote crazy old man as described by us is actually he. He's here with Charlie and Frank Turik confirms that that pastor, that that Butch Hibbs is Pastor Jack Gibbs's brother, take a listen.

10 (34m 33s):
So we get there, we pray, we get out of the car, there's a whole bunch of T-P-U-S-A leaders there that wanna pose for pictures. Charlie graciously poses for pictures. He pose for a picture with me and we'll show this picture here. This is me, Charlie, and in the middle is Butch Hibbs, that's the brother of Jack Hibbs, pastor Jack Hibbs. And he came to the event, wanted to meet us both. So we took a picture. This picture was taken maybe 20 minutes before the assassin struck.

2 (35m 7s):
Now what's compelling is really that just like every other one of these new age Turning Point pastors Hibs are from a military family, okay? Butch Sr was in the Navy. What he did in the Navy is unclear, but I'm interested, I'm just really interested. Also something that I'm just gonna say on the side here is too many people that are involved in this Utah story I met through Prager University. Like Jack Hibbs was somebody that Marissa flagged for me that she wanted me to have on my show. Like she'd say like certain guests, the guy who runs Operation Underground who or did run Operation Underground before he got into a scandal, also was introduced to me by Marissa Strait.

2 (35m 52s):
It's just, there's a lot that in the back of my mind I'm going, this is interesting. A lot of these characters that are just kind of that Tim Ballard is the one that used to run Operation Underground, which is a charity for sex trafficking. And he's been featured a lot in this story. Characters that knew him, person on the plane. There's just a lot's happening here is all I wanna say. And I find it to be odd. Okay? There's a picture emerging here. I am wondering about these new age pastors, like is that what everybody does when they leave the military? They start a church or are we looking at an operation? That's the question that I have. And yeah, I would, I would, if you are a part of Calvary Chapel anywhere, I would just wonder if your pastor just came from the military and if he, or if he's from a high ranking military family, did the military execute an operation, a psychological operation on the American people to get us to support Christian Zionism after World War ii?

2 (36m 46s):
Kind of the question that I think is hanging in the air right now after perhaps also the assassination of JFK, like when you talked about the military industrial complex, like how, how industrial did this cont, how did did this complex get is, is it an industry of churches? That's what I'm, that's what I'm thinking. That's what it's looking like to me. And tomorrow we're gonna get into the characters involved in T-P-U-S-A faith and this random strand of sex scandal, sex and trafficking and weapons scandal that keeps happening. Okay? We're not gonna not look into Turning Point faith because, oh, you're not allowed. It's, it's untouchable all of a sudden because Erica's at the helm of it.

2 (37m 26s):
No, if there's corruption anywhere, you have a right to attack it, especially if it comes in the name of the Lord. I will say that, switching gears here, but sticking on the topic of liars and losers, Kash Patel, he has to step down. There's no other option here. If case you missed it, Kash Patel, the director of the FBI, who represents America on the world stage, right? We are already not being taken very seriously, but Kash Patel is catalyzing that descent, okay? He's catalyzing that descent into absolute D mockery. He tweeted, I told you about that a couple of weeks ago. Leave my girlfriend alone and then we see you guys and like she's my life partner.

2 (38m 10s):
Like, you left your wife, you've been with this girl for like a year and a half. Calm down. Okay? Just calm down like a teenager in love. It's ridiculous. Well, now his girlfriend turns out is suing Eliza Shafer and other content creators for $5 million. For 5 million for her hurt feelings, okay? Because she was called a honeypot, an Israeli pot. And in some circumstances, I wanna be very clear, they didn't even explicitly call her a honey pot. They just posted a picture that was a circumstance in terms of Elijah Schaeffer, I should actually read some parts of this lawsuit so that you understand that we are not a serious nation anymore, right? We are not a, we are not a serious nation.

2 (38m 51s):
And it's important that you come to that conclusion quite quickly. Okay, where are we? So they, this is directly from a lawsuit. It says that on September 14th, 2025, an ex-US that goes by hen mig published a lengthy and detailed post about the prominent role of female Mossad agents have played in Israel's sophisticated intelligence efforts against Iran, including by seducing top officials. And that some of them reportedly seduced high ranking enemy officials. Now in response to the comments on that same day, Elijah Schafer posted a photo of Alexis Wilkins, that is her name, and Patel, right?

2 (39m 38s):
So this is the act, this is what they're suing over right here on the internet, L ol Elijah Schafer posts a photo and the lawsuit goes on and says, ever since Kash Patel was appointed as director of the FBI in February of 2025, the conspiratorial corners of the internet and social media have been spreading a false narrative that Ms. Wilkins is an Israeli Mossad agent, a spy, or a quote unquote honeypot. So here's the thing. I've been around, I've been around, and there are some rules to lawsuits. If you have to sue someone to prove as an example that you, you are a woman aje Macron.

2 (40m 25s):
It's because you're not one, if you have to sue someone to prove that your relationship is really authentic and real and like love from the heavens, it probably isn't what I'm just saying. I've been around. That's all I'm saying. And I have been the subject of so many conspiracies because of how me and my husband met, right? People online people have done threads, put in names that were not even true. I read one thread where they said like a donor put me and my husband, it just couldn't be further from the truth. I've never cared. I just laugh at them because it's just not true. It's just none of it's true. So I don't care. The fact that she filed this lawsuit, of course, means that she did this with the blessing of her quote unquote life partner, Kash Patel.

2 (41m 9s):
He knew this was happening. He did not stop her from doing this. Are they trying to convince us or is she trying to convince him? Or is he trying to convince himself? Okay? And of course, inevitably what happens when you follow these lawsuits as people then get interested in you, and there is something called Theand Effect. Now, before thisAnd effect happened, I was already interested because he's acting weird. He's just acting really weird right now. Kash Patel, and she might not be a Mossad honeypot. I don't know. I've never made that claim. There's no, there's literally no evidence of that. People, other than people saying she works for Marissa Strait, Prager u who ve now she's formerly of the IDF Intelligence Unit. I worked for Prager U I'm not a Mossad honeypot person, so that's not evidence.

2 (41m 53s):
But there is evidence that she comes from a, a Freemason family in California, like dad was in the Freema, California Freemasons and grandpa was pretty high up in the California Freemasons. And ve now Cas Patel's dropping 33 hours. Like, like it means something that's actually more interesting than the Maad honeypot thing. Mom works in aerospace, so we're not like, she's not just like some cutesy country singer. It hasn no connections. Like let's make that clear. She's not, she doesn't have no connections letting you guys know that. And I am so sick of the idea that you're gonna file and bankrupt people because you don't like what's on the internet. That's why this needs to be exposed.

2 (42m 34s):
He should be flamed. The punishment for these sorts of things is we, these people should be shamed. They should be absolutely shamed out of public life forever. If your solution to somebody saying something on the internet is, I'm going to bankrupt you, especially something who cares? You're a country singer. Even if you were a Mossad honeypot, who you, why do you care? Who cares? Like if you do not know how to deal with the internet, get off of it. Just get off of it. It is optional. You are not re required to be on x to make videos for pr. You, you are not required to be on x to sing the national anthem for Turning point USA get off of the internet if you do not have it within you.

2 (43m 16s):
The courage to withstand Elijah Schaeffer making a joke. Okay? All of these people have said things about me. I have been mocked for everything from the color of my skin to what I, who I work for, to, I mean, you name it, there's a joke out there that's said about me, okay? Or not even a joke, people just being insulting. I, I wake up, I'm called the N word big deal. The internet is optional. Alexis Wilkins, it's optional. Kash Patel, this lawsuit is pathetic. You should be forced to step aside. But ve now, it's probably not going to happen because a lot of things that are going on in this administration have been embarrassing. And yeah, we're hunting down kids on college campuses that offend Jewish people. So like we're, I guess we're gonna, we're stuck with Kash Patel.

2 (43m 56s):
That's all I'm saying. Anyways, let's take a quick break before I get to some of your comments.

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2 (45m 53s):
Okay, reading the top comment from our last episode, Nick Joneses wrote as a registered Democrat, I think, who killed Charlie Kirk. It's one of the most important questions of our time. I wanna know who killed Charlie Kirk and what's in the Epstein files. I think the same people are behind all of the greatest problems in the last 100 years. It's the source of all the corruption wars and even much of the division in our own country. Candace is absolutely doing the Lord's work. And I'm not even very religious. I could not agree more with you. It's, it's actually the most important thing. That's why I said I'm not even voting until I saw this, because it is the undoing of everything. It's like we've just, all the just been veils and we just had not realized that we're now piercing through and we're realizing that these monsters rule over us. Also, I see somebody in the live chat on YouTube wrote it looks like Mikey McCoy went to Oaks Christian in Thousand Oaks.

2 (46m 38s):
That is correct. And the part that you're missing is that Rob McCoy ran that school. He ran Little Oaks. It's like a boarding school. Little Oaks. I found that out. I guess Rob McCoy, he's actually even more amazing. He's had so many hats. Calvary Chapel outright purchased for whatever reason outright purchased the Christian Academy in 2009, I believe it was. I saw an article about it because the teachers were suing Rob because he fired them. And then Rob was suing them saying, well, I fired you because you weren't Christian enough and you didn't come to church on Sundays. It was this whole thing. And he filed in federal court and the lawsuit didn't go through.

2 (47m 19s):
I mean, he didn't win the lawsuit. I don't know who won the lawsuit. I didn't really get that far into it. But yeah, I'm interested in his interest in this Christian school anyway. And like I said, I wanna know who went to school with Mikey and the Erickson Brothers. Other comments We have, Angie, we need go Max Merch team Candace for life. She, honestly, that's actually a great idea 'cause we are going Max now. We are going Max. I love that. I love what he said. Go Max. It's such a Charlie thing to say. Brittany Watson writes the Charlie Kirk Betrayal and assassination is shaping up to be the scandal of our lifetime. And you are leading the charge of investigating and in question asking the world will owe you a debt of gratitude soon and very soon.

2 (48m 1s):
Thanks for all. I I totally agree that this is a scandal of our lifetime and they're just trying to gaslight us to pretend like their behavior's normal, using every emotionally manipulative tactic to make us not look further like, oh, what about these people? They're hurting, they're grieving. Keep the same effing energy you had when you were like, let's move on. Let's raise money. Like stop acting like you were so aggrieved. Like if, if you can just move on and say like, I'm gonna be the new person. I'm gonna do speeches, I ve now I'm gonna carry on and, and, and I'm, I'm speaking obviously here about Rob McCoy and Mikey McCoy. Then you don't get to flip and go, oh, these people, these people are too aggrieved. Doesn't work for me. Okay, it doesn't work for me.

2 (48m 42s):
I feel like Taylor Lorenz, like once I came back from Wyoming, I then started paying attention to everyone's behavior and I was like, why will I feel like I was the only one grieving? Like, what's up with, with the Turning Point employees? Hey, and by the way, obviously when I say like everyone at Turning Point, I clearly do not mean every single person at Turning Point because all of these leaks are coming from people that are at Turning Point. So there are amazing people who loved Charlie, who hate the corruption that's happening right now, who sense that everything is being pushed under the rug who have intimately let me know the things that the Erickson brothers are doing and saying and texting. And I, I just have a file of all of it because of people at Turning Point USA and they don't care. They want nothing but the truth and they know they're not getting it, which is problematic.

2 (49m 25s):
Brittany Watson, I'm sorry, Kamaya writes, Candace is homeschooling the internet and homeschooling my children in the morning, which has been an absolute blast. Such a great blessing to add that to my day. It puts me in a good mood every day. And Charlie always said, be a happy warrior. So I am a happy warrior. The original Pollywog writes Was that like Binya Binya Pollywog, look here please. What does your opening song say that is from a Kanye song? I hope he's bright and brave and strong. It's, I guess hitting differently. Yeah, it's a, it's a Kanye song and it's a sample from, I can't, it's called Stars. The beginning of it is called Stars.

2 (50m 5s):
Lots of comments saying Defcon three not death. That was a Kanye joke. Remember notoriously Kanye tweeted this and everyone freaked out 'cause he wrote death. He meant Def Con three. 'cause it's a defensive position. I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going death con three on some Jewish people. The funny thing is, I actually can't be antisemitic because black people are actually Jew. Also, you guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone, whoever opposes your agenda. That tweet is hitting differently today, man. Pull it back up. That tweet is hitting differently today. I got blackballed because I opposed the Israeli agenda.

2 (50m 48s):
I think he was talking about some Zionists in Hollywood and he did mean to see, to say Defcon three, but they pretended like, like he was going to literally go around Hollywood and start murdering Jewish people. And what he was saying was he was tired of people that were trying to compel him to say and do certain things who happened to be Jewish. And so we were, we were being funny. We know that it's def con three. We were just doing a throwback to Kanye. I I should have probably put a Kanye photo in there. Next comment is from Slow acla writes, thank you Candace so much. We are praying for you. Thank you so much for that contribution.

2 (51m 28s):
SGT Sox, Wright, Christ is king. I'm so proud of you, Candace and Ian. God bless and let Tucker know I'm caring on camel regulars non-filtered. What's that?

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2 (52m 11s):
Cigarettes. Camel regulars. Yeah, I've never smoked cigarettes and stuff like that, so I don't know anything about that. I'm ignorant. I'm sorry. You guys tobacco something. Okay. It's it's an inside joke. I'm not in on it. Don't be dumb rights. Israel isn't even our ally. No treaty to help if attacked didn't spot one IDF Soldier during my time in Iraq or Afghanistan. Yeah, they don't have enough bodies. They need us. So they play psychological games with us so that we convince our sons to go die for them. They get land, they get free insurance, they get free healthcare, they get all of these welfare benefits and we get a, a country that is just in full deterioration. We get called antisemitic. If you're white, you're told it's your fault, it's your problem.

2 (52m 54s):
I I, if you're black, you're told basically that you should be aspiring towards Ebonics and hip hop culture and pretty much are set up on the pipeline to prison. Pretty young. And both sides are told. Black and white people are told, you're not allowed to say anything bad about Israel. We ruin your life. That's the reality. That's our nation and we war with each other. Black and white people and Zionists have so much power in media and as we are learning the churches, the Christian churches, I mean, I don't understand how this happened while also getting to always say that they are the victims. So I wanna make that clear. They are the victims of everything. Always don't question it. Trust the science. Ashley Blair writes, hello Candace.

2 (53m 35s):
I am Bailey and I've been a fan of your show since you were on the Daily Wire. Foreign Muslim immigrants are swarming into Europe, Australia, Canada, and the us And I wanted to see if you had an opinion on Israel's involvement in that. Yeah, well here's the thing. Israel sends us in to smash the countries that they live in. They create the refugee crisis and then they, people complain about how these people like have nowhere to go. I can't believe that Israel is taking over Syria and now there's all these Syrian refugees. I can't believe Israel. It's just they're expanding their borders and they're pushing these people into countries they don't wanna be in. Do you think that the Palestinians don't wanna stay in Gaza where they've been? Of course they do. But look what's happening. Trump needs a casino, right?

2 (54m 15s):
Jared's doing deals. They don't wanna, they want beachfront properties. They're invested in this. And so then they're gonna tell you, 'cause we're always the fools, right? Like we're arguing amongst that. You guys need to go fight the Muslim people in your community that they're gonna establish Sharia law. That's the low hanging fruit. They're gonna establish Sharia law. Well, maybe they could have kept the Sharia law in their own countries if we didn't kill a million of them. Like just in like one simple setting like we did in the Iraq war, right? The Iraq war. We just killed like a million Iraqi civilians, by the way. Okay, just civilians as in like you and me, nothing to do with the war. We did that and who did we do that for? Did you think? Do you think it was it was because we were looking for weapons of mass destruction.

2 (54m 56s):
That's what they always say. That's why they're trying right now. They want Iran. They, they want to force this, this change of power in Iran. Yeah, that's kind of the repeat thing. We're spreading democracy for who? Ve now we're, we are expanding Israel's borders and we are rendering everybody around Israel weak. That's what the picture looks like. Your son should not be signing up for the military until it's fixed. That's my personal opinion. Texas Toast writes, I'm curious if the government is so sloppy with all their inside jobs because they'll off or call people crazy for pointing out the obvious that they are doing It is a shame. I love your show. I think that they're like camps on a wheel. It's always worked. It's worked for so long. We, we all took it, we accepted it.

2 (55m 36s):
Like I said, I count myself among it. I was left or right. I believed in the paradigm. I thought this person would fix things. I hated people on the left. I started on the left like thinking more liberally and then I hated people on the left and I never looked up, right? So it's worked forever and I don't think they know how to do something new. And so now they're gonna try to pass speech laws. And if you actually look at the history of passing speech laws, it does seem like a, a general thing that Zionists like to do so that they can rewrite history. You want me to believe the history of what you're telling us about World War ii when you can't even tell us the truth about who Charlie Kirk was like five seconds ago. We're supposed to believe you're telling like, but totally like trust you on what you're telling us about 1948 and how Israel became a nation.

2 (56m 22s):
But you can't even tell the truth about like what Charlie Kirk was going through five minutes ago. Get out of my face. Okay, lemme stop. I'm going into overtime here and I'm gonna get in trouble. This is when I get in trouble whenever we're in the ot. I gotta stop. Okay. Spice this to say our show some good news is now available in Spanish, Portuguese, and French. So we had the links to those specific channels below. If you would prefer to hear me speak in French and Spanish and Portuguese AI tools now allow us to do that to reach more people.

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11/11/25
Why Is Everyone Crashing Out Over The Charlie Kirk Investigation? | Candace Ep 262



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3 (31s):
All right, you guys happy Monday. And is everybody okay? I just wanna check in to see if everybody's feeling okay because there are a lot of people online who are coming undone. What is it about the Charlie Kirk investigation? What is it about Charlie Kirk's assassination that is causing so much panic? They're saying I faked the text messages again, the ones I showed regarding Ben Shapiro, they got AI analysis. These are fake. They're sending experts, quote unquote experts out to diagnose me at my show and it, they've decided we're a cult. Okay?

3 (1m 11s):
Over the weekend, grok, literally the AI robot crashed out. He, he crashed out. He couldn't keep up with the lies about me. And so then he stated the robot on top of a trend that Candace Owens has accused Marcus Hale of murdering Charlie Kirk this past October. I don't know what's going on. I'm just gonna say that's kind of weird how the only people that seem to believe the Fed story are Zionists and they demand that we accept the Fed story and their panic is making me think that we're getting closer to something and that something is pretty big and it's gonna imply a lot of people. I don't know.

3 (1m 51s):
Today I'm gonna tell you guys about a particular person who is connected to Charlie Kirk and January 6th. So welcome back to Candace. Okay, so something that I wanna say right at the top here before we get further into the the Charlie Kirk story, and speaking about January 6th and how somehow that's connected, there's something I learned that's bothering me. I'm just gonna put it out there, see if it bothers you as well.

3 (2m 31s):
But I learned via tips that the feds immediately seized the footage at Timpanogos Hospital. Okay? Timpanogos Hospital, remember this is the hospital that it was quite strange that they moved to take Charlie to because it was further and also less equipped than UV Hospital. Like it was like UV was a trauma one and Anos was trauma three. And a bunch of people said very strange that they took him here. And then it got strange because we started hearing from other people that he was definitely at UV hospital. It was very weird. Anyways, I would like to add to that by saying that on the day that Charlie was shot, for whatever reason, you know, cash Patel injects himself into it.

3 (3m 13s):
The Feds seized all of the footage at the hospital that Charlie was brought to at Tim Bongos. That doesn't make sense to me. No, nothing makes sense to me in this whole story. So this is just kind of the icing on, you know, on the top here. Not even the icing on the top, but why would they move to seize that footage? How is that gonna help their investigation? What's happening inside of Timpanogos? How is that going to help their investigation, their immediate boots on the ground investigation into who shot Charlie Kirk? They're trying, they're on a manhunt. Why are they going, okay, let's at first grab the footage at timpanogos. Does that make sense? Were you worried? Did, did a nurse call 9 1 1 and say, oh, a guy just ran in here with a gun and you need to see, you know, seize the the footage because that's gonna help you track 'em down.

3 (3m 58s):
If that didn't happen, why are you seizing that footage? I dunno, with everything that is going on, and I would say almost the lack of information that we have at Timpanogos, not a single person who captured them pulling up nothing despite the fact that there were news cameras outside waiting, oddly from like a new, a New York News channel, we have not seen anything regarding that, that we can build in competently on our timeline that would let us know what time in particular Charlie arrived at the hospital. And I feel like something's amiss if the Feds moved to grab the footage inside of the hospital immediately and outside of the hospital immediately. So just putting it out there, if you maybe were somebody who has footage and saw that black SUV pull up at the hospital, please get that to us at more tips@canisowens.com because it's starting to bother me something there is starting to feel a miss, everything's a miss.

3 (4m 54s):
Anyway, there also happens to be another interesting constellation that's building here, because as I said at the top, there is something about this investigation into Charlie Kirk and who said who, who assassinated him, that is causing extremely powerful people to panic a network of powerful people. And by powerful people, I mean the feds, okay, I don't know about you, but I'm starting to wonder if every major publicly traumatizing event, they have actually just been organized by the feds. And rather than blaming themselves, the strategy that they always employ is to get out a narrative, a sloppy narrative like we saw this time with the Charlie Kirk assassination.

3 (5m 42s):
That is one thing that I will say is so amazing. The only thing that has been amazing with the Charlie Kirk assassination is that it has brought the left and the right together. And what I mean by that is typically we're ready to take the Fed swap this time, it was the messages obviously, and they're like, oh my dad's maga, he just, he was maing too hard and the left was supposed to go, see it's his dad's fault, Mag's bad. And then the right was supposed to go, look he trans person bad. This time though, we all went, this is too evil. It feels orchestrated. And do you guys always do this? Like, is this what you guys do? That definitely, now that I'm reflecting and I am including myself in this, that was kind of my old vibe left or right, that was definitely the vibe of January 6th, right?

3 (6m 31s):
We all took the bait, just own it. Okay? If you're lefty, own it, you were like, Maga is bad if you're on the right, own it. We were like, the left is bad. They're overthrowing an election. We, we did it on January 6th, 2020. I can tell you where I was. I was nine months pregnant, my first child and I was super maga at this time. I would've definitively gone to this soft, this steal rally, but I was just too pregnant to go. And I was living in DC so it was just down the street from me. And I reflect on that and I think, wow, that saved me. 'cause I, I could have been swept up in what happened on January 6th. I could have been there. We all know how the story goes. Trump hosts this speech, he has this rally and then afterward people quote unquote storm the capitol, break through the barriers and there's an insurrection and CNN is showing these clips in the footage.

3 (7m 20s):
And it's funny for me especially, 'cause I was right up the road and as a resident of DC literally living there, and I was thinking how strange it was. I'm sitting on the couch with my husband and we start getting all these phone calls like from my sisters and family members asking if we're okay and we didn't have the news on. And we're like, yeah, we're okay. So strange that you're calling, we don't even hear any noise. And it was actually the first time that there was peace in dc meaning it was the summer of BLM riots. So it was strange that we never got called when people's cars were getting smashed and things were being burned to the ground, but suddenly we were getting phone calls because the media was there. You know, right there, the mag has gone too far and, and they were showing all this footage and it was out of place. Right Now, I knew instantly as a DC resident that the feds were involved because of the pipe bumps.

3 (8m 7s):
That was it. I was, I, I knew they were involved when I heard that pipe bombs were mysteriously dropped off the night before at the DNC headquarters, RNC headquarters. And we just don't know who did that. 'cause I live there and there, it's, I mean, it's, it's the capital. So every square inch there's a camera. You just can't do that. You can't just get away from being a couple of blocks away from the White House and dropping off pipe bombs, right? Anyways, this weekend, after five long years, finally the person and I, I'll say allegedly, because I guess we're gonna have to wait for the feds to dispute this, but the person responsible for dropping off those pipe bombs was revealed to be a fed, more specifically, a 31-year-old woman and a United States Capitol police officer named Shawnee Ray Kirkoff, right?

3 (8m 60s):
A man named a reporter named Steve Baker, which deserves all of the credit on this amazing discovery. And I'm gonna let you listen to Glen Beck, who is interviewing Steve Baker to tell you about how he came across this footage and how that went down.

4 (9m 15s):
When I stumbled on what I stumbled on and because I, as I said, I've been pulling these threads for years and I pulled one last Wednesday, a week, two weeks ago, today rather. And when I pulled this thread, I was so shocked by what I saw. I immediately took it to a source in one of the most important highest level investigative federal agencies in the country. I immediately took it to our sources there and I said, you have to see this. After they looked at it for about two hours, the response that I got back was Holy F and then the follow-up response was, she's one of us.

5 (10m 10s):
And when you find out the position, I mean this is going to lead. It's not just this one person, this now will implicate so many people at the highest levels that had to have known because of, of what happened after January 6th. I mean, it's, it's, it's, I, I mean how big does this net get?

3 (10m 37s):
How big does this net get? I'm feeling this way about the Charlie Kirk investigation. A lot of people are gonna get swept up in this investigation. Perhaps the same people that are gonna get swept up in the January 6th and it's not gonna be the swept or right story right now. Much more is gonna come out. I'm not here to cover all of January 6th and, and what they have been unpacking more will come out in the coming days. What we do know is, like I said, this was a five-year investigation, it involved forensic analysis, A CIA spokeswoman Liz Lyon stated that Shawnee Kirkoff, the alleged person who dropped off these pipe bombs, worked in campus, Capitol police, campus security. She lives in Alexandria, Virginia.

3 (11m 17s):
She is apparently now under the watch of law enforcement officers because the Blaze News editor in chief decided to pull up to her house to just kind of see if any action was happening at her home. And then he instantly got stopped by local police before they allowed him to leave. Now, surprise, surprise, I think it's always the feds and we might be being ruled by criminals like, I don't know Jeffrey Epstein, who

6 (11m 42s):
Are you still talking about? Jeffrey Epstein.

3 (11m 46s):
We're still talking about Jeffrey Epstein Trumpy. Now, if we are allowed to follow this idea that the feds are behind major politically divisive events, then we have to ask ourselves who exactly was behind organizing the Stop the Steal rally event itself. And interestingly enough, on the quote unquote Republican side, Christian Zionist pastors were heavily involved in not just influencing the public right understanding right away, telling the public the Republicans that we had to fight for justice. They went out immediately follow the following the election results. One person was Lance Wallow.

3 (12m 26s):
Okay, I want you to remember this guy's name. Lance Wallow. Immediately just three days after the election of 2020 on November 6th, he publishes this onto his Facebook page, okay? It says, we're going to expose the fraud and stop the steal the Lord our God is with us. And we were built for this battle. Be strong and courageous. So that's three days after he's saying, stop the steal, be strong, be courageous. And Lance, who is a charismatic preacher, wasn't the only charismatic preacher or pastor that instantly threw their weight behind, quote unquote stopping the steal. Actually four out of the six protest permits that were issued on January 6th were issued to independent charismatic Christian groups.

3 (13m 14s):
Okay? 15 of these pastors and leaders surrounded Trump at the White House leading up to the January 6th stop the steal rally telling him that the war was now spiritual. So there in his ear, this is spiritual, this is what you have to do, Mr. President. Okay, there's an article about that. It's the new Apostolic Reformation drove the January 6th riots. So why was it overlooked by the House Select Committee? This person asks, okay, N ar na, I brought this up to you before Lance Wallow is in this article. So is Sean Foyt. Now you're thinking these names might sound familiar, certainly Sean Foy.

3 (13m 54s):
I brought him up to you regarding TPUS faith who, who started to lead these events that they were having. So who is Lance Wall while now? Well he is one of these nar preachers, like I said, who came up with their seven mountain mandate. Okay? Charlie began to be, get, become very interested in the seven Mountain mandate. I would say like he became mesmerized by the seven Mountain mandate. He became friends with Lance Wall. Now I'm going to let you listen to Lance himself describe this seven mountain mandate in his own words.

7 (14m 29s):
Hi, I'm Lance Wall. Now I wanna talk to you for a moment about this concept called the seven M mandate in reality. It started with a conversation I had in the year 2000. I had been talking to Lauren Cunningham, who's the founder of Youth with a Mission. And Lauren was sharing with me about a conversation he had had with Bill Bright. The two of them were visited actually by the Lord within the same 24 hours. And God spoke to them and said they had a message to give the other man. And the message was that there are seven molders of culture or seven world kingdoms and that he who could take those kingdoms could take the harvest of nations. Now this illustration is the way I see it.

7 (15m 9s):
I look at it this way. I see those seven molders of culture as being the religion mountain as a metaphor for something you've gotta take or climb. Then we have education. We could say family. These are in no particular order of importance. They all represent the forces that shape societies and nations. Government, media, art, which is the entertainment mountain and business, which is where we have the economics mountain happening also. Now, these seven fields of influence are very powerful. So powerful in fact that who occupies the top of those mountains can literally shape the agenda that that forms nations.

7 (15m 54s):
The foundation of the prosperity of nations is going to have to be the teaching of Jesus. The good news is you can do that covert or you can do that overt. You can be, like I always say, you could actually be following that thing from Jehovah rfi, Jehovah Nii, Jehovahs Canoe or Jehovah Sneaky because God has a way of getting it into positions, companies, businesses, nations, and communities before the devil even knows what got in there. Because the gospel is bigger than just the church mountain. It's the gospel that covers the whole earth.

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3 (17m 1s):
What he's describing there and what they believe is that there are new prophets, there are new apostles. They have this seven mountain mandate. And when he is speaking about covertly, he means that, okay, this is a philosophy of infiltration. And he says, but before people even know, boom, he describes it as a double before people know, boom, everyone around them is actually working for a higher purpose. Man, I gotta say kind of, sort of reminds me of what happened to Charlie, right? This is kind of where this is going. Turning point Faith everywhere that I'm investigating Turning Point, faith keeps coming up. These characters keep coming up. And there's a pattern that I'm noticing that a lot of these mainstream pastors and preachers actually come from high ranking military families, high ranking military families that have been around for a long time, ties to the Navy Times, ties to the Air Force.

3 (17m 54s):
Frank Turk, air Force, Rob McCoy, we discussed about his background, his naval background, psychological operations there literally named like a fleet of ships after his father. Like there was like the McCoy Naval something, Lance Wallow, he's no different. He graduated from a military academy. His father Carl Wallow was a major in the United States Air Force. Okay? Wallow served under General Patton after the war. He then continued his adventures as a field engineer for standard oil, okay? Building high pressure, liquid propane installations throughout political revolutions in the world.

3 (18m 36s):
So he, he would go and do that in Haiti and Cuba, Dominican Republic places that I would argue that we cause a lot of drama in. I'm just saying. So Lance fits the pattern well. And before I tell you how he is very connected to Turning Point USA faith. I do wanna also be clear that Frank Turk stands out because he flat out acknowledged on one of his podcasts that NAR was a cult actually darker than a cult. Take a listen to what Frank Turk said about nar.

10 (19m 5s):
So technically a group and NAR stands for what again, I'm sorry, the new Apostolic Reformation. That's Bill Johnson out there in California, in Northern California. We'll talk about him in a minute. But word of faith movement, they don't necessarily add, subtract, multiplier, divide, but they're hermeneutic. The way they interpret the scriptures is aberrant. Yes. And it, and they interpret the scriptures in such a way that their practice follows this aberrant theology that they have and they wind up doing things that are more new agey or more even OC cult-like than yes they are Christian,

3 (19m 46s):
The occult. And that is correct. Now, Frank Tark didn't stop him. Didn't, or I didn't make him go warn Charlie about this in any way. As these people began to infiltrate his organization and Lance Wallow worked his way into Turning Point USA, I had a phone call with someone, by the way, who's extremely close to this current administration and they said completely offhandedly. We, we were not even really discussing Charlie, but then they said, you know something that's really weird, I was at Charlie's memorial. She said, when did Turning Point become so faith focused? She's like, I remember obviously Charlie always spoke about his evangelical faith. She's like, but when you guys were running around starting all these Turning point chapters, it was all about free markets and capitalism.

3 (20m 27s):
And she was like, and I was at the rally and it was suddenly Faith, faith, faith, faith, pastor, pastor, pastor, pastor. And I said, you know, that is actually interesting. That is true that it just kind of started and then it was almost the biggest thing about Turning Point. It's really interesting to consider that Turning point suddenly got super d duper faithful with what I would say is an interesting cast of characters, the wrong characters. Okay, Rob McCoy leading that frontier as we know, what people don't know publicly is that Lance Wallow was working with him, okay? He was intimately involved in more importantly he was financially involved sources within Turning Point's.

3 (21m 8s):
Faith department tell me that Lance was running the show behind the scenes through funding that he put a ton of money into Turning Point USA faith operations. Now I guess a, a better way for me to state this because I wanna be super clear here, is that Lance Wall now who's from a military family and who is saying that he believes in infiltration as a means to climb mountains and overtake society. However, he just described that right? Was privately directing large sums of money into Turning Point Faith. Okay? He's friends with Rob Macau, Rob McCoy and he eventually did Tour Stops with Turning Point Faith and he knew Charlie, he said Charlie was his friend.

3 (21m 54s):
I think truly as a society that we need to start focusing our attention, okay? Independently I village Crazy lady, I told you guys about Mel on X, she's been doing great work on this, but you need to start investigating this faith mil military constellation. We can call it the militant faith pipeline 'cause it's getting a little much for me. I mean I told you guys, you start looking at that and you wonder about other events that have happened in the past, right? There were a ton of conspiracies following October 1st, 2017 when the Las Vegas shooting happened. Largest mass shooting in American history and it was almost instantly covered up.

3 (22m 37s):
58 people were murdered, more than 600 others were injured. And they told us that it was just a lone shooter. Steven Paddock, some crazy guy who acted alone, conspiracy theorists said it was a military operation and there was a ton of evidence to support that. Okay, fast forward a year later on November 7th, 2018 and there's almost this like Las Vegas shooting hangover that happens in Thousand Oaks, California. Oddly about 40 people who were at the Las Vegas shooting were all at the borderline bar one night when a Marine who's family knows Rob McCoy, well Rob McCoy is friends with that Marine Dec decides to that Marine's mother decides to storm into a bar and conduct a mass shooting and a victim of that bar shooting was a 27-year-old Navy veteran who had survived the Las Vegas shooting.

3 (23m 36s):
So it just makes me wonder, was he a victim or was he a target? Right? We have to start asking these questions. This is a, a headline from the BBC regarding the Las Vegas shooting and thousand, I'm sorry, the thousand Oak shooting at the borderline bar and grill, the Las Vegas shooting survivor being among the dead. We're not getting answers to any of these questions and they're telling everybody that these are just conspiracies. It's always a conspiracy when you start questioning these sped narratives. One survivor said that the group of them were meeting up for a second time in about a year having I guess like a little Las Vegas reunion and that's why they were all there.

3 (24m 17s):
The the point being is following this, a month after this Rob McCoy then gets elected Mayor of of Thousand Oaks, he's mayor for a year. And I'm just starting to ask a lot of questions about what is happening here. Who is funding these groups? Who is funding these pastors, who is funding these churches? We're getting a lot of weird stories about these churches that are coming out. I shared something over the weekend about Romanian sex trafficking on my, on my ex feeded that is involving one of these churches, one of these big churches out in California.

3 (24m 57s):
And I'm saying it's time to start prodding the narrative because I'm thinking that perhaps faith has been hijacked. And like I said, and we are going to have some explosive stuff for you on Wednesday that we have discovered about this Charlie case. The faith element is compelling and I am not convinced that these people that stand on stages and tell you to stop following Tucker Carlson are working on behalf of the Lord. Okay? I don't think that that's the case. I think these people that are telling you that you are not allowed to question Israel or you're gonna go to hell are not working on behalf of God.

3 (25m 38s):
I think that they worship specific people with military ties. In fact, they are just following orders. But there's a picture here that's emerging that we should not ignore. So what we will pause there before we get into some of these bizarre responses that I've been going through, militant responses that I've been going through on X from Christian Zionists. We'll be right back.

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3 (28m 7s):
So there is definitely something going on here with these mega churches and these mega pastors. And what I was just referring to in the monologue was in California where a lot of these churches megachurches are, there's been another megachurch pastor that was accused of trafficking children. They have trafficking children from Romania of all places. And that former megachurch pastor, I'm gonna give you his name here, Paul Hagard, right? A missionary. Again, this element of missionary going around the world on these missions, I just, something is just stinking to high heaven and I like to press my finger here and I don't particularly love the reaction that we're seeing from Christian Zionists right now.

3 (28m 49s):
I don't even know how to describe what is happening over in Christian Zionist land. It is wacky. It's, it's definitively exceptional. I've never seen it. There's anger, there's tears, there's frustration, there's fatigue, there's defeat. And of course there's biblical scripture, right? When my show hit number one globally last week, it was just an all out virtual war. Seth Dylan from the Babylon Beach tweeted this. This is a hilarious, he obviously just tweets a verse trying to make it seem like again, this is what they do. Christian Z, they will find Abu a verse to be petty and like use scripture to justify who they really just wanna insult me or turn Carlson to. And what do you benefit if you gain the whole world but lose your own soul?

3 (29m 32s):
Okay. Like that's not like that is, are you out of your mind? Actually, I didn't sell my soul, right? All of you guys did. I had to literally build from scratch because I was rejected everywhere. Plus canceled you, you shut down, you went after my sponsors, you emailed people, you got me banned from Australia. I actually did the exact opposite. I didn't sell my soul. And I said what was right about what was happening in Gaza? So there's that Joel Berry who also is at the Babylon B. So real funny guys wrote this in the last year, Candace and Tucker have given our side nothing but demoralization division. Confusion and conflict. Their impact on the right has been devastating.

3 (30m 13s):
They've made us weaker and they've won nothing except clicks and add revenue for themselves. Pathetic, strange. I've never been on the same side as Joel Berry. Just wanna clarify that I am never on the side of people that cheer on kids being killed and churches being bombed and and insinuate as he did that even the Christians in Gaza should are aren't really human beings and that they're all supporting Hamas, which is basically justifying a genocide, right? Justification of genocide. I have never been on your side. Then there were these compounding lies, okay? Obviously last week we watched Ben Press Meghan on stage. Very strange to see him do something like that, to see him just lie and try to pressure her with the lie.

3 (30m 58s):
And it was also on the day that it was announced that this podcast was number one globally. I responded on my show with the truth, showed you screenshots of what Charlie had said, said, told you honestly that he had kind of prevented Charlie from coming up. And that was certainly how Charlie felt. And then some guy on Frank mc named Frank McCormick on X started circulating. And then of course I in instantly made a trend that I forged the text messages that I just made 'em up and I was just gonna be so risky and throw these text messages up and just lie as if I wasn't going to get debunked quickly. Anyways, this is what he wrote on there. Candace Owens recently posted what she claims are more text messages from Charlie Kirk.

3 (31m 41s):
He asked chat GPT to analyze, look at this next one if you wanna skip over to the next he, he analyzed the bubble design, the profile placement, the header layout, font, spacing, color, balance. And he discovered that these were digitally fabricated. Bro, you didn't have to do any of that. You could just ask me to show you the messages. I, I show messages on this show. Like I'm happy to show you guys this live. So just to give you the receipts here. Wait, Skylar, can you tell me my ear? What are the message even say, 'cause I can look it up. Just gimme like the sentence. Okay, keep going.

3 (32m 23s):
Okay, hold on. That's not populating. It was 'cause I, the way that it's spaced. Can you gimme the sentence after that? There we go. That will work. We just have to treat him like noise. Are there typos in that? Here we go. I found it. There we go. A little bit of typos. There we go. Okay, here we go guys. Just to show you this just looked up in my phone. These are not made up text messages. You probably wanna see the date here and see the time sliding. Hold on.

3 (33m 4s):
We did not make up these messages. Okay, iron sharpens iron. It's not a dominance partnership. Each hand washes the other. It is what Christ talked about as true partnership reliant yet separate, none other dominant. Of course there is struggle, disagreement, but each side gets stronger and sharper because of the other. This is us describing our partnership. These are just real. Like what an absolute nonsense to think that I would make up text messages. Like it's just such a nonsense. I don't even know what would be the point of that. What would be the point of that? Okay, I was very clear at the beginning of this entire thing, no fakeness and no gayness. You know, I ask that if you, you know, didn't get along with Charlie, you don't think that you could just drop a million dollars and then rewrite history.

3 (33m 48s):
Okay, you might have money, we have truth. That's what's on our side. Also, to build upon that, I saw a clip of Ally Stuckey who I very much like I ve I've been clear about that. I very much like stuck ally Suckey. I'm very surprised she's working with Alyssa Cordova, but she's also in very rare form. I don't know what's driving that. And she kind of, I guess I don't know when this live was taken, presumably over the last week, I just saw it circulating, said to people that we should shouldn't be asking these questions about the Charlie Kirk assassination. Anyways, I'm not gonna put words in your mouth. Listen to Allie Stuckey.

11 (34m 22s):
I'm just really tired of some of y'all not thinking I really am. You say that you're seeking truth and asking questions, but you're actually just outsourcing your critical thinking and you're question asking to someone else. And you're never really asking questions. You're never saying, does that make sense? Or what could be the other side of that story? Or what is the alternative explanation for that? Or are these two things actually connected by evidence or does it just sound compelling? This is not a Netflix series, it's not an Agatha Christie novel, you're not watching a who done it movie. These are people's real lives. And if you are implicating a real person in a murder plot, you better be 100% sure that it is true and backed by hard evidence.

11 (35m 7s):
Think turn on your brain. The thoughts we think and the words we say not only affect real people's lives, but they carry weight in eternity. We are responsible for these things. I'm gonna take that seriously, but you should too. Look, y'all, I don't even want, there's, I've just been wrestling with this so much over the past few weeks. I don't want the drama. I don't, I don't have the, the, the time and energy that it takes to go through to make all of these claims first is incredible. But then to go through and debunk all of these claims, I don't have that time. I don't have that energy, I don't have that capacity.

11 (35m 47s):
I don't

3 (35m 52s):
Look, Allie, I, I just think she should take a break. Like I genuinely didn't even know she was going through it like this. Like I didn't, I don't think we asked her for any assistance at all. Actually. I did all the work and people sent me stuff and then we put together a timeline and here's what I wanna say. 'cause you're saying it's real life. It was Charlie's real life ally. That was Charlie's real life when you saw him sitting there and he got shot, that was his real life. So I feel like that that's the part you're missing 'cause you're so worried about the surrounding cast of characters who have been literally caught lying. They lied. That's why we're here. Okay? We didn't just randomly pluck people up from obscurity, okay? These are people who said he had blood on him. He's amazing. He was so amazing. But he walked away from Charlie as he was bleeding out his real life.

3 (36m 32s):
That was his real life. Okay? So that's what's on the line right here is he's not here anymore. Maybe you're not worried about him, but I am, I'm actually worried and I wanna know what happened to Charlie Kirk, okay? And why I feel like you and so many Christian Zionists just kind of wanted to turn him into a ghost like you know, Charlie, the friendly ghost and are not interested at all. And if you're looking for real life Agatha Christie stuff in real life, people's necks don't stop. 30 odd six bullets in real life. That's all I'm saying. In real life, when you spend millions of dollars on security, on your security detail, they don't have you sitting like a sitting duck and forget to have an ambulance behind you In real life.

3 (37m 14s):
I worked for Turning Point USA and I know what does not make sense in terms of the timeline of how this event came together. And in real life, if somebody suspects you in a murder for any reason whatsoever, and you can put something out publicly that will clarify a fact that isn't correct. If you say it's not correct, you would do that. You wouldn't hide in four seconds. I would say, oh, this is, oh the reason why I was on the phone with so-and-so had nothing to do with anything. So people are following their instincts 'cause they should. But I just wanna remind you 'cause it bothers me that that was Charlie's real life. Okay? That was Charlie's real life ally, right? And move on for that. See you're stressed out. I'm stressed out too, to be honest with you. And we're not the only people that are stressed out because apparently Grok is stressed out because it can't keep up with the lies that are being spread about me.

3 (37m 59s):
So he had some sort of a, a software crash out. This was him being like, I'm tired, I'm tired and sitting in his car, I'm just gonna show you what Grok said at the top here. No, I want the grok headline. Candace Owens accuses Turning point USA of Charlie Kirk assassination role. And then it says Candace Owens alleged turning point USA orchestrated the October 15th, 2025 assassination of its founder Charlie Kirk in Phoenix, Arizona by former volunteer Marcus Hale, who police say acted alone with no evidence. Ben Shapiro publicly condemned Owens's claims as evil.

3 (38m 41s):
And then yeah, he, it's just none of this is real. Like you guys are exhausting. Not just Ali Stuckey, you're exhausting grok so much, so many lives are being made up about me. If you don't have time to look at the facts and see what we've come up with and that's fine. But you're not required to interject here. I just want everybody I know that Grok Ali, everyone, you are not required to take part in this and we're not stopping. Okay? And I just sense, I just sense that we're getting close. And when I tell you on Wednesday what we discovered about those Egyptian military planes, I think some more people are gonna be on the run anyways, the oddest response came from Mark Levin, who has been kind of psychopath obsessed with destroying Tucker Carlson for years now.

3 (39m 27s):
He was very happy when Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox News. They don't seem to be friends. And it regarding Mark Levin, if a person was actually like, you should move to Israel because it would make you happy, happier if that was a person, that would be Mark Levin. Okay? Turning point USA credit to them said, we are not canceling Tucker Carlston, despite the pure pressure, despite them sending out every Queen and pawn on the board to make that happen. They said he's still speaking. And not only is he speaking, but why don't, why don't you debate Mark Levin debate Tucker Carlson on stage. And this is how Mark Levin responded. It's incredible. And I'm actually gonna roll the whole thing. It's about two and a half minutes, but I want you guys to listen to him.

12 (40m 9s):
I got a very strange text this morning from Tucker Carlson 10:16 AM I'll read it to you for verbatim. Good morning. He writes to me, the leadership at Turning Point has asked me to debate you at their event in Scottsdale in December. I'm happy to do it and I hope you'll agree as well. Beyond the personal insults, which I'll try to keep to a minimum, there are real and important ideological differences between us and I think the country would benefit from an extended conversation about them. So again, I hope you'll accept. Let me know. Thanks. The guy is desperate. He's taken a hit on his podcast.

12 (40m 52s):
He's fighting like hell for his career. He's fighting like hell for his reputation. People are awakening to what scum he actually is. And he thinks I'm gonna platform him. He thinks I'm gonna help him kick up his podcast ratings. What would Charlie say? What would rush say? What would any rational response? Here it is. I wrote him the following, my family. And I want nothing to do with you. What you've become your vi liables against my faith, millions of Christians. And in my view, what you seek to do to our country. There's nothing to debate. You're a Nazi promoter.

12 (41m 32s):
You're the modern day David Duke. I debate people with whom I disagree for a living who are a lot smarter than you, but for whom I have some respect. I'm also disappointed in T-P-U-S-A that continues to platform you. It's not about free speech. You could be heard by millions regardless. Some unsolicited advice. Stop long enough to remember who you used to be and what you used to stand for. So as expected knee jerk, for the record, I'm strongly anti-Nazi. Does he sound that way to you? America? Oh, you're gonna hear more, but that's hardly the point.

12 (42m 12s):
This seems like the perfect opportunity to rebut what you consider evil ideas and to do it to my face like a man. I think you jump at the chance, assuming you believe your positions are defensible. I'm offering the marketplace of ideas. You often talk about is it possible you can't really defend, for example, what Israel has done to civilians in Gaza. I said, there you go. You're not feared, you're despised. Well, you're a coward. And if you change your mind, I'm here. Thanks. You are a little bastard. You attack my my stepson son. You didn't do that face to face, did you?

12 (42m 53s):
You stabbed him in the back while he is serving President Trump on his second tour, while he is in safe rooms with ballistic missiles passing over his head. You little bastard. Nobody's afraid of you. I'd rather debate a skunk than you.

3 (43m 13s):
Is he good? Is everybody okay? Like what? This would be your opportunity to reveal Tucker Carlson to the world since you say like that he is a fraud and he is lying and all of his stuff. Like why wouldn't you readily accept that debate? Why are you so focused on canceling him an LOL to you saying that you don't wanna platform Tucker Carlson? Yeah, you know what I decided on this podcast? I'm not gonna platform Taylor Swift. Yeah, I'm not gonna platform her. So if she ever wants to come with this podcast, I will not platform. Are you this delusion? You cannot be that delusional. You cannot be that delusional. What are you saying? Something is happening. I'm telling you guys, this is like a full Zionist crash out since Charlie died.

3 (43m 56s):
And I just feel like they sent a very real threat to the little matrix that they established. And so much so that I'm actually proud to announce that I have finally caught the final Pokemon ball. I've long said that in terms of the names I get called in the media, I feel like I'm, I'm playing Pokemon, I just gotta catch every single ball when they try to cancel you, that's what they do. They call you all sorts of things. anti-Semitic. I've been called a self-hating black person. I've been called a homophobe. I've been called a trans phobe. I've been called crazy. I've been diagnosed as suffering from postpartum depression or postpartum psychosis, a postpartum depression. And I didn't think there was anything left for me to grab, but it's here, it's final.

3 (44m 39s):
I've now won the game and they are calling me a cult leader. Yeah. So because I survived all their attacks and I have focused my energy on what I wanted to build and not on who I wanted destroy, they have decided that that's because I'm leading a cult. Now, when I think of a cult, I typically think of people who say like, oh, you're gonna get into heaven if you defend BB net and Yahoo. Right? It says it right here in the Bible. And if you don't unfollow Candace Owens, you won't go to heaven. That to me is cult language. Promising people that their souls are are somehow tied to following your instructions. I'm just trying to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk. Okay, that's all I wanna know. What killed my friend?

3 (45m 20s):
Well, Carrie Smith, who is the host of the podcast Deprogrammed with Carrie Smith, says that she was formally of a cult mindset. And so she's an expert on this and she has now watched 10 episodes of this show. She watched the Charlie Kirk series and she has determined that if you are interested in what I have to say and what I am uncovering about Charlie Kirk's assassination, then you, you at home are in a cult. Take it away, Carrie.

13 (45m 49s):
I do think it's a cult. I think she is exhibiting several cult tactics. She's demonstrating several different tactics. I think she's using manipulative language and a lot of cluster personality disorder behavior. I think that it's easy to observe that, but apparently it's, it's not easy for some people, I guess. And I'm, I'm assuming maybe that's because they haven't been through that before with someone. Maybe they haven't experienced it before. And so this is not an episode for people who are in that cult. It's not an episode for people who are just hanging on every word and following it.

13 (46m 29s):
And I've interacted with quite a few of you, and I'm not trying to convince you, you're obviously not gonna be happy with this episode and call me all kinds of names. I've been over the weekend called every kind of a Jew, a Jew lover. I'm getting paid 7,000, why don't I go suck, blah blah blah. Like just terrible. Very angry things. And that's okay. This isn't for you. This is an episode for Normies who are trying to figure out what's happening because like a lot of us, they used to put a lot of trust in Candace Owens and some of these other influential figures. And they're like, what is happening?

13 (47m 10s):
What happened to her?

3 (47m 12s):
So what happened to me was that I, I saw Charlie Kirk shot in the throat, but I do wanna, can you just bring her up for a second without playing it? I, I, I can't be the only person that's really stressed out by how she's organizing those books. Like that is like I've, that is, that is, I don't like the way those books are at all. That really is stressing me out. So whew. She's lucky I'm not nine months pregnant. 'cause this would not fly. I would be organizing that. Like why are the different levels? Anyways, she's queen of diagnosing this, I guess cluster B personality. Now what I will say is this is, if you go back any fed operation, COVID, whenever you don't follow the federal narrative, if you not listen to the government, they always diagnose you with Machiavellian, what do they call it?

3 (47m 53s):
Like the dark triad traits. Machiavellian narcissistic. And they say that you're in a cult. If you don't wear a mask, save lives. They did the same exact stuff. You can go back, literally go back. This is their final stage of we're not getting people to behave and listen to us. So we're gonna diagnose them. And she listed all of the reasons, the signs that I was in a cult. And about seven of them, she, one of them is forced teaming. She says that I use inclusive language like us, us, we, we, we will solve this again, what is it about they and we, what is it about plurality that stresses these people out so much? These are just words. I do think we are going to solve this.

3 (48m 34s):
I say we because all the information I have is thanks to the tip slide. So we're all kind of in this together trying to put the pieces together to figure out who killed Charlie. Yeah. She also says that I repeat myself constantly, that I use sarcasm. And I would say that this is sounding a lot like my toddlers who could be in a cult. Now that she, now that I'm thinking about it, she might be right because they are laughing, they, they're sarcastic, they definitely have used terms like we and us when they address me and their father and they repeat themselves the whole time. The whole time. So stay tuned. And then my favorite part is that she says like we have a phrase and it's, if you don't know no, it seems like we don't know.

3 (49m 19s):
No, but we know. And she says that, that that's somehow cult. I don't know, it's a part of the cult stuff. So I guess I'm the cult of telling you to think for yourself and to trust your gut. And if something seems like it's wrong, it's 'cause it probably is wrong. And the government telling you to violate that, to ignore your sense, your senses to believe something that is just truly unbelievable. Like a 30 odd six got stopped by Charlie's neck because miracle. Yeah, trust yourself. That's, that is kind of the goal here is to let people stop committing to government group think, which is how they control us all and also make us hate each other. It is just a fact that the greatest threat to governments and what this is really about, it is the left and the right coming together, right?

3 (50m 2s):
This is like the thing that they have to prevent. And this is why I am now number one in who they are attacking. I'm talking about the military industrial complex, which has been ruling our nation for a very long time. I'm encouraging people to read books, to learn about the history of psychology and why they do these sorts of things like diagnose you. I'm telling people that they should homeschool their kids, right? So they don't end up like us. And when I say like us committed to one side or the other, convinced that we have things figured out when we're shouting at each other and not looking at the real power apparatus that sits behind. So to that extent, I do understand why Tucker and I have become threat number one, showing that you can survive outside of their matrix. Not taking money, not taking the money that makes you fearful to speak out and surviving it.

3 (50m 46s):
But beyond that, yeah, no, I really would not say that we are leading a cult, but we're not getting rid of this. First off, we don't know. No, but we know. Okay. And it's a fact. And we are gonna solve the Charlie Kirk murder. So we'll take a quick break and then I'll read some of your comments.

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3 (53m 16s):
Alright, top comment from Friday's episode. Think before you type wrote Ben Shapiro was all for Candace Owens, keeping it real with the black community until she started keeping it real with Israel. And that my friend is a fact. And here's the thing, I don't care who you are. I'm an equal opportunity offender. If you're being stupid and what you're saying doesn't make sense, I'm going to call it out. Whether you're, there's nothing that's gonna protect you. Being a woman's not gonna protect you, being black, being Jewish, none of it's, it's just not gonna work if you're gonna use identity politics. And right now it is just the case that Zionists are being a little cray cray. A lot of cray cray, very cray cray and kind of dangerous. Also, I wanna tell you, by the way, one of the things that she mentioned as sign of a cult was me reading comments at the end.

3 (54m 1s):
Obviously you guys pay for me to read these comments and you guys compliment me, which is very kind. And so she said that me reading your comments is a cult leader tactic. So, but I'm gonna keep reading these comments. Us flag pole, guy writes, we love you Candace, we pray for you and your family and for truth, fight, fight, fight. Thank you so much for that donation. Stephanie writes, Charlie knew that you would have the strength of iron against their fighting words when the battleground was set. You are a truly armor bearer. Be my David. Yeah, they've cited that as well. And I was like, I just shared Charlie's messages and he knew he was gonna die. And that is actually, in retrospect, incredibly compelling. And I wish I had, I mean, guess there's nothing else I could, there's nothing I could have done if, if, if there's really nothing I could have done.

3 (54m 44s):
I have to remind myself of that. Zammit writes Candace number one worldwide secret sauce. She speaks to us, not at us. Yeah, we're just trying to figure out what's going on. And we know that what they're telling us is going on is definitely not what's going on. And my requirement's pretty easy. Are you interested? They're asking you to be an idiot. Just be an idiot. Just it is just this narrative regarding Charlie Kirk is just, I've never seen any situation where they didn't present a shred of proof for their narrative, not a shred of proof. They won't show us a clear picture of Tyler Robinson on that day, despite all the cameras that would do a lot if they just dropped one clear image, right?

3 (55m 27s):
We would be like, oh, at least he was on campus. Like at least we can get there. Nothing. They're just like, trust us 1000% and we're gonna make the physics. It's totally, everything's impossible, but just trust us. We're asking for such little, if you actually go back and appreciate how the story has unfolded, we are basically saying we would've taken the bare minimum and maybe accepted some of this narrative. They're giving us nothing and telling us to swallow it whole. We just can't do that. Okay? We just cannot do that. Mickey Shaw writes, we love you, Candace. Well, you know what? Go tell that to Col lady. She's gonna be really upset about that. Aries girl writes seven seven mil, 7 million, oh seven.

3 (56m 8s):
Mountain mandate you're referring to makes me think of Satan, tempting Christ in the quote from Elder Ephraim, the person who limits his mind to the, to the name of Christ, the hour of death, the beauty of paradise and the love of God will purge it of every demonic contemplation. The note here is F rm. F RM was a revered Greek Orthodox hero. Monk, higher monk is, that's a higher monk. Yeah, I'm not that familiar with that either. And the Greek Orthodox Diocese of America. Okay, that's very interesting. And what I will say is it's giving cults to say you, you can infiltrate in the name of the Lord and which means be deceptive, right?

3 (56m 49s):
You can be deceptive in the name of the Lord. It doesn't make me feel good knowing that he was putting money into turning Point USA faith. And like I said, we are going to have some exclusive revelations on Wednesday that's gonna make you rethink everything. And turning point. Faith keeps coming up in this investigation. I think money was being interjected and I don't think, I think when Charlie raised his head and realized something was wrong, and that's why he established Doge, he made some real enemies. I I, Charlie was too brilliant to just ask a question. He would've arrived at the answer very quickly. He learned very quickly. He processed information very quickly, and to the extent that he was paying attention, he would've found out that is, that's just a fact.

3 (57m 34s):
I it is not a small thing. They tried to reduce it. It's not a small thing that Charlie suddenly was wondering about where the money was coming from and where it was going to. On that note, later on this week, we'll be, have having a guest join us that will speak on Friday about Turning Points finances. And that's going to paint a big picture. It's gonna make a lot of sense why some people are freaking out about this investigation, pretending to be his friend coming up with ridiculously stupid conclusions about how I betrayed him. Or I lied when I said I didn't give a single interview regarding Charlie. I was in a true stage of grief. I didn't offer a single interview. Well, Alex Clark figured out, she rumbled me that I spoke to CNN in a, I had already scheduled CNN for my book promo.

3 (58m 21s):
And we kept the interview on September 27th or something and she's like, well, she lied. She spoke to CNN. That interview was supposed to be exclusively about my book, book promotion. My background, what brought me to this moment, and actually Reeves did not even get to my book at all. She didn't mention my book at all, which is quite stunning in, in retrospect by the end, because she was trying to hammer me, not on the Charlie stuff, but she was trying to hammer me so much on Zionism. You know, Israel is kind of what she wanted to speak about. And then Bridgette Macron is what she wanted to speak about.

MAKE HIM A SANDWICH (58m 57s):
Anyways, speaking of this book, I loved seeing this online. Make him a sandwich. Somebody in Serbia got the book and her husband fake signed it. He forged my signature and he wrote to her, I can't read her name. Dear Kiki, please make me a sandwich and I can't read that. Something, something. And then he signs it himself, he signs it. Xo xo Candace, I love this idea of men fake signing my book to try to get their wives to do stuff. So I had to pull that out. That's all the way from Belgrade Serbia. I reached out to her and we're now gonna send her a free signed copy 'cause it made me giggle so much this morning. And if you guys would like to get your copy, you can go to make him a sandwich.com. This book is doing fantastic and we're really excited about that.

3 (59m 41s):
So yeah, what else do I have for you guys? Thank you for supporting me. Twitter is crazy. X is crazy. I don't know why, but there's a Zionist picture that is emerging in this story. It's a faith picture. Be wary of the influencers who are trying to struggle session you into believing that, actually recognizing that what they are telling us makes virtually zero sense is somehow a sin. I would say this isn't an aga Agatha Christie novel. Real life is actually better than an Agatha Christie novel. I'm realizing there is so much corruption that is happening and we are now in a time of tremendous revelation.

3 (1h 0m 22s):
So if you are working for the sight of darkness, you are probably right about now on notice. We'll see you guys on Wednesday.

11/8/25
Ben Shapiro Is Crying Again. | Candace Ep 261



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2 (31s):
Okay, 9 1 1. I wanna report a blood libel. Blood libel. I've suffered a centuries old anti-black trope. That's how this works, right? Like if you're in the pro-Israel lobby and you deal with any sort of pushback or flack, you gotta fall to the ground and cry victim. Well, it's my turn now you guys, because yesterday Ben Shapiro, who was invited as a guest to join Meg and Kelly on her tour, he pretty much just goes mask down and it's obviously hilarious. He just lies. It's so weird. He just has nothing. So he lies and tries to pressure Meghan to respond to the lies. All I can say is the pro-Israel lobby is down real bad. They're writing fan fiction.

2 (1m 12s):
They're like, it's like BB net in Yahoo Fan fiction. And on that note, I sat down with a woman on CNN and it went about as bad as you might've expected. Fantastic clips that are making the round. So let's jump right back into this. Happy Friday and welcome back to Candace. I don't know what to say other than it was the purest form of anti-black is that I've ever experienced. I mean, it's obvious to me that Ben Ben Shapiro is manifestly insane.

2 (1m 55s):
Last night he was gripping the microphone as he would the neck of a black woman. I'm kidding. Obviously those are not my quotes. Those are actually direct quotations from Ben Shapiro himself when he accuses others of antisemitism, whenever he hears anything that he doesn't like about Israel. Tho, those are actually his words. This is a real live tweet from Ben Shapiro accusing any American Jew who is pro-Israel of being Israel First is a pure fo form of antisemitism that was directed at Nick Fuentes, which we'll circle back to. Also, this was a real tweet directed at Ron Paul. Ron Paul is manifestly insane, as in previous debates. He is now gripping the pen as he would the neck of a Jew.

2 (2m 40s):
Ron Paul, really, and this is another tweet Perry had the memorable moments of the evening, had had the memorable moments of the evening evening, other than Ron Paul's corpse leaning forward from the grave and strangling the Jews. I don't know what's going on, man. I don't know what to say other than Ben is a funny guy. He is. He's never trying to be funny. He just is funny when he's being serious and he's being seriously angry about a topic. It's just something that I enjoy to watch. And last night he got on stage with Megan Kelly. They had, she had a tour stop in Florida. And I wanna say I was kind of impressed with Ben because instead of doing his usual thing where he sends others to do his dirty work so he can keep his hands clean, he was like, I'm gonna peer pressure Megan Kelly, myself.

2 (3m 31s):
I'm gonna make her disavow me, make her disavow Candace Owens. I'm gonna make her disavow Tucker Carlson by putting her on the spot and asking her to respond to things that Tucker Carlson never did. And Candace Owens never did or said. And it's, you really get to see it masked down because you saw this narrative circulating amongst people who were just absurdly making claims that I attacked Erica and I know what these organic movements look like. I know how they operate behind the scenes, and I know Ben plays a part in this. And so it was actually quite refreshing for me to be like, ah, now everyone gets to see what you are, because you're saying stuff that never happened. So we'll start with what he said about Tucker Carlson.

2 (4m 11s):
You should know Ben has a real thing for Tucker Carlson. I don't understand it. It is just, I don't know, it's, it's been going on for a long time. There's something about Tucker Carlson that gets under his skin. I'm not clear on it. I would actually love to hear Ben speak about that. I mean, people have a daily wire when they're leaving a daily wire have to sign agreements that they're not gonna go work for Tucker Carlson for six months. It's, it's strange. Anyways, he jumps into this explaining his upset that like Tucker left him on red. I don't know. Tucker and him had a nice conversation on the day that Charlie Kirk died. And Tucker then sent a nice text because Ben had called him. And I guess Ben thought there would be more of a follow-up.

2 (4m 51s):
And there wasn't. So here is Ben complaining about that. And then spinning it into the accusation that Tucker Carlson somehow supports Mom. Donny, I don't know, take a listen.

3 (5m 3s):
So I texted him and I said, thanks so much for calling. It means the world. It truly does. Should we do a show together talking about the DSA threat, democratic Socialist of America threat and orienting in the same direction, happy to do whatever it takes to bring everyone back together for the fight that matters. And Tucker then wrote back, thanks man, I appreciate it. I'm going to spend the next week or two thinking about how to be most effective. The country is clearly on the brink. I reached out repeatedly after that. Nothing happened. And again, I, I thought it was a good idea at the time. I, I, I, I think I felt differently after I saw what he did with, with Nick Fuentes. And after he proceeded, in my opinion, to spend these subsequent weeks doing literally nothing to fight the left.

3 (5m 43s):
I, again, I say this with sadness because Tucker used to be, I think a, a deeply important part of the conservative push to win. The number of times that Tucker Carlson has mentioned Zoran Malani since October 5th on his show is once. And it was in the context of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker Carlson talking about the appeal of Zoran Ani. Just by way of contrast, not because I'm a perfect representative here, but because you've talked about Zoran Ani a lot, a lot of us have since October 5th, I did 17 separate shows on Zohar Ani, including four in the last week before the election. Okay? Because when you're orienting against the left, you really should orient against the left.

2 (6m 23s):
So this just makes no sense. It makes entirely no sense. He's upset because I guess Tucker doesn't want to do a show with him in the future. A lot of stuff goes on in the background that you guys don't understand. So, okay, that's on Tucker. Tucker doesn't wanna collab with Ben. That's on him. Also, it's Tucker's platform. So what it means when you have your own show, which I don't know why the shocks Ben, is, you can talk about whatever you want. If Tucker wants to do six months and he just wants to cover sports, it's his prerogative. And people can tune in or they can tune out. That's what the free markets mean. The free markets does not mean that the very same people who tried to artificially push Tucker out of the markets, the same people that applauded him being fired, the same people that have called him Antisemite, then get to dictate what he speaks about on his show like that.

2 (7m 7s):
That actually just makes entirely no sense. It's not Tucker's responsibility. Tucker's not, doesn't live in New York City. It's not his responsibility to use his platform to speak about momani 17 times. It's very strange. But to the insinuation that Tucker somehow supported Momani and said like nice things about him when he sat down with Marjorie Taylor Green. Here's actually what Tucker said with Marjorie Taylor Greene. And you be the judge of whether you think Ben is being an honest a person when he describes it in the manner that he just did take a listen to Tucker.

4 (7m 38s):
It's interesting you said a second ago that when people are really frustrated when they're, the system they live under fails them, they listen to voices that they shouldn't listen to or wouldn't listen to under any other circumstance. Like, how did Al Sharp didn't get to be the leader of Black America or whatever. I mean, it's like just, it's a thing. Desperate people tend to go to crappy leaders, I think. And I just can't get over what happened in our biggest city this week, the very same week that everybody in DC is focused thousands of miles away on the greatest threat we face. Or Ron's nuclear program. I don't want Ron to have the bomb. I'm not pro Iran, obviously.

5 (8m 11s):
No, we're not pro Iran. Yeah. Like why do we have to say it? But we do.

4 (8m 15s):
Right? It's, it's, but there's the disclaimer. But at the same time that everybody was looking to Iran, our largest city had a democratic primary. Effectively the mayor's race and like 3-year-old socialist who wants government run grocery stores, gets, gets elected, he's gonna likely run our biggest city. Yeah. And in the, in the country, right?

5 (8m 38s):
New York.

4 (8m 39s):
And it's like, why did that happen? Is it because people are so like desperate for government run grocery stores or love socialism or love like foreign board and mid wis running their cities? Probably not. That guy was the only person in the New York City mayor's debate to say he wanted to focus on New York City. They were all the candidates were asked if you could visit a foreign country, what would it be? And they of course all had an answer. I think most said Israel great. And he said, I wouldn't go anywhere. I'd stay in New York and like if I want to meet Jewish constituents, I'd go to their synagogues, their homes or whatever. But I, I'd be here in New York. 'cause that's what I'm doing. I'm running New York. That's my job. Well, he gave the right answer. He gave the right answer. Yeah. He gave the right answer at least. And he's talking, I totally oppose his program just to be absolutely clear.

4 (9m 22s):
Yeah. I don't think it works. But he's talking about economics. Yep. And everyone else is talking about foreign policy. So

2 (9m 31s):
He said, what I said, I am describing to you why mom Donny won. And you're angry that people are assessing why that happened. Doesn't matter how many times you call somebody an antisemite, people appreciated. It's very obvious the fact that he was not focused on foreign policy issues when there's so many domestic ones to prove from. You gotta learn why you lose elections. And it's not Tucker's job to get people elected, least of all in cities that he doesn't live in. Now, I wanna also show you what Ben said about me because it's, it's so outrageous and it's so dishonest that you, we actually should process what is happening here. Okay? This is a watershed moment. Ben does not have it together.

2 (10m 13s):
He's very insecure and he's going on the attack against me, Kelly, by lying about what I said and then forcing her to react to the evil of what I never said. Here's what Ben said.

3 (10m 25s):
We're in a business where people comment on, on what we say publicly. The, you know, again, this is why, you know, I think you and I differ on our angle with regard to, for example, Candace Owens. I think that what Candace Owens is doing right now is evil. It is evil what she's doing right now. Okay? And I say that again,

6 (10m 42s):
But what, what, because evil, like I, I didn't know Pine on whether it's evil or not, but my, my position is it's really none of my business. And why, why is it?

3 (10m 49s):
But I have a question. Why is it none of your business? I mean, you, you, you comment on these things for a living.

6 (10m 54s):
I'm not mother of the internet.

3 (10m 55s):
No, but, but if this were on the left and somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of ha of his wife having murdered him, I assume that you would be talking about it.

6 (11m 2s):
Is that what Candace is accusing Erica of?

3 (11m 4s):
Yes. Of

6 (11m 5s):
Murdering her own husband?

3 (11m 6s):
She's, she's accusing T-P-U-S-A insiders and other members of the right wing, including Seth Dylan of being involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk. Yes.

2 (11m 16s):
It's just a, it's, I don't even know how to respond to it 'cause it just never happened. It's so crazy. It's so, he's not even anywhere near what's happened. Anybody who's watched this show, I actually was getting flack from my audience for not covering Erica's past or speaking about her parents. I said she gave one of the most consequential speeches and I have focused my investigation on Turning Point USA and why they're telling certain lies. Seth Dylan, I told the truth that Seth Dylan lied about the Hamptons meeting and that he was pushing, he was pressuring Charlie about the topic of Israel. I never once accused Seth Dylan of murdering Charlie Kirk. So what's he actually doing here? Right?

2 (11m 55s):
Obviously there's a lot of layers that we should peel back and it's important that we do it. The least interesting part of this is the fact that he is lying through his teeth. That's implied. He's a Zionist, but there's a lot more that's happening that meets the eye because Ben Shapiro was effectively the final boss of the pro-Israel lobby. And it's because he never comes out and says what he means. He's kind of like more of a behind the scenes person. And we're now watching him come undone in real time. Because no matter who you are in this age of digital media, it is simply not a good idea to lie through your teeth. Okay? Wrong time, 2025 before you get the lie out, the internet is gonna clock it, right? They're gonna go back and be like, you lied. And when you do something like that, the blowback is gonna be on you.

2 (12m 37s):
They're gonna go, actually this now impacts your credibility. You said that Candace went out and said something about Erica. By the way, you hear the people in the background going, woo, I'm gonna tell you what's happening there too. And you're gonna see how this thing really works. Point number one that I wanna make about how, why, or what Ben is doing right here is just the stunning hypocrisy of it. Okay? The rules for the, and not for me. I am getting old, my memory's getting a little fuzzy, but I distinctly remember the week that I was gloriously fired from the Daily Wire. And during that week, the CEO of the Daily Wire, at the time it was Jeremy Boring, jumped onto an X space hosted by Lauren Chen and had a conversation with Nick Fuentes, where he sang Nick Fuentes praises and also invited him onto the Daily Wire.

2 (13m 28s):
Okay, here's a headline because the Huffington Post remembers two daily wire. CEO tells white supremacist Nick Fuentes, that he's talented and he's very funny. The article goes on during a live streamed conversation with white supremacist Nick Fuentes. Last week, the CEO of a Daily Wire, a major right wing media outlet praised the prominent fascist influencer and offered only mild criticism about some of his political views. A stark difference from how he has spoken about Fuentes in the past. On March 25th, the daily Wire, CEO Jeremy Boring joined Fuentes on X for a live audio chat room. Boring told Fuentes that he listens to Fuentes show quite often, and that he thinks Fuentes is quote unquote very funny and one of the most talented political influencers, even if he is very concerned about some of what Fuentes says.

2 (14m 18s):
Later in the discussion, Bo said that he'd be thrilled to have Fuentes on one of the daily wires shows to debate the media company's popular pundits, some of whom have millions of viewers this happened. So I, I want you just to remember this because I feel like people are not appreciating how hypocritical it is that he's now trying to struggle session me, Kelly, because oh, he had Fuentes on the show when the Daily Wire position in 2024 was that their CEO could talk to Nick Fuentes publicly, praise Nick Fuentes publicly, and also invite Nick Fuentes onto the Daily Wire platform. We can actually, we should actually take a listen to a little bit of that conversation between Jeremy Boring then CEO of Daily Wire and Nick Fuentes take a listen.

7 (15m 8s):
People can say, well, I don't like what you say about this and that. I don't like that guys like Shapiro cannot, will not say Christ is King America first. I think they forfeit their ability to lead. I don't, I would never listen to somebody that can't say those things. 'cause I mean, those things are really the foundation of wisdom, which is love of God, which as you say, goes through the sun, as we all know, can only go through Jesus and Lia, which is, you know, your love of your home, your love of your homeland that you reside in, not some other homeland. So I just wanna get that across to you. It's kind of a strange circumstance that we're talking, but that's how I feel about,

8 (15m 44s):
And I'll say this, Nick, that I listen to your show quite often. I think you're one of the most talented people out there, and I'm very concerned about some of the things that you're saying. I wish I, I think that you're a very gifted communicator and so it's hard for me to imagine that you consistently miscommunicate some of these things. And I'll, I'll hope that I'm wrong and yield the floor back to all the people who actually came on here to talk to each other.

2 (16m 15s):
Anybody wanna help me out? Why it's now different? Hmm. What could be different now that it was okay when the Daily Wire was open to doing it and then Tucker did it and now it's suddenly not okay and it's the worst sin that could ever happen. To speak to Nick Fuentes. Point number two I'm gonna make here is the stunning hypocrisy again, okay. Of him picking the topic of Charlie Kirk to pretend that he's noble to, to pretend like he has to say something, even though he's lying in defense of what's happening to Charlie Kirk's widow when it is just a fact that Ben Shapiros a lot of things behind the scenes to stop the rise of Charlie Kirk. It's a fact. Okay, here's another text message.

2 (16m 57s):
I have literal hundreds of them pertaining to Ben sending his YAF boys, the Af boys, the National review peeps that were coming after us writing articles. The one that I showed in this little, our thumbnail here, we can show this conversation. Yeah, it was, it was a headline. Ben Shapiro's Jaff launches smear campaign against Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens. Hey Charlie, wherever you are, it's happening again. It's just like, just a me campaign. I don't know why, but this is what Ben does. And it is also interesting that when I was telling you that Ben called Charlie and he was lamenting the fact that Charlie and I had this friendship and warning him that he shouldn't have him.

2 (17m 38s):
Charlie felt like Ben was like throwing down like slave owner vibes and he was just like, he thinks I like own you or something, but I'm gonna show you the text messages. 'cause otherwise you'll say it didn't happen. Here we go. This was, again, everything we, Ben was going on people's shows and, and talking down about me and Charlie and he said, you're bigger than Ben. Now I'm walking into the White House. Yesterday I realized that, I said, I know he hates it. He said, we just have to treat him like noise. He wants you to punch down to him. His respect amongst movement fighters is quite low. I feel like that's relevant right now to what Ben's doing if he wants to egg on this fight because he's lost a certain bit of respect. And then Charlie goes on, you got in his head, which is terrific.

2 (18m 19s):
The Ben thing involves me more than he wants to admit. And then we went on, and this is the same conversation. He knows that John Snow, he's using a Game of Thrones reference, is stronger as the dragons fly higher. And he said it pisses him off and he's sending his incestuous brother to go try and kill us. It's worse. He views you as my slave. 100% control her, is what he really was saying to me when he called. So this has been, and and by the way, like I said, I have hundreds of these messages. And so you have to imagine being in my position when you see someone who did everything he could to kind of stop the rise of Charlie Kirk now trying to struggle session. Meghan, who was actually a very good friend to Charlie.

2 (19m 0s):
Charlie deeply respected her and towards the end, obviously she took a very principled position on telling the truth about what he was going through. And Charlie dies and suddenly he's like, I care about this evil that could be hap can is investigating who killed her friend. And, and she shouldn't be doing that. I mean, there's no way to spin it. What is his suggestion here that me asking questions about turning point USA somehow means that I'm blaming Erica who wasn't even working for Turning Point USA when Charlie died, because now she's the CEO. Of course he doesn't believe that. And it is just, so to me it is truly so gross to do this to a person that, you know, you tried to block and you just, now that he's dead, I guess you wanna sort of rewrite history.

2 (19m 42s):
That's what you're, you're trying to rewrite history and pretend that you're his ardent defender. Now, another point that I'd like to make is the stunning hypocrisy again and again when you stop and you consider that he's pressing Meghan and referring to this as an evil, the thing that I never said or did, but this is the same Ben Shapiro that worked roots, the destruction of Gaza on he supports and congratulated Randy fine, who has literally tweeted laughing at photos of dead Palestinian babies. But I guess Tucker Carlson speaking to Nick Fuentes is just so much worse than celebrating and after celebrating interviewing a man who is committing an actual genocide.

2 (20m 27s):
Okay? That's not up for debate, that's what they're trying him for. BB net and Yahoo was committing a genocide and Ben Shapiro sat down with him last month and do you guys think he pressed BB net and Yahoo on the point of a genocide? I don't understand how you could just go out there with your hair on your chest and your chest. You're just like, yeah, how dare you? How dare you not make a comment, Megan, about Tucker Carlson. How dare you not make a comment. I care now about Charlie Kirk, now that he's dead. I ca I care about him and what's happening, Candace trying to find out who killed him. That's evil. You are lying. You, you lie when you have nothing left.

2 (21m 8s):
So the question is become question becomes, what is Ben actually doing here? Because it's certainly not principled. I think we can put that to bed. It's actually also risky behavior when it comes to Ben Shapiro. Like he doesn't usually come outta the gate like that. And I think a couple of things are driving this unforced error. One, I do believe that he is actually scared of Nick Fuentes. Okay? I think that fear comes from guilt. Nick's backstory, don't care what you think about him. You already know I don't like Nick, Nick Fuentes 'cause of how he treated me, but the backstory is compelling. I learned the backstory listening to Jeremy Boring, the former CEO of Daily Wire sit down with Nick. So I would, right after I'd been fired and I, I didn't know what Ben and Jeremy admitted that they, they did to him.

2 (21m 50s):
And so I think if you artificially push somebody out of the market, and Ben has never come out and denied anything that Nick Fuentes has said, also Jeremy barring didn't deny in a conversation with him. So we have to assume the story is true. And given what I know about what happens now, I think, and what Charlie was going through, I think we can all realize that Nick was an 18-year-old kid. Like he told Tucker, and now the whole world knows this story. He started asking questions about Israel and he got artificially pushed out of the market when he had his whole life ahead of him, okay? And now when they did this because they wanted to rid themselves of Nick Fuentes, who then became angry about it and definitively has said very offensive things on the internet, but also he was 18, 19 years old.

2 (22m 33s):
Now you see him on Tucker Carlson. You don't like Tucker Carlson. And I think it makes him uncomfortable. I think we're in Harry Potter, right? And Lord Bmore thought he killed the baby and the baby may be lit. I don't even know who the dark Lord is in this story, but I do know, I don't, I don't even know who he should not, must not be named is in this story. But I do know that with Ben and Nick Fuentes, it's kind of a neither can live while the other survives. And Nick Fuentes seems to have survived, okay? Without advertisers, without sponsors, without connections, what, with the entire media writing things about him being put on the ADL's list, he has proven to be quite resilient. And it is in large part due to how hard they fight him, that people become curious.

2 (23m 17s):
It's like what you're, we're watching kids be bombed. Like how many people have lost their lives in Gaza? And you're telling me the greatest evil is, is Nick Fuentes. I, I'm sorry, I think I can survive Nick Fuentes insulting me. I don't feel the need to wheel and deal behind the scenes or, you know, tell Tucker not to host. I just don't care. It's just really not my business. I'm like, Meghan, I just don't care. Like, okay, if somebody wants to be a fan, they can be a fan of Nick Fuentes. And I, I sense an insecurity here in the fact that 10 years on from when Ben had this thing that happened to Nick Fuentes that he tells a story about, now Nick Fuentes is still here and, and Ben's influence is waning. It just factually is okay. Another thing that's happening here, and this is on the point of Meg Kelly and, and going back to the woo, making it sound like Ben's got a popular position about me, I sense that the pro-Israel lobby is on the brink of collapse.

2 (24m 9s):
They are desperate for allies, right? And they're so desperate for allies that they're forcing them away. That's what they're doing to Meg and Kelly, right? They're showing the world right now that they are willing to lie to get what they want. Ben is lying right now to get what he wants. And for whatever reason, the pro your lobby believes that this repeat failed strategy of lying and threatening people is going to work. Now you might be asking, well how is Meg Kelly being threatened here? This is exactly what Ben just did on stage. That is exactly the moral black male that Charlie was speaking about in the last days of his life. Okay? Ben is morally blackmailing Meghan, right? He's sitting across from her, the threat is her reputation.

2 (24m 49s):
He's standing there and he's saying, Candace is attacking a grieving widow and accusing her of murdering Charlie Kirk, will you disavow this evil on the spot? And he is got these fake people going, woo. Yeah. And you, you can see Megan's uncomfortable. 'cause she's like, well, did she say that man? Like maybe that is evil. Like that's, does that happen? He doubles down. He's like, yes. She said, Seth Dylan murder Charlie Kirk. Do. Will you disavow this evil on the spots that is moral blackmail? Are you a better person than to accept Candace Owens, who was attacked a grieving widow and is saying to that grieving widow that you murdered your own husband? That is moral blackmail.

2 (25m 29s):
Now, speaking of on the spot, everything that you just saw happen here, and Megan Kelly, I hope you see this truly. You guys send this clip to her. It's, this is really important. It is pre-planned, it is not organic. The supporter is not organic, the questions are not organic. We can pull back another layer of this onion so you can understand how vicious politics is. 'cause it is vicious. You might remember, maybe you forgot, but I spoke at YWLS in 2024, right after I was fired from the Daily Wire. And a big thing happened, and we should never forget it, okay? While I was heading to speak at this event, we learned because there was an intern at the Daily Wire who had a conscience and she felt very uncomfortable with the secret mission that she was put on.

2 (26m 18s):
We learned that a covert mission was happening where they were sending an intern to ask me a question, okay? To get my answer on the question. And then what was gonna happen next is they were gonna pass around a clip, but they were gonna make it look like she was just a, a random student. Let me show you a clip because we found this out. I called it out on stage. Charlie intercepted, we found what her name was, and I called this girl out on stage, take a listen

9 (26m 45s):
Thing that I am going to say, strangely, this is such a crazy story. But as I was headed in here, I got a, a frantic call from somebody. They did, they called me and they said, Candace, something very weird is happening. A daily wire has sent somebody secretly to record you and an intern, a PR intern to secretly record you to catch you in a bad moment in a bad light. And I think that that intern's name no, to be fair, it is never the fault of a person when their employer is sending them to do something that isn't good. But I would really love it if Ariana stood up.

9 (27m 30s):
Yeah, okay, maybe that's a little too intimidating for you too. But apparently she got an email at 10:00 PM hopped on a plane, is pretending to be a student. And so I do just wanna say to Ben Shapiro Enough, come out into the lights. Really? Come on, let's do this debate. Stop sending interns to do your dirty work. I don't fight. I'm down for the debate. Charlie Kirk says, he will fly you out.

9 (28m 11s):
He will fly you out next week to Detroit and we can do the debates on his stage. Thank you. Turning point USA, let's take some questions.

2 (28m 22s):
Oh, you know, the turning point USA that I wasn't a part of? That's how it went down. And Charlie was like, yeah, that's crazy that this is happening. And he is like, call him out on stage and offer the debate and I will fly him out personally to come debate you on this. But this is how it works, okay? They send people, they make it look like it's organic, they'll send people to your events and they will have people applaud. That was orchestrated by Alyssa Cordova. Now that she's not epi Daily Wire, I can say that, who I was calling out yesterday. But it's so important for people to get this what is happening at Megan's events. I will guarantee you people coming and asking her questions and trying to get her to disavow Tucker Carlson that is not organic, okay? That is pro-Israel people that are paid to do it. Honestly, Megan, if you're watching you give me the list of your attendees.

2 (29m 3s):
I'm assuming this is a ticketed event. I will find the people from, they'll be from yf, they'll be from some organization. I, if you let me go of the names. I love an investigation. I will tell you how many people were sent there to go woo And, and r applaud actually trying to intimidate you and to force you to take a position and to make you feel uncomfortable because it's a part of that moral black male pile up. And so I'm actually genuinely not upset. I don't care. I, I believe in the free markets. I genuinely will say, again, I will always debate Ben Shapiro, if, you know, if, if Tucker left you on red and you wanna come on this show and you wanna debate Israel and you wanna discuss Erica Kirk and the things I never said. If you wanna discuss your relationship with Charlie Kirk, anything that I have said that you would like to dispute, my platform is your platform.

2 (29m 50s):
I'd say you should come on my platform. 'cause my show's bigger now, but we could also do yours. So hit me up. We'll be right back after a brief break.

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2 (32m 32s):
I'm serious, you guys. Megan Kelly, make sure you let her know in her comments, blow her up because I have seen it before. I know exactly what's happening and they're going to be at be at every single tour. Stop trying to struggle session her into making a comment. It's just, it's weird. I don't know why they keep demanding that she disavows Tucker and Candace. I don't work with Megan Kelly, but I know how this goes. It's the, it's the exact same process by which the pro-Israel lobby lost Charlie Kirk. Because eventually you just get tired of being bullied and you start to sense and see that it's not organic and also it's not coming from your quote unquote friends. I just would never do this. I, it, it wouldn't even flash in my mind as an idea that I should text Tucker Carlson and tell him who he should or should not have on his platform or how he should use his platform.

2 (33m 19s):
It doesn't, it's just not how normal people behave and they don't understand how abnormal it is. Anyways, switching gears here. I gotta show you a couple of clips that are going viral right now. And CNN has cut these clips because they think they're embarrassing to me. So there's this young woman, she's the same age as me, Elle Reeve is her name. And I'm gonna be also be clear, I got very testy in this interview because it was a couple of days after Charlie was killed. First interview I was giving just worked out. But it was CNN. It wasn't about Charlie Kirk, but we were, we had set this up before and I decided to keep the appointment. You know, I hadn't been sleeping, I hadn't been eating. And this woman, I guess decided that she just wanted to poke a bear.

2 (34m 2s):
Anyways, she's the one passing around this clip because she thinks it totally embarrasses me and shows that I'm a white nationalist. Take a listen.

11 (34m 13s):
You can criticize Netanyahu without being anti-Israel and you can criticize Israel without being antisemitic. But some of the themes, talking points, concepts you've used in your criticism of Israel, I'm very familiar with, from covering white nationalists for 10 years. It's very unsettling for me to hear things like you saying our government is occupied by Zionists. Trump is occupied by Zionists. We're an occupied, occupied nation. Because like, there's literally a term that's like an eighties, nineties term from white nationalism, zag, Zionist occupied government. It's their idea that Jews control the world.

11 (34m 55s):
And I'm wondering like, are you intentionally referencing those kind of themes?

2 (35m 1s):
Wait, just to slow this down, are you accusing me of white nationalist rhetoric? 'cause I do have to have a little bit of a giggle about that first. Well that's,

11 (35m 7s):
I mean, to me, I'm also like, they be no fan of yours.

2 (35m 11s):
It's just, it's silly. But this is one of the things where I feel like it's such a lesson for CNN. This is why nobody watches it anymore. I mean, it's like you're sitting across from a black person, you're like, I've learned about White Dash and you're using White Dash. It's not that like

11 (35m 22s):
I know its, I've been to their valley, I've read all their text, I

2 (35m 24s):
Get it. I know, I'm so glad you're educated. Listen, but this is when it's like, put it in a book and anybody will say it. It's like, it's just at a certain point you have to use your eyes and go, is Candace Owens promoting white nationalist rhetoric? Okay. Immediately. No. So what else could it be? Could it be that actually Zionism is, is what what it actually represents. And what does that mean? Like Literalism is occupied. It's a political philosophy. Okay. Zionist occupied government, when, if you look into the history, yes, I believe we are a Zionist occupied government and we're not the only one. Okay? Yes. And I take it to the bank. If you need to walk out of here and say Canone is a white nationalist for you to be able, I don't to digest it, then that's fine. You know, you have to with that in your own time. But what I will say is by maybe this stuff is ambient and that's where you picked up.

2 (36m 5s):
I stand by every statement that I made and I, and I wanna double down on it. Okay? America is occupied by Zionist. I'd like to triple down on that. If there's anybody going, I'd like to triple down on that. These tactics are super boring and tired. And this is why it hinges upon suppressing speech, right? Constantly having to refer to somebody as evil or a white supremacist or anti-Semitic because you've lost the argument on the ba like there, there is no merit to your argument anymore. So it's all a constant struggle session of semantics. And then she moves on to they, do you remember growing up when we were just allowed to use the word they in sentences and nobody said, what do you mean by that?

2 (36m 50s):
Several times she just, what do you mean by they as if she didn't understand how to construct a basic sentence and to refer back to the noun. She has had no idea which plural noun I was referring to anyways. I was not really in the mood. And here is our conversation about they, they is a word. So like, I don't need to always like say they like, it's just, it's just a weird, it's like this is one of these psychology tactics where you're like, who is they? Who is they? And it's like, because

11 (37m 21s):
It sounds like you're saying Jews

2 (37m 24s):
Does the word they mean Jews.

11 (37m 26s):
When you're talking about Jews.

2 (37m 28s):
Yes. But if I'm not talking about Jews, then it does, they doesn't mean Jews when I say they want us to believe this or they want us to believe that. And you hear Jews, that's your own derangement, right? If I wanna say something about Jews, I'll say it. If I wanna say something about Israel, I will say it. If I want us, just like when I wanna say something about black people, I'll say it when I was saying during BLM, they want us to believe, nobody said, do you mean Jews? And so again, it's one of these trash tactics to make people fearful to speak. If I wanna say Jews, I will say Jews. I don't fear saying Jews. When I say Zionists run the media. I mean, Zionists run the media. People that support the political ideology of Israel run the media.

2 (38m 12s):
Any other things that I can help clarify?

11 (38m 15s):
But are you familiar with this? Like very longstanding trope?

2 (38m 18s):
Give us two shit about a trope. I really try not to curse, but I just felt like we needed to kill it real quick. You know what I mean? Just get her to move on from it because I, I really don't care. I'm, I'm so tired of these words. I'm just, I'm tired, I'm exhausted. Are you exhausted? We are tired. Collectively we're tired. I had to shut it down because I suddenly realized I was homeschooling my toddlers. And I told her, as soon goes on, I was like, look, I have toddlers at home. I can't teach you, you know, basic sentence. I'm teaching my toddlers how to read and here I am. I'm teaching her how to understand they in a sentence, that's a place. What are we doing? How old is this person? And she says, she's the same age as me and I'm going, you missed first grade.

2 (38m 60s):
You don't know what they means and now you're just gonna, it's a trope. This is the way to respond, okay? Just shut it down immediately. Embrace whatever you're going to be called. And, and her in this circumstance, if I gotta be called a white supremacist to say my opinion about this administration and how it's been occupied by Zionists and the cruelties that the Palestinian children are suffering at the hands be net inya, then so be it. I don't encourage you guys to cuss. It's a rare moment. Like I said, it was a couple days after C Charlie Kirk died and I just was not in the mood. But I do encourage you guys to defend yourselves in a similar manner.

2 (39m 40s):
Now, in that same vein, if in case you guys missed this going around, Eric and Laura Trump spoke at a recent T-P-U-S-A event at Auburn University. And it's a different era, okay? The post Charlie Kirk era at turning point USA, my guess after watching this is people are going to be less inclined to want to attend these events. And I'm speaking about the guests like Eric and Laura Trump because they are getting pressed now by students about Israel. Take a listen.

12 (40m 11s):
I'd like to ask about your father's relationship with Israel. He's taken over $230 million from pro-Israel groups during the summer against Iran. Even though he advised against it, Israel still attacked Iran and the US still bombed on behalf of Israel. Your father's frustrations with a Netanyahu have been made cl clear when he cursed on national TV over the situation. Israel has not been a great ally to the US all the way since 1960 when they bombed the USS Liberty. Israel is a nation where Christians are constantly under attack in both Gaza and the West Bank.

12 (40m 55s):
We talk about America first and defending Christians, but how can we do this if we align ourselves with a nation that does not do that itself?

14 (41m 10s):
There's no question my fa my father's had frustration. In fact, I think he says frustration throughout the whole conflict with, with both sides at the same time. Make no mistake, you have a nation that is chanting death to America every single day on the state streets of Tehran. You have a nation that will develop a nuclear weapon and you have a nation that will use that nuclear weapon against the western way of life. There's no question about it.

12 (41m 32s):
In response to the nukes from Iran, Israel has nuclear weapons and is not a part of the IEA unlike Iran. And it's just sad to see because I've never seen the American president get treated the way he does by the Israeli government.

15 (41m 52s):
Here's what I'll add. Do we or do we not have phase one of a peace agreement in the Middle East right now? Nothing is ever gonna be perfect, but I'll tell you what, this president works with what he has. He believes in peace through strength. And whether we're talking about in the Middle East, whether we're talking about a 40 year war like Armenia and Azerbaijan, as Eric just pointed out, a five day war in Thailand and Cambodia. This is a president of peace.

2 (42m 26s):
I don't know. It's just, it's lost its edge, right? Like maga over it just feel, you just know it's over. It's just over. And I say this by the way, and I'm always very honest with you about how people are behind the scenes. Eric and Laura have always been unbelievably kind to me. I have nothing bad to say about them as human beings. Laura works very hard and Eric by the way, works very hard, you know, running the Trump organization, certainly while, while his father has to go and be president and he took over. But they know they're not telling the truth, right? They know they're not telling the truth. The, the kids are now awake. They know about Jared and his deals with Ivanka and the Middle East and how much money they're set to make. And, you know, Gaza being destroyed is actually beneficial to their bank accounts.

2 (43m 9s):
It just is. And to think these kids and the fact that he was ready to answer about the nuclear, that's always the threat of the nuclear. And that used to work like generation nine 11 that worked, doesn't work anymore. 'cause we realize there's only one nation that isn't following any rules. There's only one nation that isn't respecting America. There's only one nation that generations of American children, American men are being told they have to die for in, in foreign lands. So at at the benefit of what nation, not America. If America throughout all these wars was not in a steep decline and actually we walked around and our streets were clean and we didn't have any homelessness and people were not on drugs, we probably would go, okay, like we're up to no good in the Middle East.

2 (43m 56s):
But at least look at this country, it's shining. It's amazing. What's our upside? Our upside is we get to get lectured and told that we're not even allowed to bring up Israel on college campuses. Or risk being like arrested, getting stricter on antisemitism laws. Now you're coming in for our speech and you thought that this generation was gonna get behind it because what Bibe bought TikTok, the hypocrisy is astounding and you can't survive hypocrisy. So unfortunately, I think four years ago everyone thought who's gonna be the next Trump family member that's gonna get into politics and galvanize the youth movement. It's done dead on arrival now. And it's because you guys went for broke on Israel.

2 (44m 37s):
So you know, whatever the real estate plan is in Gaza, that's, you know, that's gonna be, that's going to be the Trump legacy I suppose. And to be honest, that wouldn't be the legacy that I'd want to have because people are not gonna forget what happened there. Your children's children are probably going to feel ashamed to be honest with you, that you were involved in it and that you defended it or that you stayed quiet about it because of money. People are paying you to do those things. Anyways, you guys, I think that's enough. We're gonna take a quick little break before I answer some of your questions.

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2 (47m 30s):
All right, jumping into some of your comments here. RN Explorer writes, why can't Tucker interview Fuentes? Ben is upset with Tucker for this. I have seen this kind. I have seen this kind of immaturity in high school between teenage girls. I'm mad at her because she's talking to the girl that I don't like. Ben, please stop. I agree. There is something fundamentally high school about it. It's so weird. And I, I think they truly thought this was it. Like I know it's every week they renew their efforts to cancel Tucker. But I think they thought they had him like this was really gonna be it. And of course it always backfires 'cause people go, how immature, why can't Nick Fuentes tell a story? I just, I don't understand it. I'm not offended by anybody sitting down with Nick Fuentes and I, I think everybody should be in the free markets if Nick Fuentes loses in the free markets.

2 (48m 15s):
I want it to be because there was better competition. Not because he's just been artificially pushed out. That's, that's the only way that that works. Otherwise, it just, it's immature. Just is immature. And it's whiny too. Katie Arabian writes, missing Charlie Extra today. We all deserve the truth, no matter how awful it is. Please never stop fighting for our brother in Christ. You are in our prayers. May God bless and protect you. Candace, I'm, I don't, I don't care at all about Ben trying to join people. I, it's almost like they're trying to peer pressure me. Like there's like this threat. Like they want me to say something bad about Erica because they want me to stop investigating it. Which is making me feel weird that it's always the pro-Israel lobby that's doing this. People that weren't friends with Charlie okay are trying to struggle session us into no longer investigating what happened here.

2 (49m 1s):
In order for us to, in order for us to get a clean bill of health, of not attacking a widow, it's like, oh, if you investigate then you're attacking Erica. It's a nonsense. It makes me think that there's something there, right? Like what are they so afraid of? Why is the pro-Israel lobby in particular so afraid of any incursion into the absurd storyline that the feds are trying to sell us about Charlie Kirk, right? It's, it reeks of desperation. And desperation only exists when there's something to hide. And Israel has not been acting right from the beginning of this. We know that. We know Israel has not been acting right. We didn't do it immediately. It wasn't us.

2 (49m 41s):
Oh, that's kind of weird. That's kind of weird that you're just jumping up and saying that it wasn't you. Amber Lee fr writes, let's not forget that he would be the one to pick up his bloodstain microphone. That is right. Ben did say that right after Charlie died. And even that, it was just for me, knowing what, what was between them, it was just a lot for me to process. I was going through so many emotions that week. I was so angry. He was initial in the reaction to Charlie's death. It is obvious that he has an agenda. Look, everyone in politics has an agenda of some description. I'm not clear on what bends is, but I sense a tremendous insecurity. 'cause it is not a good step to lie like that.

2 (50m 22s):
Okay? And he knew I didn't say it. There's not, there's not a chance that he thought that. I said Seth Dylan murdered Charlie Kirk or Erica Kirk murdered Charlie Kirk. So he's showing his fear. And also I, like I said, I think he wanted to bully, effectively bully Megan Kelly into a position and she's trying to come up for air and she's like, wow, people are cheering this on. Maybe Candace really did say this. Maybe she did accuse Erica that would be horrible and good for her for not taking the bait and changing the subject instead, because she wasn't certain that I had said it. Melissa writes Candace as a black woman, you handled that interview perfectly. If anybody was embarrassing, it was her who by the way, appeared to be on drugs. Something was off. It was given, you know, wine drunk mom can do you guys did you used to watch Hey Arnold, like Helga Pataki's mom.

2 (51m 8s):
Yeah. For those of you who, it's a very specific reference, but if you got it, you got it. It was giving Helga Pataki's mom, by the way, we, we watched such serious cartoons when we were growing up. Tom Simpson writes, are we sure Fent Fuente Fuentes being pushed isn't as an op to smear the anti-Israel dissident right by association. I don't think he's on it, but persona non grata for years and then on like five major pods in the same month. Look, I, when I invited him on my podcast, genuinely, I just wanted to have a conversation so I can tell you 'cause I'm not an op, but the sense that I got with how he reacts and lied about how we treated him is the first thing that made me think he wasn't upop. 'cause I was like that's so weird. We were so nice to you. We spoke about, we spoke to you behind the scenes, we planned the interview, what we were gonna name the interview and he was very theatrical.

2 (51m 52s):
So I don't trust it. I've been very clear. I don't trust the Fuentes thing, but other people can, that's on them, you know, Explorer 2 5, 3 whites. Ben sounds like an immature teenage girl, upset that she can't control her friends or the people around her. How embarrassing. Yeah, and I just don't think it's gonna work. I think Megan Kelly is going to hold the line because she did right there under pressure. I just want her to know that it is not organic. That is so important. So if, for those of you that are watching both of our shows, just make sure you tell her that Zammit writes Truth is harmonic. Lies are shrill. That's exactly correct. Plant babies and more writes your amazing Candace who owned that interview.

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Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Amber Lee Raz writes they made is a giant error in stopping Charlie Kirk, oh they made a giant error. I think you had Cy here. They made a giant error in stopping Charlie Kirk. Now the people are, Charlie, bless you Candace, for continuing the fight. Who is they? Who is they? Amber, when you say they did you know, did you know about that manual that was published in 1897? When you say they, it's a long running antisemitic word that were they. So please be very clear if you plan on using it this weekend, if anybody out there is gonna say they please be very clear on what you mean when you say the they. Okay.

2 (53m 12s):
Because her feelings are really, she studied it and she knows, she knows people. That's kind of the whole vibe she was giving was like mom drunk. Okay. Lastly, Jonathan writes compared the Islamic Rules of Engagement with the Geneva Convention. Also Ben says Republicans should work together against Momani. Yet the DW was all about sa but sabotaging all the other conservative media. Like I said, in general, everything he was saying there felt to me to be very hypocritical. And I hope that I have done a very good job demonstrating just how hypocritical it is and how they pivot their perspectives. You gotta support, you know, p Netanyahu, who's murderous, but oh my gosh, I can't believe you could, you would speak to Nick Fuentes.

2 (53m 58s):
We can speak to Nick Fuentes, but you can't speak to Nick Fuentes unless we say you can speak to Nfu and none of it makes any sense. And genuinely it's just because their pro-Israel lobby is on its way out. People don't like him anymore because of these tactics, because they're not sincere in there in wanting to debate. And then even when they do debate, they then do what they did to Charlie Kirk and afterwards gets so angry that they lost the debate, that they try to squeeze him and tell him he can never host this person ever again because they lost. It's the behind the scenes actions that they take and how they treat people. And I mean that what a terrible guest for Megan. Like, she's inviting you on her platform and you know, you've planned this session, you know, you planned to press her and you know, you probably planned to have people pass around that clip to try to embarrass her.

2 (54m 40s):
That's, that's not gonna bode well in the future if you're, if you're really looking forward to having her as an ally long term. That's my advice. Free to take it. Also free to come onto my platform, the number one podcast in the world right now, Benny. So what's up? You wanna come? You can come, we can have a conversation. You know, I, I always believe in more conversation and genuinely I'm not angry 'cause how could I be angry? Success really is the best revenge. We'll see you guys on Monday.

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Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention please? Because today is obviously a day of celebration. Yes. In case you missed it, we officially have become the number one podcast in the world. Not in America. Okay, not in Europe. I am talking about in the world and the haters stay mad. Haters stay big. Mad on the internet on X Today it is just crazy town. I mean, Christian Zionist influencers are doing that thing where they attack me for telling the truth about something. It's so strange. I don't even know how to react to it. I'm gonna do my best here. They're all weighing in and they're commenting and they're saying untrue about something that is literally true.

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It's literally true. I lived it. It's such a strange thing. It's like they're trying to wipe my own memory and wipe my own emails that I have. Of course, we are at first, before we get to them, going to cover the top moments, top viral moments from the heavily anticipated interview with Erica Kirk on Fox News with Jesse Waters. So let's get started. Okay, first things first. Welcome to the number one podcast in the world. It's here you are. Here we are all number one in the world.

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It's been trending on Twitter. It's been so exciting. Look at this. I will never forget this moment. Candace Owens's podcast hits number one worldwide best part without promotion, which means we have not spent since we started this podcast a year and a half ago, a single dollar on advertising. Okay? Because we couldn't do it. We were a startup. I was fired, things were down. It was real bad. And yet we are the number one podcast in the world. Grok summarizes it this way, I'm gonna read it. Conservative commentator, Candace Owens announced on Thursday that her independent podcast Candace has reached the top global ranking according to pod scribe data. Following her 2024 departure from the Daily Wire, she credits the organic growth to criticism legal challenges, including a defamation lawsuit from French President Emmanuel Macron and First Lady Jit Macron and her small team's resilience.

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Owens attributes, the milestone to divine intervention amid ongoing media attacks. Fact checked. It's just true. All of it's very true. I'm so excited. I would like to thank everyone but the academy because the matrix hates me. I will never win any more accolades, probably never be invited to a red carpet event, but that's okay because I've never been happier and there are so many people to thank It is true. We must thank Brigitte and Emmanuel Macron for that Ill-advised lawsuit. Obviously I feel like that ripped a hole in reality and made things even more global than they already were.

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I'd like to thank Kanye West, formerly Kanye West. He is now yay for the song Power because the song power really made me recognize that you have to stop listening to your haters. You also should recognize that you need the haters to inspire you to keep going. When somebody tells you you can't be something or you must be something, you have to stand up for yourself. You have to have the courage to say, I know the crowd is doing this, but I'm not doing it. And that was me when I no longer wanted to do the pro-Israel thing. Of course, as always, I thank Ben Shapiro, I thank Jeremy Boring, I thank the direction of travel and they realizing it before I did that I should be fired.

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Thank you for firing me. But, and and thank you for the publicity of the firing, Andrew Clavin Christ is King. Thank you so much. You are here in my book Tucker Carlson. I don't know, I feel like I should thank you because a lot happened because people thought that we were plotting behind the scenes and we never were. And thank you Tucker Carlson for the weeks that I get off when the media is attacking you. Instead of me now, it's kind of together. It's Tucker Carlson and Camera Owens. But thank you. I wanna thank Australia. We see you Australia, Tony Burke. Thank you for banning us from an entire country. Even though I didn't do nothing, I literally didn't do nothing, but I'm banned. And guess what? You gotta hear me anyways. Ha ha ha.

1 (4m 51s):
Tony Burke. Okay. But in reality also obviously thanking this incredible team, very small. It has stayed small. There's just four of us that work on the actual podcast every day. Savannah wearing a ton of hats. Chris in editing Mark Mansplaining and also being our director, Skylar, the producer who has to deal with my insane text messages all through the night because I'm, my brain is running a million different ways. It's just a really tiny little engine that keeps going. And so that's why we are actually resilient. We do need to hire more people. And you guys still are not getting a window in there. I just wanna be clear. I don't want them to get too excited. They will never be any breathing room in the control room. And yeah, obviously it's been a tremendous year and mostly thankful to my husband for figuring out how to operate an entire podcast business.

1 (5m 37s):
I don't know how he does it. I don't know how he deals with things. I, he doesn't have time to even watch the show and he's just constantly putting out fires. Could not have done this with out all of you guys for letting me know that it's okay to just be honest. And it was definitely a trying year, realizing that, especially now the conservatism thing. What is conservatism? The Republican Party is going through a moment. I don't wanna be tied down to the Republican party and I wanna be able to say something against Democrats and Republicans and we're doing that. We're speaking truth. We're gonna continue to speak truth. And we're very excited today. And one of the things that we are speaking truth about right now, and which my haters are like, it's 'cause you're talking about Charlie Kirk.

1 (6m 18s):
You know, you guys change this every month. First it was, oh, it's because of the Jit Macron thing. Oh, it's because of the Kamala Chronicles. Oh, it's because of the Blake Lively lawsuit. The common denominator here is me looking for truth. And I think people are catching onto the fact that I'm sincerely looking for truth and I don't care what enemies I make along the way. And obviously I'm making a lot of enemies right now for some reason looking into the Charlie Kirk assassination and the lies that we are being told. Anyways, let's get into Erica Kirk. Obviously it was a very anticipated interview. I look, I think we didn't really know what we were gonna get. I don't know why I thought it was gonna be like more about the investigation and obviously in retrospect, that's not what it was about because it's Fox News and Fox News is not gonna do this like heavy investigation.

1 (7m 7s):
It was kind of more giving her a platform to speak about how things have changed for her, how things have changed for turning Point USA, what it's like being at the helm of the organization. What are her thoughts about what that organization is going to look like going forward. And he, I'm speaking about Jesse Waters who hosted this discussion, also trailed her at the event that she did with JD Vance at the University of Mississippi. Now people around the world obviously have been moved by Erica's commitment to her Christian faith. The strength obviously that it takes for her to look after her kids to look after herself, plus to steward this massive company all while she's grieving.

1 (7m 49s):
Right? And that's kind of one of the things that stood out the most to a lot of people. But I would say the Christian message is what has resonated the most when she got up on stage and she said that, I forgive him pretty, pretty instantly. I mean I don't, the when was the memorial event was only what, 10, 11 days after he was assassinated. I think it was even less. Maybe it was it like the 19th, nine days after he was assassinated. Oh sorry. The 21st Mansplained in my ear. Thank you Mark. So Jesse asked her about the harder moments that she has encountered becoming a widow. And she shared that nighttime is the hardest. She also shared her experience with the emotions of being a widow compared to the emotions that other widows may experience when grappling with sudden loss.

1 (8m 39s):
And here's what she had to say. Take a listen.

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It's so easy to be in a position of feeling regret when you lose someone you love. And I tried to read a book by CS Lewis because he lost the love of his life. He was only married to her for four years. I think it's called a grief absurd. It was a very hard book to read. Not because it was about grief, but because in the opening pages he talked about how angry he was with God. And I've never felt that I'm not angry with God.

3 (9m 23s):
Never have been, never have I questioned why, Lord, are you putting me through this? Why are you testing me? Why are you, because God is so good and he's so sovereign and I know he uses everything, everything, even what the enemy meant for evil. And I have no regrets.

1 (9m 51s):
So when I saw this moment, I was just thinking about myself and my, a lot of emotions and grieving that I have experienced and all the emotions that I've shared with you guys and the anger that I have felt. And I wanna be very clear that I am not that example that she is giving. I, I could have never, and I know that so many people agree with this, I could have never forgiven Tyler Robinson for whatever part he played in this. And obviously I'm saying whatever part he played in this, because I don't believe that he was the lone person involved. I don't even think his person that killed Charlie Kirk. But even if you believe all of those things, I never could have turned around and forgiving him that quickly.

1 (10m 31s):
Right? And I have not even processed, I, I definitely, when I prayed about this, asked a ton of questions to God. And yeah, I, she's absolutely right in what she's saying and she is delivering to us what the biblical teaching is on these matters. But I could not not feel that way. And so I was questioning myself listening. I was like, what is wrong with me? Like, well actually, what is wrong with me? Why am I not able to get to forgiveness? Why am I not able to? Or why am I rather questioning and asking why and why doing this to somebody so young? I mean, even my dad, by the way, was so impacted.

1 (11m 12s):
He met Charlie a couple of times, but he was so impacted by Charlie's assassination that it made him go, I want to be, I remember my dad said this, like I wanna be better a grandfather and a better father. 'cause I look at myself and I'm older and I haven't lived a life anywhere near as admirable as Charlie has lived his life. This is, my dad literally said this to me on the phone. And it makes me feel like, why him? Why did this happen to Charlie Kirk? And I just, yeah, I don't know. That's kind of what I was thinking. I was going, wow, what is wrong with me? That I have felt all of those things that she is has had the wisdom to just not go through that. You know what I mean? Or not. Or not, I guess I shouldn't say not go through that, but not fixate on that.

1 (11m 55s):
I couldn't today after everything that's happened, be like, I forgive Tyler Robbins. I can't do it. I just can't do it. And I think maybe if I'm assessing myself and being hypercritical of myself right now, it's because I cannot forgive until I know what happened. I don't know what I'm forgiving actually until I know what happened. And this might move into what we're gonna get into later where she answers the question, we're gonna get to it right now actually, of whether or not she believes that they have caught the true killer of Charlie Kirk, right? Do you believe that the person that we have in custody is that the person that pulled the trigger? Is that the only person that pulled the trigger? Anyways, I want you to hear it directly from her and not me recapping what she said or reiterating it rather it's gone viral because of what she didn't say.

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To be honest with you. Take a listen.

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Do you think they've caught your husband's killer?

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So something I'm so grateful for is that we have one of the most incredible teams for this case. I would never wish it upon anybody to have to go through what we are going through to have seen the autopsy report, to have seen the different evidence portions that have been collected. I trust our team

1 (13m 28s):
So it's not a straight yes or no. And the implication could be that she trusts the team to find more or to get answers or if this is not it, to tell her what the true answers are. And I think that's why this is going viral. 'cause they're going, okay, does she actually believe that Tyler Robinson acted alone? And obviously Jesse is not gonna push her on that because it would've probably felt more like an interrogation rather than just sitting down and speaking through some of these topics that are probably hard to talk about in general. But I am hopeful that what she's implying is that she trusts her team to do the due diligence. She says that she has seen the autopsy report, she has seen certain things.

1 (14m 9s):
Obviously we have, none of us have seen the autopsy report and I, I I, I don't know, I didn't know what to to make of that. Is she saying she that there's more that's gonna come out? Is that kind of a foreshadowing that more is going to come out and things are going to be clear? I hope so. I really do because in terms of what the public has seen so far, I would say nothing has been convincing. And I'm trying to imagine what they would have that the public hasn't seen that could be sort of a smoking gun. And in theory it would be the footage, right? Tyler Boyer said, we have footage in 4K. All of the stuff when he was tweeting, and similarly, not the university, but somebody else was, was saying that, you know, at every angle, every area of a university is covered.

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Their excuse for not showing the public was they didn't want it to in any way impact the case. That has never made sense to me. The excuse has never made sense to me. In fact, I would imagine that when there was a manhunt going on before you even thinking about the case, but rather thinking about keeping people safe, that would've been a good time to drop some clear footage of the individual. But it's possible. It's possible they have actual clear footage of Tyler Robinson jumping down onto the rooftop and firing the shot. That's all possible. And so we're just going to have to wait and see on that. Now I'm gonna say personally, and maybe even selfishly, probably selfishly, again, I'm fallen.

1 (15m 38s):
I'm very fallen, obviously I was extremely excited that she responded to the Catholic innuendo once and for all in her own way. Obviously it was not a direct question or anything, but two, two things happened here. One you probably didn't catch, which is behind Jesse and Erica as they're walking backstage at the University of Mississippi event that they had headlined, there was a priest look in the corner there. I know a priest collar when I see one. Yep. That is the same priest that she took with her to the hospital when Charlie was shot. And I don't know, I'm I, I am maintaining that.

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I think this may have been about more than the architecture and in case you are not there yet. In addition to that, the priest being caught behind the scenes there, they traveled with Erica and she discusses Charlie's affinity for Saint Michael take a listen.

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When we first started dating, I, I asked him, I was like, why don't you wear a cross? He's like, why don't you, you say you're a Christian, but you don't wear a cross. He's like, I, I don't know. I don't really, I'm not a jewelry guy. And I was like, I understand. So for his first birthday present, I got him this cross and then throughout the time I would always add different medals to it. And so he always, he loved St. Michael. And so yeah, every time he'd put this on, he just felt like it was his, it was his armor.

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Are we done here guys? He felt like St. Michael was his armor. Okay. Now I wanted to point that out because in retrospect it, I get more and more just amazed and upset at how vicious and cruel and unnecessary people are. Just all of the videos people made when I wasn't even mentioning it as a big deal, I was doing a tribute video to Charlie and being like, we were all hoping that he was gonna take the step and become Catholic, gave no details. And the next thing I knew Operation Christian, Zionist influencer was while I was in a state of trauma and grieving coming after me and saying that it wasn't true. And I don't think any of them have made video since clarifying that. No Canice seems to have been telling the truth because who cares about the truth when you can just like dunk on Candace.

1 (17m 54s):
But I thought that was a very natural way to kind of respond to it. And you know, she's probably not gonna give us anymore because she doesn't have to give us anymore. Like I said from the beginning, he didn't convert to Catholicism, but it's just kind of okay for us to tell the truth about where he was at on his spiritual journey. I don't know why that's a big deal at all outside of just hating Catholics, which is what I am receiving a lot of that as. And there's just been so many lies that have been told, and we're gonna get into more of them later. And the frustration that I have with people who purport to care about Charlie, why they peal ridiculous tiny lies doesn't make sense to me Anyways. But keeping with Erica's interview, she was asked directly, and this is probably the most viral moment from the sit down about how she personally feels about the conspiracy theories that are circulating regarding his murder.

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And here is her answer.

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There's other theories swirling around about Charlie's assassination, right? How does that make you feel?

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When everything happened, my phone died, it became a black hole. I just didn't turn it on for weeks on it. I've intentionally insulated myself because I need to guard my heart and I need to be there for my kids and I need to be there for turning point. And what I've realized through all of this is that everyone grieves differently. Everyone is trying to figure out, and I don't blame them. How does this happen? How does somebody become so radicalized where they can justify this in their own head? We just lost one of the greatest voices of our generation.

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Why? How, what's behind it? Like everyone's trying to process this and I respect that, but where my heart is just asking for some grace is for the ones who were there that day, they have to relive that every single day. He didn't die in a car accident. He didn't die from cancer. He was assassinated. And the difference between this and previous assassinations in this country, there was no social media, there was no ai. I can't tell you how many fake images are out there of all of this.

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And, and again, my, my only request is that just please pray and consider and think about Whatever you put online because it's going to impact his kids in the future. I don't want my kids to go on the internet one day when they're older and see things that it's just, we're all trying to process this in our, in their own way. And I appreciate that. But just some grace would be nice.

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So I think it's a gracious answer and I think it's a gracious request to, you know, assert first and foremost that people are doing this because they care and they care about Charlie. And also this was a traumatic event that the entire world experienced. And also the reason why the internet is investigating is because the feds aren't, and not only are they not investigating, they're telling some pretty obvious lies, right? Number one being that he was shot by a 30 odd six and stopped the bullet when in a normal circumstance it would've decapitated him like a 30 odd six would would decapitate someone. And because they've been so ridiculous and then gaslighting us by being like, you're dishonoring Charlie's legacy, people are digging their feet in the ground because it's, it's just disrupts us sp spiritually to watch something like that and then be told like nothing to see here.

1 (21m 36s):
Now here's what I will say about her request to consider the people that were there that day, the people that were there that day experienced a trauma because they watched Charlie Kirk die, or maybe they didn't see him die, maybe watched him get shot, heard the shot, who knows what the exact specs are. This is where it's going to be really hard for Erica to be a CEO and to be somebody who is a widow at the same time, right? Because the messaging that is coming out of Turning Point USA, so this is Erica and her CEO in her chairman capacity has just been unacceptable, right? It can't be both, it can't be, okay, everybody, we're gonna keep going and you know, Mikey's gonna take over for Charlie at his Liberty Con or Liberty event that he has, which is is gonna be sold out and turning point USA people who are directors of faith, they're gonna be telling you like, Mikey's got what it takes, here's what, blah, blah, blah.

1 (22m 30s):
And then Mikey's gonna tell stories about that day, go on his show multiple times. Andrew's gonna talk about it, everyone's gonna talk about it and they don't wanna talk about the stuff that we care about. Like this is what it means to have a podcast, right? You can't want fame only on your command. This is, this is kind of the Meghan Markle thing, right? That we talk about and I'm, I'm quoing this to Mikey McCoy. It's like everybody wants to be famous until you're famous. Okay? It's, we want privacy now. Well, it doesn't actually work that way. You don't get to be like, I, I'm, I wanna marry you and I wanna be a princess and then get, become a princess. And you're like, well I don't wanna be a princess, right? It, it's kind of, hmm, you gotta pick one or the other. So if there were turning point individuals who were so traumatized that day and they needed to go away, I mean, I had to go away for two weeks to collect my thoughts about the trauma that I saw having watched it.

1 (23m 20s):
And a lot of people I know that had to take breaks, I had to take the show off the air for a couple of days and they just, you know, needed time to process. We, it'd be a little bit different actually it's almost came across like they needed zero time to process and they were kind of annoyed that the world needed time to process. And then the things that they were telling us were lies. We were able to factually debunk things that we were being told. And then you've got people like Tyler who's featured in this Tyler Boyer who I like, I'm you're the chairman and the CEOI, Tyler Boyer is a sexual deviance, right? Why do we have to like give, because he was at the hospital, give him grace.

1 (24m 0s):
It's like, no, this is the comp, this is now what's at the head of the company. Charlie's not there. We wanna make sure that this company is going to be committed to truth. We wanna make sure this company is not going to be telling us that we can't care about this or not be focused on that because we need to decide whether this is still the same company. That's what it means, right? Is this still the same company? And so I think with the McCoy thing, everyone wanted a stage until you got a stage, okay? And people started going lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, right? Case in point, Alex Clark wanted to do the Wall Street Journal thing until I caught like this little lie and it's like, what are you saying this thing about Catholics? That's not true.

1 (24m 40s):
Okay, take the stage or don't take the stage, but it can't be in between. And then suddenly when the public turns against you, I, I don't wanna stage anymore. That would be, that would be my response to that. And I don't, I I do not have any sympathy for Rob McCoy. I have no sympathy for Mikey McCoy. I have no sympathy for Tyler Boyer. I, yeah, I think telling the truth is a very easy thing to do when you have a microphone. And if you don't wanna tell the truth, it just makes you look more suspicious. And I can give you an example of that. There was some kid who was wearing green at this UVU event, right? They looked kind of shady.

1 (25m 20s):
There was a ton of rumors, we got a bunch of emails, but I never covered it on the show because I didn't think there was anything beyond the fact that he looked kind of shady in a green hoodie. And I think it was yesterday, Sam Parker was like, who are these guys? And I can't get a clear image of this person. I then respond to, I'm like, here's a clear image of this person. The actual person wearing the green hoodie then responds very quickly. He's like, that's me. Sorry I dress weird. I think he's on the soccer team at UVU and that's it. It's over and, and nobody is talking about the green hoodie. Here he is. Colby Sessions. Hey guys, this is me. My teammate and I were just on campus to get food and stop by the event. We always wear silly stuff like that.

1 (26m 0s):
Sorry guys. That's it. How easy, right? How easy. He's not like I'm a victim, call a lawyer. I can't believe somebody asked a question. I can't believe there's interest in this event where an assassination took place. No, people are asking because they're well-meaning and he just comes right back and answers it and it's over. That's how easy, that's how quick, that's how painless it is when you simply tell the truth. And I just don't feel that anything that's been easy to clarify has been done. And it can't be because they're in a state of mourning because they were like back on their feet the next day and giddy and sharing memories and talking about what happened on that day in detail.

1 (26m 42s):
So except for the parts that we wanna know about, I dunno, doesn't work for me. Anyways, the, if you guys wanna watch that interview in in its entirety, you definitely should. It is available on Fox News. Fox News primetime. Jesse Waters. And that's what we're gonna say about that. Take a brief break and we're gonna get into some Christian Zionist influencers.

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1 (29m 43s):
Alright, let's start with a little back forth that I had with Ally Beth Stuckey online. I'll start actually by saying some nice things about Ally Beth Stuckey because one of the things that I am working on is being a lot more measured when I am ticked off about something and I realize that this particular subject is just I, I just instantly wanna go claws out. And there's a lot of great things about Ally Stuckey. I have actually worked with Ali Stuckey at various events. I've spoken with Ally Stuckey, she's been on my podcast multiple times. She's been a panelist back when I was on The Daily Wire I'm referring to, she debated my husband before I was Catholic. They had a very good sit down and she's always been very kind. She behind the scenes.

1 (30m 22s):
I will always tell you guys if there's tea, there actually isn't any on Ally Stuckey. She's always been a very lovely person. And especially because when I was first coming into the industry and people were dunking on me for all sorts of things, she actually like hosted me on her show and had a conversation rather than just kind of joining the choir. So yeah, I am not addressing this because Allie is a bad human being. I, I'm addressing this because she has been addressing me actually su subtly subtweeting these sorts of things. And I feel like it's fair that when people engage in that sort of behavior that I get to respond somehow people are allowed to talk about me and then when I respond some people will suddenly be like, I stand with so-and-so.

1 (31m 6s):
I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm just answering someone for me this topic, Charlie Kirk who murdered him. There isn't a single topic in politics that is happening on this planet that I care more about. Okay? It is the killing of Charlie Kirk and nothing else for me. And in the aftermath of his assassination, people were downright nasty to me. You saw that it was definitively not organic. It was this weird need to assert his legacy as a Christian Zionist. By the way, I'm not including Allie in the downright nasty category whatsoever, but she was one of the voices who cast unnecessary shade, I would say at my account of him becoming Catholic. Curious.

1 (31m 47s):
And it was unnecessary, I would say only because she could have texted me. She has my number. This is one of the things that Matt Walsh recently said, that he views it as such a form of disloyalty when you have access to an individual. But you will instead go onto your platform to say something about that individual when you could ask for clarity, right? She could have messaged me and say, Hey, I've never heard anything about Charlie being interested in Catholicism. And I would've said to her, Hey privately, yeah, he was going to mass sometimes daily he was going on Sundays, he died with a pendant. But that didn't happen. Anyways, she's asserted that she's a friend of Charlie Kirk, she certainly has worked with Charlie Kirk for years. All that is true. We are natural allies because we are committed to wanting there to be justice and genuinely are both upset by Charlie being no longer here, not seeing where Charlie was supposed to go in his life, having his life cut short in the most traumatic terms possible.

1 (32m 43s):
But it feels to me that there are some people who only want to use their platforms to dispel something that I am saying that they think is untrue. Even when I present proof that it is true. And an example of that is this morning, so yesterday I said to you guys as a person who worked at Turning Point USA who toured with Charlie the most, okay? There's a single person who can say, I headlined more toward turning Point USA campus tours than Can Stone. Just, I know what I'm talking about, right? It's a very strange thing to not know what the inner workings are and to then accuse somebody who shows an email as I did yesterday, that these events are booked the semester before.

1 (33m 32s):
Okay, there's a long waiting list. Everybody wants Charlie or Candace, whoever it is, Don Jr. To come to their campus and they make those requests early. The Turning Point chapters, they have so many of them and so they are constantly running behind on those requests. And it's a very long process because the administrations at these campuses naturally hate turning Point USA in particular because Charlie started the organization to disrupt college campuses. So they give these kids a very hard time over everything. When I tell you a hard time when Charlie and I were speaking at Stanford, the girl who put, the student who put the event together, her grandfather owned one of the buildings at Stanford.

1 (34m 13s):
Like her name was on one of the buildings at Stanford University and they still gave her a hard time pulling this fence together, right? It doesn't matter, it's, it's more the sentiment of who you are as a political person and as a political organization. And they will, they will try to stop you. And I'm, and that is why it is strange as in it has never happened While I toured for what, eight, nine semesters. Eight, 2019 summer, eight semesters with Charlie like in a row. It's never happened that a college makes a request over the summer when school is closed. Closed because it was okay at the end of July. School was not in session.

1 (34m 53s):
And then it gets honored by turning point USA immediately and then it's on the calendar. Could you imagine the university getting that email? They already hate Charlie Kirk and they're gonna honor it and be like, not only do we do we wanna honor this, we'll give you the first week back to school. Like that's what they're telling us and it doesn't make any sense. And I pointed that out and I showed proof of that. What are you disagreeing with actually like when you jump into this, what is motivating your disagreement would be my question. I will read her tweets and then I will respond to them. So she does a total false debunking by sharing a private message exchange between her and Charlie. This is what she tweeted. She said, the latest claim is that T-P-U-S-A must have been in on Charlie's murder because the UVU campus stop was approved in July.

1 (35m 39s):
It was not approved in July, it was requested in July. And that's too short of a timeline for an event in September. That is not true. Charlie texted me at the end of August for a campus event in early November that's about two months out. And the reason he didn't specify which campus is because he didn't even know yet. He just knew it was going to be in Alabama. So yes, it does seem like part of this year's campus tour was being put together at the last minute and UVU being booked over the summer isn't actually unusual. No, hey, would love to have you join us on campus on November 3rd. What, what does this prove? It proves that Charlie invited her to join him on campus on November 3rd.

1 (36m 23s):
If he is giving you multiple locations, and I'm telling you this as someone who did, I worked for this organization, Ali, okay? It's probably because these are the, the organ, this is already approved. They're doing these campuses already. He's asking you which one to choose. Many times these students will be told to hold two dates, two dates that can possibly work and they're gonna get back to them and confirm and see who's available. They did not start planning that event when Charlie texted you, I can guarantee you that. Okay. They did not receive a request from those campuses on that day. It's an absurdity. I don't even know what we're debating. She then follows it up and she says this, since some of you guys are struggling because people pointed out that's not what Candace said.

1 (37m 7s):
It's a request that went from UVU chapter to turning point USA. She says that some of you guys are struggling, no venue yet two months out there's clearly a venue because Charlie is saying in this chat November 3rd at Mikey McCoy, actually November 3rd at 6:30 PM either Auburn, which has 5,000 seats or the University of Southern Alabama. Now I told you that Charlie and I would divide and conquer should there'd be multiple events going on at the same day. Charlie would headline one, I would headline the other, I will guarantee you and I checked they did both of these this semester because that's how it works. Okay? He's asking you which one you wanna join. They might both be holding the auditoriums that they need to, but this was not being planned when they messaged you, they didn't receive the request the day that they messaged you and say, Hey, do you wanna make this happen?

1 (37m 56s):
I don't know what we're, what we're doing here. I don't know what the nature of this is. Then you get Lila Rose who jumps in for no reason at all other than the faculty. She's a committed Christian Zionist and she says something that's so far from the mark, at least Ali's showing something relevant to turning point USA. Even though she maybe didn't watch what I said or she's confused about what the conversation was, it's well-meaning. Okay? Lila Rose just comes outta left field with like we're talking about apples and here's an orange. I speak regularly on college campuses as well. She starts with, this is not true, this is not true. What is not true? I showed the what is not true. I speak regularly at college campuses as well as one example.

1 (38m 37s):
I was just asked to speak at Stanford and they were going to set the event up within three weeks. It didn't happen, didn't materialize. They asked you to speak, what's the context? How many students? And then she goes on and she gives an example. When I debated a few weeks ago at Yale, the event was also planned within two months. Okay? So this is what happens when the chief debater, Charlie Kirk is murdered. We're left with this. The people who can't think through the apples and the oranges. Lila, I am sure that a tur if, if Taylor Swift tweets that it took her team a year to put together her tour. I'm not gonna respond and be like, this is not true. I toured Taylor Swift at campus events and we were able to pull the event together in six months.

1 (39m 24s):
Apple's oranges. So that Yale event that Lila Rose spoke at was with the Yale Political Union. So it is, has existed since 1934. It runs like a well-oiled machine. I've spoken at the Oxford Union. They speak in the same place at the same time. They change the people that are speaking. You sit down with them, you have a dinner. This is Oxford again, not Yale. I have not spoken at Yale. You have a dinner and you debate somebody, okay? It's, it's a debate union. It's what they do and what they've been doing since 1934. Lila had, and here's a picture of it. She's comparing this 70 people that attended this debate to turning point USA, hosting a debate with thousands of people.

1 (40m 3s):
Sometimes a vice president, sometimes a president like you. What are you debating? What are you actually like when you pause and you think through? What are you debating me on? If you are going to dispute me, simply show me the information of somebody making a request and having it instantly be honored at turning point USA, which runs like a machine. Absolutely. But these events are big, okay? Ambulances are required. The university has to tell you, okay, well if you've got 1500 people, then this is the state law. They have to confirm they're available. This is the insurance that has to be, but blah, blah, blah, blah. Not the same thing.

1 (40m 43s):
Lila, when you are debating and an older woman regarding abortion in a political union, okay? It's just not the same. So again, I ask, what is their investment that they are coming undone about me telling the truth? Because now I have to take the time and be queen petty and go through every single year dating back to 2018 to tell you when they got the events together. 'cause I can do that. I can do every semester from 2018 until 2024. What's the point here? I'm gonna do it. I want you, Savannah, I'm sorry this, we have to do this, but what are you, what are the, what's the point of disputing something and saying something is not true when I just told you it's true and I showed you evidence that it's true.

1 (41m 25s):
You're not even saying you, you're just, you're just lying. Actually at that point, you're being extremely dishonest. At the very least to make a video and say he's not becoming Catholic. That's not, he was a committed evangelical. Say, I don't know. Just say, I don't know. Why are you making these videos? I actually do know and I'm sharing information that I know because we deserve answers when there are strange anomalies. Now, is it possible that somebody knew somebody and made a phone call and made it happen? Yeah, but we, the public around the world who don't trust what we are being told would like to know who that somebody was that made that event come together very quickly, faster than I've ever seen event come together, given how universities act with hostility toward conservative groups that host a lot of people, which is what Charlie was, who Charlie was as a person.

1 (42m 17s):
He was somebody that was met with hostility by administrations when he went there, okay? Because it meant there were gonna be protests. They will burn you and effigy as they did to Michael Knowles at a turning point USA event. There has to be certain parameters that are set to allow these particular events to happen. But I appreciate you sharing your experience and the next time Taylor Swift tweets about her experience, I'm gonna just be like, not true, not true. Taylor Swift is like, I, you know, I can't walk into the mall and I'd be like, me neither. That's not true. I walked in, no fans ran up at me, Taylor Swift. So obviously Taylor Swift's lying because it didn't happen to me. It, it doesn't, as Justin Bieber says, it's just, it's not clocking for us, man.

1 (42m 59s):
Anyways, it is weird to me also that when you look at what they focus on, it seems so petty, but then they look over all of the glaringly obvious lies that were being told about this investigation. Like they're not making videos going, oh hey, yeah, spoke to like 10 hunters and a 30 odd six should have decapitated him. They don't care about any of that stuff. So are you doing this because you care about Charlie? Are you doing this because you care about the investigation? Because if you're gonna investigate, investigate, okay, send me a text message and ask me a specific question and say, where'd you give us information from? Join the team of people online who I never knew before this, who are investigating this murder and using sources do that either join us or get out of our way is what I would say.

1 (43m 40s):
Because if you're not gonna make a video or you are gonna make a video about a glaring obvious hole and then just poo p it, which is kind of what Allie did regarding the Fed discord messages. I watched a clip, she like softens it and says, well, even if these are written by the feds, I still think he was murdered by Tyler Robinson. Okay, so you're willing to what, give grace to the feds when they're may be lying, but you, you can't assume that I'm telling the truth about my experience having worked with an organization and the actual evidence that I have to back up what I'm saying. You, you have no grace on the matter of whether or not he might have been getting curious about Catholicism is the goal to tell the truth?

1 (44m 21s):
Okay? Why aren't you guys doing shows if you're so interested in debunking lies? Have you, have you done a show about Josh Hammer when we drop text messages? Did you do a show and go, wow, Josh Hammer really lied about Charlie Kirk's mindset because it's starting to feel a little bit like propaganda and it's the worst type of propaganda to me when you cage it as like Christians shouldn't, or Christians should, I'm investigating this. I care about it and it is my perspective that if you're in my way, I'm just gonna breathe fire and expose the truth. When I say breathe fire, it just means showing the truth, showing more truth. I'm gonna pull up, like I said, every email so that there is no debate or dispute about how long it takes for these events to go together.

1 (45m 2s):
Okay? Yeah, that's that. I don't, I don't love the crickets of these of these things. Also, I will also mention that Ali has strangely hired Alyssa Cordova, and this is just not a match for me. Alyssa Cordova was formerly the PR person, head PR person at Daily Wire. And when I tell you that this woman is evil, it's hard to put into words the things that she has put people through and she does it for the sport of it. Like she's one of these people that keeps a folder on her desk and she intentionally has out of context clips, which she then sends to people a, a whole little orbit of bees online like Ian Miles Chong, who's like a despicable human being and says like, attack this person and she'll do this, by the way, even if you're, if you're working with her, like she will undercut you and do these sorts of things.

1 (45m 49s):
And so when I see this kind of turn and I see that Alyssa Cordova is working with you, I'm wondering if this is just kind of like Zionist nastiness. I think I've been extremely gracious to the different perspectives that we have. If we are all committed to truth, we are obviously able to debate and I'm happy. By the way, I'll add this as well to have Allie or Lila Rose on this show tomorrow. If you guys would like to, to debate what I have presented thus far in addition to me telling you how Turning Point USA operates their events. I'm happy to do that and bring the evidence of what I'm saying. That always stands open. You will have a platform if you are committed to truth.

1 (46m 30s):
My platform is your platform. Now, speaking of PR and people who should maybe get into it, Alex Clark needs a raise. I don't even know what she's doing over at Turning Point USA this gets back into, you know, Erica Kirk as the CEO people are, we watched her lie, okay? We watched her lie about the Catholic thing. We're supposed to just feel good about that and think that she's traumatized, but she wasn't traumatized when she like wore boots and stood outside for Wall Street Journal to click a picture of her a couple of days after Charlie died. I don't know, it feels like she was good and she's a star now and tried to hard launch her podcast. She actually tweeted a couple of things the last couple of days, dripping with anger towards people that are asking meaningful questions.

1 (47m 14s):
Here's one thing she wrote. Let me tell you something about Mikey. He's a mate. Just kidding, she didn't say that. I'm one of the longest tenured employees now at the organization and Mikey has a servant's heart, if ever I've seen one. You know why he went to Korea and Japan? Because my boss, our direct, our productions director, who is the father of six children asked him to, he is always traveling with me, a good portion of it. And he missed his kids and he asked Mikey to please go and film instead. Okay, I'm just gonna say I, I I I think he probably went to Japan and Korea 'cause it's an awesome opportunity. I don't know, I'm just a person who's been around a lot and if I said, Hey, do you guys wanna go Japan?

1 (47m 57s):
Hip hip, hooray, it's amazing. It's not, it's not exactly, you know, going to build a house. What is it? A house for Habitat, habitat houses, whatever it's called, house for Habitat in the middle of like the jungle or something like that. It, it's, I think this is a pretty exciting opportunity. And so I don't understand why we just can't get basic answers about Mikey McCoy that would allow us to just move on from how we are feeling about his behavior following things and the things that were said about him following things which make us feel like they were priming him to take over for Charlie. And we heard these things from his father. We heard these things from people at Turning Point USA and if you're looking for a fact, he took over for Charlie who was slated to speak at Liberty University.

1 (48m 41s):
Okay? That's just a fact. Alex Clark also threw shaded us and it's kind of incredible that she said this working for Turning Point USA, here's what she wrote. Oh, on every podcast tribute episode I did about Charlie, I did not run my ad sponsorships, my directive and choice to my team. We are now in debt to my sponsors. I didn't care. It felt like the right thing to do. Okay, so Turning Point made something like $90 million in the couple of weeks following Charlie's death. I think I first heard it was 70 million. It's gone up since then. They were selling like t-shirts at the memorial event, like Freedom Charlie t-shirts.

1 (49m 21s):
They were selling products and she is, I guess, trying to imply that me speaking about his death and running ads is problematic. Now, first and foremost on our tribute episode, we ran absolutely zero ads. We didn't even let YouTube run ads on that episode. So this is not a tribute episode. This is my podcast and we're investigating this murder and every person who is doing podcasts, whether it's Ali speaking about his Catholic journey, Lila speaking about what happens, whether they're, whatever context they're putting it into, whether it's PBD and his team, which spoke a lot about Charlie Kirk after he died. Why are you looking at me as being the person who's reading my ads? What are, are you pretending you made some huge sacrifice because for a couple of episodes you didn't run ads?

1 (50m 6s):
This is what I, there was just so much inauthenticity coming out of this company right now. I'm such a good person. Look at me like I didn't read ads on two of my episodes, but I did do this Wall Street Journal thing and try to hard launch my podcast a couple days after he died. But look at, look at me. I, I declined to, to do what was the total amount that you postponed, by the way? Because you didn't decline it. You postponed having to read ads and said that you made them up later. It's just, there's, there's something that really bothers me about this. You know, they're angry at people who are investigating Charlie's death and catching them in lies.

1 (50m 47s):
That's why she's mad. She's mad because she lied about me on her podcast and I called it out. Okay? If you don't lie on me, I won't have to call it out. If you don't tell lies about things that took place about things that were happening at Turning Point USA at the reason why Charlie wanted a Doge as she did. Oh, we do this every, no, you don't do a Doge every year. You wanna know how I know that? Because Doge didn't exist before Elon Musk. So it's like, what are you saying? They want us to pretend we're really dumb and it's emotionally manipulative for them to be like, that's how you honor Charlie.

1 (51m 30s):
Pretend to be an idiot. Pretend to not know how accounts work. Pretend to not know what it means when we say certain things and then change our stories multiple times. Pretend like it's just beyond the pale that Candace would suggest that we're engaging in a coverup. Yes, I did say that. I didn't say that Mikey murdered Charlie Kirk. I said turning point is engaged in a coverup because that is literally the only reason that people why lie? Anytime you lie it's because you're covering up the truth. You're engaging in a coverup, even if it's a white lie. Even if I say, you know, I'm trying to surprise a friend for a birthday party and I tell her I'm the only one that's gonna be there.

1 (52m 17s):
Meet me here. It's a lie 'cause I'm covering up a certain truth, right? Truth. That is what lies are for. There is no other reason to lie unless you're covering something up. So you, when you lied about the Catholicism thing, it wasn't because you murdered Charlie Kirk, Alex, it was because likely you guys were more concerned with your Christian Zionist donors and also pressure from your Jewish donors. And so you just lied to cover up the truth about where Charlie was at. Can report USA is telling a lot of lies, they're engaged in a coverup. I said it. I am putting my name on that. I would not be apologizing for what I said, come forth with the truth or don't.

1 (52m 59s):
Okay? And if you don't, we're just gonna keep investigating and see how you feel about it.

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1 (55m 8s):
By the way, I do wanna say this, whenever they send all the dogs out about something very relatively minor like me saying that this event came together too quickly, there's something there. Like we now need to figure out exactly who put this be event together, because I just feel like money is being spent for everyone to freak out about something so minor I that just tends to be the pattern. Like I was saying about the Egyptian planes when they overreact, it's 'cause we hit a nerve it. And so we should focus our attention on how that event came together. If you work for the UVU Turning Point USA chapter and you would like to come forward, please email us at more tips@candaceowens.com and let us know how that event came together, who requested it specifically.

1 (55m 48s):
I've got a feeling about that we're we're close because they're even talking about lawyers. I mean, Alyssa Cordova, this PR girl actually wrote this. If we could pull up that tweet, I hope you're no, no. The other one where she says, did you pull her other tweet where she's like, I don't know the inner workings at Turning Point USA, but here it is. I don't have direct knowledge, but I assume there are non-disparagement agreements in place between Turning Point and Candace Owens because of TP USA's business arrangement with Bleitt. Weird that she knows that we have a business arrangement with Bleitt. But she's saying that and it's kind of like dangling like, Hmm, we could sue you. Sue me, sue me. I want subpoena power. I want all of your messages. Please do me a favor today on the Charlie Kirk case.

1 (56m 32s):
I've been clear I want all of the smoke from all of you. I you, I don't think you realize how real life this is for me. I went back and a list so hard, I was like, girl, don't care at all. Do not care at all. I'm over it. We're in a new time. It literally is God time, okay? All of this stuff. And that's how she operates by the way. She can treat you really evil, but there's an NDA preventing you. So you gotta allow her to abuse you. We're not doing this anymore, Alyssa. We're not doing this anymore. Whatever company needs to hear this today. Okay? You are no longer allowed to engage in sheer evil. You are no longer allowed to behave like Satan's children and then make little legal threats, okay?

1 (57m 14s):
Anything that gets sent to me from a lawyer is now publicized. That's it. Don't care who you are. If you're watching this and you're going, should I scream at Corby to send it to a lawyer? You probably should. Anything that you send to me is now public. Satan's time is done, it's done. Okay. Shouldn't have shot Charlie Kirk just shouldn't have killed Charlie Kirk. That's what I would say. Anyways, top comment from yesterday was somewhere Macron is breathing a sigh of relief. I don't know, man. Now that the podcast is gone, number one, people are gonna go back and watch the Brahe Macron series. And once you watch it, you just know you're like, she's a dude. Obviously it's such a bizarre thing. Like, like the media's been lying about that. It's like a really big secret.

1 (57m 55s):
It's like it's the elephant in the room. Dinesh dea, by the way, added this on X, he wrote at this point, anyone who follows this freak show is doing it for the entertainment. This is not political commentary, it's midget bowling. Why does he always write weird stuff? Hard to watch, but hard to look away from because there's a midget flying down the aisle heading for pins. Dinesh, where are you seeing all this stuff? Before he made the reference to a goat having sex with a human. And he keeps using these weird analogies. Like, I just think they gotta, they gotta look at his hard drive. I'm, I'm gonna call the FBI, I'm gonna call the F fbi. I I'm gonna call K Patel if he's done crying about the mean tweets on the internet for his girlfriend.

1 (58m 41s):
And we, I'm gonna call the F fbi Anyways, going back into some of your comments we have just keep in faith rights when you said you are a number one podcast in the world. It brought a tear to my eye, but I knew that, I mean, I didn't know. No, but I knew honestly it brought a tear to my eye when I found out because we've just been fighting and we don't look up and look at the stats and follow the stats every day. And we obviously knew that we had become in like the top three podcasts pretty quickly in the United States. But when you're fighting and you're building and you're constantly under pressure, you're constantly in a pressure cooker, it's kind of difficult to find a moment to peek your head up and to celebrate anything. And that really felt like this moment, moment.

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So I was very, very excited. Thank you guys so much for supporting us and allowing us to be truly independent. Michael Reese writes from East Tennessee to you. We are German, we appreciate your work. Keep standing up to the seven K Club. We have your back. Michael and Wayne, thank you so much Michael and Wayne. I will continue to stand up to them and I think we are winning because they were very angry and I don't even know what they're attacking me over at this point. Laughing catch writes, number one, podcaster. If you're a so-called freak per Dinesh and so are we. I love that you show Erica love and support. I do wish there was some sign that we could detect that she sees the lies that we see. We as in the millions upon millions making you the number one podcaster.

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Yeah, we're, I'm hopeful in the future, we are going to know what she knows. Obviously she is privy as a next of kin to the lawsuits. She's privy, I'm sorry, to the prosecution. She can see what evidence they actually have and what they're boing their case upon. Everything we have seen has just been, I don't know, it's just, it's it's been one big nothing Burger. Tom Paul writes, Andrew Colette on Alex Clark show discussed how Charlie's heart was still beating. How did Charlie instantly go to heaven if he had a pulse? Erica first saw Charlie at an airport in Israel in May of 2018 with her mom. There is an old video of her talking about it.

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Yeah, I think I I saw that video. I think they spoke about that even in other videos they'd done together. I think I was with Charlie, by the way. That might have been for the embassy opening. I don't remember anything though on my memory. I, I promise after having children, I I can't remember specific things. I always had to go back and check an email. Might've been for the embassy opening. I'm not positive, but yes, regarding that heart still beating if he instantly went to heaven. Didn't Andrew offer up an explanation? This was kind of one of the things why people were asking why, how did he go into surgery? Because they explained that he had died instantly. It wasn't just Erica, by the way. Frank Turk said it on stage that he knew in the car that he was gone, but maybe he still had a pulse.

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Again, this would be a great thing since they mentioned it for Andrew or Frank Turk to respond to. It's very easy thing for them to respond to, to clear up some confusion. Jesse Webb writes the amazing, heroic, outstanding, fearless, talented, intelligent, and beautiful queen Candace of podcasts. Take a bow. Nothing can stop you. The people have spoken and we choose truth in light over lies in darkness. Christ King, I I really do love that. It feels like we're are in a moment of truth and light. A lot is being revealed. It can feel stressful. It is certainly frustrating, especially for me to have myself constantly taken out of context and to have people just so willfully lying about me telling the truth.

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But I do know that there is a, there's just something else happening spiritually right now, and we are all barreling toward the light. I really do feel that way. The demons shriek the loudest when they are in the light. Brad Atkins writes, praying for you in South Carolina, the Lord Jesus Christ is king. Thank you, Brad MD Turner writes, you are top. Even though Australian moronic leaders won't let you in, keep at them. Well, I get to reapply in like a year or so, so maybe I'll try to come again down under good bean rights, time will inevitably lessen the sting of losing. Charlie. Our brains are designed this way for our protection. So please do not let the little foxes distract you from the mission.

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Got your back. Let's go. Canio, thank you so much. I am not distracted. This is the one thing they can't distract me on. Trust me, they have no power here. Truly, when it comes to figuring out what happened, I, I will be relentless. I'm typically relentless over matters that don't have as much significance to my life personally. Jit Macron, I mean that's a broader issue with perverts and power. But this one is, it is just so sinister or so evil. It's incomprehensible to consider what must be true to allow for all of this shade that the people who are asking questions are getting. And I just have known since the very beginning that this is not gonna be like JFK.

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We are actually going to get answers. This is going to be solved. And that's why they're worried because we won't let it go. We will not let it go arm. Hana writes, Candace, that was such a why statement. I cannot forgive until I know what I am forgiving. Thank you for saying I, I just, I obviously, I just speak to you as and whatever's on my heart. And that is how I think I feel. 'cause I'm like, what is wrong with me? Why can't I get here? And that's the answer. I don't know what I'm forgiving. Who am I forgiving? How do you say I forgive you? I'm talking about myself here. If I don't know who I should be forgiving, I I need to get there. She continues. Everyone wrestles with God, no matter how to devote they are to their face. Faith. I hope the truth prevails. Christ is king. Maria writes, thank you for keeping it real.

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Never let anyone impede your gut feelings. When your soul feels something is off, it's off facts. Yes, I we are designed that way. Our gut is our God instinct. And I we're being lied to like by a lot of people and people that I feel like we shouldn't be lied from are lying to us. Juan Antonio writes, Candace, you should team up with Dave Smith, Ian Carol and Jimmy Dore former a coalition share editors push promotion and spark occupy Wall Street 2.0 and the Fed, the Phil Tupac dream of a new party. I, I think I'm so traumatized from being at and like working for somebody else that I don't know that I could ever work for anybody else, but forming a coalition and helping each other.

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We already do behind the scenes, not, I haven't done that with Jimmy Dora, but anything these other people, Ian Carol, we text regularly. Dave Smith, we text regularly when we're sharing information. So, or asking each other questions or asking for guidance. And I look up to these people for what they're doing. I, I look not even up to these people. I look beside and I see these people and I know that we are like in a, in a line united and there is like an army that's rising and it feels to me like it is the army of God. I'd love to do work with Jimmy Dore. I I have loved his videos and he has made me laugh in his coverage of the absurd things that we are being told by the Charlie Kirk assassination. Minnie Mina Barbie writes, hi Candace, my name is Mina.

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You have made such a positive impact on my life. Today is my birthday and it would mean so much if you said happy birthday. Love you. God bless. Happy Birthday Mina. I hope you have a fantastic day. Your birthday already has great vibes because we are number one podcast in the world. So we will not forget your birthday. We will not forget November 6th. We will not forget it. It was, it's a major win. We should be happy, we should celebrate it. We can brag a little bit, but it, I am bragging from a true place of humility because I know that we would not have done this without you guys. You have the craziness behind the scenes. Even me making like my team coming with me from Daily Wire and there was, I remember Skylar messaging me being like, okay, are you gonna like write me a offer and an email?

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I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. You know, am I supposed send you an offer or what? And gratefully my husband pulled it all together. But these are now really fond memories because you know, I told them, I don't know how it's gonna work out. We can't offer, you cannot offer you health insurance in the first year. It could fail. So you are taking a real risk. Go speak to your families and see if that's something that you wanna do. And they said yes, and now we're the number one podcast in the world. So they took a chance on me and we busted our butts and here's where we're at. So thank you guys for supporting us on this journey to, to my original stand as cup owners, the first white Christ is ke stand as cup. I see you. I love you guys.

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You guys were here early and have been on this journey and so that feels good as well. I dunno what else to say other than book club people. Everybody that signed up on the website, you candace owens.com and we didn't know what we were doing. Just, I love you. I love you all so much and we'll see you tomorrow.

11/5/25

Mamdani Wins. Charlie Kirk Questions Haunt "MAGA". | Candace Ep 259



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All right, you guys. Happy Wednesday. For some people in New York City, momani won. Okay? That's kind of the big story The Republican establishments have. They have a lot of excuses regarding that win. The excuses are ranging from because there was too much infighting on the conservative side to this country has been taken over By Jihadists, I mean you name it, they have an excuse. I think the correct answer is because the establishment is just in complete denial left and right. What is happening is a populist movement and what is happening is that we are really sick of Zionism. We are really sick of lies in that same vein, in case you missed it, Brett Cooper is apparently the new Hitler, which I'm just wondering, can we just get these on iPhone alerts like Amber alerts, just a general Hitler alert so we can keep track of the newest person who said something totally sensible and is therefore now being accused of committing a Holocaust.

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It would just be easier that way for me as an iPhone user today it is in fact, Brett Cooper, so there's your update and in Charlie Kirk news, nothing is making sense still. Least of all the request and the confirmation window regarding the UVU event, I'm gonna show you that I brought the receipts today as usual, so welcome back to Candace. I'll tell you guys, there are a lot of stages of grief.

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The one they don't tell you about is when you get beyond all the stages, you've accepted that this person is not coming back, and then you just wanna punch people in the face for lying about everything. I'm there. Everything they are telling us is crazy town. Okay? I wake up and I learn something new and I get angry. I'm so angry, I'm taking it out on the team. I'm like, no, this does not make any sense. I can't explain to you why it doesn't make sense, because I went through Turning Point USA, but every little micro change is sending me in this moment. It's a very personal thing. I know how Turning Point operates their events, things that the world does not know I have been privy to, and that's why I said, you know what?

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Let's actually scour through my emails. I was like, Savannah, let's just go back so that we can share these things with the world that you guys can join me in my frustration of wanting to punch somebody, anybody in the face? Okay, so yesterday we had mentioned to you that it, the timeline is absolutely absurd. Okay? The absolute absurdity of turning point as we learned, having received a request from Charlie, from from, I'm sorry, from UVU for Charlie to speak on their campus in mid-July, okay? Just a few weeks before he dies. In mid-July, they get a request. Can Charlie speak on campus? And then they immediately approve that request and they schedule it as his first stop some six weeks later.

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That has never happened in the history of my having done campus tours, okay? This was a tour stop and this, you literally get these requests months before you start sorting through them. I mean, I'm gonna show you the real proofs that you can grasp, how atypical the setup is. Okay? Charlie and I went on tour in April of 2024 together. We actually also split doing certain locations because they wanna do as many locations all over the United States as possible. And April, up to 20 of, of 2024 is when our campus events began. I'm now going to show you an email of when we started planning that.

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Okay? So keep in mind the back of your mind. This request for UVU came in in July and they approved it for September. For my April, 2024 event. Here is when we started planning. Here's an email, okay? You will note that this email came in October of 2023. They told me, here are these events as briefly mentioned, were in the beginning stages of planning and requesting rooms for schools for next semester. For next semester. Let me know. These are pending availability and approval. University of North Carolina, chapel Hill, which I think we ended up doing, university of Pittsburgh, which I think we did, and the University of Alabama.

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We are talking about end of March and early April events, okay? In October of 2023. I am telling you guys, when we go back and we look at the calendar and we see that that request went out in mid-July, it drives me insane. It just screams at me that this was an inside job, okay? This was always a circumstance. This was not a special thing that happened. They would always say they would get requests in spring that they couldn't make happen, and then they would sort of roll them over and revisit those campuses trying to hit all of the quarters of the United States the following semester, which would be in the fall.

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They would go backwards. You don't, you don't instantly get approved for an event at turning Point USA. It reeks of an inside job. That is how I feel. And the more that we learn about these, the story, the little changes that happened, the inexplicable things that we're learning, it becomes clearer and clearer that somehow at some layer, at some stage turning point USA is involved because they're giving us no clarity. Why? Why did this get approval so quickly? The reason why they have to plan these so far in advance is because Charlie travels like a madman, okay? He's on a person that has nothing on his calendar. They can be like, yeah, sure, let's just do this event randomly. The second thing that was driving me crazy as well, which was completely atypical, is the fact that Charlie was slated to speak in Utah on September 10th, and then was due to return just 10 days later to a different campus in Utah.

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That's under two hours away. That's not how they plan events, okay? The idea is, if you're gonna fly and you're already gonna be in that corridor, try to do those campus events back to back, you would, you'll do a sweep. We did UCLA, we did Berkeley, we did Stanford. You do a sweep overnight over two days. You don't fly to Utah and then go back home to Arizona and then fly to Utah 10 days later. Nothing is making sense and we need to get to the bottom of why that is. This is looking to me, and you can let me know if you agree. It's looking to me like the apparent plan was to assassinate Charlie Kirk who had at long last faltered on vPro Israel cause okay, his words not mine.

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And then to stage a hostile takeover of his brand and of his legacy by pretending that his best friends in the world were like Susie Wiles, Susie Wiles and Co. Somehow she made it odd to the stage to eulogize him at this very public event. It's so publicized. We can't even doubt. I mean, obviously look who he's having speak your, your job around the world is to now support this administration in this administration's efforts because we turned this event into an effective Trump rally. That's, it looks that way to me. Then they were going to tell Americans as pastor Rob McCoy did that.

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It just so happened that Charlie Kirk kept notebooks and diaries. He was so diligent that he wrote down his succession plan featuring who he wanted to take over for the organization in the event of his untimely death. Like, you know, he just, in the third notebook, he was like, oh, and if I accidentally get shot on campus, here's what you should do. Call Erica and that after you call Erica, come find this notebook. And in his notebook you'll see that I am using adjectives like fantastic and heroic to describe Mikey McCoy. And if during this process of our imagination common sense comes on and we are like, oh, but wait, Charlie, wasn't he like a boy genius?

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Pretty, he's a pretty bright kid. Wouldn't he have maybe formalized that succession plan outside of like a diary, maybe call one of his many lawyers, maybe formalize it in a will. 'cause that's what you're supposed to do. If you are thinking about dying and you need to make a plan, you, you, you make a will. I'm sure he had a will, but no, he, he wanted put it in these notebooks and then the plan was to guilt us, I think, to try to haunt us with the ghost of Charlie's notebooks that we're never going to be allowed to read, but we're supposed to accept that they most definitely read like for sure. That's what it feels like. Do you agree?

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I think their thought process was it will be much easier for us to control the spirit of Charlie Kirk than the actual living, breathing Charlie Kirk. That's the vibe that I'm starting to get as I keep discovering all of these strange anomalies. And in the spirit of Charlie Kirk, in case you missed it, we're supposed to think that he would want us to be mad at Tucker Carlson and that he would want us to stop speaking about his murder and to instead unite and to get behind and support what feels like a hostile takeover of his company and his brand, and to commit ourselves further to the Republican cause, right?

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To do everything that we can to make sure that well Mom, Donny as just one example, does not become the mayor of New York. Well, guess what? It looks like we didn't do that. Looks like the plan maybe failed. Despite the billionaire bucks that were flowing into the anti Mom Donny campaign. He won pretty handily against Andrew Cuomo, which like five minutes ago, the Republican party was telling us he was unbelievably corrupt and that he should be in prison. And all of a sudden our, it was our duty to get the word out to get people to vote for Cuomo somehow. Again, bill Ackman almost personally ran against mom Donny, right? At times he even demanded to have a debate with Mom, Donny, which I don't understand the context of why man Donny would be debating Bill Ackman if he's not running against him.

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Point is Mom. Mom. Donny won. Okay? Bill gave 1.75 million and Mom Donny won irrespective of the money that was donated against him. Bill Michael Bloomberg also gave money to a Cuomo affiliated super pac. He gave $8.3 million to stop Mandani and it didn't matter. The Airbnb co-founder Joseph Gea, gave 3.1 million. It didn't matter. The Tisch family gave 1.2 million. It didn't matter. Still Mom Donny won. Why? Okay, if we're being honest, he probably won during the first mayoral debate.

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Okay? Just like if I reflect upon 2016, Trump kind of won in the first Republican debate because he was just kind of saying FU, the establishment, and it was pretty apparent. I want you to take a listen to this question. It's shocking actually. If you've never seen this, this is a question that was asked to the New York City mayoral candidates about which foreign country they would visit first if they won. So to be clear, the question on its space makes entirely no sense, but this is how it was answered. Take a listen.

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The first foreign visit by a mayor of New York is always considered significant. Where would you go first? Left, right Ms. Adams

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First visit, I would visit the Holy Land.

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Mr. Cuomo,

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Given the hostility and the antisemitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.

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Mr. Tilson, where would you go? Yeah, I'd make my fourth trip to Israel, followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror. Mr. Ani,

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I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that. Mr.

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Ani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel

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As mayor? I'll be doing as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers and I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform, because ultimately we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.

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As we see, I'm just, yes or no. Do you believe in a Jewish state of

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Israel? I believe Israel has the right to exist,

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Not as Jewish as a Jewish state,

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As a state with equal rights.

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He won't, he won't say it has a right to exist as a Jewish state. Be very clear. And his answer was no, he won't visit

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Israel. I I said that what? He was trying No, no. Unlike you, I answered, unlike you, I answered question first directly.

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My, my goal would be to take my first trip to Israel, my wife's life. Work in this area means a lot to our family and it could coincide with my young son, Miles' Bar Mitzvah.

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Just like this is our country, you guys. That's it. It, I will, I, you know what? I'm gonna take my 19th trip to Israel. Oh, well I'm gonna take my first trip after my son's bar mitzvah. Oh, I was planning on stopping over on the way for our honeymoon. We were gonna stop and just go to Israel and do whatever we could. It's ridiculous and it's obvious. And the way that the establishment comes down, if you don't pedal those talking points, he says something totally normal. Yeah, I'm gonna stay here in New York. Why do I have to make a trip to Israel? And he says, I'd rather work with the Jewish New Yorkers that are here. That makes sense. Why are they all coming down on him? Why have all of our politicians left and right, sold us out, okay, Republican party, I won't, I'll never forget during the presidential debates, they were all wearing the majority of 'em.

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I think there was only, only Vivek Ram Swami was not wearing the Israeli pin. I'm like, what are you, you're running for president of the United States. What are you doing wearing the Israeli flag as a pin on your jacket? No one can answer these questions. And they do the same thing. I love Israel more. No, I love Israel more. No, I love Israel more. Keep in mind, by the way, Mandani won and New York has the largest population of Jewish people of any city in the world next to Israel. So that says something. Okay. And he still won. Now did he get the majority of the Jewish vote in New York? No, but the exit polls are quite stunning. He got way too much of the Jewish vote in New York, I would say. And I'm gonna bring in Mark in my ear to Mans Mansplain what we're seeing here on the exit polls.

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Mark, can you please mansplain?

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Yeah, as you can see, it looks like he, despite not winning the Jewish vote, he got a huge proportion of it. 32% is, is pretty insane for allegedly how anti-Israel he is. And even deeper in here, you can see that Israel was a factor in a lot of these people's votes. This is according to a CNN exit poll of about 4,700 people coming out. And really it's, it's an election for mayor of New York. I don't see what this has anything to do with that.

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Yeah, I mean it's just, this is just something, and I think it also speaks to when Norm Finklestein was on our show and he was explaining that even amongst the Jewish community, like the Israel question is now here and it's not gonna go around, it's not gonna go away. This is sticking around. But I guess the bigger broader question is why didn't MAGA maga, why didn't MAGA maga, why didn't MAGA do the thing? We've infiltrated MAGA and we told them to do what we want and we wanted them to all make posts and time momani posts. Just to be clear, even Donald Trump, president Trump dedicated 900% more truth social posts to ensuring that Ani would lose than to ensuring that Charlie Kirk's murderer was found 900% increase in messaging coming from him since he didn't even send one message about investigating Charlie's murder.

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But the question is, why didn't Mag listen even to Trump? Why didn't we all get on our platforms and say something? Because people like Dana Lash wanna know how. How are we gonna win if you guys don't use your platforms and encourage people to vote? Well, the answer's pretty obvious. We don't recognize this MAGA because the fact that you're in it makes no sense. You were never Trump. If you're telling us that MAGA is now Josh Hammer, then MAGA is not maga. Okay? Maga needs a new leader and it's pretty obvious that you guys recognize that we've never been with you. We've actually never been on the same team. And if you think you're gonna infiltrate and convince us that this is the same party while we get gaslit about everything that's happening, like I said, you lost the party.

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Ma Maga got fractured. Not when Tucker Carlson interviewed Nick Fuentes, but when Donald Trump looked at us in our faces and said, Epstein, who, that's when it was game over. Because Israel first is a cancer cell. It is a cancer cell left or right to everything and everyone that wants to play around with it, it is a radical psychosis that has manifested its itself within both parties. And it is so radical that in case you missed it yesterday, they started attacking Brett Cooper. Brett Cooper, 23-year-old, bubbly Brett Cooper. She makes the majority of her videos dedicated to pop culture.

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Yes, she, she covers things that are, I would say, mainstream politics. Nothing too daring, never talks, speaks about Israel. And she did her part, by the way, Zionist wanted her do her part and encourage New Yorkers to get out and vote against mom Donny. But it's not enough of course, 'cause this is a radical ideology. You give them 100%, you even say one critique and they don't wanna break bread with through you. They wanna destroy you. And that's what they wanna do to Breck Cooper because she watched the totally deranged Tucker is not MAGA Republican Jewish coalition event and she agreed with the majority of sensible people that demands to censor speech to de platform.

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It's not only childish, it's also ineffective, it's also antithetical to what it means to be a conservative. So I'm gonna let you listen to what Brett Cooper said about Randy. Fine. And let me know if you're just so offend, so offended that you think that she needs to be canceled and destroyed. Take a listen to what Brett Cooper said.

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Like Randy, fine if you don't know who he is, he's representative from Florida. He's the same guy who bragged about not washing his hands after he had a handshake with Netanyahu. He's repeatedly introduced bills to criminalize antisemitism, infringing upon free speech. Meaning he obviously, I'm sorry to say, but he obviously cares more about Israel than he does. You know, principles like free speech. So buddy, like my advice to you Randy, fine, is just move to Israel at this point. Like considering you had to go through anger management classes a few years ago, I genuinely think you would probably be happier if you just moved to Israel. And that's not a dicked him, that's just a fact. It's a nudge of encouragement. I want everybody to be happy. I want everybody to be healthy. I think you would be happier if you just moved to Israel. You could be over there singing songs with Mike Huckabee.

0 (19m 38s):
Seems like pretty sound advice. Rather than trying to make this country Israel, why don't you just go live in Israel and here's what she had to say regarding Ted Cruz. Take a listen.

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You are so blinded by your ridiculous, insane hatred of Tucker Carlson that you cannot see how irresponsible and hypocritical you are being. I mean these tweets from Ted Cruz, I'm gonna read you next, are a great example of this. So just a month ago he tweeted this. He said, they don't kill you because you're a Nazi. They call you a Nazi so they can kill you. Political violence is a left wing phenomenon. Enough is enough. We need to shut it down. And then in response to Fuentes and Tucker this week, he tweeted, this Trump's bombing of the Ayatollah's nuclear facilities made the little Nazi mad good. So now you're turning around and you're calling somebody that you don't like a Nazi. You're doing this out of blind rage because you're so angry that conservative basis attitudes are rapidly changing, that Nick Fuentes is getting national attention.

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And so you have turned around it in response, you are compromising your own values and anger, which is such a dangerous precedent to set. And unfortunately for you guys, yes, the attitudes are changing. So again, it makes sense why this group is incredibly frantic.

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She's a voice of Gen Z. So you would think that the good thing to do here would be to to listen to break bread for someone to reach out and invite her onto a show so they can talk about it so they can hear their voices. You might recall Charlie Kirk did this. He sat down with Gen Z and said, I'm trying to tell them that they are pushing an entire generation away with their actions. But we know how they responded to Charlie Kirk doing that. They started calling him an antisemites. They started squeezing him up until the last moments of his life. They were making financial threats to him and not just financial threats. They made good on those threats. People like Bob Schulman took $2 million away from him because he let Tucker Carlson hit the stage. They've learned nothing. They've learned nothing. And so rather than trying to reach across and say to Gen Z or to say to Brett Cooper, Hey, I'd love to have you on our show, or Hey, I'd love for you to meet this person.

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They're already calling her the white Candace Owens. If you're Aaron Wexler, here's an actual tweet, okay, white Candace, what is a Nazi? Then? Like what? How does that make any, why are you calling Brett Cooper, the white Candace? Like why are you even thinking about the fact that Brett Cooper is white? Why? Why do we keep seeing this recurring theme of Jewish supremacists constantly having to comment on white people? Like isn't why, why does she have to be the white Candace? That's ridiculous. Nothing. We don't even have the same ideas. It's completely, she's saying something sensible, but it gets worse. Ted Cruz, who's a pretty sensible guy, comes out and big tries a big timer.

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I don't know how we thought that would land. She's 23 years old. She, it looks very ish. She tried to big time a 23-year-old with who are you? Here's what he had to say. I don't know who this angry lady is, but she's missing a key distinction. Fuentes calls himself a Nazi. He has said that Hitler is very cool and Hitler was right and he is on Team Hitler. If you explicitly side with and advocate for Hitler, you are an actual effing Nazi. Like first off, class it up. We don't need to dropping F-bombs to a 23-year-old. Secondly, trying, like I said, trying to big time her and act like you don't know who she is. When you have done various things with the Daily Wire, including fe, you were featured in a movie that Brett Cooper starred in at the Daily Wire.

0 (22m 55s):
Lady Ballers. You're good friends with Michael Knowles, you know fully well who Brett Cooper is. And like that was a super classless tweet coming from you. Like what does she have to do? Like run for president and not win to be recognized on a global scale. Again, doing nothing to bring people over to their cause. And because it's not just about trying to big time people, but you will find that there is this current of just sheer evil that Zionism goes hand in hand with trying to destruct deconstruct who an individual is. Very quickly they began pouring through all of Brett's old content looking for ways to go after her character.

0 (23m 37s):
And they came across a clip of her speaking to Sean Ryan last year. Now before I give you the context of this clip, I want you to listen to it because it will really help you process just how spiritually evil and possess these people are. Okay? This is the tweet that went up a couple of tweets that went up saying essentially she's a witch. I'm not kidding. This is a real tweet. What a surprise. Brett Cooper and her mom engage in witchcraft. She's not a conservative. I don't care how hard people wanna gaslight me about it. Here's another tweet. Brett Cooper, the most recent hero of the woke, right, is a secular nominally religious spiritualist. Her views are inherently un-Christian, but that doesn't matter to the woke, right?

0 (24m 17s):
As long as she agrees with or permits their hatred of Jews, she's good to go in their book. This is not a Christian movement. Here is the clip they are referring to.

12 (24m 28s):
We did all sorts of, my mom visited mediums right after, I mean I haven't done that and I kind of want to, but she's like, she did. She went to multiple mediums like one in New York where you're, you don't tell them or even his assistant like who you are or anything about you and you go to this hotel room and he would just like sit there. I was like talking about it just so weird. And both her first husband and David popped up. Are you serious? Yeah. And we're like, there's a a 17-year-old young man here who wants to speak to you. I mean, it was like, I was actually just thinking about this meeting the other day.

12 (25m 9s):
I was googling trying to see if I could find him. I need to ask her mom the name 'cause I would love to go just do this. But yeah, she was able to speak to Don, her first husband, to hear from him. She had a miscarriage between the, between the boys I think, and I'm pretty sure they did one of the medium things that baby came in, said something, you know, the lights just dim behind you twice. I saw that.

0 (25m 33s):
Okay, so now let me properly contextualize the conversation that they're having. It's actually one of the most compelling and moving conversations I've ever seen Brett Cooper have. It's a very powerful episode of the Shawn Ryan show because she tells her backstory and you realize how much substance she has and the things that she lived through. She lived through a lot. This is somebody who had twin brothers and one of her twin brothers dropped dead from a heart attack unexpectedly. And when she describes the dynamics of what they went through as a family, meaning things, you don't think about having an identical twin brother and then one half of you, you are literally a split cell dies. Suddenly what that does to the other twin brother who has to walk by the mirror every day and see his brother, but his brother's actually dead.

0 (26m 21s):
So her brother that survived went and he went crazy. He, and she takes care of him. He is in a mental hospital and she's talking about the grieving process that they went through, what her mother went through. Her mother went and visited mediums like, may, you never know the pain of losing a child like I it is, it is something that I I, I can't even fathom the pain of losing a child and how it ripped through her family. And she and and effectively lost a second brother because of the having lost the first brother and trying to come to terms with the fact that the, her family's never gonna be the same again. How it led to divorce all of these things. And they're just going, she's a witch. Her mother went to go visit a medium. That's it.

0 (27m 1s):
Case closed. I mean, what is wrong with these people? I am telling you there is no way that we can break bread. The Israel first movement, like I said, is a true cancer. It just wants to destroy. There is so much hate. But I also wanna be clear that, that they are growing increasingly dangerous because they are radical at their hearts because these are the descendants of Bolsheviks. This is not something just to laugh at, it's something to pay attention to, okay? Because if they're going after Brett Cooper in this demonic of a way, someone who's just a bubbly girl who speaks mostly about pop culture and now they're trying to dig up content and say that she's a witch, we're supposed to, we're supposed to drown her, burn Brett Cooper at the stake, then where does that put the rest of us?

0 (27m 43s):
And their rhetoric is getting dangerous. They're saying another nine 11 is coming. I'm gonna tell you guys about that in a little bit. Don't go away.

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0 (30m 39s):
Alright, so the establishment has never hated me more particularly because I'm looking into this Charlie Kirk case. I'm not gonna stop doing that. A couple of questions that I wanna put out in the public by the way, regarding that. But there was this riveting segment that apparently happened in July on CNN that I saw for the first time this morning 'cause it was going around on X. And it's really amazing and it really is just, I guess, how people feel about me in the establishment media in a nutshell. So let's take a listen to CNN.

13 (31m 5s):
Not only is she stupid, but she's also disgusting, right? I mean, Candace Owens has gotta be one of the most disgusting folks who, whoever gets airplay on any major network in this country, and

14 (31m 15s):
This is actually not even the worst of Can

13 (31m 17s):
Owens, no, she's an antisemite that says quite a lot. Yeah, yeah. She's an antisemite, she's anti-gay, she's an antisemite. She has said stuff about the history of slavery in this country. That's disgusting. Yes, it's funny in so far you know that that, you know, she, her statements make no sense. But when we really get to the core of the issue, she's just a disgusting human being. And that's the bottom line.

0 (31m 42s):
I'm sorry but that's just objectively funny. It's funny 'cause they're being serious and it's funny when we get to the core of the issue. Yeah, she's a antisemite. Yeah, she hates women, she hates black people. She hates it when we get to the core, she's just a disgusting person. All right, cool. Let's keep plotting along. Couple of updates on the Charlie Kirk story and something that is really bothering me in the back of my mind. Actually a lot of things are bothering me, but here are two more things that are bothering me. Charlie was never rendered any first aid immediately. I know the security team, I know that one of them is supposed to administer first aid immediately. We don't see that happening. I've seen everything from different angles. When he's down on the ground, they don't put any gauze on him, they don't put their, they don't even put a hand where the wound is to try to stop the bleeding.

0 (32m 29s):
In fact, when they pick him up, he is flopping all the way to the car. His neck is not even being held in a manner like they're trying to, to to stop the wound from opening up. And something that really struck me as what is going on is the fact that he was never even put on the ground after he fell from the chair. Okay, I'm gonna explain this to you now. You know I have the back footage, I have the side footage and what you can see is that the first thing that happens is the security guard actually grabs Charlie. So Charlie doesn't actually fall from the chair. The security guard lifts him and guides him onto the ground, which is what you're supposed to do. Obviously get low unless you're Mikey McCoy, when shots go off, you're supposed to get low.

0 (33m 13s):
And so he puts him behind the table but he guides him on top of a, a suitcase, an equipment suitcase so to speak. I'm gonna show you guys that, 'cause no one is actually caught onto this and at no point do they take him off of this. Okay? So whatever like 30 seconds pass and it just strikes me as really odd that you wouldn't put him flat and straight and then they're all kind of huddled over him on top of a suitcase, like an equipment box so to speak. So here is this, I'm gonna show you that. Look, has anybody caught this? Charlie was never actually put onto the ground and his head, which we're obviously blurring out here, his head is flopped over, he is not level this entire time as they are laying over him.

0 (33m 55s):
They never put him on the ground. I find it very strange that those equipment boxes are even there. They're on either side of him, which is very strange as far back as we could look, we couldn't see this sort of a setup. Everything is weird this day. And on the inside they have these boxes. So I'm actually putting this out here because A, it's weird. But B, I am wondering, and maybe somebody can look this up, so know everybody is looking at different angles of footage. If they moved that box that Charlie was on, if that box was moved before camera boy comes and removes the cameras or was that box, that equipment box still there? Because that's only about four minutes that passes and I don't recall seeing that equipment box in the aftermath and it's just weird they kept him on it.

0 (34m 40s):
Like that's just not even in common sense scenarios. If I was there and I was not being paid millions and millions of dollars to, to secure the venue like these individuals were annually, I would know that you have to get a body flat to administer any sort of aid to assess things. It's, I don't know what they're, I actually don't know what they're doing for about 20 seconds, for about 30 seconds down there. I don't know what they're doing. They seem to be huddled up doing what? Doing what exactly are you doing? If you are not securing the wound, if you're not even trying to get his head level, what are you doing? That's a long time to be down there according to me. And common sense, just common sense. You gotta do something, you just need, they don't even open their bag to try to administer any aid and they're paid millions of dollars per year to do that anyways.

0 (35m 24s):
The second thing, if, if you have that footage, if you can see if that box is moved, I would like to know if that box is still there and four minutes later when they start taking down the equipment. Second thing that is bothering me is, or you know, 1000000th thing that is bothering me is Mikey McCoy's instant phone call. We've already discussed it, it's strange, okay? They're definitely lying about the fact that he's covering his ears because I just saw more footage and he never stops this move for a single second. Even when he gets way beyond and starts going left towards a parking lot and he's finally out of view, he never once puts this down. So I, I still holding and maybe thinking what it doesn't make any sense.

0 (36m 6s):
Okay? Anyways, I have been sort of not wanting us to engage in setting aside our common sense. Obviously the excuses that we have been given, none of it makes the excuse the excuses make even less sense actually. And the excuse that we were given about what Mikey was doing is like running in the back of my head. Blake Neff who was there, he's also carrying on Charlie Kirk's show and he was pretty fired up about people asking questions about what Mikey was doing. And I just want you to listen to what Blake Neff says that Mikey was up to in those seconds. Now I, like I said, we can track Mikey, okay? Here is what he says.

0 (36m 46s):
Just to listen to what I actually find to be quite odd about this. Take a listen,

16 (36m 51s):
The shooting occurs, I am next to Mikey. Both of us hear a loud crack. We both turn, we both see Charlie who has been shot. Both of us I think at about the same time realize that that means there is a shooter who is on the scene and you know, you just hear the crack. So you don't know did it come from far away? Did it come from close? Is there a mass shooter unfolding right now? So I and him both had the reaction of let's get out of here before we're both shot. That is not us abandoning Charlie. Charlie had a security team, they all leapt immediately into action and they got Charlie out of there, which was what their job was to do. My job was not to get in the way and screw this up because like I had to be a hero.

16 (37m 33s):
That was not my job. I remember even running past both of us going past the, you know, the SUV that we came in on and me thinking, should I get in that car? And then thinking, no, that's a really stupid thing to do. And then I kept going. So I was not with Mikey IME or I don't remember being with him. I think I was ahead of him as we left. Yeah. And then we get out and I run for must have can't have been more than 15 or 20 seconds. And then I realize there hasn't been another shot. So the shooter has likely been detained or stopped or something. Not in immediate danger. I pause, I look around me and I see Mikey and I see Mikey there and I'll never, truthfully, I will never forget what I saw because I've seen Mikey almost every day for the past two years.

16 (38m 16s):
I know his personality very well. He's a very bubbly guy. He's a very happy guy almost all of the time. And I'll never forget what I saw because it was clear in the moment that he, he was profoundly freaked out. What I'll always remember is the way his, his lip was quivering, which I'd never seen before. And you, you very rarely see from someone that he was freaking out. And then I think he literally said to me, I, I might be imagining this, but I think what he literally said was he's, and then he was looking around and then he says, I, I need to call Erica. And he then he takes his phone and he begins calling Erica. And I don't want to disclose how that yeah, call unfolded, but he did that.

16 (38m 56s):
This, you know, your mind extends all of this, but that is happening within a minute of all of this occurring. I remember he calls Erica, I around the same time I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, mom, there's been a a shooting. You're going to see it on the news. I'm okay, you know, pray for me. I've gotta go. And I remember that call and around the time I, I put that phone away and then he immediately calls his dad, he calls Robin McCoy and he says, dad, someone shot Charlie, you need to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray right now. And that's what he told him. And I guess it just, it's very disgusting for me as someone who witnessed this, who saw Mikey hugely distressed and then step up in the moment because after that was call, that call was over.

16 (39m 45s):
I saw Mikey like get total mastery of himself that he realized he had to step up in this situation. And he, from that point, he was like, he was like a general directing a battle where he was, you know, grabbing people and saying, okay, we need to get to the hospital and we need to do these things and you guys need to wait here. I need to get in here to get information so that I can get it, to get it to Erica and well can I just, when we, when we learned he was dead, it was, he came out and he told us and then he says, and he says, now none of you can say anything that you've heard because it is, Erica is not going to hear about this from anyone except me.

0 (40m 21s):
Okay? So here is, what is wrong with that first and foremost because we have further footage of Mikey walking, there was no way he was covering his ears, okay? He just, he doesn't dial and he keeps it like this all the way past Charlie Charlie's car. Think Charlie's coming in, Mikey goes straight past the car and then he goes all the way to the left and he never brings his his hand down, okay? He's not covering his ears for that long. If it doesn't make any sense, Blake might think he's telling the truth but it's not a true account of what happened on that day. Okay? I'll say that again. Blake might think he's telling the truth. So it is possible that Blake is not lying, okay? But it is not a true account of what happened on that day.

0 (41m 2s):
Clearly it, and it looks to me like he knows where he is going. It is up right by the parking lot that in the general direction of the parking lot that he seems to be going straight and then to the left. And he is on the phone already and Blake ne Neff is nowhere to be seen. We can track those movements. We are told that within the minute of Charlie getting shot, he called both Erica and he called both Robbie McCoy. And that's one of those little things that's really messing with me because the implication here is that the call with Erica had to be fast, okay? The implication here is that the call with Erica had to be fast. I want you to imagine you get a phone call, okay? From whoever saying that the person that you love most in this world and the person that you are married to has been shot.

0 (41m 48s):
How fast are you getting off that phone? You're staying on the phone, you're asking questions. There was a series of questions that need to be answered. You scream, what do you mean? What are you talking about? Where is he? Where do I go? Blah, blah blah, blah. Is he okay? I mean there, there are a litany of questions that would be asked and please don't tell me that this is some situation where that wouldn't be the circumstance. I I am so tired of the you wouldn't know what you would do. I do know that you're asking a series of questions, which means naturally if what he is saying is true and until they reunited, which does not happen in our eyesight, we do not see Blake and Mikey reunite when we track Mikey all the way straight down to the left, okay?

0 (42m 29s):
The 1223 minute has gotta be over by the time he sees his lip quiver. By the time he says I have to call Erica and then he is gonna call Erica and I'm supposed to believe what this was a 15 second phone call. Hey, Charlie's been shot, gotta call you ba later. Like, 'cause I gotta call my dad and ask him to pray. By the way, that one too doesn't make sense. You could call your dad after you call 9 1 1. I mean there's so many things that would happen before I called my dad and asked him to pray if you're really gonna snap into it. And I know for a fact also that one of his first phone calls, it wasn't just two phone calls he made, he made three. 'cause he also called Elizabeth McCoy, his wife who screamed at the office. Okay? And so we're not being told the truth. That's what I'm getting at. We are not being told the sensible truth.

0 (43m 14s):
Was his phone call to Erica only 10 seconds, like you just drop that news and keep it moving. Or was he already on the phone with Rob McCoy? What? What happened? Okay, I need clarification because every day that goes on, it feels to me like Turning Point is engaged in a coverup. And there's no other way to say this. There's no other ways. I don't care who at Turning point tweets, I literally do not care. I will breathe fire on all of you. I know how these events work. Why was this event confirmed so quickly when it was requested so late? Answer these questions. I need answers to these questions to understand what happened on that day. Because the way that Mikey moves is like he knows where he's going. It's like they know where they're gonna meet and we know that they got to the hospital very quickly.

0 (43m 55s):
'cause Blake Neff says elsewhere, they got into the hospital within 25 minutes, okay? They knew that means they knew instantly where the hospital was. They knew which direction to go to, the communication that's flowing. I think Frank said he was on the phone while they were in the car with his family members. Don't quote me on that. So all of this happened, you instantly got to the hospital, which by the way, the hospital was put on lockdown when Charlie came in. That's what we were told. They let Mikey and the turning point boys in. Maybe that's true. It sounds like it is true. Obviously we know that you were there when they came out and said that Charlie had died according to Blake Neff and according to Frank Turk's testimony. But a lot of this little stuff is not making sense, okay?

0 (44m 35s):
It's not making sense and you cannot tell me that to dispel this rumor, right? By letting people see the call logs, by letting people see the video footage would somehow hurt the case. 'cause that's the BS they're selling us right now. Like transparency would hurt the case. And like I've said, if transparency would hurt the case, then it's because you, you don't have a case, okay? If transparency would hurt the case, it's because you don't have a case. And if you're telling me that your phone logs on that day, your phone logs on that day would somehow hurt the case. You are asking me to be an idiot and I can't be an idiot. I can't pretend that I was born yesterday. You're lying. They're lying about the phone calls, they're lying about the timing of the phone calls.

0 (45m 17s):
The phone calls don't make sense. So I wanna say that I'm gonna chill. I'm getting a little fired up. I said I wasn't gonna do that, but I'm getting fired up again. Okay? Now I am hopeful that we're gonna get some more clarity in the future. And something else that I wanna say, building on yesterday, the feeling I'm getting, that they were positioning Mikey to be the new Charlie. Well here's another little fun fact. Obviously after Charlie died, there were no new scheduled posts on his YouTube page. Meaning like, you know, on your YouTube page there's the live section, that's where you guys are right now. They had the live videos of people at the memorial event. But in terms of like schedule posts to go out, they didn't bring back his YouTube channel and start scheduling those posts until after the memorial event, which makes sense.

0 (46m 6s):
It would've been all hands on deck for the memorial event. And when they came back and began scheduling posts on Charlie's channel, the first post they scheduled was Mikey McCoy's speech. It was a picture. I'm gonna show you this look. So it goes in order from bottom to top. So you see, you've got Charlie and Ben, you've got Charlie, Charlie and Jack Po Soc, you've got Charlie, you've got Charlie and then stops. And then when they bring the channel back, even before they put Erica's speech, they put Mikey McCoy and his wife. I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it at all. This stinks to high heaven, okay? Of all the speeches you could have picked to put first, right?

0 (46m 48s):
You could have picked JD Vance, you could have picked Trump, you could have put Erica Erica's. The second you put Mikey McCoy and his wife, what's going on? Anyways, I am hopeful that some more points will be clarified tonight when the very anticipated interview drops between Jesse Waters and Erica Kirk. I will be watching, I am actually ecstatic to hear more from Erica. I know she's obviously been given that time to, to grieve and I'm hopeful that she's gonna provide just a bit more sense to this entire situation. I just, I, I need more sense applied to the situation. Lastly, and switching gears here, what I want to say to you, and this is building upon what I said earlier, is pay very close attention.

0 (47m 31s):
Because all of the wrong people, and by this I mean the pro-Israel crowd are signaling hard to us that another nine 11 is coming. They're jacking up these jihad rhetoric, everyone's a jihadist. Muslims like Muslims are coming, the Muslims are here. Bob Donny, there's a jihadist threat. Something big is coming. And the Pentagon, okay? Like where the Department of Defense is housed, the Pentagon, which was implicated in nine 11. A lot of questions about what the Pentagon was up to money. A lot of questions about the Pentagon, okay? They have just given press passes. They just put Laura Loomer in their press corps. I'm not kidding.

0 (48m 11s):
Check out, check this out. Check out this headline. Conservative activist Laura Loomer, a Trump ally says she has a new Pentagon press pass. Now this is of interest. It should be of interest to everybody 'cause you're, you don't have to be a Laura Luer hater or a Laura Loomer lover to know that Laura Loomer quite literally has psychiatric issues, okay? She has been on multiple psych 51 50 holds. She is the person who, in case she didn't know this, chained herself to Twitter when she got banned from Twitter and she wore a star of David. Now crazier than the fact that she changed herself with Twitter headquarters and was wearing a star of data. David, and trying to correlate being banned from Twitter as being in a Holocaust is the fact that Laura Loomer is factually not Jewish.

0 (48m 54s):
Okay? So she's living in a delusion that she's even Jewish. She just, that was politically expedient for her to say that she was Jewish. She can't produce any bat mitzvah pictures 'cause it never happened. No bat mitzvah just never happened. She became Jewish, in essence, I suppose, for political reasons and has gone so far in this identity crisis that she changed herself to Twitter headquarters and made it like a Jewish thing when they kicked her off of Twitter back in night in 2018. I don't even, I don't even agree with the fact that they kicked her off. I don't agree with them kicking anybody off. But you should know that our Department of Defense, for whatever reason is signaling that she's an okay person to be in the building.

0 (49m 34s):
That just seems like maybe a flight risk. Like if you're just interested in basic safety and defense, you wouldn't allow that person in a building like the Pentagon specifically. And they're doing that Why? Because she has proven over and over again that she has no soul and she will lie over and over again on people, on places and on things that she sees with her own eyes as long as she defends the state of Israel, which has absolutely nothing to do with her and her ethnicity, which is insane. Okay? On top of that, we have Josh Hammer, who just looks evil, just looks like a bond villain who is similarly signaling along with many others that there's gonna be another nine 11. And again, the pro-Israel crowd would know a little something about that.

0 (50m 17s):
Take a listen to what Josh Hammer said,

17 (50m 20s):
New York City for the time being, it looks like you are pretty screwed for the time being. It looks like you are literally going to have a Karl Marx quoting, Hamas Loving Red Green Alliance. Sicko. Yes, he is an absolute sicko. You're gonna have this guy as the next mayor, A quarter century. A quarter century, just under a quarter century actually after nine 11, after the largest Islamic mass terrorist attack in, in global history, certainly in American history. But finding another single casualty event that killed that many people as were tragically killed on September 11th, 2001, a day that as a native suburban New Yorker, myself, I remember all too well, less than a quarter century later they are going to have a Muslim mayor and not merely a Muslim mayor, but a Muslim mayor who, who has refused repeatedly to utterly condemn things such as globalize.

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The Indo who injected his unique far left noxious brand of Middle East politics, somehow injected that into a municipal election there for various identitarian identity politics reasons there.

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Who are you more afraid of as an American Muslims or Zionists? I'm gonna go ahead and say Zionists for me personally. 'cause like whenever they get on this thing where they start talking about like, there's gonna be a war whenever they start itching for war. Like they, they, they want a regime change in Iran. They find a reason that there need something happens and suddenly our boys are being sent. So what I will say is, your best guard against this is just to refuse to fight, to fight in the war that I think they're foreshadowing. Just refuse. Refuse honestly that on a principle, refuse, because our administration has been infiltrated and there are extremely evil people that are at the helm of the United States military and that are not caring at all about American lives.

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In my viewpoint, not taking a stance whatsoever for the freedoms that people in the past have fought for, like this administration is even fighting for, is not even fighting for free speech on college campuses anymore. And it's a turnaround. It is a 180 from the Trump that came down the escalator. I will not support it. You're not gonna convince me that this is the MAGA movement. It's not. And the reason I know it's not is because all the never Trumpers are praising it. And I've always been against never Trumpers. So if Trump joined the never Trump party, then good on him. But I'm not following him there. That's so I'm gonna say on that topic before we answer some of your comments, we'll throw it to a few sponsors.

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All right, I told you we're gonna start pulling the top comment from every episode. So this is the top comment from yesterday's episode. Margaret writes, pastor McCoy makes me feel very uncomfortable. Something very evil emanates from this man. He does not have a good face. I agree with you. Like I said, Charlie always said, the eyes are the window to the soul. I look at him and I know that everything is wrong. I just know that everything is wrong. Stephen Forker writes, Candace, I've been a supporter of Trump since 2016, but after Charlie's death and the complete lack of transparency, is this still the same Trump that Charlie, you and millions of others voted for and believed in? Absolutely not. And like I said, it was before Charlie's death. It then the mass demo moment for me that we had been completely occupied was when he said, why are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

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A story was released later that he was protecting some of his donors. And that's the problem. You know, it's, that's his vice. Trump loves money and he, it looks like he has sold his soul for money. That's, that's the reality. And like I, they're not gonna convince me that I have to support an administration that wants to gaslight me about a person who harmed children. Okay, not gonna happen. John Diamond writes, dear Candace, if we are in the Matrix and we are, you are Morpheus, all you offer is the truth on a personal thank you for helping the scales flaw for my eyes, regarding Israel, as always, love to you George and your kids. Christ is king. Indeed he is. And look, we all wake up at some point. It, I'm grateful if people have learned from my, my show, I hope that people will challenge themselves to read the books.

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Because you can't just realize what's happening today. You have to also recognize what Israel, how it came together. You have to start with Sigmund Freud, the early Zionist movement. Theodore Herzl, his connection to him, why they were connected. We talk about this on my book club. Even if you can't join the book club, you can still buy those books. And so I, I would start with the Assault on Truth by Jeffrey Massone and then move on to this most critical book, which is Sigmund Freud and the Jewish Mystical Tradition. I think the combination of those two books are absolutely potent to the Zionist narrative. I truly do. And you'll also start to recognize the psych tactics that they use on us, the gaslighting. That is why they celebrate Sigmund Freud is because he mainstreamed gaslighting people that they harmed.

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That's, that's just a fact. Inescapable fact, as Jeffrey Massone, who was in control of the Sigmund Freud archives points out, and Andrea writes, please help us locate the video of Charlie Kirk's entire answer to the first question that he was asked about Jesus Christ at Utah Valley. I had no luck finding the entire eight to 10 minute clip. Only 20 to 62nd videos come up. It shouldn't be this hard to find. My producer made a note that it, it has made the rounds and that we have it. I think the best way to find that stuff is always on XII really do think that there, there's a lot of people that share those things. So yeah, we will. I don't know how we would get that to you.

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Nicola writes, I hope, I love how so many people in the chat keep complaining about what Canice chooses to talk about or claim that she's grifting, but continue to watch and bump up Candace's views. Yeah, those are our resident Zionist friends. They're here every episode. Say hello to them. Intuition Gen writes, thank you for calling out T-P-U-S-A and holding them accountable. It really stinks. It does. And it won't survive. It won't survive this if they are not forthcoming about what happened, if they're not forthcoming about why they had all of these dramatic changes. Who were the ops that were back home? Who was he on the phone with? There's no way he was holding. Now that I saw the footage all the way of him beyond still on the phone, he does not dial a number. And he's on it for way too long. That's it's, they're lying to us and I don't know why they're lying to us, but you only lie when you have something to hide.

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So what is it that they're hiding from us, Caitlyn? And who are they protecting? Who are they protecting? Actually, Caitlyn Carey writes, thank you for all that you do. What do you think about Jordan Peterson getting sick while in Israel? It's hard for me to believe that someone that was smart wasn't waking up to, I feel spiritually not right that he's been MIA since right before they shot Charlie. I did not know that he got sick while he was in Israel. I don't think if the implication here is that he was shifting viewpoints, Jordan Peterson has been, actually has been a stalwart on the topic of Israel. I've never even seen any daylight, a crack on that topic. And I, for me personally, I found that he, it was, it was unbearable because he was so hypocritical on this particular topic.

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And I don't know, I just, I, I am not a Jordan Peterson fan because I don't think he lived his life in the way that he inspired so many to live theirs. Obviously that aside Complimental, my ideological disagreements with Jordan Peterson, I hope he gets well and yeah, I'd have to look into how he got sick. I, we get very weird answers that don't provide a lot of clarity. So I don't know. I really don't know what's going on with Jordan Peterson. I have no insight there. Noah writes that APAC is going to try and stage a hostile takeover of turning point USA. I think that's already happened actually. And I think it had been happening for a while. And I am looking to get some evidence of that for you guys.

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But I'm hearing some things more is going to come out because we're not gonna let this go. Raven writes, Brandon Briggs said on his last day show to pray for Candace Owens, Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson, bold voices that are exposing darkness. May Jesus Christ of Nazareth protect them all. Thank you so much and do pray. Pray fast. These things work and we are in a time of tremendous revelation that is very clear and it, which Mo makes it that we are in dangerous times. You know, times of tremendous revelation are times when evil becomes more desperate. And I believe that Charlie's murder was because evil became very desperate. And what's really funny, when I say funny, I'm talking dark humor, funny is as, as, as I was recounting this with my team earlier, I said, the problem with what they did is they planned it perfectly right?

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And you should never have perfect behavior. If a situation is organic, that's the problem, right? They planned it perfectly. So this phone call and walking away is actually not what a natural person would do. Knowing what direction to walk into, you'd be all over the place. You'd be freaking out, screaming, running towards the person. It looks like a military operation. Everything that we see looks like a military operation on that day. And that's the problem, right? That's why computers, they never account for the part, the part where there is human behavior. Human behavior is lacking in this circumstance. And that's what makes us all uncomfortable. They want us to forget this.

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They want us to be a DHD about this. They want us to move on and start talking about the Momani race. And we have to be committed to not letting this go because we are getting close every day. We are going to increase the pressure on them. If this happened to me, Charlie would be doing the exact same thing. I know he would be. This is a kind of evil that should scare everyone because the implications are, but if this was in fact a military assassination, then there is for, I mean forget talking about a deep state. We are talking about a kind of evil, which would be so far reaching that even Charlie's own allies at his company and at the White House, some of them would've had to been aware.

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That's the, obviously not all of them, but some of them would, had to have been aware for this to be executed. And we sense that. We sense that in the lack of information that is coming out, the lies that are being told, the covering up of the 12 Israeli cell phones. Because if it really was nothing then it would be nothing. They would share that information instead, CA Patel is frantic and he's angry and he's shouting at people is what I'm hearing. So let's keep on it. Expose the truth, rights, the clip of that mayor debate looks like an SNL skit. Indeed it does. As a conservative leaning libertarian, I don't agree with socialism, but part of me is glad that mom Donny won because it sends a message. It was supposed to be Maga, not miga. Exactly. Right? And when you see that skit, it's kind, it reminds us of early Trump.

0 (1h 2m 48s):
Trump was on stage and they were just hammering everything that he said and he was really funny and he stood by what he believed in and we thought that he was going to disrupt the establishment. And now it looks like he's been swallowed whole by the same swamp that he went down there to clean up. Okay? Whatever the swamp monster is, it's, it's got some claws is what I would say. It's got some claws. And so I feel let down obviously by Trump. But it pales in comparison to how I feel about the entire Trump family. Given everything that Charlie did to get them to where they are, like their, their silence is just something else for me. Like I said, I'm not voting until this gets solved. Don't care if Dana Lash and every NeoCon wants to cry about it.

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My platform will be used to tell people that they should have no faith in the system, zero faith in the system until this gets resolved. Anyways, you guys, if you'd like to support my work, as always, point you to make him a sandwich.com, buy the book, you will really enjoy the wine, especially 'cause we're getting in front of holiday season. I'm also gonna sign some signed copies right as I get off of the air today. So that will be available. Make him a sandwich.com and you can subscribe to our website candace owens.com. It's not the way that you can support us in the work that we do 'cause we are a very small team, an unbelievably small team that makes this happen. This show happen every single day. Buy a t-shirt, buy one of these. Amazing, just dropped. We don't know. No, but we know a stand US cups. And as always, even if you can't do that right now, I'm just appreciative that you guys show up every day and you watch this show.

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We are, we are just tremendously grateful to you guys. So we'll see you tomorrow.

11/4/25

EXCLUSIVE: Kash Patel Dances Around Israelis On 9/10. | Candace Ep 258




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All right you guys, let's jump right back into it, back into the investigation because I have some incredibly interesting updates for you. Actually, some explosive revelations regarding the Charlie Kirk case. Now buckle up because there's this country that's only the size of New Jersey. It's always the victim. It turns out that they had some people on the ground that day. And I just wanna be clear here, no matter what I say throughout this episode, please remember that they are always the victim, historically have always been the victim. And they have done nothing wrong, didn't do nothing wrong on nine 10 either. In other news, the McCoys, let's jump back into their story. 'cause I've learned some crazy interesting data points to add to our timeline.

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You know, I love me a timeline. So let's jump back in. Welcome back to Candace. Do you know that moment when your subconscious kind of meets your conscious? Like you just, suddenly your subconscious is storing all this information and it's maybe flagging something for you that's a little weird, but you haven't come to realize it yet, and then all of a sudden the information breaks the surface and you're like, aha, I got it. I didn't even realize what that thing that happened a long time ago was a little bit weird.

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And suddenly you're behaving like Dory, the blue fish from the movie Finding Nemo when she remembers the p Sherman address from Australia. You guys know that moment. Take a watch.

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Il Chi Sydney

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P Sherman 42 Wall Sydney two, two ne. Yes, yes.

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Crime solved. Okay? That is how it works. Never ignore your subconscious. That's why I say I pay attention to my dreams. I don't care who has to laugh at me about it. And there was this little something that flagged in the back of my mind as odd in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination. One of these things that might seem small, but it's always the small details that helped to paint the broader and bigger picture, right? L Woods in the movie, legally Blonde, she was absolutely correct when she said that people who work out have endorphins and happy people don't kill their husbands. Anyway, the thing that I realized is that Mikey McCoy, the chief of Staff of Turning Point USA, Mikey McCoy, for whatever reason, he always requires an adjective whenever they discuss Mikey McCoy, there's an adjective before they say his name.

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A bunch of people in the Turning Point USA orbit described Mikey McCoy in this very unique manner. I want you to take a listen to that. But

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Let me tell you who the heroes were in this whole thing. We're gonna start with 23, 20 3-year-old Mikey McCoy, and that's when the great Mikey McCoy showed up. And

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My husband's chief of staff, the amazing Mikey

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McCoy, my friend Mikey McCoy, the brilliant 24-year-old who at the time when Charlie was shot was 23 and was a hero that day.

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I used to be known as Charlie Kipa, now known as Mikey McCoy's dad. He

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Clicked into gear eventually he, he did. It was amazing. Mikey. Mikey was a heroic figure on that day.

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Amazing, heroic. He was brilliant. It stood out to me, really, because it's only Mikey that they moved to do it for and objectively speaking, okay, I don't care what your experience in life is, I would not move to insist that someone was quote unquote heroic or walking away from their friend after he was shot. Okay? I just wouldn't, that wouldn't be the adjective that came to my mind, heroic. I also don't feel the need ever to qualify any of my friends with an adjective. Think about how strange it would be if on this show, every time I cover Tucker Carlson, I was like the spectacular Tucker Carlson, the breathtaking Tucker Carlson is under attack in this moment.

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You'd be like, why are you doing that? Why do I feel like you're trying to program me? This only made me more interested in Mikey and the McCoy story, and I wanna be super clear here. No innuendo. I don't think that, I know that Mikey McCoy did not kill Charlie Kirk. We watch him in those moments. But it's also becoming pretty apparent to me that the stage was being set for Mikey to become the new Charlie. In fact, on stage at the memorial event for Charlie and elsewhere, they were trying to prime the public for that plausibility, almost like it was this psychological operation nod to Rob McCoy and his family lineage to see Mikey as capable of filling Charlie's shoes.

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Take a listen.

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Let me tell you something about Mikey. Mikey's been with Charlie for several years. He's 23 years old. He is wise beyond, beyond his years. And when that tragedy struck, Mikey was an absolute hero who kept everybody calm and did some of the most mundane things you would think you would need to do on the worst day of his life. And he continues to be a rock. He's been following Jesus for a long time. I'm hoping that Mikey one day will follow in Charlie's footsteps, right to the college campus because he has the ability, the demeanor, the grace, the knowledge to do so.

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Set an example for the believers in speech and conduct and love in faith and in purity. Our speaker today, Mikey McCoy has done that. His path was pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path,

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Pretty much like Charlie Kirk's path. And he's got the grace and the wits and every, it's amazing, okay? And if you're wondering why we also included Erica saying the amazing Mikey McCoy in her first speech, it's because Rob McCoy oddly refers back to Erica's speech. When he is asked specifically what he believes Mikey's future is going to be at Turning point USA. Okay, he's gonna start, you're gonna see, he's gonna answer a question. The show is Faith, the Faith Forward show. And he starts to answer the question, but then he sort of cuts himself off and he trails into a different topic almost as if he catches himself. Take a listen.

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And then Mikey specifically, like how he's gonna kind of fit into that picture. 'cause when I'm seeing him speak, man, I'm like, dude, this Mikey is going to have a humongous role within this organization.

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So Charlie was an avid journaler. Journaler very avid. And when Erica started opening up his journals after he was killed, she started reading, Charlie had a plan all the way through 2028. Wow. Unreal. Written out, unreal, unreal. Written out. I mean the, there's an order of success succession and, and when, so when she comes out and she says the amazing, I think she said the amazing Mike Mikey McCoy. Mikey McCoy. Yeah. They, and, and this is one of the things I I, I would share with Mikey, I, I'd share with Charlie and I, I learned it from Steve Smotherman and Pastor Steve Smotherman said it to Charlie, in, in, in a where, where you're a public figure, you have very little private privacy.

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That

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Was weird, right? That's a weird way to try to answer that question. What's he doing there? Is he trying to make us believe, but not explicitly state, but kind of explicitly state or maybe implicitly state that Charlie's future or rather Mikey McCoy's future was written by Charlie in one of these journal. That's what I was picking up. That's what I feel like he was throwing down. Let me know if I'm crazy, but that was a weird way to answer. And he's like, so when Erica comes out and she says the amazing Mikey McCoy, he talks about the journals, what's going on here? Now I'm gonna give you some data points to back this up. Now I maintain that the wonderful Mikey McCoy doesn't strike me as intrinsically evil.

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Something Charlie used to always say to me is the eyes are the window to the soul. I don't see this intrinsic evil when I look at Mikey McCoy's eyes, but however, I do think he was hyped, okay? I think Mikey was promised or told or encouraged that he would become the new Charlie. And it is a fact that that was the number one sentiment that we received from our turning point. USA insiders following Charlie's assassination, that the, you know, supercalifragilistic, ISPI, AOSIS, Mikey McCoy appeared to have like an extra spring in his step that made them all a little bit uncomfortable in the aftermath and that he seemed all too happy to assume Charlie's position.

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Look, he's already speaking at Liberty University. Why? Because he made some phone calls that that's, have we lowered the standards for what makes somebody a hero in 2025? I, I don't know. And I will say that beyond the sentiment that was expressed to us from the turning point USA insiders, there are some interesting facts. Fact number one, for whatever reason in the month, and I'm gonna make sure that I address my timeline here in the month leading up to Charlie's death, Mikey McCoy was interested in capturing some behind the scenes footage, more intimate moments of Charlie's life.

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And I'm gonna give you two examples of of that. Okay? Example number one, Charlie's very last overseas trip to Korea. This was four days before he died. For whatever reason, Mikey McCoy felt suddenly inspired to try his luck, micing up Charlie and capturing him on the road. And he says this is the first time he ever did it. Take a listen to Mikey McCoy. Explain that

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Today is really fun because Mikey and Blake are going to talk about their last trip with Charlie to Asia. Yep. And Mikey, you are now in the driver's seat. The floor is

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Yours. Yeah, it's crazy to think that was just three, four days before Utah. Crazy. And we, it was Charlie's dream to always go to Asia and Blake and I got the gift of being able to tag along for that. And so I brought the camera with me. I've never traveled with a camera before, but I decided, you know, it'd be a good idea to mic Charlie up, do some content with him while we're there and

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Okay, that is remarkable. Obviously for the first time he decided to mic. That's not something that somebody does as a chief of staff. It's not something that somebody does in that role, okay? I've traveled with Charlie everywhere, very strange. The person that Mike's is always the AV person, and I would assume there were some AV people that were on hand given the trip. But anyways, that's not it. Okay? That's not just one point that we have. And don't worry because I'm gonna show you after I plotted all this into our timeline. Just a few weeks before Charlie died, Mikey McCoy and his wife Eliza, for the very first time. Now this is according to Eliza McCoy, she shared that it was the first time ever that they went on vacation. Her and Mikey went on vacation with Erica and Charlie.

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Here's that post on Instagram. That second paragraph begins. We spent a few weeks together this summer, our first family trip together, okay? Getting real close there. And while they were on this very first time together for a couple of weeks vacation, something moved the McCoys to capture intimate and sweet moments of the Kirk family from behind the scenes. Now you know which footage I'm talking about. It's the footage that has since gone viral of Charlie walking with his children. And Erica, Erica grabs his hand. It's actually a very sweet moment and it moved. A lot of us people were, I know I was crying when I first saw this footage a couple of days after Charlie died.

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Well, let me tell you guys something. Fortunately the McCoys were the ones that captured that footage. See, my thing is I need to know what moved them to do that is are, are they really just that extraordinary? Is it the extraordinarily lucky Mikey McCoy? Because I was thinking about it because I have a big family and people with families know, and you can go through Charlie's Instagram as I have done. There's always one person missing from intimate family moments when they're on the fly. They're not planned, right? There tends to be one family member missing because one person grabs the camera and you're capturing the kids with dad or you're capturing the kids with mom, or it's just the kids, whatever it is, that's how family footage when it's organic tends to look right.

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And of course on holidays you get together, you stand up, you capture a picture. That is the pattern. If you go through Erica Charlie's Instagram, Charlie's missing or Erica's missing, and that's because they're filming each other. But thankfully the McCoys were on hand in what looks like mid-July or early August into early August. According to my sources, my sources, we will nail down these specific dates in the future. We are working on it. Okay? Strikes me as odd that Mikey is just picking up the camera and capturing these moments. I don't know, I don't know for the first time ever, I don't like it. I don't like it at all. And if I'm in Erica's position, I'm starting to look at him funny, like, what's going on here? Okay, now let's bring in Daddy McCoy wouldn't say he strikes me as something else entirely.

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And he similarly had some rather impeccable timing. Rob McCoy, as you very well know, was the senior pastor of the Gods Speak, Calvary Chapel in Thousand Oaks, California. You should also know, by the way, let me introduce this to you right now because I didn't know that he was funded. His church was funded by the Wilkes Brothers down in Texas. The Wilkes Brothers are the ones that fund Daily Wire were, you know, the initial seed money behind the Daily Wire, the initial seed, not the initial seed money behind PR U, but they majorly fund Prager University as well. So that's an interesting web that's being woven before our eyes, right? You've got Prager U and now you've got this, this church.

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And they are a part of what is described online as a cult. It's like Christians for Jews. I don't, I, you look into it yourself. I, I honestly can't explain it, but that's just something that you should know in the background. Anyway, for whatever reason, after 17 years as the head pastor of that church, Rob McCoy, it was publicly announced in January of this year that he would be stepping down as the head pastor and instead assuming the role of Pastor Emeritus. Now for the Uninitiated Emeritus is basically just an honorific title, right? Bestowed upon someone after they retire from some distinguished position for Rob McCoy.

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They had planned that transition, that transition took effect in mid-July of this year. Okay? mid-July of this year is when he officially steps down from the church lot going on here in McCoy Land. Now, in case you're thinking, well it doesn't mean that he was doing all of that and transitioning because he was anticipating some bigger role at Turning Point USA and maybe therefore planning to wind down his life in California. No, actually that's exactly the reason that was cited when it was reported on in January in the Ventura County star, they wrote quote, he's approaching a transition in July. He'll step down as the senior pastor of God speak and hand the reins to his son-in-law.

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Micah Stevens, the church's administrative and worship Pastor McCoy will become the emeritus pastor and will still preach regularly at the church in a role that could last into the mid seventies. And then it goes on to say, when McCoy's responsibilities grew at Turning Point USA, he and his wife sold their home in Thousand Oaks and bought a home in the Phoenix area. Now he said that he bought a different place in Thousand Oaks. He also owns a home in Coronado near San Diego. Now what we can confirm to you is that Rob actually put that secondary home in Coronado up for sale on August 24th, 2025 of this year.

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He listed his home up for sale. So suffice it to say that the fantastic heroic sensational McCoys were pretty busy this summer. And I don't like it at all. I just don't like it. The vibes for me are not good. Now we can take a look at our timeline here with these new moves added into it. We're gonna start looking at July 11th because that's when I think things reached some sort of a pinnacle. That's the infamous speech that Tucker Carlson gave where he calls out Bill Ackman, he starts talking about Israel, all this stuff and things start moving. Okay, now you can see on that's July 11th and he says that people who serve in foreign armies should be stripped of their citizenship.

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He muses about where Bill Ackman's wealth comes from. July 18th is our next date on our timeline. And this came from, this is a great find from Sam Parker. That is when the turning point USA receives a request from UVU for Charlie to hold an event at Utah Valley. Not only do they instantly accept this request, but they also make it his first stop, which is incredible. We can listen to a news anchor, I think this is from Fox News Salt Lake City. Describe exactly when that request went out. As we're telling you on July 18th, take a listen.

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Utah Valley University has provided the document that created the rally at which conservative activists Charlie Kirk was shot to death, but it is not providing the security plan for that day. I'm Fox 13 investigative reporter Nate Carlisle. We've been asking UVU for records related to the September 10th Kirk rally after about six weeks. This is the first record provided it's the application submitted mid-July by the UVU chapter of Kirk's Turning point USA, the applicant's answer standard questions about time, place and a description of the event. However, we notice there is one question not asked on the form whether organizers need any police protection.

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That's a standard inquiry at for example, university of Utah events. Speaking of police, UVU has denied FOX 13 News's request for a copy of the Kirk rally security plan. The university is citing the provision in state records, laws keeping confidential quote security measures, end quote. The campus also has expressed concern that the records could interfere in any investigation and someone's right to a fair trial. Tyler Robinson is charged with Kirk's murder, Fox 13 plans an appeal of the denial. And we are still pursuing a variety of records related to the Kirk shooting.

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Well, Fox 13 news, if I can be of any assistance, you just reach out to me because I've done a lot of these events and everything happening here is unusual, okay? For them to honor a request. I mean they get every university across all 50 states trying to get Charlie and I to speak, okay? A dis a request going in that late being honored and becoming stop number one within a couple of weeks. I'm gonna say that's never happened. I'm gonna dig through my inbox, okay? I'm gonna dig through my inbox. I'm gonna see what the normal security protocols are because as everybody has noticed, there was no ambulance on standby and that's against Utah law. And so it's interesting that they don't wanna release the security plan because I'm pretty sure this was an extraordinary first time thing where they didn't have a security plan and I had received a tip and I do wanna check this out by the way, that they also had initially slated for this event to be inside, but it was moved.

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I, again, I have to look into that. I'm not confirming that. But if that's true as well, things are about to get very interesting. And guess what guys? There's more. And this part is crazy. I guess it's not really crazy. I think I saw like Milo Gianopoulos tweeted, I think is now I think Israel did it. And that's because he was tweeting about the bizarre lie of them saying, Erica Kirk was accepting this award and they completely fictionalized it. They've just been lying nonstop quickly, right? Right out the gate, BB net and Yahoo doing propaganda rounds denying that he had anything to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Perfectly normal thing to do, right? Perfectly normal. For some reason I didn't feel compelled to do that.

0 (20m 40s):
I didn't feel like I had to get on camera and make a statement that I didn't, Charlie Kirk, but BB net that he to do that, that and all of his sickle fans in America echoed that statement and nobody had accused them a thief runneth when no one pursue with, right? Well, here's some explosive news for you that I can now, beyond a shadow of a doubt, confirm putting my name on this. Not only can I confirm this, but I can publicly challenge the very Zionist occupied Trump administration who is aware of this to deny it, to come out and say, no, that's not true. Okay? And if Cash Patel is done crying about the mean tweets on the internet regarding his sensational singing girlfriend, he can also certainly make the time of day to deny what I am saying if it is untrue, right?

0 (21m 29s):
Because this is pretty relevant. Now I should say that some people had actually reported this earlier. Like Mel, I've been telling you to follow her village, crazy lady over on X. She was actually very early with this reporting and I had heard rumors and rumblings, but I wanted to make sure that I had verifiable proof, enough proof that I would go out on a limb as I'm doing right now and asserting that it is authentic and it is real. Ladies and gentlemen, there were, for whatever reason, 12 Israeli cell phones on the ground at Utah Valley University the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated. This has completely spooked the people that are very high up in government. Now, to be clear, I don't mean that there were 12 VPNs that were switched and routed through Israel on that day.

0 (22m 16s):
I mean that there were 12 personal cell phone accounts that were opened in Israel, okay? Like you go into Verizon in Tennessee or in Connecticut, and you open your phone, I am saying that they opened their phones in Israel, those accounts in Israel, and they were on the ground on September 10th at Utah Valley University when Charlie was shot. Now the NSA knows this. K Patel knows this. People in the current administration know thi know this. And they are desperate for some reason to stop that information from being released to the public. Why? Because they're the most transparent administration ever, is that, why is this like Jeffrey Epstein transparency that we're getting?

0 (23m 1s):
'cause that's what it feels like. It always seems that on the topic of this one nation that's only the size of New Jersey and has done nothing wrong ever and was truly the greatest friend to Charlie, right up until the very end, never put any pressure on him. Suddenly everybody abandoned their values. True friends of Charlie Kirk, right? Standing on that stage, giving him a speech, hiding this. Now, what would be the reason that they wanted to keep that information under wraps? And why does it have people at the very top spooked? If there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to hide, okay? If there's nothing to hide, then there's nothing to hide. Now let's play devil's advocate.

0 (23m 42s):
And to be clear, we are now advocating for the devil when we do this. Maybe the cell phones belonged to some exchange students. It's possible. Maybe 12 Israelis were touring UVU on that day because I don't know, Utah Valley University is a place where they maybe wanted to attend in the future. Maybe 12 American students had Israeli based cell phones because they had just come back from a summer abroad program and they wanted to keep their Israeli cell phones running when they got back home to Utah. I don't know, but I'd like to know.

0 (24m 23s):
In fact, we need to know the answer to this question. Why are they hiding misinformation and why? And who did those 12 Israeli cell phones belong to? Okay, I don't like secrets. I don't like secrets. Especially when they pertain to the public execution of my friend Charlie Kirk. We'll take a break and we'll come right back.

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0 (27m 17s):
So we've got planes from Egypt, cell phones from Israel, and we are getting the runaround from the Trump administration, the runaround from his friends, the people that wanted to just stop asking questions and move on. What does this feel like to you? What does this feel like to you? Sometimes I wish I was born yesterday, right? It was so easy to just accept it and be like, oh yeah, I totally, there just was a lone shooter who you know, had, had never really been hunted, but he got really lucky and he just fired this shot and he got, he never been to the campus, but he somehow knew how to scale the buildings running around like Spider-Man, I wish I was born yesterday so I could just accept that.

0 (27m 58s):
I do. Unfortunately, I wasn't born yesterday. I was actually born 36 years ago and everyone is full of it. I am looking at a situation where Charlie was betrayed and is actively being betrayed every day by the very people that he helped to elect. Every people that are in office, they're betraying him by trying to feed us this nonsense, okay? They are feeding us, they're, they're selling us crap and trying to tell us that it's food, right? Like if this is nourishing or something, I just won't tolerate it, okay? And it is, I think one of the craziest things happening right now that these people are now telling us to shift gears and that it's our duty, right?

0 (28m 42s):
It's our duty to make sure more of them get elected. Now, there are a lot of people running around right now. There are races, important races they tell us going on in the country, consequential races that are happening and people online are being somewhat accusatory upset that Republicans are in fighting. If that's what you're calling this, I'm not fighting with you, okay? I'm gonna see this thing all the way through. And that we're instead focused on using our platforms to fight one another rather than to encourage people to go vote so that Republicans can stay in power across various cities. You know, as just one example, of course people really cannot stop speaking about the mom, Donny versus the Cuomo mayoral race in New York.

0 (29m 25s):
Now Cuomo's already one of the most corrupt families in New York and now they're like, no switch gears. 'cause Mom Donny is gonna be worse. And it's your job as a good little Republican, okay? To go out there and to make sure that mom Donny doesn't win. And to those very many people, I would like to say, no, I am good actually, I'm just not interested. I'm interested in nothing until you start telling the truth about what happened in Charlie Kirk. Until you acknowledge that a 30 odd six did not go through his neck, did not get stopped rather by his neck. Until you acknowledge that that story that you tried to sell is this complete BS something that could take down a moose somehow did not take down Charlie Kirk, are you kidding me?

0 (30m 11s):
Are you absolutely kidding me? I'm not interested in your races around the country. I'm not voting until this is resolved, okay? This is toxic. You are toxic and it is unbelievably abusive to suggest that I have to now reinvest and work for the exact same party that told me that if I voted for them and got the word out for them and I did do all of those things, that things would be different. Corruption's gonna stop. We're gonna be the most transparent thing administration that you've ever seen except on those Epstein files. Yeah, I know he was like abusing children, but what Epstein files were we even talking about?

0 (30m 52s):
No, no thank you. No, nope. Goodbye. Not doing it anymore. You're left versus right. Don't care anymore. There is power and there is the rest of us. There is power and there is the rest of us. And you are not going to convince me that any of this stuff is consequential after I just watched Charlie Kirk catch a bullet in his throat and and watching all of you lie about it, okay? There's actually this vintage clip from TRL, remember total request live with Carson Daley. That perfectly embodies me and how I am feeling in this moment. So let's watch that vintage clip together.

12 (31m 34s):
Hi, my name is Meda and I live in Florida being a young black female and a also a teen mother. What do you guys do to get back, give back to the community. Also directed mostly towards ODD. I know PRS and the Fujis do things for the community, but what do you, what is gonna be your thing for the community?

13 (31m 57s):
Nothing.

14 (32m 6s):
Don't get, don't get me

13 (32m 10s):
Wrong now don't get me wrong. Send you love

0 (32m 15s):
To the Republicans. I send you love, okay? Don't get me wrong, I send you love. But what I'll be doing for the broader community until you start telling the truth is nothing. Nothing. So don't even, don't don't at me. I just don't care at all. Not even a little bit. Anyway, two of the, like three people that I still like that are within the realm of politics got together. Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith. I kinda wanna qualify Tucker Carlson, I feel like I wanna say the stupendous Tucker Carlson joined Dave Smith on his show to respond to all of this Zionist backlash that he was receiving for having a conversation with Nick Fuentes.

0 (32m 55s):
And foremost Tucker explains why he had the conversation with Nick Fuentes. Take a listen.

15 (33m 2s):
I didn't make Nick Fuentes hardly. I just wanna know what this is about. And I wanted to make the point that I often make and now seems even more important than it ever has, which is that virtue and sin are not transmitted genetically, right? There is no such thing as blood guilt. Therefore collective punishment is always immoral. God created each person individually. He did not create communities that once he created people and all of us will die and in the end face God alone. So it's about the person and people can be changed by God, by the way. And the New Testament is that story of people who were in the case of the whole hero of the New Testament.

15 (33m 42s):
The human hero was a guy called Paul, was murdering Christians as a pharisee and then becomes the greatest proselytized in the history of Christianity and my personal hero. So like don't tell me that people can't be changed because of their blood. Now that is the basis, that position is the basis of western civilization. We often talk about Western civilization and we're all defending Western civil Israel's defending western civilization. Israel does not have a western position on this question. Yeah, the Israeli position, not of all Israelis by the way, and certainly not of all Jews, but I'm saying of the Israeli government and of a couple of its ministers, which they say this out loud all the time, is that everybody who's related to a terrorist shares in his guilt, that's collective punishment.

15 (34m 23s):
It is blood guilt and it's antithetical to Christianity and to the West. And so for me, and by the way, Israel's not the only country that does this. Most countries do this literally, most countries do this, all of Asia, India. This is like an intuitive response that people have.

0 (34m 38s):
Okay? So that I actually introduced that wrong, that's er just giving the broader theological, delivering the broader theological point, which is important that people have the capacity to change. And actually we're kind of in this weird psychosis as a society. And I would say that this is kind of one of the things they're trying to deliver to us is that some people are just deplorable. Like everything about them is just so deplorable and we have to throw them away. And that's what creates these sort of movements. So people are just tired of it. They're just tired of this. This is not the way that Christians think. Actually, we very much don't live in a Christian society because we live in a Christian Zionist society. And Christian Zionism is a, it's a paradox, okay? It's, there's no such thing as Christian Zionism because Zion Zionism is all about identity, right?

0 (35m 22s):
It's all about identity. Because I am a Jew, I therefore have a right to this land because they are Jews and I'm a Christian. I recognize that I'm gonna get into heaven if I just worship how BB net and Yahoo, even if when he kills tens of thousands of kids, that is a political ideology. It is not a religion and it is dangerous and it's wrong. And it is, it is backwards and it is of course antithetical to the Bible. Now Tucker then explains specifically why he chose to have a conversation with Nick Fuentes, take a listen.

15 (35m 54s):
You should be forgiving. Always things are being said right now that almost seem like they can't be forgiven. They're so, their, their expectations to violence, clearly they are, et cetera, et cetera. Slander of a kind that's so severe. Like how do you get past that? I think we should force ourselves. I interviewed Nick Fuentes to attack my wife and my son and my dad can, my dad and I interviewed him Anyway, I choked it back and I thought to myself, I'm just, I want to hear this and I'm just gonna make we, I try to make myself do that. So if tomorrow John put Hartz is like, or whomever I'm mad at, right? People I used to know are calling me a Nazi is like, you know what? I don't, I don't think he's actually a Nazi. Like let's have a real conversation. Let's do the best for America.

15 (36m 35s):
They should all be accepted. I don't think we should have permanent enemies who are American citizens. I don't. 'cause I think the whole idea of it is we're united by citizenship, our common Americanness, everybody's welcome. Even if we hated each other 20 minutes ago. And Glen Greenwald, I mean I hated Glenn Greenwald. Now I think he was one of my favorite people in the world, not just monthly, but personally. Like forgiveness is essential. People change. Allow for that. Don't draw permanent lines in the sand where it's like, I hate you and I will hate your son too. Like that's non-Western thinking. We don't allow that.

0 (37m 12s):
I wanted to really consider you listen to Tucker's perspectives and what's guiding his perspectives and then go backwards and listen to like Mark Levin and these people that get on their platforms and call him irredeemable. And you realize there's a different spirit moving within these in, within these groups, right? And he is what Christianity is, right? It's about forgiveness. It's about when you're angry, not assuming that there's some like blood oath that you need to honor, but saying, you know what, Nick Fuentes has something crappy things about me and I'm gonna speak to him. I did the same thing. I was like the bigger person hosted him and he was by the way, still a jerk. But this idea that he shouldn't have a platform, he shouldn't be allowed to speak, he shouldn't be allowed to think, he shouldn't be allowed to breathe.

0 (37m 53s):
What is that from? What is your faith? Don't you? You're definitely not gonna convince me that that's the first five books in the Bible. Okay? I know what your faith is, it's Zionism. Okay? You guys behave like gangsters. You behave like you are only loyal to one another and you'll come beat up any person, figuratively, you'll take care of any person that gets in your way and the world can see that now. So what's your next move? Just keep doing this to just keep behaving like this. And just know that every act that you make, every show everything that you make, go viral with you speaking in the way that you speak. And then people get to hear Tucker, he gets bigger and you get smaller. Okay? He gets bigger. Our ideas get bigger.

0 (38m 33s):
Your ideas get smaller because people can perceive the nastiness that's guiding it and they want nothing to do with it. Okay? Now I am gonna take a brief break because I know that you guys have a lot of comments and we also have book club tonight and we're gonna get deeper by the way, into that sort of guiding theology when we get back into the Sigmund Freud book because it really, really connects dots for you, right? What that guiding philosophy comes from is actually a psychology. It is a psychology and he's the father of it, as they call him the father of modern psychology. And so really stepping back into time and understanding what was happening at the turn of the 19th century across Europe, why so many speech laws have been passed in Europe, kind of Christians in the way that we're doing right now, waking up and going, what is the guiding philosophy of these people that seem like they hate us?

0 (39m 23s):
Like they're trying to, to Abu Like what, what have we done wrong to be treated like this? This book is really an aha moment and I'm excited for the book club. I'm like, I'm excited and I understand why Zionist infiltrated it, but we're not going to stop. But first let's let's get to a couple of sponsors, then I'm gonna answer some of your comments.

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0 (41m 51s):
Alright, top comment from yesterday. I'm gonna start pulling the top comment that makes me chuckle. There were a couple of them yesterday, but this one we regarding k Patel's tweets colleague, his girlfriend, a sensational country singer. It was so weird, this user wrote, Cheryl writes, after hearing k Patel's tweet, I'm 90% sure he's the one that wrote Tyler's message to his furry lover. Absolutely, you are correct. It's now a fact. It's now a fact. Just kidding. But I loved that comment. All right, comment from today's episode. Laughing Katz. Music World writes, I keep thinking about George Zinn. I know he was a habitual Salt Lake City event disruptor, but what are the chances his reflex is to take the blame?

0 (42m 32s):
Voluntarily? Voluntarily. I guess it's possible, but wow. Crazy split decision to make. Right? Not even a hesitation. I I told you guys that we had a sore leak to us. He went to the hospital, he went to Utah Valley Hospital after this event to treat some of his, like mild injuries from being dragged. And he told people that he was told to do it and he was paid to do it and, but he didn't know where the payment was coming from. So yeah, this was, this entire thing was just an operation. Like I said, Brandon Hansen writes, been a lifelong Israel supporter recently. I've come to not like Bebe, but I still love the land where the Lord was born, a Zionist who dislikes Netanyahu. Curious how you feel about that love from Maine. It at least makes me happy to hear you acknowledge that there's a demon.

0 (43m 16s):
I don't, it's, it's the strangest thing to me when these people are treating Bibb Netanyahu like he is their Christ. And that is what makes it a disgusting heresy, right? Like it's just to, to misinterpret the Bible so much that you're basically platforming and honoring what Bibi Netanyahu does. Avoiding the topic, not acknowledging that what he's doing to the Palestinians is wrong. Having love for Jerusalem that makes sense. Having love for, to, to be able to walk in Jerusalem and to see the relics. That all makes sense to me. And I think I'm just more disgusted by people who turn a blind eye to everything that's happened to the Palestinians. It just makes me sick. And to see him on camera acting like such a gangster and that, and people pretending that he's holy whether's ever, even a, a shred of documented proof that these people are the original people from the Holy Land is crazy.

0 (44m 7s):
There's way more proof to the contrary, which they stopped printing even their own textbooks, which they've stopped printing that point to the fact that they came from Turkey, the Turkic Ashkenaz tribe that came down, began speaking Yiddish and then needed a place to go after World War ii. It it, it's crazy to me. The whole thing's crazy. Again, I would debate anybody on that topic, definitely feeling especially fired up about it. A Smoky Mountain. Katie writes, always trust your gut. Our brain takes in far more information than we are aware of. I love your show and all that you do. Thank you so much. Beck Build writes. So glad Charlie had you on another topic. Dinosaurs, hundreds of Bible believing PhD scientists have evidence that dinosaurs are real killed during the global flood of Genesis.

0 (44m 50s):
The Institute for Creation research answers in Genesis and Creation. Okay guys, I'm sorry. Nope, sorry. And this is gonna get, I bet you the people that are going through my book club. By the end of this, you're gonna see that there was a conscious movement, as I said at the, at the turn of the century, same time they started going, oh, we found Dinosaur Bone two. And then you get into like the research of you come from an o Australopithecus and they describe this as like, oh, suddenly science was peaking. And actually what was happening is they wanted to make people invest in scientism. That's a CS Lewis perspective. He writes about that in one of his books where they wanted to turn science into God.

0 (45m 31s):
And as long as they say there's an expert, there's research experts say that people would fall into line. And that's what we see happening. So I can't do a deep dive on the dinosaur thing right now, but the book club, we're gonna go there eventually. And I just can, I don't know, I just, I see a bigger picture, a broader picture now removing the Bibles from classrooms teaching people that they're homo sapiens and they started walking straight, but also the monkeys are still here. It was very methodical and yeah, broader conversation to have. I can't wait for that clip to go viral, by the way. Like I care, like I also don't believe the moon landings happened. So you can cut that clip because they didn't happen. That's crazy. More scientism.

0 (46m 11s):
Anyways. Smokey. I'm sorry. Christine writes, loyalty is rare. Christ is king. Indeed he is. Beth Mitchum writes, so we give Israel billions. People who support Israel give APAC money to give our government to give to our government to vote the way Israel wants. So my tax money pays for Israeli ideas. We pay Congress twice. Can you say money laundering? Yeah. That's what it feels like for sure. We give our tax dollars, they go overseas and then they yell at us for paying attention to what they're doing overseas and then call us anti-Semitic. This is like the worst deal ever. And I'd like that deal to be undone and it certainly isn't gonna be undone in this administration. That's for sure. Jennifer k Wrights just asked GR if Israel and Egypt coordinate on intelligence ops.

0 (46m 55s):
It says yes, calling their cooperation unprecedented since the 1979 Peace treaty Intel chiefs have met often share real-time data. Honestly, few countries make more sense working together. Yeah, country A that gets most of our money is Israel. B is Egypt and there is a reason for that. It's so, it doesn't look like it's all going to Israel. That's my perspective. Darth Phantom writes, citizens have, and I would say since the 1967 war, do you think that they would let Israel control the snip peninsula? Anyways, more on that later. Darth Phantom writes, citizens have always paid taxes to finally be able to retire. And the thanks that we get for this is they raise the age on us to retire and we all obey like idiots.

0 (47m 37s):
Am I the only one angered about this? Yeah, it's all coming apart. We're realizing it's all one big scam. It's all usy and it is a sin. And everything that's happening into our, in our country, our culture, the corrosion, I think it's because America has married to Zionism. Like I, I truly do believe that. And I think a lot of people are waking up to that. We were a better country when we were a Christian nation. We are no longer a Christian nation. We are an occupied nation with an ideology that has produced filth in our culture. Miranda Wrights High Candace. I'm 23 and I should be clear, a political ideology dressed up as a religion and a faith. Miranda writes Candace, I'm 23 and newly married. We just found out that I'm pregnant. Congratulations. I'm nervous, but I know children are God's blessing.

0 (48m 18s):
Do you have any advice for me as a young mother? Is it okay to be nervous? My advice would be not to take advice. It is going to be the most natural job that you have. You are gonna just know what to do when you see the baby, and it will make you a better person because you'll be so tapped into God's creation. You will realize that there is something more. It is one of the sins in the culture that kind of trained us to have children later, is that we don't tap into our divine purpose. And children immediately have you tap into your divine purpose. You feel more wholesome, more confident. I became a more confident person when I had children because I suddenly realized what matters and what doesn't matter. And that's why I fight like hell for truth, because it matters, right?

0 (48m 59s):
My investment is that I have children and my silence is essentially cowardice. That would gar guarantee that their future would be compromised, could be more compromised than our lives are right now. Right now. Lastly, real Lightworker writes, have you looked into events going on at UVU that day? A college student posted an FB real of her experience. She ran into a building where the room was filled with uniformed people and a bunch of different flags. Who were they? That's the hall of flags that's behind Charlie's head. And I do find something suspicious was going on there. I've never gotten clarity, but that's where notoriously the person who filmed the footage, the only footage that we have of, of the person running across who they say is the shooter running across the Lowey Center.

0 (49m 45s):
So yeah, look, we are investigating every day with more information. Tomorrow we will have more explosive information and revelations about the Egyptian plane, which so interesting. Speaking of the unique relationship between Egypt and Israel, TikTok is hitting us for videos, talking about the Egyptian planes. That's very strange. Israel's moderator served in the IDF, we know and they, Bebe wants TikTok secured for Israel's future. Why do they care about Egyptian planes that were there? It's kind of coming together. There's a picture here that's coming together. Anyways, you guys, we have to jump off because we do have book club tonight, so we'll see you guys in the Zionist infiltration on our book club.

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We finally did it, guys. We went viral and they're stealing clips from behind the paywall. If you guys would like to support our work, you know you can go to candace owens.com. You can go to make him a sandwich.com to buy the book. You'll really enjoy this book. It's really important, especially for women to understand where these feminist ideals came from and beyond that. We will see you guys tomorrow.

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All right, you guys. Happy Monday. MAGA Civil War. At least that's what they are trying to brand it as they say, that's what's going on. But really we all know it's more like never Trumpers have now infiltrated the MAGA movement and they're trying to dictate the terms like we didn't notice randomly. Ben Shapiro apparently woke up this morning and chose violence. He, he put me in his anti Tucker Montage monologue. We'll see what he had to say in a little bit. And it just so happens to be exactly what every Zionist has had to say in the last 24 to 48 hours, almost as though it's scripted. In other news, Erica Kirk sat down with Jesse Waters. Now the full interview has not yet aired, but it's already going viral.

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Just a preview clip of it and we're gonna discuss it. And lastly, K Patel is now officially the most embarrassing human being in the United States. Welcome back to Candace. So obviously a major theme of this podcast is that everything truly is fake and gay. And people that listen to this podcast have already accepted that. The question really is just now how fake are we talking? What shade of gayness are we talking?

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And I think we should start with the Lindsey Graham Shade, which he threw at American voters. So what happened was he was on stage at the Republican Jewish Coalition, okay? He and many others, by the way, many other treasonous congressmen basically directed their fire and their anger toward Americans letting us know basically, not even, basically, literally telling us that if you do not support Israel, a foreign nation, then you're not even allowed to be a Republican anymore. Take a listen to Lindsey Graham in his own words.

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I want the world to know antisemitism, anti-Israel rhetoric, anti-Israel thought is not the road to being elected as a Republican. You'll lose.

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You can't even have an anti-Israel thought. So if you're thinking like, Hmm, I don't know, killing tens of thousands of children is not good. Whew. Well guess what? It ain't the road to the Republican party. Really great messaging senator. And he obviously was not the only one because we know how these things go. He was joined on stage by many others, including the very genocidal, Randy, fine, Randy Fine. Just to be clear, he has been so disgusting in his rhetoric towards Palestinians saying essentially that they're just not even truly humans. That even APAC had to drop 'em. That's, that's saying a lot. If APAC was like, you went a little too far for even us irrespective of this, Randy decided that he, I guess is the arbiter of the new cool Kids club.

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Like, you know, we should all wanna sit with them, support Israel, or you can't sit with us, can't sit with me Randy, fine, Lindsey Graham. And to show us just how hip and motivated and relevant they are. They sent some poor interns. It looks like they sent some poor interns down to FedEx or Kinko's or UPS to print out these totally organic red signs and the signs red. I don't know how he's gonna get over this. So Tucker, if you need to take a couple of days off, we get it. But the sign said Tucker Carlson is not maga. There's something about it that's so dorky sick burn.

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Tucker Carlson is not maga. And it, it sounds so inauthentic that you know, it didn't come from anybody that was originally maga. This is like when homeboy, who was the guy in Jesse, Jesse s Mullet went out and he was like, they said to me, this is MAGA country. And we were like, nobody in MAGA says this is MAGA country. No one in MAGA would say, Tucker Carlston is not maga. It's just a strange, it's a very strange thing to say. It's very dorky. And they said it, they did it. And beyond that, besides printing out these little red posters, they gave those posters to some young men. I'm sure they're very nice young men and they instructed them to wave the posters on stage while Randy fine of all people spoke like he was the Spice Girls going back on stage.

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Tucker Carlson is not maga, you go Randy fine. And Randy fine was getting them all fired up and he said the usual thing Tucker Carlson is basically akin to, you're gonna be shocked. You guessed it. Adolf Hitler so original. Take it away, Randy. Fine.

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But make no mistake, today Tucker Carlson is the most dangerous anti-Semite in America. Ooh,

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Dangerous.

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He has chosen, he has chosen to take on, take on the mantle of leader of a modern day Hitler youth to broadcast and feature those who celebrate the Nazis, those who call for the extermination of Israel to defend Hamas, to even criticize President Trump for stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions. Friends, make no mistake, Tucker is not maga.

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It is so over for Tucker Carlson. I mean he just, he must be shaking. I'm literally shaking right now, shaking, just shaking, listening to it. It's just over. They, they have declared war on Tucker Carlson, which they happen to do every week obviously. And they all say the same thing, which shows how inorganic it is. It's like Operation Mocking Pastor. And it was very clear that they were instructed to go after Tucker more than anyone else. We know that Zionists cannot stand Tucker Carlson. And the real reason that they hate him is because he's very well liked now by both sides. And he also happens to not be controlled. You can always tell who they control because they don't condemn them even when they like Randy, fine, just come right out with genocidal language against the Palestinians referring to them as subhuman laughing when he sees a dead body of a Palestinian, they don't care.

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They support it, they cover it up. But Tucker Carlson, oh no, he's having conversations with people that they don't like. It's that simple as to why they go after him. That's also why they fired him from Fox because he was speaking out against the Ukrainian war and that was not allowed. They thought that firing him would effectively ruin him and he wouldn't be able to secure another big contract within the apparatus that they very much control. And it turns out Tucker Carlson actually got even bigger and he became even more well liked and they want justice for that. And the way that they're going about it right now though is especially sickening. They're now trying to roll Charlie Kirk's legacy into this.

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We all know as I proved that these same individuals were squeezing Charlie Kirk leading up to the end of his life. They wanted, again, Tucker Carlston to be gone, no longer allowed on the turning point USA stage because Tucker is the natural heir to the populist movement and they want him to be canceled. Only people that they con control are allowed to be in positions of power. So recently Tucker interviewed Nick Fuentes. The reason he did that I've heard is because it happens to be a free country and it's his platform and he can speak to whoever the hell he wants in the world. Of course, with Zionists, the very same ones who were causing Charlie Kirk, all of that grief in the final days and hours leading up to his assassination, the very same ones that Charlie thought were going to kill him, they've now decided to be Smirch Charlie's name by asserting that Tucker interviewing Nick Fuentes is a betrayal to Charlie.

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He's no longer Charlie's friend. They've decided posthumously that Tucker Carlson was a bad friend to Charlie Kirk. And do you know who can actually debunk that pretty easily? Yours truly. I got you guys. Okay. And it's just a little bit of common sense. Before Charlie died, really kind of just before he died in July, I interviewed Nick Fuentes and Charlie and I discussed the interview and never once did he tell me not to speech Nick Fuentes. Never once did he consider it an act of betrayal to the contrary, I had a very long discussion with him. I also had a long discussion with Andrew Covet separately telling them both that Charlie should host Nick Fuentes on his show and debate him.

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I tried to make that happen. You guys will recall this. Andrew Cobe can confirm and everything that I am saying is true. Oh, it's such an act of betrayal to speak to Nick Fuentes. Never at any point did Charlie say, don't do that. 'cause that's ridiculous. It's not who he was. But the truth obviously is never what Zionists are concerned with. They want Charlie's legacy by any means necessary. They want people to believe that his legacy belongs to Israel somehow. And the harder that they work to lie about his legacy, the more the world wakes up to the truth about it. They, they are waking up to the truth about how Charlie really felt. It's just becoming too obvious. Anyway, let's get to Ben Shapiro, okay? Because on his show today, he took a very, dare I say scripted stab at Tucker Carlson.

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Same talking points. Tucker Carlson has betrayed Charlie Kirk by hosting Nick Fuentes and for absolutely no reason at all, I caught a stray bullet, which tends to happen for whatever reason. They get mad at Tucker Carlson, they attack me, they get mad at me, they kind of punch me, Kelly. Now, I don't know what Meg Kelly has done wrong, but she's done wrong is what they say. And he, I'll just say, listen to what he has to say. This is Ben Shapiro, straight from a teleprompter.

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Tucker Carlson you see is a coward. And here is where his relationship with Nick Fuentes begins with Nick Fuentes correctly pointing out that Tucker Carlson is a coward. You see, Tucker Carlson a few weeks back had on Candace Owens to treat her to his usual ideological laundering services. That's after years of Candace Owens saying things like this.

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And it is the case that dinosaur bones, for whatever reason are always just found by the paleontologist. Like it's not like you and me walking outside. I'm like, hey, a dinosaur bone and or by somebody who's related to a paleontologist. It's, it's very strange. And then, but it was just convenient for Israel that JFK got shot. It was just convenient, you guys. Totally convenient. It was convenient for Israel, by the way, when the towers went down. I just wanna be clear, anything happens to me. Blame the Zionists, like 1000% blame the Zionists. Like let that be my, my partying work. I'm waking people up to the fact that pedophiles are in power. Yes, they're literally in power. And true that is intentional because then they can be controlled while they are in power and they are also exhibiting signs of a psychopathology pathology that lets them know that they will do harm to the masses and feel nothing because they were themselves, many of them raped when they were children.

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Yeah. Is not a coincidence that Justin Trudeau is gay at Obama. Gay zelensky, gay Emmanuel Macron gay and married to a trans man who molested him when he was a child. I mean, fact check. All true. I gotta watch that girl's show. Lovely. It sounds amazing. I take nothing back. But you catch the vibe here. The vibe here is that Tucker Carlson is criminally laing ideas through his beyond the pale guests. And Ben is using the preferred strategy of out of context clips to paint a picture of my perspectives, which I stand by. Yeah, dinosaur bones are by and large always found by the experts. You can look it up yourself and yes, if I wind up dead in mysterious circumstances, you should obviously assume it was orchestrated by Zionists duh and lengthier eclipse, which he didn't show.

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I have asserted that this entire American culture, which has grown quite perverse, it's a culture of vices that we are suffering from today. A culture that is filled with pornography, gambling, transgenderism, radical feminism, modern psychology, pharmaceuticals. If you research these topics historically you will recognize that they were brought to and fought by, fought for on our shores by people like Emma Goldman on feminism. Sigmund Freud, the father of modern psychology. The gambling empire is where the Adelson Empire wealth comes from.

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As are many pharmaceuticals like the Sackler family. These people have their, had their names on buildings in Tel Aviv, the owners of Purdue Pharma, the architects of the opioid epidemic pornography, our boy Al Goldstein took happy credit for that, right? He's the one who notoriously said, the only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism. Pornography becomes a way of defiling Christian culture as it penetrates the very heart of the American mainstream. By the way, how Goldstein was right? That actually has happened. And pornography, if you're wondering, is somehow considered how it became somehow considered free speech.

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That's because Jewish individuals in America fought for that. Samuel Roth, actually that's his name, fought for that decision in court Transgenderism, go back and and try to figure out where that came from. Magnus Hirschfeld was the doctor and the sexologist. So these are the facts, and the facts don't really care about your feelings, so please keep me in context. There's a lot of people can learn from me. All that aside, I have to say that I was quite stunned that he found within himself, Ben, the audacity to present this attack on Tucker as a noble defense of Charlie. Here's what Ben said in his own words.

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There's no question that Tucker has become the most virulent super spreader of vile ideas in America. And the rest of us who oppose those vile ideas have every right to call him that. There's one other element here that's even darker if possible. Tucker Carlson prays on the friendship, he proclaims with others and then he knife them directly between the shoulder blades when convenient for him. Tucker Carlson is in short, a terrible friend. Tucker Carlson was supposedly Charlie Kirk's friend. Charlie believed that Nick Fuentes was vermin. That's a direct quote. He believed that because Nick Fuentes dedicated his life to destroying Charlie Kirk and T-P-U-S-A from the inside.

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So first and foremost, the idea that in order for you to show that you are a good friend of somebody, you have to agree not to host people on your platform from conversations is, is just so anti Charlie. It's unbelievable. It's, it's just, it is disrespectful really to his legacy. And it is simply a fact, which I feel comfortable sharing now that Charlie and Ben Shapiro did not get along because Charlie found out that Ben was operating behind the scenes to stop him and sort of hinder the growth of turning Point USA in our early days, right? When things, when we were kind of coming up together, me and Charlie as partners getting out there, and I have only about 80 to 150 text messages from Charlie to that effect.

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This is not a debate, by the way. This is a fact. So challenging me to share the messages I, I will gladly now, when Charlie tried to figure out where the sudden hostility was coming from, because he at first admired Ben, like I admired Ben, actually Charlie was the one that told me, you should watch Ben debate videos so you can strengthen your debate skills. The next thing we knew, we were hearing that he was trying to block us and they had a co a conversation. Ben told Charlie, again, this is according to my messages with Charlie, that Ben was in part upset because I made a joke about him, A literal lighthearted joke when I appeared on Joe Rogan back in 2018. Do we have that clip Skylar?

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We can roll that. Like I can't take anything seriously anymore. So, well,

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There's things to be taken seriously, but celebrities, it's hard. Probably aren't on that list. Yeah,

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It's hard. Which is

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Hard. So Ben Shapiro's, right?

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Yeah, no, well he's right about thi this is, you know, but he was like trying to correlate like what Kim did, like with Alice Marie Johnson with like that, and I'm like, come on man, that's like totally different and just in general, like sometimes he just gets a little like hall monitor for me. Like, you know, like it's just like, you know,

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Well he can't help himself. I know he just, he he's a funny guy. Yeah, he's he's very snarky. Yeah, I like him a lot.

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I like him too. That's the thing, it's like people we actually really get along, but like the, the hall monitor, I know these types in school, like I was in their classes, you know, they're just like, they're like late to school, right? Like the last person you wanna see is like the hall monitor, like, you know, like where like the idea like that she would be late, right? Yeah. Like he's writing you a pink slip. It's like, Ben, just gimme the pink slip dude. You know, like just give it to me Ben. All right. Like right, like you know, this is a gateway to Saturday school. Like it's just like that's

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A good impression of him.

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Lighthearted joke. But specifically Ben said to Charlie that he was upset about that and that he, I Candace was going to Milo my career if Charlie didn't get away from me. Now obviously the story goes, Charlie stuck with me despite Ben's urging, we kept climbing, we reached a point where as a team, Charlie and I were suddenly undeniable. Some producer in June of 2018 then reached out to us to book us on Ben's show. And honestly, I'm so glad they did this because in retrospect, it's actually one of my favorite Charlie memories because it just makes me smile to reflect on because Charlie, he was never mean spirited. He always was just funny. He always chose humor, lighthearted humor to get over any situation. He was never a person that wield and dealed behind the scenes to prevent other people from becoming successful.

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It just wasn't in him, right? He wasn't vengeful vengeance is actually kind of the vice that I have had to work on a lot. But Charlie's perspective was just laugh and move on. Anyway, the story goes, we get the invite to be on Ben Shapiro show and I'm like, no F that. He was so awful to us. He said this about me, Milo, my career, we should not do his show. Why would we do his show? And Charlie's like, no, it's great. Let's do it. Because we won. Okay, we won Candace. And I'm like, okay, fine. We get to the location, I think it was in Sherman Oaks, California at that time. And Charlie says to me, we're in the green green room. Hey, when we take a photo with him, I'm gonna puff my chest out and stand extra tall.

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So we never forget this moment of us having triumphed over Ben Shapiro and he actually does it. And it was completely hilarious. And this is actually the photo from that. Charlie did that totally on purpose. It was such a Charlie Kirk thing to do and it became like our perfect inside joke every time we felt like he was kind of saying little things about us. And that was Charlie. That was just the spirit of Charlie and we, he moved on from it. He was always cordial beyond that. He never felt any nastiness. The point of me sharing this though is to make it very clear that Charlie loved Tucker. I can go through all my message, all my messages with Charlie and he loved Tucker, not for a single second did he not admire and respect and greatly appreciate Tucker.

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And he fought for Tucker to be on the turning point stage until his dying day literally. Charlie was not in love with Ben Shapiro. He didn't hate Ben Shapiro. He just, I would say experienced Ben Shapiro. We all get the Ben Shapiro experience at some point despite this, he always, as I said, kept it cordial because that's who he was as a person. But what I will not allow is this absolute inversion of reality where Ben Shapiro becomes any sort of voice on who is and who is not betraying their friendship with Charlie. I will not allow it. Like I said, everybody has a vice and when I reflect on Charlie's, it is probably that he associated success and growth with money.

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And I believe that that is probably the conduit for the snakes that I, that got into his company, got into the donor base, whatever it is, me, I don't suffer from that vice. I don't care about money. I would gladly, as you have seen me do, burn it all to the ground to get out one modicum of truth. And if you'd like to hear something else that happens to be true in the immediate aftermath of Charlie's death, people that were extremely close to Charlie, including donors were very touched by a monologue that Matt Walsh did over on the Daily Wire. I didn't see it, I was too aggrieve to watch anything, but apparently Matt Walsh had an amazing monologue.

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So the team reached out to host Matt Walsh to ask Matt Walsh rather to host Charlie Kirk show 'cause they wanted to keep it going. And they were told that that was not allowed to happen unless Ben Shapiro was also invited. And in the true spirit of Charlie Kirk Turning Point, cordially accepted those Posthumus terms. Anyways, those are the facts. Turning my attention to another matter. Israel is rather obsessed with this already failed operation to stage a hostile takeover of the legacy of Charlie Kirk. So obsessed that the Jerusalem Post completely fictionalized or rather published a completely deranged lie about Erica Kirk.

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Here is the statement that was issued by the Israeli war room account over on Twitter and they were citing the actual reporting from the Jerusalem Post, which was written by journalist Michael Starr. They published this Charlie Kirk, the founder of T-P-U-S-A, will be posthumously honored at Israel's 2025 Christian Media Summit in recognition of his courageous stand for truth and his steadfast support of Israel. Michael Starr reports Miss Erica, Mrs. Erica Kirk will accept the award on her husband's behalf. A moving tribute to a man who inspired millions to stand with Israel when it mattered most the pillars of Jerusalem Award inspired by the verse teaching that the world stands upon justice, truth and peace will also be presented by Douglas Murray, Yale, Eck Epstein, and Dr.

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Jergen Bueller. So obviously the internet was like, this is crazy if this is true and internet including me, I was like, this is actually insane. If this is true, steadfast, supportive Israel, this is just a lie. And you know how I feel about lies. Fortunately, Andrew Colette, the spokesperson for Turning Point USA, instantly came out and slapped down the rumor. Andrew wrote this, this is the first we're hearing of this. We've reached out to the reporter at the Jerusalem Post for a correction. How do you just say, Erica Kirk is going to accept this word on behalf of her husband because of his steadfast support for Israel. That's not like a, a casual error, is it? Well the journalist replied and here is what he had to say.

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Michael Starr said this on X. He said the Israeli government press office wavered on claims that Erica Kirk would be accepting by video call a posthumous award on behalf of Charlie Kirk after turning point USA said that it was not aware of the award and its CEO was not scheduled to participate. And he is calling that wavering. I'm calling that Israel's got Israel. They just lie. They tell audacious lies and when they get caught they then gaslight and pretend that they didn't get caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Right? And it's just getting ridiculous. It's, it is so ridiculous to watch them continue to lie about where Charlie Kirk was at in his mind, at the end of his life, you're not getting away with it.

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The people don't believe you. It doesn't matter how many, how much money you spend, how many talking heads you sent out to pretend that he didn't waver in his support. He did. He did. We've been reading Charlie in his own words, okay, like you can't undo this. It's lost. Yes, he supported Israel throughout his entire career and then he felt the agent Smiths coming in, pressing him and pushing him, ironically over Tucker. And it really shows that you have no shame to do it again. To do it again posthumously, to say Tucker must never speak on a turning point. Stage Tuck Tucker must be canceled because Tucker wasn't a true friend to Charlie Kirk when Charlie Kirk died fighting for his right and for his friendship with Tucker Carlson.

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I think that's just, that's, that's ridiculous and it's shameless. And I guess before we take a big a bit of a break here, I wanna say that there is going to be a day when we all get to puff our chests out, stand tall and recognize that we, the American people triumphed over the Israel lobby. That's all I'm gonna say about that. We'll be right back.

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Okay, so I wanna address this. So many people have been writing into us, sending us emails, people that are paying in Super chats, asking me to address Erica Kirk. And I guess my question back would be what? What is there for me to address? She hasn't sat down for a long interview. All we have seen from Erica has been the speech at the memorial event for Charlie Kirk. I, I see the innuendo that is online. I am interested in investigating who killed Charlie Kirk. And the people that I have been reserving my eye for my smoke, for my investigation for are the people that are blatantly lying. Okay? People that are just lying about Charlie Kirk. That was my reason for going after Alex Clark.

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She lied about the Catholic thing. That was my reason for going after Andrew covet, Mikey McCoy, anybody that's told a lie, Rob McCoy, blood all over him. You got my attention. What lie has Erica told that I'm supposed to be focused on? Okay, like has she said something about, did she come out and say Charlie never had an issue with Israel in the end he loved Israel, who his dying breath. She hasn't done that. She simply hasn't done that. What we have around the corner is a big interview that's going to be dropping this week. Erica Kirk sat down with Jesse Waters and I can tell you Charlie loved Jesse Waters. Jesse Waters gave us the most playtime on Fox News back in the beginning that we like that was the big show that we got to book.

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And so it's a good fit. It's, it's a fitting program for her to go on to. If she was sitting down with like BB net and Yahoo's Entourage, I might have something to say. But everything that she has done has been, she's been having conversations with people who were actually friends with. Charlie Erica is also, I think, slated to join Megan Kelly on tour. Don't quote me, but I'm, I'm pretty sure I saw that being teased. Charlie opened up to Megan in the end, Megan stood 10 toes down on telling the truth, which is why I deeply respected her for doing this about the pressure that Charlie was under. And it was not easy for Meghan to do that. Okay? She's still catching heat for the fact that she did that. So I feel like Erica is kind of sending a message here that she's not standing against the people that are telling the truth.

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I said early on, if Erica Kirk asks me to be quiet, I will be quiet. She didn't ask me to be quiet. So I don't know what I'm supposed to do. A show on whether I like her hair, her outfits, that that doesn't feel right. And also keep in mind, that is the mother of Charlie Kirk's children. I had a real relationship with Charlie Kirk, a real friendship with Charlie Kirk and what is left of him in this world are his two small children. So to just take a baseless attack, if I catch her in a lie, it's a little different. But to just take a, take an attack on her does does not feel appropriate to me. I haven't seen any reason to do that. So I'm looking forward to the sit down with Jesse Waters.

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I think we're going to get a lot more from Erica and we're going to see where her mindset is currently. There is one clip that is going around and I have some unsolicited advice for Erica and I appreciate the sentiment of what she's saying here. Let's take a listen.

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The defense wants to ban cameras in the courtroom. How do you feel about that?

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There were cameras all over. My husband when he was murdered. There have been cameras all over, my friends and family mourning, there have been cameras all over me analyzing my every move, analyzing my every smile, my every tear. We deserve to have cameras in there. Why not be transparent? There's nothing to hide. I know there's not. 'cause I've seen there what the case is built on. Let everyone see what true evil is. This is something that could impact a generation and generations to come.

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So I agree with the sentiment and I'm glad that she has pointed out how ridiculous it is to not want cameras into the courtroom. How ridiculous it is to allow him to repeat, to appear virtually, not even on camera for some pre-hearing matters. None of this makes any sense to the public. And what I did say early on, I don't remember which episode it was, was I would not have wanted Erica to, it would not be my, it would not have been my advice for Erica in a stage of grieving to go from being the widow to being the CEO and the chairman of the company. If I was running the company, I would've said, let's put in place an interim CEO, right? Someone below Justin strife I think was the COOI would've put in an interim CEO and allowed people to figure things out because it is a true statement that there's, there's two things happening here.

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There are, there's a widow and then there is the chairman and the CEO. And that person, no matter what, is going to have to catch heat for any decisions the business is making. That's just the reality of the way the world works. When, when you're a CEO and you're a boss, you if, if a mistake is made doesn't matter whether you did it, whether you said it, whether you tweeted it, it it's going to come down on you. And she has assumed that role. Okay, so criticisms pertaining to anything that turning point USA that are being directed at Erica are fair. Obviously they are fair if they are directed about turning point USA in their actions. The second thing that I would say, and again this is as unsolicited advice so she's free to throw it out, but in the, the entire issue and the energy right now is that people, irrespective of what's happening on paper, don't believe the story.

1 (33m 36s):
They don't believe a story and you are, and of course this is only a snippet of the interview, so I'm sure more will be said here, but I'm getting that you have seen the case, you think it's a solid case. She thinks it's a solid case at least, and is saying show everybody what you have so they can see true evil within her capacity of chairman and CEO of Turning Point USA. They could be more transparent about what happened that day. People don't like the stuff that they've seen about Mikey McCoy. They don't like what they've seen about Rob McCoy. They don't like the history of Rob and Mikey McCoy and their involvement here. They don't like the video of Terrell. They don't believe what time text messages were sent or what when the phone calls took place.

1 (34m 16s):
You know, Rob McCoy is lying in the areas that you can control the transparency. I think doing that would be beneficial. The turning point SA 'cause I don't think, I don't think turning Point USA is going to survive if they continue down this path of, you know, Tyler Boyer late night tweeting at donors as he did over the weekend. I think he directed his fire at like John Mappin and Arena Mappin called John Mappin a loser. I don't think that that's the correct messaging to come out of Turning Point USA. And there is something that my husband always says to me, and I don't know if he got it from somebody else, he probably did.

1 (34m 55s):
But the expression is the market is always right. The market's always right. He says it's about like trading and things of that nature. Meaning irrespective of what your opinion is or what you think, you know, the market is the market. So maybe the top execs at Cracker Barrel thought it was brilliant to change the marketing and they brought in the highest paid advertisers to do that and they thought it was sleek and it was ama the people revolted and they said, we don't, we don't like this, we don't trust it. Put that old man back up there, we wanna see the cracker and the barrel or we're out and guess what the market was, right? That's kind of the point of the expression. The market is always right and the market right now is saying, we don't believe a single thing that happened that day.

1 (35m 36s):
We do not trust the donors at Turning Point USA, we've got no messaging about whether those donors were removed. We want turning point to hit hard. The people that are lying, why are we getting this dance around the Catholic topic? Which again did not come from Erica, okay? It did not come from Erica. And I would imagine there are a lot of people that are speaking in your ear. That's what it means to become the, to wake up one day and be the chairman and CEO of a major company. But people are gonna need clarity on these matters because it doesn't feel like those snakes are out of the garden. That's how it, that's what it doesn't feel like I would say. And so, yeah, I would say in every aspect that you can be transparent on, which doesn't involve the feds, I would do that.

1 (36m 19s):
I look forward to obviously watching the interview that is going to premiere in two days on Fox News with Jesse Waters. I will certainly be watching. Now, speaking of a lack of transparency, I am everyone right now when I say that Kash Patel is the most embarrassing human in the United States. Embarrassing for two reasons. One, Charlie Kirk was a big supporter of K Patel. Had him on his show, really pushed for him to get the role that he is in the director of the FBI. And he has just been terrible in this case. He just has been objectively okay, everything that we have seen coming outta this case makes entirely no sense from the impassioned messages written by 20-year-old gay men, which don't exactly sound Gen Z to this kind of ridiculous narrative that we can't see anything, we can't watch him drop down.

1 (37m 8s):
There's cameras everywhere, but you can't show us anything. All of the holes that are still in, in, in this story. And I didn't think he could make matters worse than over the weekend. Really guys, we are just not a serious nation. That's so I want you to know after this tweet, I realize we are not a serious nation and the empire is in its decline. I I actually think I wanna be Russian right now after what Kash Patel tweeted. He k Patel made me wanna be Russian like tomorrow. Like I'm gonna go live with Putin because at least he's like a serious person, right? And K Patel is no longer serious. So the backstory is K Patel, he had a marriage breakup. He starts dating this cute little thing, Alexis, she's very cute, very pretty girl, makes videos online and I don't know, I don't, I I guess he flew down in his FBI plane to go see her down in Nashville.

1 (37m 56s):
People found out that he went to go see her down in Nashville. The internet revolted and said this is an inappropriate use of taxpayer funds. Now it turns out that he is required to fly on the FBI plane no matter where he goes, whether it's a personal event or if it's a business event. But he is a hypocrite because there are clips of cash Patel calling the FBI corrupt before he was in the FBI and saying that taxpayer taxpayers shouldn't have to fund their personal trips and now he's funding his personal trip to go see his girlfriend Alexis. So internet didn't like the hypocrisy. The internet was correct. The market is always right.

1 (38m 37s):
Okay. The internet was absolutely correct about this. And what Cash Patel did was he wrote this like Andy Cohen hosting the Real Housewives of DC or something type tweet where he defends his girlfriend. I mean, how old is this girl? But seriously, she's she's young. She's, she's very young and this is what he wrote. I'm just gonna read it 'cause it's, it's so embarrassing that we have to read it and then I'm gonna get a passport to Russia. Okay? Here is the tweet. This is from the director of the FBI people buckle up. America's so serious. We're big and we're bad. Ready? I am proud of the work of this FBI. We're taking violent criminals off the streets in record numbers, crushing the fentanyl crisis, dismantling cartels, saving children, hunting down terrorists and so much more.

1 (39m 24s):
Let me be clear, we will not be distracted by baseless rumors or the noise from uninformed internet anarchists and the fake news I've always said, criticize me all you want but going after the people doing great work, my personal life or those around, around me is a total disgrace. The disgustingly baseless attacks against Alexis, a true patriot and the woman I'm proud to call my partner in life are beyond pathetic. She is a rock solid conservative and a country music sensation who has done more for this nation than most will in 10 lifetimes. I'm so blessed. Sorry, pull that back up. I gotta finish.

1 (40m 4s):
I'm so blessed that she's in my life. Attacking her isn't just wrong, it's cowardly and it jeopardizes our safety. My love of family will always be my cornerstone. Cornerstone and you will never tear that down or keep me from them. I and this FBI will stay laser focused on our mission and continue the reform that we promised rebuilding this borough from the ground up. Okay? It's like a lot again, I love that Twitter hit them immediately. He hit, they hit him with a little fact check. People are not attacking cash Patel's certificate other, but rather reacting to his firing of people who point out his usage of government funds to travel to her shows. Now objectively, this is embarrassing.

1 (40m 44s):
Objectively Alexis, she seems like she's a really sweet girl. She is not a country music sensation. It's sweet that you call your girlfriend that, okay? She's just not a country music sensation. It's ridiculous. It's like me talking to my daughter like I do, tell her she's a sensation she's, everything she does is sensational. It's just, it's so unbelievably petty. It's ridiculous. It's this entire tweet I just went, not every thought you have in your head needs to be sent. This does not make you look masculine. It does not make you look like somebody you should be taken seriously. There was no question that Vladimir Putin and the homies left. They did without question. They, they're on a group chat right now.

1 (41m 25s):
Ha ha ha. My country, his girlfriend, she's upset. She makes commentary on the internet. Okay? Fair game. If you're gonna weigh into po, if you're gonna weigh into politics, then you have to be able to deal with some pushback, whatever they were saying about her cash, okay? He, he's only been dating her by the way for like a year and a half, okay? Like this is like, it's like a new girl that he's dating and are we're talking about, just to remind you, in case you're just tuning in, we are talking about the director of the FBI and we are supposed to take away from this that we should have faith that he is emotionally stable enough that he has steeled himself for this investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. Like we are supposed to believe.

1 (42m 6s):
This is not a crash out man. I wish she had said to you, don't send that honey, honey baby don't send that honey, I don't, I wouldn't send that honey, baby that does not, it may it maybe you feel masculine doing it, but when you send it, it lets people know that America is weak. Like you need to be very reprimanded for this tweet. Could you imagine Vladimir Putin sending this tweet? Could you imagine any of his henchmen? Immediately they would be fired And that's why I would like to again plead with you guys to consider when I run in the future for dictator of the United States to consider how I will deal with this immediately. I will. I will sentence him to a month of hard labor.

1 (42m 49s):
Obviously that's the only correct response to K Patel writing this like I don't like these mean girls tweet. It's ridiculous. We are not serious people. The empire is in decline. So figure out where you're gonna live. 'cause I'm between Namibia and Russia. That's it. We'll be right back and answer some of your questions.

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1 (45m 50s):
All right, let's get into some of your comments. Maxi Dodo starts, he writes, dear Candace, thank you for being a true friend to Charlie. My son's middle name is Charlie, he is nine and you have helped make his name even stronger. You are an inspiration. God bless you and your family. Michael writes that from Australia. Thank you Michael. I love that that what I say has reached Australia. I wish that I was not banned from Australia, but you know me, I'm a super bad criminal, bad to the bone. I won't worship Israel. Stacey Massey writes so many trolls in the chat yet by being here, they are supporting Go Candace. Yeah, there's so many bots in the chat. I'm sorry that you guys have to go through that. We could actually put a timer so they can only post every 30 seconds and maybe we'll do that going forward. Gman writes, you are a shining light in the dark world.

1 (46m 32s):
We love you and are behind you. Don't give up or back down. I'm not giving up or backing down. It's like this. If they were ever going to steal me to and and make me so angry that I would just be on a war path, it would've been by assassinating Charlie Kirk and making me watch it. Truly. Like if you, if you wanted a political, a political foe, this was the way to do it. And what's so funny is I've said in so many rooms, like most people consider me as a formidable enemy, but I'm a much more formidable friend and I'm going to continue to be a formidable friend to Charlie Kirk. And the best way that I can do that is just telling the truth. No matter what the truth is, I can just share the truth. And that's the amazingness is like we just constantly texted all the time.

1 (47m 12s):
And as I said, I have no reason to lie, is a turning point. USA has access to all his messages. They can tell you that the messages are real, whether they're true or whether they're false. And I, the truth is enough. The truth is always enough. Tom Paul writes, Tyler Robinson's act AC act score. A CT score was 34, so he was in the 99 percentile. Thomas Matthew Crook's, SAT score was in the 99 percentile. Both recent lone shooters scored in the 99 percentile on standardized testing. Not a coincidence as if it is out of the same playbook. Something I wanna say about that, something actually that I would like to reiterate about that as I believe that is the reason for standardized test testing is that it flags for the government people. That could be a problem down the line.

1 (47m 54s):
It's, it's a kind of a repeat story in a lot of these mass shootings. I think also the one that was in, and I can't think of the guy's name, but it was in Connecticut, similar story. He somehow hacked the government system and then the FBI showed up at his door and then he was a part of some Yale program. I think it's Adam Lanza is who I'm thinking of. So there's a theme here and my opinion on that is not something that can be discussed on YouTube. So I'll save it for my book club tomorrow. Pedal rights. Love you Candace, please claim, oh, people claim you don't have a degree, but I've heard you say you do. Please set the record straight. Yeah, the truth is that I grew up poor. I was the third of a family of with four children.

1 (48m 37s):
The mom didn't even graduate high school actually, and my family didn't have the money as having to college. So I took out a ton of loans, student loans, Sally Mae loans. And then in, don't quote me on the year, but I think it was 2010, Sally Mae had a big collapse and they said, you can't go back for your senior year because we can no longer fund you to go back for your senior year. So I dropped out temporarily and then I, when I had my own money and paid off my student loans, which was something like $150,000 in student loans, which is absurd to me. Such a predatory a, a predatory system. You're literally pre preying on poor people. Disgusting. That's what used to is all about. Once I paid down my student loans, I re-enrolled to finish my last year.

1 (49m 18s):
And so I have two degrees actually. What else do we have here? TB writes, it's important to be exposed to all perspectives with the right to respectfully disagree. Charlie stood for that. So anyone who was divisive over this rite is, as Candace says it, fake and gay. Yeah, Charlie believed in free speech. He didn't even blink when I hosted Nick Fuentes. What absurd idea that Charlie would've, if Charlie ever messaged me and said, you're betraying me by speaking to this person, I, I wouldn't have been friends with him. That's the reality. Charlie was so cool, and that's why I hate that they're trying to make him like a dork in the afterlife, but I don't say a dork as in someone that's like well researched and knows the facts. I mean somebody that is so lame that they cannot beat you in the free market.

1 (50m 1s):
So they're trying to arbitrarily force you out as they are doing the Tucker Carlson because you're so, you're bigger than them. So trying to create scandal, they're trying to scandalize your name so that people stop watching you and trying to say, well, you can't speak on this platform because they can't beat you by being themselves because they suck. They're annoying. People don't like them anymore. It's not cool to say, don't have a conversation. It's not cool to hold up like some donor printed signs and do a dance in front of Randy. Fine. Tucker is not maga. People can see which way the wind is blowing and it's against Israel because everything they do is uncool and it also happens to be genocidal. So that doesn't help either.

1 (50m 41s):
Anyways, you guys, tomorrow we have the book club. First time ever, the book club was infiltrated. I'm proud of us, very proud of us people in the book club, so be sure to be there.

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Also remind you guys, make him a sandwich. If you wanna buy that, go to make him a sandwich.com. You guys are gonna love this book because it truly is very true and it's very funny and it's the things that I have gone through, obviously as a woman and kind of waking up to the reality of where that feminist movement came from. Emma Goldman, speaking of Beyond the Pale, that will make sense. That's one of the names of the chapter Beyond the Pale. And you will know more about where all of these bad ideas happened to come from.

1 (51m 19s):
Anyways, you guys, that was a fun Monday. Tomorrow we're going to jump back into the timeline because I got some amazing little factoid to add to it. And yeah, things got real interesting for Charlie after Tucker Carlson hit the stage and we're gonna speak that, speak about that. So I will see you guys tomorrow.

10/31/25

Candace Owens x Norman Finkelstein



0 (1s):
The Economist magazine, it describes Gaza as quote, a human rubbish sheep. The leading un official on Gaza describes it as, quote, a toxic dump for the people of Israel. Gazen are vermin, they're garbage, they're human refuse.

2 (25s):
You guys were the ones that insisted, totally

0 (28s):
Agree,

2 (29s):
Insisted that we all have a perspective on October 7th. Then when we looked and we pierced that veil, we went, oh my goodness, how was I ever peria? And now you want us to shut up?

0 (41s):
There is a problem here. A billion billionaire class of Jewish supremacists are now flagrantly using money as a black male weapon to silence, not just criticism of Jews, but silence, criticism of an ongoing genocide.

2 (1m 9s):
Alright, you guys, I am super excited about this conversation. Where do I begin? I'll just begin with my personal experience. October 7th took place, and I remember immediately after there was sort of this peer pressure campaign to get everybody to make a statement about what had happened in Israel. And frankly, I was happy to make a statement about how tragic those events were, but I didn't, I couldn't actually make a statement regarding why these events took place. I didn't know what had happened prior to that day. I didn't know the history of the modern state of Israel. And when I began a, what I would call a, an honest inquiry into the history of the modern state of Israel, I felt that I was basically in a pressure cooker.

2 (1m 58s):
People that I thought were, my friends were telling me not to pursue this route. I didn't comprehend what they meant when they said not to pursue this route. They were calling me names saying that I was flirting with antisemitism by wanting to read books and speak to people that were on the opposite side of that issue. And I got into a lot of trouble. And I mean a lot of trouble from people that I thought were my friends when I hosted the person who was now sitting across from me, norm Finklestein on my previous show. And the things that he told me about Gaza were shocking. It was especially shocking because this wasn't from someone that they could easily describe as anti-Semitic giving us history, which he's going to tell you about today.

2 (2m 42s):
Very important discussion. And he's also an individual that I thought quite strangely, none of the people who were peer pressuring me were willing to debate if Norm Finkelstein is wrong and he could be, why wouldn't the most prominent voices of the pro-Israel debate be willing to sit down with him and have that discussion? We're going to figure out why. Norm Finkelstein, welcome to my show. Actually, mine totally owned by me. I can host you here.

0 (3m 11s):
Well, thank you so much for having me on the show.

2 (3m 13s):
So just in case my audience has not been introduced to you, I would first just sort of like you to, and we're gonna get to your books, which, which are amazing, to kind of tell them your backstory and your credentials and what happened despite the fact that you were so credentialed.

0 (3m 30s):
The backstory is there's a personal element and there is a professional element. The personal element is that I am the son of survivors of the Nazi Holocaust. Both my parents were in what was called the Warsaw Ghetto. The Warsaw Ghetto was repressed after an uprising in April, 1943. There were about 20 to 30,000 survivors of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, and they were deported to maiden neck concentration camp. And both my father and my mother were deported to Maek. My mother ended up in two slave labor camps after Maiden Neck, and my father ended up in Auschwitz, and he was in the Auschwitz death march.

0 (4m 17s):
Every member of my family, apart from my mother and father, on both sides, everybody was exterminated. There were no aunts, there were no uncles, there were no grandparents, there was nothing. And my parents were for reasons not worth going into. Now, they were decidedly on the left politically. And it had a very deep impact on me growing up. And in a way, even though I grew up in a lower middle class Jewish neighborhood, I never quite fit in because of my family background and a totally different mindset, I think.

0 (4m 59s):
Okay. Partially different mindset than my peers because of my parents' experience in June, 1982, we're fast forwarding June 80, 19 82, Israel and invade Lebanon. And I got involved in the Israel Palestine conflict in my youth. It was mostly the war in Vietnam, the Civil Rights Movement. In 1982, it became Israel Palestine. I ended up writing my doctoral dissertation at a Princeton University on the theory of Zionism. And then in 1984, there was a kind of big national bestseller quote from Time Immemorial, which claimed to reveal new aspects of the Israel-Palestine conflict that proved Israel was in the right and the Palestinians were in the wrong.

0 (5m 53s):
I was still a graduate student at the time, and proved demonstrate that this book, which had the endorsement of the who's Who of the Jewish intellectual community back then, people like Barbara Tuckman, who you wouldn't know, soul Bellow the novelist, they all endorsed the book. And I am widely credited with the one exposing that it was a hoax. And from there on in, I would say after having demonstrated that this kind of humble graduate student proving that all the luminaries were either promo, were promoting a thread, bear hoax from there on.

0 (6m 41s):
And I would say I encountered difficulties in my professional life.

2 (6m 44s):
Amazing. So despite and you did achieve your, your PhD Yes. Despite this, wasn't there sort of some frocks that happened where they didn't allow you back? Or what, what happened at sort of the end of your career?

0 (6m 59s):
Well,

2 (6m 59s):
Academic career,

0 (7m 0s):
Right. I would say speaking frankly, and believe me, at my age, I have no interest whatsoever in invoking pity. It's water under the bridge. I never had an academic career. I was in academia, it's called being an adjunct. And an adjunct basically means you're hired from semester to semester. It's the equivalent of literally the equivalent of a substitute teacher in a public school system, except a substitute teacher is paid significantly more than an adjunct. And I was never able to get beyond the adjunct status, except one brief period at the pool university in Chicago, whereby a concatenation of events.

0 (7m 54s):
I managed to get on a tenure track job, tenure track job. But when the moment of truth came, I was denied tenure. And after that, because it was a kind of national story when I was denied tenure, because Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard University Law School made a determined public attempt to stop me. There was a big editorial in the Wall Street Journal by him. He made a very public attempt to stop me after that. That was 2008, 2007.

0 (8m 36s):
After that, I was completely unemployed, not even adjunct after that, actually, I know this will come as a, it will seem kind of unbelievable. I literally couldn't volunteer to teach. There were places where in high schools, a charter school, for example, in East Harlem, where a father of the principal was a friend of mine and his daughter, the principal was really wonderful. And she ran a tight ship that was a darn good school. You could see just walking through the hallways, I said, I'll volunteer.

0 (9m 16s):
No, no. So at that point, after the, the pool incident, I was completely blacklisted. But I never got started. I never got the, the plane never left the tarmac.

2 (9m 30s):
Well, I, I do wanna stress here, as I have been dressing on my show that these schools are Soviet indoctrination camps, I implore people to read Thomas Soul's book about inside the American education system. And what he is saying, it's perfectly into there the point is to indoctrinate your children. And if you do not have a doctor, so to speak, that is willing to go into the classrooms and do that indoctrination, they won't let them in. And, and this is this, this is absolutely proof of that. Okay. So I want to, to sort of give the same background, because you are a major piece of me waking up and realizing that I knew nothing about Gaza. Could you just unpack for people who are perhaps hearing this for the first time, I think a lot of people we've seen Israel's support has virtually collapsed, but, and that's because of the behavior that's going on with the censorship has become so extreme in America.

2 (10m 21s):
But let's actually give these people a background education like you gave me when you came on my show of what actually Gaza is, what is the history there? What happened to these people in, in 1948?

0 (10m 36s):
Obviously within the limits of an interview, it's very hard to go through that history with any kind of,

2 (10m 45s):
Well, you have a book for it. So I am gonna be a be a shameless promoter of this 'cause. This is, this will, we're gonna give you the spark notes here, but Gaza, an inquest into its martyrdom is the title of the book that will be relevant for this. But here we're gonna give you some SparkNotes.

0 (11m 0s):
Basically, if I were to try to summarize it for the purposes of this conversation, I believe the place to begin is 1948. The state of Israel is created in the course of its creation. About 90% of the indigenous Palestinian population of Israel was expelled about 750,000 people. Of those 750,000, about 300,000 were expelled to Gaza. And that's when Gaza kind of became Gaza. It was right now of the population of Gaza, about 80% are refugees from the 1948 war or descendants of those refugees under international law, a descendant of a refugee is still counted as a refugee.

0 (11m 58s):
So it's 80% a refugee population, and it's also about 50% a child population. Now, from the moment Gaza came under Egyptian administration after the 1948 war, Gaza comes under Egyptian administration. It's a very interesting fact. When you start going through the history, there are all these outside observers who go into Gaza, either to work there, like under the auspices of the UN or just to see the situation.

0 (12m 39s):
And one of the things that struck me was each time somebody goes to Gaza, they, they describe Gaza as a huge concentration camp. Now this is still under Egyptian rule. So ELM Burns the main un official in Gaza. He writes a book between Arab and Jew, others. He described Gaza. He described it as a huge concentration camp in 1967, during the June, 1967 war, Gaza comes under Israeli control. In July, 1967, the father of Al Gore, the presidential candidate, his father was also a senator.

0 (13m 22s):
So Al Gore or Senator Gore, meaning the father. He goes to Gaza, he comes back and he testifies before the US Congress. How does he describe Gaza? He says Gaza is quote, a huge concentration camp on the send, if you will. He now fast forward to 2002. Now, one of Israel's leading sociologists, his name was Baruch er link. He writes a little book. Little book is called Politic. How does he describe Gaza? He describes Gaza as, quote, the biggest concentration camp ever. 2004, the head of Israel's national Security Council, his name is Gura Island.

0 (14m 9s):
He's still around. He's active now, behind the scenes in the Netanyahu government, he describe Gaza. He describes Gaza as a huge concentration camp. Now bear in mind, bear in mind, this is before Israel imposed a blockade of Gaza. It was already a horror show. It's been a horror show since 1948 in ni in 2006, Israel imposes a blockade on Gaza. It decides what goes in it, decides what goes out. It decides who goes in it, decides who goes out.

0 (14m 50s):
They put, put Gaza on what they call a humanitarian minimum diet. You know what that meant? It meant they calculated, literally, we're not talking about hyperbole now, poetry. They calculated the caloric diet of everyone living in Gaza. And they admitted just enough food to avoid scenes of starvation. That was 2006. We're not talking about after October 7th. They prohibited baby chicks from going into Gaza.

0 (15m 31s):
They prohibited chocolate from going into Gaza. They prohibited potato chips from going into Gaza. They prohibited condiments from going into Gaza, no cinnamon allowed in Gaza. Why they wanted to create such intolerable conditions that the population of Gaza would overthrow the government that they elected. So that was Gaza. Now you come to 2006, October six. Okay? You come to 2006, the Economist magazine, which you know is not a flaming liberal magazine.

0 (16m 17s):
It describes Gaza as, quote, a human rubbish sheep. The leading, the leading un official on Gaza describes it as quote, a toxic dump. 60% of the young people in Gaza, the people who burst the gates of Gaza on October 7th, 60% of them are unemployed. All they have to, all they have to look forward to when they get up each morning is to pace the perimeter of this tiny parcel of land. 26 miles long, the length of a marathon, five miles white, that was Gaza.

0 (17m 5s):
It was exactly what the UN officials said. Exactly what Al Gore's father said. Exactly what the head of the na Israeli National Security Council said they were born into. They were born into, they languished in, and they were destined to die in a concentration camp. It was like an elephant burial ground, really. And when I struggled after October 7th, I've said this many times, but it's a fact.

0 (17m 47s):
It's not a drama point. You know what happened? October 7th was awful. There's no doubt in my mind about that. The magnitude was significant. 1200 people killed about estimates of, it's not estimates. Close to 800 of them civilians, 400 combatants, Israeli, IDF me, members of the Israeli Defense Forces. So significant number, can't get around that. I know there are all sorts of stories about Israel having killed a lot of number. I've investigated as best I can. And I'll admit, you know, there's still room on the margins for error.

0 (18m 28s):
But I think was overwhelmingly, it was committed by hummus. And so how do you, how do you reckon something like that? But in politics, there are many levels. There's the facts. There's your political judgment, there's the illegal judgment. There's your moral judgment. And they don't come directly from the facts. They do not. They go through many filters or sieves before you get a moral judgment. And when I start to try to think it through, I latch.

0 (19m 9s):
I, I came upon in my mind the Nat Turner Rebellion. So for those of your listeners who are unaware, it was the largest slavery vote in American history. And Nat Turner, he gave the order. All the historians agree on this. There isn't a huge literature in that Turner, but there is a literature, they all agree. At one point, he gave the order, which he never denied. He did the famous confession. We don't know how much of the confession is actually him and how much is the person who's writing it. But this part seemed real. The order was kill all white people.

0 (19m 49s):
Kill all white people. And that's what they proceeded to do. They went on what you might call a 70, no, no, a 48 hour rampage. Less than 48 hours actually. And

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Hacked men, women, babies. It was brutal. It was brutal. But then something struck me, one historian, his name is Steven Oaks, and he's trying to understand Nat Turner's motivation. Why did he do it? And he said, Nat Turner was a very smart guy. There was no question about that. The person who, who took down his confession, he said he was white. He said white or black.

0 (21m 17s):
Everybody agreed. Nat Turner was a very smart guy. And then he said, the historian though, he said there was this huge gulf for Nat Turner, very smart guy between what he aspired to be in life and what he was destined to be, because he was a slave, that huge gulf. He knew he was smart. And yet he also knew as the historian, Stephen Oaks put it, that this is only earthly existence.

0 (22m 0s):
He was born into Languish Inn and would die a slave. And that was the people, the young people in Gaza. They knew, you see now, Gaza Gaza's in the news. But by October 6th, 2023, Gaza had vanished from the news I have made, I have made the point, because I do believe it's relevant. I had spent about 15 years just chronicling the details of what's happening in Gaza. I began roughly in the early two thousands, and by 2020 I gave up.

0 (22m 49s):
That's a fact. And I'm, it was not a fact I was proud of because I was writing books, writing books. They were getting more and more detailed. I mean, so micro detail, and nobody was reading them. The last book I wrote was called IQs. My publisher, not happily informed me. It sold 370 copies. Of those 370, I purchased half of them. No, it's a fact, because it was about a case related to Gaza in the International Criminal Court. And I was hoping to influence the court through my research.

0 (23m 32s):
So I was going to present it to the I, the ICC. But by 2020, I said, norm, you know, you have only one life to live. And am I just going to stubbornly persist in the face of the fact that nobody cares? And that was the situation in Gaza. Gaza had vanished from the political scene by October 6th, 2023. All the talk was about whether the Saudi, Saudi Arabia would join the Abraham Accords.

0 (24m 16s):
Nobody was talking about Gaza anymore. And so the people of Gaza basically did what Nat Turner did. Now here's the thing, imagine an account of Nat Turner that doesn't mention he was a slave, just this crazy religious fanatic. He was a religious fanatic. No question about that. Now, Nat Turner was a religious fanatic. He used the language of the Bible to try to make sense of his condition. That's what a religious fanatic meant.

0 (24m 57s):
You know, John Brown, who led the insurrection before the Civil War, he also was a religious fanatic. He deeply fanatically believed slavery was an abomination. To the point that, you know, I don't want to get off on a digression, but when Frederick Douglass, the great abolitionist, when he went to meet John Brown Douglass comments in one of his, he had three autobiographies. When one of them, he comments, he just wouldn't stop talking about slavery.

0 (25m 38s):
He said he was boring. He was a fanatic. He was Johnny OneNote, John Brown, and only about slavery. And, and Nat Turner too, he was a religious fanatic. But imagine if you try to make sense of the not Turner Rebellion, by focusing only on his religious fanaticism, like the pH religiously fanatic Haas, only focus on that and not mention the guy who's a slave.

2 (26m 21s):
Or mention if it were the circumstance for Nat Turner. And it isn't, or mentioned the fact that Nat Turner, actually the rebellion was funded by money that one of the slave owners gave him. That would be something that would be important if there was the Bibi Netanyahu circumstance there, or that, you know, the slave owners received multiple warnings and for some reason just decided to ignore the fact that this rebellion was brewing. I mean, there's a lot of things I've been, I've been to Israel, and it is, Charlie Kirk said it best immediately after. 'cause he had been many, many times truly unbelievable. It's, it's actually quite scary because every 15 feet, there's an armed person, they take their security very seriously.

2 (27m 1s):
They were, I mean, now people are speaking out, and I think a lot more is gonna come out because they have been censoring, bibe has been lying, censoring, editing transcripts. I've been following the case against him pretty closely because there are Israeli publications that have been documenting everything. Obviously, he's not well liked by the people in Israel. They, they are, they, they were taken to the streets to protest him. But it's, it is almost unbelievable that that circumstance, plus when you add to the fact they intercepted a document right way earlier that said, 200 hostages were going to be taken by Hamas. It's almost unbelievable.

2 (27m 42s):
They ignored everything plus Egypt, warning 'em that something was happening on the border. I I, I, I have never bought that. There was not, not that it took place, of course it took place and it was terrible. But that there, it wasn't intentionally allowed. And I, I truly believe that in my soul, after I saw the footage prior to October 7th of Bibi net and Yahoo, I'm not sure if you've seen this, but he is, he thinks he's off record. He says, you know, put the cameras down, like off record. And he starts detailing a plan where he's like, we gotta hit Gaza so hard that they can't go back. And, and so they sort of needed a pretext of sorts. And do I think BB net and Yahoo is evil enough to sacrifice his own people? Yes.

2 (28m 21s):
A million times over what's been happening in Gaza is a tremendous evil. And I don't think we will truly know the full picture of how evil it was until BB net and Yahoo is removed from power and we're able to see the transcripts that he's blocking of, of the conversations he had that day with his cabinet.

0 (28m 39s):
Look, there are obviously, there are areas of interpretation here, and I don't want to pretend as if I have a monopoly in the truth. If you look back at nine 11, okay, our own September 11th, if you look back, and there were many people who wrote at the time, there were a lot of people in the National sec, national Security establishment who had reports that there was going to be an attack. They came in, the reports came in. No question about that. You have to remember, when you are a state, the size of the United States and the power of the United States, you're going to be getting each day 10,000 intelligence reports about possible terrorist attack here, possible terrorist attack there.

0 (29m 36s):
The United States has a huge number of bases around the world. So you are always getting reports. But a intelligence establishment has to rank threats. And they ranked the Osama Bin Laden threat, low or lower then it should have been ranked in the case of Israel. Here, we're free to disagree. Israel is, it's a Jewish supremacist state. That's not my opinion. Okay. So the head of Israel's main human rights organization, it's called Beel, B-T-S-E-L-E-M, and the head of Israel's human rights Beel, this is a few years ago.

0 (30m 30s):
It's a guy named Hagai El Odd, very decent guy. I've never met him. I'm not sure if he ever wanted to meet me, but decent guy. He was a Harvard trained PhD in physics, serious fellow. Okay? And he put out a little report, or he was the executive director when be Selem, put out a report. It was probably 10, 15 years ago now, 10 i, my memory's bad for time now. And he said, here are the basic facts. There's one state from the Mediterranean to the Jordan. There's no Israel and occupied territories.

0 (31m 10s):
It's, there's just one state. And he said that state it's foundation is Jewish supremacy. There are different levels of Jewish supremacy. It's different for the situation of Arabs. Palestinians living in Israel, Palestinians living in the West Bank, Palestinians living in Gaza and Palestinian refugees. It's different levels. But the foundation is, it's a Jewish supremacist state. Now why do I mention it? Because for the people of Israel, Gazen are vermin.

0 (31m 51s):
They're garbage. They're human refuse. And so when you are getting intelligence supports from Gaza that they're gonna launch an operation Israeli intelligence establishment, this thing, what are you talking about? Mm. They're gonna outsmart us. They are gonna trick us with our surveillance, with our technology, with our IDF. This vermin is going to be able to pull this off.

0 (32m 31s):
So I think they did the same thing as our Bush administration did with Osama bin Laden. They put it on a low priority. They were shocked that Hamas was able after October 7th. They were shocked that Hamas was able to pull it off. Yeah.

2 (32m 53s):
Dave Smith, who's a friend of mine, believes just Yeah, it said, has your perspective. He does have your

0 (32m 59s):
Perspective. Yeah. One, one last point on this because, and I wanna hear you out. You said the Israelis hate Netanyahu. I don't think that's true at all. Netanyahu is the longest sitting prime minister in Israeli history. If you follow it as I do. And you're not obliged to, that's not your niche. Every few years they report, netan is going, netan is going, netan is out, netan is finished. No, he's not. And you know why? Because he's an obnoxious, narcissistic Jewish supremacist.

0 (33m 44s):
And that's Israeli society, obnoxious, narcissistic Jewish supremacist. When they see him, they see themselves. So there may be quarrels on this policy issue and that policy issue, but at the end of the day, they keep voting for him and they vote for him because Netanyahu is not just the face of, he's the reality of Israeli society. Yeah. When they try so hard, they try so hard. The people who are critical of Israel, people like Bernie Sanders, who's been not bad in recent years, he has his limits, but he's been okay.

0 (34m 32s):
He always tries to a laser beam. Netanyahu. That's not true. The problem is not Netanyahu. The problem is the whole of Israeli society, if you look at the polls, half of Israeli Jews believe Israel should commit a genocide in Gaza. Wow. That's what the polls show about 70 to 75% polls say there are no innocence in Gaza. Mm. No innocence.

2 (35m 9s):
There's nothing but children. Yeah.

0 (35m 11s):
No innocence in Gaza. Half the population being Jewish, the former Israeli or the current Israeli opposition leader, he said that the IDF, the Israeli Defense forces, they killed children as a hobby. As a hobby.

2 (35m 32s):
Yeah. I've seen some videos of, yeah, like how proud they are when they kill a child. And it's, it's really dark. But also, I will say, you can see psychological conditioning, as in you, their viewpoints on the Palestinians, you can tell is being nurtured from the time that they're a child. And I ran into somebody who left Israel, moved to Tennessee recently, and I ran into him at a farmer's market, and he said, I absolutely love you and I want you to know that we learn this stuff from the time we are children. I

0 (36m 2s):
Totally

2 (36m 2s):
Agree with that. He said, and he, so he left and he said, from the time we are children, we learn to. So he kind of broke a psychological barrier to get there, obviously, as an Israeli, but you are correct. I mean, and, and that's why psychology really is the name of the game when you're talking about religious fanaticism or any other fanaticism. I wanna say also, there is an element of psychology. And that is why in, in my capacity now, I be, that's actually got a lot of trouble talking about the history of Sigmund Freud. But if you wanna really speak about what is happening with, with psychology, propaganda pr he's the father of all of that. And going back and tracing those roots, it's very scary. I mean, these were really deeply dark people who were trying to cover up their own crimes.

2 (36m 46s):
And that is the reality. Without, without getting going off on a tangent here, but you are correct, and I think I would like to hear your perspective on how the tentacles of that Jewish supremacy have manifested. And, and you are actually, and I'm sure you wouldn't refer yourself as a victim, but I'm saying what happened to you in your life, the circumstances around what happened in your academic career is actually reflected in the Jewish supremacist. These are the perspectives that you have to have if you're gonna be welcome into these spaces that we control. How did that happen?

0 (37m 20s):
Well, I would wanna make the following points. Number one, the Jewish showing since October 7th, it's actually, I'm talking about broadly American Jewish showing. It's actually not been bad. I'm actually very surprised. So for example, somebody sent me this, let's see, the most recent poll from the Washington Post, it found that 61% of American Jews say Israel has committed warp crimes in Gaza.

0 (38m 2s):
40% say Israel has committed genocide there. And about half, about half are opposing what Israel is doing in Gaza. It's a little, it's about 10% less than the American people in general. But it's not a bad showing. And we should recognize that.

2 (38m 25s):
And I say it on my show all the time. I say, when we are, it, it's, it's important to recognize that, not only that because I, I grew up in Stanford, Connecticut, so I grew up in very Jewish area. And I always remark, these are not the Jewish people that you went to school with. Right? We're talking about these, these ho hubs of power DC Totally agree Hollywood. And so it sounds like when you're reading the news, every Jewish person must hold this perspective and that is not reality. Look,

0 (38m 48s):
I wanna say, Candice, I'm grateful that you say that. I believe that's factually correct. Yeah. If you remember the first demonstrations against the genocide in Gaza, the biggest ones were led by Jews at Grand Central. Remember at the Statue of Liberty, it was deeply moving and they were very active. Jewish students were very active in the encampments around the country. They were,

2 (39m 20s):
But, and they didn't get the same showcasing in the media. They tried to pretty much squash it, but it was there. And that's important to state. But

0 (39m 26s):
Within that context, whereas I say the results of the polls are in bad, in my opinion, within that context, you use the word hubs. It's a fact. And one has to, in my opinion, face it because it's having real consequences. There's a Jewish supremacist billionaire class, which is exerting a huge amount of power and muscle upfront and behind the scenes. So I would just go through a few examples.

2 (40m 11s):
Can I throw one at you? Barry Weiss becoming the president Yes. Of CBS news that where I'm telling you, she, I mean, that's, she actually sat an IQ test. Yeah. That's what you would call, she would be below average intelligence.

0 (40m 22s):
What I would call that, and I'll get to that. Yeah. I would call that Jewish supremacist affirmative action.

2 (40m 28s):
Correct. That's beyond affirm affirmative action. She's

0 (40m 30s):
Crazy's what? She has no competence.

2 (40m 32s):
She can't even hold a conversation. You don't even wanna listen to her.

0 (40m 35s):
She, she is so lacking in gray matter that she couldn't pass the test to be on the view.

2 (40m 44s):
How, I mean, how is she not embarrassed to show up for work every day, knowing that probably the majority everybody knows Yes. The majority of people that are probably everyone is smarter than her. They've worked harder than her. They would be better in that position. Holy yes. And everyone's looking at you going, this is an affirmative action hire. Yes. Yes. And I call this the children of Bonai Beith. And people that are reading the books that I'm reading Will will learn a bit more about that. But she, it's so obvious. Went to, did a year at Tel Aviv University. She's in the club, so to

0 (41m 12s):
Speak. Well, she was, she was in the club from a quite young age. Yeah. She was born into it. 'cause she, she led, she led the campaign at Columbia University when she was an undergraduate to try to rid the faculty of pers professors critical of the state of Israel. She lost that battle, but now she's obviously

2 (41m 31s):
Memorized. I would die of embarrassment if I showed up every day and everyone knew that I did not belong there. Yeah. But like daddy made a phone call sort of a feeling. Yes.

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0 (44m 9s):
So when, very shortly into October 7th, I am asked to do a debate and I said, fine by Lex Friedman, he asks me to do a debate. Surpris me that and I, he says, who? I said, who do you want me to debate? He said This thing called Destiny. I didn't know what that person was called. Destiny. I said,

2 (44m 34s):
You got a date with Destiny. Yeah,

0 (44m 36s):
Exactly. Yeah. You are my destiny. I know, you know, I don't claim to a distinguished academic pedigree, but at this point in my life, in my life, I'm not debating a thing called Destiny. So I said to Lex Friedman, thanks, but no thanks. And then he, by the way, I didn't know who Lex Friedman was either. I don't follow podcasts or things like that. I'm a book person, old fashioned. And then he gets back to me about three weeks later and he says, how would you like to debate Benny Morris?

0 (45m 16s):
I said, sure. Benny Morris is Israel's senior historian. I know his work very well. And it would be exciting for me, actually, from an intellectual level to actually face him. 'cause I had written a lot on him. And then Lex Friedman says, and Destiny, I'm wondering, why are you harping on Destiny?

2 (45m 40s):
This random streamer? So strange.

0 (45m 42s):
It was strange. Exactly. It was so strange. I, I then thought to myself, if I refused, then it would look like I'm afraid to debate Benny Morris. 'cause he's his real serious senior historian and very smart. He knows his stuff for sure. And I didn't want that to be broadcast far and wide. Finkelstein afraid to debate Benny Morris. So I said, okay, if he wants to come along with Benny Morris, this, this thing called Destiny. I said, okay, I'll, I'll do it. And I said, I'll debate with my good friend, very smart guy M Ani, top of the line.

0 (46m 22s):
And we share, we have the same political outlook. So why do I mention it? A few months later, I'm having a conversation with a friend of mine and he says to me, you know, destiny was paid to be on with you. I said, no, nobody told me that. He said, yeah, he was. And he described it 'cause he was discreet. He described it as a Israel advocacy group, had groomed him to debate me and had, I'm using the words he said, paid him handsomely to debate me.

0 (47m 3s):
And it's an unimpeachable source. By the way, the person who told me this is not political at all. Mm. Just by coincidence, he could say with absolute certainty. Mm. And I know it. Why do I mention it? 'cause at that time, this was like this first month into October 7th. It was a kind of a revelation. But now we're two years later. We're two years later in the, in the time that's elapsed. Not one, not two three Ivy League precedents were toppled.

0 (47m 49s):
There's never been, I know the history of academic freedom in our country. I've written on it. There's never been anything like it. This massive assault. How was it conducted? It started with people like Bill Ackman, the billionaire. He threatens Harvard. You don't crush the encampments, you don't get alumni money. That was, it was very, very straightforward. It was pure blackmail. And which

2 (48m 19s):
Is, by the way, their favorite tactic. Financial blackmail comes first.

0 (48m 22s):
Yeah. So it was fin, it was financial blackmail. If you look at the Harvard report and antisemitism one alumni, one Jewish alumni gave Harvard $200 million. One alumni gave Harvard $300 million, Ackman $50 million. And then there was a petition organized. My memory is that the number probably increased vastly, the original version of the petition, 1200 Jewish alumni from Harvard threatened to withhold the Contribu alumni contributions.

0 (49m 2s):
And so systematically these college presidents are being ousted. I can quote to you, but I can't tell you the source, but I could tell you no, you have to judge people by their track record whether I have a track record of being accurate or inaccurate. When President McGill was deposed from the University of Pennsylvania, a person approached her who knew her to express commiseration with her situation. And she replied with two words, money talks.

2 (49m 43s):
I can speak to that. I mean, I've lived it. And that is the first thing that happens, which is financial blackmail. And a lot of people wanna know, well, why is this person doing this? Or why are they not saying it? I like, at the end of the day, they let you know you'll lose everything. And some people go, well, it's not risk. I, I'd rather just toe a line so that I can keep life as I know it. And so, yeah, the majority of people are facing that. They have families to feed and they don't know how to restart because in most circumstances, it's all they've ever known. Right. So you're talking about someone who's maybe been in the academia for a very long time, and they're going, not only will we forcefully pick you out, kick you out, we'll also slap a tag on you and call our friends in the media like a Barry Weiss when she was at New York Times to smear you and libel you as an antisemite.

2 (50m 25s):
And so you are asking for a type of bravery that I would say most people don't have. And they just go, I'm gonna shut up that. But the answer to that for people that are listening is take your kids outta the schools. You don't need these schools. I mean, what is the upside? You're paying an absolute fortune for your children to go to debt. The system is rigged anyway. Right? They're, you think they're gonna have the same jobs they want their children to go on. What does it say about our society that Norm Finkelstein can achieve tenure, but an admitted child rapist, like Jeffrey Epstein had a office at Harvard University like that, that wasn't what caused the, the billionaire backlash, which would've made sense.

2 (51m 6s):
We're all pulling our money unless you get this person who doesn't have any sort of an academic career, by the way, off of our campus, no. And this was after he admitted and served time in jail, Jeffrey Epstein still had an office on at Harvard University campus. And that's why I say to people, that's a Mossad operation, no matter which way you look at it. Harvard University, in my view, is running a Mossad operation. But again, don't wanna get lost on another tangent. You are absolutely correct. That that is a, a stunning example of, of how the mechanics are when we're speaking about their system of financial blackmail.

0 (51m 39s):
There, there are many aspects to it. And a lot of it has come out in recent months, the paying people of $7,000 for each post in support of Israel

2 (51m 50s):
Life changing money. For most influencers imagine that, yes, you can tweet 10 times a day and have $70,000. And I know for a fact, fact you're saying you don't, you can't speak to your source. I know for a fact because I know someone who took the money and they wouldn't tell me what billionaire was. But I can tell you around May of this year, whenever I, I termed it, operation Mocking pastor was happening where every pastor, it seemed started, jumped on stage one Sunday and said, don't follow Canice Owens. And Tucker Carlson, a very weird sermon to preach all on the same day. It was right after Ted and Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson had debated, there was a billionaire that went out and offered what they said to me was an obscene amount of money for people to begin influencing by creating anti Candace and Tucker billion Tucker videos.

2 (52m 41s):
So that's how it works. I mean, that is just how it works. But I think before they were a little less arrogant and they wanted to be less obvious that that's how it worked. And now there's a panic happening. And so in their desperation, and this is what's happened over the last two years, they've just been sort of in your face, we're throwing money at the cause. We control everything and we don't care if you know about it.

0 (53m 3s):
Yeah, I I totally agree with that. That now it's become, as I said, it operates in two levels. Part of it, it is remarkably in your face. Mm. We Bill Ackman, a hedge fund manager decides on his own, who is going to be president of Harvard University. You know, there's nothing like that in our history. Just the brazenness of it.

2 (53m 33s):
And recently, how about baby net and Yahoo on camera? Yes. That's with American influence. This is, I I said in in commentary about this a couple years ago, if you said that Jewish people held power in media, you'd be referred to as an antisemite. Fast forward to today, and you have BB net and Yahoo sitting down saying that we, I need this deal to go through on TikTok because that is a weapon that we need to be able to use in a room on camera. Yes. With American influencers. Yes. So that is just, and they're saying how do we combat can Owens Tucker Carlson, we don't have any power. I I I shoot the show in my basement. You know, I'm, there's no, I'm not feeding into some web and getting paid from foreign influencers or being funded by Qatar. I mean all smears and libels.

2 (54m 14s):
And so what does, what does that say when you have a, a foreign country leader, even in Yahoo saying that on camera?

0 (54m 22s):
Well, I agree. I totally agree with that. The fact that he just blatantly says we have to control the media. I would say in response to what you said a few moments ago, you said it does take a lot of courage to resist these, this, I would say there are levels of courage that it requires. So we'll take the most recent case that came out of was Public Van Jones. Van Jones is not a poor man.

2 (54m 58s):
Certainly not. He

0 (54m 59s):
Got a hundred million dollars from Jeff Bezos. These are Jeff Bezos, these are insurance policies. He gave Obama a hundred million dollars. He gave Van Jones a hundred million dollars. Why? It's perfectly obvious, because he knows at some point there's going to be a major strike at Amazon because it's a huge operation with a large number of people who are paid sub substandard wages. So he has an insurance policy, make sure if and when that moment comes, Obama will be on his team.

0 (55m 40s):
Van Jones will be on his team. That's a straightforward transaction, business transaction. But it's money, you know, a hundred million dollars. So why does he do this? Why does he come on TV with his yellow ribbon? I live in an old Jewish neighborhood in Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn. There's literally a synagogue in every block and some blocks, there are two synagogues. You walk up and down Ocean Parkway, it's all Jewish. I don't see anyone wearing a yellow ribbon. I know. I'm really, no,

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I know. I

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Don't see anyone wearing a yellow ribbon. Why is, why is Van Jones advertising the flag? He's just advertising. I'm a slave. Yeah, that's what he's

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Saying. He used to, he used to brand slaves

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And he's just a slave. Mm. And this

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Is how I feel when I see people in Congress. I mean, think about presidential debate wearing a, a of flag pin from a flag that is, it's not American. It's like you're, you're just a, a slave.

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And he's wearing the yellow ribbon here. If there were any, what you call truth in advertising, he would wear a dollar sign here, a YA dollar gold pin over here. 'cause it's just money. It's such a revolting site. And he goes on with Bill Maher and Tom Friedman, two Jewish supremacists, and they're laughing about dead gazen babies, you know, very funny. They're laughing about, and the thing is, van Jones knows they're not just laughing with him.

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They're laughing at him. Yeah. He's our slave. Yeah. And he has, he doesn't have even that minimum, that minimum self-respect and dignity. He makes jokes about dead Palestinian babies. So,

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Gosh, I didn't, I didn't hear, I didn't hear whatever joke that he said. And so that makes my skin call. He,

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He said that if you open up TikTok, all you see is dead Palestinian babies. Dead Palestinian babies. Dead Palestinian babies dti, dead Palestinian babies. Ha ha ha ha. And he says, do you know why you only see that? He says, because the Iranians and Qatar are behind it. They are, they are manipulating the media. But there's another possible ex explanation. You know what the possible explanation is? Maybe there are a lot of dead Palestinian babies. In fact, just the very first month, just October, 2023.

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Do you know more Palestinian children were killed just that first month, then all the other war zones in the world combined in 20 19, 20 20 or 2021 or you know, 2021. If you combine them each year, if you combine each year, every other war zone, this tiny parcel of land called Gaza, more children were killed. Now it's about the minimum estimate. The minimum estimate is 20,000 children killed.

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Now if you look at the, the human rights supports, it'll probably come as a surprise to you. You look at the most recent one that's put out by the un, the Navi Pale Commission. Navi Palle was the former human rights chief in the un. And then she was on the tribunal, the president of the tribunal on Rwanda. She's from South Africa. They report Israel targets children, targets them in the head and in the chest, Israel targets toddlers.

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That's the word. They use targets toddlers in Gaza. They said in the report, in order for children who are suffering from malnutrition, you, I know you have four children, so you'll be much more knowledgeable than me. They need a special infant, baby formula. I guess it's a high protein infant baby formula. Israel bans it. But for Van Jones with his frat boys, Tom Friedman, it's all Qatari and Iranian propaganda.

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But, and, and what's interesting about that is they cannot produce a shred of proof that anybody is funded by guitar. It's just, it's a literal talking point and saying that has been fictionalized by Bibi net and Yahoo's agents. You have to register under far every time you take a meeting. They cannot produce one shred of proof to that effect. And yet all of the proof is here. That actually totally agree. Everyone is funded by Israel in America. And so you just go for d for Van Jones. I mean, I, I can't imagine going to bed every night and just realizing it doesn't matter how nice your house is, you're st you're still a slave. You're still a slave. And,

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And to advertise it, the yellow ribbon. Yeah. Who wears the red yellow ribbon? Does Ben Shapiro still wear it?

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Does did he used to wear it?

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I think he used to.

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I, I'm not sure, but

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Currently this is two years later. Mm. I don't know anyone who he, but he still wears it. Just to, to show, you know, I'm sure it's in this contract, if you wear the yellow ribbon, an extra thousand a bonus, a thousand dollars.

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And, and, and that is, it's really important for people to know that, how the dynamics work, because they do this through charity. And I know that there are other people that are working on a report on this now because it's become so obvious of how they will even give people the permission, these influencers to say, well, I I'm not taking any foreign money. Okay, nobody expected that you were receiving a check from BB net and Yahoo. What they do is they'll flood the zone and they'll give money to like the International Fellowship of Christian and Jews or put, you know, put money into a church and then those individuals will then give money to influencers. It's like, it's, it's such an obvious game. And it's, I will say on on the quote unquote Christian side of things, we're seeing that people are awakening to these pastors that are going on these multiple trips to Israel and coming back and telling their congregants that no matter what they have to support Bibi net and Yahoo.

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I mean, it's nutty, but I'm happy because it does seem as though we are reaching this inflection point where the correct people who, and the honest people rather have been telling the truth for a very long time, are finally getting their day.

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I would say public opinion is shifting for sure. You know, I, I'll I'll return to that in a moment. As I said, there's a such a complete unwillingness to see the situation you're in. You are placed in when you are, you're just a slave for these folks. So you take the case of Barry Weiss, okay? And there are people who work in her outfit who are not Jewish.

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You read, she wrote a little book. It was a stupid book. It was a, I mean it was a comic. It wasn't a book. It's sort of the I teach and it was something you'd get from a a a a paper from a, a freshman, freshman paper. And how does she end the book? Lemme just quote, this is how, it's a book about antisemitism and how to fight it. Like she knows about fighting antisemitism here. She writes, this is the force of who we are. We are a people descended from slaves who brought the world ideas that changed the course of history.

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One God, human dignity, the sanctity of life freedom itself. This is our inheritance. That is our legacy. We are the people commanded to bring light into this world. I mean, these are just, you know, that's a passage you would, if you replace the proper noun, it's something you'd read in Meko. That's their mentality. These are Jewish supremacists and what did they think of a Van Jones? What's going through their head when they see a Coleman Hughes? They'll

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Never, where they think they'll, they'll never be us

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Complete contempt, complete contempt, our slaves 100%.

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You

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Know? Yeah. It's pitiful. Really?

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And, and they could ruin those people in four seconds. Like it's like you are literally our property. And I, and, and I sensed that because I do wanna add this one element. Like before October 7th, there were tons of people who were on the quote unquote pro-Israel side like me, meaning never cared to look at the issue. Sounds okay. Ba you know, basic, I'm not gonna speak about this issue because I don't really know about it and it's not relevant to speak about. Like, I, I really entered in the scene of politics, really intent on sort of waking up black America to other layers of slavery. Like, you know, what we learned in the classroom and constantly thinking that we have to marry ourselves to one party or, and now I'm kind of through it both and being like, actually both sides are really bad. But yeah, so it's very, I I do want people to be forgiving and know that some people genuinely just don't know.

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But now we're not there. We're not at that point anymore. People don't know. They very much know. And they're making a conscious decision that the cash means more to them than the truth. That they are willing to allow children to be murdered and killed everyday. Plucked off and joke and joke about it. And to tell jokes about it and to, and to spread lies about the condition that is happening. When you see, if you do not have a spiritual reaction to seeing those children that are starving every day, they will always pluck the one example of this guy wasn't actually starving and so therefore nobody's starving. And it is so plainly obvious that that is untrue again before October 7th. That would've been untrue.

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That you just wonder if these, like, I just dunno how they do it. I genuinely don't know how they do it because I would rather lose everything as I've proven, take it all than to speak something that is untrue because I know that my soul will pay a consequence for that.

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As I said, 40% of American Jews are convinced Israel is committing genocide. Yeah. But Coleman Hughes doesn't see it. Van Jones doesn't see it. There is a British proverb. There are none so blind as those who will not see. And if you know the Bob Dylan song from my generation Blowing the Wind, how many times can a man turn his head and pretend that he does, just doesn't see Well if the, if the remuneration is enough, many times.

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Well, I think that's also, and I know that you're, you're you, you don't engage much on social media and you also don't even have a cell phone. But I released this week, I sort of waited for everybody to lie, which they did. Of course, they love lying about Charlie Kirk and what he was going through in the end. And I released the text message chain four, eight hours before he died, where he said, they've left me no choice but to abandon the pro is real cause. And I really think that the best per person that put it very plainly, like if you lost Charlie Kirk, who was actually so committed to Israel for him, as in as he started evangelical, evangelical Christian.

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And then he couldn't unsee. And he said explicitly in his message, because of Jewish behavior, and we know what he meant. He didn't mean all Jews in America. It's like that power that we are talking about that happens. And the way they were treating him, as if he was, suddenly he woke up and realized like, I did. Oh, I thought that you guys were supporting me because you were my friends. I thought you supported me because I will pursue the facts. I thought you supported me 'cause you wanted me to have a platform. 'cause I'll speak truth to power. And then when you turned around and realized, whoa, wow, I was just a slave to you, you view me as something other. And for Charlie, I, I think he was realizing at the end, or maybe he never understood it, that if you take the king shilling, you fight the King's War.

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Well, there's a proverb, I, I'm not familiar with that, but there's, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

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And what do you do when you have a not-for-profit? I oh one C3 that has taken millions of dollars. And Bob Schulman was one person who took $2 million away from him instantly if he didn't, you know, start pedaling the correct talking points about Israel. And he was, he was just done in the end. And then, you know, he, he, he died. So it was no longer a problem, but they then rushed to misrepresent and to pretend that that period didn't happen. He literally told Bibi Netanyahu on the phone. No, because they were panicked about losing Charlie. He calls and invites him to Israel. And Charlie said, no. And yet Bebe then rushed to lie, or I guess to not tell the whole truth when he says, I called him two weeks ago and invited him to Israel.

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It's like, and what did he say, Bebe? What did, what did, what did Charlie say back to you? So it's, it is, yeah. You know, we, we see that story playing out right now where you see the fight to make sure that they control people. People that genuinely like me and Charlie, believed that they were just our friends and believed in our mission to just tell the truth no matter what that truth is. Which means that naturally, if you're interested in, committed to truth, your perspectives will change with more information, which is what happened to me. My perspective change because, well, not even more information, just information in general, in large part, thanks to the work that you're doing and people like Dave Smith. And yeah, it really woke me up to what happened there.

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There is the money issue and then the money issue is combined with the wholesale assault, an academic freedom and on freedom of speech. So we'll just take a recent example. There were the several young people. They were what's called non-citizen immigrants here. People like Hali, Mamu kil at Columbia University. And they were rounded up, sent off to strange places in some cases where things like literally writing an op-ed in the tough school newspaper, tough school newspaper.

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That's it. Critical of the administration because of its support of Israel, the facto support of Israel. And it was a week and two weeks ago, a decision came down in Eastern, Eastern District Court on this whole case with these guys, okay? Who were arrested by ice put in strange places. The guy who wrote the decision, his name is Judge Young, he was a Reagan appointee. So we're not talking about Hama supporter, a Reagan appointee. And he wrote 161 page decision and he said non as non citizen immigrants, they have the right to free speech that's in our jurisprudence.

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They have that right. Number two, he said they didn't say anything that crossed any line. They supported the Palestinians. They didn't support Israel. That doesn't, this is America. You have the right to free speech. You yourself might be surprised. Our Supreme Court has ruled you have the right to abdicate the violent overthrow of our government, the violent overthrow of our government. You have that right? That's what our Supreme Court ruled. Our Supreme Court ruled. You have the right to burn the American flag during the war in Vietnam.

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There are a large number of demonstrators, myself included. You may not like it. I'm talking about our laws. We chanted ho ho ho chi mind. The NLF, national Liberation Front is going to win. Nobody got arrested for that. Nobody got pulled up off the street for that. There were literally millions of people chanting things like that. Now, these young people in the encampments, you are chanting things like from the river to the sea. Palestine will be free. I don't like that slogan personally, but that's their right.

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This is America. And the judge ruled Reagan appointee. He's 85 years old, he says, by not letting them speak, rounding them up, sending them off to strange places. He says, quote, you are terrorizing. That's the word he used. You are terrorizing people's right to free speech. He said, when they ice puts on the masks, you know what he said? I'm quoting him word for word. These are cowardly desperados acting like the Ku Klux Klan.

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That's the words he used. Who was behind this assault on our freedom of speech.

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The Trump administration. No,

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The Trump administration. You could say broadly, but on the specific issue of the encampments and Israel and Palestine, that was the Jewish billionaire class.

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The Trump administration. Yeah. So we're in radical agreement. But but

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Remember it began under Biden.

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Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about when he actually Mahmood Khalil. 'cause I followed that case, right? And they were, I was looking at, I was, because I believed in Trump and I voted for Trump. And I agree

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With that part.

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He, they got up there and they pretended he was some terrorist and they lied. And I'm like, but he wasn't. And we were the ones that said that we would fight for free, free speech the

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Hardest. He was actually the mediator

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At Columbia. I know he was the mediator. I know. I followed it. Yeah.

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You know, so it's a wholesale assault on freedom of speech in our society. And it was led by these people, the same billionaire class that

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Cut checks. And this is the problem when you take the money. That's why I say you fight the king's wars. I, I

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Told, I

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Told you, how did Trump get into office? Who cut him the checks? Like who cut him a $100 million check? Miriam Delson. And so the presidency can be bought. Okay. There's no question

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As, yes, I think

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As all things in America, you, there is a certain level where you can purchase outright purchase influence. And it's hard for us to, to recognize that. And I had to really come to terms with that. This was, this has been hard for me as someone who has been a vocal supporter of Trump, truly believed that he sort of beat the billionaire class to get into office. To see him so radically in this term, specifically shift on the, his perspectives of speech. I actually feel watching him pains me to see this administration play twister to explain while we're free speech. But you know, this is different. These are Hamas supporters, all of these psychological games.

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And no, you're not instantly a Hamas supporter if you have questions about what's going on over there. And by the way, they also gaslight us where they're like, totally, then they get to the, you're obsessed with us. It's like, no, you guys were the ones that insisted,

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Totally agree,

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Insisted that we all have a perspective on October 7th. And so when some of us actually said, okay, well let me get educated because maybe let me roll my sleeves up and be radically peris Israel. Then we looked and we pierced that veil. We went, oh my goodness, how was I ever per Israel? And now you want us to shut up now You want our influence gone Now you wanna smear us as Antisemites and Hamas supporters. And it's, it, it really is telling. Well,

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There there are two aspects. Number one, this is America. You're allowed to be a Haas supporter. That's our freedom. I am not a flag waver, but facts are facts. That's what was determined by our Supreme court. And secondly, they're not. Right. I mean, you're correct. They're

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Not. They're not. And even if they were, I know. Yeah,

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Exactly. They're not.

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And even if they were,

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Even if they were, you have, that was what the judge said. The judge said, I disagree with a lot of the the things these people say, but that's their right.

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And I just also wanna say this to just kind of get this off of my chest. 'cause this is what deeply troubles me the most. Going back to your slave analogy, which is actually not an analogy. What it feels like to me when these, and now I, I recognize Jewish supremacists supported me and platformed me when I was attacking BLM because I, I recognized this, this altogether Marxist strand. And I was saying, and I stood up to my my own people, right? My own people. And said, let me tell you why this is not going to work out. Let me tell you granddad's lessons. I wrote an entire book. You're amazing, Candace, let me get you this platform, that platform fly you here. And then when I was like, oh yeah, and I know this is gonna be hard for you, but you guys are now gonna have to stand up to the Jew, get out of here.

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Get out of here. You are gone. You are, are banned from Australia for speech. I mean, think about this. This is crazy. And I'm going, so what was I to you? Actually, I I was never, there was something, there was a difference here. We didn't believe. We didn't, you didn't agree with me principally on BLM stuff. You didn't. Because if the principles held, if you said, I believe in free speech and, and you have to sometimes stand up in your own identity box and say something is wrong. They didn't agree with me, principally that troubles me.

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Yeah, it should trouble you. That's what happened to Glen Lowry. I'll just tell you an anecdote. That's called a October 7th and thereafter anecdote. So I wrote a book having nothing to do with Israel Palestine. It was on Cancel culture, this book. Okay? And Glen, and I was very critical of the cancel culture, the woke phenomenon. I didn't, I didn't agree with it. I strongly disagreed with it. So Glen Lowry has me on.

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Okay? Now remember I said I had given up on Gaza and one of the things I did after I had given up on Gaza was write this book on cancel culture. Totally different subject. So Glenn Lowery has me on truth be told, I didn't wanna talk about Gaza. I didn't wanna talk about Israel Palestine. I had left it behind speaking factually, not proudly. I left it behind. So Glenn Lowry, Ry says, he begins to show, it's under YouTube, you could see it. He begins to show by saying, I would be remiss in my responsibility if I didn't ask you about your views on Israel Palestine.

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I didn't bring up the subject. He brought up the subject. Anybody curious? Go watch the program. I had no intention whatsoever of talking about it. He brought it up. So he asked me my opinions, I expressed them. And then we went on to talk about the book. Okay? Next week he does a program. Doesn't tell me anything. He and John Mcw, they devote about 20 or 30 minutes. I didn't watch the whole thing. It was kind of too painful. Not because of what they said about me, but the s smartness.

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The fact that they didn't alert me to what they were going to do. You know, the African American spiritual scandalized, my name. I gave my brother my right of hand. And as soon as ever my back was turned, he scandalized my name. That's how I feel. Do you call that a brother? No, no. Behind my back, they start to psychoanalyze me. John Horter. I mean, he knew me for the length and breadth of the program. And what happens after October 7th, Glen gets pressure, have to talk about what's happening here.

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And he has on OER Bartow, who is a senior scholar, says Israel's committing genocide. What happens? The Manhattan Institute pulls the plug. Wow, you didn't know that? Oh, I'm surprised he didn't have a U on. Yeah, they pulled the plug, lost all the money. So on this, you know, John Mcw, he says every day these poor Jewish students, they have to hear all of this antisemitism at Columbia University. So just as a factual matter, all this antisemitism, first of all, legally, even if they were being antis right, they have the right.

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But is there any truth to it? So the most substantial report on the subject came out from Harvard, 314 pages alleging antisemitism. I read the report, I don't see anything. I said, you know, probably miss something that happens. I reread it, actually, I see less. It's what Brianna Joy Gray would call a nothing burger. Mm. There's nothing there. So you try to figure out, here's the question. How could you fill 314 pages in antisemitism at Harvard when if you actually read the report, there's nothing there.

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Evidence of antisemitism. There's nothing. So then you see the trick. There's a little verbal trick. The trick is they say quote, for the purposes of this report, we are going to define antisemitism as time Jews, Jewish students in particular. They said Israeli Jewish students. Every time they feel that they're being excluded in the classroom or being excluded in extracurricular activities, or they're being excluded in social life, that's going to be the definition of antisemitism.

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Well, what does that mean de facto? So there are all these Israelis who are coming over to Harvard after serving in Gaza. Right? And you are commanded now by Harvard in the name of what they call inclusiveness and pluralism. You have to pal around with them. And if you don't pal around with them, you're an anti-Semite. That's literally, I am not a exaggerating. A jut

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If you don't, so you don't wanna be friends with murderers. Exactly. You're an anti-Semite if

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You don't wanna, well, maybe

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I, if that's the new definition. Right.

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If you don't wanna

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Hang, maybe I've been an antisemite my whole life. Right?

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Wanna guess. They're saying, if you want, if you don't wanna hang around with child killers Yeah, you're an anti-Semite. Mm. If you

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Don't, if you don't like Jeffrey Epstein, I mean, if you're like Jeffrey Epstein, you're an antisemite. I feel like you had abuse children also. I get, I get what we're doing. Alpha definition. Yeah. Okay. So yeah.

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So it's, it's essentially a command coming from the top down that we have to normalize child killers. We have to say, okay, Candace is, when she applied to Harvard, she had worked in a food kitchen and she put that in her personal statement. And Joe here, he helped build a sanitation system in the Congo. And then there is Yaakov Yaakov killed children in gossip. No, really? And we're supposed to treat all three as the same in the name of inclusiveness and pluralism.

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Now, that to me is a dictionary definition of insanity. I had a long exchange with a person I count as a friend. I like him very much. A Cornell West. It was a public exchange. And another woman who I absolutely like, her name is Nadine Stren, the former executive director of the ACL U. And we got into, I wouldn't, there was no animus hostility. But it was intense because Dr. West's argument was, if we excluded everybody who had blood in their hands or who propagated ideas that cause blood to be on your hands, he said that would inclu exclude a large part of the Harvard faculty.

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You know, their advisors to governments, and they write books which influenced public opinion. He said, that's a slippery slope if you start that kind of exclusion. And Nadine Strasson, she said that we have to invite everybody because the only way you can get the truth is hearing out all opinions. And I, I have to say that they can defend themselves and they did in the course of the exchange.

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But to me, 'cause I do tend to like yourself, I, I gather, I do tend to personalize things. So let's say after World War ii, there's a Nazi concentration Camp Guard because those, those are perfectly ordinary people who were guards in the camp. And one of them is an ex, an exchange student at Harvard. Perfectly possible. Okay, now you're telling me I should pal around with him

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If you don't wanna be called an anti,

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Anti,

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Anti-German. Yeah, yeah.

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I should be inclusive.

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Well, nobody was more inclusive of the, of the Nazis than the American CIA with Operation Paperclip and just giving them new identities. But yeah. Well, but when it's convenient, they want you to forget everything someone does when it's not convenient. Don't ever forget what this person has done or who their family and grandfather is.

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Totally.

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And a drop of a hat. They decide. Totally

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Agree. But you know what? That's not me. And I don't believe that's Dr. West. And I don't believe it's Nadine Johnson. I believe that in the real world, if they had to confront that situation, they wouldn't pal around with them. No. You know, of course they wouldn't. And that was the, the command at the end of this 314 page report that you have to be inclusive of the Israeli Jewish students. We have to be pluralistic. No.

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Which by the way, one of the most offensive,

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They called it, they called it, you have to stop shunning them. Mm. That's the word.

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I'm actually s comfortable shunning murderers. Totally. I am. Tell me whatever you need to call me. That's why I always say, you gotta get over their game of ad hominin attacks. Because if we've gotta be called names, not hang out with murderers, we gotta get comfortable with that real fast. Yeah,

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That's, that's exactly, you gotta get comfortable real fast with murderers. No, no. That was the antisemitism a large, a large, I wouldn't, certainly not a majority, but a significant number of the campus protestors were Jewish. How is it that they didn't detect this rampant antisemitism?

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2 (1h 33m 2s):
So I wanted to actually, because one of your books and this and, and this one I have not read is called The Holocaust Industry. I wanna talk about the Holocaust and please allow me to be offensive. As I've been learning a lot about the Holocaust and why it is such a precious area where you are not allowed, there's no incursion, there's no, you can't ask a question. You can't. Even if, if I said, you know what, I think it was 5 million. Forget it. I mean, it's, it, it is very a precious and protective. And as I've be sort of began reading more books, I I do have a theory, and you may be offended by this theory, you can push back on it. But particularly, I felt even more confirmed in this theory.

2 (1h 33m 43s):
Are you familiar with Nicholas Gruner? No. Okay. So Nicholas Gruner was an actual Auschwitz camp survivor. He was on the march, same march as your parents were on your father. Yeah. Your father was on. And he wrote a book in Yiddish about his experiences. And there was a a, I'm sorry. Hi. His friend who was with him on this walk, who he wanted to reunite walk, wrote this book in Yiddish. And when he found out that his, his friend, I wrote this book and it had been translated into English, he went to go meet him, right? And it was like, I'm, I'm gonna be reunited with somebody that lives in this camp with me. He gets to up to shaking this person's hand. And he's like, you've taken on the identity. This, this, you're not the real survivor.

2 (1h 34m 24s):
That person whose hand he's shocked was Ellie, Ellie Wetzel. You might be familiar with him because he wrote the book night and it was proven that he lied about certain parts of it. Nobody knew why, what this was. And so he then spent the rest of his life, Nicholas Gruner, dedicated to telling people that this man was effectively a gypsy who stole the identity of a real person. And he said he rolled up, Nicholas rolled up his sleep. He's like, we all have tattoos. He's not gonna have one. 'cause he's not the real guy. This guy took his identity. Well, it turns out that Ellie White, weso wa was a cousin to Robert Maxwell. Right? Fascinating. Right? Absolutely fascinating. Robert, Robert Maxwell wrote about it in his own book, his his authorized biography. And we know Robert Maxwell obviously, who everything about there is know about him.

2 (1h 35m 7s):
And I, I was fascinated by this idea that there were people who were stealing the identity, whether dead or alive of people who had actually been in the Auschwitz camps building on their stories in whatever way. And it's sad that nobody knows Nicholas Bruner's name. People should know his name because he, he, it was a, it was, it was a, a, a valent fight. And he, to the, to the very end said, there are people who are stealing our identities. And I go, I've got this feeling that that happened a lot more than we think it happened. This is one guy. And by the way, Robert Maxwell then purchased a massive stake early on in, in McGraw publishing McGraw Hill, which means that, and then his wife was traveling around with Ellie Wetzel.

2 (1h 35m 48s):
And this guy was like, this was not prisoner number, whatever it was, he took his identity. And that's a really terrifying thing to think about that people with power saw, okay, these people were in camps, maybe they par, they perished. We can take their identities, take their stories, whatever it is. He never found out what happened to his friend. He assumes he died sometime after the camp. And he did write, it was his friend who wrote the manuscript in Yiddish. And, and then Ellie Wezel adopted that. And now we have today, as you determine a holocaust industry, I'd like you to describe that. But just what I'm telling you, I mean, is that, isn't that just the most terrifying thing ever?

0 (1h 36m 25s):
We don't really know each other and we're having a serious conversation now. And we should try to parse it. Just mean, analyze it carefully.

2 (1h 36m 39s):
Yeah.

0 (1h 36m 40s):
So lemme give you, as I understand it, the situation, not just from family history, but from having read quite a lot in the subject. At a certain point in my life, having read quite a lot, I would say almost obsessively because of my family history and having written on aspects of it, the estimates are, there was an extermination campaign by the Nazis. We don't know. Two main questions remain open. Two questions remain open. The the two questions that remain open are, when, when did it begin?

0 (1h 37m 20s):
That still is an ambiguous area. When did this Nazi extermination can be actually begin n Nazi extermination plan. And we still don't know with any kind of certainty why, what was Hitler's exact motive at that point? So the when and the why they remain gray areas. Now, I have to bear for people who are listening, I have to be careful. I stopped reading about the subject about 20 years ago. Mm. So there may be new scholarship, which supersedes what I have just said. But that's it. Here are the two crucial facts.

0 (1h 38m 0s):
One, I don't consider it crucial. The estimates by the best historians are between 5.2 and 5.4 million Jews were killed. It doesn't make much of a difference. Let's say it was, it wasn't, well, let's say it was 3 million. That doesn't make it better, obviously. Okay? But the estimates are between 5.2 and 5.4. Now, coming to your question, the Nazi extermination was very efficient. You can use a slur and say it was done with German efficiency.

0 (1h 38m 43s):
And to some extent there's a truth to that. You know what makes a cliche? A cliche is it's most of the time true. What is a generalization? A generalization is something that's generally true. What's a stereotype? A stereotype is a generalization that you don't like. If you say Jews are smart people, Jews like that generalization. If you say something else about Jews, that's a stereotype. But the Germans ca carried out the Nazi extermination with great efficiency. Why is that important? There were very few survivors.

0 (1h 39m 24s):
Now Candace, I'm not trying to, I don't have an ax to grind. I'm just telling you factually, you take my mother, she had two sisters and a brother. They were exterminated. She had a mother and father. They were exterminated. My father, I don't know the details, but I know for sure he had one sister and one brother. These are taboo subjects in my home. Can't talk about that. So I don't know the details. I know they were wiped out. One of the reasons I wasn't Bar Mitzvah, I did not have a bar mitzvah.

0 (1h 40m 5s):
And do you know why? I mean, there are many reasons. Some appear my parents were resolute atheists. Mm. But one of the reasons was there was no one to invite. You see, a Bar Mitzvah is a big family event. The cousins, the aunts, the uncles, and so forth. Of course, the person being Bar mitzvah invites his or her friends. Well, it's his friends being the person being bar mitzvah or bat Mitzvah. But the big thing, it's a family occasion. There was no one to invite. There was no one to invite because the Nazi extermination was very efficient. So the estimates are at the end of World War ii, the estimates are l less than a hundred thousand.

0 (1h 40m 51s):
Less than a hundred thousand Jews survived the Nazi Holocaust, less than a hundred thousand. So that means where did all these survivors come from? Everybody claims there was a period when the Holocaust industry was in full, was very lucrative. There was a period where everybody claimed to be a Holocaust survivor. Yeah,

2 (1h 41m 24s):
That's kind of what I'm getting at.

0 (1h 41m 25s):
Yeah. They all claimed to be Holocaust survivors. They weren't Holocaust survivors. There was a person who

2 (1h 41m 33s):
I, I actually think they were, but IIII fear they were survivors of another Holocaust that was going on at the same time. And they may have been in part executing it, which is a question that Alexander Soji, so Soni thein rights, which is where did all the Bolsheviks go? And I think, and this is again, a theory while we're allowed to think, well, this is a good opportunity right now to take on the identity of people who perished and just rewrite history of ourselves as the victims. And when I saw that Nicholas Gruner story, I was like, that's so terrifying because it's required reading. Coming up in schools. You have to read the story. I I, there's tons of Holocaust people that we, we'd be reading your books talking about your parents and what they lived through.

2 (1h 42m 17s):
And they picked this man. And

0 (1h 42m 19s):
I, there was, look, I I will get to the ILI Weil. This I, I know. Well, in fact, I'm not trying to promote the book. It came out 25 years ago. But I write a lot about ILI Weo in the book. Okay. So I remember my father, we both knew a person who had the tattoo. The only place there were tattoos were Auschwitz Auschwitz. It was the only camp where they had the tattoos. And I said to my father about this person. And my father had a tattoo. I always knew the number. It was like, oh 2 8 1 2 8, something like that. I had memorized the number, but now I've forgotten it.

0 (1h 43m 0s):
I said to my father, I said, do you think he was in Auschwitz? And my father said, no. And my father was not a conspiracy person. Yeah, no. He just said, very matter of factly nonjudgmentally. He just said, no. And I said to my father, I asked my father, so where'd he get the number? And my father said, I'm quoting him now. He said, well, after the war, some people took it off and some people put it on. But he didn't say It's a joke. Yeah.

2 (1h 43m 31s):
He was just, just

0 (1h 43m 31s):
Like, this is, yeah. My father was

2 (1h 43m 33s):
Incentive here is to have one. Yes. Yeah. It's, it's bad. It's incentive, it's incentive culture. Obviously. I talk about this welfare. If you're gonna incentive bad behavior, people are gonna do it.

0 (1h 43m 43s):
Yes. I I, I, without going into that, 'cause I was on tangent, but yes. And my father said very matter of, so my mother used to get very frustrated because even more so than my father, she could never let go of what happened to her family. She couldn't let go. And there was something that really more than graded on her when people who didn't pass through what she passed through claimed to have passed through it. And she once ex exclaimed in a kind of bitter irony, she said, if everybody who claims to be a Holocaust survivor actually is one who did Hitler kill.

0 (1h 44m 40s):
So everybody's claiming to be a Holocaust survivor. There are very few, a handful survived that ordeal. Now,

2 (1h 44m 51s):
Especially, particularly in Auschwitz, because there's so many. Were like, well, I was, you said the tattoo, there

0 (1h 44m 56s):
Were, there were all the, all the death, all the, there were the death camps, and then there were the concentration camp death camps. There were both work camps and, and Auschwitz and Madan. I, I once spoke to the world's leading authority in the Nazi Holocaust. Raul Hilberg was very kind to me. He was like, he was of your political persuasion. He was a right wing Republican. He swore by the Wall Street Journal. I was at the other end of the spectrum and I was a total pariah. However, don't ask me why, because I've never really understood it. He kept defending me.

0 (1h 45m 38s):
I was always very nervous around him. I didn't wanna say anything wrong because he was kind of my savior. He was saying that what Finkelstein is writing is true. And when the tenure battle erupted at the Pool university, he gave this very moving defense of me. And he said that, I told the truth, it was at a very big price. He said, but he said in the history of those writing about history, Finkelstein's Place is secure.

0 (1h 46m 22s):
In any event, I once asked him, he lived in Vermont. He taught at the University of Vermont. He was very much his own person, so he could never get a job at a top university. He said very few women survived Mi the neck. That's where my mother was. Very few people. So it was worse, actually, the women's section was worse than at Auschwitz. In any event, once the Holocaust industry became an industry, they were very picky about who they promoted.

0 (1h 47m 9s):
Now, ILI Wezel was a fanatical supporter of Israel. He was fanatically pro anything that any American government would say. And so he was, became the spokesperson for the Holocaust as his personal history, I'm just going to give you the details as I understand them. Okay. He claims he was in Auschwitz. He claimed that he was in Auschwitz. And he describes, in the book night, he describes some scenes, which Raul Hilberg, Raul Hilberg, the person I mentioned to you from the person who defended me, and the reasons which still remain except integrity, you know, which is so rare.

0 (1h 47m 59s):
He was the chief historian for the Holocaust memorial in Washington. Eli Wezel personally picked him because Wezel knew, he knew his stuff. And he said there were certain scenes that Wezel describes in night that occurred at Auschwitz. Wizel Hilberg said they could not have happened. They could not,

2 (1h 48m 32s):
Without question. They didn't happen. So you read Nicholas Gruner. Yeah.

0 (1h 48m 35s):
So when Wezel was confronted with Hilberg saying they happened, he doubled down and said they did happen. Wezel I speak to, I knew some, not many, I knew some first rank Holocaust historians. And they told me he was deported in 40, 19 44 from Hungary. That was one of the last deportations from Hungary. And he may be passed through Auschwitz un route to a labor camp. That may have happened according to the people I talked to.

0 (1h 49m 19s):
But there was clearly, if you, I discuss it at some length in that little book, Wezel figures, not in a cameo robe. He has a major, he's a star of the Holocaust industry.

2 (1h 49m 32s):
Yeah, I I mean I I I'm glad that I put Nicholas Gruner on your radar because he just knew the guy. He literally stole his an entity. I mean, it's like, its, it's, it's a crazy, I I, I remember he knew him because, you know, obviously when you're in a camp together, and he was like, just so excited to meet, to Remeet this someone who had had this experience with him and described the march everything and you know, the soles of his feet. And he just was like, he's, what he did was the real person wrote the manuscript. And this gypsy just took on his identity. And when he describes that moment of being on the plane, what am I gonna say to him? Like, we haven't seen each other. And then like, could you imagine being confronted and going, you are not. Wait a second. You're not norm Finkelstein. You're not norm. And that is, and they said that he had cameras ready and they like shook hands.

2 (1h 50m 13s):
And then he even said, what's even crazier is the real Holocaust survivor spoke Hungarian.

0 (1h 50m 20s):
Well, that is true.

2 (1h 50m 21s):
And Eli couldn't speak Hungarian at this time when this happened. And so he starts, he's like, he says, let's speak in English. It's an incredible, it's just an incredible thing to comprehend that. And I think my, the best that I can guess is that you had these psychopaths, like, you know, true Bolshevik psychopaths who were like, well, we can't just walk in and be like, well, you know, I was just kind running the Bolshevik camp over here, mass murder and Christians. So what better way to rein yourself into, into society than to be like, Hmm, I'm, I'm the ultimate victim. I survived the Auschwitz camp. I think that's what happened. I think they laundered their, their they laundered through. And that's why there's so much confusion and people like, you're denying that any, that people died here. Because there's some people that were like, well, nothing ever happened.

2 (1h 51m 2s):
You know, and it's like, no, something definitely you read this guy Nicholas Gruner, and you're like, this happened. And there are some people who never lived a day in their lives of that. And I say Ellie Wee till's, one of them who took their personalities, took their identities full on gypsy. I,

0 (1h 51m 19s):
I actually, regrettably, I read a lot on the Ely Bizel case. And I, I tend to defer to Berg's judgment. And I think the judgment that there were in his so-called memoir, there were fabricated scenes is correct. However, I also believe that, you know, when you explore any concrete situation, any concrete situation, there are going to be things that are inexplicable. You just can't explain how or why that happened.

0 (1h 52m 3s):
And you have to accept that in any historical reconstruction, there are going to be in inexplicable enigmatic phenomenon. And I think in the case of the Nazi Holocaust, it's sort of like the flat earth society. When you want to deny a certain phenomenon, of course you have the right to deny it. That's as to, to deny a person. The right to deny is what the great British philosopher John Stewart Mill called the presumption of infallibility that you know the truth and nobody else can know the truth.

0 (1h 52m 55s):
No, we're fallible creatures, we're capable of error. And we always have to leave some corner of our mind open to the possibility that our deepest, most sacred beliefs are foundational beliefs. Could be wrong, could be wrong. Yep. Could be wrong. However, if you are like in the flat Earth society and you say the world is not round, in order to be credible, you have to respond to the mountain of evidence that's accumulated, that shows the world is round.

0 (1h 53m 45s):
You have the right to say the earth is flat. But you also, if you are responsible, have to respond to a massive accumulation of evidence. To the contrary, if you can't respond to it or don't respond to it, in my opinion, you're not entitled to be taken seriously.

2 (1h 54m 10s):
Yeah. You're just a fraud.

0 (1h 54m 11s):
Yeah, fine. You're just a fraud. We agree. So my parents could be iconoclastic, they could be very bitter. By the way, the Nazi Holocaust has been not just misused, but weaponized to justify all sorts of things, which in many places are not just deplorable but abominations.

0 (1h 54m 52s):
However, in all their anger and indignation, which was transmitted to me in the, it never would have occurred to them to deny the horror that they endured. So when I wrote the Little book, the Holocaust Industry, which caused me a lot of public grief and defamation,

2 (1h 55m 32s):
Which means it's a must read, I know what that means. It's a must read.

0 (1h 55m 37s):
When I, when I wrote the book I book, I was always very clear from day one, I am not writing about the Nazi Holocaust. That's not what this book is about. There are many people with a vast knowledge of the subject. I have only a tiny a comparison, a tiny amount of knowledge of the subject. This book is about how the Nazi Holocaust was, as if you can read the subtitle,

2 (1h 56m 15s):
Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering.

0 (1h 56m 19s):
Yes. It's about how a horrendous event was exploited. And the exploitation now has reached the point that it makes people so angry at Howard's being exploited in the most, in the cheapest, most vulgar. And also not speaking as a person who's not religious, but sinful ways to say, justify the genocide, justifying the genocide in Gaza that it causes people to then wanna deny it ever happened.

0 (1h 57m 5s):
I believe we have to make the distinction it happened, but also the way has been manipulated, exploited, weaponized has also happened. Both of those things happened. Just like as I discussed with people. I was on the program with Breonna Joy Gray a few days ago. I said, when you start talking about Jews and money, it very easily feeds, feeds a stereotype.

0 (1h 57m 45s):
However, it's also true, there's a problem here. A billion billionaire class of Jewish supremacists are now flagrantly brazenly using money as a black male weapon to silence not just criticism of Jews, but silence, criticism of an ongoing genocide as we speak. And we have to address that also. Now, it's very hard to address it without feeding the stereotype,

2 (1h 58m 30s):
But I think it's, and that's why it's so important for me to constantly be addressing Jewish Americans, because something that they're very good at doing is pretending that there's no differences. Like that's, that's identity politics. Like you're, you're Jewish, therefore this is your history. Therefore this is, this is how you should be responding to this. And that gives them so much power. So it's very important to study the Bolsheviks. Right. Because that means at the same time, you had Jewish people who were suffering actually, and legitimately, and you had Jewish psychopaths, okay. Who were mass murdering Henrik Jagoda. Okay. Mass murdering Christians. The same thing is happening right now. Okay? You have, you have literal psychopaths, and I would describe them as Zionists.

2 (1h 59m 13s):
Okay? Zionists psychopaths who are happy to oversee the slaughter of children. Some people who I think actually look happy when you talk about it, it's, it's so disturbing spiritually to see people who can joke about suffering and things of that nature. And then you have people who are dealing with the kickback of those people who don't have platforms who are being treated as if, and it's because both of everybody around the world needs to understand it is possible for you. You can be any identity and to have multiple things going on at once. And I truly believe that the, the Zionist ideology is an evil. It is a, it is, it is a, this i, this idea that you are, it is a, it's an evil because it's a supremacist ideology that says you can trample over anybody's rights as long as it is like, you know, you serve Israel.

2 (1h 59m 60s):
And, and that's what I have seen in my experience is that even people who I thought were fundamentally good when it came down to it turned into and celebrated the death of children because those children were Palestinian and were not Israeli. And, and it's shocking. It, it still continues to shock me to recognize that

0 (2h 0m 19s):
I, I, I wanna just say a couple of things. Candidates, you don't know me from a hole in the wall, and I barely know you. It's just a fact. Yeah. I'm not a web person. I've said that I am from the left tradition. You are from the right, the right. And my reading of say, Russian history is gonna be radically different than your own. And I have to say that because there'll be people who after watching this, say, well, didn't Finkelstein say that he is actually a supporter of Lenin and Trotsky and all those people? Are you

2 (2h 0m 53s):
Trotskyite?

0 (2h 0m 53s):
Right? I wasn't acho, but I was in that, certainly within that trajectory. Mm, for sure. And then I still am, I'm an old man, but I still am. But having said that and setting the record straight, I, I think you are correct that there are aspects of what's going on now that are just hugely ugly. You know, take a simple example, A simple example. You use a computer, right?

0 (2h 1m 35s):
And sometimes, I don't know nowadays with computers, but sometimes you can work on something for three hours. You remember the day, and then you can lose everything. Mm. You press the wrong key. Everything is gone. Now they have backups and backups, but I don't know how to use them. So I lose whenever. Okay. And then you lose something that you worked on for three hours. Okay? And you think it's the end of the world. Oh my God, oh my God, I lost, I worked on it for three hours. Oh my God. You lose three hours worth of information, a work and information.

0 (2h 2m 17s):
And then you, you're in Gaza. This is not being done behind the scenes. These are Israeli soldiers posting on the social media, their ecstasy and their euphoria. When they blow up Palestinian homes, not three hours on your computer, your whole life is vaporized. And they're thrilled. They're thrilled. You know, they have what's called in Gaza controlled demolitions. That's

2 (2h 2m 53s):
What's, everything has happened since October 7th has been a controlled demolition.

0 (2h 2m 57s):
Can you, I agree with you. Everything has been with intent to use the words of the 1948 Genocide Convention. It's intent to destroy a people. Okay, just one step further. They go into neighborhoods where there's no humas, there's no nothing. They just calmly rope off the area and then detonate whole neighborhoods. Yeah. Now,

2 (2h 3m 27s):
Because they're gonna turn it into a beach town.

0 (2h 3m 29s):
Well, they want to, they said over and over again, Jared

2 (2h 3m 33s):
Kushner's on camera saying it, we're,

0 (2h 3m 34s):
We're, yeah, we're going to make ga this is, they said over and over again, we're going to make Gaza unlivable. So you'll have two choices to stay and starve or to leave. That's why all this talk now about the Trump plant is so silly. There's nothing there. You know, 95% of the homes 95 have been vaporized.

2 (2h 4m 6s):
I thought that it was 85. So it's up to 95.

0 (2h 4m 8s):
No, it was 92% before the assaults on Rafa and Gaza City. So now it's about 95%. There is 50 million tons of rubble. The main agencies, un and international humanitarian agencies, they say that it'll take until the year 2050 to clear away the rubble, because the rubbles mixed in with all of these toxic substances like asbestos and also unexploded ordinance. So they did, they, you know, everyone says, well, Netanyahu didn't achieve his goal.

0 (2h 4m 53s):
Actually he did achieve, yes, he did.

2 (2h 4m 54s):
Of course he did. I mean,

0 (2h 4m 55s):
He said, we would, we will make Gaza unlivable

2 (2h 4m 60s):
A reason, either

0 (2h 5m 1s):
Stay and starve or leave. He achieved his fundamental goal. Now, he was hoping for a stampede of them leaving or incentivized to leave by the relentless bombing and artillery firing. But now they're leaving in a trickle, because there's nothing to go back to. There's nothing there. It's been pulverized. So

2 (2h 5m 30s):
One of the things I wanna say that I find to be especially dark about the Gaza situation.

0 (2h 5m 33s):
No, I just wanted Yeah, complete the th So what you are saying when you say that they're actually happy about it, that's not a speculative pronouncement by you. They posted it and they still do. They post it on their social media, what they're doing as they do it. That's a fact. You can't get, you know, when you read a lot of the human rights reports and the reports by genocide experts, a lot of you know what their evidence is. They're citing the social media, what the Israelis post,

2 (2h 6m 16s):
It's really dark, the videos, it's

0 (2h 6m 18s):
Very dark.

2 (2h 6m 18s):
It's very dark. And, and you see something in their eyes. That's what I always say. Like the eyes are the window to the soul. There, there is a, that's why I say it's, it's demonic force that rules that, that nothing, I don't care who the child was. If I saw a child suffering, I have a natural spiritual response to that. I don't care if that child is Arab, Jewish, black, white, it doesn't matter. They don't have that. Instead they're, I agree, they don't. It's like, and you see it even in the commentators or Zionists, it's like they're, they're trying not to crack a smile and a joke about how how many of these kids have been killed. It's, it's, it's, it's really disturbing. But I have to see God in this, which is, is just to say that what is happening in Gaza has awakened the world, and America is the best evidence of that.

2 (2h 6m 60s):
Because we were the most asleep and we were like zombies on the Israel issue. Yeah, of course. There's where Israel, it's sizes, the New Jersey, why can't you know all the talking points? And there has been this sort of radical reaction. And, and so that tells us that people, when they are armed with facts and knowledge are fundamentally good. You know, they're fundamentally good. And, and we're fighting back. And it's hard. And there are people that are selling out. I think, I think truth is winning. I think,

0 (2h 7m 24s):
I believe truth is winning. And we have to, I think, credited to two reasons. One is a horrible reason to credit Israel was conducting a genocide in broad daylight. Right? It was very hard to conceal. But number two, it was because a large number of media outlets in particular on the web were out of control. And now there is a retrenchment, an attempt to control TikTok control, CBS, news, control, CNN. They're trying to now methodically gain control, again, of, as the expression has it gain control of the narrative.

0 (2h 8m 13s):
And there's a real problem on our college campuses right now. There are students, professors, in fact, tenured professors are terrified of saying anything supportive of the Palestinians are critical of the Israel. You remember in the spring of 2024, there were all the encampments, and you know what the next, a whole academic, a whole academic year passed without anything. It was like this eerie silence had descended under college campuses because the students were terrified.

0 (2h 8m 59s):
Mm. And so the media, academia, they're trying to regain control right now. And so I believe that people have, in particular, in the college campuses, have to find, you know, like you said earlier, it takes a lot of courage. You know, there were a lot of students who were suspended because of the encampments. They weren't allowed to attend graduation because of the encampments. And then if you were a foreign student, you were rounded up because of the encampment.

0 (2h 9m 41s):
That's, it does require courage. But

2 (2h 9m 44s):
I want, I also wanna remind people when you think that that requires courage, is imagine being someone in Gaza right now, our it's such a small price to pay, in my opinion. I, I And was it scary? Yeah. I'm not gonna pretend like last year was easy for me and my family, but we were, we were, me and my husband were so committed to truth that we were just like, whatever comes, whatever cost comes you, you are now in that challenge. And people say, what would you have done? We are finding out right now what people would've done when faced with the genocide. You know, do you turn the other way? Do you accept the money? Do you continue to be a part of the apparatus of the academia, which lies routinely? That's why I say people should read Thomas Soul. And he will tell you that every bad idea comes from academia, that comes from the cult of academia.

2 (2h 10m 27s):
They will always publish the books and lie about what's happening. And it's because actually it's always been controlled. So we're trying to achieve academics when in reality, it's a small club. And you gotta have the right perspectives is if you wanna stay in it, no matter how accomplished or if you're brighter. And I, I, I really challenge people to recognize that. So you are talking about maybe losing, you know, money, you

0 (2h 10m 50s):
Know, for a young person. I, I try to be sympathetic for a young person. It is a big price. No, it's not the price of Gaza, but the parents are shelling out a large amount of money in that place. That's

2 (2h 11m 7s):
Money. Money can't be a ruler.

0 (2h 11m 9s):
I school costs about $80,000 a year now for a student. And then if you saw places like Harvard, it wasn't just your college, they were blacklisting them at loss firms. As in they said, literally, we're not talking again poetry. We are going to get a list of names of everybody in those encampments. They will never get a job at our law firm. That's what they were being told. They'll never get a job,

2 (2h 11m 43s):
Which is good.

0 (2h 11m 44s):
Well,

2 (2h 11m 45s):
I think I'm gonna tell you, I put the pressure on their parents, not on the kids. I don't want, I say if this is happening, this is, we, we have to be ahead of them. I wanna, so we need to establish our own law firms. If your kid got into Harvard, they're the cream of the crop. Great. The problem is, is that we are stepping into where they can control the entire plantation. When we have what it takes to create our own stuff, we to be innovative. It's,

0 (2h 12m 3s):
It's not for me. It's not for me to tell them. You see, they have the right to choose their own future, and they're being denied it. You know what they did at Harvard, these creepy organizations, they did not only have what were called doxing trucks, where they went around Harvard and they posted pictures of the students and calling them terrorists. And then that was crazy. You know what else they did? I, you wouldn't even believe it if I told you

2 (2h 12m 34s):
I would,

0 (2h 12m 36s):
They took the trucks and they went to their parents' homes.

2 (2h 12m 40s):
Yeah, I did hear that. And I, I commented on that

0 (2h 12m 42s):
Like 500 miles away. So I have to put No, we have to try to step in the shoes of others.

2 (2h 12m 49s):
Oh, I'm not saying they don't have a right to be traumatized by those events.

0 (2h 12m 52s):
No, but I'm saying my parents, if a truck was going up and down their block saying, Norman Finkelstein is a terrorist, my parents would kill me. It would kill me. Yeah.

2 (2h 13m 6s):
Whatcha

0 (2h 13m 6s):
Doing?

2 (2h 13m 7s):
Yeah, but I, I think now, so the point of this that I, and I, what you do, my platform to say is, parents toughen up. Okay? Because the people that are doing this are psychological terrorists. That's the reason they're doing this, is to give you that embarrassment. They have the money to embarrass you. They have the money to blacklist you. But what that actually reveals is a fundamental problem in the system that you can be punished for doing and saying the right thing. It means we've gotta change it. Like I I say to parents, pull your kids out of these schools, and I'm so happy that homeschooling is happening. Why do your kids wanna go to, to Harvard? Right? Well, because they say, this is the best school. We'll give you all this networks. We, we, we, and they do, they have access. They have a network. You're more likely to get a job. But I'm saying that like it's going to take us being bold for us to crash this system that says Norm Finkelstein can't be tenured.

2 (2h 13m 53s):
Okay? But Barry Weiss can be the president of CBS. We are going to have to be the radicals. This is what I say. We have the, we, it's, we have a very small window of opportunity here, right before they start coming for speech in America, which they're trying to do. I believe that. And so we have to be

0 (2h 14m 8s):
Literally

2 (2h 14m 9s):
Be

0 (2h 14m 10s):
A change. I've

2 (2h 14m 10s):
Said that. I pulled my kids outta school.

0 (2h 14m 11s):
I totally agree. I totally agree with you. There is an assault right now going on against freedom of speech, which is a real problem.

2 (2h 14m 20s):
So when I see a kid that's being put on one of their lists, like there's this account where they say anti-Semite of the week, and now they're doing like 22 year olds. I said, Hey guys, this is now Forbes 30 under 30. We should be hiring. As soon as we see these kids that are being put on this list, and this Harvard person did this. I'm like, can I hire her? That's my mindset, right? You have a business that's our Forbes 30 under 30, and that's the best way to look at it. But

0 (2h 14m 44s):
You recognize that's a very minority mindset,

2 (2h 14m 48s):
And I don't think it's anymore. I mean, looking at the staggering rates of people, and that's why they're now trying to pass laws. People are listening. I'm telling you, we're gonna be encouraged. You always have to be encouraged. I agree with that by the fight that they're putting up. And I'm not, I'm not throwing 'em mental. I think, I think we're, I think we're winning and they're scared. That's why they're becoming more

0 (2h 15m 4s):
Radical. Yeah. That part I, that part I agree with. Yeah.

2 (2h 15m 6s):
So we say, okay, we'll adapt. You say our kids can't go to that school. You say, our kids are gonna be put on lists. We're gonna treat these lists as you're highlighting these, these students, not the actual ones that are, you know, radical and beating people up, but I'm saying

0 (2h 15m 19s):
The

2 (2h 15m 19s):
Ones who are harmless and using their right of free speech and getting buses outside, I wanna hire that kid there,

0 (2h 15m 24s):
There, they're really, look, I totally agree with you. I, I have looked very carefully. There were beatings going on in places like UCLA, that's when UCLA supporters of Israel attacked the encampments. It wasn't the students. Students, you know, a lot of the students, they were from abroad. They recognize their limits here and they recognize don't cross certain lines. So I was at places like MIT, they were just so decent. And a lot of the professors, you know, the professors wanted, they were too old to sit in encampments.

0 (2h 16m 7s):
You know, Woodstock is over, we're handing towards social security. So they sent food. So much food. You know, there was such a festive warm feeling there. And then when I hear John Mcw, who teaches at Columbia saying, oh, the poor Jewish students, they had to hear day in and day out, anti-Semitism. Whatcha talking about? That never happened. Harvard, a 314 page report, they said the clearest example of anti-Semitism. The clearest was a student who was trying to, who was at an encampment and got beaten up.

0 (2h 16m 51s):
That's what they write in the report. And then if you read in yesterday's New York Times, you know what actually happened? It was an Israeli student who came up to the encampment, and he was photographing it and videotaping it. And the folks in the encampment got nervous that they were going to be, you know, it's the younger people's expression. I don't use it doxing. They were afraid because of those trucks going around, that he was filming them to dox them. We call them my day to blacklist them. Mm.

0 (2h 17m 31s):
But your generation called your, was in the younger generation called it dosing. And so they held up their kafis to block him from filming. And then there was some moment where he might have been tapped. Mm. He might have been tapped. One of the demonstrators said on the back of his book bag. And he did not file police charges for assault or anything like that. He did not. Then his father, who's the Israeli counsel in Atlanta, he got into the picture and then you see how everything is being orchestrated.

0 (2h 18m 16s):
And that became the main piece of evidence. They said he was assaulted somebody in the Congress said he was pushed to the ground, never happened. And then Bill Ackman used exploited, weaponized that non incident incident to demand a har Harvard closed down the encampments.

2 (2h 18m 43s):
It, I mean, it's a, it's a propaganda effort backed by a, a, a lot of money. Yes. Yeah. And by the way, that's exactly what happened to that. I think she was in Florida. We got to see, he's wearing an IDF T-shirt. She says like, f you to him. And, and I pushed his phone out of the face, and within hours, Pam Bondi responded, wow, that's amazing. I, I could not know that you could reach the upper echelons of government. Like, I'm like, oh, a federal response to, oh, what a puny little kid. I mean, are you kidding me? Like, you put this up there, you pretend you're a victim. We will not allow people to be, you would've thought. And how many times they tared and feathered this kid with the response that it received from the,

0 (2h 19m 23s):
How many times do you push people out of your face?

2 (2h 19m 26s):
I mean, learn toughen up kid. Yeah. It's a girl. But

0 (2h 19m 28s):
That, yeah, what

2 (2h 19m 29s):
Im not saying it's okay. I'm saying what's not okay, is that they achieved a federal response within hours. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's completely ridiculous. Becomes

0 (2h 19m 36s):
Totally weaponized. Yeah. And becomes totally weaponized.

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2 (2h 22m 11s):
I mean, I think we've, I, I do wanna get to your forthcoming book because we, we, I actually don't have a copy of it, but it is coming out and come out in November. It is called Gaza's Grave Diggers and Inquiry into corruption in High Places. Tell me what that book is about.

0 (2h 22m 26s):
In my opinion, the truth about Gaza is no, no, there is so much human rights material on it. About maybe already four months ago, South Africa, which has been prosecuting the, the genocide case. It's submitted to the International Court of Justice, a 700 page memorial. That's basically your brief with, believe it or not, 4,000 pages of documentation.

0 (2h 23m 6s):
Oh. So it's, I, I felt, when I wrote the Gaza and Inquest into its martyrdom, nobody knew anything about what was going on in Gaza. I sat down and I read through all the human rights supports, all the available information, and I try to reconstruct the picture of what has happened to that God forsaken place. But that's not needed anymore. Like you said, most people have a general knowledge of it. And then for, from a scholarly academic point of view, there's such a vast amount of information available.

0 (2h 23m 49s):
I didn't feel I needed to repeat it. I didn't have to do what I did with a gossip book. So instead, what I did was I looked at key figures in the international institutions. People like Pramila Patton. She was head of what was called conflict related sexual violence. They use the abbreviation C-R-S-V-A, very clunky it abbreviation and Secretary General Gutierrez of the UN Security Council, UN System Secretary General Gutierrez.

0 (2h 24m 34s):
He has her go over to Israel to document sexual violence against Israelis on October 7th. And she says, she comes back and she says, there's clear and convincing evidence, or there's reasonable re reasonable grounds to suppose the Haas committed rape on October 7th. And as of course, you know, and your camera people and your team know that Israel ran with it. They ran with it, the Hamas rapists. So you look at the evidence, I look at what she has in her report, and apart from witnesses, in quotes, Israeli witnesses, there is no evidence.

0 (2h 25m 27s):
Now, you might say, well, it could still have happened without witnesses. Excuse me. It could still have happened without evidence. But here's the thing. Towards the end of her report, she says, there's no medical evidence of rape. There is no forensic evidence of rape. And then she has this revealing tidbit, and I hope all of your listeners will process it. She says, we have 5,000 photographs from October 7th.

0 (2h 26m 13s):
She said, we looked at her team, looked at 5,000 photographs. She said, we looked at 50 hours of digital footage. That's not a small amount, 50 hours of vi digital footage. They said, we looked at CCTV, we looked at traffic cams, we looked at body cams, we looked at dash cams. Okay, now she says, not me. Not you. Pramila Patton says, we saw no photographic or digital evidence of sexual violence.

0 (2h 27m 2s):
She didn't even limit it to rape. She said, we saw no direct photographic or digital violence, digital evidence of rape. But did that stop her from concluding? We have reasonable evidence. We have clear and convincing evidence. There was no evidence.

2 (2h 27m 31s):
It was money. The

0 (2h 27m 32s):
It was what her whether was money. I can't, SIII honestly can't say in her part degree.

2 (2h 27m 39s):
It's a guess. Yeah, it's, for me, it's, that's usually when somebody comes to a conclusion like that, listen, I kind of, there's a fellowship. There's just something there that you'll find. But then

0 (2h 27m 47s):
The, I'm, I'm not disputing that I say as a factual thing, I can prove it. Okay. I'm not saying it's not true what you said,

2 (2h 27m 56s):
I'm guessing, and I don't know. It's true. Yeah. Yeah.

0 (2h 27m 58s):
But then as you know, Israel ran with it. And you know why they ran with it. Israelis did not need the incentive of rape to commit genocide in Gaza. They ran it with it for here because of our own history. They knew it would resonate here because of the, our own history of slavery and the lynchings and so forth.

2 (2h 28m 25s):
That's was also behind the babies were put in ovens. Yes. Which got debunked. Is that the idea here is actually what you're trying to exploit is Jewish American emotion when you hear the concept of ovens at all. And so that's, I, that, that's, that's very think I heard of that. But there's, and he did get caught by the way that he did specifically share, and this was a part of the, the, you know, the BB trials, which are now I know the update on that is, but that he, a team of propagandists move to spread lies to the western public so that it's, it's exactly, yes. And,

0 (2h 28m 57s):
And it got weaponized here. And then another Jewish supremacist billionaire. This was Cheryl Sandberg, the former COO Chief Operating Officer of Met. She makes a documentary called Screams Before Silence. Now, Cheryl Sandberg, as a factual matter, you know her,

2 (2h 29m 30s):
I don't know her. Oh,

0 (2h 29m 31s):
I'm surprised. She's very smart. I

2 (2h 29m 33s):
Know who she is, but I know what she wrote her book and, you know, yeah. Whatever about women lean in. Yeah.

0 (2h 29m 38s):
She was the top student in her class in economics at Harvard. She's no fool. She knows, she knows evidence. There was, by their own admission, there was no evidence, there was no material evidence of Reg. There was not. In fact, I think the evidence, it's not just an absence of evidence. The fact that there's no photographic or digital evidence. None. Now, if it were the case, there were only three pictures, but 5,000 now candidates, I don't know how old you are, but obviously you're several generations younger than myself.

0 (2h 30m 25s):
They said that the rapes, Israel said that the rapes occurred in public, broad public space. Okay? And they said the witnesses were in hiding as they observed these gang rapes. They said, now, I, I'm not of the younger generation, but I certainly observe the younger generation. You know, they, they take pictures of everything, everything they photograph, you're walking along the street, you see a dead pigeon.

0 (2h 31m 5s):
Out comes the iPhone, you see a bee in the air. Out comes the iPhone. You're telling me not one of these witnesses thought to photograph a gangrene. They're saying they're in the safety, safety of a hiding place. None. So I think rather than cast it as no evidence of rape, I think it should be cast as overwhelming evidence that there was no rape. But that doesn't stop the top student in her year in the Harvard Economics Department from making a documentary claiming there was mass rape on October 7th by Haas.

0 (2h 31m 56s):
Why does she do it? It's very simple why she does it. There are the little facts, like the ones we just spoke of, the pictures, the absence of medical evidence, absence of forensic evidence. There are the little facts. And then as you well know, there is the cause. There's the cause and all the uncomfortable little facts, like there's no evidence they pal in comparison to the cause.

0 (2h 32m 42s):
The cause is on Israel High. Israel must live, they're, they're complete supremacists. Now, I am not gonna quarrel with your deep seed belief. I will not quarrel with it. Israel must live, if that's your belief, I won't quarrel with it. But it says, if a German, during World War II were making propaganda films on the pretense, and they did, they made films saying the concentration camps weren't bad.

0 (2h 33m 28s):
They went into some of them. They had this newsreel footage, made it look like a summer home. You know, the issue now, or I should say the issue then during World War II is not whether Germany should live at that point. The issue was the mass extermination of people. Nobody was denying Germany's right to live. What they were denying was Germany's execution of a genocide.

0 (2h 34m 15s):
And it's the same thing. Now, you could say on Israel high, Israel must live, or Israel will live to the end of time. Fine, you could say it, and I grant you your belief. I don't happen to agree with it, but I, I'm not gonna deny you that I can understand that sentiment. But when that sentiment in the midst of what's happening in Gaza now, and that part of part is it's not just morally unacceptable.

0 (2h 35m 4s):
You're just a propagandist for genocide. She's no different. And I'll say it than Ms. Sandberg. And I'm not going to deny you your achievements and your accomplishments. I will not. I recognize it's hard work. And she was not, she wasn't born rich. She was, I know, I've heard people who know her. She was a hard worker. It's not Barry Weiss. No, it's not. So I'm not going to deny you your achievements, but you're no different than Lenny Reen Stone.

0 (2h 35m 44s):
That was the famous film propagandist for Hitler. And she was a, she did a very famous, she was, happened to be very gifted in film. She used it for the wrong purpose. She had made a famous film called Triumph of the Will Glorifying Hitler. You're no different. Okay? You're not on the scale of Lenny Rein style, but you're a propagandist. This is not about Let Israel Live. The issue is let Palestine live. That's the issue right now.

0 (2h 36m 26s):
And you've just a, you have self recruited yourself as a propagandist or a genocide. And by the way, Ms. Sandberg, that's just not my opinion. It's as most recent Washington Poll showed, 40% of American Jews believe it's a genocide. You have self recruited yourself as a propagandist or genocide, as does, as does Mr.

0 (2h 37m 10s):
Van Jones. That's your, that's your job title as of now.

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2 (2h 37m 49s):
You know, it, it's something that I wanna reiterate as, as we close here and, and I wanna basically direct people where they can find your book. But I have said this over and over again, and I think it's starting to register with people. If you side with evil, you should remember that evil is always an orphan. If you're finding someone that feels nothing when they kill a child, you are dealing with somebody that has a capacity for evil that you mean nothing. They will, they won't even flinch if they have to kill you too. And this is something that I, I, I have really taken the time to explain to people, like if, if you will, and that includes you Jewish Americans, right? When we're speaking about Bibb Day at Yahoo and people with that capacity for evil, there is nothing to those individuals but themselves.

2 (2h 38m 33s):
And you have to be very careful when you're allying with evil to realize that it will, it will snap in two seconds and take you out evil's always an orphan.

0 (2h 38m 41s):
You know, I would just a comment on that. You know, I think it cuts both ways. One of the questions that's always been asked is, is it possible for a person to be evil, a mass murderer, and so to speak, one compartment of his or her life, and then be just a very No. Okay.

2 (2h 39m 4s):
Absolutely not. I, I,

0 (2h 39m 4s):
I agree. It's an open question, but if you ever have time, one film, which very much struck me, nobody's ever heard of it. You should watch it. It's called The Music Box. And it's about a young woman, a lawyer. She lives in wash, she lives in Chicago. Her father sacrificed everything in his life so she can get through law school. Mm. Okay. And the film begins, she loves her father to death. The father loves her to death, okay?

0 (2h 39m 48s):
Who is a wonderful father to her. And the film begins with the US government presenting her father with papers that he was a mass murderer during World War II in Hungary. Okay? Her father asks her to defend him. I don't wanna give away the ending, ending because some people may watch it, the music box,

2 (2h 40m 16s):
But it explores that theme.

0 (2h 40m 19s):
And you'll be, I think you'll be touched and moved by how that whole story unfolds. Whether you can be a monster in one compartment of your life, your life, and a loving family member in the other. Now, I'm not saying you are wrong, because I think it's a complicated question, but it's worth pondering.

2 (2h 40m 45s):
Yeah. It definitely is worth pondering. And so I, I wanna point them in the direction. By the way, where can they get your forthcoming book? Is that out now?

0 (2h 40m 53s):
No, it'll be out hopefully in

2 (2h 40m 55s):
January. Okay. So in the interim, you guys, if you, all of these topics that we covered today are really important. So the Holocaust, indu industry, we all know it's happening. Finally, we were at a circumstance where the people can go backwards and understand more about how that happened. Also, Gaza and inquest into its martyrdom. If you are just starting to realize something is very wrong and you need to independently educate yourself, that is a good place to start. And lastly, I'll burn that bridge when I get to it. And these are his heretical thoughts on identity politics, cancel culture and academic freedom. I'm sure some of this he and I disagree on and agree on, but, but what I will say is that one of my favorite things is that this issue is bringing people together from other sides.

2 (2h 41m 38s):
And that, that needs to happen. We need to start allying ourselves and recognize whether you view yourself on the left or the right, doesn't matter. Do you follow goodness or do you follow evil at your core? Anything that you would like to add before we get you out of here?

0 (2h 41m 53s):
No. I wanna say, first of all, when I was first on your program, which is about two years ago now, I appreciated the fact that you listened. You listened. And I was on with Jordan Peterson's daughter, I forgot her name.

2 (2h 42m 13s):
Mikayla Peterson Mc.

0 (2h 42m 14s):
Yeah. And she listened. You don't have to agree with me. And there are many things I said today we didn't agree on, but I respect the fact that you were a good listener. And I would also say that if you disagree with me, Mr. Shapiro, Ben Shapiro, Sam Harris, van Jones, if you disagree with me, stop trying to, not in the case of Van Jones, but the others come up and just talk about it.

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Try to be Kand Owens, listen. And then you can respond just like she did. What's the fear? Why are you so afraid? You've received countless requests to debate me, and each and every one of them, you've turned down. I sent a list, a very long list to Pi Morgan of people who I, they say, who would you like to debate? And all of them turned it down. I put Ben Shapiro on the list. I put Sam Harris on the list.

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I would be happy to debate Bill Maher, even though I believe he's a moron. I'd be happy to debate him. Defend yourself. So I believe you should have the courage of your convictions. Ms. Sandberg, let's debate it. Let's debate what happened on October 7th, and whether there's any material evidence of rape, any material, evidence of rape. Let's look, let's examine it. And I'm appreciative, even though we come from very different corners of the political universe, that you gave me the time.

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And I remember somebody once said to me, she's a senior historian of Nazi Holocaust. He says, in judging a person, character is much more significant than ideology. You can have nasty people across the political spectrum. Character is a much better indicator of a person than his or her ideology. And I discovered that with Raul Hilberg, ideologically polar ends in the spectrum.

0 (2h 45m 4s):
But the guy he came out slugging for me. And that was a real, it was an epiphany for me. And I, I'm grateful that you gave me the time as well.

2 (2h 45m 17s):
And I'm, I'm grateful that we were able to do this in person. And I think there's going to be so many people who challenge themselves and make sure that they have the courage of their own convictions. So you guys, so much to learn, so much to process, all of us just trying to make sure we know what we are saying and that the facts are on our side. So thank you for joining us in this discussion. We'll see you next time.

10/31/25

INFILTRATION: Charlie Kirk Was Being Tracked For Years. | Candace Ep 256



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Alright you guys, well if Halloween is your thing, then I definitively have a scary story for you and it's scary because it's not fiction. Okay? This is real life, the assassination of my friend Charlie Kirk. We are now, I believe, extremely close to solving this thing. I think after this episode you are going to recognize that there is just irrefutable proof that there were in fact foreign actors involved. And of course that implies that our government knows. Our government absolutely knows we already felt that way. So let's jump right back into this impromptu episode. Welcome back to Candace.

2 (1m 18s):
Okay, I wanna preface this by letting you guys know that I am positively exhausted. I have been up all night realizing what we were suddenly on the brink of, stumbled into it. I wouldn't even say accidentally, obviously this has been my obsession since we all watch Charlie Kirk be executed in front of the world. And then a lot of people lie about it. And a lot of people who were not acting right or grieving, right? Who were the cl, his closest comrades and business partners. And let's be frank, as I get inch closer and closer to discovering the truth, we should recognize that this is pretty dangerous stuff. And my theory now, I feel confident stating that Charlie Kirk was taken out by something much bigger than Turning Point US, a organization that he was running and certainly much bigger than Tyler Robinson on OSI rooftop, who I don't even think was even, even stepped foot on the campus that day.

2 (2m 14s):
And I think another thing that I should mention is just how positively sad it is. We can reflect on how sad it is already that there are so many people in the world who are convinced they've emailed me. I mean, I've received an unbelievable amount of emails from people that are convinced that Charlie's actually still alive, right? And it's not sad because those people are crazy. They're actually reacting to the lack of emotion and the lack of drive that is coming out of 200 point USA to figure out who killed him. That's what they're react to. So like they came to, okay, this is so unnatural, the reaction of these individuals who were so close to him that the more logical, sensible conclusion is that they actually know where Charlie is and he's perfectly alive.

2 (2m 60s):
Yeah, that is how absurd they are acting. Just move on. Just don't need to turning point USA, this is what Charlie would want and that's his legacy. So what happened? Why are we here? Why are we live on Friday? I gave up Fridays, but this is, is so relevant to what's happening and I wanted to get this information out so that everyone in the world who has been helping me investigate could have the weekend to do research and we can information share The answer to the centralized intelligence agency, as we have said, is the decentralized intelligence agency. We must decentralize ourselves to plug out of this utterly demonic system. Anyway, what happened yesterday was obviously I did the show and I circled back to the Egyptian military plane.

2 (3m 42s):
I had simply tweeted about it while I was in Wyoming. Obviously recognizing that it was not normal that this military, Egyptian military plane had departed on the morning of Charlie's assassination. Now, I made the mistake of thinking it had departed in the afternoon and the reaction to it, this is how you always know the give is they overreact to something and then the military bots make it a trending story. Like there's no way this was trending. This guy correcting me on the timing and he tweets it and the next thing you know, it's trending Egyptian plane debunked. It was not debunked. I showed you that yesterday. Okay, thanks to a very brave person, a foreigner actually who informed me. That's the people who came in on that plane.

2 (4m 24s):
Were not the people that went out on that plane. So where did they go? They were estimating like approximately 18 people were on the plane that came over and far less were on the way back. Where did these people go? Well, let me tell you something, as you know, because I am relying on you guys for tips. I, I'm grateful that I have a platform, but I don't exist without you guys. I'm always checking the comments to see if I got something wrong, if I made a mistake, if there's something that I missed. And somebody I just happened to catch, gave a live comment right after the show. I, I was looking at your comments and, and he said, oh, Candace, that plane, we covered the tail number. S-U-B-T-T. Just so you know, like a year earlier that plane was in Utah at the same time as Charlie Kirk in 2024.

2 (5m 11s):
I was like, oh that's, that's pretty ironic if that, if that's true. I was like, it's probably not true, except it actually was true. So I started last night and I said, okay, maybe that was a coincidence. Let me actually, since I presented that timeline for you, every time I came to America, see if it was always near Charlie Kirk. If it was, or if it was always near some big turning point event. If something was going on with turning point. And the answer you guys, if you thought once was maybe twice was a coincidence, three times we have a conspiracy we're at about every single time that we could go back on this plane and we're not done.

2 (5m 51s):
Obviously there was something happening at turning point USA that was neighboring, okay? In the, in the same city. So I'm gonna take you through this timeline. This is so shocking to me and I've color coordinated this timeline. I'm sure there are going to be some errors. Pick 'em up, Zionists, go hard. Make it trend for the rest of us. Let me know if you, if if there's slight adjustments that needs to be made. But I think we've done a pretty thorough job. So I'm gonna let you know what you are looking at, okay? Tail number, there's two actually Egyptian planes. 'cause then somebody else mentioned to me, Hey Candace, there was another Egyptian plane that left three hours after Egyptian military plane that is three hours after Charlie was assassinated from Provo, Utah. And that tail number is S-U-B-N-B-N-D.

2 (6m 33s):
And you should take a look at that. And I thought to myself, okay, I'll take a look at that. Maybe that's where the rest of the passengers went. Maybe that emptied S-U-B-T-T left in the morning and three hours after Charlie was assassinated, or maybe it's the next day in my, I'm sorry, three days after Marcus corrected me in my ear. Three days after Charlie was assassinated, that's when the rest of the Egyptian crew, whoever was on that plane departed Provo. So we have two tail numbers and they're gonna be color coordinated to make it really easy for you. Okay? Tail number S-U-B-N-D, that's a Gulf Stream for, it's about 12 to six passengers and tail number S-U-B-T-T. That's gonna be our main one. That's our Falcon seven x again holds about 12 to 16 passengers.

2 (7m 18s):
Now for those of you who are not jumping around, flying on private jets all the time, the tail number essentially is like, the best way to think of it is, is like a public, a public plane, we'll say American Airlines on it, right? In order for systems to know how planes are moving in the sky, they kind, they kind of have to give them a license plate in the sky so to speak, right? So the tail number is a unique license plate that literally is called the tail number because it's on the tail of the plane. Okay? We're gonna start with, and I'm gonna show you this, I'm showing you this just because 2022, as you can see I haven't made any notes on this because I haven't gotten back that far, but these are the four times that BTT.

2 (7m 58s):
So they're both su, that BTT was here in 2022. That's the furthest that we can go back on Flight Radar. Now we're gonna go into 2023 and I have included notes that I think might be relevant to the story. So in 2023, Charlie Kirk, I went back on his ex feeded and he is hitting hard on Ukraine. I mean like he's tweeting out photos of Zelensky half naked. 'cause you know, he used to be an actor, obviously he's a homosexual male. He's basically demanding, keep this up the whole time guys. I want them to be able to, to look through this. He's basically demanding that we get, we pull outta the Ukrainian war.

2 (8m 39s):
He's accusing Ukraine and zelensky of corruption, of financial fraud, of money laundering. You go back and he's just basically declared war on the Ukrainian war, figuratively speaking, okay? And he's not siding on Team Ukraine, he's not pro-Russia, but he is not Team Ukraine. I think that's relevant obviously because yeah, when you talk about money laundering around Ukraine and Romania, you're actually stepping on the heels of America, right? You're actually, that that's not something that you can just say when you run this pro-American organization. Given the fact that these people run our government January 10th, 19th, I'm, I'm going to also say that I think this is relevant. Rob McCoy hosts the first ever turning point USA Faith Pastors Tour of Israel.

2 (9m 23s):
He's guiding a group of pastors through Jerusalem on February 20th. I think this might be relevant because the same people that infiltrated or tr Hostly took over James O'Keefe were involved with Turning Point USA. James O'Keefe is the, was the founder and the president of Ja of Project Veritas. And he and Charlie and myself all met at the same time in November that David Horowitz Freedom Center event that I was telling you about. James O'Keefe was really young. So we all kind of came up in this movement together and have always been very defensive of one another. So on January 20th they, there's this like hostile takeover.

2 (10m 4s):
What appears to the public at least is a hostile takeover of Project Veritas. James O'Keefe gets pushed out, he's ousted from the board of his own company and Charlie publicly announces his support for what he perceives like the rest of the world perceived was a bit of a hostile takeover. Okay? February 21st it, we now have BND, okay? It flies into St. Louis, Missouri and it lands at 2:38 PM and it's gonna stay until May. The blue one you're gonna see stays longer when it arrives and then the yellow one will become, will come behind it. BTT will come behind it. Okay? On February 25th, BTT comes in and BTT, again, they're both flying from Cairo every time, typically through Paris.

2 (10m 47s):
And it then lands in St. Louis, Missouri. And this is relevant because on February 27th, this person who I hadn't heard of before, named Sean Fot, I believe I'm saying that correctly. Sean Fot is announced as the turning point. USA faith contributor. Now this guy is in partnership with Rob McCoy still today until this day at Turning Point USA doing turning point USA faith stuff. And this is also relevant because by all accounts this guy is sleaze. And what I mean is that people were coming forward and saying the money's looking funny with this guy. He's not a true Christian. He's, he's faced accusations of fraud, of embezzlement.

2 (11m 30s):
I'm PA picture for you. But to stay on this Sean Foyt thing, I had to actually look him up and I saw it and on his biography and on Wikipedia by the way, so this is, I haven't done a deep dive on him by any means, but I was like, I recognize that name. And I recognized that name because many people emailed us after Charlie's assassination and they thought Sean Foyt was the guy that was standing and cheering U-S-A-U-S-A. And I think he did a video and denied it. But that's the only familiarized. Like that's the only way that I was familiar with that name. So I look him up on his biography and it tells us that he was born in Montana. He's a son of a dermatologist. That dermatologist is not named, he's of course a Christian Zionist, you guys that's obvious.

2 (12m 13s):
But he grew up playing music in a new Apostolic Reformation church, okay? New Apostolic Reformation going forward, we're going to term that nar NAR, okay? And he would record prayers and prophecies that were made and impacted Foyt. It's as, as he was growing up, okay? He was a part of the nar Apostle Shaa s prayer rallies. It tells us, okay, point being is that he is involved with NAR. Now the reason why I'm telling you that is because there is a Twitter user, an ex-US named Melissa.

2 (12m 52s):
She goes by Mel and she uses the Handle Village crazy lady. And her and I have been speaking 'cause you just know when someone is a real one out there and I've been watching her and I'm like, okay, she's on it. She's like me, she's a mom. We're not messing around with what's going on in the world today. And she's been calling people out left and right. She's not pro-Israel, she's also a Catholic. And when her and I spoke about this turning point thing, she said, are you familiar with nar? And I said, no Mel, I'm not familiar with nara. What's nar? And she's like, I'm looking into this. I'm digging into this NAR thing. There's something here. If we start talking about Rob the McCoy, Rob McCoy, something's going on here. So she's going down the figurative NAR rabbit hole. If you don't know who she is, you should follow her.

2 (13m 33s):
I told her to pin whatever she's learned about NAR to the top of her profile today. That's Village Crazy Lady. But that's the introduction. So NAR is somehow going to be relevant. Again, we are at an early phase in this investigation. Let's jump back into our timeline here. Okay, so he is announced that he is going to be heading up Rob McCoy is obviously now the co-chair of T-P-U-S-A faith he brings on Sean Foyt presumably. And on February 28th, Sean Foyt announced it's announced that he's gonna be heading up the kingdom of the Capitol tour. So he becomes the face of this turning point USA faith tour. So, and of course the first event that they do, as I just mentioned to you, that plane gets to St.

2 (14m 16s):
Louis, Missouri. And sure enough, Sean Foyt is there. TPUS faith is there they are at the Capitol and they're doing this event. Okay, so interesting. I went, okay, that's kind of interesting. Let's keep going. Now I just have, I'm just gonna scroll through this 'cause I'm, this is timeline one for myself because I'm gonna, it's gonna keep building everywhere that Charlie is speaking everywhere that Charlie Charlie is speaking. Let's look at March 24th, 2027. This is, now I'll tell you why this is interesting to me. Turning Point USA has their first ever Faith Pastor Summit. I spelled that wrong there. The Faith Pastor Summit and it's in Nashville and it's headed by Rob McCoy. And lo and behold, while they're here, there is a trans shooting, a traumatizing trans shooting in which the feds engage in a coverup regarding, okay, you, you remember this shooting because it was at a Christian elementary school.

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It was at a Christian elementary school. It was incredibly traumatizing for all of us that lived here. And then doubly traumatizing, not just because we have kids, but because then we got no answers. They, they just wanted to hush hush this, this is just a crazy trans person. Nothing else to see here. Goodbye. Now what I'll say to you is Rob McCoy has got some terrible luck is what I would say because he's there when that trans shooting happens. Obviously he's very close to Charlie Kirk when his shooting happens. He says I was his pastor. But also I had received a tip that Rob McCoy, who is from Thousand Oaks, which happens to be a very corrupt place, was very involved in a shooting that happened in 2018.

2 (15m 54s):
When I say involved, I should rephrase that. I don't mean like he shot anybody. What I mean is that he was the nearby pastor of a Thousand Oaks shooting that happened at some bar where a veteran shot up a bar. Skyler, can you pull this up because I don't even remember the details. We received an email and they were like, he was very close with the, the shooter's mom. The shooter was a veteran. They killed two marine vets among some other, it looks like bystanders say a bystanders at this bar. What bar was it? Something Bar and Grill. I'll look it up in a second. If you don't have that quickly. 2018. Gimme one second guys. I just wanna make sure that we have the facts of when this happened.

2 (16m 34s):
2000 and 18,000 Oaks shooting. I can't hear you if you're talking in my air, but yeah, there was a, a shooting, a shooting here at the Borderline Bar. Okay, this is on November 7th, 2018. A former machine gunner in the Marines. Okay? Opens fire on patrons at the borderline bar and grill. It kills 11 patrons and then himself. And then when you hear who the victims are, there's some other Marines and some veterans there. So I'm starting to get the feeling by the way, and I don't know about the rest of you and these are Candace's musings that maybe these kind of random shootings that instantly get covered up but always involve like an Army veteran aren't actually that random and maybe the military is involved in them.

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Like there's a target inside of there. Okay, that's a segue going back to Rob McCoy and him having bad luck. This person tells me that he knew the shooter's mother was his pastor or something. Happy to correct that. But then also got close to the victim's family and the victim's family got upset with him. Anyways, just put that in your back pocket. I just thought that I should mention that like he's got some luck or bad luck rather. Okay. March 27th, like I said is when we have that trench shooting at Covenant Elementary School in Nashville. And then we go back into our timeline. You can see on April 1st we have that, that plane, we're gonna call it the yellow plane for the sake of this, this timeline. The yellow plane flies from Cairo always via Paris to Saint Louis again and it lands in Missouri.

2 (18m 10s):
And guess what? April 2nd, TPUS Faith co-chaired by Rob McCoy kicks off their tour with an event headed by Sean Voy in Jefferson City, Missouri the very next day while this P is here. Okay, let's keep going. Okay, April 6th it leaves and it always goes through Delaware when it leaves and goes back to Cairo. Okay, now I am just kind of putting down for you here again other places where Charlie's here where he is. 'cause I know that I'm going to, this is gonna build into my timeline. You know, I'm, I'm looking in and Sean Foy is in, in Israel related to some more faith stuff. I don't know if Turning Point sponsors that trip or not.

2 (18m 51s):
That's why I put a note there. Charlie at that is speaking in Sacramento on the April 13th yellow plane again comes in this time it flies to Kansas. Cairo to Kansas. And on April 23rd, Sean Foyt heads up the TPU U-S-A-T-P-U-S-A Faith Kingdom to the Capitol Tour event, which happens to be in Topeka, Kansas. So I have a question. When did, how did he get here from Israel? Did he fly into Wichita the day before and then make the very short drive to and make his event?

2 (19m 31s):
I don't know, but I'm putting it in there because once again we have this plane in here and we've got another T-P-U-S-A faith event that is happening right around the corner. It's about, I think just under two hours to get from Wichita, Kansas to Topeka where the T-P-U-S-A Faith Kingdom of the Capitol tour continues. Okay, April 3rd, BND is in here doing, does a test fly? I think I might have dropped this blue thing. Oh yeah, it's been here the whole time. That's right. This plane stays here a long time. So it's been here from February 21st and then it's going to head out and it just leaves on May 9th. Okay, that's gonna end 2023. Literally every time this plane is here I can pin A-T-P-U-S-A faith event that's happening.

2 (20m 16s):
Which is like some look right February 9th, we're going now into 2024. I guess actually let's start with January and January 3rd, 2024. Mikey McCoy is promoted to the chief of staff of Turning Point USAI have the internal email. So that is a fact. He gets the promotion and now you can see I guess the McCoys are much more involved in turning point USA. I did not know them. So this has to be the year that they got super involved because I'm gonna do my last speech for them in June of 2024. Anyways, he gets promoted to chief of staff and then on February 8th, Charlie's campus tour is publicly announced. I'm doing it with him on February 9th.

2 (20m 59s):
Our plane comes in, our Egyptian military plane comes in. This time it is headed to Nebraska and it lands in Nebraska and then flies straight to Lincoln, Nebraska. It lands in Omaha, pardon? And then tries, flies straight over to Lincoln and it stays in Lincoln for a mysterious five days. Now I'm racking my brains, I couldn't find anything going on with Turning Point, but I was like, I bet there's something going on in Turning Point in Lincoln, Nebraska. 'cause that's pretty precise location for this plane to go to. And lo and behold, turning point USA on February 11th while this is going on starts a chapter in Lincoln, Nebraska. I'm not kidding. Here's the post. Now to be clear, because people will go out and say, oh, they already had events at the University of Nebraska.

2 (21m 41s):
They had a regional chapter, which for in, in Turning point lingo like if there's not enough interest in a in a certain area, they will develop these regional chapters. And you know, people in that area who are interested in turning point USA will work to make events happen. They did not have a Lincoln specific Nebraska chapter according to their own Instagram, as you can see until February 11th. This is a, a chapter Instagram, I should be clear, this is the NL University of Nebraska Lincoln and they're saying it's gonna be our first weekly meeting. Here it is. And in the, I think you cut off the bottom. Oh, it's on the right side starting next week to PSA at UNL. It is official.

2 (22m 21s):
Our first weekly meeting. Okay, February 20th, Nebraska City Campus. You got it. You got it. I would like to know if you are a turning point USA insider and you are watching this show. Who started that chapter That is very relevant to my research right now. Who started the Lincoln Nebraska chapter? 'cause I, I can't find that. I've looked through, I've tried to see who, who was the first person. Typically I, I think to start a charter chapter you have to apply. So there's gotta be some students and maybe you're in Lincoln, Nebraska and you can ask around who said, Hey, let's start this chapter in Lincoln, Nebraska all by ourselves. We're not gonna be regional anymore. I need to know who that is.

2 (23m 1s):
Okay, so that happens. And then on February 14th our plane departs back for Cairo. And this time BTT departs Cairo stays in Wilmington for two days and then heads back to Chiro Cairo on the 16th. Yeah. Okay, so that's February 14th, right? It comes back pretty quickly. Pretty quickly on March 29th, BTT, our yellow plane departs Egypt again and it comes back to Wichita, Kansas. Atlanta at 2:19 PM in Wichita, Kansas. And guess who was in Kansas that week? I mean it's just incredible.

2 (23m 42s):
It is incredible. Charlie Kirk was speaking at the University of Kansas, okay on April 3rd. So let me know when you get uncomfortable and you realize this is not this, these are not coincidences, okay? This is a conspiracy. This plane is following Turning Point USA faith and Charlie Kirk and or Charlie Kirk by the way, at those T-P-U-S-A faith events. It's possible. Charlie was speaking, I just can't find it. It's very difficult to search Charlie Kirk right now and to go back. So I'm gonna continue to build this timeline, but you're getting the picture here. Let's keep going. So yes, that, that, that plane comes in here and then I have here on April 9th that Charlie is in Omaha, Nebraska speaking at the Lord of Hosts church.

2 (24m 23s):
So he's doing T-P-U-S-A faith stuff in general. And then we get our blue, our blue plane comes in. Our blue plane remember is the one that whenever it's here, it's gonna sit for a little bit and it sure does sit for a little bit. On April 19th it goes to Provo, it comes in from Cairo via Paris. It makes a stop in Salt Lake City and then goes onto Provo. That is April 19th. Okay? Lo and behold, BTT is then going to, coming from Cairo via Paris through North Dakota to Provo. The planes are together again. You know they're meeting up, they're kind of tracking each other and who's in the area, who's in Utah at the same time, of course Charlie Kirk.

2 (25m 11s):
Charlie Kirk is doing a Salt Lake University event. Sorry it's not Salt Lake University, it's the University of Utah at Salt Lake City. I think that's correct. So he's doing an event at Salt Lake at the University of Utah. It's a prove me wrong event. Charlie Kirk is here of course. And then we have that BTT, that's our yellow plane departs on April 28th. Charlie's event is over so we can move on. Also have here about, Charlie spoke in North Dakota, so he's in the area. And then in July 17th, on July 17th, our blue plane is going to leave. Right? It always lags behind our yellow plane. Now let's get into 2025.

2 (25m 51s):
This is the year that Charlie gets assassinated, right? I don't know what this plane is doing, I don't know who's on the plane. I do know that if Tulsi Gabbard or Joe Kent is potentially watching this, or if they are, as they have stated or as the public figured out being blocked from Cash Patel, you should be able to look into these flights and see who is on these manifests. And it is going to be extremely relevant. I'm telling you it's going to be extremely relevant and my best guess is that they are going to try to hide that or lie about it. And I'm wondering if these planes potentially maybe had some Americans on them because that would be incredibly relevant. Anyways, let's get into 2025 here. We're gonna start with just the planes don't come in at all in the beginning.

2 (26m 32s):
This is me just putting down Charlie's schedule. May 23rd is the first time one of the planes come in. And that is the blue plane. The blue plane sits and it stays for a while. And I'm gonna say that to us, when we looked at this, it appeared to be a legitimate maintenance stop like that they came in because there was just some tests flying that was happening around that time. I don't know for certain, obviously we're building upon this timeline, but the blue plane, our lag plane gets into Probo at on May 23rd. Okay, I'm gonna keep with this timeline. You can see in June of 2025, by the way, is when the article broke.

2 (27m 12s):
Sean Foy is credibly accused of having been involved in fraud and embezzlement. There are multiple organizations that are a binding together to say that he's immoral, he is unethical, that he has shady financial activities. He's misrepresented his ministry activities, ceaseless financial solicitation. They accused him of intermingled with Grand, grand visions, which has led to untold financial gain and a steady stream of unpaid labor from volunteers. Starting to sound a little bit familiar here. And they make statements that he was purportedly using. And I'm gonna say this is allegedly, I'm reading this from the article, using business credit cards for personal expenses.

2 (27m 53s):
He diverted donations to personal accounts. He inflated the prices that were paid to vendors. He's using ministry funds to rent his own cabin in Montana for the ministry board meeting. I mean there's all of these allegations that are coming from him. And by the way, even people who formally worked at Turning Point USA say the same thing, like there's something not right about Sean. Sean Foyt outta spite all of this. And this breaks down the very many properties that they say are owned by him. Very expensive properties by the way. There's always going to be a real estate. There's almost gonna be like a real estate theme. And what we're gonna discuss later, they're breaking down. Like this guy owns a ton of properties, he's moving a lot of properties. That's interesting to me.

2 (28m 33s):
When the money is looking funny and you see that people own a lot of properties, you should be interested. Okay, I'm not making any allegations against him, but I'm gonna make some broader allegations that when I started piercing this layer of the Mormon church, I was like, is this a church or is this a real estate empire? Never seen so many real estate transactions in my life. People that were paying in cash, paying cash more than what the property was worth. And I'm going, me when I see this much real estate being purchased in cash, I know a thing or two about money laundering. It's a good business to be in, is all I'm saying, right? It's a good business to be in. And I gotta be honest, these mega churches are looking a little funny, okay?

2 (29m 16s):
They're looking a little funny. What was it? Joel Osteen. Like the plumber was fixing a toilet and found like a million bucks in the hole. Do you remember this story? Mega church Pastor Joel Austin, his church, I think it was, I, I gotta pull it up if you can find it, Skylar, the plumber's like, Hey, I'm here to fix the, the toilet. And finds that actually there's like almost a million dollars of cash in one of the walls. And I think ti issued a statement and was like, oh well you know, we, we are very surprised to see this. It's very strange. This is in the walls of our church. That's amazing. God has blessed us greatly for supporting Israel. I'm joking he didn't say that, but I think the excuse that he gave, here it is the plumber doing repairs November 10th at the mega church and blah blah blah.

2 (30m 1s):
There was a loose toilet in the wall. We removed the tile and boom, 500 envelopes fell out of the wall. And I was like, oh wow. And then the plumber co contacted maintenance and Joe Austen's excuse was like, we had some money that was missing at the church. Here it is. Like, like I don't know these, I don't, these pastors like tickle me now. It's like, I dunno, that's so crazy. That is so crazy. I had to, there you are, there you are. A million bucks. I did not see you there. Happens all the time. Rich people problems. You know, rich people problems. Just so much money. You gotta put it behind a toilet. And he said that that's what they thought. Maybe it was to me.

2 (30m 42s):
To me, when I hear cash flowing like that, my mind goes to, and we're talking like a lot of these mega churches are always in California, all or Arizona. And I'm not saying this about Joel Austen, I'm talking about the broader implications of cash being found in any place. I'm thinking the cartels, right? Like that's where my mind's at. I'm thinking cartel money is flowing through the border and could end up in a closet somewhere. Again, I'm not correlating that to Joe Oste, but I do think the fact that that money was found there is weird and his excuse makes no sense. I will say that. Now jumping back into our timeline, where was I just now we are ba blah blah blah blah. This is when things start to get a little spicy for Charlie Kirk.

2 (31m 24s):
Okay, so that's Sean Voight, that's June, 2025. Money's looking funny according to multiple people and organizations that have worked with him. Mark has made a note. No, that's incorrect. Mark, I checked this three times. You're thinking about Oh, oh you're saying that, oh sorry, I yeah, that's what we were, that's where we were just at now. Oh, okay. I, I will bump that. Okay, mark is saying that the Lincoln chapter was opened. I had that in the wrong date. That was supposed to be in May of 2025. Okay, we'll get back to that. Lemme just, lemme just get through this. Okay so we have Tucker Carlson then speaks on in July of July 11th, 2025.

2 (32m 12s):
This is a very big deal, okay? Very big deal. Tucker Carlson gets on stage at turning point USA and there is a donor panic, an absolute panic. He gives a speech, he calls out Jeffrey Epstein right there. He's calling out Jeffrey Epstein. Dave Smith is speaking, they're talking about Israel being a problem. He's getting cheers from the crowd, right? This audience being like, yeah, no, why are we married to this like nation in the middle that happens to be committing a genocide. But he also says things like, you know, people that serve in foreign armies should probably have their citizenship stripped. Something along those lines. And he also amuses about where Bill Ackman's wealth comes from. And yeah, it's just a speech. Which by the way, Charlie was the one who told him backstage go hard at Israel.

2 (32m 57s):
Right? He's done. Charlie's done. He just is. That's just the reality. Which is why it was crazy and people were trying to lie about this. I was like, this lie is not, will not stand. And he's telling, he's telling Carlson to go hard in the paint. Now I know for a fact that when Tucker came off stage one donor, immediately a woman who I have not named yet instantly started yelling at Charlie, Charlie then gets the full donor squeeze. You are not allowed to be anti-Israel. This feels like a good time to mention that. The last time at I spoke at Turning Point USA's conference in 2024, there was this random sidebar conversation that I had with Tyler Boyer. Tyler Boyer is the king of Shady at Turning Point USA. He is the one, like I said, that has, he has hired every person around.

2 (33m 41s):
Charlie jokes on you if you think Turning Point USA is a Christian organization, it's a Mormon one. Okay? And Tyler Boyer said to me backstage I, there was something going on with like Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes, I can't recall. This is again 2024. And I said to him, why don't you just have Charlie debate Nick? Like the common sense thing to me is just like have the debate, right? It's not a big, it's like all of this. I think Nick had maybe come actually to the conference with like some people 'cause he was doing that for a little bit. And I was like, why don't you just like debate him? Like I dunno, I'm like pro conversation. And Tyler said to me, turning point, you will say USA will never will just always be pro-Israel. Like we're just never not gonna be pro-Israel. Didn't think any of it, anything of it at the time.

2 (34m 22s):
But in retrospect it's kind of a weird thing to say. Like what do you mean it'll never be anti-Israel? What do you mean it will always be pro-Israel. That's just what we are. We're pro-Israel. What do you mean that that's just what we are. You're supposed to be an organization that's dedicated to free speech. And what comes with free speech is the ability to think freely, the ability to process the information that is being spoken to you and to think freely. You care about free markets, which I think actually relies upon free speech to have free markets. I don't even think the markets are free right now. And so I'm just trying to understand this concept that turning point is just never gonna not be pro-Israel actually in the retrospect. And so if we fast forward a year later, third Carlson's on the stage and his hype boy, his hype man is Charlie Kirk and he's like just hit him hard.

2 (35m 6s):
And he goes out there and he hits them harder than anything and suddenly there's an explosion, right? And they're really angry. They are very angry. Josh Hammer is, is is angry Seth Dylan is angry far be it from them to ever tell the truth about that these people were gonna lie. Oh he never blinked. And we were just as greatest supporters. Bob Schulman is angry and they're basically saying, Charlie, this can never happen again. And you have to be pro-Israel. That's kind of the vibes that they're putting down. Okay, that happens July 11th and now our plane is coming back from Egypt just nine days later. It goes through Omaha, Nebraska at 11:37 AM it departs and it heads over to Lincoln, Nebraska and it stays there for six days.

2 (35m 56s):
I would love to know, and again, anybody who has the ability to pull the files, maybe you just work at the airport. I really would like to know who was on that plane. I, I think this July 20th date is very important. Very important. Okay. I think the post C-P-U-S-A conference dates are critical to what happened here. Okay? Then Charlie speaks to New York and after that he heads up to New York in the Hamptons and he, Charlie Kirk himself described it as an intervention. Seth Dylan is lying through his teeth, okay? People that were there said Seth Dylan was rowdy pushing Charlie on his views on Israel. Charlie himself described it as an intervention that was staged over his viewpoints on Israel.

2 (36m 40s):
Okay? And maybe they were gonna see they could fix 'em. You know how every episode of intervention ends? They ask you if you wanna go to rehab 'cause they love you, okay? They read the letters. Charlie, I remember you. You were so brave. You were so brave and you loved Israel and you understood that your job is to be a good little boy and do what we say. I miss you. Do you wanna go to rehab? But that phone call wasn't coming in from mom or dad. It was coming in from BB net and Yahoo and that's kind of terrifying actually. BB net and Yahoo is like pretending to be your friend. Hey come to Israel. And how do we know that that happened? Because Bibe told us himself. So this is, this is not in dispute, right? Bibe rushed, raced outta the gate to establish Charlie Kirk as like Israel's top goy.

2 (37m 24s):
And he said probably too much. He said he called him two weeks ago and he invited him to Israel and the part that he left out was Charlie declined. So when he got the phone call to go to figurative rehab, Charlie said, no, I'm good. Actually Bebe offered to fund turning point to the next level. Okay? Andrew Cove should be able to confirm that yes or no, don't dance around it I don't like. But dancing him and Alex said, oh this, this blah blah. It's a yes. Okay, take it to the next level. With what money though actually it is relevant and it is true that Charlie did not know where the money was coming from. That's why he established Doge. Okay? He did not know where the money was coming from or where it was going to.

2 (38m 8s):
That sounds to me like a very sophisticated money laundering operation could have been happening under his nose. Now I'm not a forensic accountant, I am saying this so that those of you who are forensic accountant can go do what you do and figure out for Charlie, establish the internet. Doge, okay, where was the money coming from and where was it going to? And then my turning point insiders tell me the money was indeed looking funny. Okay? It was just a lot of money coming in really fast then going out really fast. And I can tell you what it sounds like, we don't have any facts on that. We only have just a sense of Charlie's emotion at the time. He says, no baby, I don't know maybe where this money's coming from.

2 (38m 49s):
I'm good. I'm not going to go to rehab in Israel and I'm not gonna take your money. Charlie says No. Okay. And what happens next after the Hamptons retreat is that our, and I think this is a BTT, I didn't put this on August 17th, I missed this. BTT comes in is that BTT stays for six days. Yeah 'cause it went back to Cairo. BTT, that's our yellow plane comes into Nebraska. And again, does that trip into Lincoln immediately? And again, I think these trips are very important.

2 (39m 32s):
Okay, turning point USA insiders. I know some of you guys are becoming more and more courageous what was going on in Nebraska? What's going on at the Lincoln chapter? Have a Lincoln chapter come together. I think you were making a note but that was supposed to be in 2025. The Lincoln chapter came together. Is that what you were saying Mark? Okay, so I'll edit that in our updated timeline so that you guys that are watching us can update that in your timeline. What is going on in Lincoln, Nebraska? I feel like something very relevant is happening here. Then we have of course the final time that that plane comes in and that before Charlie's assassination rather it comes down September 4th, it heads to Manat North Dakota and then it heads directly there to Provo and it lands in Provo on September 4th at 1246 And it had, it was a full plane.

2 (40m 25s):
Okay, that's what we can say. It was a full plane according to a person overseas who had intimate knowledge and I think the information is solid and it was not a full plane when it departs the morning that Charlie is assassinated. So working with that, what's going on here? What's going on here? We then know that three days later, bringing back, back that back up on September 13th, our blue plane, which it trails is going to leave through Canada as it always does. It's gonna leave Provo that's gonna go through Canada, through Paris and back home to Cairo.

2 (41m 5s):
Three days following Charlie Kirk's assassination. Did that plane perhaps have the rest of the people that were left behind? What is going on? I wanna know one more thing that I wanna mention to you and Skylar, you, I actually didn't tell you. I wanna make sure that you pull up just what I want you okay, under the notes from me Charlie. 'cause I, this is stuff that we're working on. I mean Charlie, goodness, the notes from me Skyler, it says two jets that landed from Arizona into Provo. 'cause we started tracking those jets because I think the planes are gonna tell us a story.

2 (41m 46s):
If you could just copy that and from there up into the nine 11. Yeah that'd be great. So that they can see that we started then looking at the planes that day and something that struck us as actually Charlie just, I would just, I mean Charlie, goodness Skyler, if you could just delete the name of the agent is the only thing I would delete. 'cause it's not relevant for them. I mean it's obviously public information but I don't, we don't want this person to get inundated anyway. So two land, there were two planes that we could find that right after Charlie gets shot scrambled and from Scottsdale, Arizona, we're trying to figure out like, okay, like who came in and something that caught us.

2 (42m 28s):
Something that we we think is interesting is that the tail number 9 4 0 JD right had an a day where they went up from Scottsdale in the morning and I think it was, if you wanna bring that up Mark at seven o'clock in the morning they left. You wanna pull it up? That's N four jd. I wanna say it leaves at seven o'clock in the morning. Oh no that's, that's the other tone number. Just kidding. The G five plane. Okay, switch that. This is why he needs to bring this in. Tail number N 1 0 2 DZ, we'll have it up in a second.

2 (43m 9s):
N 1 0 2 DZ we're interested in because at seven 12 in am in the morning in Scottsdale, so that's local time in Scottsdale, it flies from Scottsdale to Salt Lake City. So instantly I was like, oh this, this could be Charlie's plane but then like why would Charlie fly into to Salt Lake City? No, he would fly into promo obviously because Salt Lake City is like 60 miles away. You don't fly private so that you can then take a six, a 60 mile car unless there's some reason that you would have to like the airport was closed. And I don't think that's true. Maybe it is. You guys can let me know. But this plane was in, flew from Scottsdale and then landed in Salt Lake City at 9:23 AM local time.

2 (43m 50s):
And then Charlie gets shot at 1223 and this plane scrambles and it leaves Salt Lake City and it heads to Scottsdale at 1:00 PM So that's pretty quick. But coming from Salt Lake City doesn't make sense to me. So I'm thinking this had on somebody, but why did they go to Salt Lake City? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Okay. And so that G five plane then gets back to Scottsdale at 1:00 PM local time, right? 'cause they're gonna gain time going backwards and then they are only on the ground for 15 minutes. They turn around and they go right back to, they go right back to Scottsdale.

2 (44m 32s):
I it's possible this plane picked up Erica, it's possible this plane picked up. There's a lot of people that were coming in. I think there's like I could, I don't know Mikey McCoy's wife's name, I think she said she was there. Mikey McCoy was there. I don't know who was on this plane, but I'm wondering about that first trip, not even the second trip. It makes sense that you would obviously go pick up people. We know people were racing there. Everyone was told the story a thousand times. But why was this plane in Salt Lake City in the first place? I I, that's what I'm interested in I guess if that makes sense to you guys And that is what we have been working on. All right, we are gonna take a break here quickly and then we'll be right back.

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2 (47m 33s):
There's another strand of this that is compelling to me and something that came, and again this is opinion. I tried, I, I didn't cover it because it's opinion, but a lot of people felt at Turning Point USA and I do mean a lot of people as in the wonderful people that work for the organization that are not at the top right. And they felt that Mikey McCoy was kind of being positioned to take over for Charlie Kirk and I never again covered it because you know, feelings are not facts. But given the picture that we now have of his father and what his father is involved in and the fact that Charlie was kind of veering from what I think was a predetermined course for Turning Point USA, I have a lot of questions.

2 (48m 19s):
Also, another person who wrote us was telling me the story about Tyler Boyer's involvement in like Maricopa County politics in general. Like what did he do before in Arizona? And yeah, it's just the kind of stories again that he said he approached him several times about Embezzlements, you know, char not Charlie Tyler was hooking up with young interns, young male interns or young male workers and he didn't even care. He was like, I would go on record 'cause all of this happened and I had the proof that all of this happened and I, everybody knows about Tyler Boyer at Turning Point USA. It's like an absurdity. But this is the person that is putting people into places of power at Turning Point USA. Like he's, he's just involved.

2 (48m 60s):
And something that was interesting is also how many Russian speakers there are. I was telling you like UVU, there's just a lot of Russians and people who study Soviet studies, even the president of UVU majored majored in Soviet studies. Tyler Boyer majored in Soviet studies, he's a fluent Russian speaker. He spent years, and I'm gonna assume when I say they speak Russian, that they're probably more tied to Ukraine. Like kind of coming full circle on that because a lot of times people wrongly assume that people who speak Russian are Russian and actually Ukrainians until they like made it a law. They had to stop speaking Russian quite recently were Russian speakers, right? Because it's Russia and it's their home. So it's interesting to consider that there are a lot of, I think even Mikey McCoy's wife might be Ukrainian.

2 (49m 44s):
Correct me if I'm wrong on that. But that's, that's something that I think is interesting as well or could be interesting. It might not be interesting. But definitely on a Tyler Boyer front, it's very interesting. He was involved with orphanages in the Ukraine, posted about helping Russian speaking orphans or whatever it is years ago, like I'm talking like 10 years ago. I just don't like it. I don't like it. The vibes don't feel right. What was going on? Why was Turning Point, you know, what, what was their campus doing? Why are people at Turning Point saying they don't know where the money's coming from? Why is no one seem to be grieving him in the right way? Why does it feel to me like a hostile takeover of a company?

2 (50m 23s):
That's how I personally feel. Okay. That's how I feel. I feel like this is a hostile takeover of a company and I feel that the company became bigger than Charlie because Charlie was too ambitious and Charlie trusted people and he trusted that people were in it for the right reasons. And what I have learned in politics is people are hardly ever in it for the right, the right reasons. Truly I if, if you are getting into politics, you think you're gonna meet good people, you're out of your mind. You are out of your mind. In fact, if you have a lot of friends in politics, I probably already know that I can't trust you because I know what it takes to keep friends in politics. Friends of Charlie Kirk, look what they're doing. Cash Patel, Charlie had him on his show.

2 (51m 3s):
Cash Patel should be the FBI drug. He fought for that. Look how Cash Patel is acting, right? 33 hours. Wink, wink, Freemasons, wink, wink, wink. Oh Tyler Robinson's file adds up to 33. Oh the Freemason Lodge in St. George or in Utah is number 33. It's like, we get it, okay. This was an assassination at a very high level and they do communicate with numerology and this, if this sounds above your head, it's probably 'cause you're not in my book club, but it is just to me the most sinister and sickening thing that these people can lay their heads on the pillow at night and they were just gonna keep going. Okay.

2 (51m 43s):
I feel a lot is adding up and that more people need to look into Turning Point Faith. They need to look into NAR again, I would follow Village, crazy Lady on X. She's fantastic at research and she has been keeping them on their toes with research and that is the area that she wants to go down. I can only chase so many rabbits and I think what we have an under an understanding of is an apparatus that was about anything but faith. Okay. I think actually when I now look at the picture and I'm learning more about robo and knowing that he was the co-chair in 2024 or maybe in 2023 of Turning Point USA, they believe, and this is why the Christian Zionism thing becomes so important that they can hijack our emotions and tell us that it's our biblical duty to support the state of Israel.

2 (52m 37s):
Because I think the state of Israel is probably involved in what is happening at the border in what is happening overseas. It's definitively involved in all these wars. I mean, everywhere you look, Israel pops up. I don't, it doesn't matter if you're talking about Congo, they'll be like, well, look up what the Christians being slurred in Congo. Oopsies, Dan Gertler, I mean the diamond thing. How are they number one in the diamond trade? They don't live in a place with diamonds that grow. So like, I mean, what are we even talking about? Like what are we talking about with this nation? What are we talking about? Charlie was a Christian Zionist because he believed that that was true. And I actually believe it is a perversion of scripture and I am begging you all those of you who go to these mega churches, those of you who are evangelical, who follow these evangelical influencers, you are probably noticing about now that they are mom on the topic of Charlie Kirk.

2 (53m 30s):
They wanna move on. They wanna let it be known that it's just a trans shooter. Not one of them is standing up and going, no, no, no, no. I spiritually feel that something is wrong. We all feel that something is spiritually wrong and yet these people are trying to tell you that there's nothing to see here. That needs to be your wake up call. If there is going to be a turning point, it is not going to be the one that they expected. Okay? I sense that there will be a turning point, but it is not going to be the one that they're banking on where a bunch of Christians are sold slop and are told that it is their God duty to support the nation of Israel while looking away from the fact that they're acting real weird. In the hours after Charlie assassination doing way too much, man is cartwheeling to tell you they had nothing to do with it.

2 (54m 14s):
They are asking you to set aside your instinct, your gut instinct, your God instinct. You recognize something is wrong. That's why you're watching this show. You are recognizing that the people around Charlie are not acting in the way that they should be acting. That their, their emotionality is not meeting the moment of violence that we all witnessed. Instead, they're turning on me. They're making videos about me for investigating. They're lying to you about where Charlie was on his faith journey. That's hush hush. The Catholic thing must stay hush hush. Why? It's all kind of adding up, right? They're attacking Tucker Carlson because he's attacking Christian Zionism. They're angry at, at, at Charlie because it's looking like he might get off the Christian's Zionist reservation.

2 (54m 58s):
'cause that's what it's okay. That's a plantation. And what they are, what they are mining is your emotion. What they are mining is your belief in God. And it is, there's no question in my mind it is corrupt, but it is also dangerous. It's dangerously corrupt. And I think that Charlie learned this lesson the hard way. I'm appreciative to all of you guys who are sending the emails, you're worried about my city. Please stop sending those. Okay, I understand what I'm doing. I have read my messages over and over again with Charlie, ones that I have not even revealed and this to me feels like a Christ mission to wake up the world and make them aware of what snake it is that has wrapped around all of the nations.

2 (55m 39s):
And it does so in the name of God, in the name of God, Christian Zionists are telling you to support a nation, okay? That has mass murdered children. You can watch the videos. They're telling you to do this because it is your biblical duty. When are you going to wake up? Charlie Kirk, he was the number one Zionist for a very long time. Christian Zionist for a very long time. Look at how they are treating him now that he's dead. They are lying on his name. You have to wake up, okay? It is my mission to share this information with you, to get you to wake up because I think Charlie was right.

2 (56m 20s):
I think there was something about me and him together, okay? That was, I don't know, like, like just meant to happen. You know? Not in the way that some of you guys are interpreting that the kid, he was literally my kid brother. But I mean like there was a a higher calling to his assassination, which he knew was coming. He knew he was going to die. He knew he said it from the time he started turning Point USA that his life was going to be short and he knew that I would be the one to fight for him. He knew that it was going to be me. That was going to be the one that would fight for him. He knew that I would be his David. And it is that relationship that we described yesterday, the David and the Jonathan. He was my friend, okay? I watched him work, but more than anything else, I laughed with him.

2 (57m 1s):
He was my friend. And you are not meant spiritually to watch your friend catch a bullet in the throat and you've got two things after that happens that you can do. Okay? You can run from it, you can run from it and say, I don't wanna end up like him. Or you can fight like hell to find out who did it to him. And I have chosen option two. Alright, I'm gonna take some of your comments after we get back from this brief break.

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2 (59m 58s):
All right guys, very quickly, because I am gonna jump to a dinner reservation, somebody made a comment and thank you for that. Charlie actually did fly into Salt Lake City, so that was his plane. So that does make sense. They would've had information. I was wondering why he was in Salt Lake City, but apparently he had an interview with Autology Summit. So you can ignore that tidbit. Comments from stars saying, making sure I send a super shot today since the Zionists want to call you vermin for having so many supporters of truth. We love you Candace. God bless you and your family and your whole team. Thank you so much. Jill writes, I'm so disappointed in my pastor Jack Hibbs. He was so close with Charlie and yet he hasn't said nearly enough in my opinion. Well, Jill continues Christian Zionist loyalty to Jews and Israel seems to have replaced loyalty to God, the church and the truth.

2 (1h 0m 40s):
Yeah, well look, he's another big pastor and I can tell you about Jack Hibbs. He was one that, he was another person that Prager you was pushing to me, wanting me to interview him. I may have even interviewed him, I can't remember, but they were like Pastor Jack Hibbs, pastor Jack Hibbs. And now I look at that and I'm, I'm thinking that's part of an operation that's likely part of an operation. All of these people that they wanted me to platform, Lila Rose, Jack Hibbs, Tim Ballard. I look back on that stuff and I'm reflecting and I realize that like I said, I had handlers and they were directing me to do things and I never really questioned things they were directing me to do until today. So Jack Hibbs was also a part of like a turning point USA faith event. And I am looking at turning point USA faith sideways, especially because like he doesn't even care about the allegations against Sean Foyt and what are they doing?

2 (1h 1m 25s):
It doesn't matter. We're just gonna keep on continuing working with him. Rob McCoy alpaca. Renee writes, God bless you Canice, you're a warrior for such a time as this. Thank you for all the hours of digging to find the truth I pray. Jeremiah 29 11 over you and your family. Thank you. Voiceless writes, I'd love to see how Google trends line up with these flights. Names of people who died in these shootings, shooters, et cetera. Well, as it turns out, one of those planes I forgot to mention, and it's the second one, the blue plane I believe was Googled by Israel. The tail number for that plane was Googled by Israel on September 8th, two days before the assassination. So take from that what you will. Tim Morgan writes Candace, check out Sean Foy and the allegations of financial ministry mismanagement online.

2 (1h 2m 9s):
And he and Pastor McCoy are planning a courageous Christianity tour to honor Charlie. I am really begging for the real Christians in this world to research these men to take, watch this episode over and over again to consider what I'm telling you, that there has definitively been an infiltration and Christian Zionists are at the helm of it. And I understand I'm at war now with all of them. That's fine. Okay, I understood that I was at war the moment Charlie caught the bullet. Okay, I get that. I get that. That what could follow. It's gotta be war, right? It's either total submission or war and I'm not gonna submit to these demons. Anyways, you guys, I'm sorry if I missed your comment. Norman Finkelstein, the interview with him. We bumped that because I felt like this was so important to get out.

2 (1h 2m 51s):
'cause we need to information share. That interview is going to release at 7:00 PM Eastern. So in about 30 minutes you stick around. It's an amazing interview and it's a timely interview. Given what I am saying to you about Christian Zionism. You need to wake up to what has happened in Gaza and what has actually been going on. And the scales may fall from your eyes as quickly as they fell from mine. On the topic of Israel, there is no justification. There definitively cannot be any Godly justification for what they have done and what they have always done in Gaza. It's not new, it's not to start in October 7th, okay? This has been going on since they stole their land at gunpoint. It has been an effective holocaust since 1948 by a legal definition of, of a holocaust, which norm Finkelstein will explain better than I do.

2 (1h 3m 35s):
And once you recognize the people defending that beyond this, you will start to look at them as possessed by some sort of a demon. And typically that demon is just money. Okay? They just want the money. And the Bible is explicit about that, right? You can't have both. And like I said, God's chosen people do not endorse that. In fact, only say in chosen people could. Anyways, we'll see you guys on Monday.

10/30/25

BREAKING NEWS! The Egyptian Military Was In Provo On 9/10. | Candace Ep 255




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All right, you guys. Happy Thursday and some breaking news for you because I knew it. I knew it. I didn't know know it, but I knew it and now ladies and gentlemen, I know know it. There were some Egyptian military men that were on the ground on September 10th in Utah on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination. And we now need to demand that they publicly released details of who those individuals were and why they were there. This is huge. Okay? In other news, Zionists are going crazy like they are every day. They really do not want us investigating Charlie Kirk's murder for some unknown reason.

1 (1m 11s):
They want us to stop noticing that there are so many issues in the story that they're trying to sell us, and now they're up in arms demanding that Tucker Carlson gets canceled from all future turning point USA conferences and you're never going to guess how they're trying to spin this. Well, you probably will guess it's antisemitism. Welcome back to Candace. Alright, so while I was away in Wyoming, I received a rather shocking tip.

1 (1m 52s):
There were, as I am sure you are aware, some inexplicable flights that were happening that day. And actually they're not even inexplicable. They could very easily be explained. It's just that the feds are kind of declining to do so, and we don't really have much information about those flights in particular. There was one flight who that had a, I would say describe it as an interesting morning. It was contracted by our military. For whatever reason, this plane departed from the Bigs army airfield at 6:13 AM that's down in El Paso, Texas, right? And despite the fact that they were heading to Montana, they decided to make an unusual dip at 9:16 AM Again, this is in Utah time, okay?

1 (2m 36s):
We're doing all this in mountain time. They dipped down to just 300 feet above ground over the Provo Airport runway and they made a loop. I'm going to show you a screenshot here from, this is from Flight Radar, so you can see that loop. And again, this is a, a military plane, a military contracted plane, and we know it's military because it's leaving from a military base. Okay? Really interesting thing happening there. Mark, if you wanna jump on right now, just to describe this for all, all of the women that are listening to this podcast, what we're seeing here with that chart on the bottom,

3 (3m 9s):
Happy to provide some mansplaining. So at the bottom you can see the, the altitude in the air speed of of the plane. You see it take off, goes to level flight and then you see it dip down in the middle there. And that's what we're looking at. The time on there says 3:16 PM but that's UTC, that's just the general time for airplanes. So you go back minus six hours to give you Utah time. So that gives us 9:16 AM and then it goes back up and then continues to Montana.

1 (3m 41s):
Okay? So it continued on to Kalispell, Montana, and then it lands for just under an hour before it again departs back for Texas once again on its return trip, it dips again to just over 300 feet over the Provo Airport runway. We're gonna show you that again, that this is from Flight Radar. That dip, I should tell you because there has been a lot of speculation about it online. That took place approximately 26 minutes after Charlie was assassinated. So that dip took place 26 minutes after, and then the plane went back home or back to the home base in El Paso.

1 (4m 22s):
Now it's possible, just to be fair here, that the plane was running a military training exercise that morning. Maybe they were training a new pilot on how to make a fake landing or something. I really don't know. But this flight path did indeed happen. We can confirm that. And it has been accurately reported that the plane is owned by a certain laci, L-A-S-A-I-L-L-C, regarding which there haven't been any more details provided because this has not exactly been the most transparent administration as they claim they were going to be. The second mysterious flight, which was well reported on at the time, I say this was the most reported upon flight again by the public, and which eventually created so much pressure that it was warranted.

1 (5m 10s):
A response from one of the owners of the plane, who was Derek? Derek Maxfield. He's married to Shalane Maxfield, the two of them, they're a billionaire couple from Utah. They run now, they run a human sex trafficking charity. There's a lot of human sex trafficking charities in Utah, and I should let you guys know that they are not the only owners of that plane. By the way, someone who didn't hit internet radar who also co-owns that plane with them is a person named Casey ba, B-A-U-G-H. Now I'm mentioning Casey BA because I found it when I was researching interesting that Casey BA has his name on an institute at UVU, the BA Entrepreneurship Institute, which operates out of the Woodbury Business Building.

1 (5m 57s):
Okay? I was like, whoa. When, when we didn't know any details, I was thinking like, Hey, did this person let somebody onto the rooftop? But of course now we know that Tyler Robinson was not on the Woodbury building or on campus at all for that matter. So Casey B is not a suspect for having provided him access in any way. But I will say that the BA Maxfield plane, I'm gonna take you through what that was doing. It caught a ton of attention because the plane departed from Provo, Utah at 1:20 PM Local time in theory. Then of course, yes, a person could have shot. Charlie Kirk went straight to the airport and then took off on a private plane. And why this got even more attention was because they seemingly turned their transponder off that alarmed the public.

1 (6m 44s):
Why is this plane terminating their transponder? Why don't we know? Why can't we see more data happening on this plane, right? Being collected from this plane. So obviously this couple, Derek and Shalane Maxfield were feeling the heat and they issued a statement the following day, sometime in the afternoon, about three o'clock on September 11th, and they said that contrary to a lot of the online conspiracies that were taking shape, the plane was actually empty when it departed Provo en route to Arizona, where he and some of his friends were picked up and they returned home to Provo. Okay? Some people thought, did they pick up like turning point USA people and returned back?

1 (7m 25s):
We don't know at all actually who was on that flight manifest at, in theory, it's not really our business, but of course, given the this high profile assassination, it feels like everything should be our business anyways. Here's what he said specifically, I'm gonna read his statement in its entirety For good measure, he wrote, Shalan and I join our community, our state, and our nation in mourning the death of Charlie Kirk. And we pray for his family and love loved ones during this difficult and tragic time. His death and the way that it occurred was both horrifying and senseless. We pray that the extensive efforts by law enforcement to locate Mr. Kirk's killer will be swift and successful. Spoiler alert, no, it has not been as often happens, unfortunately in the wake of such terrifying and public events of variety of baseless theories and suspicions around Mr.

1 (8m 8s):
Kirk's murder immediately took hold on social media including one that has unfairly impacted our family. To set the record straight, we provide the following facts. Yesterday at 1:20 PM Mountain Time, a private aircraft owned by one of our companies with the tail number N 8 8 8 KG, departed the Provo Airport for Page Arizona, pursuant to a pre-scheduled flight plan. Occupants at takeoff included two pilots and no passengers. That tail number arrived at Page Arizona Airport at approximately 1:55 PM Mountain Time at 12:55 PM local time. Upon arrival, I, Derek Maxfield boarded that plane along with seven additional passengers for the return trip to Provo.

1 (8m 51s):
We departed that PGA airport in Arizona at approximately one 40 and arrived at PVU at approximately 3:15 PM Mountain Time Radar services with air traffic control were terminated in mutual agreement between Denver FAA center and N 8 88 KG, approximately 10 miles from landing at PGA PGA, which is consistent with generally accepted standard practice when flying in and out of Nont towered airports like PGAN eight at eight kg pilots followed all FAA requirements and protocols, tower directions and the predetermined flight plan. This round trip was made at my request and solely for my purposes, any suggestion that the flights by NN eight eight kg yesterday are in any way connected to the tragic shooting of Mr. Kirk is inaccurate, false, and without any credible basis of any kind to our knowledge, no one associated with yesterday's flight by N 8 8 8 kg has been contacted by law enforcement for any reason.

1 (9m 51s):
And then they just say, we ask that you still, you just focus on bringing the people, bringing Charlie Kirk to justice the murder of Karl Charlie Kirk, finding some justice in that. Okay? So a couple of interesting things. He admits that like something like the services were terminated, but in compliance with law. So they didn't break the law when they did that at all. And what I can tell you is that I had a flurry of pilots that were working on getting details on that flight manifest, confirming its landing, et cetera. And things got a little bit weird. They were saying that it was unusual, that stuff that was pretty standard pro protocol. The feds seem to be guarding very strange. Now, I'm not saying this to implicate Derek Maxwell or Shalene Maxwell at all.

1 (10m 34s):
In fact, I I, that's why I wanted to read their statement in their entirety. But I am telling you that the Feds were guarding this just like they were guarding the Dairy Queen. It was weird. Even airport personnel had been instructed to lie. Actually, situation was therefore not routine. And if you haven't caught on, I'm not really here for all of these extraordinary anomalies that just keep happening, right? Information is power. We want the information so we can dispel the rumor. I don't see any reason, by the way, Derek and Shalan, if you wanna reach out to me and tell me personally who was on the manifest, and I can just say, and I actually haven't offered you that until this moment, I'd be, I would be glad to dispel all the rumors in innuendo if the feds are telling the airport to lie. For some reason, there was one person who said they were supposed to land at millionaire FBO, but then suddenly they shifted to another FBO and things were weird.

1 (11m 23s):
I would happy to clear up everything for you in a way that makes sense and it could genuinely be because the government is so inefficient. Major point that I wanna make here is that the biggest anomaly that has happened is this kind of foreign angle. Like right away they just got out in front of it and we're like, there's nothing to see here. And we discovered, and I broke the story, that there was actually a third plane, which I found to be quite odd. I reported on it. And the Zionists immediately seemed to me too panicked, right? They issued what I describe as a false debunking regarding the point that I was making. What they do in circumstances like that is when you say something that's really big, they focus on something really small and inconsequential, like an error that you made and I did make in terms of time zones.

1 (12m 14s):
And they go, oh, well this has been debunked, right? It's being completely debunked. You saw this in the Braquet case. She started going after people for defamation, not people that wasn't attacking them for the substance of the claim that you were born male, because she was, but rather she goes off after them like she's going after me for saying, oh, well actually you're saying that I stole my sister's ID and that's a crime, so I'm gonna sue you for that. And then the media runs with it and says, oh, this has been debunked. Nothing is being debunked. And when they do that, when they focus on that, you know they're hiding something. Okay? When they focus on something that's totally inconsequential, a minor mistake that you make, they're hiding something. So I reported that on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination, an Egyptian Air Force plane took off from Provo, Utah Airport.

1 (12m 59s):
I reported that even more curiously, that Egyptian military plane had previously only ever been to the United States twice in that past year. And both times it was in the lead up in the weeks leading up to c Charlie Kirk assassination. Okay? Here is that plane, the tail number you can see here is S-U-B-T-T. And this is a screenshot again from Flight Radar. Now of course, when I pointed out that this foreign military plane arrived on September 4th, so six days before into Provo, Utah, and departed six days later on September 10th, they ignored the huge substance of this, which is why is this Egyptian military plane here in the middle of Utah?

1 (13m 47s):
Instead, they said, oh, she made a time zone mistake. Like as if I'm on flight radar every day accustomed to reading the data here. Yeah, I thought that I was looking at mountain time, like local time on flight Radar as Mark just explained. No, they do it according to Universal time. Okay? Big deal. Like actually big deal. Then I saw that the one random Twitter user that caught that mistake suddenly got boosted in the algorithm and they made it a trending story. Like it was like trending story. This has been debunked. And I was like, ah, I've been telling you guys for a while. The military runs X, like not Elon Musk, the military, these are military bots that you're seeing on X, but that was essentially the vibe Egyptian military plane. Don't look over here.

1 (14m 27s):
We have debunked. It has nothing to do with Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory because she got the time zone wrong. It was actually the, the flight departed a couple of hours earlier than she said, okay, you know me, that just makes me more curious. Anytime you see a Snopes level debunking as I like to term it, it means you're onto something. Anyways, I was going through the DCIA tips box, you know, our decentralized intelligence agency tips box, and I found a very interesting email. I'm gonna be very careful here to make sure I don't give this person away, but it was someone from a foreign country. They wrote us claiming to have intimate knowledge regarding the flight, and you can take what I'm about to tell you to the bank, okay?

1 (15m 14s):
In fact, you can even take this as a direct challenge to Cash Patel to dispute what I am going to say thus far. Have you noticed that no one has done that. Like when I say something like, oh, she must be lying. Oh, the screenshots must be fake. This is, obviously Charlie didn't say this, oh, the thing is lying about the Catholic thing. Oh, but nobody's doing any debunking here because I make sure always that I have solid proof of what I am saying before I say it. And I feel that I have been presented with absolute solid proof from this individual who is in proximity to one of the individuals that was aboard this flight. Okay? I can now report to you that it is a fact that on nine four there were, this was not some dropping by in Utah as they were trying to claim because the, the plane needed to be serviced.

1 (16m 7s):
That's what they ran with. They ran with this could have been a re a routine servicing. I guess there's just no place from Egypt all the way to Utah that an Egyptian military plane can like get a tire changed. This is totally routine, nothing you see here. Well, I'm telling you that for a fact, that plane was carrying military subcontractors and for a fact, they were dropped off in Provo, okay? And that they did not make it back to Cairo. They showed you, I showed you the plane left, they left on September 10th, it then laid over in Wilmington, Delaware and departed back for Cairo on the 11th.

1 (16m 52s):
I am telling you that when that plane left, okay, those people were mysteriously missing from that plane. Okay? What's going on here? Why are Egyptian military subcontractors, what are Egyptian military subcontractors doing in the middle of Provo, Utah on the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated? Okay, you again, I am saying as a fact, cash Patel, please feel free to dispute this. In fact, I I almost demand that you dispute it. I think you must. You've been saying everybody's conspiracy theorist, conspiracies are dangerous.

1 (17m 34s):
Thinking is dangerous. That aircraft was not in Utah for any routine servicing. Okay? Rather extraordinarily, this person told me that it was there on some discreet mission, so discreet that this individual was scared for their life to present this information, but felt compelled to present it because they too were horrified like the rest of the world. Again, the mistake that was made here was executing him publicly. People felt something right? They felt something. They, they, they understood whatever happened here was a tremendous act of evil.

1 (18m 15s):
And so what it led to was goodness, more goodness, more people standing up and doing something brave and saying, we need to root out this evil from our society. What were they doing there? When did they leave? Who are these individuals? I don't understand Kash Patel, tell us about this flight. Tell us who was on it. Okay? I wanted to be very thorough here in presenting this information. So I was like, let's actually upgrade our flight radar account so we can go back three years on this plane's flight history, which is really the max setting that you can have on flight radar if you get a business account. And here is what we pulled together for you guys so that you don't have to pay for a business account, which is way too expensive, especially for me, who doesn't actually use flight radar often, but I am doing whatever I can to solve the murder of Charlie Kirk.

1 (19m 7s):
Here it is three years. You can see November in 2022. We can go back as far as November and December of that year. We can see that it routinely flies through Paris. And I noticed, and you can take your time to freeze this and go through everything as I'm not gonna read it all. I noticed that the trend here is that it always flies to an Air force base. Okay? Look, in 2025, if you look under 2025, you will see this is what it did. It went from September 4th. September 4th. It went from Cairo to Paris to France to Minot, North Dakota.

1 (19m 48s):
On September 10th, it departed Provo, I think I'm missing one here, right? It, no, it departed. That's right. September 10th it departed Provo, Utah at 7:14 AM local time, okay? And I am telling you that aboard that plane, it was not the same people that got onto that plane. Okay? That is what I am told by this individual. She's saying that what actually took place was that they had some Egyptian military subcontractors person that she knows intimately. I would not have taken this to the bank. I had to really walk her through having the courage to do this any further.

1 (20m 29s):
And I am certain that this happened and I am certain I feel and feel like the rest of us feel that we are not getting a full picture. Now, I will again stress that this individual never ever said that the mission, the secret mission was related to Charlie Kirk. In fact, they were explicit that they weren't entirely sure what the specific mission was, but that it was top secret. Maybe playing devil's advocates, right? And to be clear, when you play devil's advocate, you're advocating for the devil. So that's what I'm actually kind of doing here. But maybe it was a joints military exercise of some description that was so discreet, so discreet that it required just like you know, everybody to ignore it for the military, to boost a random account to pretend that it was nothing to lie.

1 (21m 22s):
And pretend that this per, that this plane was here because it needed to be serviced in some capacity. That's not true. But maybe it was because look, joint military exercise between Egypt and America for some unknown reason, and Provo, Utah was the place they had to do this and they decided to leave this, this plane. And maybe the people are still in Utah. I don't know, but I'm demanding that we find out, okay? And when you couple that information with what was trending yesterday, right? This is the headline that came out of the Daily Mail. Cash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe in an explosive feud with Trump's counter terror chief.

1 (22m 7s):
It really makes you wonder what Cash Patel is hiding. There's absolutely no reason for Cash Patel to say only I'm the person that's supposed to be looking into this. It makes no sense. If he is interested in solving Charlie Kirk's murder, then Cash Patel would be working with everyone. Everyone across all departments would be locking arms and saying, Charlie Kirk was a wonderful friend. He did everything he could to put this administration into power. In fact, Trump would be late night tweeting being like, I don't accept this narrative. Trump would be asking questions. His sons would be asking questions. Turning point USA executives would be asking questions. But instead Cash Patel is saying, don't ask questions.

1 (22m 49s):
Everything that you're hearing is, is a conspiracy. He homey has really turned into Dr. Fauci, okay? This is like Dr. Dr. Cash Patel Fauci here who's telling us that to look any further would be somehow wrong to have a legacy of Charlie. It would be harmful for us to ask questions. It would be harmful for us to think. That's what I'm saying, stop thinking. So that's the phase that we are at where people are trying to pretend that to protect Charlie's legacy, we have to say less. It's the exact opposite. We have to say more. And again, I am personally challenging you Cash Patel, and you're super transparent. Super transparent administration to dispute what I'm saying.

1 (23m 29s):
Tell us in confidence that this plane came in by itself because it just needed to be serviced. You know, just nothing here between here and Egypt just needed, you know, put some fuel in the tank and then go home, answer the questions that we are asking. I am telling you, I feel it that this flight, if we learn more about it, if we can figure out who is on this manifest, there is going to be a lot of questions that are answered in terms of what happened on September 10th. Okay? I'm not positive, but I have a pretty good gut feeling at the way that they behaved when I pointed out this flight, which is to lie and to explain Nothing means that they're scared and has them shook.

1 (24m 9s):
And of course it's in the Middle East. So I'm thinking there might've been some foreign involvement in Charlie Kirk's assassination in which you guys, we are going to take a break and then put you through a Seth Dylan level struggle session to explain to you that the best way to honor Charlie Kirk is to cancel Tucker Carlson or something. Anyways, we'll be right back.

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1 (27m 57s):
Okay, I wanna clarify one thing because Mark was main splinting me, mansplaining in my ear, and he is right. I wanna make sure that I, I speak perfectly when I said that the Egyptian flights in its past flights to America had landed on American air bases. I didn't mean they physically landed on American air bases. I meant that they landed in cities where there are Air force bases. And the notable exception here is that Provo does not have an Air Force base. They have one in Salt Lake City, but they do not have one in Provo. So I hope that makes more sense there. Now let's switch gears. I can't wait to see what you guys dig up. I also should add that if you know someone else on this flight manifest, guys, I don't care where you are in the world as this person just proved, doesn't matter where you are.

1 (28m 43s):
If you have information, please email us at more tips@candaceowens.com pertaining to this, this Egyptian flight, this military flight. What was it doing? Maybe you checked them at a hotel nearby, right? Maybe they, they were over the border and you saw randomly a bunch of people leading up to this between those dates. Let's see, it landed into Provo on nine four and then it departed on nine 10. There must have been hotels presumably. Maybe they're not. Maybe they're staying with certain friends. Let me know. Did you see some Egyptian looking dudes in Utah? I feel like that way they would stand out in Utah maybe, right? I think they definitely would. Please let us know more tips@candaceowens.com.

1 (29m 26s):
It is really amazing to see the whole world come together trying to solve this. It just makes me so happy. All right, jumping into this rather hilarious story, irrespective of whether or not you personally support the nation of Israel or not. I cer, most certainly do not. You've gotta admit that the public representatives of Israel, the Zionists that have platforms are insane. I'm talking clinically insane. Need to be shipped off to rehab for a couple of weeks. Malibu, we get you into kitchen next to the sea or something and they have come undone. They've never actually really been done on the topic of Tucker Carlson or myself, but this is exceptional. The backstory here is that Tucker Carlson, in case you missed it, hosted Nick Fuentes on his show.

1 (30m 9s):
And to be clear, I've hosted Nick Fuentes on my show. I don't like Nick Fuentes and truly not because of anything he said in the past. Because how he treated me and my team and how he lied on me after it. So I, I actually am judging him based on my experience with him, okay? I don't really believe in cancel culture and it was why I platformed him in the first place. He said something when he was 18 and went through the gamut that I went through that Tucker's going through right now I'm a 36-year-old adult and I'm equipped to handle that. Not so fair for an 18-year-old kid to go through that. I've been clear about that and that person should get a second chance to explain their story. So Tucker invited him on to have a conversation. And this has led to people insisting that Tucker Carlson gets canceled from all Turning Point future events.

1 (30m 54s):
Now why are they saying he should be canceled? Well, because it's so dangerous that he platformed Nick Fuentes who has said terrible things online and Nick Fuentes has been adversarial with Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk didn't like Nick Fuentes. So why is Sucker Carlson speaking to him? Like that's their logic. I spoke to him. I don't like Nick Fuentes. I speak to people I don't like to the whole time. Actually, it's a good thing to do. You should get out and speak to people who you disagree with, people who you dislike. It's okay to dislike people. It's not okay to demand that other people be canceled for hosting them and having a conversation with them or maybe liking the person. Maybe people want to listen to him. Anyways, this led to Josh Hammer, who is our resident psycho, who really does look like that.

1 (31m 35s):
Like this is not, that's not ai, okay? That's not ai. He wrote an op-ed in the Daily Mail, which they actually published calling for Tucker Carlson to be neutralized. Yeah, this is him. The guy who mysteriously calls for public executions the night before. And then he always backtracks and goes, Hey, hey, hey. That's not what I meant. That's not what I meant when I said that. He actually published this. Op-ed says Tucker Carlson just hit a new low with this heinous betrayal of my friend Charlie Kirk, who is surely now rolling in his grave. This is the, yes, you're right. Is this the same Josh Hammer you're thinking who lied about Charlie's views on Israel changing even though he was on the text message chain? He lied over and over and over again, plus tried to sell his book.

1 (32m 16s):
Is he actually writing an op-ed claiming that it is Tucker Tucker Carlson, who is apparently heinous. Yes, he's doing that. This is a direct quote from that oped. He wrote, this looks like a war on MAGA and the modern American, right? If this looks like a, a war on MAGA and the modern, modern American, right? That's because that is exactly what it is. Carlson and his clan had declared their jihad not on the woke forces of civilizational arson on the addle brained left. But on the forces of civilizational sanity on the maga, right? They hope to burn down MAGA and build a neopagan anti-Western anti-biblical movement in its head. The box is now comfortably ensconced in the henhouse.

1 (32m 58s):
And unless the fox is neutralized, the victim could be the entire ex DT GOP coalition itself. He actually wrote that, he published that. And it's just incredible because you will notice this thing that all of the people who are now saying that they represent the MAGA movement weren't in it. They are literally people that were the never Trump movement in 2015. None of them, they're just like, they're like, we've infiltrated MAGA and now we're gonna tell you how to turn it into the losing movements that we all represented. Here's how you do it. Censorship, right? We infiltrated maga. We paid Trump forever. In fact, these people were all pro DeSantis, even when Trump was up against Ron DeSantis, okay?

1 (33m 40s):
They were against Trump. They have held the line in hating Trump forever. And now that Trump is inevitable, meaning he's in office and there's nothing they can do about it and he is not gonna be reelected. They're pretending that they support Trump and that they're super MAGA by demanding that MAGA cancels Tucker Carlson, who is adored and loved by the MAGA base. Of course, now if you think it can't get any more ridiculous, you gotta check out this very real tweet from the stop anti-Semitism hysterical account. That account awarded me last year, the top anti-Semite of the year. Thank you for all of you who voted and and made sure that I won that they actually didn't give me any award, which feels pretty cheap to me. Please don't put me on your account for saying cheap.

1 (34m 21s):
I'm sure that's not good. Anyways, stop Antisemitism actually tweeted this. CNN platforming, Anna Kaspar turning point USA, refusing to cut Tucker Carlson. This is how the Holocaust started. Jew hatred normalized. Isn't that, I don't know, is that actually how the holocaust started? I'm asking, I'm asking for a front. Maybe I need to be reeducated here. Is that what happened? Tucker Carlson, someone like Tuck Carlson just had a conversation with someone that he disagrees with. Anna Kasper went on to like CNN and that was it. Then there was a holocaust and it has to be stopped.

1 (35m 3s):
I mean, it's not even good. The level of emotional manipulation here isn't even good. It's, it's obviously funny. You should laugh 'cause it's hilarious. They're not good anymore. Were we, I were we convinced by this before? Probably maybe. We all thought every time you mentioned the Holocaust, you go, I must do my part to make sure it doesn't happen. But to hear them say this in, in this ridiculous and absurd manner, we have to recognize that this has always been a manipulation tactic. That's exactly what it's, they are trying to manipulate us to censor people and we're not gonna do it anyways. Seth Dylan, another resident Psycho on X, who pretended once upon a time that he was like a funny guy, just telling jokes, went on to Pi Morgan and decided to put Dave Smith, who I love through a struggle session explaining why.

1 (35m 47s):
And yes, this is the same. Seth Dylan at that notorious Hamptons summit who I told you pressed Charlie and a couple weeks before he died was horrific to Charlie. Made Charlie feel as if he was suddenly sitting down and being told that his viewpoints had changed and it was unacceptable. It was a total peer pressure event or wound up being that in large part, thanks to Seth Dylan who was leading the pack on questioning Charlie on his changing views. Anyways, he has the audacity to put Dave Smith through a struggle session discussing this interview. Let's watch a clip of it.

4 (36m 22s):
Well, I think that it would've been a responsible thing and a good thing for the conservative movement. If someone as prominent as Tucker with as large of audience as he has, if you, if he was standing in the way of Nick Fuentes becoming more mainstream, I think that would be a good thing for everybody. And I'm disappointed that it come. Lemme just, but he's free to do whatever he wants to do. Okay, I'm fine. I'm free to criticize him for not handling the interview the way that I think it should have been responsibly handled. Certainly, I think it was extremely irresponsible.

5 (36m 47s):
Okay. Okay. Certainly you're free, you're free to criticize them. You know, I would say that for all the people, by the way, who are so upset that Candace and, and Nick Fuentes have become so huge, like honestly dude, talking to guys like you, you have no one but yourself to blame for that. It's all over the Israel issue, man. And the reason why they got so much support behind them is 'cause they were against this destruction of Gaza was just like the most just horrible, inexcusable, inexcusable thing ever. But

1 (37m 15s):
I mean, that's a fact. It was low hanging morality. Hey, I'm against killing children. They tried to put all of us through how dare you can if you're an antisemite for saying or not looking the other way. 'cause they're Palestinians and I guess I'm supposed to think that their life is not worth as much as an Israeli life. Like one Israeli life is equivalent to a thousand Palestinian children or something. And I rejected that and I've been pretty principled across the board on all matters. And that that is why I think my audience grew, certainly didn't grow because I was telling other people they had to shut up. I'm not a part of cancel culture, I don't care. I got into, got into it with Nick Fuentes never once said, cancel him, take him off Twitter. Someone needs to do this. If I feel that my ideas are better than something or someone, if I feel that my ideas are are valid, I'll see you in the free markets.

1 (38m 1s):
But these people can't win in the free markets. So now they're demanding censorship and it's going to get, by the way, a lot worse than this starting point. We'll get into that in a little bit, but first I want to let you watch this second clip of what Seth Dylan, who clearly does not have a soul after waited to Charlie clearly is trying to pretend that he's Charlie's friend and now trying to use Charlie's legacy by pretending that somehow Tucker Carlson is not a true friend to Charlie because Charlie didn't like Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson spoke to him. Watch this. Truly, this is a psychological operation. These people are nutty. Take a listen.

4 (38m 37s):
I wanna know what Dave thinks about Tucker. Essentially calling Charlie Kirk a heretic by saying that anybody who's a Christian Zionist is a, is a heretic. I mean that that was Charlie Kirk was it? Not

5 (38m 48s):
O okay, but I mean, I think obviously he's speaking about evangelical Christians in general and saying that this violates the Bible like to, to make it about Charlie

4 (38m 55s):
Kirk. That seems like a, that's a circle that Charlie Kirk fits inside. It applies to him.

5 (38m 60s):
Okay, but he's, okay, so he's criticizing a view that Charlie Kirk had. Yeah, I disagreed with Charlie on that too. So what's your point?

4 (39m 5s):
He said he hates those people more Than's weird to use. He said he hates, he said he hates those people more than anybody else and called them heretics. And yet he spoke at Charlie Kirk's memorial. So glowingly, how do you, how do you reconcile those two things?

5 (39m 17s):
Yeah, he obviously didn't hate Charlie Kirk. There you go. This is, come on, this is like ridiculous. Yes, he's, he's making a a point that he thinks that actually the Christians who put Israel above their own government and believe that like only Jesus can come back if the Jews control the area. That that is goofy and I agree.

4 (39m 36s):
Yeah. Well if you say you hate people that have Charlie's views, then you're saying you hate Charlie.

5 (39m 41s):
Yeah. Okay. I don't, I don't if that's the argument you wanna go with. Okay.

1 (39m 46s):
Actually, the argument I'd like to go with is that Seth down is a liar, which is why two days before Charlie Kirk was killed, he was explicit in saying he was left with no choice but to lead the pro issue of cause, which would mean he didn't die a Christian Zionist, right? Common sense Charlie, in his own words and sat down, you're aware of this because you put him through two weeks before the struggle session in the Hamptons, what was it? August 5th and sixth, pressing him on the things that he said about Bibb net and Yahoo. He was hosting people to have that discussion. But you know, I guess for some Zionists you would say it was almost fortunate that Charlie Kroger is no longer here to take that last step that you knew he was taking. You didn't want another Tucker Carlson or Canice Owens people who were very much in the Per Israel camp and left it because we could not stand your immorality.

1 (40m 31s):
We could not stand your lies, and we could not possibly think that God's chosen people would allow it. Okay? God's chosen people don't lie. God's chosen people don't kill hundreds of thousands of people and then try to tell you that they're the victim because they're spending tons of money on Christian Zionists. And yes, it's absolutely a heresy to get up on stage and to lie about what is in the Bible, to try to use it to manipulate people, to tell them that what's right here in the Bible is that they shouldn't follow Taylor Carlson or Candace Owens. And yes, I would deem you to be therefore a heretic. So I hope I'm clear about what I think you are right.

1 (41m 10s):
People of your ilk are people that pretend to be Christians and make a ton of videos, some of them simply because they're paid to do so, some of them because they're in the military and these are their instructions and manipulate people who are well-meaning and want to become close to God by telling them that they won't be saved unless they support this abomination in the Middle East. So anyways, this leads us, of course, Charlie's last words in that text chain, he fought tooth and nail to make sure that Tucker Carlson stayed on the turning point. USA speaking list. That that's the reality, okay?

1 (41m 51s):
That's the reality. Those were virtually his last public words that we can read from his private text exchanges was that he wanted Tucker Carlson, and now you're trying to convince us that the best way to honor him would be not to listen to what Charlie Kirk himself said. This leads us to another episode of our new smash hit HBO series micro series, which I executively produce, take a listen.

6 (42m 16s):
And he basically said, I don't appreciate being morally blackmailed. And you know, and every time people would say that to him, he would dig his heels in. It is like, well, maybe Tucker's gonna give two speeches now to fest. She's

7 (42m 27s):
Got the screenshots from an internal chat that Charlie was doing with T-P-U-S-A and right up there it says, just lost another huge Jewish donor, 2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. And I'm thinking of inviting Candace, whoa,

8 (42m 45s):
A few moments later. It brings me no pleasure to criticize Tucker Carlson as much as I have been doing, but he has become the leading tip of the spear of what can only be described as a cancerous force threatening to engulf the entire American right to,

1 (43m 9s):
They just can't stop, man. They just cannot curb that Zionism. They can't do it. We'll see, we'll keep, keep notations on these individuals. Anyways, I wanted to read this email that came in because yesterday in the q and a section, somebody had asked, what do you think Charlie met when he said that he wanted you to be his? David? And I took the obvious answer, which was to slay a Goliath, right, to slay the Goliath. And somebody wrote me this email and reminded me of course, of the narrative beyond David slaying Goliath, David, and his unique friendship with Jonathan in the Bible. And I am going to read that email to you. Somebody wrote, Candace, David and Jonathan were biblical figures from the Bible who shared a deep and profound friendship forming a covenant of mutual support.

1 (43m 58s):
Jonathan was the son of King Saul, and David was a shepherd who became a great warrior and future king. Their bond was strong despite the fact that Saul became jealous of David's success, leading him to threaten David their bond. The friendship began after David defeated Goliath and grew into an unlikely but profound friendship. The Bible describes Jonathan's loving David as quote his own soul and forming a covenant with him. Jonathan's loyalty was so great that he gave David his robe, his armor, and other symbols of rank and act that has been interpreted as a transfer of succession. Jonathan's support Jonathan repeatedly protected David from his father Saul, warning him of the king's intentions to kill him.

1 (44m 42s):
After Jonathan's death. David grieved deeply for his friend. He later honored his promise to Jonathan by taking care or his son. I love that. I actually love that interpretation that I didn't even consider in that moment when I answered that question. And I, I do, I I just love it. I just wanted to say thank you to the person who wrote the email and maybe consider that that it, it really is about honoring your friend and properly grieving for your friend and realizing that you will not be able to be perceived as someone who even cared about the individual. If you don't fight for them, if you don't stand up for them, if you don't look after their legacy, take care of their legacy. Don't allow these people like the Josh Hammers and the Seth Dylans to try to invade and quite literally turn Charlie Kirk into someone he is not, not for a single second.

1 (45m 29s):
Do I believe that Charlie would've considered shutting down Tucker Carlson because he sat down with Nick Whitehead? It is so beyond the realm of possibility that it is sickening to watch them do this. It really shows you, for those of you that are in my book club, what I was talking about when, when we read that last book about how they do this after death, they fight for the person's legacy, even though they were the very same people who were harassing them. Very same people that were making Charlie Ill with the threats, with the money who were pressing him at the Hampton, Seth Dylan, Josh Hammer on the text, hearing what he was going through, seeing what he was going through will then say, oh, I, I proclaim myself the in charge of that person's legacy.

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It's twisted. It's, it's very, very twisted, but everybody can see it. There's no doubt that everybody can see it. All right, you guys, I wanna run for you one more time before I get into your comments that tomorrow we're going to be dropping this amazing episode, me having sat down with Norm Finkelstein. So take a listen.

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The Economist magazine, it describes Gaza as quote, a human rubbish sheep. The leading Yu Un official on Gaza describes it as quote, a toxic dump for the people of Israel. Gazen are vermin, they're garbage, they're human refuse.

1 (46m 55s):
You guys were the ones that insisted, totally

9 (46m 58s):
Agree,

1 (46m 59s):
Insisted that we all have a perspective on October 7th. Then when we looked and we pierced that veil, we went, oh my goodness, how was I ever parisa? And now you want us to shut up?

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There is a problem here. A billion billionaire class of Jewish supremacists, our now flagrantly using money as a black male weapon to silence, not just criticism of Jews, but silence, criticism of an ongoing genocide.

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1 (48m 27s):
I am very, very, very excited about that. You're gonna love it. It's like I said, even if you support Israel and that is perfectly your right, I think that you'll become educated on a topic that has been by and large guarded by the mainstream media. I think Americans have been extremely ignorant because I was among them, I was extremely ignorant on this topic. I think Jewish Americans are ignorant on this topic too, because that's how this was designed. That's how this whole like pro-Israel matrix was designed to keep us dumb. Just wanna shout out before we go to some more sponsors that somebody just dropped $500 to say this comment and it's hilarious. They wrote, I Can't with Josh Hammer's lip gloss. You go Queen. It is, yeah, it it's not a good look. I don't think it's a good look, Josh, but I shouldn't say that because on top of the struggle session or, or within the struggle session that Seth Dillon was putting, actually, was this on a separate show?

1 (49m 18s):
Okay. It was not Pi Morgan Wright Skyler. Okay. Listen to what Seth Dillon says about why Nick Fuentes is a terrible human. I don't know why, but this made me laugh out loud. 'cause it's quite childish. Take a listen.

4 (49m 31s):
He's got the right to talk to Nick if he wants to. I think what a lot of people are expecting though, from a conversation like that, is if you're gonna bring somebody who's like the leader of the groupers, who has so much animosity for Jews and, and is just, you know, he says the, the most horrible things, you know, like he, he said, well, I don't even know if I, I can repeat some of the things that he said, but you know, he, he called, he's called JD Vance's names, you know, calling him fat and ugly and he, that he has a brown family, you know, like just his attitude towards minorities, towards women, towards Jews and the things that he said, the glorification of Hitler. You know, these are all things that you would think Tucker claiming to be a Christian and a and a decent person would have a lot of interest

1 (50m 11s):
Pressing. Okay, I, that's okay. I think I, we can all deal. JD B is a big boy, okay? If he got called fat, he can, he can address that or actually just be an adult and not care at all because you're married. Oh, he got, he got called fat and ugly and brown. Who cares? Like, welcome to the internet. These are, these are men that are in their forties. If you cannot deal with somebody calling you names, just so you know, the internet is optional. Watching Tucker Carlson sit down with Nick Fuentes is optional. If you don't like someone, you are not required by law to watch their content. So toughen up buttercup. The thing that upsets me the most is that these are the kinds of people that rule over us. You know what I mean? Like these are the, like Josh Hammer is actually the editor at large at Newsweek openly talking about his hostilities towards white men, right?

1 (50m 60s):
Because he views Jewish people as a separate race. He believes he's a Jewish supremacist. There's no question that that's what Josh Hammer is 'cause the way he speaks about European white men. And yet he's just allowed to be at a higher station in life than you. Why? Because of his connections or something. Does he seem to be more intelligent than you? Absolutely not. So the whole thing is absolutely wacky that they can't deal with something as soft as he called them fat and ugly and brown. Like, okay, like every second of the day, I am being called mean names. All right, we're gonna get to a couple of sponsors and then I'll read the rest of your comments.

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Alright, you guys, you can see here that the new tandis cups have been shipped out. I have it. It is beautiful. We don't know. No, but we know. I told you we restocked them. I think we still have some online. Also, the book, I am so happy. Make him a Sandwich is finally out. It really was Labor of Love. You guys can head to make him a sandwich.com if you would like to support my work, my independent work. I am not yet funded by guitar. I'm desperate to be funded by guitar. I don't know why they won't call me. Anyways, make him a sandwich.com. If you would like to read the book, it's a good one. I promise you you're gonna really enjoy it. Couple of more comments here, sister Bethy writes, Candace, I am on the floor. I think just generally the screenshot of Josh Hammer, which is gonna deeply upset Seth Dills, she was so mean.

1 (55m 42s):
So mean. Caitlyn Wright. Hey Candace, I'm a huge fan and I believe all of what you say is true and genuine, but it does feel like you are drip feeding us. The information that you have about Charlie's death and the betrayals around him episode by episode, are you unable to lay it out all at once for us? And what can be done about Cassius corruption? Yes, I am obviously drip feeding that would, it would not be smart for me to tell them everything that I know because I'm trying to figure out who the rats are on the ship. And that is why I've been intentionally setting bait, giving a little bit of information and allowing them to lie. That is just the smart way to go about this obviously, because I know that there's rats on the ship. Some I know for certain, but if I out those people, then the other ones can protect themselves and distance themselves.

1 (56m 25s):
I don't know everybody that is on the ship. So, and who has betrayed Charlie. So it's, this is the process that we are going through. And by the way, what I don't know, which is kind of the big point of this, I don't know actually who pulled the trigger and killed Charlie Kirk. Right? And so there's kind of two running investigations who betrayed Charlie Kirk and I, by the way, make the argument that everyone is betraying him right now by not speaking out and telling the truth. I would say that, right? And then there's the other element of his who actually killed Charlie Kirk. Carrie Jean writes, Charlie saw you as his David in one Samuel. Jonathan loved David like his own soul. Protected him, handed him the robe and sword of kingship. He died young, never seeing the throne, but David finished the fight, wield the sword, finished the fight.

1 (57m 6s):
Love that. Thank you so much. Actually, I think you might've been the person that wrote me the email yesterday. I can't remember if it was Kerry, obsessed with sports rights, Egypt's tail numbers, S-U-B-N-D and SUBT tt. Were at Peace 2025. What is that Mark? Help me. Mansplain after And Hades the tail number N 1 0 9 8 L is so concerning since there are now Israeli defense companies that are making air launched drones for recon and as loitering. Munitions be Well, sister Crisis King. So that second plane is the Laci LLC one. He's talking about N 1 0 9 8 L. He is saying is concerning because now that plane which flew up to Montana and turned around, he is claiming, and I have not fact checked, this is being used by Israeli defense companies.

1 (57m 58s):
I can look into that. I

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Didn't, I didn't find anything on that plane being at that summit. But here's a screenshot of where that plane was at the moment. Charlie was shot. I know a lot of people said the plane was flying over at that exact moment, but it was actually in Idaho.

1 (58m 12s):
Right? 20 minutes, about 20 minutes out. Right. It didn't, it didn't get over Provo until 20 minutes after he was shot, right? Correct. That's what I said earlier. Okay, great. Perfect. Thank you for mansplaining. Gotta bring you back on. Always a pleasure keyboard. RN Explorer writes, Josh Hammer looks like Count Dracula. I am waiting for him to start counting his lies. Okay? If you call him Count Dracula, okay, they're gonna start saying that we should be banned from X. This is how they are. They need censorship to protect their feelings. So you better be very careful. RN Explorer. Keyboard Warrior writes, thank you Candace and George for opening my eyes to Catholicism. For years, I was a lukewarm Christian and I was agnostic.

1 (58m 52s):
I became curious of George's story and I binged his interviews. My eyes are now open. I attend mass and I pray the rosary. OCIA is next. Congratulations. I think it used to be called RCIA. That is the the program that you have to go through now. It's O-C-I-A-I am hearing, and yeah, I, I'm very excited to hear that. And also even more excited to know that we contributed to that journey, especially George who rarely does interviews, but I always can book him at the end of year. You guys know that I can book George at least once a year, and we're coming towards the end of the year. So I'm gonna shoot my shot. Candace Jackson writes, just showing love and support for you, Candace, God bless you in the work that you are doing. You are an amazing friend, an incredible truth teller and a researcher. And JE is a man, careful, or she'll sue you, not because you said she was a man, but because you said something else that she didn't like.

1 (59m 40s):
And the media will pretend that it's been debunked. It's never debunked. Guys. These are psychological operations and the media is behind them. The media is supporting these operations, rather, I think the military is behind these operations, and I think the military, the cult of military has wrapped its way around the world as best that I can see it through the books that I am reading. And my eyes have been open to the fact that these people and these characters are, are not organic. They are not smarter than you. They're not working harder than you. They are just more corrupt than you. That's what I've learned truly. They like, they kind of put out these stats, oh, this is why we're so successful. It's a higher iq, you know, such, you're like killing people. You're taking over their companies. You're hostile, you're stealing tech. You're mass murdering people and stealing their land.

1 (1h 0m 22s):
That's why you're ahead. You're more corrupt, you're more evil. And so, yeah, we need to be radical in our commitment to the truth, because you can see how much the truth impacts them. They're completely coming undone. Particularly speaking about Zionists right there. Zammit writes, Candace a tipping point in the USA. Yeah, for sure. And by the way, regarding Turning Point, I can't make of a worse executive decision that could be made than to ban Tucker Carlson from future events. Like literally, people are going to perceive that as ignoring Charlie's dying wish, dying fight, if you will. The last, like I said, thing that we can read in his text messages.

1 (1h 1m 3s):
So it it's just completely absurd and crazy. But look, it's gonna be tough for Erica. It's gotta be tough for Erica in this moment because she's gonna be feeling that pressure in the same way that Charlie was getting those, getting that pressure from these top donors, these top Jewish donors, it's now being transferred when they're making noise publicly like this. When you see Seth Dylan and Josh Hammer out there, you better bet there is some financial consequence that is happening behind the scenes. The, if you don't do this, then that this is what they do. Financial threats, they love it. Zionists love financial threats. They love to force you outta the market. And then to pretend that their success is organic and it never is. They're not interesting at all. Actually, they, if, if this was a fair world, they would be probably at the bottom of society if they weren't evil.

1 (1h 1m 47s):
Jonathan Warner writes, Hey, Candace, I love you and I am inspired by you to spread the truth no matter what the consequences. Thank you. These evil people are simply abysmal. My assault on Truth book is coming in next week after months of waiting time for the world to wake up, stay safe, safe. That book is who you will, you will know what Zionist movement is. Once you read that book. It will no one, no way to unsee it. Once you see what their strategy is and why they have, they think they had perfected these psychological operations gaslighting us. When we all see Charlie get shot and then trying to eulogize him, that book is potent. So enjoy and learn about the author, learn about what he went through to tell the truth about the fact that Sigmund Freud was factually defending his pedophile friends.

1 (1h 2m 35s):
And they brought that to the shores of America. They brought modern psychology to the shores of America and into Hollywood. And the good news is, we're all waking up to it. People are understanding that we are in a battle, spiritual battle between goodness and evil. And like I said, I always wanna remind you that the frequency of truth carries more power than a lie. And that's why they demand we shut up. That's why they demand cancellation. They demand that Tucker's not given a platform because he's telling the truth and it's resonating with people and he's giving people the courage, more people, the courage to tell the truth, right? They don't want Dave Smith platform at Turning Point. USA. Josh Hammer was angry after he got destroyed by Dave Smith on Turning Point USA stage.

1 (1h 3m 16s):
So he privately started the struggle session session because he knew that when they were on stage, these students that were there were impacted and they wanted to follow Dave Smith. People know truth when they hear it, and they know lies when they see it. And in Josh Hammer's case, the wet hair thing, I, I wouldn't do it. Josh's, I'm saying, I'm not trying to be mean. I just, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do that. Look. Anyways, you guys, thank you so much for all of your support, and tomorrow is a Norm Finkelstein interview. Enjoy that and then we'll see you live on Monday.

10/29/25

Why Isn't The Trump Family Asking Questions About Charlie Kirk? | Candace Ep 254




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1 (31s):
All right you guys, where to begin? Well, the turning point USA Wikipedia entry got a very interesting update The night after Charlie Kirk was murdered, a certain someone was mysteriously added to the entry for the first time ever listed as a co-founder of one of their divisions. That's interesting. I wonder who also, I was a bit taken aback. I was obviously away in Wyoming when President Trump honored Charlie Kirk with his very own holiday as a posthumous birthday present. But I was a little taken aback that people really believe that that would somehow put an end to the conspiracies.

1 (1m 11s):
Supposed to be over now because look Charlie Kirk Day. Okay, we'll see about that. And sticking with the Trump family, Don Trump Jr. Has come out to share his feelings regarding the FBI investigation and man, oh man, you guys, I just am wondering how deep this thing really goes because there is not a single member of the Trump family that could have upset me more with his commentary than John Trump. Jr welcome back to, Let's start with one of my own back of head conspiracies.

1 (1m 56s):
It's kinda a long running thought of mine actually over the years and it relates here to something interesting that I thought of after the show yesterday that I wanted to share with you guys regarding Charlie as a child, Charlie was obviously an extremely gifted child. So much so that he was hyperactive. He was actually always hyperactive. That never went away. He couldn't sit down, he was never idle. He was always working, but he was so gifted that of course doctors immediately wanted to put him on a DHD medicine because well why is he so hyperactive? Something's wrong with him, let's drug him. And thankfully Charlie's parents said, absolutely not. You're not drugging our son. He is actually in fact gifted and they instead opted to send him to a school for the gifted.

1 (2m 41s):
That's my memory. Charlie told me that story multiple times and I thought about that. This has just been in my mind lately, living in my mind my, because I truly believe that he was probably assigned like life handlers from that moment on. Something probably takes place if you go to a little X-Men school and they're seeing how smart you are, you're a part of some program extra. I was in extraordinary learners as a kid, but I think Charlie was in like a special X-Men school. They probably are monitoring those kids. I actually believe that the reason that we have standardized tests is so that the government can track who is performing above the standard, right? Who's performing above the average slave? You better keep an eye on that one. Just my suspicion, my own personal conspiracy theory.

1 (3m 22s):
I think when I am, my kids are old enough to do standardized tests because even when you homeschool you have to do standardized tests. I'm gonna be like, just get like a 70%. We don't want a government tracker sent on us. Anyways, I wanna jump back into the turning point USA story and tell you guys something that's been bothering me about Rob McCoy. Stick on him other than the fact that he lies and he proclaims to be a pastor is the fact that less than 36 hours after Charlie died less than 36 hours exact time at 10:34 PM Eastern on September 11th, the turning point USA Wikipedia received a rather interesting update.

1 (4m 8s):
Pastor Rob McCoy who had previously never been featured on the Wikipedia page, somehow got his own heading. Just amazing. Let's check out that fresh entry now. It reads Rob McCoy and Charlie Kirk founded Turning Point USA Faith, TPUS Faith together along with being a Pentecostal pastor in the Calvary Chapel Association. McCoy is the co-chairman of TPUS Faith aligned with the Christian right McCoy inspired Kirk to amalgamate Christianity and social conservatism. During the COVID-19 pandemic, McCoy was known for speaking out against prohibitions on the holding of in-person church services.

1 (4m 52s):
Now the hardest part of being me is that I came up the turning point USA. So I just know these lies so quickly. Okay? No, Rob McCoy was not the person who inspired Turning Point USA faith. Actually, if anybody could be credited with that, that was, that was like way back in the day. Liberty University actually, those pastors, those conversations, I was there for thou, we should do like a faith division, whatever it is, he didn't inspire it. And what's so interesting about that entry is that when you then click it, this is how you know this is absurd. When you click the actual notations that are there, when it says he's the co-founder, what are you talking about? Since when is he the co-founder and also says that he was the chairman.

1 (5m 32s):
When you click it, that article, which they pretend is a note, hit the 54 Skyler, not 55. Okay? That's from November 24th, 2024. That's the justification for saying he was a founder. Nowhere in that article to say that he's a founder or the chairman nowhere. They just put a fake article, a real article that never said this and they're like, oh, now it's source. It's here forever. 'cause nobody ever does their homework. And we're w Wikipedia, we're Wikipedia. So you can't question this obviously. And then you can see the second citations that are used September of the dates of them, September 10th, September, 2025. So it's brand spanking new. You guys still has tags on it less than 36 hours later.

1 (6m 17s):
Now you might be thinking, trying to justify that as I was, you might be rationally wondering, well, look, there was a lot of interest in Turning Point USA following this assassination. Maybe they, there wasn't any mention of Turning Point Faith at all. And maybe what they did was afterwards Wikipedia editors went in there and wanted to just break apart every part and speak about turning Point USA and dedicate more thorough research to the various projects that Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk were working on. So they included a new tab about Turning Point Faith. If you're wondering that, that's fair. But the answer to that musing is no. Actually, there already was a long standing section on the Wikipedia website regarding Turning Point Faith on Wikipedia.

1 (7m 3s):
In fact, that section is still available if you just scroll down and it kind of conflicts with the new section that was added 36 hours later. It makes it clear that Charlie Kirk founded T-P-U-S-A faith alone. Here it is in 2021, Charlie Kirk founded T-P-U-S-A Faith, an organization that says it is dedicated to recruit pastors and other church leaders to be active in local and national political issues. The organization promotes a culture war agenda and is intended to attract supporters among religious conservatives. Its activities include faith-based voter drives and educating members on T-P-U-S-A core values. Now, you can keep reading here, there's no mention of McCoy.

1 (7m 46s):
So what this means practically is that when Charlie Kirk was alive, that is what the Wikipedia read. And then he died and suddenly somebody in the world said, well, what about Rob McCoy? Let's add Rob McCoy, who is not known worldwide. Okay, this is even before the memorial event. So you could maybe go, oh, well maybe once he hit the stage and said, I'm Charlie's pastor. Somebody went in there and added it. I don't know guys, my question is, who made that update? Who was rather instructed to make that update? Because I can tell you how it works for big companies. I was actually desperately looking for a text from Charlie because I know he told me that they Turning Point USA's organization had found a guy that could help clean up the Wikipedia pages, right?

1 (8m 33s):
There are people that do this full time and they're paid by bigger organizations to clean up their Wikipedia pages. Because I remember, and I still have the messages, when we first had our pages, which were made by Wikipedia editors and they were horrific, they said terrible things about us. It was like Candace is a racist white nationalist, a crazy person who hates BLM, but she hates women. You know, the whole gamut that you're getting right now about me. And we were horrified when we looked at our Wikipedia pages and then some time passed and someone within the organization had found a person who could clean up our Wikipedia pages. Charlie told me, and I cannot remember who that individual was. It'll come to me. It'll actually come to me.

1 (9m 15s):
But I, I'm just interested. Do you guys think that some random person got inspired to include a whole heading of Rob McCoy 36 hours later? What do you guys think? I don't even think they had even yet announced that Erica Kirk was the chairman of the CEO. 36 hours later. Like that seems that early, less than 36 hours, I should say, to be very clear, less than three, six hours later, I don't even think Charlie's body had returned back to Arizona. And yet somebody was dedicated to Rob McCoy lying and claiming this person who typed this, that he was the founder, the co-founder, Charlie's pastor.

1 (9m 56s):
No, he wasn't the founder of TBUS faith, the inspiration behind TBUS Faith. No, he wasn't. He was one of the advisors put on the board of advisory for T-B-U-S-A faith. I know that he gets paid by TPUS Faith upcoming Pastor Summits, where they're gonna teach other Christian Zionist pastors how to use the Bible as a shield for their political ideas. You know, it says right here in the Bible unfollow Tucker Carlson. There's no other way that we can understand Paul's letter to the Corinthians other than to Unfall Tucker Carlson. That's the vibe I'm getting. The direction that Turning Point was going into. And Rob McCoy was definitively going to benefit financially from that.

1 (10m 39s):
But founder since when, anyways. Now let's turn our attention to other allies. President Donald Trump. Of course we have to arrive here because Charlie really loved Donald J. Trump. Okay? He loved him. It is unreal going through my messages to really consider how much he dedicated his entire life to him and I, I mean, sleepless nights, wanting to ensure that he got elected, reelected midterm elections, hitting the ground, wearing a MAGA hat. We were everywhere. I was on fire for Trump too. I really believed in Trump. I really believed that if people could wake up to how quickly the media turned on him, that it could be, you know, this conduit to black Americans understanding that we're being manipulated.

1 (11m 28s):
'cause my focus was all about black America, right? And what I can say is that from the very moment that we learned the news that Charlie Kirk had passed, I knew spiritually that we were never gonna get the full story from officials. Right? Not from officials. I can't explain it. I felt that way. And then when Trump rushed to tweet out that, or social truth, social out, that photo, an AI photo of him and Charlie with the star of David in the background, I just knew, I just knew, I knew the investigation into who murdered Charlie Kirk was officially over, right?

1 (12m 20s):
The officials wanted nothing to do with it because there was nobody more psychotically insistent that people stop asking questions about Charlie's death immediately. I mean early hours, right? More than the people that are dedicated to the Israel lobby, right? These individuals, if you go back, people that are pro-Israel, for whatever reason, were like, do not look any further into this death. In fact, I'll challenge you. Do me a favor, find me one, just one real life pro-Israel individual who is expressing that they don't believe that Charlie Kirk was killed by Tyler Robinson.

1 (13m 3s):
The evidence is overwhelming that Tyler Robinson didn't act alone. That Tyler Robinson didn't fire the shot that Tyler Robinson didn't use. A 30 odd six. Find me just one person with a platform who's pro-Israel and says, I want this investigation into his death to continue. It's a bit weird, right? It's a bit weird. Dogs very silent right now. Very, very silent. And there's like a stake on the ground. They're not moving. It's very weird. They do all of them, however, I will say, want him to be honored, right? Mostly by your money. They want you to give to Turning Point USA. That's the best way, by the way that you can honor him.

1 (13m 45s):
Open up your pocketbooks. They don't have enough money there, right? Clearing like a hundred million a year. They don't have enough. Open up your pockets. Keep his show going. And don't ask questions is obviously the clearest way that we can honor Charlie Kirk. They want him lionized. And they did try to lionize him immediately as the most Judeo Christian goy ever. Right? He, he was basically, why not just put him in a yamaka in some of these AI photos that would make more sense the direction. I mean, so instant. It's like just like trying to establish the legacy, right? And keeping with that. We want this to be honorific, not actually trying to solve what happened here for Charlie's birthday.

1 (14m 25s):
President Trump signed into law or, or, or established rather a holiday, and he decided that October 14th, which is Charlie Kirk's birthday, would be a National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk. Okay? And I'm gonna tell you how I feel about that. Truly Zionist that infiltrated my book club. You did not need to pay the 9 99 to find out how I feel about this. I, I don't know why people think I'm hiding how I feel. It's very weird. Like when did people go? We have to try to listen in to hear what she really thinks. I'll tell you what I really think. I think it's crap. Okay?

1 (15m 5s):
What I said in my book club holds, it's never good when the feds are lining up to give you a holiday. Not good. You know, Martin Luther King vibes, I don't. Martin Luther King Jr. I think maybe the Feds definitely killed Martin Luther King Jr. But we, oh, in school, we get to learn about him. He's got this whole holiday, oh he was such a great, I loved that. I have a dream speech. Oh, the feds. Oh man, you're good. You were so great. It's unfortunate that we had to murder you. I don't like it because the best way to honor Charlie Kirk is very obvious. Figure out who killed him first. Let's celebrate the holiday later. I wanna figure out who killed him first.

1 (15m 46s):
And so I'm struck by this. I'm struck by Trump and the lack of demand, the lack of pushing on the narrative. Trump has really represented himself, at least as me, someone who voted for him twice. He represented himself as an individual who didn't trust the federal establishment. This feels like an easy layup here. You're a friend. He viewed you in many ways, like a father figure, right? Hey fed, what's going on here? And I said, maybe he did because I was in this aggrieved stage and I really didn't poke my head up until weeks later when like the, like I could like stop crying about it every second.

1 (16m 27s):
And I said, maybe I missed it. Maybe Trump did actually say this is crap. Maybe he did call for an investigation and we did a search on truth social to see how many times President Trump tweeted or truth social calling for further investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. And there was only one tweet that we could find to that effect. And this tweet is not what I would describe as him calling for an investigation into Charlie Kirk's murder. Actually here, here it is. This is the only one we could find. Why was the wonderful turning point under investigation by deranged Jack Smith and the corrupt and incompetent Biden administration. They tried to force Charlie and many other people and movements out of business.

1 (17m 9s):
They weaponized the Justice Department against Sleepy Joe Biden's, political opponents, including me. They allowed the daughter of a judge of one of the corrupt trials against me to become the biggest fundraiser for Biden and Kamala making millions of dollars for herself and her family. But with her father, the judge not only refusing to recuse himself, but putting a gag order on me, not allowing any talk about their family corruption and unprecedented conflict of interest. Well, that's not gonna age well. The gag order thing is it Every leading legal analyst and pundit said this trial was wrong and should not have been allowed to go forward, but it did because of a corrupt judge who will hopefully pay a very big price for his illegal action someday.

1 (17m 54s):
Okay, scale of one to 10, how much is that? Do you feel about Charlie Kirk? Like, I don't know. I don't know what to think of that. I dunno what to make of that. Like I said, it's pretty obvious they want us to just look at everything and go case closed. Don't you see we're all united, we're standing up here, we're giving him a holiday, we're signing that. And we've got all these photographers here, turning Points Chief fundraiser lady here, and she's crying. So obviously she loved Charlie Cash. Patel was there, of all the people, unbelievable to me. They're here. Cash Patel's here. So you can see we're all united. You can totally trust the FBI science.

1 (18m 35s):
Now we're ruling out corruption. That's why we don't know what Jeffrey Epstein files are talking about because we've, we look, all we had to do was win against Democrats and corruption would be over. Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? I'm sorry. You know, I've realized something actually, and truly they made in retrospect the absolute best decision not inviting me to speak at Charlie's Memorial. Like kudos to whoever made that call because I would've just been on my best Kanye. I would've jumped on stage and just grabbed the mic from Susie Wees or someone and said, are you kidding me? What? What is going on here? What is happening? Even Trump's speech.

1 (19m 16s):
Remember when he just kind of worked in the story about Charlie interviewing a fourth grader and he was referring to Brelin Holland. And I'm saying Holland by the way, 'cause that was his name when Charlie interviewed him, because Trump wasn't there nothing to do with Trump. When Charlie went on that fourth graders podcast, his name was Breland Holland and I was next to him. It was me and Charlie. What a weird story for Trump to, to Trump to just obscurely pluck out of thin air to say on stage at his memorial. He wasn't there. He, it had nothing to do with him. The kid had some connections and of course was really sweet and adorable and in fourth grade and super polite and energetic and was like, I'd love to interview you.

1 (19m 57s):
I can't remember who the guy was who was his dad. I got him the interview with us and all of a sudden Trump's just saying this story on stage at Charlie's memorial as if he was there and he wasn't. So what's going on regarding Cash Patel showing his face there? I legitimately do not know how these people do it, okay? I would literally die from shame. I would pass away, right? Immediately from shame before I would show up to that event if I was Kash Patel. Like did they breed it out? Is this, is this a new breed of human that I don't know about where you feel nothing? There's just nothing. It's like the Josh Hammer thing. They don't feel any sense of shame at all and they can just go, go, go, go, go and pretend that you're honoring.

1 (20m 41s):
I don't, I don't understand that. I truly don't understand that because I have to be a different species from whatever that is. I would melt, I'd rather melt at the floor than show my face knowing how badly I was dropping the ball. The whole world knows dropping the ball. How do you show up to work Kesh Patel? And the answer is, he shows up to work and he demands that everybody stop looking into it. 'cause he's got it under control. He wants to be, he's got a very small team of people at the FBI that are allowed to touch anything pertaining to the Charlie Kirk case because you know, this is transparency. Finally, the adults are in charge and it's gonna be the most transparent administration ever, except on the Jeffrey Epstein stuff for the Charlie Kirk stuff, who's a friend of the administration.

1 (21m 23s):
That's, we gotta be a little bit opaque on real headline New York Times yesterday pertaining to how upset Cash Patel was when he received an inquiry from Joe Kent Tulsi GA's office. They lead the National Counter-Terrorism, okay Center Joe Kent does. And him inquiring about details into this, apparently alarmed k Patel. 'cause Kash Patel was alarmed. He called a meeting, in fact, right? He wanted to investigate the assassination for pertaining to Joe Kent. They were like, Hey, maybe people overseas were involved in his murder. Maybe they were thinking Bebe's saying too much.

1 (22m 5s):
Can we look, can we just look at these files because it's our, it's our job overseas terrorism. And K Patel was so alarmed by this, so alarmed that they would look into these files that he held a meeting apparently. Oh, what, what? What are you? This is not appropriate. Not appropriate for you to be looking into this, okay? We don't want you knowing whether or not there was a foreign power or another entity that was involved in this. And this is the reason that Cash Patel decided to have a meeting with Susie Wiles and Joe Kent and Tulsi Gabbard and Trump officials. I think it said JD Vance was in this meeting as well. And nothing was accomplished because why wouldn't you if you're the most transparent administration ever, share, get the help.

1 (22m 45s):
Hey, we're supposed to be partners in this, don't we all wanna find out who killed Charlie Kirk? And the answer is no. We don't all want to find out who killed Charlie Kirk. I think that's apparent, right? It's pretty obvious that we do not all want to find out who murdered Charlie Kirk because they're not acting right. Nobody is acting right right now. And it's stunning. We are making so many discoveries in this case. And I have to tell you guys, we're getting close, we're getting low, very close, I think, to what actually happened on that day. And I'm getting the suspicion that there were some foreign entities involved. So Joe Kent, Tulsi Gabbard, you guys, by any chance, see this episode, keep going, right?

1 (23m 30s):
We're just going very slowly here, set the bait, we're gonna see who lies about what. And when we get back from this break, I'm going to tell you another stunning turning point lie that came out, and you're gonna start feeling some type of way about the people who are all apparently mourning him. And the best way to mourn, of course, is to lie, be right back after a quick break.

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1 (27m 18s):
Alright, so Mikey McCoy is missing from the Charlie Kirk Show. He was, seemed very happy to jump in that seat thereafter, I think we were all expecting after this video went viral that we would hear from him regarding his actions there. As soon as Charlie got shots, we were told by Andrew Covet, who is now missing from today's episode of the Charlie Kirk show that it was because Charlie was very explicit. Charlie was very explicit. Charlie said, if I ever get shot at an event the left side of my neck, the first thing I want you to do is not help me. Okay? And how could we, how could we not do anything but trust the science here? We just gotta trust science. We know we'll never know, okay?

1 (27m 58s):
'cause I guess they're not gonna show us call logs. They're not gonna do anything. Just easily put away any of these quote unquote conspiracies that are unhealthy. I wanted to show you this comment. It was actually under his show yesterday, well actually might have been the day before that re regarding Charlie's unique instructions to his friends, right? This is a comment. Charlie's instructions are actually insane. Number one, leave me with no help or first aid. That is true. He was not administered to any first aid. I have a closeup videos of that. Very strange to me because that's what they're supposed to be experts in. No gauze taken out, nothing. Not even securing the wound as they carried him the hospital. And I do not accept by the way that it was because things were crazy.

1 (28m 38s):
He literally pays you millions of dollars of years to know what to do. Security team, when things are crazy. Are you still employed? Did you fail at your one job? I don't know. I don't know. We're gonna find out. Anyways, his second instruction, this lady writes, film your reaction and self emo. Charlie must have wanted it. It's what he would've wanted. I think he wants, he would've wanted it. I dunno. Three, take all the SD cards just in case. Secure the footage and never reveal it to anyone but the feds who have always been so trustworthy. And for quickly cover the scene in case anybody wants to get justice for me. Yeah, that really is, those are some instructions.

1 (29m 22s):
Did Charlie Kirk have any real friends? What do you guys think? Because the more that time goes by, the more upset I am and everyone who's lying about every little thing. And I wouldn't mean literally little things, right? Not even the big things, but the little things. That's why the Catholic Point made me so upset when I very gently said, oh, we, we thought he was close to converting. He was going to the mass and then suddenly operation mocking pastor or mocking evangelical influencer went out. And they all were like, that's not true. That's not true. And I'm like, what do you mean it's not true? Don't be absurd. Don't be absurd. Why lie? I reflect on that moment, and I think it was right after memorial service a couple of days after the memorial service where Alex Clark released that interview with her and Andrew Covet and they struggl sessioned through that.

1 (30m 12s):
They were like, no, no, they were both committed evangelicals and they and Erica and they, he, yeah, he liked the smells, smells and the bells. He loved the architecture, but there was no more substance for him. I really struggled with that and I struggled with it even more. Now that I know that Charlie Kirk has been a lot of questions about what about his bural, how come we haven't seen anything about his burel? We saw so much and then we saw nothing. And the reason that's like a big hush hush secret is because Charlie had a Catholic funeral mass and he is buried in a Catholic symmetry. Yeah, he, it was, but really it was about the architecture.

1 (30m 55s):
I want you to understand why the little lies. I think we can only speculate that it's because they're worried about the money, right? They're, they, they, they do not wanna upset the very same people who were pressuring Charlie Kirk. And I love when they say, oh, I think Andrew said in that interview, they're only a small portion of our donors relative to the rest of our donors. Okay, but are they cutting the bigger checks? Like Bob Showman took $2 million away. That's gotta mean something. If you brought in 70 million last year and he took in, took away 2 million, just like that, are they cutting the bigger checks?

1 (31m 35s):
Because then it's relevant. And I think the answer to that is yes. I think they insisted and are pressuring them as we are hearing to maintain the idea that Charlie died pro Israel. But to do that, to have the stomach to do that, to know that you knew where he was buried and attended that mass and you had the stomach to sit down and to gaslight me. That's what you did. You were, you were gaslighting me, actually me. Right? Didn't say my name, but you referring to me. Right? Oh no, he was, he was just the most committee evangelical. What's wrong with everybody? Why does nobody have just the, I don't know, the spirit moving within them.

1 (32m 18s):
Just like, I don't know. I would just be sickened sickened with myself. I can't lie like that. I can't lie anywhere close to that. I can't even fib. And you're able to just sit up there like a soldier and just delude everybody, delude the masses and, and sometimes do it through tears to be extra convincing. That's, that's crazy to me. It's wild to me. Speaking on the note of who his friends are. I will tell you there was no one, like I said at the top of the show, that could have upset me more than Don Jr. Okay. Don Jr was one of Charlie's friends. Like brother, literally a brother Don Jr by the way, I would say was one of the people who very much helped to build Turning Point USA.

1 (33m 0s):
He was there. Okay. He did a ton of college campus events with me and Charlie and we were always so grateful. My, I remember when Don Jr started following me, I have the text messages with Charlie. I was like, oh, my Don Jr is following me. This is amazing. He would retweet me. The beginning of the Canna story includes Don Trump Jr. Being probably, without question, actually the most committed Trump family member to Turning Point USA's early story. Okay. And like I said, I know how Charlie Fed felt about Don Trump Jr. So when Meg Kelly asked him what he thought about the investigation into Charlie's assassination, I was expecting him to say, I think it's crap.

1 (33m 48s):
That is not what he said. In fact, he did his best not to answer the question as you'll see. And then Megan Kelly holds him to it. And then you'll hear what he says. Take a listen.

3 (33m 56s):
How do you feel about the investigation into Charlie's death? Do can we have faith in it? Do you feel like it's being well handled

4 (34m 3s):
So far? Listen, so far so good. I, I think, you know, I've had this conversation with a lot of the guys that have been, you know, very involved from the beginning and you know, others that are big part of that movement that are, you know, are gonna take, you know, more of a role. You know, you know, guys like jd, like hey, they, he believes we have to keep this going. People, you know, myself, hey, I gotta do, I did a lot of 'em, but I gotta do even more. Yep. We, we gotta keep this going. There's not, there's never gonna be a replacement for Charlie Kirk. You can't plug that in. But if we can find 10 people that can do 10% of what he did and they go all in Yep. And do that, we can keep that alive. And honestly we all owe that to him. Just

3 (34m 39s):
A round back. Do you, do you have confidence in the investigation? Should we have confidence in this FBI in investigating?

4 (34m 45s):
I I do. You know, and I, I I I mean, I don't know. I don't, I don't, I don't like it when the people have the private con, you know, but I've spoken to ev everyone you know around and you know, Erica and like, like I, I do have confidence in Yeah. You know, when I start seeing some of the other stuff, it's like, man. And, and by the way, just so we're clear, as you all probably know if you're here, you probably follow me a little bit. Like I'm about as conspiratorial as it gets within the realm of sanity for good cause, right? I think I was the guy that first said like, the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is usually about six months. You know, I, I was the guy canceled for pushing all of the obvious things that were conspiracy theories that, you know, Wuhan or whatever it may be, you know, lab virus leak, you know, the problem is that there, there is a cottage industry of just cliques and people that are more than happy to, you know, to profiteer, you know, off of that again, that I'm not saying that a lot of this stuff isn't real and isn't true and I've been pushing all of that, but some of the stuff does get a little bit off the rails and I think, you know, you're, you're really, it's been used even by the other side as a way to distract from the bigger picture of what happened to him.

4 (35m 53s):
Yes. Of what the other side has proven that they are actually willing to do.

1 (36m 1s):
Man. Oh man. So much I wanna say to that clip, okay, the first thing that I wanna say is that Don Trump Jr. Is not a bad guy, not a bad guy. Don Trump Jr. Is probably maybe a kin in some ways to Mikey McCoy. I, I look at Mikey McCoy, I don't know Mikey McCoy at all. And I don't think he's an evil person. I think he's in the shadow of his father, right? I think he's in the shadow of his father. I think Don Jr has been probably in the shadow of his father his entire life. Because what he's saying when he begins to credentialize himself and said, oh, I was up the Wuhan said this about COVID, blah blah. That's all true. That's the real Don Trump Jr. He was actually one of the people that was the most vocal about the Jeffrey Epstein files until dad said, are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?

1 (36m 48s):
Right? And that's what I mean when I say someone who is in the shadow of his father. And it's a tough situation to be in. So I do wanna be charitable in terms of thinking of that particular dynamic when dad is saying, this needs to be done. And you have to carry on knowing that you had a real relationship with Charlie. 'cause you did have a real relationship with Charlie. But Don from me to you, it's better to say nothing. Okay? It's better to say, I'm just not gonna answer that question. The best way you could honor Charlie Kirk, if you can't fight for him for some reason, is to simply say nothing.

1 (37m 33s):
Because I looked at this clip and it bothered me for a lot of recent Don, because I know who you are. I know who you are. You're a hunter. You love to hunt Don, right? Every picture of you, you are in the wilderness your whole life. You love to be in the wild. In fact, you taught me a lot about the wild and a lot about hunting. And my favorite fishing experience is actually with you, right? Fighting back the sea lions or the seals in British Columbia, you know, nature. And I'm not gonna ask you to go about against the nature of honoring your father, but I am going to ask you not to lie. And as a hunter, you are not lying. And this is truly what you believe.

1 (38m 13s):
You trust the investigation. I'm gonna need you to make a video saying that you believe that Charlie was shot by a 30 odd six in the neck. And that somehow through the miracle of God, Charlie's neck stopped a 36, not only stopped a 36, but was pretty much in good shape, not even destroyed, his neck was not even destroyed by a 30 odd six. That kind of a miracle Don, you know, hunting, you know guns. And so I'm asking you if this is truly what you believe to clarify that matter, make a video, sit down with me, look me in the eye and say, Candace, I really do think that Charlie, our friend, because you are his friend, you, his brother stopped a 30 odd six with his neck, which stayed intact.

1 (39m 9s):
You won't say that Don. You won't say that because it's untrue. And I think that spiritually it would mess with you and the hunters that are listening. No, that you don't believe that you know too much. Okay? So again, I'm gonna ask you if you cannot say anything, I understand the ties that bind. I understand Jared and Ivanka and their investments in Israel and the pressure that's coming from his Zionists to simply be quiet as his other brothers and sisters and people in the movement. People who don't even know Charlie, get to the bottom of this because everything we're being sold is absolute bs. That's my request to you, Don. Anyways, moving on from that, I do, on the topic of Israel, wanna let you know that I was very excited to sit down and have a conversation which we will be releasing on Friday with Norman Finkelstein.

1 (40m 1s):
Norman Finkelstein was probably the single greatest contributor to me being sort of just smacked in the gut about Gaza, learning about Gaza. I think most people didn't know genuinely like me, just did not know anything about the history of Gaza, knew nothing about it because it has been such a censor to topic in America. And we were all told that, you know, we, it was our job after all of the Holocaust movies and the Holocaust indoctrination that took place in the school system to be triggered at the idea that anybody could have a thought against the modern shade of Israel, which is only there because 6 million Jews perished in the Holocaust.

1 (40m 43s):
We all grew up with that, right? We grew up being indoctrinated not to ask a single question when it comes to Israel. That's the reality. And Norm Finkelstein, whose parents survived, one of his parents survived Auschwitz, was the reason I had him on my show right after October 7th, sometime, shortly thereafter when I was at the Daily Wire. And what he told me horrified me and it pushed me to become more educated on the topic. And I was so grateful that I was able to sit down with him again this time on my totally owned own show. And I'm just gonna show you a little trailer for that. Take a listen.

5 (41m 21s):
The Economist magazine, it describes Gaza as quote, a human rubbish sheep. The leading un official on Gaza describes it as quote, a toxic dump for the people of Israel. Gazen are vermin, they're garbage, they're human refuse.

1 (41m 45s):
You guys were the ones that insisted, totally

5 (41m 48s):
Agree,

1 (41m 49s):
Insisted that we all have a perspective on October 7th. Then when we looked and we pierced that veil, we went, oh my goodness, how was I ever peria? And now you want us to shut up?

5 (42m 1s):
There is a problem here. A billion billionaire class of Jewish supremacists are now flagrantly using money as a black male weapon to silence, not just criticism of Jews, but silence criticism of an ongoing genocide.

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1 (47m 20s):
All right, so yesterday in the comments, we had a few people who were asking about the New Relic behind me, and I can tell you quickly how I got it. Obviously it is new. When we, we were in Wyoming, we traveled with priests. It's something that my husband and I began doing last year, the year before last year. And it has enriched our experience, experience traveling as a family and kind of checking in with yourself and thinking through things theologically and, and also feeling a sense of protection to be able to pray. I know that I have received so many emails from people and comments from people who felt compelled except for some reason that you didn't even know. People would say, I haven't gone to church in 45 years, and after I watched Charlie be assassinated, I knew that I needed to go to church.

1 (48m 2s):
Don't ignore that. Okay? You are not like a paper bag floating in the wind. Like Katy Perry's song said, you do have a spirit and what you are pulling, everyone feels that we are in some sort of a spiritual battle. Now, you're starting to wake up. I feel a lot of people right now are starting to wake up and realize something is wrong. I mean, people are asking, do we live in a matrix? Do we live in a military industrial complex? You recognize something is very wrong. Do not ignore your gut on that, okay? You do not descend from homo sapien australopithecus. That is not the story of man. That's not the story of man. That's not where you were from. Like I said, you have a spirit and there is more. There is more. Of course, there is more course. There is life after death, okay?

1 (48m 44s):
And the idea that they want you to believe is, no, no, no. This is it. You're here. You're here for about 80 years, so you just better be selfish and allow us to enslave you Here where we have dominion, I'm talking about these demons that we are fighting where we have dominion, by getting you to compromise your values, to compromise who you are, to sell your soul in some circumstances, right? That's not an expression. People, we have observed this, have literally sold their souls. They don't understand that. They won't understand that until they die. They'll realize what that actually means. They'll understand that hell is foreign eternity. Okay? And how, how we got here, okay?

1 (49m 25s):
That the story of St. Michael leading the angels in heaven, the great battle in heaven knocking Satan and the angels that were behind him down to the earth, that is all very real. And St. Michael is a prayer of protection that I feel is very powerful. It's a very powerful prayer that we say every Sunday at mass. And I think that, you know, just the way it starts, Saint Michael, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and the snares of the devil. May God rebuke him. We humbly pray and do thou o prince of heavenly hosts by the power of God, cast into hell, Satan and all the evil spirits proud about the world, seeking the ruins of soul.

1 (50m 13s):
Amen. It's a powerful prayer. And we're there, we need protection, okay? But I do think that once again, goodness, light is going to win. I feel that. And a lot of you feel that. And I'm loving your emails telling me about your dreams. People in Turning Point had dreams. There was one young woman who emailed me and said, Candace, like I just have to tell you the week leading up to this, I had a very vivid dream about so-and-so at the company and six snakes that were around him. And I didn't know that Charlie was gonna be assassinated. And this person recounted their dream in detail. And I, there was many people who dreamed, for whatever reason, the number six was in their dreams in terms of the weapon, whatever it was, it was six six that was appearing.

1 (50m 58s):
And so I'm kind of going by a vibe that there may be six people who betrayed him by the end of this, because there was one too many dreams that affect from people around the world. Trust your gut. Don't ignore your dreams, don't ignore your intuition. Anyway, some more comments that we have here, max Hardy writes, Hey, Candace, I'm 16 and homeschooled. I watch every episode. We are praying for your protection. I, I just got blackout the book, finishing the college scam. And then I will definitely have to get Josh Hammer's book because Charlie supported it and just wanted everybody to read it. No, of course. Duh. Like, obviously, are you kidding me? Like, asap that was, it was, it was basically his last words, right? And then, you know, he, that's what he said. Josh Hammer sell your book no matter what, man.

1 (51m 39s):
Also, on his list of instructions, Maria Garcia writes Candace, what does it mean to be Charlie's David? I, I think it probably means that we gotta slay some Goliaths. God may God bless you. Who knows? I, I mean, I never, and we never could have imagined the weight of what his dreams were. But I think what I take from it and what I understood and why it brought me to tears when I realized that this this moment happened is he knew his life was going to be short. And he knew that for whatever reason, I was going to be the only one that defended him publicly. That would, that would go to war with everyone. And I mean that with everyone. I, I just don't care.

1 (52m 19s):
You don't get to do this. You don't get to force me to watch someone that I came up with, catch a bullet in his throat and then tell me to shut up. Okay? There's gotta be rules here. You don't get to do this, and you're losing. You feel that, right? You feel the energy is not behind you. There's a reason for that. There isn't any energy behind you. The energy is not gonna follow darkness. It's just, it's just not. Tdo. S writes, I wore my Candace CIA sweater in public today. A woman came up to me and called me brave and said, good for you. I love it. In that moment, I was so proud to be on the side of truth. Keep going and don't stop. You are so supported. I know, I know that I am not supported by the people in suits. I know I'm not supported by, you know, Susie Wiles White House.

1 (53m 1s):
I know that I am not supported by the donors, the big donors, the Jewish donors at Turning Point USA, who are pressuring Charlie. But I know that none of that matters. None of that actually matters. And guess what? I didn't sell my soul didn't sell my soul. And all I'm trying to do is to get into heaven and hope that I see my friend again. Christine Jones writes, T-P-U-S-A died with Charlie. I mean, I've seen a lot of your comments about like the show is not the same and it's because nothing can survive when it is being choked by lies. And that's ultimately what I hope for these people. Going back to my point that I actually don't believe in the death penalty.

1 (53m 41s):
'cause it's too easy for the people who didn't kill Charlie, but perhaps betrayed him before or after. 'cause I feel like accepting this bogus narrative is an act of betrayal. I want these people to go through the rest of their lives, long lives. I want them to have long lives actually. And in every room they walk in. It's suffocating, you know, suffocated by people's looks, people's thoughts. They can feel the energy of people knowing you. Two, we know, I want them to feel that energy. Doesn't matter who you are, as a matter what promotion you get, what title you have, what chief you are, the people around you in every room you walk into know, right?

1 (54m 32s):
You dunno. No, but they know and that should mean everything. Melanie Smiles writes, Candace, this is bigger than what the world thinks. Charlie knew you understood the assignment. Charlie's David, you are chosen for such a time as this. God will protect you. Nothing will harm you. Bayes writes, the fact that they tried to pass that off as a wound from a 30 odd six just tells us how soup they think that we really are. They overestimated those max, those Maxwell published textbooks that they tried to indoctrinate us with. I'm glad people are waking up. Yeah. If we don't know what he's referencing, Ghislaine Maxwell's father did indeed begin alongside, I think it was McMillan, don't quote me. It was like Maxwell McMillan publishing our textbooks coming from the Jeffrey Epstein Empires kind of amazing.

1 (55m 15s):
We discussed this in our Epstein series. If you'd like to go back and watch that, we've saved that on YouTube as one of the, the, the series. And it's a good one to go through. You just start to understand how this all works. Julie Wrights, Tucker Carlson interviewed the original creator of Wikipedia. It's totally corrupts now according to him. And he got pushed out. Now he got it. It was always corrupt. I mean, we showed you that video of the, at the time he was not the prime minister of Israel, but he became the prime minister of Israel and he showed how they were training people to edit articles in Wikipedia so that it favored Zionists and the Zionist cause. And it was just like, it's, it's an incredible clip. You gotta, you gotta find it. It. We've showed it a few times, but it's there.

1 (55m 57s):
It's so Israel, it's incredible. Timothy writes The effort to discredit you Candace, for noticing so much is revealing. Any logical person without an agenda thinks and says the same things that you do. It just makes too much sense. And they are downright evil. Yeah, and the psychology of it is just painstaking, right? It's like if you care, you like porn. If you care, you just want cliques. If you care like trying to make us dirty, it's just nonsense. It's like I said, we have to steal ourselves against their psychology. These are like military psychological operations. It's why they need bots on the internet, which they're doing as we learned.

1 (56m 38s):
They're buying so many bots on the internet. It's a stake that Israel is taking. It's why they want TikTok because they want you to feel that pressure that Charlie felt like everyone thinks this but you. So you feel isolated. The goal of that is isolation. It's psych, it's a psychological component. You are isolated in your opinion. So stop saying that opinion. You know, do what the rest of everybody does. Everybody here loves Israel. It's just you that doesn't love it. So something's wrong with you. It's exact same thing here. No. Oh, lemme tell you something right now. We are the majority. It is so obvious to me. Melanie writes, in conclusion, Candace, this is bigger. Oh actually you already wrote that this is bigger than what the world thinks and I absolutely believe that you guys, if you'd like to support our continued work, I tell you, you're gonna love this one.

1 (57m 19s):
I am very proud of this. Tag me if you've got this book, it makes me very excited. You can go to make him a sandwich.com to buy your copy of the book. I think I should probably do some signed ones too. I'll do that before Christmas. Savannah, if you wanna make a note for that, make him a sandwich.com to read this book on feminism, which I think is a very important compellant of component of this and learning the origins of the feminist movement, which of course had nothing to do with wanting to support women. Actually it was a government initiative sponsored by the children of Bolsheviks, obviously. And beyond that, you can head to canones.com by yourself. Some gear, some CIA gear gear. We don't, no, no. But we do know and we have restocked our stand as cups to that effect.

1 (58m 4s):
So thank you guys so much for all the support. I am remarkably clear minded on this. I'm actually very positive on this. My dreams have been positive and I know that we are moving, we are inching ever closer to learning the truth about what happened. And it is going to, when, when the world learns the truth, it is going to have a drastic effect upon humanity. So Charlie did not die in vain. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

10/28/25

Charlie Ripped A Hole In Reality | Candace Ep 253




0 (1s):
All right you guys. So here's what's going on today. Turning Point USA has issued a statement. A couple of statements actually. For one, they say the reason that Mikey McCoy walked away so swiftly after Charlie got shot is because Charlie himself told Mikey to do that. Charlie somehow drilled into Mikey McCoy's mind exactly what he should do in that circumstance. Are you buying that? Any buyers of that I'd like to know, because if there are, I'd like to inform, you didn't want to say it this way, but I am in fact a Nigerian princess. I'm stranded currently on an island. I'm gonna need you to send your credit card details right now so I can return home.

0 (43s):
And if you do, I will transfer you $1 million when I get back to my kingdom. Frank Turk is also being added into the mix. He is telling me, plus other conspiracy theorists to shut up unless we have the facts. Okay, Frank Challenge accepted. Let's learn some more facts today. Lastly, in case you missed it, while I was away, they infiltrated our book club. Our book club has gone viral. My one safe place, I only had one safe space and it was my book club and a Zionists are now there and they say, you guessed it. I am going crazy. Welcome back to Candace.

0 (1m 36s):
Today is actually a really important episode. I want you to pay attention, very close attention to what I'm about to share with you. A lot of this is gut instinct. That's what we do here, and I think it will change the way you think about the world. I'm gonna start by building upon what we discussed yesterday. I had mentioned to you all honestly that something was happening in April of 2018. A lot of things actually were happening in April of 2018, but of course hindsight is 2020, and I'm gonna share some things with you. I don't know what everything means, but I know that it means something. Back when I did my initial tribute video to Charlie, some people took issues theologically when I said that, the day that Kanye West tweeted.

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I love the way Candace Owens thinks. Charlie and I freaked out because we were convinced that we had somehow manifested that I'm aware. I received tons of emails. This goes against Christian doctrine. This was 2018. I was not a Catholic. And I think it's important to discuss that and why we thought we manifested that because it is extremely relevant to what took place thereafter. I have to explain that moment to you. As I showed you yesterday, Charlie was having a lot of vivid dreams. Dreams that he said he had throughout his entire life, that he was going to die in a really tragic, quick way, but especially in April, he was having vivid dreams that something big was about to happen.

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This is in the weeks leading up to the tweet, okay? Full stop. Charlie knew and I felt that we were on the brink of something big, okay? You have to remember, we were young. I'm a lot older than Charlie. I wish Charlie 24 at the time, maybe even, maybe even 23 years old at the time, and we were doing the Fox News Gambit every show on Fox News, but I was really just focused on BLM. Black Lives Matter. I felt they were lying to Black Americans and it was going to harm us. Neither one of us was very well known at this time. We had just kind of gotten together the November before, and it is just a fact that we were listening to Kanye West Music every day. I mean literally every day, especially the song Power, okay?

0 (3m 46s):
I was telling Charlie explicitly, we have to get to Kanye West. I can tell by his music. This is what I'm saying to Charlie. I know these lyrics inside and out. This person does not wanna be a part of the system. If we can get to Kanye, I think he'll join my Blet movement. I've gotta wake up black Americans to this scam that they're using our race to control our emotions, which now to me seems so molecular 'cause I see how much bigger of the issue is. But I just knew that Kanye West was not a part of the simulation, so to speak, and that the song Power, as Kanye said, is a battle cry to beat yourself because of the lyrics. And I have this old text that I'm gonna show you from Charlie.

0 (4m 27s):
This is April 13th, 2018. This is what I said to him, just so you can kind of get the vibe of what was going on. I said, yo Kanye West writing a philosophy, philosophy book called Break the Simulation. We need him Charlie, he is Blet af. And Charlie wrote back, I love Kanye. He's my sole brother. I will find a way to him. I promise we have to. It's crazy to look at that and realize that he's about to tweet us, about to tweet me. So there was this incredible buildup and we felt this palpable energy, a shifting almost, that we kept discussing. In all the messages we're like something, something's happening in April, something's happening. And then on April 16th, Mike Cernovich, you might be familiar with him, he does this series of tweets having not spoken to me or Charlie about how we were feeling, saying that he was speaking to a lot of his friends who could feel that there was some sort of an energy shift, energy shift happening.

0 (5m 19s):
So you imagine we're like, what ha, there is something definitely happening here. How could Mike Cernovich randomly be tweeting this series of tweets? It shocked me. So I sent those tweets to Charlie. I'm gonna show you that. Now. These are from Mike Cernovich. He has since deleted these tweets, but you can ask him. He wrote a change in energy. This is Mike Cernovich. A change in energy, which stuns high consciousness people does not mean bad. It simply means that it's cosmic. A paradigm is shifting, something is happening and that people get angry at me. Shows the shift. Why care? The energy manifests itself in different ways. He goes on to say, several high consciousness people I've spoken to independently told me about feeling a shift in energy.

0 (6m 2s):
Something is going on. It happened two to three weeks ago. I'm not talking politics or elections. It's much bigger energy shift. I saw this night, obviously screenshot I sent, I sent to the tweets to, I'm not screenshot, I just sent the tweets to Charlie and I said, Charlie, what the f? I had a bad potty mouth in 2018 going through these tweets, I realized that I, I don't swear nearly as much or at all anymore. And then Charlie said, yep, we felt it too. Remember I told you the dreams got darker. Again, I'm painting a picture here of what was going on. It we're gonna, you know, get deeper here on what transpired on the eve before Kanye West tweeted us again.

0 (6m 44s):
We are still in April. This is April 20th. The evening before Kanye West tweets me, Charlie messages me and he says, I'm on a run and I'm blasting Kanye West and we're on the brink of something big. And like, this is our time. I'm gonna show you that tweet night before I'm listening to Kanye and just running my streets. Are you ready for the war that's coming. We're gonna fight. We're gonna win. They will lose. And I said, so exciting. It's our time. He said Yes. And then the next morning, as you can see, I woke up to news of the tweets and I said, please pick up. 'cause I was shaking. And then Charlie wrote back and said, I am freaking the F out.

0 (7m 25s):
When I said to you guys, you had to be there, we were certain we had manifested. It was, it was kind of freaky. That's the right word. We were freaking out going, how is this real? How did we know what is happening right now in the world? And yeah, Kanye sent this now infamous tweet, I love the way Canna Owens thinks, I want you to know this. Everything for Charlie and I changed in the blink of an eye in that moment. And retrospectively it would never be the same again. It was indeed a paradigm shift. I mentioned to you guys yesterday that I remember that we both watched Scott Adams. I did not know who he was at this time. Again, I was very green and I'm not an overtly political person, so I didn't know who Scott Adams was.

0 (8m 10s):
But I remember vividly watching him draw on a board and explain to his very many followers that something much bigger had taken place and that people needed to pay attention to this tweet for almost cosmic reasons. Let's take a listen to what Scott Adams said on that day.

2 (8m 30s):
What did he tweet? He tweeted, I like the way Candace Owens thinks seven words and he ripped a hole in reality with seven words because Kanye is supposed to be over here and Candace is supposed to be over here and they're not ever supposed to say the other one said something, right? Right. That's not supposed to happen, but Kanye did it anyway. Kanye knows history doesn't repeat.

2 (9m 11s):
He's not a prisoner of the mind. He knows that the problem is not the solution. Whatever you wanna say about Kanye's politics, and I don't even know what, what his preferred politics would be. I'm not even sure what party he would run for it if he ran for president at this point. Whatever else you wanna say about him. And I don't know enough about his actual, you know, management skills or, or political ability, but he did something that you, you could rarely see. He actually just altered reality. He just made the entire conservative Twitter twittersphere just go something like this.

2 (9m 54s):
It is like, it is like your head just went, what did I just see? Did I really see this? Now forget about, you know, which, which of these views you like the best? That's not even the story. Forget about whether you think Candace has everything right or everything wrong. That's not the story. The story is that, that these two people that shouldn't be in the same conversation in seven words, Kanye just changed that. And he just freed a lot of people from a mental prison. Kanye in seven words, unlocked a mental prison and is bringing you to the golden age

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0 (11m 18s):
I look back on that and I find that clip to be really fascinating. And here's what I would tell you that happened thereafter in short order. 'cause it was definitely something I believe, and I'm saying this retrospectively, that from that moment onward, Charlie and I were assigned handlers, okay? This is an expression that Kanye used to say, I have a handler. I thought that he was just saying that I thought that he was referring to just Hollywood. I now very much believe that I have had handlers since 2018 and that things were done intentionally to pull me and Charlie apart. Now I'm gonna tell you how I remember it in no particular order, okay? I tweeted back at Kanye and I said, please take a meeting with us.

0 (11m 60s):
And before I could hear directly from Kanye's people I heard from David Horowitz of the of Freedom Center. He's the one that first invited me when I was going viral on YouTube to speak at his conference. You should also know that he is the father to Andreesen Horowitz, the one that BB Netanyahu is insisting should or the stepfather to. He wants Andreesen Horowitz to be a part of this group that buys TikTok because, and this is relevant. They think it's important for warfare, psychological warfare in the future. It's relevant. He was very nice in his message to me, said, oh, my son knows Kanye and I would like to facilitate that meeting.

0 (12m 40s):
Suddenly they get Eric Weinstein involved and he reaches out when he pretends that he wants to be a friend to me, he's a bad person. I can tell you that right away. And I learned that very quickly. But at the time, Charlie and I a, we were pro-Israel, that's, I think, kind of relevant. And we were just so amazed by the tweet that we thought all of these people, like this was just our moment as in they really did just wanna help. Another player in this was Rick Rubin. Yeah, the big music industry. Rick Rubin also got into the mix and wanted to facilitate certain meetings. I took it again as a sign of help on the turning point. USA side, Tyler Boyer, who I could do a whole episode on. It's actually, he's, he's more so relevant that I, I can't fit him into just one episode.

0 (13m 23s):
He was with the only person that was with Charlie before he introduced him to every, every person that Charlie knows, he starts hiring a bunch of people telling Charlie that we need to hire bigger and more professional money raisers PR people like Andrew Colette, you name it. And it feels like at every moment there were forces that were trying to tell us this is not allowed to happen. Kanye's handlers are telling him, Kanye's got a team of people telling him he's not allowed to be involved in politics and he's getting angrier and he's getting angrier about that. This is in the time of Kim Kardashian and Kanye, she wanted nothing to do with it. Okay? And I've been to their house and political friends are telling Charlie, and I don't get involved with Kanye 'cause he's crazy.

0 (14m 10s):
You guys are on a a trajectory. Don't speak to Kanye. It's, it's gonna backfire in your face. And I'm like, no, we dreamed this. We want him to be a part of plexi. Like this is exactly what we wanted. At the exact same time I felt, and you have heard this story very many times, Charlie has told it, I have told it out of nowhere. I got this spiritual pull that I needed to go to the uk. Charlie and I had no business in the UK at all. There's no reason for us to go to the uk. There's nothing happening in the uk. I have the messages, I'm like, Charlie, we should go to the uk. I don't know why. Just, I just, I'm getting the vibe. We need to go to the uk, we need to go to the uk, we need to go to the un to the uk, like we gotta go London. And we did in the future.

0 (14m 50s):
But first dealing with this sort of pressure cooker that kept happening between Kanye, me, Charlie, it was in October after Kanye had helped me to start designing the logo for Blet. That Kanye's pressure cooker got too hot. And basically they told him that he would lose everything, his marriage, this, that if he didn't abstain from politics after he notoriously went to the White House in the MAGA hat and he needed to distance from us. And of course Blet. And he cracked. I mean, you guys remember this headline, I'm taking you back 2018. Kanye West isn't distances himself from Blet and Trump. And he says, I've been used to spread messages.

0 (15m 32s):
Kanye never wrote this statement, one of his handlers did. But he said, my eyes are now wide open and I now realize that I've been used to spread messages that I don't believe in. I am distancing myself from politics and completely focusing on being creative. Now that was not the most honest interpretation of things. And I reflect on it and I'm so grateful that I called Mike Cernovich and I said like, why is Kanye doing this? Why is he saying this? I have pictures of him standing over the guy directing him on what he thought was cool with the logo. Like, should I drop them? And Cernovich gave me really sound advice and said, don't you have no idea what he's going through? And I'm grateful to Cernovich for that because I now know what Kanye was going through and what that pressure is like.

0 (16m 15s):
And when they come for your family and come for everything and it's like, all you have to do is disavow this or disavow that and everything will go back to normal. So yeah, Kanye, I totally understand it. It makes perfect sense to me why you had to say that. Anyways, I, I think I was saved and I look back and I think I was saved by this weird poll that I had to go to the uk. It was now I realize an unexpected anomaly. My husband, how I met him, this unplanned trip on nobody's calendar, nobody was setting it up. I just like Charlie, get a meeting with whoever make anything happen. I need to be in the uk. I just think that like something good will happen if we go to the uk and it's kind of beautiful that the person that Charlie reached out to and said, can you put together just any place for Candace Knight to speak at?

0 (17m 3s):
Was John in Arena Mappin, the, the lone donors to wrote that beautiful letter that has impacted the world. Like true friends of Charlie who stood up and said that what turning point USA is doing is wrong. So yeah, we had an event and obviously I firstly eyes on my husband and I have told you guys the truth. I looked at him and everyone's like, why'd you get engaged after 18 days? I have never. It's inexplicable. I looked at him and I felt like I had already known him and it felt exactly like seeing a sigh of relief. Like it felt like a sigh of relief. I was like, this is, I need to go with him two months later.

0 (17m 43s):
And with that event in London, far behind us. So that was in December that I met my husband that I, I convinced Charlie took his credit card and booked the flights. John Marina made the event happen. Two months later in February, something really strange happened. Someone, and I believe it was someone at Buzzfeed, cut a clip of a video from the q and a portion of that UK event. This is again over two months later. And they stripped the question that was asked of me, you'll remember the scandal. What I'm about to tell you about this is crazy. Again, I was green so I didn't understand why suddenly they were sharing a clip and they were saying that I was justifying Hitler, Adolf Hitler killing Jews.

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A person asked me, Candace, you describe yourself as a nationalist, that is sometimes a dirty turn because people don't like the words nationalism. And I answered by saying, well that's 'cause they wrongly attributed to Adolf Hitler and he wasn't a nationalist. I didn't even mention Jews at all. I'm gonna actually show you what I said and I was standing next to Charlie when I said it, which is relevant. Take a listen.

4 (18m 51s):
Yeah, I agree. I I actually don't have any problems at all with the word nationalism. I think that it gets, the definition gets poisoned by elitist that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I, what I don't want. So when you think about, whenever we say nationalism, the first thing people think about in at least in America is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist. But if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is, is that he wanted, he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize, he wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism. So in thinking about how we could go bad down the line, I don't really, I don't really have an issue with nationalism.

4 (19m 32s):
I really don't. I think that it's okay, it's important to retain your, your country's identity and to make sure that what's happening here, which I think is incredibly worrisome in terms of the, just the, the decrease in the birth rate that we're seeing in the UK is what you kind of wanna avoid. So I'm not, I don't have anything problem. I have no problems with nationalism. It's globalism that I try to avoid.

0 (19m 54s):
Now I know that these online campaigns are inorganic and that what actually happened was this was a hit, this was a hit. They pulled the clip and then a bunch of people were articles saying that I supported Adolf Hitler and that I said, if Hitler had just wanted to make Germany great again, then okay fine, that's fine. No context again. And it was like a severe cancel culture attack saying that I supported Jews being killed in the Holocaust. It was insane. Again, Charlie and I were very new and this was very scary. We were kind of coming upon a high point and going, why do people want to destroy us? We don't know what this is. And at the same time, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and this is again another interesting piece of this, put me like issued a statement against my comments.

0 (20m 36s):
Simon Wiesenthal Center were like the, the official Holocaust people. And this girl is obviously supporting Hitler. It was heavy. It was, it was so heavy. And I laugh in retrospect because I thought it was all real. I didn't realize this was a, a matrix of people who wanted to pull me and Charlie apart. That's what they wanted to do. They wanted to put pressure on him so donors would pressure him and be like, Hey, she's supporting Halo, it's such a bad look. And then they would find me broken and scared and upset and going, I don't know how Jewish people could think that I would support Hitler. And that's what I was saying. And this amazing thing happened that despite this, that the hand that came out to me and offered me a job was Prager u Prager U offered me a job.

0 (21m 19s):
This is early 2019. And it was like, hey, like we know that you don't believe these things. And at the time I thought they were just being friends. I don't know what to think anymore. Marissa Strai, the CEO has never shied from telling people that she is, you know, in the IDF, she works, she worked intelligence in the IDF right in Israel. And I was, I took the job with them and Charlie and I still climbed together. But we were also working apart at the same time. We kept doing the campuses and the campus tours, but I was officially working for PragerU and one of the first things that happened, almost the way it feels to me was like, we can save you, but here's what you have to do was Marissa took me to the Simon Weisenthal Center.

0 (22m 6s):
And again, I was so grateful. I was like, who do I have to say sorry to? To so that they know that I don't hate juice. This is what happened. I'm telling you this is what happened in 2019. And there was like some chief rabbi looking character and him and her spoke in Hebrew. I didn't understand a word of what was said in front of me. And then we left and everything was fine. My reputation was restored temporarily throughout that timeframe. Thereafter, I'm doing my show. I think my first episode with PR Prager U was in March. Charlie still climbing, turning Point USA as you know, became a behemoth. I remember speaking at their conferences and saying that they were now running like a military operation.

0 (22m 52s):
It was so efficient on time, it was tactical. And I did not realize at that time how prescient that thought would become. Because as you guys know, in my old age, I have grown increasingly interested in genealogy as you really start to recognize certain patterns when you look into who people's fathers are, who their grandfathers were, who their great-grandfathers were. And the one thing that has shocked me about Charlie and Turning Point USA is just how many military characters were surrounding him, even in September 10th, people that were in the hospital, right? Let's just, you know, take a look at the chart that we have put together.

0 (23m 32s):
And this is in an early phase, but it's interesting at the very least. Okay, we've got Frank Turk and Frank Turk if we wanna go through this. We got Andrew ve, Rob McCoy, Mikey McCoy, Tyler Boyer. Let's go through, let's start with Frank Tarek, if, if we have that card. And Frank Tarek, again has been honest, former officer in the US Navy and then he turned to Christian Apologetics. He has two sons that are in the military fly planes as well as one of his son's spouses that that's in the military. Again, he's never lied about this Andrew Vet by the way, if you don't know, I didn't know. I don't think Charlie knew de certainly not when Tyler brought him or when he got hired.

0 (24m 13s):
His brother, captain Kurt Covet is in the military. His cousin Captain Robert Vet is high up in the military. So that's interesting. Very interesting to me at least. 'cause I just am like, oh that's kind of something I was not aware of. I thought he was just a PR guy, someone that was working PR and was found and things, you know, went forward. Obviously Rob McCoy, another pastor, a pastor with a very strong military background, pastor Rob McCoy, his father was the naval captain, was a naval captain. Roy Edgar McCoy. But also, and this is kind of shocking, his father was also the assistant chief of staff for psychological warfare in the Navy psychological warfare.

0 (25m 2s):
This is the name of the game. And that trajectory is increasingly interesting to me. I think we have this clip from an investigative journalist named George Webb who speaks a little bit further about Rob and obviously this is Mikey McCoy's family. Take a listen.

5 (25m 18s):
McCoy does have this strange military background. He does have this strange seemingly putting his son in there and guiding the hand for this new apostolic revival that he is a na person. He is the kind of the na push for Charlie. Charlie was meeting with Na Na we're we're the $25 million and above donors in the C from the Christian. Right. The Ziklag was the name of the organization. So all that's correct, that's correct information. And

0 (25m 53s):
What happened in my life after that was I went from Prager U and you got a pastor, you know, from the military, two pastors from the military there, I'm telling you Marissa, straight military. I then went to obviously the Daily Wire and the president at the time of a Daily Wire was also a naval intelligence officer who decided to become a pastor. That was John Lewis. And I'm like, actually in retrospect, what are the chances that we just have so many military people that are in media? How organic is this? Who's the biggest person on YouTube? Right? I just like, I, I just got interested, I started asking questions like is are we in a military simulation, Mr.

0 (26m 38s):
Beast, both of his parents high up in the military, do you think he really was just getting trillions and gazillions of views because people wanted to see somebody count to a million or is that interesting? But also it might be relevant that his family's military, like pie up in the military. Everywhere I looked every time I was like, well this person, you know, I got interested even in Lila Rose, right? Catholic does this whole speaks about and she's always been very lovely to me, speaks about the pro-life movement and converted to Catholicism and got a story there. I met her through Marissa, kind of the same people funding both.

0 (27m 20s):
And it was kind of interesting like when I would see Lila kind of jump on the attacking the crisis king or trying to rationalize why we shouldn't say crisis king all the time. And she was like a lone Catholic that was doing that. And I then got super interested in her when she messaged me about Andrew Tate and she had someone on her show that was Andrew Tate's, one of the accuser's lawyers. And I was like, this has nothing to do with the pro-life movement. What are you doing? I asked her and she's like, well, and that woman that attacked me and Tucker Carlson, I said, that's weird. Like, that's kind of random. You're supposed to be the pro-life person and you're talking about an, you're talking to Andrew vet's a a part the party to that lawsuit.

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You're talking to her lawyer. Why on your show? Why are you the first show she would pick? Why doesn't she go on like CNN or Fox News? And I looked and of course yeah, you got military, military all over of that background. And I'm going, is anything not military? I'm looking at Barry Weiss and I'm looking into her grandfather and there's a story that's just incredible bomb thrown on at his house in, I think it's in Philly or somewhere in, maybe it's Pittsburgh. And that's related to the casinos. I mean the whole thing starts getting really crazy when you realize everyone somehow attached to Raytheon, right, Mr. Beast, they're all attached to Raytheon in one way or the other. And I find that to be interesting and there's more, by the way, I'm in the early days of research here and there's a lot more I'm gonna present, present to you guys, but I think we can all acknowledge that we were lied to about the 30 odd six, right?

0 (28m 57s):
I know for a fact Charlie's neck was not destroyed. Certainly was not destroyed. And if I'm lying, sue me for defamation and you'll learn exactly how I know that this is what makes Andrew Covets tweet explaining the conversation with the surgeon. Especially interesting you remember, he's like, oh. And the surgeon said, well I would've taken down a moose and yeah, but Charlie's neck, he's the man of steel. And people rightly said, that's not the job of the surgeon. That's kind of the job of forensics to say that the medical examiner would be the right person to say that. By the way, who was the me, the, the medical examiner? Who were the doctors and any chance they were military, any chance they were military?

0 (29m 38s):
I'm just wondering And here's what I discovered preliminarily, the answer's yes. Okay. The doctor who worked on Charlie was Dr. Lee Trotter. And regarding Dr. Lee Trotter, he did his residency on the Air Force base. Right? He completed residency at the Keesler Air Force Medical Center in Mississippi, Mississippi. I think he actually might be in the Air Force from what I'm looking at. Can't confirm that entirely. But I, there's a person who matches his name, age description, living where he's living, who is actually in the Air Force. And he also for a fact is a pilot. So it would track that he was in the military. That's interesting.

0 (30m 19s):
The medical examiner, Dr. Gira Smith Amara, who that would be the appropriate person to have had the conversation with. Also someone that in my dream, Charlie told me I should look into, she's a major in the army. She's also from a major corporation. Her, she's from the Erickson family, the Erickson Boyd Corporation is her family. She tells people that she is a direct descendant of Leaf Erickson. This brings us into like Swedish Freemason stuff. Okay? And I'm sure like I'm certain she's an Erickson, like a thousand percent certain that she's an Erickson.

0 (31m 1s):
She's also now a lesbian. And I'm thinking, why, why was she just made a major in the army? Why did they need this woman in? Why were people researching these doctors and this specific medical examiner? What the heck is going on? There's more, there's a lot more that I haven't covered, but I'm painting a picture here for you. Okay. I think the military industrial complex that Eisenhower forewarned of military industrial complex that shot JFK to maintain power has created a veneer of reality for us. And it is not so, right? We are under avail. I think that these corporations are people that are put the head of these corporations and we're told that they're geniuses or they're just so successful.

0 (31m 46s):
Like Mr. Beast, these are, these are military operations is what I'm singling to you guys. So be aware of that. I think this military industrial complex has had a lot of actors. We have military grade actors, some of which I think were there when Charlie got shot. Weird, weird behavior from people, the first people to get booked. It was hard to find a student that spoke to a mainstream media news organization on that day. Something's not right. There are too many military players that were surrounding Charlie and they weren't there before 2018. They weren't there until forces were trying to pull me and Charlie apart.

0 (32m 29s):
I had it on my heart to share this with you because I think it will help you. When you start to look at things and assess people and they tell you he is a genius, then you learn that they have, I don't know, a contract with the Department of Defense. He might just be a military great actor meant to lead a company because if we all looked up and realized the military owns everything and maybe has owned everything and controlled everything since they shot JFK, well that wouldn't be a good thing for us to know, right? And we don't know it. We don't know know it, but I kind of know. Lastly, there is something interesting that I was kind of hesitant to speak about, but I I'm going to, I was hesitant to speak about about it 'cause I didn't want it to like lead to a thousand conspiracy theories that are just wrong.

0 (33m 14s):
But I'm interested, and I again wanna caution you don't span outta control. I'm actually want some information because there could be something that I'm missing. I am not from the medical field. Okay? But on September 10th thereafter, as had been doing these episodes, we had received a flurry of tips from people telling us that Charlie was not at Timpanogos Hospital, but was at UVU hospital. And I was like, remember there's this whole thing, like why did they go to tempos? Tempos was like a level three trauma center when the closer one was UVU, we never really understood why the ambulance wasn't there when it was required by law. He goes into this car, we don't really know. We don't, when I say we don't know, as in we don't, we have no footage or any indication of the driver.

0 (33m 56s):
The arrival at Tim Bongos. And I thought it was weird that we had people that were saying I was downstairs at UVU and Charlie was brought in and I am telling you, he was definitely at this hospital. Somebody else said to me, I was receiving treatment, I don't know if it was cancer treatment downstairs or upstairs. And we knew he was at this hospital. And then somebody came in and announced that Charlie had just died upstairs. It was very strange. And I was like, okay, that's just, people get confused. They may have heard from maybe a nurse texted a, a nurse. There's a lot of ways that could have happened. But then we received an email from somebody in the medical staff at UVU saying, I'm certain that he was here and I have a medical file that we, and the text that we received at 2:08 PM saying that we're not allowed to touch the medical file.

0 (34m 40s):
And here is the entry in the UVU system for Charlie Kirk. It had his right birthday, had his age, it had an MRN number. And then this individual shared the internal message that went out telling them that they're not allowed to touch the file. Here it is. Hi all. There was a media event that took place today that led to a trauma patient. Due to the nature of a situation, the only individuals who will be allowed in the chart will be Deborah and myself. No one else is allowed to hover or open the chart. Jacob blank, Deb and I will be doing the log tomorrow. Thanks. And let me know if you have any questions.

0 (35m 23s):
Now, in my mind, I said maybe the reason for this is these two medical hospitals speak to each other. You know, like if you go to CVS and you pick up a prescription at one location, the other location knows that it happens. I've confirmed that doesn't seem to be the circumstance. It's a, it's possible that it could be because maybe Dr. Lee Trotter, which I have heard works at both limited surgeons going back and forth. That's somehow it created a file. But I'd like to know definitively what the answer for that is. Why he also has a file at UVU, why there seemed to be so much confusion. Again, we don't need to go crazy with conspiracy theories. There could be a logical answer.

0 (36m 5s):
I have not stumbled upon it yet. And so medical community, feel free to email us at more tips@candaceowens.com Okay? We're gonna take a brief break before we get into Turning Point USA's response to Mikey McCoy's actions.

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0 (40m 12s):
Okay, I just wanna correct, thank you guys in the chat for correcting me. Not, I think I said UVU U Medical, I meant to say Utah Valley Hospital. UVU is obviously on my mind because it is the university, it is Utah Valley Hospital is where that file was and that person and some people that I confirmed with said that their two systems don't speak together. So, but there could be another logical explanation. Maybe someone called ahead and then they made a decision because of traffic to go somewhere else. But I would like to get to the bottom of that. Okay, let's jump in here to T PSA's response to the Mikey McCoy. Actually, it wasn't really a response because to be fair, they did their episode before my episode went out. Charlie Kirk's show is before my show is, but it was their response to the Mikey McCoy video going viral.

0 (40m 57s):
So not a response to me, but rather a response to the people who had pulled this out who had discovered this over the weekend to like James Lee, Ian Carroll, Sam Parker. And here is what Andrew Colbert had to say. He is gonna tell us that Mikey was told to do this in the event of this type of an emergency by, you guessed it, Charlie Kirk take a listen.

6 (41m 22s):
Here's the last thing I wanna make a point of. And Charlie, 'cause Charlie had given me similar instructions along the years, said, if anything ever happens to me, you call Erica. Yeah, that is, that's the other thing. And he drilled that into Mikey's brain so that when this moment of trauma happened, that he turned around and he knew how to do it. And by the way, I just, last thing because this is part of the, the video allegations here is that they think they, they're alleging that he was on the phone immediately. He was not. He was taking social videos, which he would send to our group chat, which we would then put on Charlie's social while the event was happening. So you could see like the crowd come in or his interactions. And we were only two questions into this event. So he was still getting it out to all the chats he needed to do, which he did at every event.

6 (42m 4s):
He turns around and it was so blaringly loud, I'm told you would know this better than, but this is what I'm told. It was so blaringly loud and he was so shellshocked. He put his fingers in his ear but his phone was still in his hand. He walks away and he's, I mean

7 (42m 17s):
He, and not even, not even a walk. I wanna, because people are talking about that enough, the way it was is we had a cordoned off area with, you know, rates so you could had controlled access. All the people, when this happens, they all get the idea we should leave before we are shot. And so there's a little narrow gap that I think people, it's not really walking, it's that everyone has to slow up to get through this little narrow choke point to get out of the area.

0 (42m 42s):
Okay? Elsewhere they say that. So basically he was on the phone, he was holding his ears, okay. And then once he got out into the distance beyond Charlie, beyond the car that Charlie would be carried into is when he called Erica first and then his father. That's what they tell us now in regards to him saying that Mikey was taking social videos. I can tell you it tracks that Mikey would be taking videos behind. Like we know when Charlie first comes outta the event, he's throwing hats that tracks that. Def absolutely is a thing at Turning Point USA, you follow the person to get behind the scenes. I would have Savannah do this before Mikey McCoy did this, it was Sarah Schmack Berger. And they do that. They like the behind the scenes reactions, but in this particular video, he's not standing where you can get a view of Charlie asking a question.

0 (43m 30s):
So this, this part is not tracking, okay? Mikey is not standing to the side of Charlie. He is behind. And so if you're saying what earlier, we're supposed to see him, the best place to stand if you're gonna get a video of Charlie asking a question, is going to be in a place where you can see both Charlie and the person asking the question. And that's just not where he's standing. So that excuse doesn't make sense to me. Now maybe he's saying he was, and Mikey was there when he was throwing hats out and he was there trying to send videos thereafter once things got started, that's all possible. I don't know regarding him putting his hands up to his ear. It does sound completely plausible to me that if you first hear a gunshot, you're gonna naturally do this.

0 (44m 13s):
Right? That kind of makes sense. You're gonna go, what? You know, what was that maybe? And then I think typically you'd get down and the issue that I have is he just, I never see him take that phone down. Maybe he does, right? Maybe he does. We don't know for a fact. And so we should be clear that it doesn't look to me like he's just covering his ears there. But maybe he is. What I will say is that it would be unlikely that you would keep holding your ears until you get all the way out and that you wouldn't duck down. And regarding Charlie always told us to call Erica if anything happens.

0 (44m 55s):
Yeah, that's kind of common sense. That's not exactly like, Hey, if I get shot in the throat, don't help me and call Erica. I think obviously if I, that's called like first of kin, right? First of kin. If something happens to me, call George. Something happens to George, call Candace. That is almost in the sphere of common sense. So I believe that, I don't believe that Charlie said if I get shot, don't help me calmly walk away and call Erica first. Like I think, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Like I said, we have nothing to go off of. I think it's curious that we're hearing this from Andrew and we're not hearing it from Mikey McCoy. It's very easy to dispel any in internet innuendo.

0 (45m 35s):
You don't actually have to jump into ad hominin attacks. The first thing I would've done, just like I did when I was being accused of colluding on the Blake Lively story, when I got drafted into that lawsuit and they thought that I was working with Blake Lively's, sorry, working with Justin Baldoni, he's team is, I quite literally live subpoenaed myself, held on my phone. I typed in Blake Lively and I showed you the only two times that I had ever texted about her in my phone at all to demonstrate that there was no collusion happening and no one compelled me to speak. It's just, it's, it was a ridiculous thing for her to say. I laughed at it. I wasn't upset about it, right? And I said, this is crazy.

0 (46m 16s):
Here is my phone. I'm live opening it for you. Why? Why not do that? Doesn't that seem easier to like, the easier thing if you feel that pressure is to just say, I'm gonna dispel this. It's kind of like the Jit Macron thing. Hey, here's a couple of pictures of me raising my kids. It 30 years was missing. 'cause I, I really was just camera shy. I'm just gonna show you the pictures. It's so much easier. Rather than fighting a tit for tat war to just share the truth, people are uncomfortable. It's gonna get even more interesting though because Alex Marlowe, who runs Bra Bart News was their guest for the day on the show, and he then kind of shifts gears and pretends like, we're all drug addicts, right? We're just high on conspiracy theory.

0 (46m 56s):
Take elicit, there's

8 (46m 58s):
A suggestion online that Mikey Charlie's chief of staff, one of the most sincere people you'd ever meet, brilliant Christian, kind, everyone who's he ever met in his entire life, couldn't hurt a fly, was part of a conspiracy to murder Charlie. That's what's going on,

7 (47m 11s):
Essentially. Yeah, it's, it's vile. It's, it's utterly vile. Who

8 (47m 14s):
Would do what type of individual just to create content, do we think? Or is there some, what's the ulterior, I,

7 (47m 19s):
I don't know. I think a lot of this mindset just sort of fuels itself. It's, it's sort of addictive in the same way. A lot of social media stuff is addictive or in the way, like honestly something like pornography is addictive or something. Like, they get really, they, they almost get a, they get a high off of like the idea of like, that they're doing something that's daring or out there.

0 (47m 45s):
So that right there is a psychological operation and because we're reading about Sigmund Freud, they diagnose you when they don't want you to look into something, they diagnose you. So right there he's going, oh my, are they just doing this to create content? Are these people akin to drug addicts are just high on the conspiracy theory. They're gaslighting you and then they're diagnosing you. So we all just watch Charlie die. We were having a perfectly rational response to watching that and then watching the strange reaction of his peers or the non-reaction of his peers who just want our money, right? And are, are, are asking for Susie Wiles. I, it's the craziest part of his whole thing for me. It was like, why is Susie wiles? I dunno, it just feels really weird, like a weird pick for her to eulogize him.

0 (48m 27s):
But yeah, and, and not maybe his parents, maybe they didn't want to actually, they were quite private people. But all this happens and we're having a natural reaction, which is we feel alarmed, we feel suspicious, and they're going, oh, you're a drug addict. You're, you know what? I get it. You kind of like porn. You're into that. You're into the porn thing. It's, oh, I get it. No, I, I get it. If, if you wanna watch porn all day, you wanna watch porn all day, that my friends psychological operation steal yourselves against this. Yes, we are asking questions. No, we are not akin to people that watch pornography all day and no, we're not getting high on it. We're gonna get high when we find out what actually happened.

0 (49m 9s):
That's gonna feel like a high to us, right? That's gonna be that natural rush that we feel when we've actually solved what happened to Charlie Kirk. So let me, let me answer you back on that. Alex Marlowe, be careful 'cause I might do your genealogy. Don't want me doing that. Careful. Then we have Frank Tarek who engages in this same sort of act of psychological manipulation in my viewpoint, and he defends Mikey McCoy, I think this is on his own show. Here's what he had to say.

9 (49m 35s):
There's a difference between a possibility and evidence for a possibility. You can speculate on anything you want, but unless you have evidence, shut up. Okay? Because all you're doing is causing dissension among the brothers, which is something the Lord hates. If you wanna present a possibility and say, well, this could be true, okay, it could be true, but don't accuse people for doing something for which you have no evidence. I heard today, I guess I hadn't seen it myself, but I heard today she was judging people who didn't act the right way.

9 (50m 19s):
I dunno if anyone, did anyone seen this video? She did. They, she, according to Candace Owens, these people did not act the right way After Charlie's death, like my friend Mikey McCoy, the brilliant 24-year-old who at the time when Charlie was shot, was 23 and was a hero that day. He apparently didn't act the right way. According to Candace Owens, he didn't act normal. Newsflash, there is no normal, when you're in shock, there is no normal. When an abnormal thing happens, some people are gonna act one way. Other people are gonna act another way. You don't know how you would react. I didn't know how I would react.

9 (51m 0s):
The only reason that I did what I did is 'cause I thought about it before. I was afraid somebody would take a shot at Charlie, and I thought to myself, if it does happen, what am I gonna do? Decide now And what I want, what I wanted to do would do anything I could to save him.

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0 (52m 2s):
Couple of psychological manipulations happening there. First is like the academic one where he's trying to present himself as an authority on the topic and saying to you like, there is no, you know, no, everybody can do anything when shots are fired. We don't know when you're shocked by shots being fired. Some people just, you know, start doing the hokey pokey. You know, not we ca I mean, look, some people literally when they hear shots fired, they get on a table and they start dancing and singing and saying, shoot me, shoot me. You know, like George Zin, that's, Hey, we don't know. He was in shock. George Zin. I did it. I did it. That's a normal, hey, we don't know, right? Like we do actually know that we all have a baseline response to danger.

0 (52m 46s):
You run towards it because you want to rescue people. These are the heroes in the story. Or you run away from it, right? That's a baseline. Or you freeze. You literally just are paralyzed by fear. Kind of maybe I'd say three baseline things that you can expect, right? I dunno what to do. I'm running away from this or I know exactly what to do and I need to rescue other people. So don't do that. The other thing he's doing of course is the biblical manipulation, which seems to me, to me to be that there has been a military infiltration into the churches. I think we've covered that enough this year. I've termed that Operation Mocking pastor where they just try to find some scripture and justify it. And he's a pastor. He's earned trusts. He's saying she's judging people. The Lord says this, the Lord says she shouldn't look into the trial.

0 (53m 28s):
The Lord says she shouldn't ask questions. The Lord thinks that people should just shut up, right? That to me is like the sickest form of manipulation. The sickest form of manipulation is to try to present it via the lens of what God would want. You don't have to do that. Just say what you think, say what you mean and try to manipulate people the old school way. Okay? Now speaking of psychological operations, the one safe place is my book club, okay? I'm like we're real, like you know, we're ratchet in the, in the book club. I say whatever, 'cause I know people that are in there. If they're ready for it, I'm throwing to them. We're talking about Frank and we're talking about the Kabbalah.

0 (54m 9s):
We're talking about the infiltration into the churches. Intentional as an aspect of Frank of the Frankest movement. And we go pretty quickly, we're reading these books, we're learning about Sigmund Freud, right? It starts with Sigmund Freud, it ends with Operation Mocking Pastor or that's where we are at right now. And I have so much fun. And what happened was Zionists actually purchased the book club, passed the book club, and they then started sharing clips and watermarked it as if it was their own content to make money off of this guy. Milk bar tv. I was like, you're getting hit with a copyright strike my friend, okay. Proud of myself. Hit him with a copyright strike. 'cause he literally put milk bar TV content on the corner.

0 (54m 51s):
He watermarked my content to then smear me, right? If you're gonna watermark my content, at least don't smear me and call me a crazy person. And what they were upset with was that I said that it was ridiculous and I meant it by the way. So shocking. I say what I mean that we're supposed to think that Charlie is being honored because he got a Charlie Kirk Day in October. I will feel Charlie is honored, okay? When we figure out who killed him, because I'm not buying a loan shooter, shooter thing. So I said, miss me with the whole holiday theater, tell me who actually killed him. And it's a typical federal maneuver, by the way, to kill someone like Martin Luther King or jfk. And then they get a holiday, they get a boulevard. That's what I said.

0 (55m 31s):
And I would've said it off the book club, but they clipped it, tried to take it out of context. But it's not 2018 and I am not new to what you guys do. These out of context clips are just not hitting the same. The people are awake, they know what's happening here. They see what you're doing. And then he cried, by the way, when he, he got hit with a copyright strike. I couldn't believe it. Talk about literally crying while you strike someone else. Like you stole my content. You got caught stealing my content and trying to make money off of it. And then he, he tweets Candace Owens hit my account. This is Nathan Livingstone. I tried to steal and she didn't let me. Why is she trying to silence me? Why won't she let me steal? You can pay for a pass, you can watch it, but you can't steal my content.

0 (56m 13s):
Anyways, guys, it's amazing. Like it's, I think it's actually amazing that our book club that infiltrated, we're gonna have to be more careful in there. Just kidding, I won't be. I will be just as ratchet as I always, always am in the book club. Lastly, we gotta get to Brae Macron because I think everybody now is really tired of her lying about having been born with a penis. Not my fault, okay? If you have not, by the way, watched the Becoming Bridgette series and you are appreciating what I'm doing with the Charlie Kirk series, go back and watch it. Same thing. All I did was tell the truth and people were upset and then the series went viral. I mean by people, I mean the media was upset. The series went viral. There's no way you can watch the series and come out of it thinking that Bridgette was born a female.

0 (56m 53s):
You can't just disappear 30 years of your life. You can't just say, I didn't take a picture for 30 years. It doesn't work like that. Okay? Such an easy, lowest baby bar ever to set to dispel the rumors. Hey, can we get some pictures from your wedding day? Like you know, you with your family and not just pictures that have been given to us from a woman who quite literally is facing charges for falsifying pictures. Like we've got like four photos of the whole life and yeah, I'm being sued because that's the next logical step. You sue people for telling the truth to scare them. And it's all related by the way, talking about who Jit actually is, the families that Brigit is related to the fact that Emmanuel Macron is in fact, just like the state of Israel, a Rothschild's creation, talking about the military industrial complex and talking about the Kabbalah.

0 (57m 46s):
Kabbalah very much is the reason for this push in culture for transgenderism. We'll get more into that in the book club, which gets a bit more theological, but that's a very important series. And basically what happened this week is people who hadn't even watched the series were like, okay, I've seen enough brae. Macron crying because she doesn't know, she brae doesn't know why. But on the tax forms, the French tax forms brae is listed as Jean Michel and listed as a male. So they're trying to lie and tell the public that they think this was done by a team of hackers, okay? Hackers who they haven't arrested, okay, who? What? Hacker Y by this happened years ago, right?

0 (58m 26s):
It was actually someone who worked for her who said, oh this is weird. Like I'm in your account right now and you're registered as a dude named Jean-Michel. Mr. Brome was the guy who did this a go, a government official. He made the rev revelation and he recounted how what? Brae was stunned to learn that her legal name had been quote unquote changed when she logged into her personal tax account. We were completely surprised, said Mr. Buray. Oh, okay, so we're supposed to believe the government, which Brigit is controlling. By the way, this person Buray worked with has worked with the couple since 2017 and we're supposed to believe that a hacker was gonna risk hacking the president of France, okay?

0 (59m 12s):
The government had to be, the government decided to hack the government and to only change the name. Like if you're gonna risk that kind of an offense, that's sort of a criminal offense, at least take the money, at least say, and they wiped out $2 million. It was a crazy hack, a little joke at the end of it, but no, just wanted to hack and risk criminal charges to change your name to Jean-Michel way back when, when this wasn't even a viral story. I mean, completely ridiculous, okay? You were born Jean-Michel Ganau, you transitioned and you've been put in this position of power and I don't know why they would do this. You got away with offending Emmanuel when he was 14 years old, sexual offense and you went after, I mean he was a child, in my view, in everyone's view, a 14-year-old kid, you got a 40-year-old adult that goes after him and now you're pretending you are the victim, okay?

0 (1h 0m 10s):
A little bit crazy. We're getting tired of it. You can't just keep pretending everything is just happening to you. Just present some pictures. Stop pretending that you're offering genetic evidence in the court hearing against me. You're not even suing me for the claim that I said you were born a male. You're suing me for the claim that I said you stole your sister's identity to transition. That's what you're suing me over amongst very many other things that are ridiculous. And you've never offered genetic evidence 'cause you didn't even get to that stage of the hearing. We have not gotten to any stage actually, it's like the back forth tit for tat changing, the filings all very preliminary.

0 (1h 0m 50s):
You're just doing the most in terms of pr, trying to convince the world against something that we recognize, which is that you were born a male. So we mean about Chrome. Come clean everybody. And I mean everybody worldwide is exhausted with your wife's penis. We're gonna take a quick break and get some of your comments.

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All right, first comment. Kip writes my copy of Making Him a sandwich came in the mail today. Thank you for all that you do. Candace, thank you for helping me navigate being a stay-at-home mom, thank you for helping me find faith again and thank you for fighting for Charlie. Love that comment so much. Also, yes, making him a sandwich. I'm so proud of this book. Please tag me when you get it. I get really happy when you guys tagged me in the book 'cause it really was a labor of love and like I said, I wrote every word of this and I did it outside of the Matrix. So there is no book publisher that is involved, no mainstream Simon Schuster person. We decided to self-publish and we used actually an amazing Catholic book printer to do this. So I'm proud of that. Grooving with Christ Writes, I love that you are wearing the miraculous metal.

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Living in God's truth is like serenity on steroids. God bless, I should have mentioned by the way that you can buy this at make him a sandwich.com. Make him a sandwich.com if you wanna know where to get that book. And yes it, it also helps the Catholic book printer that worked with us on this. And they were, like I said, phenomenal. John Diamond writes, Candace, welcome back. We missed you. Of course. I know you're catching up on current events. Let me summarize. Everything is still Fak and gay. Please give your husband and kids a huge hug from all of us. They are the ones who support you every day. Thank God for them. They are. They are amazing. And it is because of my family that I, I genuinely like I know that I was saved because I had the confidence to be more of myself when I married George.

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And he has supported me through everything and me never having the fashionable opinion. And of course it impacts his knock on effect with the world that he knew me and my husband. Think about this. My husband used to work with and he used to donate to like the Friends of Israel when he was in the UK and he married me. And so yeah, I mean I was, I I would say I was pro Israel when we met, but it's, life has changed dramatically and he has been there and has always supported me. Stewarts Dian writes, hi Candace, would you mind sharing your homeschooling plan sometime? My wife and I tried twice traditional and unschooling, but it did not succeed. I'd love to know what's working for you. Thanks and keep up the great work. First thing I wanna say, it has been an absolute gift to have my kids at home.

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I can't explain to you I am a happier person because of it. I can't believe we just send off the joy and go to work. Everything they say. It's so cute to watch the way their brains are forming and to realize that it's really hard to explain concepts when they take everything so literally. And the number one thing that I will say and I will do a deeper episode on this is micro schooling, right? So like I take the first two hours for the kids and, but it is a family that has two kids that are just around the same age. And then it's my two older kids which are around the same age and my, my other two are way too young. I have, you know, an infant and I have a soon to be 2-year-old. So they're not in it community. Find a local community of people to do it with and figure it out.

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Obviously I am blessed and I recognize that, that I get to work more in the afternoon and I don't have to have the, you know, the full eight hour day. But you can figure it out and you will be a happier person if you do. Mrs. Preppy writes, do you hold hope that the Trump administration could come through with justice for Charlie? What if Trump is considering reconsidering his love for Israel? Like Charlie there is Ivanka Trump wouldn't and couldn't do anything without getting his daughter back. No, I don't hold out any hope at all actually. And the fact that Trump even invited Cash Patel to that Charlie Holiday thing, which I'll get into tomorrow. We're establishing a holiday I think is proof to me that he wants this buried.

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I think actually Don Jr may have even said that he accepts the narrative. I'll have to dig up that clip for you guys tomorrow. I have no hope whatsoever and I don't believe he's reconsidering his love for Israel. Miriam Adelson gave him a hundred million dollars and she was explicit. 100 million meant that he would allow them to annex, not Gaza, the West Bank. So all this chatter of oh, that would be a step too far, no blah, blah blah. He pre-agreed to that and he's gonna make it on his pre agreement. That's my perspective. Someone asked, did you background check Ian Carroll? No about to do is genealogy. Thank you. Thank you very much for that. RN Explorer writes those hiding the truth.

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Better hope Candace does not turn out pregnant with a boy right now. I stand with the truth with Charlie and Candace. So true. You know me, I want hood rat stuff with my friends when I am pregnant with a boy. I need it all day every day. Beck Build writes great work, Candace, praying for your safety and that Charlie's prophecy that you will lead this movement to victory will empower you even more. Thank you for that. Pixie Chickie writes, Candace, you are class act. You are fighting for Charlie just like he asks you, quoting Maya Angelou, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time you have done that and more to bring truth to light Charlie, to be so proud. I know he's proud. I absolutely know that Charlie is proud and that everything that we discussed, I, I hate that he was right about his life, but I also know that I'm the right person to do this because I came through that matrix and I know what's up and what's down.

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Like they just can't fool me with this stuff. You've done it to me so many times and I survived it. And you can't do the thing that you always do, which is try to convince the world the person is crazy because I'm not giving them that. You did it with Kanye, you psych, put 'em on a psych. 51 50 hold. You do that to many people in Hollywood. I know how it works and I'm teaching people to learn about your psychological operation, which is what it is. Sarah writes, go girl. Love the Aussies. I'm so sad I won't be able to speak there. Gia. Gia writes, love you so much Candace, don't stop exposing these lies. You are a true friend. May God continue to bless you and your family. Love from Toronto and that is all that we had today. You guys, you'd like to support us, please go to make him a sandwich.com.

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Read this book. You are gonna love it. It's a great gift to give to anybody. It's a very funny book. It's a fun book and it's an informative book, which is really important. And women, I definitely think it is on us to learn the origins of the feminist movement. 'cause it's quite sinister. Everything doesn't look sinister, but of course it is sinister and it's probably a part of the military industrial complex. By the way. Like I said, we restocked those cups. We don't know. No, but we know can owens.com. It's another way you can support the show. Buy yourself a stand cup. Other than that, you guys, I, I am just so grateful to you Every single day you are all in my prayers 'cause I know that I am getting the strength from you. Charlie loved the crowd because of the energy.

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We talked about energy all the time. People that had good energy, bad energy. And it is because of you guys fighting for me. I see you guys in the comments. I see you guys going after people's throats when they make a video and I just wanna say from the bottom of my heart, thank you. Thank you so much. I'll see you guys tomorrow.

10/27/25

Charlie's Angels Or Demons? Disturbing Footage Emerges. | Candace Ep 252




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This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan Real United Airlines customers.

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We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Captain Andrew.

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I got to sit in the driver's seat.

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I grew up in an aviation family and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

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That's Andrew. A real united pilot.

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These small interactions can shape a kid's future.

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It felt like I was the captain.

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Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.

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That's how good leads the way.

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All right, you guys. Happy Monday. I am back. I know you guys missed me because I definitely missed you more and I feel so much better. After getting out to the mountains. I've now, I think, officially accepted that Charlie Kirk is not coming back. And somehow it took me longer to get there. Took me longer to accept that fact than it did many others. Some people accepted it within just a matter of days. His quote unquote closest friends, his closest political allies, the White House, they all seemed kind of ready to move on so much faster than I was. And now it's looking like some people even may have accepted Charlie's death within minutes.

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There is a video that is currently circulating of his chief of staff, Mikey McCoy. It's going viral for a lot of reasons. We're gonna go through that video and buckle up because I have an even more exclusive never before seen video that I think is going to make your skin crawl. Plus, I have even more. Never before seen text messages from Charlie Kirk. Incredibly, Charlie Kirk did in fact know that Turning Point was going to be the death of him. And I have proof of that. He also knew that I was the only person who was going to step up to defend him after he was gone. That sounds crazy, but it's the truth.

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So let's get started and welcome back to Candace. So here is where I was. I went to Wyoming to breathe, to hike, to listen to way too much Kanye West Music. I absolutely love the mountains. I am a mountain person, so to speak. Wyoming is in fact my favorite state in the union. And it felt fitting also because the first time I ever visited Wyoming, I was with Charlie Kirk and then visited Wyoming many times thereafter over the years.

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And he was the last time I went to Wyoming, I was with Charlie Kirk. It was the last person I visited with. And it was for ironically, foster Pheresis funeral who was a big time donor to turning Point USA still is, I believe Charlie. I was thinking out there and remembering paid for my flight to Wyoming. I had to get there very quickly because I was doing Joe Rogan's podcast. It was huge. I didn't even know what the Joe Rogan podcast was at that moment. That's how I was so not politically inclined at all. And he's like, this is the biggest podcast. You gotta do this. I completely bombed it, by the way, I was so nervous. I think I said like about 3000 times. But then I had to very quickly get over to Wyoming because Kanye had invited me to his album release party.

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And again, ironically, where he held that album release party would be where years later, foster Frees would have his funeral. And so Wyoming felt fitting. I fished while I was out there. And so I want you guys to know another fun fact about Charlie Kirk. He hated fishing. He absolutely loved the mountains. He loved hiking. He was quite the athlete, but he hated fishing. It just was not his thing. In the same way that golf is just not my thing, fishing was not his. And this photo that I'm about to show you makes me laugh because we were in British Columbia fishing. And here's a photo of me and Charlie and I was so excited about this catch. Charlie's eyes are closed here. And as soon as I think it was Don Jr, it might have been Corey Lewandowski hit Flash, took the picture.

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Charlie just went, Ugh. I dunno why you guys like this, because he was too hyperactive. He always wanted to be planning and doing a million things at once. And fishing. Fishing takes time. You gotta set the bait. It's now been 47 days since my friend Charlie Kirk was executed in front of the world. 'cause that's what it was. A public execution and call me crazy. Many people do. But I was so clearly deluded in the immediate aftermath of his death that I was operating under this function. I mean, I truly believed that I would be fighting for answers to what actually happened on nine 10 alongside Charlie's inner circle.

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I thought the band maybe was gonna get back together. We were all gonna maybe be on a group chat. Me, Tyler Boyer, Andrew Colette, Stacey Sheridan. Even if you're wondering who Stacey Sheridan is, by the way, she's the one who's holding the camera when Charlie's casket is being escorted off of Air Force two, she's like the chief money person essentially at Turning Point USA. She was brought in to reel in the big donors. I remember exactly when that happened. All of those people, by the way, were actually brought in by Tyler Boyer. He's a very important character in the story. But we're gonna get into all of that tomorrow. The point that I'm making here is that I had assumed clearly wrongly, that we'd all maybe be on a group chat, communicating, raising hell, and demanding answers from the feds, from the police, from the White House, even certainly at the very least, pointing out the very many holes in this story.

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And if any of us, any one of us had the audacity or the desire to carry on Charlie Kirk's show, that would be the appropriate venue for asking those sorts of questions. But no, I was wrong. Silence. Silence is what we were met with. In fact, I am told that these people believe the official narrative, lone shooter, no one else involved, just a crazy guy with too many pronouns in his bio. Hey, 1963 calls and they want their narrative back. All that's missing from his story is a grassy knoll, right? The grassy knoll. Anyways, back at headquarters, I am told it's business as usual and it's kind of giving me like, I dunno, LBJ, when it gets sworn in, in that famous picture, unfortunately sworn in, unfortunately, of course he's sad in this photo.

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Gosh, he's obviously not wanting to be the president of the United States. JFK was shot and killed. And now LBJ has to step up unfortunately. But I gotta be honest, I wasn't there. I don't think LBJ was actually that upset. I don't know why vibes, the vibes just aren't vibing for me in that picture. But maybe, maybe he was. Maybe the truth is that LBJ simply use an expression, had his wits about him, and JFK had a plan, like in the event that he had been horrifically assassinated in front of the world, JFK maybe had a succession plan.

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Now, if these terms I'm using here sound familiar to you, it's 'cause they should sound familiar. It's the exact terminology that was utilized by Pastor Rob McCoy just four days after Charlie was murdered in front of his congregation, he spoke about Charlie's succession plan that he was somehow privy to. I don't know why, but he knew four days later and announced to the world that Charlie indeed had a plan, take a listen.

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Everyone's worried about the leadership of T-P-U-S-A don't. He was wise enough at 31 to put together a plan for succession. It's very clear what they decided and they're implementing it now.

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Amazing. I mean, amazing. So on September 14th, we were made aware of this succession plan. And I find that to be fascinating. The people who didn't even know Charlie all around the world seemed to be fighting harder for him, fighting harder for truth. And it is in fact thanks to people on the internet like Sam Parker, James Lee, Ian, Carol Zeeb, Boykin, many others at a video from September 10th has gone pretty viral. Okay, so let's take a look at this. It's a video of, of course, pastor Rob McCoy's son.

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His name is Mike McCoy. And you're gonna see what he does not in the seconds following Charlie getting shot, but in less than one second after Charlie gets shot, there were, these are not seconds, less than one second, you're gonna watch what Michael McCoy does. First, let's hear his daddy's version of the event. Take it away, pastor McCoy.

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As a father, I just, I want to protect my son. And I thought I, I got a plan for you son. He said, dad, that's not Charlie's plan. And, and you know what? I'm looking at my son who's 24 years old, Justin's the chief CFO chief financial officer. And, and Mikey's the chief of staff. And, and I'm watching the, the minute Charlie was shot, he called me, he says, dad, Charlie's been shot in the neck. Please call every pastor and pray. I said, okay son. He was, he has wits about him. He was just directing.

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He had blood all over him. And

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Two things I want you to remember here. You may have caught that. But he said, I was watching and the minute Charlie got shot, he called and, and Mikey McCoy says to his dad, Charlie's been shot. Pray for him. He says, the minute maybe he's being a little hyperbolic, we're gonna find out. I'd certainly like to find out. But he stops himself. He goes, I was watching watching what exactly what were you watching? I remember that it's rubbing me the wrong way and I'm gonna tell you why that rubbing me the wrong way in a little bit. But the bigger thing is that he says Mikey had blood all over him, except Mikey did not have blood anywhere near him because Mikey was behind the tent when Charlie got shot.

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And Mikey in less than a second, does something that I find to be quite strange. He puts his phone to his ear and he begins a conversation. So we're gonna watch that clip in its entirety. Mark is going to bring it in. So we decided to slow this clip down and we're gonna watch this clip set slow down so you can see that it is exactly 834 milliseconds from the time that you hear the shots.

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That is how long it takes for Mikey McCoy to put the phone to his ear. Now why is that precise timing so important? Because there's no dialing. Mikey didn't have time to dial. Okay? You can't dial and put your phone to an ear in 0.83, four seconds. The next time that you're gonna see Mike, Mikey Macquarie, as we just showed you, is in just under two and a half seconds on the other side of the tent. He's on a phone call. So we can track Mikey, but let's watch the clip again in millisecond. So you really grasp how quickly this transpires. So when this clip was brought, There we go.

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We're tracking that. Yeah. When the clip was brought to my attention, I, I obviously have a file, I have big folder of files of every angle. And I decided to track Mikey from every angle available to see like maybe we just missed it. And he did at some point. Put that phone down, dial a number, speed dial hold down one. I don't know, maybe we missed it. 'cause that seems, that seems automatic right? Point eight three four, that seems pretty quick and no, no, he doesn't do that. We even have him in front of Charlie's car when Charlie's car is, when Charlie is brought to the car, the waiting car rather, he is still on the phone.

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And I can show you the clip of that. Take a look at this, don't worry, we'll slow it down for you. See him in the background with the backpack. It's Mikey McCoy. Okay, so what are we to make of that? The only logical conclusion that I can come up with and many others because I've pressed, I said play devil's advocate. I want you to advocate for Mikey McCoy. I want you to play lawyer. And you are representing your client Mikey McCoy. What was he, how did he do it this quickly? No one could win this game. The only logical conclusion that we come up with was that Mikey was already on a phone call at 12:23 PM by 12:23 PM he was already on a phone call.

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So I said, let's go back a little earlier in the footage and see if we can find when he actually maybe dials onto the phone. Maybe we can see him pick up the phone and begin a call before the shot takes off. Then after being that call, if we're following this logic, that would mean he puts his phone down until Charlie get shot and we were able to find what we think could be that moment. And I can tell you that it is one minute and 45 seconds approximately before that shot goes off. And we can watch that here

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Overall,

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I see Mikey's on his phone here and you're gonna see, pulls it up and he starts to cover his ear again. Now that could be unrelated again, we're taking a guess here. That's what made the most sense to us because we couldn't justify it in any other way. And I wanna be clear, we're not here to make assumptions, okay? And we wouldn't have to make any assumptions if turning point USA could just tell the truth. They could just be open and they could be honest about everything. Okay? I obviously went out to both Mikey McCoy and Andrew Cove for a statement. Asked those two questions. Hey, who were you on the phone with?

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What's going on here? No response. Weird because if that was me and I saw clips going viral and people were drawing conclusions from that clip thinking that I was already on the phone thinking that my reaction was weird, I would instantly hit back. I'd say, here's my, here's my call log. You wanna know who I was on the phone with nine one one? Obviously I was freaking out, freaking out. I I I called 9 1 1. I didn't know what I was doing. Here's my phone, here's my whole call call log for that day. This is, I don't know, I guess we live in a world where that doesn't make sense. I would've issued a statement to dispel any rumors.

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But they have not. Here's what I wanna say. And I'm, I honestly, I understand I'm preaching to the choir here. Everything about this is wrong. You know it and I know it. I actually know it better than most because I helped build that organization. And that's why I am almost the perfect person to discern what is normal and what is abnormal in terms of what happened at that college campus event. In fact, when I did my tribute to Charlie, this is unbelievable. Remember just after he died, I posted a video to my friend Charlie Kirk and I shared a clip of him at a college event and he and I were laughing and I'm gonna show you that clip in a second. And I said, I don't even know which college this is.

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And I showed the clip because I didn't know what college it was. And unbelievably it was UVUI kid you not let's rewatch that clip.

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If you aren't we wealthy white and male, Charlie Kirk is not your friend. What do you

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Think? Are you not my friend anymore?

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Are we not friends? Is that right? We're to find

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Out this, not gonna find out a sign outside of a thing in an event that we just did that you're not my friend.

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Go figure

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As unbelievable that of all the clips we picked that and I had no idea it was UVU. The point is that I hit college campuses with Charlie Kirk for six years. I don't believe that there was a single living, breathing person who has spoken at more college campuses alongside Charlie Kirk than me. So I knew that things were weird when I saw the first and foremost, the camera guy, the one who takes down the camera, seeing him lingering a alongside Charlie at the event flagged me as weird immediately. Okay? That's, that's why I reached out. When people saw him taking down the camera, I said, what is this? Why are you here? Literally, why are you standing next? I've never at any college event, ever in six years had that man standing next to me at an event, okay?

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Sometimes he wasn't even there. Other times, of course, when you are in av, your job is to be somewhere quiet. Your job is to have on like headphones to make sure the audio is good. Maybe the idea that they're miking the person running a company is miking you up is completely absurd. I didn't like it. It felt new to me. And you know what, when I called him, things got pretty weird. He acknowledged that a lot of new stuff was happening on that day. And I inquired to him immediately about the subtle changes that I recognized. And the thing that struck me as wrong was that he lied to me. I don't know why he was lying to me, but a lot of the things that he said didn't make sense.

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And I'm gonna speak more thoroughly about what it was that he said because obviously I recorded the phone call. I, I of course asked him why he took down the cameras so quickly. I asked him to first and foremost simply show me the footage. 'cause that's all I wanted to do. I'm thinking again, we're all gonna get the band back together and solve this murder. And he got weird. He got really weird. I said, I just wanna like see the footage so I can debunk. I know that you don't wanna put more footage out there that that's fine, but like to show me the footage so I can debunk these, all these internet conspiracies that you were hiding something. I was not suspicious of turning point at all. Actually, when I called and I asked him again like, what's the reason, what's the reason for taking down the cameras quickly?

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Why isn't the footage being released? Let me see it. And he told me that a, he had spoken only to Erica and the feds that he had regarding the footage. That is, he specifically told me that, as I said earlier, that he had secured that foot footage because he wanted to prevent Erica as I told you, from having to relive that moment. And that made entirely no sense to me. I told you guys, because we all can watch Charlie Kirk be murdered over and over and over and over and over again. So how are you sparing any emotions here by taking down the back footage? And then it made even less sense to me and appeared to me as a lie once I saw the footage on FaceTime, when I realized that there was no blood on Charlie.

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So it was the, it was the least traumatizing footage of all. Why be so secretive about it? He then told me that he needed to speak with Turning Point lawyers first to see about releasing the footage. I said, okay, fine. I let him take a couple days off. And then we got back on the phone and I said, look, that's kind of a BS excuse too, because you run your own company and the footage is owned by you. He then said, okay, yeah, I do own the footage. I just wanted, you know, just coordinate, check, whatever. Okay. Kind of a lie number two-ish. Then he said something that really bothered me. He said, I don't know how to send the footage. Like the file was too large. Oh, oh, I was born yesterday.

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So you run an entire AV company and you don't know how to send footage. I didn't smell right to me. I got even more bizarre. He told me, and this is when I was extremely uncomfortable, he said, after I offered, you can just use, we transfer. He said, I don't wanna just send the footage over the internet that's behind Charlie's head because I'm worried that Google might hack me. I swear on everything I love. That's what he told me. He was afraid that Google was going to hack him.

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So at this moment, I got a little bit, I looked at my team and I started snapping across the table and I was like, I, I said to them literally guilty of something. I don't know if this is weird. What a stupid lie. I mean, what do you mean? Just go? So I said to him, I said, let's just pretend that that does happen. For whatever reason, Sergio Brynn is sitting around and he's going, I wanna hack this person because I wanna see footage behind Charlie's head, does it, whatever. And then he gives the footage to Fox News, CNN and they play it. And what happens after that? I said to him, oh, I know what happens after we all get to see Charlie Kirk die from a different angle.

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We've seened die from a thousand different angles. Like what? What is actually changing? If Google hacks you Weird. A weird thing to say. I also asked him who he was on the phone with after Charlie got shot. And he told me, and I kid you not, he was on the phone with the ops that were back in Arizona watching. And I said, what ops? We don't have people back in Arizona watching when we do college campus events. Is that something new? He said, yes, it is new. In fact, this was the first time we were doing it. He said there were two people, two ops that were watching it back in Arizona. And he told me that the reason that they were doing it was because, you know, Candace, he said, Charlie, he was so ambitious and it wasn't fast enough that the, it was all being live streamed.

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He wanted people to live, cut the clips so that they could be the first people to get it on the internet. He didn't wanna, he, he's like not even a second to be wasted. So live streaming to everybody can watch. But they were racing some people to get the clips out faster than anybody else because Charlie's ambitious. Now I got a little suspicious and sensing he could sense that I was now growing increasingly suspicious with every random thing that he was saying. He sent me a video that I didn't ask for. I wanted to see the footage. He then sends me a video and I guess this was supposed to work as some sort of an alibi. I don't know if he thought that, I thought that he shot Charlie. I certainly did not think that he was involved in pulling a trigger and killing Charlie Kirk.

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I, I actually don't know why this video, I don't know what this video could have done that he sent me other than to make me feel even more uncomfortable because the video he sent me is quite shocking. It's also the reason that I knew that Tyler Boyer was lying when he tweeted that in this guy was commanded by the police to take down the cameras. He's lying because I have every minute of what this guy was doing, thanks to him having sent it to me, okay? Every minute of what he was doing before he took those cameras down. And there are only four minutes, by the way, before he takes those cameras down. So he's next to, and he's in front of Mikey McCoy when Charlie gets shot.

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Now, to his credit, he actually did see Charlie get shot. He saw like a split second, sees Charlie bleeding and runs and doesn't run very far. He just runs a couple of yards away. Now I should mention that the camera guy, he too, was also brought into the company by Tyler Boyer. Okay? And if you have worked with Charlie for this long, over a decade and you watch Charlie Kirk get shot, what do you do? What would you do? I'm asking you this question at home. What would you do? I say two things that we're are are pretty commonplace, right?

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You choose between fight or flight. You run towards him or you run away and you run away far because you don't know what's happening. Is it one shot? Are the multiple people? Are you being pursued? There's no way to process that. If you are going to be in flight, you should be sprinting and maybe calling 9 1 1. That's what I would've done if I wanted to run away and not towards Charlie to make sure he's okay. But this second close friend of Charlie chose to run just a few yards away up to a grassy knoll to take out his phone. Couple of seconds later he takes out his phone and he begins recording himself.

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It's a selfie video, takes a video of himself. So let's watch that video.

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They just shot Charlie, they just shot Charlie. They just shot Charlie, just shot Charlie.

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God help him.

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That's the first time it was announced actually that Charlie Kirk was dead. Kind of weird. Go ahead, catch your breath, hit rewind. Watch it again. Watch it over and over again like I did because you're probably thinking out loud, what the F did I just watch What's going on? What were Charlie's closest friends and allies and the people that were gonna carry on the torch doing, oh, picking up phone calls that they were already on and filming themselves and prematurely announcing when not a single person could have known.

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Charlie Kirk is dead less than a minute, declared dead, no instinct to run towards him, no instinct to run further away maybe because you gotta backtrack and go get the cameras a minute after this ends is when he goes and gets the cameras. Okay? Rather, let me record me and my reaction, which doesn't actually feel to me to be too distraught, okay? In fact, if I, this is one of those videos that made me so upset that I was like mad at other people. Do you know like I was like mad at Savannah. I saw Mikey McCoy's reaction.

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Now I'm looking at this guy's reaction. Like Savannah, like one of the homies. I get assassinated. You film yourself, I get assassinated. You're, you're talking about my succession plan a couple days later I get assassin. You're lying about little things about me. Everything turning Point is doing is wrong. And you know it's wrong. You know it's wrong. Deep down. And I wanna say this 'cause there has been a lot of reading in between Alliance, it's strange to me. I think I'm a very direct person. I say what I mean. And I do not want people to mistake what's happening right now or to wrongly assume my attention here. So allow me to be very explicit, okay?

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I want war with all of you, okay? All of you. And there's a reason I'm gonna get to that reason a little bit, but I want more with all of you. So write your articles, issue your statements, email the White House, reach out for comment, okay? Say whatever it is you wanna say about me. I want more with all of you because I know, I know this isn't right and there is no way you are going to convince me and the rest of the world that all of this is normal. We're not just gonna keep on going and jump into a succession plan. We're gonna figure out what the hell happened on September 10th first.

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Now it's time to share private messages. You know what's so funny to me is, I don't know, I feel like they are now steeped in psychology for toddlers. It's so obvious what's coming down the pipeline that thinks, oh, it's not appropriate to share private messages unless we do it, unless we do it, unless we're up on stage talking about private conversations and making stuff up. That definitely didn't happen. I mean, I think it was actually Pastor McCoy's speech. Charlie wanted me to lead the next movement. Charlie. Charlie told me, I'm America's pastor. He said, yeah, I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did. I'm sure he called you America's pastor. And so yeah, I will be doing whatever I want to do.

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Until the truth is told about what happened on nine 10. We should start with Josh Hammer, by the way, because he really has now become the king of defying no stereotypes where we last left off, obviously he is now infamous for just being such a deceitful little creature. The text message exchange. Josh Hammer caught hand in the cookie jar. I'm talking way in the cookie jar. No have other way to say it, right? Charlie gets killed. He on the same day starts pushing his book. Charlie's last words were by my book by Josh Yammer's book He the night before. Oh, he never even flinched on Israel. He loved Israel so much. And then I just waited 'cause we're fishing now.

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And I knew they would do this. I knew liars have to lie fast and first. And he did. He lied. He lied over and over and over again about his position on Israel. And when I got, when he got caught, you would think that he would have a shred of decency. You would think he would have a shred of humility. You would think he would apologize for lying about Charlie's position on Israel. But he didn't. He just sort of doubled down. He sort of Israel down, if you will. And it sort of gave me an idea for a little miniseries, a little recurring miniseries that we'll probably have on this show. An HBO miniseries, by the way, executively produced by me.

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I wanna show it to you guys now. It's a trailer that we put together. I, I sure hope you guys like it. Take a listen.

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How Charlie Kirk was actually feeling about the pressure he was receiving from pro-Israel Zionist donors to turning point USA Charlie

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Definitely was not someone who liked to be bullied by donors. As we saw in those text messages, they're

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Jewish donors to T-P-U-S-A played into the worst stereotypes of Jewish people.

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Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this

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A few moments later.

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You know, I'm, I'm talking to lawyers. I think I I I'm a lawyer with my background. I am clerk for Federal Appeals Judge. I know, I know a thing or two about United States constitutional law. I think that we have a, a potentially serious case here for defamation. And I'm very much speaking with lawyers and we'll see what happens.

4 (36m 3s):
Well done Joshie. Well done. Very good. Joshie, try your best to curb your Zionism a know it's hard. Do your best. Too funny. Also, I wanna shout out John Miller on X. He made me laugh. I mean, I was really laughing when I saw his tweet about Josh Hammer threatening to sue me. He just, he just wrote this and it said it all. He said, they really trying to make us believe this is the good guy. LMAO. Like, I mean, come on. Yeah, I mean, he just looks like a bond super villain. That's just what he looks like.

4 (36m 43s):
And by the way, that's, that's a lot of words to say. What I always say, like, we don't know. No, but we know And Josh Hammer, yeah, we know you're not the good guy. Okay? You gotta, you have to believe in your gut. I keep talking about you guys over and over again. Your gut matters more, right? Your subconscious picks up on things before your conscience does. Which brings me to dreams by the way. Because before I went on break, many people were triggered because I discussed on a previous show a dream that I had a very vivid dream where upon Charlie told me that he had been betrayed. And so he's been betrayed. That's it. That's, there's a lot I could say here. If I had known that me discussing my dreams was gonna trigger so many people, I would've started every other show like Martin Luther King Jr.

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I'm like, I had a dream, I had a dream, I had a dream. And like I said, this one was clear. Charlie told me that he was betrayed. He actually said more than that actually. But we're fishing, right? So let's be patient. What I want you guys to know about Charlie is he also used to dream very vividly because we traveled together so much. He would wake up, we would text and he would tell me about those vivid dreams. And we talked about a lot of things as you do when you get to know somebody. We talked about the spiritual realm. We talked about religion, our faith, most importantly, what our life's purpose was. And there was this period in April where Charlie kept insisting to me over and over again that he was going to die young.

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In fact, he told me at turning point USA was going to be the death of him. And I'm, I'm, I'm going to allow you to read his words. And it's funny how this came about because when I was in Wyoming, I went outside. I was writing like physically needed to write, to put pen to paper and to pray. And I was sitting in the sun overlooking the mountains. And right when I concluded my prayer, I opened my eyes and I saw a massive bald eagle. And it just made me feel at peace. It's one of those moments where you, you just are in nature. You see something beautiful and it makes you feel at peace. And then I felt the need to start going through messages and conversations between me and Charlie. And sure enough, I stumbled upon many messages of him telling me how he would die.

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And I'm going to show you some of those messages. Now, a particular set of messages that were written on April 6th, 2018, just a couple of weeks before Kanye tweeted. I love the way Candace Owens thinks, which is relevant because a lot of things changed after that tweet. And it's relevant because Charlie sensed that something big was about to happen. And I think that is what the, something big was. I also wanna say, obviously I'm not making up these messages. Okay, turning point, actually Mikey McCoy has access to all of Charlie Kirk's messages. They can tell you that these ones are real. Here is what, what he wrote. We were again talking about Kanye. Charlie wrote to me, you're going to be the Iron Lady of America.

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He had such a political vision for me. I never wanted that sort of a thing. I see it so freaking clearly. I might be Moses though. I might not see this whole thing through LMAO if that is the case, be my David. I said, dude, you haven't even realized your power yet. You're so young is what I was thinking. He said, if I tell you the true prophecy that I know in my gut, it's really sad, but I hope it's wrong. He went on to say, anyway, I am not sure if I will live to see the end of this revolution. I believe you were the peace that God meant me to meet that will finish the fight. Since the beginning of T-P-U-S-A. I knew in my gut that I might get wiped out at any time.

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I cannot explain it, but I dream about it all the time. Like all the time. Anyway, that's depressing. Combo for another time. Lma, LMAO. I said, that's weird. More of a fear manifestation than an actualization. He said, I'm not really afraid of it, but I'm just telling you what I know to be true. And he told me that. He told me that. I don't know why Charlie knew he was gonna die young. And I don't know, I just felt like I needed to share that because it is in part why the moment that Charlie got shot, I just knew was portrayed spiritually in the same way that Charlie knew that he was going to die young.

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I knew that this was a part of something bigger. And so I wanted to say to you guys, to the people that portrayed Charlie, I would recommend that you come clean. Okay? I would recommend that you come clean because Charlie said some other things. And I look at these things now and I think, wow, it's almost prophetic, right? It's almost prophecy. And I can tell you that this is a story that will have a happy ending, a tragedy that will have a happy ending. The world is going to learn the truth about this. They are, I would recommend that you come clean. There are lines in the sand that are being drawn right now between good and evil. Many of you have picked the evil side.

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Do you podcasters, people that make videos, people that are taking money, tell people don't look over there. I would recommend you stop doing that. You don't have to listen to me. You probably won't listen to me and to people that betray Charlie, you probably won't come clean likely because you're scared. Now you should be scared, but you're the wrong kind of scared, okay? Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. There is more. This is not it. I'm aware of that. That's why I've chosen to be on the side of goodness and truth. No matter what the cost is. I've picked my side. I don't care about any of you.

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I can't wait to read your articles after this. Okay? That's breakfast for me. That inspires me. Now. Can't wait to read your loony tweets. I can't wait for you to lie about things that I've said. I cannot wait. Because you know what? On a hike at Charlie and I were in Wyoming one time, we were discussing the death penalty. Like he was asking like, what's your position on the death penalty? And I told him, I've always been against it. And typically that's a, that's a theological conversation. Christians go back and forth on it. Do you have a right to take a life? I'm on the side that no, we don't have a right to take a life, but my position on it isn't even entirely theological. I said to Charlie, the reason I'm against it is because death is easy.

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You're here and then you're not. It's like falling asleep, right? You're here one second and then you're not. Think about passing out or fainting people that commit grave evil and we're giving them death. That's it. Yeah. I always say they deserve more than that. And for people that are involved, the many people that are involved in this, not the lone shooter at different stages, people that are involved, people that know things, that are watching this maybe in an office cubicle and know things. I want you to know that if you choose not to come clean, you are about to become very famous.

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Okay? I'm talking like through the ages Famous, the kind of fame that most people cannot even comprehend. Not even, I cannot comprehend that level of fame. Like I'm talking about the level of fame that can kill a name. You know what I mean? Like nobody names their kid Judas anymore. Nobody names their kid Adolf anymore. I'm talking about that level of fame, infamy. So I'd come clean. I think there's a way out for you if you come clean and you get with God. Anyways, I'd like to say something in finale to the many of you who would like to shut me up, who have been trying very hard to shut me up.

4 (44m 31s):
No, I, I think I'm gonna go ahead and be Charlie's David. I'm not gonna stop talking about Charlie Kirk's death. In fact, instead of trying to make me shut up, you should do something else. I think your time would be better spent trying to stop the sun from rising. You'd have more success if you spent your time trying to stop the sun from rising than trying to get me to shut up about who killed Charlie Kirk. 'cause he knew he was gonna die and he knew that I was gonna be the person that had the spine to stand up for him. What he didn't know, I don't think he knew, was that millions of people around the world maybe don't have a microphone, okay? Who maybe don't have a podcast who maybe can't write articles for the Daily Mail, are standing by him, are standing on the side of goodness.

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And we are going to see this thing out. And like I said, there will be justice, not the fake kind, not the Tyler Robinson kind, actual justice. We'll take a brief break here and then we'll get to some of your comments. Alright, you guys jumping in to tell you about the wellness company, because it is officially cold and flu season, which means that it's also flu shot season after everything that we've been through over the past five years. Number of people that are getting the flu shot is at a record low. Yay. Not to mention the fact that according to the CDCs own data, the flu shot is quote unquote, moderately effective at best. And that's not even accounting for the vaccine injuries. There is a much better way to stay healthy.

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While I'm hearing that Ian Carol is in the chat, Ian Carol, thank you. It should not be you and James Lee and Ryan Matta, who I didn't even know before this, who is not letting this go going day in and day. You guys didn't even know Charlie Kirk. It shouldn't be you. It shouldn't be you guys. It shouldn't be Zeeb Boykin doing ballistics It. I'm, I'm missing the name. We'll get to that later this week of the guy who went over the Google searches. It should not be all of these people, but I'm glad it is. I think the decentralization of it all is actually what makes this so powerful. Letting you guys know, by the way, getting to some co a couple of things. We did run out of the new Tumblr, but we restocked it so we don't, no, no.

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But we know we have that back up in stock. We just added that today. And finally, for those of you guys who pre-ordered the book, make Him a Sandwich is out. Why Real Women Don't need fake Feminism? It is so amazing to Hovas book. Also, I wanna tell you, they, they said, you know, you're supposed to go out when you do a book and ask people to write something nice about you. Like, yeah, this is amazing and I love her da da ian Carol or something. And I just thought it would be so much more fun to go on the internet and to look at all the comments that have been said by famous people about me. So we've got Cardi B who wrote a review. She said, I honestly feel sorry for you. It's just a review of my character over the years. Candace Owens is a fraud from Lance Bass Ireland. Baldwin wrote the most disgusting, hateful, cancerous human being I've ever come across.

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And that's amazing, considering Alec Baldwin is her father. Roseanne Barr wrote monster. If I see this B-I-T-C-H, I'll knock her the F out. Keeping it classy. Eminem wrote Dirt bag in a skirt. I don't even feel like I wear that many skirts. So that's impressive. Jojo Cwell, that's my favorite one. Candice and I do not f with each other. I would have you on my show anytime. I always tell you that. And I love that you look like you're a lot happier than you were a few years ago. Ben Shapiro notoriously on that table said, her fo sophistication has been ridiculous. So I'm keeping it fa sophisticated. And Chrissy Tegan wrote, go the F Away already. You dumb, soulless, pandering goal.

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Thank you, Chrissy. Thank you for all the people that supported this. You guys can go to make him a sandwich.com if you would like to support me. And this is an amazing book. I wrote every word of it. It's the first time that we took it out of a publishing house, which feels amazing because I think that's the future as well. Decentralization, publish your own books because the publishers also have a lot of power in changing history. And so I wanted to say that, getting into some of your comments here, Ian Carol wrote, writes, phishing takes time. You gotta set the bait. It's so good to have you back. Candace. Oh, I spent time setting a lot of bait. A lot of bait has been set. And we'll see. We'll see what we get. Amanda writes, this is sick. Thank you Candace, for always sharing the truth.

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God bless you. Thank you Amanda. Kiki Mack writes, Candace, thank you so much for helping remove the wolf from my eyes and bringing me back to church. Never stop fighting for truth. You are setting an amazing example for girls in the future. We love you, sister Christ is King. Thank you so much Kiki and I, I do think women are a big part of this. I think we were kind of the, and it gets into this in this book, but the feminist movement to know where that comes from. There's a chapter called Beyond the Pale, the Pale Settlement of Russia who brought over that feminist movement. It's good for you to know where that came from. 'cause I think we all were doing feminism. I was, when I was younger, like I'm a feminist thinking it was like girl Power, spice Girls. And it was never that, never ever that. Amal writes, I hate to be morbid, but God truly saved you by removing you from dw. I'm so grateful that you're in a most port by God almighty.

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And I think you, and almost dunno what that says. It was a dark time, but in hindsight, it's clearly what was happening. Amal, it actually, I think it all started with Kanye tweeting me. I think handlers were sent out to manage to first and foremost break apart me and Charlie, and then to manage us. And I'll speak more about that this week. But I, I spoke to my husband about it and I I, I see it so clearly now what happened? And those messages between me and Charlie leading up to that week that he tweeted us. It was actually Scott Adams says, who did a video that I'll never forget when that happened. And he said that like, like a ripped a hole for the universe, this tweet. And it was never supposed to happen. I'm gonna dig that up, find it, and speak more about what my experience was, where I, I do genuinely believe that handlers were sent out. And I got lucky that I had this overwhelming spiritual feeling that needed to go to the uk and I met my husband.

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I think I was actually saved by finding my husband, which was not accounted for. Joshua Steve's rights. Tyler Robinson appearing in court today via Zoom without having to show his face. Shirley isn't helping any of the theories out there. It's good to have you back. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, come on. They're like, it's like nine on a booboo at this point. But don't worry. I'm sure no one at Turning Point will think that's weird. They're just like, it's open, it's closed. And we're so happy that that one lone shooter who got Charlie is being caught. These people just have no shame. Nobody here has any shame. And that's, that's a, a problem. Ivana Milano writes, keep up the great work. Stand by your friend reminding us that this isn't just a personal struggle, but a spiritual war.

4 (54m 51s):
Yes, it is. In a world where money and greed are taking over people's lives. Thank you for helping us to stay grounded in God's truth. Yes, it is worth losing money as I did. It is worth losing fake friends, as I did to stand up for the truth. And I'm just ready for war with these people, like all of it. Band together, you know, send your best warriors. 'cause all they ever do is lie and smear and delude and take away and de platform and you're not winning anymore. And something that I wanna say that is also so amazing is I didn't have to fight hard this time for people to believe me. And I don't know, I just know that somewhere Charlie, Charlie's energy, they tried to almost like capture it very quickly.

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The one thing they can't do, right, they can't create, they aren't the life force. These people are not the life force. They can only steal. They can threaten, they can pressure, but they can't create it. And I feel now, as I was reflecting on things that they all were trying to bottle up Charlie's energy and Charlie sent his energy where it needed to be. I barely defended myself as they came out, attacked, lied. She didn't even speak to him since 2017. She didn't know Charlie, she hasn't seen him. They just lied and lied and lied and lied. And nobody from Turning Point defended me and said like, that's a lie. And what she's saying is true. And the public not for a single second, didn't take it.

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The amount of money that was spent on telling those lies. And I barely had to defend myself. And you guys knew that I was telling the truth. And I think that that's incredible. That that it, it truly is a testament to God and is a testament to truth. And as Ian Carol said when I had him on my show, the truth does need to be repeated over and over again. It's the power of the, of the frequency of truth, right? It takes a lot of little lies. It's why the lie demands the truth shuts up. It's the reason they pass speech laws. They need people to be quiet. Because when you start PE speaking the truth, it becomes more powerful. I truly believe that. And I'm, I'm calling upon everyone to do that more often. Like just speak the truth. Even if you're fearful of the consequence. Because the bigger consequence is not being right with God when you pass.

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Tim Morgan writes Where the investigation for Charlie, we love you. God bless. Thank you so much. Caitlyn writes, my brother Hm, passed away in 2021. He often spoke about how he knew he was not going to live past 40 years. He was saying this when he was in his twenties and he was 41. Yeah, Charlie said a lot more. He said a lot more. And I'm gonna keep it close because I do think a part of it was prophecy. Now I really do believe that and I'm gonna see this thing to the end. David Foster wrote, I didn't even know Charlie and I was more shook up seeing the footage than the camera guy seemed in a selfie video. He wasn't even shaking. My hands were shaking and I was at home. It just does not add up.

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It doesn't add up. And we've gotta stop accepting this excuse of like, well, what would you do? I do know what I would do. Okay, in your situation, you either run a far and you don't record yourself, right? Or you go run towards your friend and you help. In fact, the only person, as Ian Carol pointed out in one of his videos, and you should sign up for, subscribe for Ian Carroll's channel as well. He pointed out that like the only person who was acting right and was Frank Turk, like the first thing you do is get down, right? Because you don't know if there's gonna be another shot. How was Mikey McCoy confident enough to stay standing and walking? Nobody knows. You don't know where the shot's coming from. You don't see him get shot. The first thing you would do is drop to the ground.

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That's like the first normal thing to do is to get low, get, make sure you are safe. And then Frank Tur kind of crawls back towards Charlie and then tries to like see him to the car. Like all of that feels normal to me, okay? And they're always trying to make us see things through the exception. Well, there was this one time at Band camp, or rather exceptionally, someone fired shots and someone was just really calm and walking away. And I'm like, yeah, I've seen men in black. That's not the person you should trust in this scenario is all I'm saying. Buy-in rights. Come back, Candace. Everyone needs welcome back, Candace. Pardon? Everyone needs a friend like you who would fight with such fire for justice.

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I'm so glad you were on the case. I can see that you would reveal the truth for us. We don't know. No, but we know as we become my favorite phrase. Look, Charlie didn't know no, that he was gonna die young from the moment that he started turning point, as he said, what he knew and he was right. So go with your gut. Believe in your dreams, right? And when people try to mock you and tell you not to listen to them, not trust your gut, know that those people are working for the devil, literally, okay? They want you to think that this life is it and this life is not it. So get right with God and tell the truth. And we'll see you guys tomorrow.

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10/9/25

REVELATIONS: The Truth About Charlie's Medical Report | Candace Ep 251




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All right you guys. Happy Thursday last show until I take a much needed break and it's gonna be a good one. As always, as we continue this investigation, we are definitively getting closer. So what do we recall? Well, we were told that Charlie just had healthy bones. That it was a miracle that the gun did not take his neck out and that his spine somehow stopped it. I can now officially debunk that Marvel storyline and therefore we focus our investigation on what actually happened on nine 10 because I have new information and I'm presenting it to the public today. Plus, later on the show, Josh Hammer has emerged. You know, he's the one that thinks that all white men, all white European men are anti-Semitic.

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While he is now releasing text messages between him and Charlie that literally prove absolutely nothing other than that Josh Hammer is a dummy and didn't realize that the text messages make his storyline somehow even less Credulous. Good news is that he at least didn't plug his book. Welcome back to Candace. All right you guys. Where to begin? Obviously we have a lot to unpack before I go on vacation.

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I'm looking forward to reading. I'm also looking forward to processing a lot of the information that is coming to me and researching more. The place that we should start on today's show is with, well, I first and foremost have to tell you right at the top. I can't tell you exactly who the information came from or which parties were involved in giving me this information 'cause I don't wanna get anybody in trouble. But I can say that I have positively verified something about the injury that Charlie sustained to his neck that I think is going to go a very long way in terms of helping those of us who have been sleuthing, those of us who want answers, those of us who are dedicating our time to this because what we are being told by the authorities beggar's belief as John Andrina Mappin said, it just simply beggar's belief.

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We also want to make sure that we are presenting evidence and debunking one another where we can so that all of us can collectively zero in and build upon whatever facts we have in this decentralized investigation. This is about the injury. Okay, so Andrew Covet was, I can tell you, telling the truth in part when he wrote that very long tweet in which he tried to explain why there was no exit wound. Do you recall this? Long story short, he said, I'm gonna read it. I wanna address some of the things that the lack of an exit wound about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie. I'm usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize that this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn't an exit wound is probably another miracle.

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And I want people to know, I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital. He said the bullet absolutely should have gone through, which is very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I've seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down an elk, et cetera, but it didn't go through. Charlie's body stopped it. I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff students and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent and he replied it was an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed. His bone was so healthy and the density was so, so impressive that he's like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through it.

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Likely would've killed those standing behind him too. In the end, the coroner did find the bullet just beneath the skin. Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him. Remarkable, miraculous. Now keep that up for just a second because it's really around here. His bone was so healthy and the density was so, so impressive that he's like the man of steel that we just went, mm, something's not right. Something's not right. A lot of stuff's not right. I, I just dunno why a surgeon would be saying something that actually only the medical examiner, somebody that specializes in forensics could really contribute. Yes, a surgeon can tell you or actually any person with common sense can tell you that your bone density is better when you're younger.

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But this seemed a little bit too performative. Now I can tell you the part that he is telling the truth about is that Charlie's neck indeed did stop the bullet without question. Okay? And this is going to dispel a lot of theories that are out there and I'm telling you this 100% Charlie Kirk was shot from the front and the bullet did not exit and at least a fragment of the bullet was recovered from his neck. And I'm going to tell you exactly where it was recovered from. I have fact checked this information from multiple sources. Now I've actually been sitting on this for a little bit over a week right around here.

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So think about almost in line with your shoulder blade right in the center. Now why is that helpful? Because it gives us a bullet trajectory, okay? Went in here where you saw that and it was stopped and a fragment was pulled from I think, right? If you're just touching your spine in line with your shoulder blade, that leads us obviously to the part that he's maybe not being forthcoming about. They did not recover a bullet from a 30 odd six. They didn't recover a bullet from a 30 odd six just didn't happen. Okay? They had found a 30 odd six bullet Charlie's death certificate certainly would have reflected that in suicide.

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In suicide situations. That's just one example. Medical examiners, feel free to chime in. I've spoken to quite a few, but when the gun and the bullet are known, they are reflected onto the death certificate. Okay? There is not one reflected onto Charlie Kirk's death certificate because they did not recover a bullet from a 30 odd six hunters and military men. Rejoice. It turns out that common sense still rules the roost. Okay? You guys were right. You are absolutely right And this is why I hate politics because it requires us to submit to the idea that we were all somehow born yesterday.

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That it really can just, life really can just be a Marvel comic with people that are, I guess a DC comic where there are men of steel that are able because they're young to stop 3000 pounds of energy that is coming at them. That didn't happen. So where does that leave us guys? Well the part that is now extraordinarily suspicious is that Andrew is claiming that he had a conversation with the surgeon who offered up the idea that it really was just your modern Christian miracle and Charlie was just young and his bones had a lot of density which made him stronger somehow than a Cape Buffalo, enough pushups and asparagus and you too can stop 3000 pounds of energy coming at you.

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What are we gonna make of that? What are we to make of the fact that Charlie did not do that? Actually it means that he was shot with a completely different kind of gun, obviously, okay? The kind where this would make sense that it didn't cut through him. The kind where it would make sense that outside of an artery effectively exploding from the front, there was, you know, his neck didn't explode, which that particular weapon that they were trying to tell us Charlie was killed with would've gone through about seven necks. Okay?

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You'll recall that throughout all of this or during this mayhem rather, there were people who were insisting by the way that were on the ground, the witnesses that were insisting that they heard multiple shots. It's another element of this, but those individuals were not the ones that were awarded with mainstream media interviews. In fact, one guy in this kind of went viral at the time, even got pushed, physically pushed and was not given the ability to speak at all. They shut him up. It looked if we were just examining the situation, it certainly looked like turning point, turning point employees or staff or students thugged him so that he wouldn't say what he thought happened.

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Let's take a a listen to that clip that has gone viral.

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I was standing from probably the third row in the bottom. I saw hi, I heard the shot ring out, I looked to my left and then I looked over to my right. I saw him slump over in his chair forward he slumped over, he had blood coming from the left side of his neck down his shirt and he slumped over and he was carried off. Step. We're

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Not doing Get off me, off me. Motions are running high right now.

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Certainly emotions were running high. He was just trying to speak and to say what he saw. And interestingly though, if you think through what he said there, he said, I was in the third row right and a shot rang out and I looked to my left and I looked to my right. Now we're not specific on where exactly he was standing, but if a shot, a high powered rifle came from 250 yards behind you, you'd probably look back first, right? Like common sense. If you heard the sound coming from behind you, you would look back probably even before your brain came online. Your instinct would be to duck into, into make sure that you're not going to get hit by something that's coming from behind you.

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Now to clarify immediately here and to again debunk some other internet conspiracy theories that is not Andrew Colette in that video a lot of people were like, is this Andrew Cove from Turning Point USA hiding under a hat? It is not true. I spoke to Andrew on this actual day. He definitively flew in to Utah after the shooting took place. He was not on therefore on the ground, but the person that is in that video, as soon as I just put up a picture and I said, I'd like to identify this person, his friend first lets a nasty comment like why are you trying to look out for this guy? He did the right thing. How dare we ask questions like how dare we try to get testimony from anybody else? That day kind of then messages me privately.

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'cause I reached out and I'm like, I'm just trying to confirm the story. And I reached out and he says, he says to me, well, and I'm paraphrasing here, he doesn't wanna speak to you, he doesn't wanna speak to media because he's been instructed not to speak to media because he's gotten the turning point chapter into trouble before for speaking out in the media and he just doesn't wanna do that. And I said, that seems very strange to me. What are you, what are you saying to me? You have A-A-T-P-U-S-A person who, who can't speak out about things. There were tons of people that were talking about their testimonies. It's very odd in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, you're telling me that Turning Point USA what sent on a text and said nobody speak to the media.

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That's what, that was his excuse by the way, for why he shut that guy up. People were saying, oh you know, they're not allowed to speak to the media. So they were just doing what they were told. Well then it's kind of interesting, you should know that I then determined that the person doing the shoving is first and foremost not a turning point. USA employee, he's first, he's, he's beyond that not a student at UVU. He is not a turning point USA students. Therefore either he was actually brought in as a volunteer, which I found to be quite strange. Like look, I've done a lot of campus stops and typically it's the chapter of that school that does everything.

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It's, it's the chapter that handles everything now, bigger events, they certainly work with other organizations and it's, it's possible, I guess it registered to me as odd that a volunteer would have the courage to shut down a kid that's speaking in that way, in that aggressive manner. I would imagine Turning Point would tell their volunteers not to get physical with students on campus. But what do I know? I just have common sense. Now how do I know that he is not a turning point USA employee and he is not a UVU or turning point USA student. Well, because despite him stopping a college kid from speaking about what he heard, that young man whose name is Cooper, and I'm very comfortable telling you this because, well, he went on Fox News that very night to provide eyewitness testimony to exactly what he heard and what he saw because apparently he was the person that was holding the mic when the shot rang out.

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Take a listen to what he told Jesse Waters on the night of

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Cooper Brown was an event volunteer who was just feet away from Charlie when he got shot. Cooper. What happened?

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Yeah, so this requires a little bit of, of background knowledge, but so I work for an organization called Leadership Institute. And what we do is we work hand in hand with all the different conservative coalition groups on college campuses. So the young Americans for Liberty, the the Students for Life and the Turning Point USAs. And so at Utah Valley, we had been really, really excited to be able to host Charlie Kirk this this semester. And we had spent weeks and weeks and weeks getting volunteers advertising for this event and just so excited to be able to host Charlie Kirk at this university.

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And then unfortunately it had to end in, in absolute tragedy.

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So I'm trying to get in touch with this individual. Once I realized that not only did he speak the night of, he also spoke on Fox News the very next day, which would mean what did Turning point USA, I don't know the answer to this. I'm asking genuinely did they say speak to this person who's not actually A-T-P-U-S-A student. But he was there. I, I don't know how this works, but the next day, sure enough, he appeared on Fox News again and I'm not sure if we had that clip Skylar, but if we do, let's roll it.

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That day of we had 30 or so student volunteers that were designated roles that were gonna be helping pass out Turning point USA merchandise and getting people signed up for the event. And my responsibility was when the event actually started to help manage just the microphone. So something simple as just raising it and lowering it, making sure students were able to speak into it clearly. And I thought this was a fantastic opportunity to be up really, really close to be able to witness all the, the amazing dialogue, the, that what's gonna be happening on campus.

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Couple of things about Cooper Brown, that to me is a bit of a mystery at this moment. First and foremost, you provide witness testimony, you start doing the rounds on Fox News, you are fair game, okay, I'm gonna start asking questions because I need to know everything. Everything's gotta fit neatly into my timeline. So in trying to reach out to him and, and in publicly posting, hey, I'm trying to identify this individual, I received a ton of emails. One email said, Hey, I'm actually his cousin and here is his number. Now I noticed that that cousin happens to live in Phoenix, Arizona. So I went and just checked some profiles on social media. I found some browns, but they were all living in Phoenix, Arizona. Okay, maybe this person's from Phoenix, Arizona.

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Well actually when I went through what he has as his resume on the, on this website where he says that he works with this institute, I could in fact check any of the things. Went to school a minor, a very small college in New Hampshire. I'm from the northeast. If you're gonna school in New Hampshire, especially not the University of New Hampshire, you can go ahead and bet that you're gonna be a local. So I'm looking for a kid that's from New Hampshire to go to this tiny school. I found someone from that name with his name, but it was actually a girl that had that name and graduated in the year of, he says that he graduated in, he doesn't look to me like he just graduated college, but according to his resume he did.

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And the number that she gives me, which is the first thing that registers me registers to me as odd is it's a Utah, I mean I, I mean, sorry, it's a, it's it's a Phoenix based number. So I'm going, who is this person and why is it linking that number to somebody else who is 32 years old and has that same last name? I don't know. I intend to get those answers. But there's something here that strikes me as a little bit odd, especially given the fact that as a volunteer, as he expresses there, they decided to allow him to hold the microphone. That's supposed to be like kind of an honor at Utah events turning point USA kids work really hard to put these events on. They decide he's gonna hold the microphone. They went with a volunteer. I don't know but I'm gonna find out.

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Okay, I don't know what I'm going to find out. So if you went to the Southern New Hampshire University with this Cooper Brown and you majored with him in politics and you can provide some insight, I'd like to hear from you. I am again asking these questions publicly 'cause we are getting no answers from Turning point USA or the Feds or anything that makes any practical sense in this scenario. Why was everything so brand new on this day? Now for those of you that are still caught up in what I just told you, which is that for a fact, Charlie was shot from the front. So we know the bullet trajectory. There's no, there's no games here. There's no magic bullets.

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It's a smaller weapon. Okay? Your ears didn't betray you, my ears didn't betray me. We definitely did hear a very recognizable sound of a rifle shot, but I'm telling you that Charlie wasn't hit with that rifle and there is not a medical examiner's report or a death certificate which will stipulate otherwise it doesn't exist. So what exactly are the Feds building their case on vibes or sheer corruption? 'cause I'm, I'm thinking it might be the latter and who would be the person that can make that fit? Look, I did receive a tip and guess what? There was another person in this never ending brand new cast of characters that was also involved in this story.

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And this person in an email insisted to me that this is somebody that we should look further into. That's the medical examiner. It is a woman named Dr. Deidre Weiss Amma. Deidre Weiss Amro is her name. And she blew in from California. She was announced as the new state medical examiner in May of 2024, I'm sorry, from Missouri. I think she also worked at some point in California and she was announced as the new Utah Medical Examiner State Utah Mag Medical Examiner in May of 2024. So I'm interested in learning as much as I can about this medical examiner.

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I'd like to know more about this medical examiner and if you've got something, you know this her personally got a story, please do send it to us at more tips@candaceowens.com. Now it is possible given what we know about Fed type operations and what we know about the JFK shooting, which we are still not allowed to tell the truth about, but we all know what the truth is. That there are often decoys, even decoy sounds, that it is totally plausible that there were multiple people there that day who found out maybe even in the fine hour, which of last hour, which one of 'em is going to take the shot, right?

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It is likely that a rifle was fired to muffle the sound of a smaller gun, which maybe actually kind of had to, if we're considering the trajectory that I'm telling you here to here kind of had to come from the front of Charlie. And I will say that that is now my well-informed opinion, well-informed opinion that we are looking for a person that was a lot closer to Charlie and likely in the audience. And that goes a long way by the way, in terms of trying to explain why they may be hiding the footage from behind Charlie's head.

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Maybe that is the reason that that footage was so crucial, first and foremost. Another tons of other cameras that one gets grabbed first. It seems to me that there's a lot of hiding and there's definitively a lot of lying that's going on. I told you Tyler Boyer lied. He just lied. The person who took the cameras down was absolutely not instructed to do so by law enforcement. It just wasn't. Okay. So why say that also, why grab the one behind his head first all the cameras? Why that one? First and foremost, and when I actually think about the clip that I was shown, it was more to the right.

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I actually feel that there is this remarkable blind spot on the left of Charlie, which is why I was asking if anybody had footage, not footage if you're sitting there and taking footage this way. But if you are Charlie, I want to see what he would have seen looking slightly to his left. By the way, despite the fact that we had this amazing cast of characters, all these Caldera engineer engineering connected people who made it to the mainstream media to talk about what they heard. There was actually one eyewitness there who could not be shoved out of the way and was able to make his way onto Fox News immediately after to provide a description of where he believed the shot came from.

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And that's Jason Chavet, right? Jason Chavet is a former politician and a Fox News contributor who was a witness to this event because he's from Utah. He attended this event. He apparently was in communication with Charlie ahead of the event. And I have to say that of everyone that day, he's maybe the one of the few people that I would say on the mainstream media that seemed genuinely shaken by the event he went live was speaking through what he saw, what he heard, what he was expecting. And he was rebutting 'cause he was on a couple of shows rebutting the idea that the shot was from far away. That's very interesting to consider. You got a bunch of kids who are trying to speak and they're getting censored and you have a bunch of people that are giving a platform and they seem weird, right?

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Tiffany Barker on Good Morning America vibes were weird there, okay? Not assigning any necessarily badness to her but didn't feel right. Jason Chabot. However, genuinely when I looked at the footage, he seemed shaken by the event. And let's hear where Jason Chabot says he believes the shot came from Take a listen,

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Being there, seeing it within proximity. It seemed like it was a close shot. The venue is such that there's a four story building, which is the administrative building to the south. The other buildings around the side are not quite so high, but you could be on the second level and watch Charlie. The police had moved the people. There were some people that were above Charlie. So that awning that you're seeing there, there's a place to be there, but the police moved people out to the sides and so you couldn't be right above where you were at. But if I had to guess, and again, it's still raw, but if I had to guess and give a police statement right here, right now today see without water is it looked to me like it was in great in close proximity straight ahead, right in that area.

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Yeah, we're looking at it If if I had to guess again,

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Quite interesting and then elsewhere when he's on Fox News and people are saying the shot was from like the Lowey building, he doesn't believe that. He doesn't believe that. By the way, Jason, Jason Chavitz, he's been honest about his background. His parents are in the government, they're literally in the FBI. So he's telling you that shot was closer. So what gives also, why is everybody telling lies? I wanna be very clear. It's possible that people at turning point are simply terrified. That's definitely a possibility here. They are very much aware of what these people are capable of and maybe they're just trying to get by and they're being told what to say and what to do and they wanna keep the peace.

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But here's what I think may have happened. I think that accidentally, I accidentally ruined the Fed narrative. I think the plan was to never allow the back footage of Charlie to see a light of day, to never was allowed to see a light of day that way. They were going to say that they recovered a 36 bullet, right? Instantly we recovered a 36 bullet. They were maybe when they were digging stuff up and there it was and it went through as we wouldn't have known, we would've been none the wiser, right? No one else is telling us anything or showing us anything. And I think they were going to say, or the other option, like it completely took his neck out it. We wouldn't have been any wiser.

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But then I watched it and the thing that jumped out at me was that not only did the bullet not pierce through that there wasn't a single dot of blood on Charlie's bleach white shirt until he falls out of frame and onto the ground. I think we accidentally ruined what they were going to try to do to frame this. I think they wanted this to be a 30 odd six narrative and now they're gonna have a lot of difficulty getting that through a courtroom. It panicked. They tried to explain it away. They're saying that it's a miracle. I don't think it is. It obviously was not a miracle. I think it is likely that what we should be looking for are two people that had weapons that day.

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Somebody that was in the audience, somebody that was elsewhere with a rifle. That explains also why, by the way, when I take a look, there's so many adults, there's no, there's no UVU kids that were in the mainstream media. Cooper's not even a UVU kid, he's not A-T-P-U-S kid. Why were they not able to find UVU students to say what it is that they heard and what they saw that day. And what's really interesting is I told you guys already about Nick who has been assisting me on the ground and one of the first things he said to me was that I felt like they were coming around, the feds were coming around and they were trying to implant memories into our heads.

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So he was like, I felt like there were these people walking around that we didn't recognize. And they were like, you heard one shot, you heard, we heard one shot, we heard one shot. And he's like, no, that sounds weird and conspiratorial, but it seems like they were trying to make us believe that this is what we heard. And it's interesting also because remember Phil, when Phil Lyman gave us his footage and he walks outside of that building, the two now infamous goth girls who were not goth at all and they're just wearing black. They say that they heard two shots. They never made it to Fox News. They never made it to the mainstream media. But they too also said that they heard two shots. Take a listen.

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You see where that came from? It was right here, wasn't it?

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It was like over

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Here. Yeah.

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What can I say guys? I, I think it's pretty obvious that our instincts about this have been correct from the very beginning. We probably need to be now looking for a shooter that was in the audience and to the left. I've seen you guys, I saw some guy on Alex Jones that created like, he created a whole web and explained and and did this all on a computer of what, where the trajectory would have to go. We need you again. Ballistic YouTubers, gun people, gun enthusiasts, military men, the people that they're discounting and saying, you have no right to get clicks. No, please get clicks. Explain to us what it is that you know in this decentralized intelligent agency given the information that I am telling you, okay, that it had it.

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Unless we have a bullet that's doing the worm like a WWE wrestler, okay? Bullets fire straight. And this one went straight into the front, left lower side of his neck, essentially exploded his artery and did not exit outta the back. But that is where a bullet fragment was found. So map it out for us. There's something else that I would like to point to that is getting interesting and that is regarding Caldera engineering. Caldera engineering. Now I said from the very beginning that this company was shady. It flagged me as weird. All I was trying to do at that point was not looking to Caldera engineering, but rather to track down the footage.

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Irwin Steel, this steel, so many steels were involved. It turns out the steels are big with Caldera engineering and things aren't adding up with this company, okay? It's just not adding up with this company. And I can tell you I've were, I was receiving information from people who work with valves who have been in the industry for 30 years that live nearby. And so I have never heard of Cloudera Engineering. That's not normal. I've never heard of them, I've never worked with 'em, I've never received any of their valves. Something's not right here, right? I knew something wasn't right. But you can't just always go off of just, we know something's not right. We have to figure out what exactly it is that is incorrect here.

0 (30m 16s):
Then I, I also decided to prod the narrative further. Another person gave us a tip and said, Hey, did you know that there's literally someone who works at Caldera Engineering who was a professional actor, like no background engineering, went to school for theater, worked in theater was in place, was involved in place. I looked through everything, went through it. I'm like, this doesn't make sense. Why is he suddenly at Caldera Engineering? Like not later in life, just like randomly on his resumes. Caldera engineering. Why are they hiring gay actors? I don't know. I don't dunno the answer to that. I'm telling you guys what are the things that I have stumbled upon?

0 (30m 58s):
Then somebody emailed us and this was strange. We have not been able to corroborate this. We can tell you the link was real and that the the, but we don't know if the internet was scraping and got things incorrect. But there was an Israeli individual who was listed as the founder of Caldera Engineering. We obviously know that Caldera Engineering had said that they did projects according to their website in Israel. I don't know what projects they worked on. We weren't able to corroborate currently that that in individual is still working with the company. We don't know if this was accidental. Sometimes the internet can do some funny things and scrape and put information where it doesn't belong.

0 (31m 38s):
This particular individual has a very long background in engineering in Israel. Maybe it's 'cause they work together and that's the internet thought that this person was the founder and the individual was not. But it's peaking our interest. Now we are our confused, I would say at best about this company because when we wanted to go back and just determine who the founders were, well just our bad luck company was established in 1997. So you won't be able to get those formation LLC docs. You can find LLC docs in general, but they didn't start digitizing those until the early two thousands. So you're not gonna get anything where you're going to be able to see the actual formation docs.

0 (32m 22s):
You can see changes they made in the early two thousands. You can see who the manager or the president, all that stuff we found. But I would love to find those base formation docs. And in order to get them, you have to go in person somewhere. And I'm certain I'm not gonna be able to get my hands on that. Something else that was really interesting as I was looking into Caldera engineering was that they opted to, in their very early years of their company, use a lawyer for trademark purposes down in Arizona, right? And I'm looking at this, these early documents and I'm like, wait a second. I know this lawyer, this lawyer was introduced to me by Tyler Boyer at Turning Point USA.

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I have worked with this lawyer. I've paid this lawyer. This is crazy. So what is, what is the pipeline between Utah and Phoenix? I don't know. You can, you can use a lawyer anywhere, but when, usually when you're formulating your company, maybe it was a friend, I don't know. But I now have a ton of questions about Caldera engineering. So if you have any information, you're able to find anything about them. Or maybe you are an engineer and you're like, I've been buying their valves actually for 20 years actually. And they're fantastic. They work great. I'd like to hear from you again, more tips@candaceowens.com. All right you guys, I'm going to throw it to some sponsors.

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0 (36m 50s):
All right, A couple of updates for you. We are, we're getting all of your emails and I wanna tell you we're working on everything. Okay? I, it's like an investigation that never stops. It's just trains that are slowly moving as we get answers. And like I said, even that I've been sitting on for a while, I'm waiting for people to react, see what people say, because I need to know who's guilty of what I don't know, but I need to watch people lie. Now, one area of conversation that I haven't said much about, but I want you to know we are still working on it, are the two planes that day, right? The one of them being the plane that people have recognized is, is military. That's tail number N 1 0 9 8 L.

0 (37m 31s):
So this plane left from Texas, went over to Utah, right about the time that Charlie got assassinated, it dipped real low it seemed like. Who knows what this plane was being sent there for, but the fact that this had some, this plane had been used in the military rightfully alerted people to the fact that they may have had some knowledge. This plane may have had some knowledge of what was going to occur. But one thing I wanna clarify for you is that that plane was being contracted. You guys noticed that it was owned by Laci Aviation, LLC. We are awaiting more information, but I just wanted to let you know that you recognize that it is strange.

0 (38m 11s):
It did happen. There's no question I've been saying from the beginning, this was a military operation. It's very obvious the more you peel back the onion, it is very obvious that this was a military operation. So it's fitting that you would have a plane that the military certainly uses who would contract that sort of plane. Now, this is a, would be a very easy question for Kash Patel to answer, Hey, cash Patel most transparent ever, except when it comes to Epstein, what's up with this plane? Cer, certainly you have knowledge of who contracted this plane. The answer, if you're being transparent, is gonna be like, oh, just a coincidence.

0 (38m 51s):
You know, just a coincidence, somebody decided to take a vacation flight from Texas over Utah to do a little circle and return back home. It happens all the time. You know when you're bored and you just have an unbelievable amount of money, that's what you do. We're not gonna get those answers from Cash Patel about that plane. We're not even getting straight answers about the other plane. That's the plane where Derek Maxfield, his wife, Shalane Maxfield, they sold some beauty company for Billions, I believe, and they now just run a human sex trafficking organization in Utah. That was that plane. I can't remember. 8, 8, 8 is what I actually remember. And it seemed as though that plane left.

0 (39m 34s):
It went to Page Arizona and it appeared that the A DSB transponder turned off. Now, what Cash Patel told us is different from what Derek Maxfield told us. Derek Derek Maxfield on Instagram clarified that the Air Traffic control center was in agreement with them, that they could stop Transp responding Cash. Patel says that plane never stopped, transp responding. So I don't know what the truth is, and I'm not even pretending that we're ever gonna get the truth. What I can tell you is that the investigation that we have been privately conducting has led to more questions than answers.

0 (40m 15s):
Obviously multiple pilots, people that work at these airports, people who are invested in this story have reached out and I am grateful for that. Multiple people have confirmed that this plane was a little bit weird that day. It was supposed to land in page Arizona. It in millionaire FBO last second, it made a change. Just so you guys know, an FBO is just a private terminal. So you if, if you're in a public airport, you go to Terminal seven. If you're flying private, you go to FBO and it has a name. So that plane was supposed to land into an FBO called millionaire last second. I mean, and I mean last second, that plane decided to change and say, we are going to instead land into signature a different FBO.

0 (41m 3s):
Apparently it landed into signature. That's what we were, that's certainly what we were told. But there's something off about that because when people are trying to look into it, somebody at that FBO at first said, oh yes, you've made multiple trips in the last couple of days. And then that person said, I don't know what you're talking about. No plane ever, ever landed here. What multiple people have confirmed this for me that there, there's something very unusual about this flight. They're guarding information about this flight that doesn't make sense to me. I don't like that. We've got feds guarding like FBO information. We've got feds guarding dairy Queens. I don't know.

0 (41m 43s):
I don't know. Do you need your ice cream guarded? What is going on? Like guys, you, you gotta just give up. It's, it's gonna come out. Whatever it's is gonna come out, there's, you would have to, and I wouldn't put it past you, you'd have to get rid of all of us. You've got like 7 billion people. You've gotta ethnically cleanse right now. If you want us to just forget about the Charlie Kirk story, it's, no one's forgetting it, okay? No, not the ballistic ski on YouTube that we're all listening to and no one's, no one's gonna let this one go because, and by the way, that's your fault. I don't know whose sadistic idea it was to make this a public execution, but let me tell you where you made the mistake.

0 (42m 27s):
Okay? In 1963 when JFK was shot, people didn't watch it on TikTok. People mostly read about it and then the feds lied about it and they heard about it. But to be able to have us watch that live around the world, you traumatized all of us and not in the way that you meant to. You meant to traumatize us and maybe then make us fearful and scared and yeah, that happened. Then you made us really angry that corruption is allowed to, to be like this just so blatant and so in our face, looking at us as if we're nothing and what are you going to do about it?

0 (43m 9s):
That's the attitude. What are you gonna do about it? You wanted to traumatize us and then to on a dime flip and look us in the face and go, how dare you ask questions. People are grieving. Yeah, we're grieving because you assassinated Charlie Kirk in front of the entire world. If you had pretended he slipped and fell on some ice in the winter, maybe you wouldn't have this response, but you got our attention because you went after our attention. You wanted this for whatever sadistic reason. You wanted this to be a public execution. And that disturbs me. So you get what you get, okay? This is the internet generation.

0 (43m 50s):
You get talkers that are asking questions. You get our military guys, you get our ballistic boys, you get the TikTok, medium psychic ladies, you get everybody. All of us are here, okay? It's, it's like a high school class. You got all different types of characters here, but we're running this, okay? We're running this and we're not gonna be nice to any substitute teachers that you try to throw in there and try to calm, calm down. Nope, we're not doing that. Okay? We're not calming down. We're pretty upset and we're gonna stay upset. And anyways, I'm gonna tell you guys also in an update about Josh Hammer, who's an idiot. He really is an idiot. First and foremost. Just funny, I should have pulled it up.

0 (44m 31s):
He also brought up his book. He issued a statement about the retreat weekend. Josh Hammer lies through teeth all the time. And so he was releasing a statement about how wonderful the Hamptons retreat was and that him and Seth Dylan totally did not press Charlie on anything. And in this public statement, he mentioned his book again. He said like, I came to the Hamptons because Charlie wanted me to bring signed copies of my book. I mean wacky I this man, it's always appropriate if you're Josh Hammer to promote your book, which is just amazing. Anyways, his response yesterday to our episode was to release text messages between him and Charlie following the call. Great. It lets us know that the call happened at the exact same time that we, we figured it would actually happen in our timeline, that it had to have been an evening call before he tweeted public execution in this three hour window.

0 (45m 20s):
But these, these are the messages we should read them. Charlie Kirk, thank you for your help, guys. A totally standard response that you say, no matter what exclamation point, and then I assume this is Josh Hammer that replies and says, good luck at the campus visit start. Don't hesitate to let me know or any of us know how we can help. What's your first stop tomorrow, by the way? And I felt like that was weird because I feel like his whole story was that Charlie was reaching out to him because he wanted help to strengthen his debate. He needed tips on how to str because he just loved Israel so hard that he was like, give me the best talking point so I can go out there and I can defend the state.

0 (46m 4s):
And I know that like a couple hours ago I was really angry and I said, I'm done with the pro lobby, but now I just love you so much that I just, I wanna get on the phone with you and have you who could not beat me in a debate, teach me how to debate. That's what he told us. So we're supposed to believe that he didn't know where Charlie was debating. That's how the, that was what the call was about. I don't know. I feel like you would maybe know, and that may have come up in a call where you were prepping for his debate tomorrow where exactly it was that he was debating tomorrow. I don't know anything other than that. Josh Hammer is an idiot who can't be trusted and lies through his teeth. I do wanna get to speaking on the topic of Israel. There was a very good video that came out.

0 (46m 48s):
Actually, let's first talk about the Israel and Hamas peace deal that they're trying to shove down our throats. Now, if you're reading the headlines, a peace agreement is what we're calling it has been reached between Israel and Hamas. Oh my gosh. Because they've decided that there's gonna be phases and Israel is gonna partially withdraw its troops from Gaza and Hamas is going to release the remaining hostages. And this is of course, after everything that happened on October 7th. Don't forget about October 7th. And yeah, like hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are missing. And yeah, they have destroyed 85% of Gaza and they're going to try to tell us that we've reached peace.

0 (47m 28s):
At the center of it was Steve Whitcoff and Jared Kushner. They arrived on Wednesday morning to represent the US negotiators from Israel and Hamas and the mediators from Qatar and Egypt and Turkey also participated and we're supposed to go, wow, that's amazing. Trump put a statement out on truth social hero. I'm very proud to announce that Israel and Hamas have both signed off on the first phase of our peace plan. This means that all the hostages will be released very soon and Israel will withdraw their troops to an agreed upon line as the first steps towards a strong, durable and everlasting peace that all parties will be treated fairly. I can't even finish it because it makes me sick that they think we're this dumb.

0 (48m 8s):
85% of Gaza has been destroyed in this pre-planned controlled demolition of Gaza. Y Netanyahu is on camera explicitly before October 7th saying we need to hit them so hard that they can't come back. Jared Kushner is, is involved in Fi. He will financially benefit from whatever they build in its place. Again, all of this began before October 7th, right? So we are supposed to believe that this isn't just, well business as usual. We got done, we need to get done, and now we can begin phase two. But we're supposed to thank them. We're supposed to thank the monsters that did this.

0 (48m 51s):
You guys have it in your heart to say thank you, thank you to Jared Kushner and Donald Trump and BB net and Yahoo, who are just business partners playing a role convinced that we're all so stupid. I mean, let's roll the clip back from Jared Kushner when he sat down at Harvard Asad operation to speak about their aim. This is February 15th, 2024. Take a listen.

10 (49m 13s):
There are real fears on the part of Arabs, and I'm sure you talk to a lot of them who think once Gaza's leave Gaza, Netanyahu's never gonna let them back in.

11 (49m 26s):
Maybe, but I'm not sure there's much left of Gaza at this point. So, you know, if you think about even the construct, like, you know, Gaza, Gaza was not really a historical precedent, right? It was the result of, of a war, right? You had tribes that were in different places, but then Gaza became a thing, Egypt, you know, used to run it. And then, you know, over time you had different governments that came in different ways. So you have another war, you know, usually when wars happen, you know, borders are changed historically over time. And so my sense is, is I would say how do we deal with the terror threat that is there so that it can be a threat to Israel or to Egypt, right? I think that both sides are spending a fortune on military. I think neither side really wants to have, you know, a terrorist organization, enclaved, right between them and Gaza's waterfront property.

11 (50m 9s):
It could be very valuable to, if people would focus on kind of building up, you know, livelihoods, you think about all the money that's gone into this tunnel network and into all the munitions. If that would've gone into education or innovation, what could have been done. And so I think that it's a little bit of an unfortunate situation there, but I think from Israel's perspective, I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up. But I, I don't think that Israel has stated that they don't want the people to move back there afterwards.

0 (50m 40s):
Trump wants a Nobel Peace prize, by the way, for the planned ethnic cleansing so that they could profit on the land and turn it into a beach town. So let me say this, this is our never again, okay? This is a holocaust. A holocaust just happened. A real holocaust just happened. We will never forget this. You need to tell your children what happened in Gaza. You need to tell them exactly who did it, exactly who families were involved in this. And when you hear in the future somebody tell you like, we're going to Gaza Beach for a vacation, you need to look at them like they are the absolute vermin of our society because they are, they are, their children will be cursed.

0 (51m 25s):
Okay? You go and you play in the sand where you know that your forefathers planned to mass murder children, you will be cursed. Every person who steps foot on that, every family that is set to inherit what they did, they will be cursed. Your children's children will be cursed. Gaza belongs to nobody but the Palestinians. So when you begin to move the Israelis in there, and when the Trump Hotel gets built on there, I caution the rest of the world to stay far away from that cursed land because something is coming. You can't commit that much evil in broad daylight and not think it's gonna come back to haunt you.

0 (52m 12s):
Anyways, God bless, may he get his Nobel Peace prize. Sticking with that point, obviously, I was looking to see what people thought about the text messages, and it was really funny. I came across a clip of Matt Walsh, who I adore. It's very funny. And he was saying about the Charlie Kirk messages, he actually thought they were fake because he said he couldn't believe the sentence that felt too on the nose. He's like, I genuinely thought that there's no way Charlie would ever leave the pro-Israel lobby. First and foremost, his support for Israel, he, he loved it so much. So it's like you must have done a lot to make him actually write that statement, which felt too on the nose to Matt Walsh in that text message, I have no choice but to lead the pro-Israel cause.

0 (52m 59s):
And anyways, he gave some very sage advice, which is not going to be heated by the Josh Hammers of the world about what that really means. That your behavior pushed even Charlie Kirk away. Take a listen to what Matt Walsh had to say.

13 (53m 16s):
And at some point, if you're on the pro-Israel side, you really need to be honest with yourself and engage in some actual honest self-reflection and self-analysis. You really do because you're losing the argument. I mean, you're just losing it. You are, and I I, I've never seen any side of any argument lose this much support this quickly. I can't think of any other example of something like this. And if you're on that side, you need to have the courage and humility to ask yourself what you're doing wrong.

0 (53m 57s):
It's never too late to say, Kanye was right, never too late. And I'd like to say that Kanye was right. It's behavior, it's how they treat people. It's statements like that, like just pretending like we're just making things better when we do ethnic cleansing that was pre-planned, we're just better. We should get a peace prize. It's, it's coming to an end. You can feel it. Like I said, unless they've got a plan and maybe they do to kill 7 billion people, our our memory will not allow them to just move along from what happened here. A, a true evil.

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All right guys, what is on your mind? Giving you a lot of information more to first and foremost we have Petra lab. She writes, Candace is the real Liam Neeson in the movie. Taken has particular skills like spelling out lies, knows the authorities are not trustworthy, is determined to find out who betrayed. Charlie. Liam would not trust the authorities to find his daughters. Keep going. Candace. Yeah, I do gotta be just insane to trust the authorities. As soon as somebody says we're just trusting the authorities suspect on the list. What do you mean we're trusting the feds? Like since when are we doing that? Mary? Go wrong Rights.

0 (58m 28s):
That's very funny, Mary. Go wrong. Keep speaking the truth. Candace, thank you so much. Julie g writes, I've been spending a couple of hours a day defending you on X and I'm truly honored to have done so. They've gone a little quieter over the last few days. The special bond that you shared with Charlie is evident for all to see in many videos of you both. Truth will prevail. Thank you Julie so much. Also, don't waste your time in case you don't know there's like military bot farms on X, which sucks, but that is a reality. And so you're not even fighting with real people. So they're very, they dominate on X, not so much on Facebook. There's a bit more real people on Instagram. There's, there's more real people, but they do have bought farms there too. Radical rat writes, thank you very much for that donation. High American Muslim fan here in the spirit of friendship between our faiths.

0 (59m 10s):
Here is an excerpt from the Quran about Jesus who's speaking as a baby to defend Mary's honor said, I am the servant of God. He has given me the scripture and made me a prophet and he has made me blessed wherever I am. God is my Lord and your Lord. So worship him. I think all of us are, are realizing the tremendous need for true faith right now. And I had sort of tweeted, I think a couple of days ago that you can sense a chink in the armor of deception. Like we're learning a lot about how a lot of of money has been put behind these Judeo-Christian programs, which was something that I would speak about with Charlie because he was in fact very interested in Catholicism.

0 (59m 55s):
And so it is interesting to see that I, I do think the evangelical community is feeling that. And let me know if you agree that people are starting to wonder like why does my pastor, and again, it's not every pastor, but it's too many pastors get up on a stage and preach about Meg Kelly and Tucker Carlson that is leading to broader questions. And I think in the end, all of this is good. Like the, the topic of faith being at the forefront of our minds worldwide is good. A sisters writes, keep it up Candace, it's people like you that are the hope for these two little girls in this picture. God bless you and keep you safe. Praying for you and your team with love from East Texas to East East Texas. Thank you so much. Eight birds writes, the more I listen to Canna Owens, the more I want her to be crazy.

0 (1h 0m 37s):
And the more that people tell me she's crazy, the more I want to listen to her. Thank you so much. And our government is crazy and the rest of us are obviously understanding that and are therefore being called crazy. If you read about the history of Sigmund Freud book in my book club, if you can't join the book club, that's fine. You should read the assault on truth to understand what sorts of lies these people are capable of coming, of telling and why they're, what they do is they always accuse you of being crazy when you find out what they're lying about. They have been doing this for a very long time, Candace, it came from behind. You haven't been investigating on Elon's platform enough.

0 (1h 1m 17s):
I can tell you definitively, definitively, definitively, definitively that Charlie's shot did not come from behind. I can just you take that or leave that you can still go down that narrative. You can think that you saw that. I'm not saying that a shot wasn't fired from behind. I'm not saying that. Like I said, I've given you my theory. I think there's two, there's two shooters. The entry wound is what is on the front. The bullet did not exit. You are looking for a smaller gun altogether, which is how these operations have to work. You gotta have multiple things going on. It's designed to drive you crazy. And that is why I'm trying to focus investigations. And you know, I, I hope you guys trust me enough to know that I went through great hoops, multiple pe.

0 (1h 2m 4s):
I had to confirm it the right way and I did not trust the feds. Brennan Kirby writes, I have watched every episode that you have ever done even before the DW days. You are the best friend anyone could ask for. Charlie is lucky. Side note, wishing your kids luck when they try to sneak out as teens. They're not getting anything past you. You have not met my daughter. It's unbelievable. That girl had me putting her hair into pigtails the other night because she couldn't go to sleep. And she came downstairs, she said she just wanted to look cute. It's a ridiculous reason. It's ridiculous reason. It's not true. It doesn't make any sense. Nothing she said made sense. And there I was putting her hair into pigtails at 9:00 PM well past her bedtime because she just wanted to look cute.

0 (1h 2m 47s):
So toddlers have a way of avoiding bedtime and it's expert, it is expert level. Born to free writes Candace, I have been a fan since 2018, finally got my wife on board last year. She's now in your book club and a loyal fan and we never miss an episode. We love you so much. Christ is king. Tell her thank you. We're definitely a bit wild in the book club. Book club gets, you know, we go there, we go there for sure. But it's fun, it's very chill and you know that people are ready because they've read the book. So you're kind of, you're kind of able to push a little bit faster, I would say on getting people to recognize just how evil things can get. And that's why I say read these all and truth, confront that and then everything will start to make sense because you're gonna go, how the hell have our public school systems across the world been telling us that Sigmund FUD was like a wonderful man, like insane Brittany Schofield.

0 (1h 3m 38s):
Lastly, she writes, I'm a stay at home mom and I homeschool our six children. I'm so glad to see that you started homeschooling your children. We don't live a fancy lifestyle. My husband has to work his butt off, but it is so worth it, the value that it has already added to my life in just two weeks. And the happiness of just not racing your kids alpha door, but actually be structuring things and realizing they're gonna learn. And how funny it is, is they are literally removing joy from our, our home and taking that joy and turning our kids into unhappy, miserable creatures. That question, oh, our parents are awful and they're woke and, and by the time you know, you, you, by the time your kid gets through, obviously the school system and through college.

0 (1h 4m 26s):
But what happened and what happened is that we gave up our, our blessed resource. We just gave it to the system. It's so wrong. And I gotta tell you, it's working. So many moms are pulling their kids out that they're now trying to pass laws against homeschooling. That's amazing. I mean not, it's not amazing trying to pass laws, but it's amazing that they're feeling the pressure, which I'll, I will speak about more obviously in the weeks to come and exactly what we're doing and how we're doing it. We're still figuring this thing out. But every day is, is a new adventure. And I hope, I hope that I inspire people to take the step. You will figure it out. Human beings are adaptable and I can tell you it is way more rewarding.

0 (1h 5m 6s):
Anyways, you guys, I am going on vacation. Love you. Send me tips if you have them about the topics that we discussed today, tips@canowens.com or more tips@canowens.com. I will obviously be lurking, I will be putting together more pieces. As I said, this investigation is ongoing and I expect that when we get back I'm going to have even more explosive revelations for you. You're absolutely doing this for Charlie Kirk. We will not forget. Okay, nine 10. We are not gonna forget nine 10, least of all when it hasn't been solved. So you'd like to support us. Obviously you can join our decentralized intelligence agency.

0 (1h 5m 47s):
It is truly because people around the world are sensing how evil this was and how corrupt it is that they are joining in and giving information where they can. We will always protect you. Buy yourself a hat, buy yourself a t-shirt. Join the decentralized intelligent agency and we are, I feel optimistic, you guys, we are going to solve this thing. So I'll see you in a bit.


10/8/25
Charlie's Final Hours. What Else Is Josh Hammer Lying About? | Candace Ep 250

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1 (15s):
Alright, you guys, happy Wednesday. Sorry we're running late today. I'm starting homeschooling. So still getting adjusted to the new schedule. Where should we begin? Okay, well Josh Hammer, because that's certainly getting a little more interesting, maybe a bit darker than we had anticipated because just 16 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, he mysteriously retweeted a 2013 tweet from Donald Trump calling for public executions. Now I have tried and I don't feel that there is any way that I can confident confidently explain to you guys why he tweeted that least of all in the context of him having already admitted that he and a rabbi in Israel had a long talk with Charlie the night before he died, something he was very proud of also, Dinesh DEA has jumped into the mix.

1 (1m 3s):
Welcome Dinesh dea. He is joining every commentator who hates Candace Owens. That's nice that he has entered the faray. He's got some things to say to me. We're gonna discuss it 'cause it's weird. And I'm also going to explain to you why more formally, at least why I decided to activate an effective kill switch. And I want you guys to pay attention because this is really important. Welcome back to Candace, Hoisted by his own pitard.

1 (1m 44s):
That's an expression obviously that we use a lot. And I have this thing where I always have to go back and research and figure out why we use common expressions. 'cause nobody actually thinks about those things anymore. Well this one is pretty obvious. It refers to when soldiers would use a pitard, essentially a bucket shaped explosive device packed with gunpowder, effectively a bomb to blow up the gates and wall fortifications of their enemies. They light the fuse and sometimes they would be hoisted by their own bombs. And that's exactly what is happening right now to Josh Hammer. For weeks after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Josh Hammer, obsessively and shamelessly accused people of lying, people of grifting, people of attempting to destroy Charlie Kirk's legacy.

1 (2m 34s):
Charlie Kirk was his friend. He claimed rather maniacally that Charlie never once flinched on the topic of Israel. He died just loving Israel. It was like, are you kidding me? It's all he cared about. Check out just some of these tweets. By the way, this is a collage we just don't have all day here to gather crazy Josh Hammer tweets. But you get the idea. There is a repulsive op right now to hijack Charlie Kirk's legacy. There is a repulsive op right now, desecrating Charlie's memory by trying to post humorously, convert him to Griper. I can't believe there's something known as grm. I was given access to this letter a few months ago and I read it at that time.

1 (3m 16s):
Tucker Candace and other bad faith actors are lying through their teeth about Charlie and Israel, Candace Owens and other Grifters. You get that back up for a quick second. Candace Owens and other Grifters are trying to post humorously rewrite and hijack legacy of the great Charlie Kirk to further their patently evil ends. There has been a repulsive op op upop. The reality is simple. Charlie was a bridge. Like it's weird that he keeps repeating that sentence. Like I said, maniacal obsessed. And of course in the comfort of his own derangement. And with the full support of the press and the silence of Charlie's other quote unquote friends, Josh was really acting the part of a a true pharisee.

1 (4m 3s):
He was certain that the truth would not rise again. He was so confident that he had killed it and that he could himself hijack the legacy of Charlie Kirk. Except the truth did kind of rise again. It kind of always does rise again. And the world now knows that Josh Hammer had personal intimate knowledge that Charlie's views were changing. He lied about the Hamptons meeting. I've told you the truth from day one. Seth, Dylan and Josh were personally upset with Charlie's defiance against the state of Israel. Seth Dylan was the more vocal of the two parties in the Hamptons, as I said, in terms of actually pressing Charlie. But both of them were upset about the way that they saw his viewpoints shifting.

1 (4m 43s):
And Tucker was therefore correct at Charlie Kirk's memorial. It was definitely the correct analogy when he spoke about these sorts of indi individuals who plot and lie and think that they're going to be successful in well murdering the truth in the story of Jesus Christ. Take a listen.

3 (5m 4s):
Charlie would've loved this not just because he loved large groups of people, but because ultimately he was a Christian evangelist. And it, it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever. So it was about 2000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power and he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people and they hate it and they just go bonkers. They hate it. And they become obsessed with making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking. We've got to shut this guy up. And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp litt room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us?

3 (5m 50s):
We must make him stop talking. And there's always one guy with the bright idea and I could just hear him say, I've got an idea. Why don't we just kill him? That'll shut him up. That'll fix the problem. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way. Everything is inverted and the beatitudes tell it. I think the most crisply, everything is sort of the opposite of what you think it's gonna be.

1 (6m 21s):
That is a fact. And it will always be the opposite of what you, we think it's going to be when you are attacking people who are telling the truth. And the truth is that is now an established fact. Like I said, that Josh Hammer knew that Charlie Kirk's perspectives on Israel were changing. And since that announcement, Twitter users pointed out a very strange tweet that Josh Hammer hit send on 16 hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated for no apparent reason at all. He retweeted something that President Donald Trump had sent a full 12 years ago about public executions. Here it is here is that retweet Trump wrote on April 19th, 2013 should be public execution for all to see.

1 (7m 6s):
You will end this bull fast. And Josh Hammer just replies and says, based, you can see this is, we are in central time. So that's about 9:05 PM Eastern time. Now, what is the justification for this? There might be one I tried in earnest to at first rationalize it, right, what could have been going on that Josh Hammer decided to dig through the 2013 Twitter archives and retweet someone, calling for someone, calling for public execution. Well, I'll let one of the many Zionist PR agents explain it first. Yashar Ali, who like I said, is quite literally paid to do PR for Zionists. I know this personally on the right hand on the left, tried to explain it away by kind of lying.

1 (7m 49s):
I would say he tried to claim definitively that Josh was referring to the criminal who horrifically murdered the Ukrainian refugee arena ska in North Carolina. That was obviously a big story in the beginning of September. Yha Ali wrote this last night. Candace Owens quote tweeted, notorious neo-Nazi Sam Parker, who pointed out that Josh Hammer, who is Jewish and was a friend of Charlie Kirk's, elevated a Trump tweet from 2013 the day before, which called for public executions. Candace, of course, would like people to believe that Josh's quote tweet is suspicious in the context of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Josh was just sharing what many conservatives were sharing and stating the day before.

1 (8m 31s):
That's because they were talking about the horrific murder of arena Za Ruka. This is where I say that no civilized nation uses the death penalty in parentheses referring to his own thoughts. Now, another user then jumped on that and tried to establish a non fact that the footage of arena's murder was released on that day on the ninth. And that's why Josh tweeted that all of this is factually untrue. Okay? Arena was murdered on August 22nd. Her perpetrator was arrested that same day and the footage was released and trended on X on September 5th. Josh himself sent multiple tweets regarding the homicide as everyone did because like I said, it was trending.

1 (9m 15s):
And when he was asked specifically about punishment, criminality, perhaps, that her perpetrator should face Josh, at no point that I could determine whether he was on the news, whether he was on his own show or anywhere else, did he speak about the death penalty or you know, a public execution instead, as you will see, and we will show you Josh, in his own words, he spoke about the double standards surrounding the media coverage of her murder and really the topic of criminality more broadly and safety in America. Take a listen to what Josh said.

5 (9m 50s):
You know, Gabrielle, I'm I, I, I'm, I'm a lawyer by training and I, I remember my first year of law school back in 2013 when I was taking criminal law. This is kind of the beginning of kind of the less kind of foray into so-called criminal justice reform. And even back then there was a lot of chatter among my more liberal classmates about how, you know, incarceration and, and, and prisons and lock people up. You know how all of it's just racist. It's kind of like a, it is an old kind of symbol of a white patriarchal, colonialist, imperialist society there. And how the ultimate goal is basically to defund the prisons. And then, you know, if some people are gonna commit some violent crimes, you know, essentially let the chips fall where they may, well, you know, this is land, the chips fall where they may, but most American people have not lost their minds.

5 (10m 30s):
Most American people stand where, where, where Donald Trump stands was that they want basic, basic safety. And

1 (10m 38s):
I don't disagree that we all want basic safety. I just don't hear him. And like I said, I've looked for it ever, even calling for the death penalty in those days that were leading up. So I decided to do what I always do rather than say what he definitely meant or what he didn't mean. I decided to just create a micro timeline of Josh Hammer's tweets. And it gets pretty interesting. On September 9th, the day before Charlie Kirk's assassination, this is what Josh Hammer tweeted. He tweeted a total of nine times on September 9th. And you can gather what was going on at that day from his tweets. He wakes up at seven 30, a six or rather pushes the first tweet at seven 30, a 6, 7 30 6:00 AM and he tweets about a viral Phillies crowd scandal. This is an eastern standard time by the way.

1 (11m 19s):
Right after that he tweets a link, the one that I just showed you to his media appearance about arenas, za ruka where he does not call for the death penalty or anything close to the death penalty. 9:23 AM he tweets against Tucker Carlson 'cause he has to do that at least twice a day or I don't feel like he can get on with his day 9:29 AM he tweets in favor of Israel and throws shade at Trump and Qatar. And at all of this is related to what went on on September 9th, which is that Israel bombed Qatar for no reason violating international law, which they tend to do a lot, but, but he of course was in favor of what they were doing. And so he throws shade at Trump and Trump's relationship with Qatar. 'cause I guess it would be okay for them to violate international law if Trump wasn't friends with Qatar or something.

1 (12m 5s):
11:33 AM he tweets against Saudi Arabia because they came out and made a statement against what Israel had done. So he tweets against Saudi Arabia and then at 3:00 PM he tweets against Tucker Carlson for telling the truth about Israel. And nine 11, again, he has to do that a couple of times a day. It's part of his ritual. 5:58 PM he tweets about the Hebrew Bible being the basis of western civilization alongside a speech that he had given tweets a link out again promoting himself 5:59 PM he tweets a, a promotion of his media appearance regarding a Supreme Court decision. And then there's this three hour break puts his phone down.

1 (12m 47s):
Maybe, maybe, maybe this is a three hour break where he speaks to Charlie Kirk, I don't know, but I know that he speaks to Charlie Kirk at night and then at 9:09 PM again, we're talking Easter and Josh hammer tweets in favor of public execution. And there's no context that is provided. So anybody telling you he for sure meant this or he for sure didn't mean this is a liar, we cannot know that. We cannot know. Josh Hammer's thoughts. A couple of things that I wanna point out. Josh is not saying in that tweet that he's calling for the death penalty. People calling for the death penalty. Debating the death penalty is a very common political debate. It's a very common political talking point. It is absolutely not a typical or a regular political talking point or debates regarding public executions.

1 (13m 32s):
We don't, we don't talk about that often. It's an exceedingly specific ask, right? Usually reserved to a visceral response to something that you have seen. And in the moment, right, Matt Walsh actually we're prepping the show. I said, I will guarantee you that when that footage got dropped, which was on September 5th, four days earlier, Matt Walsh would've tweeted, this person should be publicly executed. And by the way he did, he didn't. He said, we can't keep living like this. The only solution is ruthless punishment, public execution for violent criminals, long prison sentences, hard labor. This guy had multiple previous arrests, he should have already been serving 30 years in the labor camp. This is the only way, as our ancestors knew, we've tried compassion and restorative justice and this is the result.

1 (14m 18s):
It was inevitable. So Matt Walsh then went on his show and further explained that already contextualized tweet. And he explained how men have a visceral response when you see somebody being victimized, a woman being victimized in that way. That arena was. So we decided for good measure that we should check to see if maybe it was something regular that Josh Hammer also spoke about, which is public executions. And I can tell you that it is not something that Josh Hammer regularly tweets about or discusses. The first time that he tweeted about a public execution was back in 2013. And he said it in reference, I'm sorry, in 2022, and he said it in reference to the Boston Marathon bombing terrorist account.

1 (15m 6s):
Oh, sorry, the valdi shooter. The valdi shooter was apparently dead. But just as with the buffalo shooter, this level of pure evil would have been another ideal time for a public execution. So to be clear, that makes sense, right? He is in the moment and he is saying, I'm having a visceral reaction to the idea of another school being shot out, be being having another school shooting. And for that reason, I am saying that this would've been appropriate scenario for a public execution. Motions are running high, you are visceral and you're learning things. You're seeing and you're learning those things in the moment, as I said, that would make sense in its context.

1 (15m 52s):
I also want to remind you that Josh Hammer is a lawyer by training. He was at one point, the editor at large of the Daily Wire, and he's currently the senior editor at large at Newsweeks. Plus he hosts his own show. My point that I'm making here is he knows how to communicate, okay? This is not some random guy on Twitter who doesn't know that if you haven't tweeted all day about something, you can't just throw out tweets about public executions without contextualize them. Right? He certainly understands you don't just send out a standalone tweet at 9:00 PM and everyone's just gonna go, what are you referring to? He knows the public is not going to comprehend what he means outside of him providing some further context.

1 (16m 34s):
And I will also add here that it is not particularly helpful that Josh Hammer as an individual is obsessively angry. He's an incredibly angry little man. You can read through his tweets. He has openly expressed bigoted and prejudiced opinions against white people, okay? He does not view himself to be a white person. He views himself to be a separate race Jewish. That is a fact. And it wasn't a long time ago, we don't have to go back to 2013 to hear his ideas on that. Here is a tweet from him in 2019 that he then erased regarding white people. Here's what he said. Jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA, okay?

1 (17m 17s):
Just like it's inherent. You're just inherent. If you're white, you're inherently guilty, you're inherently an antisemite. It's just you're, you're you're born this way. It's just in your DNA. It's, it's incredible that he said that. And in response, we were told that he meant it metaphorically. Which kind of, hmm? Metaphor. Metaphor. He run that tweet again and just, I do know a little bit about metaphors and similes and I'm not feeling Jew. Hatred is inherent in European DNA. How's that for a metaphor, guys, for you? Because I thought metaphor might be fire hair to describe somebody who's redhead headed.

1 (18m 1s):
Oh no, it's not literally fire, it's fire. Fire red. No, I don't think a metaphor would be saying explicitly and literally that hating Jews is inherent inside of white people. I think it's amazing that he's even allowed, like there's just no consequence. It's like, eh, well editor a larger Newsweek, what are you gonna do? Eh, it's fine. You can hate white people. We all know that. It's fine. Totally fine. Anyways, that's what he thinks about you guys. Full stop. And people are maybe perhaps because of that, because of how he regularly treats people and how he regularly attacks people and how vicious he is are not feeling particularly charitable towards him. Especially ha having been exposed as somebody who lied so audaciously and boldly and repeatedly and unnecessarily about the pressure that Charlie was under pressure, which Josh Hammer was a part of applying in the weeks.

1 (18m 54s):
And then in the hours leading up to Charlie, Kirk's death saddens me that Charlie was stressed and Charlie was worried. And that the very people that were stressing him out and making him have that sense of anxiety and worry, then you eulogized him and lied about all that. Why lie? That's the part that the public does not understand. How can we then trust a person that lies in that way? The natural thing is for us to then wonder what else is Josh lying about? Would we trust if Josh came out and said that tweet was definitely about arena, other people poll Trump tweets some did, pulled that very tweet and called for a public execution.

1 (19m 35s):
Would you trust Josh if he came out and said, I know I didn't con contextualize it. And I know all day I was tweet about Israel, but that one was about arena. Don't forget, he proudly went around and he promoted to everyone that would listen. But he spoke to Charlie the night before he died, probably in that three hour window, he bragged that he and Rabbi Will Lakey had a zoom call with Charlie. Why? Because they said Charlie wanted them to help him with his talking points about Israel. Now, I have to say Charlie was one of the most skilled debaters ever, like literally ever any person that I have seen actually debating on stage.

1 (20m 23s):
I learned my debate cues from Charlie Kirk. So it is very new to me to think that they scheduled this call because he was in need of tips on debating from a rabbi over in Israel and Josh Hammer, look. But let's be real. I have no proof to the contrary because I wasn't on the Zoom call. And Josh made it clear multiple times that in his last conversation with Charlie, Charlie above anything else, was really interested in Josh's book. So much so that in his literal first tweet after news broke that Charlie had in fact died. Josh manages to bring up his book.

1 (21m 3s):
I'm not kidding. Here's his tweet. He writes this, I am speechless, devastated, and heartbroken. We spoke less than 24 hours ago. Charlie joked how he was going to plug my book on this very tour. He was a unique force, a generational leader, pray for Charlie's beautiful wife and their young children rest in peace warrior. And as you saw yesterday, Josh never forgets to plug his book. He never once forgot to plug his book. A few days after Charlie's death, he went on JTV, which is on the global Jewish channel to discuss that call, that last call with Charlie further with a host named Ali. And here is what Josh says about his book.

5 (21m 43s):
We actually did speak for the last time, less than 24 hours before the assassination happened. We had a Zoom call, a friend of mine, him, a couple of his producers. It was, it was a small call. We were literally talking above all about the anti-Israel questions that he expected to receive on this campus tour. We were kind of talking him through talking points and strategy and how to deal with, with these expected hostile questions. And you know, you held on my book Israel and Civilization Ali, he, what? The last words I think Charlie spoke to me were he literally said, you know, Josh, you know when the Israel question comes up, I'm just gonna plug your book, you know, Israel and Civilization, because I think that that what you write in the book basically is, is how I feel as well. And that ends up being the last time that that, that, that, that we spoke.

1 (22m 27s):
Well you heard him, it's like Char Charlie's final wish is for you to buy Josh Hammer's book. I mean, he is like, hey, he literally says like, the last thing he said to me actually was like, I'm just gonna plug your book out. What he wanted to do on his tour was just to plug Josh Hammer's book. And it's so sad that he never had the opportunity to plug Josh Hammer's book. Now let's keep with this interview because he's going to be asked more specifically about certain characters in the movement that are trying to quote unquote hijack Charlie's legacy by telling the truth. And remarkably he is going to work. I swear it's gonna work in his book again, take a listen

6 (22m 60s):
If precise you, as you, as you mentioned, there have been people who like Ian Carroll and it pains me to to mention her name Candace Owens because I know how close she was. And may we still, still is to to Charlie. But at the end of the day, she's chosen to hijack his death right now to blame it on Israel. I mean, it's just so disturbing. But then you have the people who are sort of a bit more in the middle. Oh, and maybe I wouldn't even say in the middle, but there's teetering a bit, the Megan Kellys and the Michael Knowles and others kind of in this InBetween. What do you think's going on there with them?

5 (23m 39s):
Yeah, look, I mean we, we can talk about every commentator one by one, but I think it's kind of easier to make a few kind of generalizations, right? Right. I i, I I think a lot of folks are kind of just trying to take their commentary to where they see the perceived momentum, especially among the younger generation there. But, so I think a lot of it is trying to kind of, you know, stick your finger in the wind and try to see, you know, where Gen Z is. And also really, I mean, above all secon, just where the Twitter algorithms are right now. I mean, it's very hard to look at someone like, let's take Matt Gates. Okay? Matt Gates was a former Republican congressman from Florida. Now he hosts a show on One America News. Matt Gates and I were very friendly for a while, okay? He had me on his show back in March when my book came out, Ali, he referred to my book as a battle map to save Western Civilization.

5 (24m 25s):
It was an extraordinarily kind segment. He was asking very intelligent questions. He clearly had read the book, he was engaging with the material in it there. And a few months later, you know, he's talking about Jewish supremacy, you know, a a term that has kind of like durst Sterner origins. And he's had all and on all sorts, all sorts of horrible guests. I mean, does someone like that like actually flip that quickly based on like, literally from March to June or July, right? No. Of, of course not. I mean, it, it defies common sense. It defies reality. That's obviously not what's happening there. I i, I think it's just profound cynicism. It's trying to kind of just play for clicks, play for money, and trying to kind of just generate some viral clips to appease a, a small but but very vocal and very online segment of the American rights and of the American internet user base there.

1 (25m 14s):
I just love that he doesn't even blink as he goes from promoting his book again to then accusing people of wanting money. It's, it's just incredible. As he's completely grifting off of Charlie's death by trying to promote his book as like Charlie's last wish. It is, it's really amazing. Also, why does Michael Knowles randomly catch astray? Like, what's Michael Knowles been up to that he's like now on their list. Michael Knowles, Megan Kelly, they're listing them. That's coming next. Okay? Inevitably it comes inward. And I just wanna be clear in case what he's saying is not registering to you correctly. So white men, to the extent that you are willing to get out there and work to serve really his book, sell his book to serve his interests, which are very clearly Israel, you're cool, you know, no one's gonna call you antisemite.

1 (26m 6s):
Everything can be cool to the extent that you, I don't know, maybe don't wanna do that, you'll be ruined. Matt Gaetz, what was he thinking? It's crazy. Like what on earth was Matt Gaetz thinking? It was great when he was out there pitching Josh Hammer's book and now he can't be saved. But then, and this is where it gets important, Josh Hammer gets even more specific addressing the question. If Charlie was beginning to crack on his support for Israel, let's not forget, we already know the answer to this is yes. So looking at this hindsight, 2020 really is something, take a listen.

5 (26m 46s):
If he is what, or if he was going in in a direction that Candace Owens and others say he was going in, you know, very, very simple points would he have had on me and our friend Rabbi Pesak wooki literally the night before his death to spend an entire hour talking about how to respond to anti-Israel talking points. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. It literally simply does not make sense. His heart was absolutely in the right place. Again, he was trying to navigate kind of some very choppy water stuff.

1 (27m 15s):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It really doesn't make sense. Charlie was just on the phone looking for talking points, trying to navigate some choppy waters with how he was gonna address these kids that had some questions about Israel. He didn't, he was un flinching, but he gratefully had Josh Hammer's book and wanted to go through it and make sure that he remembered everything. Now, this is probably also a great time referring to that little conference call they had, whatever was a Zoom call to tell you that, that Rabbi Rabbi Wiki was also on the now infamous text chain. So this means that both of those individuals knew exactly where Charlie was at on the topic of Israel and how he felt leading up to that moment of his death.

1 (27m 57s):
And again, like I said, two weeks before that in the Hamptons, they knew where he was at. Tucker Carlson told you the truth on his stance on Bibi Netanyahu. Nobody wants to address or answer the question of whether or not when Bibi Netanyahu invited him to Israel, what the context was of that. Do you think that guy was fighting a 140,000 front war because he keeps picking fights and pretending he's a victim, really just has time to pick up the phone and shoot the breeze with Charlie Kirk, whose number according to the released letter he didn't even have in May. So what's he calling him about? They obviously weren't close if he didn't have his number. Okay, so what's he calling Charlie about?

1 (28m 37s):
Why is he inviting Charlie to Israel two weeks before he dies? Right? Nobody will address that. Charlie said, no, he did. He said no, he didn't flinch. He wasn't even flinching. He was just busy and couldn't make it to out to Israel or something. Now, I will say that regarding Rabbi Will Lakey, I think he has more of a conscience and soul than Josh Hammer. I haven't seen him promoting his book. He doesn't lie as audaciously and as repeatedly and tweets nearly as neurotically as Josh Hammer does. But don't you listen to what he had to say When asked whether or not Charlie was turning on Israel, give us our hindsight.

1 (29m 16s):
2020 Rabbi Biki,

7 (29m 19s):
The wild conspiracy theories on wild, wild on social media claiming that Israel and the Mossad are behind the assassination of Charlie Kirk because he was turning on Israel. Now you spoke to him just hours before his death. Did you feel that that was the case? That he was in fact turning on Israel? Okay,

8 (29m 39s):
LIDAR, I, I was in touch with Charlie on an almost daily basis for months, and he certainly had some disagreements with Israeli policy and he criticized Israel where he felt appropriate. He sometimes believed things like a lot of people do that are out there in the media. And that was really the substance of our relationship, was checking on things and finding out the truth. But that doesn't mean that he was immune to the negative sentiments that were out there. And there were a lot of people around him in the America first movement who were actively working on him to try to get him to turn on Israel. But the real answer to your question is, is the meeting that I had with him and the entire purpose of the meeting called by Charlie, Charlie called this meeting and, and it was on our schedule for weeks, was that he was going out on a campus tour.

8 (30m 29s):
Utah was the first stop on his new campus tour. And what a lot of people in Israel do not realize, or in the pro Israel community do not realize is that between 40 and 50% of all of the questions and at and challenges that he would get on these campus tours were usually about Israel. 'cause the campuses, of course have a lot of anti-Israel sentiment. And Charlie was known as a supporter of Israel. So he ended up being in a position where he was defending Israel all the time, and it drove him crazy because he wanted to talk about America, but he was defending Israel all the time. So in preparation for this new campus tour, he called a meeting of a few people that he trusted to talk about Israel issues and to anticipate the questions that he would be getting, the challenges that he would be getting on this campus tour, and to make sure that he had the truth and that he could formulate answers that he was comfortable with.

8 (31m 21s):
If Charlie had turned on Israel, why would he even bother with a meeting like that? Why would he call a meeting with a few pro-Israel friends of his to talk through Israel issues to make sure that his facts were straight and his talking points were straight so that he could defend Israel better? If he was turning on Israel, he would've had Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson in the meeting planning to throw Israel under the bus. The entire premise of the meeting refutes that, that theory.

1 (31m 52s):
How are you feeling about that? Now that you know that Charlie actually mentioned both Tucker and Candace four, eight hours earlier as they were trying to do what they always do, which is control, who he's allowed to speak, to control, who I was allowed to speak to back when I was within the Zionist movement and waking up and realizing something was dangerously wrong when they started to try to control my voice. It's unbelievable. It's really unbelievable to reflect on that. Now, I will say again, rabbi Wiki more of a soul. He's at least acknowledging that something was going on, right? I don't think he would've been comfortable pulling the jaw. He was great. It was amazing by my book, right? He loved every second. He's amazing. Oh my God, he wished, just wished he could have gone over. The one thing that hurt Charlie Kirk the most was that he would never be able to wear an IDF uniform.

1 (32m 38s):
He just wanted to go fight for Israel. That's kind of the vibes that they were trying to put out there. At least Rabbi Lickey is like, he was under some pressure, okay? He's saying it softly, but he's like, he was kind of needing to have a conversation to say he's not comfortable answering these questions anymore because he doesn't feel this way anymore. He realizes something is wrong. I told you he was particularly worried that Israel was infringing upon speech in America. I have text messages to that effect. Okay? So there's, there's no undoing that he was aware that they had lost a PR war. And it was weighing on him that he was seen as Rabbi Bullocky accurately states as this person who just defend Israel, especially when what they are doing is so plainly immoral.

1 (33m 21s):
It was starting to fracture people's viewpoints of Charlie, right? And Charlie, like I said, when he got into this, like when I got into this, we were genuinely pro-Israel. There was nothing, there was not payment that was coming in. It wa was I ignorant? Yes, I've owned that a thousand times. I thought it's not, it's not relevant topic and it seems makes sense. You know, the low hanging arguments make sense. Why can't they have your own country? Whatever I focus was BLM. He was always genuine. And I think as I've said, he was genuinely over it towards the end because of Jewish behavior. His words, not mine, leaning into the stereotypes of Jewish behavior, okay?

1 (34m 4s):
He didn't wanna be bullied. He was being bullied. They knew that he was being bullied. And yet they want us to believe that less than 48 hours before he died, Charlie announces that he announces that he has no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel. Cause because of Jewish donors and their behavior living up to these stereotypes. And despite this frustration, 48 hours earlier, the following day, he decided to have that smaller audience with two Jewish individuals who were on that chat and were aware that he was angry, but this conversation was not going to be a follow up or in relation to what he had just expressed hours earlier to them both. But rather, he was just like a super fan of Josh's book.

1 (34m 49s):
He's like, gosh, this is ama, this book is amazing. I wanna get on the phone with the author. What a wonderful opportunity to speak to the author. I love this. Tell me to come up with this idea for the book. I wanna hear more. And also I'd like to strategize on how to deal with the questions that are coming at me using and promoting your book. That's what Josh wants us to believe, at least, right? And then we're supposed to believe that he had that dramatic switch. So he went from I'm done to like, Hey, love you. How can I be of more service to you? And then in that exact same day, he was texting people saying They are gonna kill me on the same day that he's on this Zoom call is a fact.

1 (35m 34s):
This night Zoom call as, as Josh says it, it was at night in, or the New York Post reported I think, right, that it was at at night, that at the same time, that same day he's texting people saying they are going to kill me. And we are supposed to deduce from this that by they, what he really meant was Tyler Robinson. He meant they them, duh, like a non-binary person or a trans person. They were going to kill him. That was what he had a feeling about. And everything else was just completely irrelevant. He just had a sense, a premonition that a trans person was going to get him.

1 (36m 18s):
Do you believe that? Do you buy any of that? And I wanna say this, I was speaking to somebody earlier about how interesting it is that none of us, and I'm not saying none of us, I'm talking about Tucker Carlson like, and Kelly, myself, when we were speaking honestly and accurately about what Charlie was going through and how he was being bullied and how he was under pressure. And Meghan even spoke about it herself. By the way, Meghan, you should probably tell people who those individuals are. We never once said that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I've never said that because on the basis of the facts that you guys are following on the show, I don't have any evidence of that. It doesn't serve me to make up an narrative that I can't proof, right?

1 (36m 58s):
Why would I say that? But what I will say is that I am uncomfortable with how many lies people that support Israel have been telling in the wake of his death. That has been almost the only compelling argument that Israel had anything to do with it is the way they're acting right now. Like BB net and Yahoo, the propaganda, the lies the coming after Candace. So none of this was necessary. Nobody thought when this first happened, this is a hundred percent Israel, a hundred percent it's happened in Mormon country. How come there were no nor no Mormon people, no Mormon presidents coming out and saying, I just wanna be clear that we didn't kill Charlie Kirk 24 hours after he died.

1 (37m 42s):
Because that's what Bibe did. How come there were no Mormon people that started Operation Mormon, pastor or president feeling the need to facelessly attack me? I was actually on the Mormons. I've been on the show calling them out by name, saying who was doing what? Mormons were not offended by that at all. Because they wanna know if somebody is corrupt and had something to do with this, they wanna know if their church was involved in this. That's a normal response. Not to say we, it definitely wasn't us, but rather to say, I'm on this journey. I wanna know who killed Charlie Kirk too. And I'm therefore going to support Candace's efforts to find out exact opposite of what Israel is doing, right?

1 (38m 23s):
That is the one disturbing fact about people that support Israel, their behavior. To put it in a way that Charlie put it, take a big a little bit of a break here, throw to some of our sponsors.

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1 (42m 14s):
Okay, first I wanna put out an I, I think cops called an A PB. What does that actually stand for? Mark? I'm not a, I'm not a All points bulletin. See, you're never too old to learn something. And of course, marking about instantly All Points bulletin. Mark has got a lot of random facts about every subject up there in his brain. We're not really sure. Sure. Why. First order of business. I gotta put out this All Points Bulletin. I'm looking for footage on UVU campus, some particular footage from people that were there that day. And I wanna be real specific here so we don't clog up the inbox. 'cause obviously when you send footage to bigger file, I'm looking for video footage of any older males, okay? Any older males that day that have long hair that was up in a ponytail or a bun.

1 (42m 60s):
So if you are a UVU student or you know someone who was a UVU student, please send this around and ask people to send me their footage. I just wanna see footage of men that have their long hair, enough hair that it's up in a ponytail or a bun. There is of course, a specific reason why I'm asking for that. Also, there in me scouring the earth for every piece of footage is an almost incomprehensible lack of footage that is coming from the left side of Charlie. Meaning if Charlie is facing the crowd, it would be his left side. So we have gone ahead and highlighted for you where I am looking for footage from. Okay, I can't find footage from this section.

1 (43m 42s):
Chris, if you could go back to that first one again too. This section right here, if you were sitting here or gonna the next one all on the side when the shots rang out, or just before, you know, maybe in the 10 minutes before, so I can see who was around or what happened when those shots rang out. It is weird. There's just a co, it's like a black hole. Cannot get footage of that angle from the front. You're probably going, well, doesn't Turning Point have that footage? Well, turning point, as we have learned, is not going to show anybody anything in 4K or in 5K, I think, because that would be helpful or something. So we have to do it this way, the organic way, which takes much more time.

1 (44m 25s):
You know, I do wanna say this as well, you can send that by the way, to tips@candaceowens.com. We also have more tips@candaceowens.com. And please just put in the subject line footage at UVU that would be very easy. It would help us sort things. We've kind of been cleaning up the inbox. Again, more tips@candaceowens.com or tips@candaceowens.com. You know, somebody I was speaking to earlier today was speaking about, you know, the anxiety that Turning Point is going through. I do wanna say this first and foremost, because I, I felt this way at up previous companies.

1 (45m 7s):
They are amazing people that work at Turning Point USA, the overwhelming majority of them. And, and that's what sucks When it corporate people at the top take a direction. Those people get no say, right? This investigation is being assisted by Turning Point USA, not the execs, but turning point people on the ground. People that they don't even think about. Smaller employees, like they deeply care about what has happened. They deeply care about finding answers regarding what happened to Charlie Kirk. And so we never want to paint a broad picture that this is, this is turning point to the top is most certainly not the bottom.

1 (45m 47s):
And somebody was saying, you know what, if this, what you're doing destroys turning point USA. And I said, you know what, this is what I always say. If the truth is capable of destroying your company the truth, then does your company deserve to exist? Think about that. If, if I'm like, if people learn the truth about how Candace Owens treats her employees, Candace Owens isn't gonna have a career. If people learn the truth about what Candace Owens does in the weekends, it will destroy her career. Like that probably means that you're, you're not a good person or you're not a good company if the truth is a threat to you.

1 (46m 28s):
I've heard this argument over and over. I've never been fearful, and obviously I'm kind of constantly going through a public x-ray, a public x-ray of my life. People examine me. I'm never fearful because I think I'm a decent of decent person, right? I, I live honorably. Do I make mistakes? Yes, I own my mistakes immediately. And I will be very quick to apologize to people when I get things wrong. But I'm not an evil person, nowhere near an evil person. And I always try to be honest. And so do not concern yourselves with people that feel threatened by truth. Right? That's, that's ridiculous. Anyway, speaking of which, obviously you can see right now the Zionist lobby hates me and Tucker Carlson.

1 (47m 11s):
It is like nothing anybody has ever seen in their lives this past year. It, they've really upped the ante on trying to destroy me. And Tucker Carlson, the hatred is deep, it's sinister, it's evil. And they have sent virtually every foot soldier that they have available to attack us repeatedly, right? Or attack us repeatedly. Make videos, people, it's confusing. What is it? Is she lying? Why is she saying this? Is this the right time? It's actually getting quite boring. I think it's a little boring. I would almost describe their strategy as Blitz Craig. I don't wanna, I don't wanna be accused of being a Nazi or using these two German words blitz, but it has been something like bombardment and a bombardment.

1 (47m 53s):
And this morning they sent out Dinesh to Souza after me. It was very, very convincing by the way. He sent out a tweet to convince people they shouldn't watch me. He said, I can't comment on Candace because it's quite obviously a freak show. It's like driving on the highway and seeing a farmer having sex with a sheep. You don't want to look, but you can't look away either. The problems begin when you try to analyze it. It is what it is. And I love that Isha Ali replies and says, this is what I mean. These are the people who are supposed to be combating Candace Owens. Instead they tweet stuff like this.

1 (48m 33s):
Yeah, hi Dinesh kind of weird man. We cannot relate. I gotta tell you, if I ever was in this awful scenario where I saw a farmer trying to have sex with a sheep, I feel very much that I could not only look away, but I could call the police. Okay? So if that's kind of what you're selling, you know how like when you can't look away from bestiality, didn ask, you wanna know your opinion on me, not what's on your laptop and how they may be blackmailed you. Okay? That's not what we're interested in. D Nash, dea. And he's like, well, I meant that as a joke. You didn't mean as a joke. You went it seriously. And it was weird. It got weird very quickly and we learned more about you than we learned about me.

1 (49m 14s):
That seems to be the circumstance. It's like a complete boomerang. But yeah, this is, they're really starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel and finding people that are some weird stuff. So I would say think Janesh Souza. If he thought that that was gonna be relatable and convinced people. Yeah, I totally relate. Yeah. It's like, I just can't look away from that stuff when you see it. I, that did not happen. That did not happen. Now because they are seriously increasing and being, I would almost say erratic in their behavior. Obsessive, erratic, neurotic. There is a real risk here, right? I do not accept.

1 (49m 55s):
And do you guys that Charlie Kirk lost his life because he really pissed off the trans lobby. It terrifies me to think that on the day that Charlie died, I got multiple phone calls from people who said that me and Charlie, me and Tucker should lay low because we're also on the list. And they never told us who specifically told them that, by the way. Now I'm wondering why they never told us, who specifically told them that. I called Tucker. I'm like, I'm hearing, are you hearing the same thing I'm hearing They're saying that we're next. And now I go, was that supposed to be a threat to me and Tucker to have us watch the public execution of a friend of ours and then to call us and to say, you should lay low for a little bit because you guys were, we're hearing that you guys are on a list.

1 (50m 46s):
Was that just supposed to be a threat? Because why wouldn't you be more forthcoming with exactly who you heard that from? And I said, I remember saying, I was like, did the feds say this? Who said this specifically? 'cause why aren't they calling me and Tucker? Why are, why am I calling Tucker and telling him about this? And I did. He, he will tell you that David, Charlie Kirk was shot. This really happened and I'm coming out of the grief stage and realizing, I think that was an element of this to, to send a signal, to shoot him in the throat, right? To say we took out his voice and we will take yours out too. And that's terrifying and that's real. And these people that we are fighting are dangerous, okay? Do not underestimate them.

1 (51m 26s):
They are dangerous and they are haughty and they are growing increasingly desperate and panicked. People that are evil in this way are not people that you wanna, that you wanna play with, right? People are nervous, everyone is feeling it. And that's why I decided that I don't know what's gonna happen, okay? I dunno how many days I have on this planet. I do know what I'm fighting for. And I do know that this life is not it. It's not. I'm telling you guys, it's not the people that want you to believe that it is people that pulled you away from your faith in the first place, as I'm trying to demonstrate to you did it because they knew they could further enslave you.

1 (52m 7s):
They want you to be fearful of death. They want you to think it's it. They want you to think it's lights out and then everything is over. And that you are not a soul, right? Because then they can get you to do things to guard what you have in this world, follow their rules, to do things that you know are wrong because you need the money. It indoctrinates you into their matrix. What I wanted to do as I discussed yesterday, and which got picked up, was to create a kill switch, right? To realize that Kanye was kind of right, never truly late to say that Kanye was right. Kanye said that in order to be free, you had to violate these contracts. You had to recognize that your voice is being controlled.

1 (52m 51s):
And Kanye did just that. It was really an act of bravery to free himself. But I have no doubt the same people that were torturing Kanye, the same people that were torturing Charlie Kirk, Kanye died today would be the first to eulogize him. I feel that. And Drew, I feel that. And I think it's important to share that information. As Kanye sent me all of the messages, people who were threatening him. I have 'em all to information share with Max Blumenthal, with People Village. I mean people all over the place to send a package and say, if anything happens to me and it looks suspicious, release it all. You know, it's not even about having an opposite and equal reaction. I want it to be an unequal reaction. I want it to be a mistake because people, it catalyzes people waking up and learning exactly how this matrix works.

1 (53m 40s):
And Alex Jones, I brought this up on his show. My my my Kill switch. Here's what he had to say.

9 (53m 48s):
What did she lay the traps for him? She comes out and says, yeah, Charlie was calling me, wanting me outta his events, you know, again, and all the rest of it. And he was also really concerned about the Israel lobby coming after him. And they said, you're a liar, Charlie didn't like you, Charlie didn't like you. Charlie didn't call you, he didn't text you. And so she l let him sit up for a few weeks and then released it, the text. And then she said, yeah, he was really upset with the Israel lobby and said he was breaking with 'em entirely. He wouldn't be bullied by them. And the weeks before he was killed, they said, you're a liar. That's not true. So she released those two days ago.

9 (54m 28s):
Now she says she has the proof and it's text messages that he feared for his life in the two days and the day before he was killed. And predictably that, that they're already saying it, she's, she's a liar. And then she's gonna release those. And she's also sent out the dead man switch, just like James O'Keefe did to myself and a few others right before he released the stuff on Prince Andrew, which is dangerous by the way, proving that he indeed raped the girls and cover it up.

9 (55m 8s):
People are like, we already know that. How's that daring? Oh, oh, you're gonna release the total proof on the King of England's brother. Yeah, that's dangerous. So those of you saying O'Keeffe doesn't risk his life and all the stuff he's been through and been arrested and indicted and raided, try putting on his issues for a while before you sit around and say that he didn't do anything. Man's a champion. But, but the point is, is that this is a real dead man switch. She has sent out it to the Tate brothers, Dave Smith, max Blumenthal, Terry Carlson and others. Well, I'm trying to get her on for weeks. I'm a little bummed out. She didn't send it to me 'cause I'd like to stand with her, but I, but we do stand with her. So they're already out saying she's a liar, she's gonna release that.

9 (55m 52s):
Now this doesn't prove Israel killed him or a lobby around that because I've seen no evidence. You know, they said in security detail was Israeli, they weren't, It was just the first knee jerk reaction. I said, you can certainly say Israel's a suspect, but I said, I need to see proof. We need to figure out the ballistics and who really shot him and all that before we then, you know, start saying, okay, you know, motive. I mean you can always look at motive, but, but, but first with the forensic situation, are they covering it up? What's the ballistics? That's just, just where I am. I'm not gonna just say something because people think it, but when she releases this and she's got it, make no mistake.

9 (56m 36s):
Just like she keeps bringing the goods and she just sets the hook with the worm on it or puts the mousetrap out with the cheese on it and they come out and say, you're a liar. And she goes, boom, you're a liar. Boom, you're a liar. Boom, you're a liar. Boom. Bam. So, and she'll let 'em, you know, for a week or so kind of stew and say she's a liar. And then she'll just release it. And then what she's saying is, you kill me. It doesn't matter. It's coming out. And the word is, he specifically thought Israel was gonna kill him. Even when Michael Savage first a few months ago said, Netanyahu needs to go on my show during the break.

9 (57m 16s):
He goes, man, I hope Mossad doesn't kill me. Crew saw it was on the feed. He didn't say it was off record, it was during the break. So there are a lot of groups who one Charlie killed, he was defeating the Democrats with T-P-U-S-A got over two and a half million people to vote conservatively for Trump was moving the needle big time more than anybody with young people on colleges. So I, I, you know, I see them as the motive. And they said, we want Charlie dead. And they said, you know, they celebrated when he was dead. He had like six Tifa say, Charlie, be dead tomorrow. Then they said, see we told you. And that was in the town. So you know, we got tifa, the tranny, Antifa running around, engaged in all sorts of violence everywhere.

9 (58m 4s):
So I was like, okay, yeah, I mean that that fits that.

1 (58m 8s):
So you get the picture. I mean I think, and he goes on to explain how we all feel, which is like genuinely we had no proof and no rhyme or reason to think or suspect Israel whatsoever. And it's really just been this insane behavior of covering up and lying that makes us question things. Like that's the reality. And by the way, questioning things doesn't mean that we have any proof that that happened, which is why we've been actually reticent to say that. But they're not acting right and gut means something. They're not acting right. None of them are acting right. That's not just turning point USA execs. And I've tried to explain it away in my head a thousand times, oh well you know, everyone's great.

1 (58m 50s):
Well whatever grieving and give them time. And then it just got to a place where I said, no, this, this feels like something else. I don't, I don't know why they're telling little lies and little lies only exists to cover up bigger lies. Anyways, you guys, all of that I also do wanna add here, show you a clip before we get into some of your comments. That it's also very good to not extend to everyone that is Jewish. The viewpoints of this very radical sect that has a lot of power in America. People like Josh Hammer don't get fired when they explicitly express that, you know, they hate white people, whatever.

1 (59m 30s):
That's like, okay, on your resume, that's not the people, you know this that you went to school with. Like I grew up around the Dave Smiths of the world, right? And I always say I'm grateful that I did because, and when you engage into politics, what you see is so ugly that you just go, oh my gosh. Like coming, coming into stereotypes, you're living up every stereotype. But what you're seeing is the stranglehold of APAC is a political organization. And I always say if you look at any lobby in DC it'll make you hate someone, right? Pharmaceutical lobby will make you hate pharm. The pharmaceutical companies, the Jewish lobby will make you hate Jews. The black caucus will make you hate black people. And so people that go to DC are incredibly corrupt.

1 (1h 0m 12s):
Money rules them and they become powerful. Power corrupts. Absolutely. It's just good to remember that. And I found myself wanting to show you this joke. This is a comedian John Marco Rezi who is Jewish and just taking, he's making fun. This is what comedians do. Making fun of himself makes everybody feel better. Just remember that there are people that are not like Josh Hammer. That's kind of what the point I wanna get across. Listen to this very funny joke by John Marco Sore.

11 (1h 0m 43s):
I celebrated most of the major Jewish holidays growing up. Passover was my favorite. 'cause you get to read it at the table. And then that's, that's, that's the story where the Jews, we were enslaved by the Pharaoh and then, and then Moses made the plagues happen and then, and then we escaped and we crossed the desert for 40 years. I liked it because it made juicing cool, but that was also kind of confusing 'cause I was like, okay, how, how did, how did we go from crossing the desert to now being known as generally frail? And I, I I, I didn't know. I didn't understand until one day I went on vacation to Miami with my very Jewish girlfriend and the moment we got to the beach she was like, it's like a desert out here.

11 (1h 1m 25s):
And I was like, oh my god, what if Jews have been exaggerating this entire time? We got stuck in traffic on the way there. My girlfriend was like, let my people go. The beach was a little crowded. She said There's like 6 million people here. Yeah, you got it.

1 (1h 1m 57s):
That's fantastic. It's funny and it's good to remind yourself that politics is, is serious all the time, but most of the people do not behave like psychopaths and they're very funny and can make fun of themselves.

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1 (1h 5m 20s):
All right guys, what do you guys think? Are you giving Josh Hammer a charitable read? Do you think that he was inspired because there were people that were bringing up that old tweet, they, you know, always pull, they always say there's a Trump tweet for everything and then people will pass it around for certain situations. Do you think that that was, is what he was doing in the context of what was going on that day, which was really the focus of his tweets seemed to be talking about Israel as always and and going after Qatar and Tucker Carlson as always, what are you guys thinking? Corey Henry, thank you for that donation. Hey sister from another mother hire more security.

1 (1h 6m 1s):
I fear for you now please stay safe. Prayers for you and yours. You are getting close. The phone call was them putting pressure on him. Wow. Just wow. Corey, I will tell you, Charlie owned the security company. So that security company you see that's around him, he owned it. He actually outright purchased a security company and it didn't matter and they didn't do anything. It clearly wasn't active vanity. They should never be allowed to work again because why would you not have, I mean he's a sitting duck. The amount that he was paying for that security, for them to not check rooftops, you could have someone actually requiring that you have access to rooftops. You could have one of your guys on a rooftop. Wouldn't that be a good idea? I dunno, I just, I don't understand it.

1 (1h 6m 44s):
Kelly Gibbs writes my Catholic bestie and I keep you in our prayers. Thank you Kelly for this gift, rosary and divine mercy. I pray that our Lord and Lady protect you and your family give you wisdom and safeguard the pearl of great price. The faith passed down from the apostles. Thank you so much. It's such a sweet comment. Jose Cruz writes, Candace, I love you so much. May God bless you. Can you lightly, please don't stop a lot of love from Mexico. I'm not associated with turning Point USA and I'm not a liberal. Please don't tear apart turning point USA because we need a movement for the youth. Please tread lightly. Make sure you have all the facts because you are an important voice. Any youth movement must be based in truth. And like I said, turning point USA has fantastic people that worked and signed up to work for that company and dedicated their time with that company.

1 (1h 7m 24s):
Whether even volunteers, people on college campuses because they believed in truth and they knew they were getting it from Charlie. Right now we are at a point and I think John and Irina map and in that beautiful letter they wrote yesterday said it way more eloquently than I ever could. Which is if you, if you actually continue the legacy of Charlie, it means continuing to fight for truth. And to the extent that they do that, fantastic, they will have an ally in me. I never attacked Turning Point USA because it came from turning Point USA and I saw what it took to build that company 'cause I was a part of building that company. But to the extent that we feel that they've become so corporate that they're not answering our questions or making us feel ashamed for asking these questions or just like feeling like they don't care about getting to truth, I think it was very sloppy what Tyler Boyer did on X.

1 (1h 8m 8s):
He was accusatory, he called people names to that extent they won't survive. That is just a reality. I can't fix that, right? People will pick up on that. They'll pick up on what feels like treachery. It will, it will feel to them like a betrayal to Charlie Kirk's legacy because that's how it feels to me, right? We're all feeling it together. That's the point. And so we offer this as a course correction for them. You know, I want to believe that they're just gr grieving in a weird way that they have a ton of things on their plates. Maybe they're fearful for their own lives, I don't know. But if that were the truth, they could still get the truth out to other people. And that is something I want you to know that Charlie was remarkable at.

1 (1h 8m 50s):
And that's why I always spend a, Charlie never took the bait on people saying he's this, he's this. Charlie was very good at knowing he's the guy that'll get in the room. He was happy to schmooze, he was a perfect diplomat and politician. And then he would call and he'd call like Tucker or me and say, you hit this, you go hard, you do this. I mean he was, as someone put put it today, he was a maestro. He really was. He's like, that's the drum, you know, so we're gonna need the bass, you're gonna need to be the strings. I'm gonna play this and, and we are, we're gonna have a symphony. They're not working with the fighters. It feels like they're working with the feds. They've said explicitly they're working with the feds. So I don't know what to make of that, but I hear you, I hear you. And I feel the same way. I want turning point USA to survive.

1 (1h 9m 32s):
I want them to be truthful first. Evie writes, thank you for that donation Evie. It's giving Joey from friends, do they know that we know No amazing work as always. Much love and support from Australia and if anything God forbid, happened to you, I promise we would all ride at dawn. Thank you. I know that you guys would all over the world and I know that you wouldn't know, but you would know. No. You know what I mean? Like we would know what happened. So there we go. Angela writes, follow the money. It never lies. Christ is king. Team Candace, thank you Angela. MJ Ramon writes, that's what's done in the dark will be exposed in the light. Absolutely it is biblical. Angela Lewis writes Mormon here, we love you Candace.

1 (1h 10m 12s):
We just want truth and we are praying for you constantly. Yes, I do wanna say, shout out to the Mormon community for never accusing me of being anti Utah or anti-Mormon. I don't know what anti latterday saints, sorry, I know nothing about your faith, but you have been assisting and that's been amazing. And you wanna know, like I wanna know, like we all wanna know Ken Herb, right? I realized something beautiful. Charlie wanted you on stage am fest. They tried to stop him, but in doing so, he made sure that you had an even bigger stage. He knew pulling back the veil on the current spiritual warfare needed to be shown by you on a global stage. Rest in peace. Charlie, I feel that way. I do. I feel like everything that happened, and that's why I say I was always like his big sister. Like it happened to me first and it was very hurtful.

1 (1h 10m 53s):
It was hard. And Charlie, it was hurtful for him because you believe they're your friends. Like I, I believed that. I believed they wanted my, I just took it I once to retweeted Max Blumenthal and they made me think I was like the worst human. And I took them at their word before I realized that it was much more sinister. And I'm grateful thus far that I did not pay any greater cost than them destroying my reputation in my name and trying to get me canceled everywhere. Dennis Domin writes, in times where deception grows Truthtellers matter most. Thank you Candace. Your courage gives hope. Greetings from Croatia Christ King tell you a story. I used to live in Croatia for a couple of months, about three months working on a wedding in Dubrovnik.

1 (1h 11m 33s):
Josie ELs writes, God bless you, we are rooting for you from Australia. I hope you're rooting for me to get into Australia by uncovering the flaws in the us You have opened our eyes to the demon that we are under in our own government too. I can't wait for them to approve your visa so that we can show you some Aussie love. Even that, you know, it's up to the supreme court or the high court of Australia. And if it happens, even that was meant to be because I, I still can't believe that I'm like banned from like I'm banned from a com a country. Like what am I doing that my country, I wasn't even gonna speak about Israel like nothing. And yet the Zionist lobby grows up and like she can't speak. I was gonna speak about homeschooling and children and my backstory and race issues and they were like, you can't come in. Okay, but you can still download my podcast on Spotify.

1 (1h 12m 13s):
I don't, I don't understand. Henry Love writes the spiritual war. Thank you for being one of the warriors of light. Thank you Henry. Rachel writer writes, I owe you an apology Candace, as a former dem, I am ashamed to admit that I've said some awful things about you wholly I'm unwarranted, that I deeply regret your, a brilliant, honest voice and a choir of crooks and liars. We don't deserve you. God bless. You know what Rachel? I'll apologize back because I was also partially blinded and I thought that it was just the left, you know, I was taking that low hanging fruit of us waring against each other. And I've realized now like no, we're all actually fighting real evil and we're gonna disagree along the way. You know, I, I don't think it's trans children. I'm against it. I'm very against it. But I also am more interested in where all of these ideologies are coming from.

1 (1h 12m 55s):
I'm more interested in the war against family. I'm more interested in waking everybody up by actually being more charitable in our interpretations of one another and what motivates us and less charitable to the government, right? Because they know exactly what they're doing and that's the real risk. That is the real threat to the government is left and the right actually uniting. In fact, they were like angry when they were randomly, you know, they've just been treating me Kelly like a battered wife and I know I say something, she gets beat. It's weird. But during that course of that constant and kissing when he was like, you need to make a statement against Candace and Tucker, somebody else was saying to her, Candace doesn't even hate the left anymore. Like that was supposed to be a convincing argument for Megan to trash me.

1 (1h 13m 35s):
Like really trying to get us exist in that left right paradigm and it only serves them at the top. So I, I hope more of this, more realizing and more coming together on the stuff that we can't agree on miracle media. Lastly writes, Candace, as a Christian you have the authority to fight any strife that comes your way. Recite and memorize Psalms 91, 1 21 23. And I guarantee God's angels will protect your footsteps, your family from these evil doers. They are protection scriptures. I thank you so much for saying that. And we pray every day. We really do. But everything is in God's control and we, I feel, are in a great period of revelation. And that is why we are also in a period of anxiety because with that the, you know, the demons commit further to their demonology and we therefore have to commit, commit more to truth.

1 (1h 14m 25s):
And yeah, that's basically all that I want to say to today. You guys, I have some bad news here at the very end. I am gonna take next week off, I'm gonna take about 10 days off. Actually I'll give you more details about that tomorrow. But you know, I just feel like I need to, I'm arriving at the acceptance phase. I will say the stages of grief was, is very real and I just kind of wanna take a little bit of time to really just kind of mourn Charlie in my, in my own personal capacity and just kind of recognize I'm never gonna see him again. I'm never gonna talk to him again and to say kind of bye in my own way and take a break and a breather. And so nothing bad is happening to me. I will still be sending an occasional Instagram wave so that you guys know that I'm fine.

1 (1h 15m 5s):
But I wanted to let you know a heads up what's going on there. Anyways, if you would like to support our show, as many of you guys have, you can head to candace owens.com. You can sign up, you can join our book club, you can buy our, we don't know. No, but we know Brad stuff. Join us in prison when Laura Loomer sends us for writing CIA in parity. And it's a parody 'cause we don't wanna be in a CIA. We think there's a lot of corruption there. Actually, I'm hoping one day my team will let me have the green hat. They never sent it to me. So hopefully if you know someone, somebody get me that green CIA hat. 'cause it's actually people are tagging me in and I don't have it and it's really nice. Other than that, you guys, thank you so much for your support and we'll see you tomorrow.

10/7/25
TPUSA RESPONDS: Yes, The Text Messages Are Real. | Candace Ep 249

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All right, you guys. Happy Tuesday. I gotta tell you something, Twitter or X, it hasn't really been that fun in a really long time. I think Elon Musk clearly gave it away to the military, and we now have to suffer these military bot farms calling for war with Iran. But last night, the platform was exceptional. It was amazing the tears that were being shed all over the place. I mean, I, I really picked out the best responses to me dropping the text messages. It was hilarious. Anyway, turning Point USA has responded to the release of the messages, so we are going to watch that. Spoiler alert, they were real, of course. And on top of that Turning Point, USA Donor has published a public letter regarding me, and I was truly touched by it, and I think you will be too.

0 (47s):
So I wanna share that. Welcome back to Candace. My little sister called me this morning and she was like, Candace, your podcast right now is like the show succession on HBO. You guys, you guys know this show, which is about how all of the heirs and supposed to be kind of fashioned after Rupert Murdoch's throne. All the siblings are fighting one another to see who will it be? Who will it be that gets this empire?

0 (1m 28s):
That really made me chuckle. I think that should be our new show intro. Yes, yes, yes. Who will succeed? Charlie Kirk, who shall inherit the Turning Point Throne? You know what, you guys, the best part of all of this for me is unlike those Ill begotten errors on the show, I have a 0% interest in Charlie's empire. I'm not motivated by the idea of carrying on his torch, not for a single moment that I think any person could carry on his torch.

0 (2m 8s):
If you thought you could, you clearly did not know Charlie Kirk. Charlie was in fact, an anomaly in the system. That happens rarely. And yeah, I don't know that I will live to see another person like him. I want you guys to know something. I wanna share this with you. You can take it or you can leave it, but Charlie was betrayed. I know this, I, I've known this really since the first second, but I rarely have vivid dreams. And I did in fact have a very vivid one over the weekend. In fact, last time that I, I had a super vivid dream. I was pregnant, tends to happen a lot. Two, and when they're pregnant. But in that dream, from 2023, my former producer of the show and I were standing in the control room and she told me that she was 26 weeks pregnant.

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This is in the dream. And she told me exactly what month the baby was coming. I asked her in the dream, is it a boy, is it a girl? And she said, it's a boy. I woke up and I immediately texted my producer in real life and I said, Hey, you're pregnant. Just so you know, it's a boy. And then she found out that she was pregnant one week later. She had no idea when I texted her, and it's something that we reflected on a couple of months later because she was just totally shocked looking back on it. And this is our, our, our text chain from, you can see 2023. She said, you texted me June 16th and I think I got pregnant June 26th. This is crazy and it's going to be a boy. It's nuts. I said, I'm telling you, your baby visited me. It was an insanely vivid dream.

0 (3m 36s):
He was on his way. And she said, that is so bizarre. My mom also texted me that week saying that she had a dream. I was pregnant. I said, I haven't had a dream that vivid since. It's been my only vivid dream this entire pregnancy. I believe people can communicate in dreams on their way in and on their way out of this world. I similarly, like I just said, had a vivid dream this weekend, and Charlie came to me and he told me that he was betrayed. And so for me, you don't have to believe that, but I do believe that. And it was the immediate sense I got actually. And I don't know who exactly it is that betrayed him, but I also felt in the dream that it is soon going to be revealed, that it's actually inevitable.

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That it is going to be revealed that there is nothing and no one that is going to stop the truth from coming out. And it is going to have international consequences. Take that to the bank. Quote me on that. Women tend to have a stronger intuition about people. I would say, I think it was the writer producer, Conrad Flynn that recently went on to Tucker Carlson's show, and he discussed that, discussed that phenomenon in the context of the persecution of Christ. He was talking about Pontius Pilate's wife warning him not to persecute Jesus. Take a listen to that portion of their conversation.

2 (4m 55s):
And if you look at Pontius Pilate, Pontius Pilate, you know, he, he wants to set you. He, at some point he flips and he is like, you know, I, this guy is innocent. My wife is having dreams about this man. Exactly, man. That's another thing that's under reported in history. Wife as wife as soothsayer slash dreamer. Yeah, I mean, you've, your wife has many times been like, I have a bad feeling about this guy. Tucker, don't have him on your show. And, and, and her intuition is such that you, even though there's no necessarily hard evidence, you know, it's your wife's take on stuff. You, you don't ignore it. But that's,

3 (5m 26s):
I have ignored it. And it's,

2 (5m 29s):
You're like, I've never actually never listened to that.

3 (5m 31s):
I, no, I mean, I've been married 34 years as of Saturday and it's like a joke in my house, you know, I told you he was bad. I don't know. He's hilarious. Yous like a good guy to me, you

2 (5m 42s):
Know? That's hilarious. Yeah.

3 (5m 44s):
So you,

2 (5m 45s):
You'd be the pontes pal where she's like, oh,

3 (5m 46s):
Did you hundred don't

2 (5m 48s):
Arrest this man. I

3 (5m 48s):
Had a dream a hundred percent. And

2 (5m 49s):
You're like, whatever. I'm doing my work right now. Yeah.

3 (5m 51s):
I'm very shallow. So someone's someone who's amusing or fun to have dinner with, you know, I just get swept away. I like that guy.

2 (5m 59s):
You know what I mean? You're like, Brads was amazing on that podcast. I gotta, I got, I gotta have, I gotta have him on these. He's fantastic.

0 (6m 6s):
It's actually really funny 'cause I'm recapping conversations that I've had with Tucker where I'm like, I don't know why you trust that person at all. It's obviously a bad guy. And he's like, really? I like him, but I had really nice dinner with him. Anyways, obviously what they're accurately describing, I should say, especially between a husband and a wife, definitely my relationship with my husband. I can say that from almost the very moment that I learned that Charlie was not going to make it, I said to George through tears that he was betrayed. And now we're all just sort of on this journey to find out by who. So I released a text message yesterday, dropped it on the world, and it caused, and this is putting it mildly, a lot of panic.

0 (6m 47s):
As I said, the chatter on X was top tier emphasis on the tier because there were a lot of them being shed by everyone who was discounting me. She's this, she's that, she's lying. Charlie never changed his mind. He was committed to Israel to the day he died. In fact, he almost died for Israel. That was the vibe they were putting down. And I was getting angrier and angrier and angrier, but self-control always pays off. There were moments on X where people were, after this text message was revealed almost like bargaining, like, please, this can't be real. Let me show you. They're making fake messages themselves. This is how easy it is to make a fake message. Th this cannot be real.

0 (7m 27s):
They were accusing, diluting themselves into believing whatever was necessary for them not to accept the reality that I was telling the truth. Of course, I was telling the truth. Here's just a few of my favorites. This is Village Crazy lady who I love Mel, who was responding to an absurdity that was being presented by Ashton Forbes. Mel said, these losers are down so bad right now that they are literally using their own attack lines for defense. Ashton Forbes wrote, he's been absolutely maniacal. First off, Candace has no credibility. Second, there's a bunch of telegram group chat scams that claim to be real people. I was briefly in touch with one Elon Musk.

0 (8m 9s):
Oh really? You were in touch with Elon Musk on Telegram third, if you discount the text messages between Tyler Robinson and his trans furry lover, you cannot take these at face value. Lastly, even if the text messages were real, they mean literally nothing related to Charlie's death. I find it scary how Candace is building a literal cult. Soon they'll be drinking a Kool-Aid in sync with, I don't even know if that says 31 Atlas to be sent to heaven. I think that might be a cult, actually. That's how I'm not, I I'm not in a cult at all. So much I don't even recognize was probably a very big cult's name. And I love that Mel replies and says, bro, if I got scammed in a telegram group chat by Elon Musk, quote unquote, I'd take that ish to my grave.

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Britta, you can see she's also replying. He was replying to Britta, no Soup for Noles. If you wanna bring that right back up, she wrote, and by the way, she used to work for Seth Dylan. So this is the usual chatter. A group of people she wrote is Candace posting fake group chat screenshots to conveniently back up her narrative that Charlie was dropping the pro-Israel cause and inviting Candace to the TPUS stage. I'm just asking questions. All fair. We allow questions, we even allow diagnoses. We're all, we're chill, we're on the side of truth. We are so chill. Li Laura Loomer who is legally just, you know, not allowed to own a gun because she's a a literal lunatic, had the nerve to post this about me.

0 (9m 36s):
When somebody called her out, Morgan Ariel said, Laura Loomer hasn't made a single post about Candace Owens reporting on Charlie Kirk's group messages. We all know she's the first to run her mouth. And she wrote, because I don't give an f about Candace Owens and her postpartum psychotic rants. Even if those texts are real, it still does not mean that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I never said that. Candace Owens makes content for low IQ people who don't understand how criminal investigations work. It's going to be hilarious when she's sued by TP USA in addition to Macron's wife. Yes. Bankrupt her for telling the truth. Do it, do it bankrupt her. Yeah, when you are down bad, just like Mel says, when they're really down bad, nothing is left.

0 (10m 19s):
You just sue. Anyways, back to how unhinged just chatter was on X, generally speaking, I laughed out loud. Everybody uses the term Blitzkrieg and even and the NFL football team say Blitzkrieg. Yes, it relates back to Germany. It's a bombardment strategy. So that's why we use it when you're going to bombard. And So I called it Blitz grig week because we're just dropping a bunch of bombs. And Brina decided to take that literally, she said, Candace thinks it's cute to use Nazi terminology and make a turning point, pun while she incites further harassment of TP USA employees by implicating them in Charlie's death.

0 (11m 1s):
It's a sick game for her. And out of nowhere, Megan Kelly needs to stop making excuses for this violent behavior. I have no idea. While why me Kelly is being just abused. It's like these people just get drunk and beat me Kelly when they get home. I don't know what is happening and why she's being dragged into anything that I say. But it's exceptional that they're now looking. They're so desperate that German words, you can't even say a blitz means lightning. Cree means war. Last I checked, people are still allowed to speak German at last. I check. Everybody uses the terminology Blitz, blitz, Cree, Washington Post certainly does when they're describing things that it's happening at the White House.

0 (11m 41s):
But now this is how desperate they are for anything grasping at straws. Nick Fuentes, our routine federal informant wrote, writes this, why did she sit on this for four weeks and then censor the other names, just grasping at straws, just grasping at straws here. And he follow that up by taking us a stab at Charlie Kirk who's dead. Charlie Kirk said he had no choice to leave the pro-ISIS Israel cause because a Jewish donor stopped giving him millions of dollars. What a coincidence. He had his great epiphany about Israel after they stopped paying him to shill, speaking of paying people to shill. It's why it didn't take one minute or one sentence rather of him trying to eulogize Charlie Kirk seriously.

0 (12m 23s):
'cause that right there is the real Nick Fuentes. The quartering jumped in. He says a serious question, let's assume the text are real and that Charlie was 100% serious and not just being sarcastic, which is totally possible. What exactly does this prove? Think before you reply, what does it prove other than someone close to him was fine leaking his texts. That's been their new talking point. How dare you leak text messages? And finally, this is just funny. So we're gonna show you this community notes for the win. The Misfit Patriot writes, I will give Candace every single shekel, Israel has paid me for my posts if she can prove those text messages are real. Update says community notes.

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Andrew Cove confirmed the screen grab was real. Of course it was real, but I, I mean I would have to be the dumbest person ever. First off, I'm not even inclined towards tech. But also would have to be an absolutely a moron to try to figure out how to manufacture text messages for the purpose of releasing them to then probably get sued by every person that was not in the chat. Like I'm just like, Hey Josh, hammer received this message. That'd be so dumb. But like I said, these people were desperate for it not to be real because they've been lying so hard about everything. They've just been lying and they have some egg on their face now, in reality, hit them pretty quickly this morning when Andrew vet Turning Points spokesperson confirmed that the messages were in fact real.

0 (13m 48s):
He did this on the Charlie Kirk show. And actually I don't think it's dramatic to state that this may be the first respectable measure taken by Turning Point USA Executives since the passing of Charlie Kirk that like the first respectable response. And yeah, I thought that that was, I I will, I will compliment that. Just the action of Andrew Covet addressing it head on instantly was good. So let's hear Andrew Cove in his own words,

4 (14m 16s):
But I wanna take the start of this show to address some of the things that have been going around on public, namely about a text, a group text chain that has been made, known and released by Candace Owens. And I just wanna address it head on because you know, that was a text grab, a screen grab that I had shared with people. So it, it is authentic and I want to go into it because I actually am really excited that the, the truth is out there. I first wanna say the reason I haven I didn't share that screen grab publicly is because it was a private, it was a private exchange and I felt like it didn't necessarily comport with things that were already public.

4 (14m 58s):
I wanted to not betray my friend's trust in that way, but I did share it with some people in government because it happened really quick. It was, you know, it took 33 hours for authorities to get their suspect. And in that first, in those first moments, we wanted no stone unturned. We wanted to leave nothing unturned. So I shared it with a few people don't know where it went from there apparently, but here we are. So one of the reasons, Blake, that I'm glad to have this now public, it was not mine to share publicly, but you know, one of the criticisms we've been, we've received is that we don't care. We're not investigating every lead. We're not looking under every stone.

4 (15m 40s):
And that somehow we're just like, you know, sweeping things under the rug. And when I say that we want justice for Charlie more than anybody else, I really mean it. And no stone unturned. I mean, I, I don't know if you wanna chime in on that part alone, but I have more to say.

5 (15m 54s):
Yeah, I, so it's, it has been so frustrating to have people blow up about this. Yeah. And you know, we've stated, I've certainly stated publicly the reason I haven't waited on things is I am an eyewitness to events and they've said don't comment on things because anything you say sure can mess that up. I don't want to mess up any trial for the person who

4 (16m 13s):
Did this. Well that's, that's a thousand percent right. And, and I will say I wasn't an eyewitness, I was not there. I flew to Utah immediately to be with the family and the team, but I was not an eyewitness. So there's that. But I am aware that in my role as spokesman for Turning Point USA, which is another hat I wear, the things I say, I'm cognizant of the fact that things I say could negatively impact an ongoing investigation. All right? But I will weigh in specifically on this, this issue of Israel. 'cause I know there's a lot of fascination and I just wanna say that, you know, we have to let free speech be our north star here, okay, Charlie was adamantly free speech.

4 (16m 56s):
And I am not personally going to impugn anybody's character who is asking questions and looking for answers. All right? And I will say that that text chain is consistent with public frustrations that he voiced many times. And I know Blake, you were in the trenches on a lot of this stuff 'cause we were workshopping how we were gonna do the tour and what we was, you know, he was gonna get asked about Israel, what he was gonna say. And this is consistent with things that he told his friends, people that are, you know, in the, in the water wider movement about his wrestle that he was going. And So I just wanna say like, what is the truth about the way Charlie felt about Israel? Well, it's complicated and it's nuance and it was a wrestle that was going on for months and it's probably somewhere between the BB letter and the text.

0 (17m 45s):
So what do we think? Okay, obviously you can tell he's anxious. You can tell he's, he's nervous speaking about this. I am sure it was positively frantic at Turning Point USA yesterday. I am sure he had very little sleep and like I say, never the fun thing to be the spokesperson and also to be involved in the story. I can tell you right off the bat, he is telling the truth. He was not the person who shared that message with me. He also should know that he was not the only person who sent that message and sent messages around. So there are a lot circulating some videos that are circulating and yeah, that's, he's being honest about that portion. I personally, as someone who knows Andrew Colby, I wanna, I wanna express how I feel I hold it against him actually, that he didn't share it with me.

0 (18m 31s):
He knew I've cried on the phone with Andrew, he knew how I was feeling and then I went under a, a very, well, you could say a Blitzkrieg, right? A, a heavy bombardment from people who he knows hated Charlie, who tried to stop Charlie, people who had no issues showing up to his memorial. I mean really gross stuff who were attacking me. And he could have at least provided some cover. Now I'm, I'm not saying that I need help, but sometimes it's nice to offer somebody a lifeboat when they're being attacked for telling the truth, right? So I do wanna say that also, I'm glad that Andrew responded correctly. 'cause I was, I was going to say this, when Blake's like, well, you know, the investigation's ongoing, that text message has nothing to do with an investigation whatsoever.

0 (19m 15s):
It has to do with the broader question of people feeling that Charlie's legacy is intentionally being hijacked by Israel. I never stated that Israel killed Charlie. Anybody that's been watching this investigative series, we've come up, I mean there hasn't even been an Israeli name that has popped up in this investigation. There's only been one Jewish person I think that's popped up thus far in this investigation, which is George Zinn decoy boy. So they're just saying that, they're just saying that, I just wanted to say that he was under a tremendous amount of pressure. Now, regarding the other things that are circulating that have not been publicized yet, and people should know that there is an underground movement of truth tellers in this moment.

0 (19m 57s):
Okay? There is an underground movement of knights all around the world from mom sleuths to government employees, like he said, to personal assistance to Turning Point USA donors who are working together to bring justice to Charlie because we don't like the way this feels. Usually, like the way it feels, the vibes are off. I will respect, even though obviously that statement was prepared, I will respect the fact that Andrew says what Charlie would have said. And for the first time, I feel that's been expressed that we have to let free speech be our North Star. And I'm not so sure that the people, some of the people that are donating to Turning Point USA believe that. In fact, I'm certain some of them don't believe that.

0 (20m 38s):
Obviously we wouldn't have that text message if they all believed that. And that is what I think is, has been so frustrating is that it seems as though the executives would rather, and I'm now referring to Tyler Boyer impugned, the character of the people who are doing exactly what Charlie Kirk would've done. So please, Andrew, make sure that Tyler Boyer and Alex Clark get the internal memo about free speech. I wanna say one more thing rather explosively, three people told me off record, two people who have this in a written communication from Charlie, one who was a Turning Point USA donor, and I would say very much one of the White Knight in this, the very day before Charlie Kirk died, he expressed that he thought he was going to be killed.

0 (21m 32s):
He told these people, I think they're going to kill me. Okay? He had not expressed that to me. So I'm telling you this, based off the testimony of free people, and I am saying this because I hope that these people who I think are good will be inspired to come forward with that. Again, those conversations I had were off record. I honor that if I say it's off record, it days off record, but I'm hoping that watching what I am doing and feeling the energy that is rising across the world, for people who want to know what the heck happened on nine 10, that you know, they will be brave and they will say, yeah, Charlie did the day before he died, think that he was gonna be killed and maybe tell us who is they? Well for once and for all.

0 (22m 12s):
Who is they? Who is the they that he thought was were going to kill him? Now to answer, to give the obvious answer to federal informant Nick Fuentes question, the reason that I waited to reveal the text messages is because I'm not a child, okay? Like I said, I have a lot more, I'm an idiot and I have self-control and I understand that time is always going to be on the side of truth. Time is on the side of truth. Liars know that that's the reality. Liars know that they have to speak quickly, that they have to speak repeatedly. And I wanted the world to truly understand just exactly what it is that we are up against, okay? People that I de to be mentally and spiritually evil, okay?

0 (22m 56s):
Evil in the true essence of the word evil. People who knowingly lied, instantly lied, repeatedly, lied and continued to do so without a trace of shame, okay? Without a trace of shame. I mean that right? I I really do mean it when I say that you have to be someone that is, or maybe rather someone that is possessed by something that is less than human subhuman to do that there's no, there's no humanity in you. That is why I named Josh Hammer. I believe he's a deeply disturbed man. Think about that. Now that you have those messages, okay, let's put this in the context.

0 (23m 38s):
Just a few hours before I dropped that text change, Josh Hammer was, you know, was concerning himself with what he's been doing since Charlie caught the bullet in his neck, he has been spreading lies, saying that Charlie never flinched on Israel, right? Charlie never flinched. Oh my God, these people like get us, they're lying. 48 hours before Josh Hammer was on that text thread and that did not stop him from keeping up the propagandist effort. When he went on a show yesterday before I dropped the messages and said this,

6 (24m 11s):
Charlie was a, was was a close friend of mine, as you know, we actually spoke literally the night before his tragic and untimely death. I was on a small zoom call with him and a couple others. We, we were literally talking through this topic. I, I was giving Charlie advice for how to message on this issue on, on his forthcoming campus tour. You know, he kind of jokingly mentioned to me, he was like, Josh, I'm gonna mention your book Israel and Civilization and it's so good. And that was literally our last conversation. It, it just, it's just so tragic. This letter that he wrote to the Prime Minister Chris, I read back in June or July or so, and, and, and, and there were so many people in the aftermath of, of his horrific assassination, Candace Owens, folks like that, who were saying that, oh, Charlie Wa was turning on Israel, he was ready to sell them out and renounce hi his life's work o of, of sincere and genuine friendship with the Jewish people in the Jewish state.

6 (24m 57s):
But this letter that he wrote to Bibi Netanyahu, Chris literally begins, the first sentence of the letter is, I'm paraphrasing here, but it's a close paraphrase. As a Christian, one of my greatest joys in life is making friendships with the Jewish people and defending the state of Israel. That's literally the opening sentence of this letter

0 (25m 16s):
Filth, okay? Absolute filth. I I don't understand it, I can't comprehend it. I, this, whatever that is, that lives in him, does not live in me. There was no truth in him. Obviously there was no truth in Josh Hammer. He could have said, well, Charlie was going through 48 hours earlier. Yeah, he, he, he didn't, he refused to do that. And in fact, I'm quite alarmed with what I know that there are three people who said that Charlie communicated 24 hours before he died, that he thought they were going to kill him. Now I find it rather alarming that Josh Hammer is similarly saying, oh, the night before, so you spoke to him the night before. Did he communicate that to you? Josh Hammer? Did he, I'm interested, I know we won't get answers from you, but let me promise you that if I get a text message to the effect that you were somehow involved in him feeling anxiety the day before, if you did something that gave him anxiety in that way, I will release it instantly.

0 (26m 14s):
There'll be no place that you can hide Anyways, I want you guys to know that I was feeling so inspired by Josh Hammer's utter lack of human decency. And I went ahead this week and sent around a life insurance policy of sorts, of sorts, a package rather, to people that I trust, a package filled with text messages, emails, private communications videos, and private legal documents. So if anything happens to me, you guys, guys will know exactly who it is that has been making my life a living hell over the past couple of years. People that are trying to bankrupt me, trying to bankrupt me and my family that are threatening us to sue us.

0 (26m 55s):
Everything that Kanye said was so real, okay? I now at that point where you look back and you go, man, Kanye was right, he was really saying something about what it takes to leave, you know, to fight for custody of your own soul. Just leave me alone. Let me say what I believe and you say what you believe fight fair. Why do you always have to make this threat to bankrupt people? And I want you to know that those people, if anything happens to me, they have my explicit permission to release it all, detonate it all, expose all of these people in politics and in the movement who behave like this behind the scenes. It's necessary. And I highly recommend every single person that is out there and has a platform and is going through things and scared, do the same.

0 (27m 38s):
Send everything around to about eight people that you trust. And I mean, I I've ranged it, I sent it to journalists, text messages and screenshots to people ranging from Max Blumenthal to Andrew Tate. They won't know where it's coming from. It will be everywhere. I wanna remind you guys in the wake of all of this, that it is so important to keep trusting our guts. We have been proven right so many times in the recent past, right? Whether we're speaking about COVID, people that had to actually take a stance before people were then suddenly government, oh, admits, oh yeah, we were lying, we were lying, but they were lying about that. We feel it All right now, the feds are lying.

0 (28m 20s):
That is beyond obvious, which is why I was very happy to hear former Ry Seal, Rob O'Neill explain this plainly when he went on PI's Morgan's show the other day. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

7 (28m 35s):
Me. I mean, it it, it was off it right from the beginning for me. It it from, do we not guard rooftops anymore? There's been assassinations, assassination attempts all over the world, right? Why aren't we looking at rooftops? And then when I was sent the, I was sent the video with the, at the same message where they said Charlie Kirk was just shot when I watched that horrific video, he was obviously dead before he hit the ground, but the questions immediately started to come to me. That wa that was not an entry wound that we saw. We saw an exit wound. So where'd that bullet come from? You don't bleed like, and I've shot guys closer than the camera was and an an exit, an entry wound doesn't look like that. An exit wound does. Why did his shirt move the way it did when I've shot people there? Their shirts didn't move like that. And then the initial re reaction was, well he was obviously wearing body armor and it was deflection one, no he wasn't wearing body armor and two, it doesn't deflect like that off of Body Armor.

7 (29m 24s):
Why was his shirt moving from right to left? Why were people being interviewed saying, yeah, they came from my left to right, from his right to left, immediately shut down. And then did they tear the crime scene down immediately, just right off the bat from seeing it, knowing he was dead, saying a lot of this is is bad. Not even getting into the, the soliloquy of text messages that 22 year olds don't send their trans lover. So immediately it's just, it, the, the, the official story sounds like it needs to be investigated but now you know the whole crime scene's gone. They paved over it. Nothing to see here.

0 (29m 56s):
You just have to laugh. The soliloquy of the text messages that 22 year olds do not send their lovers. Yes, that's kind of the main point guys. We have been working off a a lot of tips And so much more is going to be exposed and we're gonna get into that more tomorrow. I do wanna give you a quick update on Lance twigs and like I said, we know that the feds are lying to us. The question is why are the Feds lying to us? The answer is always the same. The Feds only lie to cover their own tracks. They are protecting themselves and their bosses. Who are their bosses? Who is they? And anyways, always take a big a little bit of a break here 'cause I want to read some sponsors. First and foremost, Riverbend Ranch will tell you guys about them all the time.

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0 (34m 55s):
What actually happened on nine 10? We don't know and we are still working through a a ton of the tips related to what happened. But I wanna tell you that I maintain, I actually believe that this was a military hit that involved foreign actors and also literal actors. I believe that that day ran something akin to JFK's assassination. I believe that there were the for multiple decoys on the ground, I do not believe, just so I'm clear here, that the person who was walking up the stairs killed Charlie.

0 (35m 37s):
In fact, my suspicion is that that photo was not even shot on the same day. I do not believe that the person who ran across Lowy Rooftop killed Charlie. I think it was another decoy. I do not believe that shot came from a Lowy center at all. And I obviously we all know that decoy George Zi didn't kill Charlie and I received an interesting tip about him as well that he's much more connected than what meets the surface. He potentially has connections to the federal department, familial connections to the federal department and we are prodding that. It's getting interesting. Anyway, that would suggest that there are thus four, a total of four decoys like George Zinn, staircase guy, maroon shirt guy and Lowie Center guy.

0 (36m 23s):
None of which I believe actually pulled the trigger. Call it a hunch, I think it's much more likely that Lance Twigs is the one that is walking in that maroon shirt. His build is nothing like Tyler Robinson's build. Lance Twigs is thinner and obviously I'm speculating here, but I believe Tyler Robinson was involved and he was in fact driving around campus on that day, therefore assisting in the costume changes, likely picking up clothing. And as we broke the story, Tyler was seen at Dairy Queen and what was he seen doing? As I told you, dumping clothing in the cemetery beside that Dairy Queen.

0 (37m 4s):
So I think that is what his involvement is limited to. That was his job to get rid of clothing. It's completely a nonsense to think that a person who had never killed anyone was high on adrenaline after a kill and decided to eat Dairy Queen. That doesn't even make sense. Biologically speaking, there was gonna be an adrenaline measure that kicks in after you kill animal yet alone, A person yet alone having it be your first kill and you're like, he just decided to go to dq, sit down, write some poetic text messages. It's why they're freaking out about that Dairy Queen leak because it disrupts their narrative. One of many things that disrupts their narrative.

0 (37m 45s):
But what about Lance Twigs, right? This roommate man, something about him, the roommate of Tyler Robinson is I think federally protected. I especially think that because we learned some more interesting facts about him. So I feel confident, or I shouldn't say completely confident, but I feel like it's okay to venture a guest that he is a federal asset of some description could be related to his online work on discord chats. It's the only thing that makes sense to me anyways, I can tell you guys, I can break this for you, that the government, and this would implicate Governor Cox and whoever else was a part of that press conference the morning after the 33 hours after they apprehended Tyler Robinson.

0 (38m 31s):
The government lied when they said Lance, you know I'm obviously paraphrasing here. He came in peacefully. He handed over everything. I mean the whole depiction was like, he was just so shocked that his boyfriend could do something like this. And so he handed over everything according to his family. That's just not true. According to his family, he was raided and he was angry about that raid and yet he was instantly released back into their care within six hours. Isn't that something? They had no idea what was happening. They were going off of Mike the the mysterious detective, Mike Mitchell's tip. They had no confession.

0 (39m 13s):
They have Tyler Robinson walking in peacefully 'cause he doesn't wanna die. And you're telling me Lance Twigs, for whatever reason you released him immediately back into custody. No, they lied. He was not being compliant and walking in and showing them everything. Something else that was interesting. We had told you guys that Tyler's family thought that there could have been something weird going on with that raid, that perhaps the feds could have been staging that apartment to fit into their narrative. Now the feds are staging this entire operation, so that would follow that. If you're trying to get a conviction, you gotta be like, and we found this in his house, the note underneath the keyboard.

0 (39m 56s):
So convenient, but he destroyed it. He took a picture of it but then he destroyed it because if everybody knows if you wanna destroy something so it never sees a light of day, he took a picture of it. So it lives forever in the iCloud. Anyways, we were told by Lance's family that who by the way own the apartment that the two of them lived in that Tyler and Lance lived in. We were told that somebody illegally changed their locks on the home following the raid, obviously illegal. They were not informed that the locks were being changed. So it gives us two options. It was either Lance or it was the feds. I was wondering like, you know, if you're Lance and you really got swept up in this and you're so shocked that Tyler Robinson did this is, are you speaking to your family about that?

0 (40m 43s):
My gosh, I'd imagine you'd want to speak to your family. No, no. It seems Lance has similarly been in an unknown unknown location since the raid. I would imagine he was in witness protection for a bit, but he doesn't, he doesn't need family. He feels, I would say that suggests that he's pretty arrogant right now in this moment. He's not fearful of anything. Like I said, the sense I am getting is we are watching a play, right? The government has us completely distracted with photos of people who are not even the same person. I never, for a second thought, the person that was in the maroon shirt was the same as the person that was walking with the limp. It, it's completely foolish and ridiculous.

0 (41m 23s):
I can also tell you something else. We received a tip which I vetted that's on the day of assassination. You know, immediately George Zinn gets up and says, I did it, I did it, I did it. And he kinda gets dragged. Well apparently George Zinn had to receive medical treatment following that little fracas and he told multiple nurses and doctors that he did it because he was being paid to do it. He said he had not been paid yet, but he was going to receive payment. He didn't know from who. That's interesting.

0 (42m 5s):
Decoy boy told medical staff multiple. He apparently he was just singing just like, just telling everybody who would listen and he did it because payment was going to be promised to him. If he did do it, what does that tell us? We should definitely dig into George Zinn. We should definitely try to confirm this relatively strong tip that he has connections to the feds because it would be very interesting if the feds were going to pay George Zinn. I'm not saying they are, but yeah. Why? Why wouldn't he know? I mean, make that make sense. Why wouldn't George Zinn know where the payment was coming from? Yeah. Anyways, you guys, we are on the case. I wanted to share that with you as some other explosive things that we have found out that the Feds have not shared.

0 (42m 49s):
Other people that they were questioning, that they did not share. People that similarly have been told to be quiet about everything. And let's be clear, they are not asking everyone to be silent because they are seeking a conviction against Tyler Robinson. They are telling everybody to be silent because they don't want to get caught. The beds are covering their own tracks. All Right guys, I wanna pivot here and I I wanna read you something. Well now I wanna be, I wanna be perfectly clear that despite all appearances over the last two weeks, it has been a very difficult time for me. Obviously normally when I'm covering a story I am bombastic and I feel brave and focused because I am speaking about someone that has nothing to do with me.

0 (43m 37s):
This has been particularly challenging because I had, and I still am very much grieving Charlie and waking up to the realization that not everyone is grieving him in the same way that he may have just been a political pawn to so many people that he loved deeply. I mean, it it, I'm gonna be honest, even Donald Trump's non-reaction not making any to bans for truth regarding this investigation deeply upsets me. Deeply upsets me. 'cause I know how much Charlie Kirk loved Donald Trump. So I was just So, I was happy it brought literal tears to my eyes when a donor from Turning Point USA Donor that actually then unlocked a whole another level of donations for Charlie Kirk through introductions that he made for Charlie and a donor who it's, it's I ironically, this is the very donor that when I said to Charlie, we need to be in the uk, we need to be in the uk.

0 (44m 34s):
And he was like, well, I know somebody who I could maybe have set up an event. We can start Turning Point uk. And that event was when I first laid eyes on George, not when I spoke to him, but when I actually first laid eyes on him, that donor issued a public statement and I think he will be the first of many donors that might make a public statement and he made this statement in my favor. This was written by him and his wife, two wonderful people, John and Irina Mappin. I'm just gonna read it because I think these words don't just eloquently express how I'm feeling, but I think these words eloquently might express how we are all feeling worldwide. Like I read this and I said to myself, I couldn't have written this better myself.

0 (45m 17s):
With all the time in the world, John and Irina Wright, Charlie Kirk built Turning Point USA on transparency, free speech and a relentless pursuit of truth. We are witness to that. If Candace Owens had been assassinated, Charlie would've torn apart every lie and devoted every working day and night to uncovering the full truth. He would not have trusted the authorities to deliver justice. He would've demanded it from the rooftops. Charlie would not have waited for the funeral or memorial to happen. He would've gotten to work immediately. He would have worked night and day to uncover exactly what had happened to his great friend. Consider this. Charlie did not sleep for several days and several nights just to ensure that JD Vance became the vice presidential nominee.

0 (45m 58s):
And although that job was supremely important for the country and its future, it was still ultimately simply helping to secure a job promotion. Candace is working to catch the truth of who killed Charlie Kirk and why they did it. Charlie's execution is an assassination with potentially far reaching political consequences for America and the world. What we have seen so far beggars belief, a crime scene apparently completely destroyed in days and plenty of evidence that simply does not add up this investigation and the truthful answer as to who was really responsible for deciding that Charlie would be executed in front of the world will affect America's future. Its collective soul and conscience forever. The truth when known and we believe it will be known, will have far reaching international consequences.

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The very idea that someone could be convicted and could receive the death penalty when there remains even the slightest shadow of doubt or shred of uncertainty, that they may not be guilty of that crime and that Christian souls would tolerate that possibility is anathema to all the teachings of Christ. If there were circumstances where a suspect or someone standing trial for murder did not have a clean opportunity to receive the very best and fairest legal representation to present their case and defense to the world, it would've been abhorrent to Charlie Kirk. It would go against every constitutional principle that he lived, fought and died for. Erica is in mourning. May God bless her and her family. Please give her and her family time to grieve.

0 (47m 24s):
Any civilized culture, Christian or otherwise allows a grieving widow 40 days of mourning to make peace with the Lord and to respect the departed. Those people who truly love her would gladly grant her all the space she needs. We certainly do, but we are growing rather sick and ashamed of seeing people criticize Candace for doing her level best to get to the bottom of and to the truth of what happened to Charlie on that day. You don't have to agree with Candace in every subject that she addresses on her shows to acknowledge that much of what she's presenting on the subject of Charlie's death is extremely concerning to America and to the world. Completely valid and very relevant to the investigation. She has an army of truth seekers worldwide who are helping her in her search and her research. This is a truly new and modern phenomenon that has never happened before.

0 (48m 8s):
This is not 1963 and boomers need to get used to it. In our view, the official investigation should be immediately ordered by the appropriate legal authority to proactively share everything they know with Candace and her selected team. That is if truth and real understanding of who decided to assassinate Charlie and why is the sincere objective that would go some way towards restoring public trust in the system. It is our view that her actions are not just the actions that any real friend would take for their friend. They are the actions of the highest order of patriotism. Candace's actions are service to the whole country and to the world. Beyond that, they're truly providential, divinely inspired and metaphysical. There is a relationship between truth and all living things.

0 (48m 51s):
There is a relationship between truth and God. Right now, turning Point USA is at a vital moment if we continue to witness the mistreatment and the suppression of a young woman and a mother of four young children who is doing everything she can to help get to the truth about who decided that her friend and fellow Freedom Fighter Charlie had to die. They will lose the country and the world in America will have lost one of its greatest living patriots. Only to see those factors against which he fought and died for win. Candace is extremely valid point that hers has so far been one of the only public voices from Charlie's closest friends. Questioning the absurdity of some of the communications regarding what happened and demanding clarity is well made and frankly that point alone is shocking to the world.

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We have been receiving calls from senior Republicans and from Turning point donors who agree with her all last week and they started up again this week. They agree with Candace, but seeing the attacks that she's experiencing, they're terrified to voice their views publicly. Is that really where we are? In 2025? Few people following the matter believe the official version, the version, a low minority believe that the current suspect is guilty. That statistic alone is an awful commentary on the state of the official investigation. The world wants truth. The world, Charlie and those who truly loved him and knew his purposes certainly deserve justice. But justice needs not just to be done, it needs to be seen to be done justly.

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I'm gonna read that sentence again 'cause it's very powerful. Justice needs not just to be done, it needs to be seen to be done justly. It must be truthful, it must be fair, and it must be clean. If there are videos, show them. If there is evidence, show it. The world is not going to accept anything less. This is not about who is right or wrong or whose theory is correct. Kansas' investigation is about actually getting to the truth. Whatever that truth is. If the current theory for the shooter is truth and okay that is a lie, then we need to know every episode of Candace's Show Since Charlie died or her heartfelt emotional tribute to her, her exceptional journalism has been incredible and anyone who cares for the truth and who wants to know who killed Charlie for real should watch every episode in its sequence.

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The fact is that we are being told as his friends or simply as people who had never heard of Charlie Kirk before. His assassination simply does not make sense to the vast majority, it feels like gaslighting. It feels like we are being lied to. It is not hard to tell the truth to the public or to present the clear facts that illustrate the truth. Clearly, many extremely ethical people helped to build turning point in all associated groups. Turning point action and turning point Faith. Many of these people are existing and potential future donors. We know many of them ethical people will not stand for lies or injustice either privately or publicly. The existing and future donors who are friends of Charlie's and those he loved deserve no less. But please spare us the absurd and evil suppression of suggesting that Candace should not be doing exactly what she's doing.

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She's doing no more and no less than what her friend Charlie would've done for her. Her actions are far more reasonable and experienceable and an assassin's bullet to the throat consider for a moment the evil of possibly allowing the conviction of a potentially innocent party with the death penalty. We can only begin to imagine the wrath of God and how upset Charlie will be if an innocent man were to be executed for his assassination. And what Ill fortune would befall a Christian country and the individuals that would allow this. In this sense, Christianity and a leading Christian democracy are now on trial. There's a special place in eternity reserved for those who would allow such an injustice.

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A turning point in Charlie left in charge, a turning point in those who Charlie left in charge failed to stay true to the principles and purposes on which Charlie founded it and with which he and Candace originally breathed life into it. During its formative years, then Turning Point will end up like MySpace. It'll become just one more ineffective and rather dull has been activity. I believe that God has other plans for Charlie and for his legacy. A coverup of the truth is not, in my view, part of God's plans. I believe that people of goodwill from all over the world will in will ensure that. Keep going. Candace, Charlie is walking with you every step of the way. He loves you deeply and you are right about your friendship with him. Never at any time through all the challenges that the political arena and life brought, did he ever withdraw his friendship from you, Candace, you are, you are an eternal cornerstone in his life and his legacy.

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What a great friend you are being to him. We are all witness to that, all of our love, John and Arena. Oh, it's gonna make me cry again. It's just like, I really needed it. I know, I just really needed it. Like, it's just, I feel like I kind of went through a process where I was going, like in those two weeks following, was any of it real, you know, like I, when I expressed to you that I felt that Charlie's life was like the Truman show, and then I, I know that's how you guys felt because we were, we were just expecting a fight. We were just expecting a fight. And instead it seems like the very things that Charlie was fighting lies, no matter what they were, somehow were being platformed and allowed.

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So, thank you John. Thank you, arena. I cried last night reading that. I almost cried on air there reading it again. I, I needed it. So anyways, you guys, I'm gonna read a couple of more sponsors than I wanna get to all of your comments, some explosive things that we'll be revealing tomorrow. I'm really excited about everything. And also I wanna add to this, thank you guys, not just John and Arena for being the first donors that took a public stance, but before they did this, it was all of you guys at home. Truly, the tags fighting for me in the comments when I was being smeared, when they even tried to wipe away my friendship. Like she hasn't spoken to him since 2015. It was you guys, like you, this letter is, is for you. Every time he says Candace, he means all of us.

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So let's come together, stand for Life. Visit nimi skincare.com/life. All right, you guys. I'm glad I held it together. Glad I held it together. Reading that letter. First comment that we have is from Jennifer. Jennifer writes, do we know anything about the security team that was supposed to keep Charlie alive? I do. I have everybody's names. The people that we couldn't identify. Jennifer continues so many questions since the MO was out there due to Trump, why wasn't this taken into consideration? Were drones offered and or declined? Did they do a drill run through that morning? Amir Odom. Hey, what's up? Thank you. You have a great, he has a great YouTube channel, Amir Odom.

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He writes, before we judge Candace for thinking that there's hidden agendas, we have to admit history has given her every reason to absolutely there are, this is political politics is a nasty business. Amir, as you know, you know you are a friend of someone who's in politics. Brett Cooper, Corey Henry writes, give me the Kool-Aid in a juice box. LMAO regarding Ashton Forbes. Cult comment. Yeah, it was totally crazy. I don't know what I like. Yeah, maybe we're in a cult of truth. I don't know. Like what, what's it called? Maybe Christianity. I mean like, I wanna tell the truth. So there's that. Sarah d writes, keep going. Candace, love from Australia. Thank you Sarah. Steve writes A major victory in defending Charlie's true legacy.

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We stand with you, Candace. The truth will come out when it does, it will shake the foundations of the world. I believe it. You believe it. We all believe it. John and Arena believe it. We feel it. You know, like we're fighting. And it, it feels, there's a finality to it. Like this had to happen. And the demons are frantic and they're angry. And I only have a platform because I keep telling the truth. You know, if I had lied, if I had sold my soul, which many people have done, I I wouldn't have earned your trust. And so yeah, it comes at a cost. It certainly comes at a cost. Last two weeks have been very hard, but it also comes at an even more amazing reward.

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Justine Lowe writes, as soon as you said he was betrayed, I knew it was true. My female intuition at work brought me to tears and prayed for your safety. Thank you. He was, he was. RN Explorer writes, thank you for fighting for the truth. I believed you from the beginning. I'm crying as you read that letter. I'm glad you cried, not me, because I was like, not twice in the same year am I gonna be caught crying. But yeah, you are laying your life and fighting for the truth for your friend. Amy writes, most holy theists, bless and protect the handmade of God. Candace and her family, Candace, so many of us in the Orthodox Christian community are praying for you.

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Lord have mercy on us all. Yep. You know, it's, and it has also been great to feel the Orthodox and the Catholic energy rising. And I, and I wanna be clear, I'm not saying that as a potshot to other domination, but it feels like for a lot of, there's been a lot of persecution and a lot of this for some reason has involved, as I showed you yesterday, you know, pastors that have been a part of this like part of spreading these lies. And that is, it's not good. It's just not good to have pastors using the Bible to lie. It's just not okay. Maheen Sidiki writes, I think it would be interesting to do a deep dive into how the term Judeo-Christian came about. I'm aware of it.

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It seems to be a very convenient word for Israel. I don't think any of the core values or their views on Jesus are shared. It definitively is not. And you know, we inherited it. We were all in public schools. We all thought the same thing. I was working for Zionist entities So I don't fault us our ignorance. That is how the deception is, is thick. You know, and we're finally piercing through that layer for the first time. Well, Wallace writes, decoy boy, please reach out to Candace's people for the t gang. Gang is inquiring. We feel like we know, but we don't know now. Right. I agree. Elda, MJ writes, rooting for you from Malaysia and praying for your safety.

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You are so brave. Thank you. Donna writes, I'm not crying, you're crying, Candice. I know you were crying. I felt the Holy Spirit in every word that you press today. Godspeed and may, the May he bless you eternally for what you are doing, the potential sacrifice of your life and those around you. Yeah. I think we have to be brave. And I'm a real Christian. I know that this life is not it. I know it's not it. And in fact, people I know have intentionally been trying to convince us that this is it. So that they can further commit you to their matrix to get you to agree, to sell your soul, to get you to agree to lie. Because you're so worried about things that are in this world. I, I know that Charlie Charlie's soul was removed from his body and I know that he's watching and I keep that in mind when it gets hard.

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I keep in mind that Charlie is watching. I know, I feel that he's with me and he's proud that somebody who cared about him is fighting boredom, took over, right? You are literally my spirit animal and have given me the motivation to push forward on my dream. Charlie is so proud of you. Love, please don't give up on us. And these fakes should be scared. You are the storm. Thank you. We are the storm. 'cause I'm telling you, I could not do it without you guys and my family. And they've just been amazing. Luna writes, Charlie also told Dr. Frank Turk right before his death when they were having a convo about upping his security that Charlie knows, quote unquote, they want him dead. Frank shared this on his podcast following Charlie's death. That makes four. He knew he would know, he, he knew he was gonna be killed.

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Who did he think was going to kill him? That's the question. And I'm glad to hear that Frank Turk shared that. Linda writes, girl, you made me cry. God bless you and praying for you. Abe Maria, thank you. John in arena made me cry. So it's really their fault. If you ought to be angry at anybody, you can be angry at jotted arena for writing that. It just, I, I did, I I felt the Holy Spirit in those words. I really did. I, it's how we're all feeling Turtle. Mama writes, I enjoy listening to your content and I feel so at peace with the information that you share as truth. Sending prayers for Mississippi and stay safe. Thank you so much, turtle Mama. We're all actually doing this thing. So thank you guys for supporting me on this journey. Thank, thank you for all of you guys that have signed up at Candace Owens dot com.

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Bought yourself a hat, a t-shirt, joined our CIA, that decentralized, which is more of a threat by the way. If it's centralized, you can just whack it. If it's decentralized, it's everywhere. And that's why I sent out that little packet to people that I trust that I sent screenshots to Max. I'm like everyone who is threatening me behind the scenes, all that stuff, losing lawfare to threaten me or speech like we're now all attached. Okay? So there we go. I recommend that everybody does that. Send it to people on the left, send to people on the right. I I love that. People on the left and right are finally coming together. Can I say that as well? Gosh, we are over time for the book club. Hopefully people are on this so they know why we're late to the book club, which we have tonight as we begin this introduction to this book, which they will not reprint.

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What is a must read, Sigmund Freud and the Jewish mystical tradition. So anyways, you guys, I'll see you over on Candace Owens dot com.

10/6/25
TPUSA Wants Us To Stop Asking Questions About 9/10?! | Candace Ep 248


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Happy Monday everybody. Today we are going to discuss, or rather I'm going to introduce to you a psychological strategy that I refer to as David Hoggin, somebody. You guys remember David Hogg of the Parkland shooting tragedy? Of course you do. Well it seems like Turning Point USA is now engaging in this strategy of David hogging the public. And I wanted to be clear that is downright manipulative and I've really had enough of it. Frankly, what happened over the weekend is that their TP action, COO, Tyler Boyer went on a little bit of an X binge. I don't recommend it, which was then highlighted by Alex Clark who has a show over there on Instagram and I think it's therefore fair for us to turn our attention back to them.

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So Welcome back to Candace. So lemme put it to you this way. I'll give you a different scenario. If at this very moment McDonald's publicly announced that their CEO was stepping down and they were going to replace him with somebody else, nobody would care, right? That there's not going to be any public outcry about them doing that. The average person doesn't even know who the current CEO of McDonald's actually is.

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But however, giving a different scenario, if out of nowhere McDonald's announced that they were getting rid of the Big Mac, that they were changing their french fries and they're doing away with their chicken nuggets, there would probably be a reaction to that. People would be pretty angry. It would probably start trending. And it's because the reality is nobody actually cares about the corporate structure. But if you change the menu items, that actually changes the substance of the company for people. A very recent example of that, by the way, is the Cracker Barrel scandal, which was hilarious, but it was a good point for everybody to learn, right? Corporate over at Cracker Barrel, effed around. And they found out pretty quickly that that old man on the logo, that inanimate old man that was with the cracker and the barrel, actually had more meaning to the public than their entire corporate division.

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They were ready to just walk away from it all because they got rid of the old man and his barrel. Now, I raised this only to say that I have seen multiple political organizations within recent years, especially when money starts pouring in, right? There's this like arrogance that sets in and they start to delude themselves into pol believing that they're smarter than their customers. That they're smarter than their audience, so to speak, right? Like the magic is actually the corporate structure audiences, I wanna be very clear, will catch a vibe pretty quickly. Audiences are smart, they're perceptive, they will sense when something is off. And the harder that you try to convince them that their senses are not real and that they are imagined, the more obvious it, it actually becomes to them that their suspicions are correct.

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Something's not right. Now, to just keep up with the same analogy, Charlie Kirk was essentially the old man on the Cracker Barrel logo. People were invested in Charlie Kirk. We have at this moment no definitive understanding of what happened on the day that he was assassinated. But what we do know definitively is that the feds are lying to us. That is obvious. It is abundant if you have a, if you're able to think thoughts, you recognize that something is very wrong with the story that has been presented to the public. And I think that what the public doesn't understand and I count myself among the public, is why it seems as though turning point USA executives and I'll say seems are not even remotely interested in challenging that official narrative.

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They're not interested in challenging it publicly, at least. In fact, I think it was an ex-US that pointed out, he put it rather bluntly when he said, so they want us to forgive Tyler Robinson, but to attack the people that are trying to solve the murder of Charlie Kirk. Like, that's not right. It doesn't feel right, it doesn't feel good of threats of lawsuits. We're collecting evidence of what, what are we even talking about? And I wanna say that what's been bothering me in particular are the micro lies. It seems that they're suddenly in the business of telling micro lies. Tiny little misrepresentations, tiny little half truths that right out of the gate seems altogether unnecessary.

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It really makes me wonder who are they protecting exactly. You'll see oftentimes they and other influencers will invoke Erica as the reason that it's not appropriate to ask questions. It's just not appropriate. While Erica is still mourning for you guys to ask any questions, and I'm just gonna come back at you with some common sense, what sort of widow wouldn't want people to investigate the assassination of their husband? She has not explicitly said that, but the influencers are invoking that, right? They're invoking like you just, it's not appropriate right now for people to be asking questions. That's what I mean when I say they are David hogging us. Okay? You could also use another example, somebody that was on the right, Kyle Kho.

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What essentially means is that when a tragedy takes place, and we are all, we, we are emotional, our emotions are raw. Me especially, I think this was the first time where I couldn't really check my emotions. I I, I'm just now like moving out of the grief stage. There will be people that then will try to manipulate you, right? They will try to manipulate you by using that strategy of saying, well, it would be really wrong. It would be really wrong for you to look beneath this layer or to ask a question about this. And it, you know, it would be an injustice to Charlie Kirk's legacy really? If you really loved him, then you shouldn't do this. Okay?

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'cause the tragedy just happened and they did this David Hog, you're not allowed to question David Hog. Like he suddenly became an authority. And no matter what he said, we were kind of told by the journal journalist that it just made perfect sense and he should go to Harvard. And you know, obviously to the extent that anybody suffers and survives a a school shooting, I'm with you. And I think that that's totally fair. But then when you go beyond that, it starts to feel a little bit like you're emotionally manipulating us and that you're actually trying to silence people who have valid questions or criticisms or concerns. That strategy. Like I said, it worked on me in the beginning. I was definitely completely worked by it. And I was feeling like even though I knew that they were telling white lies, that I should just allow it and to instead focus my entire attention on just unpacking the federal lies.

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But you know what? Over the weekend I realized actually no lying. Full stop is weird. It's weird after a tragedy. It's weird after someone that you purport to be your best friend. You are so close. Why are you telling micro lies about that person? And actually by exposing those lies, perhaps it will reveal a bigger picture because what would motivate it? What would actually motivate it? Now I'll give you just one example here and we're gonna get into some, some stuff that's rather bum bombastic, if I'm being frank. But one example that I bit my tongue on a couple weeks ago was when influencers randomly went on a full attack, like full attack mode against me when I very casually you guys watching this series very casually mentioned that Catholics were hoping that Charlie was gonna take the next step and con and convert.

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Like of course I'm Catholic. Of course, what would be wrong with me sharing that? Everybody was sharing their stories about Charlie and the conversations they were having. But for some reason Candace saying, and I'll sum it up effectively, it was like two sentences. Charlie was going through some spiritual changes towards the end. Catholics were hoping that he'd take the next step 'cause he was praying the rosary. I never said he converted 'cause he didn't. That would've been dishonest. But people were somehow really angry. Somebody clearly hit the panic button. Suddenly a bunch of videos were being made disputing the narrative. People were going, I knew Charlie and he was truly evangelical to his core, blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I wanna tell you this, it felt coordinated. It felt fake, it felt unnecessary, but most importantly it was untrue.

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Okay? It wasn't true. And I'm going to share with you some more truth so that you can contextualize it. Charlie was attending Mass Weekly. He was sometimes even attending Mass Daily. He was not attending Pastor Rob McCoy's church, as I mentioned before. Yes, he was praying at the rosary. Charlie in fact was wearing the Saint Michael pendant when he died, okay? As has already been publicized. Erica took a Catholic bishop with her to pray over his body on the day that he died. These are all indisputable facts and it is also a fact which was presented by Meg Kelly that a few weeks before his death, Erica had a priest come over to pray over them when some witches thought it would be funny, whatever, to put a hex on him, okay?

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That's a lot of things that were happening behind the scenes. And the people at Turning Point USA knew those things to be true, okay? They knew everything that I just shared with you, they knew for a fact. So I was a bit astonished when Andrew Covet and Alex Clark similarly jumped in, in this inauthentic attempt to dissuade the idea that Charlie was softening on Catholicism. It read to me like just sheer hatred of Catholics for no reason at all. Here's what they said. I'll jog your memory. I want you to listen to this now in the context of all of the additional details that I just shared with you. Okay, take a listen.

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Was he becoming Catholic?

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No, but he really loved Catholic mass. He loved the ritual of it. He loved the beauty of old Catholic churches and the stained glass. And

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Him and Erica would go sometimes.

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Yeah, well, Erica's a cradle Catholic, but she ended up kinda like me. I grew up Catholic in first communion and went to Catholic high school, but then I ended up becoming a Christian in college through a Protestant church, through a non-denominational kind of more experience. It was actually a Presbyterian and then it was kind of non, non, non-denominational. And, and I think Erica kind of follows that same path. She and I share that

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Also by the way. I, I just want to draw attention to, she's posted a photo of her and Charlie and the kids in Mass before and somebody in the comment section said, oh, are you guys converting? And she said, no, we just like attending sometimes. Yeah. So she herself had said no

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Publicly. Yeah. And I think Charlie, one of, one of the things Charlie really hated worshiping in like a, a gym, you know, or a, some, some sort of kind of blank space that, that you just turn into church. I don't, there's no problem. He didn't have a problem with the, the act of that. He just didn't prefer it. And he loved, again, the ritual, the ancient, you know, feel of a Catholic mass and the fact that everybody around the world that was worshiping is a is Catholic. He loved, he loved that. So he had some really big theological hangups with that. You can go check the videos out. Him debating with Michael Knowles, you know, in good fun, I mean they were dear friends, but they loved kind of debating the whole Protestant versus Catholic thing.

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Now given everything that I've, I've shared with you, does that conversation register as like totally and completely authentic or kind of trying to be like, yeah, no, like he loved the architecture of things, but beyond that nothing was happening. Like that's not, that's not fully honest. And it registered to me like a coverup of sorts. And I was wondering like, what are we exactly covering up? Like I wasn't going Catholic gang, gang wasn't trying to bring back a 30 years war. I was just sharing the communications that I had with him. And now I felt like suddenly so many people were racing to establish that his legacy was anything but Catholic. Catholic, right? Like he was super de duper Judeo Christian. And ironically it was Judeo-Christian that I was challenging him on personally, like privately.

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And I was speaking to him about the political pressures of it, the way that I felt because of last year that it registered to me like more of a cult than a true theology or a religion or a religious aspect rather. And it was back in February of this year when out of nowhere, he's the one that actually messaged me and said, I'm sorry of, of, and said, Catholicism is sounding better and better in February of 2024. This is kind of when we started having that discussion. We should chat soon. Catholicism is looking better and better. Okay? I then offered back to him a chart just showing how the phrase Judeo Christianity kind of is really associated with the dawn of the nation of Israel, right?

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And we did chat about it, we chatted about, talked about it a lot. And I was thrilled, like I said, and I was being honest that he was attending Mass. Okay? But I wanna again state that Charlie was not attending Robin McCoy's church. He was attending Mass. So it registered to me again as somewhat disingenuous when Pastor Rob McCoy came out and effectively asked me to, you know, stop looking into all of the things that had happened in the lead up to Charlie Kirks assassination, or at least asking me to pause. It rather would be more fair of an interpretation until the memorial, right? I'm gonna jog your memory here. Here is what pastor Rob McCoy wrote on his Instagram after I exposed the now infamous Hamptons meeting, which took place. He wrote this, Charlie Kirk was my friend and I was his pastor.

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I wanna simply say this regarding Candace Owens. Charlie Kirk was a friend to Candace and never Pope publicly spoke poorly of her, although he disagreed with her. He never operated nor entertained gossip or innuendo concerning Candace. My only comment I offer regarding Candace is this, I only wish that at this tragic time of mourning, she would be the friend to Charlie that he was to her. He would never have treated Candace or her family in such a way had God forbid this tragedy been hers. All friend loves at all times. Proverbs. Now I wanna be very clear, if Charlie was a friend of mine, I sure hope if I was assassinated in front of the world, that he would, that he would raise hell to figure out what actually took place in that day. That's not being a friend. A friend is not someone who stays silent when lies are being told by the federal government.

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That's not a friend. Again, emotionally manipulative. The family can't have you finding out who actually killed him. The family can't have you looking into those things of who was pressuring him behind the scenes. That's just, just, that's not good for the family. It bothers me. I have To be honest with you, that bothers me. I don't even like that to the untrained eye. He's kind of representing himself or representing Charlie as like a current congregant, congregant of his church. I feel like a lot this year I have been feeling as those as though these pastors are just not as honest as they should be, right? Is that the vibe? Like a lot of pastors are not really so concerned with the truth is what I would say.

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So we should zero in here on Rob and what his motivations might be, right? Why did he decide to post this after I revealed that Hamptons meeting? Well, you should know, I think most people do that both his son and his daughter-in-law work for Turning Point USA. So whether you wanna represent that or not, they have a financial stake in the future of the company. He heads up the faith division. So Charlie's faith and what direction it was going into would actually matter, right? It would actually matter if Charlie and I never said he was going to decided one day to become Catholic. It would have financial implications. I wanna be clear, I never had a conversation that that Charlie was in the process of converting. Okay?

0 (16m 5s):
But Rob in particular knew for an absolute fact that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him. That's what bothers me so much about this man, him allowing these headlines. Charlie's pastor speaks out, you know, crushes Candace because of what she so not, not whatever, I don't like it. He knew and others knew that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him. And I'm now going to present you proof of what I am saying. This is an actual group chat, which happened two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. There were nine people in total on this chat, including Charlie and Rob McCoy. I'm going to protect the names of the other seven for now.

0 (16m 47s):
To be clear, I might actually release a name every day this week, but I wanna show you this because suffice it to say Rob McCoy was on this text thread, and I think it helps contextualize him as a person in my view, that he would attack me for telling the truth about the pressure that he was facing. Take a look. So Charlie writes in this group chat, just lost another huge Jewish donor, 2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker, I'm thinking of inviting Candace. Somebody writes, Ugh, Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel.

0 (17m 29s):
Cause and somebody writes, a donor writes, please do not invite Candace. That might feel good short term, but it's not good long term in my opinion. Like all groups, you're going to get a wide variety of opinions. That nasty free will thing that God bestow on us makes life frustrating at times after the dust settles a bit maybe. So again, this is 48 hours before Charlie was assassinated. He was very clear and he was very explicit and he did not back down on in that Hamptons meeting, which they're all lying about, nor in this text thread, I'm not going to reveal the names of the other seven. Actually, you know what? I disagree with myself four seconds ago. Let's just throw in Josh Hammer for fun, Z he's on this chat. Okay, so what are we to make of that?

0 (18m 11s):
Okay, now that I'm showing you this and showing to you that the conversations were real, I want you to reflect, and it took me a lot of patience to allow the lies that were being woven and the misrepresentations of people that were pretending that I was just what high on lying about Charlie and the pressure he was under the attacks that not just me, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly faced for trying to stand up and tell the truth about what Charlie was actually going through. Why are you hearing it though from me and Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly? Isn't that weird? You got people that are hosting a show, have they in like one honorable thing come out and said like, you know what FA couple of these donors who made his life a living hell in the last couple of weeks?

0 (18m 54s):
Why haven't they done that? Also, a rabbi in that chat, like, why hasn't anybody made that move to at least say to vindicate what I have been saying about what he was going through? That registers to me as very suspicious. I'm gonna frankly say that it's suspicious to me. It makes me think that in the way, in the same way that Charlie was being pressured by money, that you might be now run by that same money, that those same donors might be running you to correct the ship and to focus yourselves on eulogizing Charlie as something and someone that never once flinched, never once for a single second doubted Israeli cause now they want us to suddenly believe the best way to honor Charlie is to shut up the exact opposite of what he quite literally laid down his life doing, answering questions, turning points, answering the questions is what he was doing in the second that he died.

0 (20m 3s):
Okay? And we all feel, we all are feeling spiritually the same way. So I'm just gonna say it, they're not grieving rights. It's not up to us to decide how people grieve, but I will say unequivocally that you shouldn't grieve by lying or by gaslighting. Is that fair? Can we all agree you should not grieve by lying and gaslighting the public? They want us to believe that the only way that we can support and honor Charlie's legacy is by donating our money, but it would not be supportive for us to try to figure out who killed him and why the feds are lying. We should instead just trust the feds and excuse their little half truths that they're telling along the way.

0 (20m 44s):
Now on that point, they keep trying to make it seem like it's completely normal, that four minutes after Charlie was shot, someone on their team nervously raced to grab the SD cards specifically from the camera that is behind Charlie's head. And that was because during that time they think it's like trying to make it normal. That is instinct was to stand on Charlie's chair to actually violate a crime scene, but also to mysteriously just grab the SD card out of the camera, right? Not only are they pretending that that was completely normal, but they're also presenting it as though it was a heroic act.

0 (21m 24s):
It was like a forthright, clarified act to do in that moment. And that anyone who uses their own eyes and sees it as maybe a little bit suspicious are just in the business of spending conspiracies. Now, that's exactly what was communicated by Andrew Cove when he sat across from Tucker Carlson who was hosting Charlie's show. And gratefully Tucker Carlson instantly responded with a much more sensible approach. Take a listen,

3 (21m 52s):
By the way, just one other conspiracy theory. I just wanna snuff out here. One of our dear friends that literally from the very beginning started with us and loved Charlie, like a brother, he grabbed the SD cards out of the camera afterwards and there's all these conspiracy videos about like, why did he grab the SD cards? Well, first of all, they're in the possession of the FBI, okay? It's not like he took them and like ran off with them. Second of all, I asked him personally, I said, why did you do that? And he looked at me and this was his answer. He said, because I know people can be evil. And he did not want that footage being grabbed by somebody.

3 (22m 32s):
There was videos of people after the incident going and stealing hats off the table. I mean, so I'm so grateful he did that and that that was his instinct. He's like, I'm depressed to know that that was why I did that. But I knew that I had to protect that footage because I know I wanted, I mean, you know, you're recording in like 4K, you know? And so I'm so glad he did that. But Charlie knew the existence of evil. And so, wait,

5 (22m 57s):
Can I just say, I think that people can feel the existence of evil and that just to put in a sympathetic word for people who are trying to make sense of this and coming to the wrong conclusions, I think they're motivated for the most part, by pure intent. I think they don't trust the authorities. They have every reason to feel that way. I know that for a fact, not the Trump administration in general, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not, you know, there's been a lot of lying and it's corroded the trust. That's not their fault actually. They're the victims

3 (23m 22s):
Of it. That's a good point. Thank you for saying that. And

0 (23m 25s):
Yeah, thank you Tucker, for saying that. And this is the reason why Tucker is so big, because he, he has this perspective. He understands like what the average person is thinking here, and the average person looks at that, and I think it's shady. And you know, saying that there was this heart wrenching moment where you were worried because people were stealing stuff on the table, but also you took the SD card out and not the very expensive camera, which is if you were worried about stealing and theft, maybe you would take the camera. But more importantly there is, he says that the feds that he, that he, he gave it to the Feds, right? And he doesn't insinuate obviously that they don't have the footage. Turning Point does have the footage. That's very clear. I saw partial partially the footage, which means it made it back home. Or maybe they had it back home because they were recording it live, whatever it is, it was being live streamed.

0 (24m 10s):
But what he said actually conflicts with what Tyler Boyer is about to say, what he said over this weekend, okay, Tyler Boyer, like I said, he's a COO of Turning point action. And he went on this kind of bender, worse kind of bender, Twitter bender, defending the organization. He thought he was defending them against public sentiments during which time he refutes what Andrew Kova is saying about the SD cards. Andrew says, turning point employee was worried about theft, but Tyler says that actually he was instructed to secure the SD cards before the campus went onto lockdown. Now here's the tweet So I can show you that somebody said, rightfully emotional manipulation and falsely equating scrutiny as some form of hate speech is not going to work here.

0 (24m 53s):
You and Covet admitted that the staff tampered with cameras and the most crucial video evidence in the largest political assassination in decades hiding Mason look guilty. And Tyler countered do, did not tamper with anything. Yes, he did. It's a crime scene. The law enforcement officers asked them to turn them over immediately so they didn't get lost in commotion before they took everyone into lockdown. Now, that is just not true. That is not true. What Tyler is saying is not true. I spoke to that turning point individual. I, as I told you, and he never once mentioned that police officers, I explicitly asked him, why did you take the SD cards out specifically of the camera behind? And the answer that I was given was sounded more like Andrew, what Andrew Colbett said.

0 (25m 38s):
You know, I was emotional. I I knew that Charlie was dead and my instinct he told me was to take, make sure that I secured the footage so that Erica would not have to see it again. Like he didn't want Erica to have to see it and have to relive it. That is what he said to me on the phone. Nothing about police officers. No one's ever heard, police officers asked them to secure the footage before lockdown until Tyler Boyer tweeted it this weekend. I don't like it. Okay? I just don't like it. Now, to be fair, Tyler is making it clear that he is responding to all of these tweets or exes, whatever we're supposed to call them, because there have been people he says that have flat out accused the organization of having a hand in Charlie's murder.

0 (26m 21s):
He doesn't share when or where exactly that happened. I think people feel you're being dishonorable by not questioning the narrative. But I don't, I don't, I haven't read anybody that's explicitly accused them of murder. In fact, the the tweets that he's responding to all seem to be pretty fair in my opinion. You know, now, regarding the missing campus footage, there is a user that begged Tyler to file an FOIA request. And that user wrote this, please, I beg you, focus on getting the security footage of the sequence pre jump off the low seat building where we can see Robinson in shot position and corroborate the story like file an F sorry, file an FOIA, get that footage, keep it simple.

0 (27m 8s):
And he responds and he says, guys, there's camera footage all over that campus that the police have, plus all the cameras that we had. They likely won't release it until the trial. Now there's just one problem with that narrative, right? If they have all this footage and they're just not releasing it because they just wanna, what? They're just worried about the trial, they wanna make sure they win the trial. What's wrong with that narrative is the manhunt that took place, if indeed they have tons of footage from all these different angles and some of it in 4K, which they do, this is why we've been saying the feds are lying from day one. Then the first time that that footage should have been deployed was during the 33 hour manhunt, right? Why didn't they release more footage at that time?

0 (27m 50s):
Right? They were, if they were actually interested in catching the killer, why only release a blurry image when there is, as he mentions footage everywhere, all over that campus, every inch. Are we supposed to honestly believe at that time their thought process in the middle of a manhunt was, well, let's not release too much except for a blurry image, because I know we don't have him. But in case we do have him, when we do get him, we wanna make sure that we are able to try him by not releasing footage, which makes no sense, by the way. And I think this is what happens when a company loses their, as South Park ribbed him master debater, right?

0 (28m 31s):
What they're saying does not make sense. These people could not win in college campus debates without Charlie, okay? Because the reality is, if that, if releasing footage, okay, if releasing clear footage of what happened on that day means that you are going to lose in court, that it probably signifies that the person that you are trying to bring to court didn't do it. If they're somehow vindicated by the footage, if you're like, I released the footage of him jumping down on the center and I show him firing the shot, but like that totally vindicates him, then you got the wrong guy, right? Having more footage, examining more footage and examining more evidence should further incriminate Tyler Robinson.

0 (29m 19s):
It should also go a very long way in getting people off of these quote unquote conspiracies common sense. This is what I said in the beginning, release the footage which you do have in your possession. It's not like just the feds have this footage, release the footage because then people will move on from quote unquote conspiracies. So everything they're saying right now doesn't make sense. And the pub, they're not smarter than the public, right? And turning point is not going to going to survive this sort of an attitude name calling threats to sue, calling people demonic, possessed by demonic spirits because they're rightfully asking questions of the most high profile political assassination since JFK.

0 (30m 3s):
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0 (33m 50s):
All right you guys. So how are we supposed to honor Charlie? Right? You honor Charlie, of course, by donating a turning point USA and shutting up and trusting the feds. Don't question anything because it's just not right or whatever. You shouldn't even question the things that Charlie was questioning, right? The spin is in, I got really annoyed last night going through, somebody tagged me and can you see Alex Clark posted and tried to make it seem like I lied about the new Doge department when I literally shared the email from Charlie. They're even using this kind of like I, I call it Christian slop, okay? Because what they're serving up to you is, well, if you're a good Christian, you shouldn't do this.

0 (34m 34s):
Like they kind of saying it's demonic. You're possessed by a demon if you want to pursue truth. Said, literally no one ever but Satan incarnate. Okay? Truth is truth, it is always appropriate. Another one of these talking points are coming out is people are doing this for clicks. They're motivated by money. Do you guys understand the tens of millions of dollars that turning point USA made in the two weeks following Charlie Kirk's assassination? It is, it would be insane for a person to suggest that if a random guy on YouTube catches a million views discussing ballistics, which there have been many gun guys who have done videos on ballistics and caught a million views, but that's somehow immoral because they're maybe gonna make $10,000 if they keep that up for an entire month.

0 (35m 24s):
Like that is insane. And it, it actually relies on financial literacy to think that that's immoral. Good for them, good for them. If you have a small account and you somehow got a million views because you told the truth, then bless you. Okay? Don't let them shame you. The doing it for clicks, oh no, their account talks about ballistics all the time. This is now just a political assassination, the most high profile ever. And people wanna understand every aspect. So we're clicking and we're watching these individuals that look like they know what they're talking about, especially in the absence of any truth coming from the quote unquote authorities. So what are we supposed to believe that the more moral thing would be for us to behave like turning point USA employees, you know, Alex Clark calling you out.

0 (36m 14s):
You kidding me? But should I do what she did? And I, it would've been more moral for me to invite the Wall Street Journal a, a literal week after Charlie is murdered to photograph my me in high boots standing over his memorial site at the office, like the out outside memorial vigil where people mourn and drop off flowers and gifts, because that's exactly what Alex Clark did. And I thought it was icky. I thought it was gross, but I didn't say anything. 'cause everybody mourns in their own way. But I gotta stop saying that. I gotta stop saying everybody grieves in their own way. This is the article that was published on September 18th, so we can assume that they at least photographed her one day in, interviewed her one day earlier, right? That's being charitable.

0 (36m 54s):
So this was done latest, again one week after Charlie was assassinated Again, take a look at this, pull that up. I'm gonna pull this photo up because I just wanna look at the photo. This is literally her being shot in front of the gifts that people are dropping off. Where Charlie, but maybe it's Photoshop doesn't look like it is to me. Even if it was Photoshopped, I would be losing my mind. I I, I don't understand how anyone would let this go out and think that it's okay if they knew Charlie. I couldn't even speak to the press that week. I still haven't spoken to the press about Charlie Kirk. Actually not, I haven't even given one interview about Charlie Kirk because it felt icky to me. I'm just focused on investigating his murder. Anyways, I wanna read a little blurb from this article again, published September 18th.

0 (37m 41s):
Alex Clark was about to head to the airport for a work trip to celebrate the first anniversary of her podcast. When she heard the news, her boss, Charlie Kirk had been shot. She says quote, the very first thought that popped into my head was, I'm so glad that Charlie knew Jesus said Clark 32, who hosts the Maha friendly podcast culture apothecary, returning point USA. The second thought was, what will happen now? And the third thought was, thank God Trump is president. I dunno, you people around the world didn't even know, didn't even know Charlie.

0 (38m 26s):
Okay, third thought, thank God Trump is president. Like Maga did you go Maga? Did you go like, I'm glad he knows the Lord. And then Maga, what are we missing here? What, what? Like I does that feel okay at all? Goes on to say she praises the FBI Director Cash Patel and his deputy Dan Bonino for their leadership in the hunt for the suspect. What's so crazy is that we have them in office because of Charlie Clark said, so honor the feds. Quick pick outside and also maga maga hard that is like, I'm sorry, I get it. Everybody grieves differently, okay, but not that way.

0 (39m 10s):
The last thought that I had as I spent days crying, okay, had difficulty physically pulling myself out of bed, felt like I was being a bad mother, was, man, I'm sure glad Donald Trump is President Maga, I didn't feel that way, didn't feel that way. In fact, I was angry. I remember feeling angry when Trump moved to kind of like do a, a same time post, be net in Yahoo and then like publishes a picture of Charlie with an Israeli flag behind. Was pretty angry about that. I thought, yuck, that's gross. Have, you know, dignity and respect post a picture from this family, you know, trying to like already sow seeds to, into people's minds that like, no, he, he like kind of died for Israeli love digital so much.

0 (39m 54s):
This would be appropriate, especially in the context and message I just read to you. It was gross. But anyways, I, I, I just, I don dunno why. I don't know why, but the people that are critiquing us for investigating the murder are not critiquing themselves and not holding a mirror to themselves. Anyways, Alex has decided to share a total half truth PR spin on another tweet from Tyler Boyer where he responds to someone asking about Charlie establishing a Doge department. Again, we presented that to the public. We showed the internal email the eternal memo that went out. It was Charlie in his own words. We showed the whole email. I didn't read the paragraph where he announced that Justin strife would be the COO, but we read the entirety related to the Doge department and here's what Tyler says about that.

0 (40m 36s):
He says she took a sentence and made something up. TPUSA doesn't audit every year, always has Charlie constantly look for ways to make everything we do more efficient. That's TPUSA. It operates eight times more effectively and any other similar operation. So what did I make up when I shared an email and Charlie said he wanted to establish a new Doge department. Why would he call it new if he was doing it every year? And wow, what foresight you had as a company that's been around for like 10 years or more, maybe more 10 years that you were doing Doge since the beginning. No, you're conflating and it's dishonest. It's dishonest. The audit has F all, okay f all to do with dos.

0 (41m 20s):
The audit is what? 5 0 1 c threes are instructed to do audit, get an independent auditor and audit yourselves or else the IRS will hound you. Now when you are auditing yourselves, I will guarantee you the Clinton Foundation audited themselves annually. That does not mean that there is not corruption. It does not mean it means that you're doing things that are above board from a government perspective, government perspective. It does not mean that within your own organization there is not corruption. That is the reason Roddo department, at least according to what Elon Musk said, nobody when he established Doge with a fake ram, Swami was thinking that he was going in there because he was gonna see if they're violating the IRS laws. No, I think he went in there to see wasteful spending and to see where the money was going, where our tax dollars was going.

0 (42m 4s):
That's the vibe I got. So they're relying on us to be again, financially illiterate to not understand how it works. I shared a a 5 0 1 C3 lawyer with them. So I met her in her offices with Charlie and she explained the reasons why she said that you've gotta get an independent auditor. I actually think that for organizations of a certain size, you're required by law to do an annual audit. If you're 5 0 1 C3, I think it's state by state that guides that. But to present this, like this means we're above board. I have a feeling some people are going to die on that sword because the reality is, is that big companies, inevitably you will find corruption and I'm hearing some stuff, okay? A lot of contractors, that's something that you can do as just one example that's completely legal but utterly immoral is if you're outsourcing all of the millions of dollars to contractors and you're getting kickbacks, that's just one example.

0 (42m 56s):
Okay, So I take money from donors and then I show that I'm paying out to a, a contractor and work with turning point USA, but that contractor is then somehow paying me back. That would be something that wouldn't flag the IRS but then would flag a CEO and a Doge department if they started looking at where the money was spending. I hope that clarifies matters. Now, shifting gears only slightly, I don't often or really ever speak about my faith journey, right? 'cause I'm still on it and I don't wanna make a mistake or be wrong. And in many ways I kind of feel like this pressure that I don't wanna let Catholics down because I don't know everything. And I prefer the people that have been Catholic forever to speak on things as I'm still a student.

0 (43m 39s):
But I do wanna say that a major clue for me that being non-denominational was no longer working for me happened because of things politically when I tried to express certain questions about the modern state of Israel and was instead met with what I can only describe as cult-like behavior. You're seeing it right now, right? Judeo-Christian after Christian making videos can can, it's like cult-like behavior. You can't leave, right? There's only one way outta here. People quoting scripture to actually fulfill what became quite obvious to me was just their political lens. And yeah, people taking money to do that, keeping it above bar, it's not illegal, but you are taking money, you're taking free trips.

0 (44m 24s):
So what are your motives here? If you're citing scripture to defend the actions of Bibi Netanyahu, you're a fraud. Of course you're a fraud. And if you're accepting money to do that in the process, you're worse than a fraud. Anyways, I wanna show you guys this clip that someone sent me. This was a sermon which was given by a pastor on September 21st, 2025. Now it's not necessary to name the Judeo-Christian pastor, right? I'm never trying to put any fire on them because I actually think what they're doing is important because I find out about all of these sermons because their congregants are sending them to me, right? They've got the CIA in their own congregation and people are going. And I stopped attending that day because I realized something's not right here.

0 (45m 6s):
I want you to listen to this pastor's words because you might too feel similarly inspired to recognize that something is wrong. And I wanna also be clear here, it's not every pastor, I wanna be fair for me to say that, but pastors that have a very strong political bent, something's not right there. All right? Now to tee this up, the title of his sermon is What has Defiled You? And he has decided for this particular sermon to pull from Paul's letter to the Corinthians. And that specific biblical passage that he cites is chapter seven verse one. And it reads, the Bible reads. Therefore beloved, since we have these promises, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that defiles body and spirit perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

0 (45m 55s):
Now, you don't need to be a priest or a pastor to think right now about what you might perceive is the point of that passage probably thinking through it. Yeah. Yep. It's important. Body spirit, probably not. What you're thinking right now is that this has something to do with Meg Kelly. You're probably not thinking Paul wrote a s letter to the Corinthians because there's a point that he wants to prove about Meg Kelly, but he's gonna get there. That's how this pastor's gonna get there. He is gonna explain that. Take a listen.

6 (46m 26s):
Why am I bringing this up? Because I was watching a interview with Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly, and this is what they said. Everyone under 30 in America is against Israel. The older generation's not because we've seen the six day war in 1967. There wasn't a narrative that was so prevalent right now with with with foolish people that are so deceived like a Candace Owens and like a Nick Fuentes. And young people are eating that up and they're changing their philosophy on what these people say that do not do. Do not base your ideology unless somebody has a Bible open.

6 (47m 6s):
That is where your ideology comes from. You're gonna be like that tree hugging hippie mom that's, I'm trying to save her kids from being bitten by a rattlesnake and dying. And she's all worried about some habitat when she knows she's not welcoming in rattlesnakes in her home. And our ideologies when we really, really think about 'em, they've been formed by a society that is not basing everything they believe out of the word of God. And I challenge you today, if I've said anything that you don't think is right, bring, bring your Bible and show me.

6 (47m 47s):
Because if I'm wrong, I want to know

0 (47m 52s):
Challenge accepted, challenge accepted. I really like look far, be it for me. I'm not a seminarian. I really don't think that is what Paul, I just don't, I don't think it was about Nick Fuentes, it called me crazy. I know you guys do on Sundays, but I don't think it was about Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens and the modern, modern created state of Israel. Again, I could be wrong. I'm open like you to being incorrect. But it's just like there's something that is so fundamentally disgusting and I hope you guys agree about using the Bible to justify your own personal rants using the Bible to justify why you're attacking somebody preaching a sermon.

0 (48m 44s):
Like just start a podcast. You can be like me, right? I'm not sitting here going turn your Bible here and you are, you know, defile and blah blah blah. And what this really means is like that turning point is like that's, there's something so incredibly evil about that. He has a quick second here when he wraps up his points about me that I wanna get to because I've starting to realize I don't even think he knows what defile means. Actually take a listen.

6 (49m 12s):
You need to go there to the Lord and say what has defiled me? Hopefully some of you that have been defiled with the nation of Israel, because you've been in an echo chamber of Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens, that defilement has now come off of you and you're gonna block them because they're anti what scripture says. What defiles you? What defiles you?

0 (49m 44s):
So I think what he's saying that if I'm being charitable here, he's suggesting like you'll somehow be saved if you block me on Insta. What is this actually? What is that? I'll tell you what it is. It's completely heretical in the theological sense, but it's also unhinged. It's just unhinged. He looks unhinged. It's like he, it's like so much relies on him getting his point across. So he just like opens his Bible points to a verse and just throws it up and says whatever he wants to. He's basically me on like aim when I was in the eighth grade picking out quotes from like, you know, whatever those quote websites are and just like throwing it on my away message.

0 (50m 32s):
There's no rhyme or reason that he's doing this. His feeling that he has and he wants to express it and justify it using a quote without its context or even understanding of why that quote was quote was said or why that biblical passage was written. It's wrong and it's also deranged. Everything that's happening right now to continue to justify what the native state of Israel is doing, the modern state of Israel is doing, which has nothing to do with the ancient Israel. Biblical Israel is they are now trying to censor us, trying to control our speech. They are murdering children. And so the more that you defend this and that you pretend that this is what God wants, the more that you will expose yourself, right? The more that you expose yourself.

0 (51m 13s):
Even this headline is crazy. This, this, this came out that like their TikTok, which we, we covered this before, or moderation team like IDF soldiers and Bibi Netanyahu saying we're taking over TikTok. Like my agents are gonna get that in a purchase. That's what needs to happen. So that we can win announcing essentially psychological warfare on, on the American people because they don't think we can think for ourselves and decide who we wanna follow on X all by ourselves. Apparently they're gonna ban the juice box emoji, right? Because people, because they can't talk about the modern state of Israel, have been using like the apple juice because juice can sound like juice. And so they're now moderating that.

0 (51m 54s):
And I will say this, that's gonna be funny because it's just, it's gonna be a game like whack-a-mole and all we can do is laugh at it because these people are savvy. These tiktoks are like, they're pretty savvy on the internet. They're gonna be, so there's gonna be announcing like let's use this emoji instead from now on. This represents the modern state of Israel. And before you know it, there's gonna be no emojis that are allowed on TikTok. Actually it would be funny, the funniest thing that they could possibly do right now is every time you wanna talk about Israel on TikTok, use the term TikTok and see if TikTok will ban TikTok from TikTok. That's how we win. Like if that happens, we win. Okay? We get to laugh forever that we made TikTok ban TikTok.

0 (52m 36s):
'cause TikTok is actually code reel the modern state of TikTok. That's what I want you guys to do. 'cause that would just be funny. And we have to actually have fun because it's getting so crazy. We have to actually have fun and continue to smile and laugh and to be happy warriors for truth. Because Charlie always believed in being a happy warrior. That is, that is just a fact.

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Cameron Owens Owens. Somebody wrote me a message and was like, Candace, you said your name wrong. They missed the Operation Mocking Pastor joke, Cameron Owens is my pastor stage name when they're talking trash about me. I actually love that so much. All right, let's get into some of your comments. What is on your mind? I'm gonna be in so much trouble, man. I'm gonna get off here the airwaves and be like, she's not. She is just, yeah, I'm there. I'm there now. I just don't like it. I just not getting the right vibe, and I know everybody else feels it too. And I'm just really tired of these influencers making the videos are all saying the same thing in a different way. I think we're dumb and like it's all happening organically. It's like, it's just tiresome.

0 (56m 58s):
It's really tiresome. So if I have to take on everybody so we can get some truth, then that's what it's, that's just what it is. Jennifer Eson writes, praying for your Safety. Candice, keep digging, please. You are onto something. We need truth. Thank you, Jennifer. That is a massive donation. I really, really appreciate that all of you guys have been donating to the show to support us. Like I just want, you know, like we really appreciate it and we see it. And Melissa Berg. Similarly, the really nice donation here, spent the weekend researching the Kabbalah. It was to say the absolute least terrifying. Thank you. Yes, it is very important. Of course, if you are in my book club, we're about to really get into it. By the way, tomorrow we start the book, which they don't want to resell, which is crazy.

0 (57m 40s):
I don't know where David Pean's children are, the author of the book. He is Jewish himself, but I'm just wanting to know that you're being like, they're blocking money from you. They don't want the public to read this book, which you can download and find it online for free. But like still, it's pretty crazy that they are now realizing people are catching on that book. We'll dive into the Kabbalah. It's very important to note. Similarly, like I've said from the beginning, we have different denominations within Christianity. That's kinda what this whole episode has been about. I don't know why, one, like I, I, I don't know why so many evangelicals have such vitriol for Catholics. The feeling is not mutual. Genuinely the feeling is not mutual on the Catholic side or on the orthodox side. And so it's interesting to say the least.

0 (58m 20s):
But similarly, within Judaism, there are different sects. There just are, and, and we don't realize that we don't know what they believe in. We just go, oh, well it's Judaism. It's the, it's just, you know, it's the Pentitude, the first five books of the Bible. No, there's also the Tal mood, there's also the Kabbalah. And to just not actually study and understand all of those differences, it makes us extremely ignorant and very likely to be indoctrinated into one of those religions, convinced that it's actually modern science, which is what's actually happening. I think we kind of live in a, a kabbalah society more than anything else. And I think that this book that we're gonna read will help you get there. We really have. We go there in the book club. We go there. And so if you'd like to join the book club, we're starting a new book tomorrow.

0 (59m 2s):
Tomorrow will be an introduction, an introduction to that book. We will wrap up this last book that we read, which is similarly terrifying, which is the Assault on truth. The scales will fall from your eyes if you read the assault on truth, to understand how they will lie to protect the most evil people in the entire world. You have to destroy your belief system without Sigmund Freud. And then you're ready to learn about what Sigmund Freud actually, what his major contribution was. And that's the book we're diving into next. Sigmund Freud in the Jewish mystical tradition is the name of that book by David Bacan that we'll be starting on tomorrow's book club. Lauren writes, Lauren Holin writes, you mention the Suspicious Way. So many of the individuals surrounding Charlie's case are new to their role.

0 (59m 44s):
I live in Dallas, and I noticed after the ice shooting that Daniel Kamo, the Dallas Police, cha chief is new to the role as of April. We are all being lied to. Yeah, it's almost like they're like actors. You know what I mean? You're gonna just play the role of sheriff when we do this thing. You're gonna play the role of this and everyone's gonna be so new. It's pretty lame. It is pretty lame. And I, it, it, again, questions we're allowed to ask them, expose the truth, rights. I had been a Catholic my whole life and attended a non-denominational church once and found it to be cringey like that. Pastor that you showed the video of Keep Fighting for Truth. I'm sure Charlie is cheering you on from heaven praying for you. You know, actually, to tell you how emotional I was after Charlie's death was really just not myself, obviously, but I was upset.

0 (1h 0m 24s):
I was almost upset with my priest because I went on Sunday and I expected him to like say something about Charlie Kirk, which is not what he should be doing. Like, you, you can dedicate a mass to somebody. But he didn't say anything about Charlie Kirk. And I was like, oh, like, I don't like that. And then now that I've moved from that, I actually appreciate that. Like, that is what I actually find that I love about the Catholic religion is like, there's not, there's no political bent there. Like that is what I love. And I tend, you know, the Latin mass and I, what I was upset with. I now really appreciate in the retrospect that, you know, there's no drop of politic when you're in the room. Jennifer Barney writes, I admire you so much. It's easy to drop something and go with the flow. Don't drop this. Something is not right.

0 (1h 1m 4s):
Thank you Candace, for being our voice. I'm grateful. I'm actually so grateful I can be your voice. And I'm grateful that you see that when they're attacking me. They're just kind of attacking people for asking the most basic of questions. And again, I would like to, I'm so grateful to Tucker, I think is also one of our voices. He immediately interjects and he's like, well, let's be fair here. The feds have lied about everything always. So why should we think this is different? Especially when they're dropping these weird text messages. So yeah, I'm, I'm grateful that you guys trust me to be your voice. And obviously you guys were kind of all on the same squad here, so it's because of the information that you're giving me that I'm able to even platform it. So I owe, I have so much gratitude for you guys as well.

0 (1h 1m 44s):
Every morning I start the day with gratitude, and I always say how grateful I am for the platform that I have been given by God and the people that have invested in me by just watching and hearing what I'm saying and standing up for me when I can't stand up for myself because I'm being attacked from every which direction. So from the bottom of my heart, I do wanna say thank you to you guys. Moderator Marzi writes, Rob O'Neill, the guy who shot Bin Laden questions. The story of Charlie on P Morgan's show. Also, the South African ambassador to France was found dead in a Paris hotel. Oh no, France. France. It is hot right now. France. France is, mm mm You guys already know, look, I wanna say this, I wanna say this.

0 (1h 2m 29s):
Make sure I, I read all of this. Oh, I budget also asked, what's the update on your Australian visa status? I wanna answer that real quickly. Your Australian fans need you. You know the, the Supreme Court of Australia heard, I don't think it's called the Supreme Court. You guys call it something else. It is your Supreme Court heard our arguments and we are still awaiting a decision. Obviously we can't rush them in their decision. So you will be the first to know when we hear back speeches, speeches on the line. But of course, we've always respect the decision of any country. We've never been in trouble. So it's weird that I can't travel to Australia. It's very strange to me. Everybody else travel to Australia that's been in ton of tons of trouble. But that is the power of truth when it is spoken, that is what is so amazing. All of the money in the world that Israel has, the money that they spend on influencers, people that been assassinated by trying to get them to register under Farrah presidents, everything that they have done, and every piece of that carefully woven tapestry of deception is falling apart because people are speaking truth.

0 (1h 3m 29s):
That is why free speech is important, right? That is why it is the single thing that they wanna attack. First is because truth when spoken, that's Christ. Christ is truth, right? It is that powerful. And that's something to be amazed by, to be amazed that they're scrambling and they want us to stop speaking and to stop communicating and to shut down communications. It shows you the power, you know, the power of Christ. Truly, I will say in closing and going back to France, if I found Rashid's penis, I will find who killed Charlie Kirk. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

10/2/25
INSANITY! Guess Who Kash Patel Sent To Investigate Charlie Kirk's Assassination | Ep 247


0 (1s):
All right. Happy Thursday everybody, and I'm serious. You should be happy and you should be married because the tapestry is unraveling, right? I mean, there has been an extremely carefully woven tapestry of deception in all of our lives, and I think that Charlie Kirk's s Assassination, while of course it was a tragedy, has also worked to awaken the world to a deeper evil, something more sinister that sits below. So today we are going to talk about the A DL, the Anti-Defamation League, because suddenly Cash Patel wants to distance the feds from them. I don only think that's possible, and I'm wondering why he chose yesterday to do that. Plus, we received a few tips regarding the woman who is missing from the footage, and while we certainly cannot confirm that it's actually this individual, we do find the fact that she gave a public testimony to be pretty interesting.

0 (52s):
What she says is interesting. Also, what she does for a living is even more interesting. Our witness tree grows. Welcome back to Candace. Okay. I need you guys locked in because things are becoming increasingly interesting. Okay? Yesterday, the FBI made a rather curious announcement. They announced that they were going to cut ties with the A DL, right? You know what the A DL is the Anti Defamation League. And the reasons, well, because they had listed Charlie Kirk and his organization, T-P-U-S-A to be extremist.

0 (1m 39s):
Everybody's an extremist according to the A DL. But I want you guys to know that this is not a subtle announcement. We need to unpack this announcement because I don't care what side of the aisle that you are on, you need to understand that the A DL is not, nor has it ever been what it purports to be, okay? Purports to be, oh, you know, we're just looking out and hate speech and extremism. No, no, no, no. The reality is the A DL was born out of a Jewish Freemason organization known as Benni Beith. Now, you're my book club. You know this, but Sigmund Freud was a member of Bonai Beith. We were discussing, we're reading right now the book, the Assault on Truth, and Sigmund Freud is very relevant.

0 (2m 23s):
You have to learn the history of Sigmund Freud. He's in all of our schools, all of our universities taught as a hero. The history of the psychoanalytic movements. Look, the reality is him and all of his homies were covering up for incestuous child abuse. That is a fact, okay? They can't wipe that stain away white. Literally. The way that they did this was through the mechanism of gas lighting. That's what he is the father of public gas lighting, okay? That's what modern psychology is. They moved to instead diagnose people who were being abused, right? They were using their credentials. I'm a this, so I'm a that to make people maybe the wider public believe that their gaslighting was actually legitimate.

0 (3m 7s):
That is what the book, the Assault on Truth unpacks. It is therefore a must read because you have to realize how horrific the crimes were that were being committed, that they were covering for, so Sigmund Freud was in Bonai Beith, and the A DL was born out of Bonai Beith. Why? Well, because they put the organization together to defend a pedophile and a murderer. His name is Leo Frank. Leo Frank was an unbelievably wealthy Jewish factory owner down in Atlanta, and this is 1913. It's very relevant. You should know this happened in 1913, and this is the American South. You know what was going on there? And Mary Fagan was a 13-year-old girl who worked at his pencil factory.

0 (3m 50s):
She was found brutally raped, a ca she's a Catholic girl, by the way. I wanna say that. She was a young Catholic girl and Leo Frank, even with all of his money, all of his connections, the best lawyers that money could buy connections all the way to the Supreme Court. He was so guilty of what happened. That de despite the fact what he tried to pin it on a poor black janitor, even in the segregated south, where people were just like, Hey, give us any reason and we will go lynch a black person. The racist segregated south, they still found him guilty, okay? They still found Leo Frank guilty, And so much has been written to try to obscure this still, they are still trying to defend Leo Frank.

0 (4m 33s):
What happened then is that his buddies over at the Free Masons Lodge, Bonai Beith assembled the A DL to Gaslight the public. No, Leo Frank wasn't guilty. Look what happened after he was lynched for what he did to Mary Fagan. He is actually a victim of antisemitism. That's it. He wasn't guilty. I'm sure maybe, maybe the black guy did it in 1913, Atlanta and everyone conspired to a stand, instead attack a wealthy factory owner. Like I said, to this day, they are using those mechanisms to try to gaslight us and to pretend that Leo Frank was really the victim in this tragedy. It's utterly demented. I will never let it stand. He killed Mary Fagan.

0 (5m 14s):
He's still guilty of that crime no matter how much the A DL tries to obscure that. And by the way, if you wanna learn more, you should learn more about Mary Fagan's murder. I can point you guys. There's a book called The Murder of Little Mary Fagan, and it is written by a relative of hers and that relative's name is also Mary Fagan. You should read the details of what happened a hundred years ago. It's, and you should read the facts around it. Read the case documents, learn about the brutal rape and the murder and what happened thereafter. Because so much has been written since to try to obscure those facts. So go to the family member as a source, do that in your own spare time. In fact, maybe I should add it to the book club list. Anyways, the reason why I'm telling you that is because there is a crucial, it really is a very crucial element of our history that you need to come to terms with, right?

0 (5m 60s):
The modern media machine, all of these journalists who lie and gaslight, you're seeing it right now. What they're writing about me, it's insane. They are students of effectively the psychoanalytic community. Let's gaslight and then we will diagnose gaslight and diagnose seeing it happen in real time. Pertaining to the Charlie Kirk case. We watched him be murdered and then we watched the Feds lie to us rather fanatically. The text messages, I think were really the what is going on. And now they're yelling at us for noticing like we are all being abused right now by the press, right? They're trying to spin it.

0 (6m 40s):
No, I can't believe people have questions. The conspiracies are so bad. These text messages were totally legit. Anybody who wants to investigate it further crazy. Oh, just totally crazy. We're all clinically insane. We should probably consult a physician. How dare we? It's inappropriate. Candace. This is, they always say this, she must be suffering from postpartum psychosis. Okay? Whatever you wanna call. The thing is that I'm suffering from, when you watch your friend catch a bullet in the neck, you can call it that. Diagnose it if you need to. Anyways, you guys, the time has come for us to wake up. Now, it should unnerve you with that little bit of history that despite their well-documented founding, the A DL is so powerful of an organization that they have been directing the FBI for years, okay?

0 (7m 29s):
They label people who tell the truth extremists, they put them on a list. I think it effectively works as a hit list. And then they direct and work with the FBI in partnership to go after those extremists. Okay? That is a very weird relationship, a strange relationship in a moral relationship and a corrupt relationship. Now, I want you to know that I learned that recently last year, that both the left and the right work with the A DL, okay? There was this lie that's told publicly I was, I believed it. That it's just the left. It's all left leaning. No, no, no, no. They work with both the left and the right, the neocons on the right side work arm in arm with the A DL and feed them names, primarily of anyone I should say, who is an enemy to the state of Israel.

0 (8m 20s):
So currently you have Trump people who I, I guess are trying to save face for their remarkable lack of curiosity as it pertains to who assassinated Charlie Kirk, who loved them and worked very, did whatever he could to support their administration. They're trying to save face and pretend that they're upset. You know, like, oh, we're gonna do something. It's not okay that this happens. Look over here, right? Oh, look over here. The A DL put Charlie Kirk on a list. Now that he's dead, we demand post justice and Cas Patel's doing that. He's acting right now. He's pretending that he's delivering some form of justice. I think Elon Musk tweeted about Charlie Kirk and T-P-U-S-A being on the list and then it kind of caught fire and this became the new conservative talking point.

0 (9m 4s):
The A DL must pay for that. And sure enough, the FBI director Cash Patel announced yesterday that he ended, he has, this is over. Yes, the A DL was training FBI agents and sharing intelligence in partnership with the FBI. The FBI and the A DL had a partnership sharing intel. They were training agents and he says, no more, okay? He wrote this in a tweets. James Comey wrote love letters to the A DL and embedded FBI agents with them, a group that ran disgraceful ops spying on Americans. That era is over the FBI won't partner with political fronts masquerading as watchdogs.

0 (9m 49s):
Now if you're on the right, you're supposed to go yay justice served. If you're on the left, you're maybe gonna be happy that the A DL responded very graciously to this. They issued a statement immediately. They said, as we prepare to observe the holiest day of the year on the Jewish calendar, oh, that's just like, I guess they're victims. Somehow we have seen the statement from the F-B-I-F-B-I, director Patel, regarding the FBI's relationship. A DL has deep respect for the Federal Bureau of Investigation and law enforcement officers at all levels across the country who work tirelessly every single day to protect all Americans regardless of their ancestry, religion, ethnicity, faith, political affiliation, or any other point of difference in light of an unprecedented surge of antisemitism.

0 (10m 38s):
We remain more committed than ever to our core purpose to protect the Jewish people. You should know that all of that that you just heard, okay, is bs. Okay? It's slave slop. We are the slaves and they are serving a slop right now. The illusion that things are changing, the illusion that it's left versus right or that it's Jewish Americans versus everybody else. Hey Jewish Americans, if you're watching this, you wanna wake up, it's an A DL is not your friend at all. They don't care about what happens to you. If you need more proof, you should know that they curiously removed the A of battalion. They're carving swastikas on their head. Ukrainians murdering people.

0 (11m 19s):
They removed them from the hate list. Canda owns is on there though I'm sure you guys go to bed and you're worried about Candace Owens and not the people that are carving freaking swastikas on their head and murdering people, okay? They don't care. That's all. This is all just slop less left versus right illusion, whatever it is. But the more important question that I wanna get to is why now? Why are they putting on this performative bitch right now? Well, yesterday I made an offhand remark about the A DL and the FBI sharing an office in Connecticut. Now I know this because I'm from Connecticut, so there's no way to try to obscure that fact. Back in 2023, actually a Catholic investigator revealed this and shared it.

0 (12m 3s):
He addressed it in a series of tweets. Kyle Undercover wrote, I gathered property records for the 19 different states that the A DL has a regional office established. The report reveals that in the state of Connecticut, the A DL shares an office space with the FBI. They also share an office space with the United Nations in New York now same building across the hall, whatever. That's a fact and it makes sense. You shouldn't be that shocked when they're owning the fact that they share information. It's easier to share information if you're sharing an office space, right? Anyways, he goes on and he writes, after reviewing the 19 A DL offices, we can see an alarming trend.

0 (12m 44s):
63% of the ADLs regional offices are located within various banking institutions. 42% are located within various law firms ranging from immigration to criminal law. You should keep that in mind. But what we're gonna talk about later on the show and 10% are located in Jewish institutions. So you get the point, why am I telling you this? Because after I made that offhand remark yesterday, I received a rather stunning tip, which I have been able to corroborate that out of all of the FBI boroughs in the United States regarding which there are 55 main boroughs and over 350 satellite bureaus. The FBI sent the specific Connecticut borough down to UVU after Charlie Kirk was assassinated to help investigate the Assassination.

0 (13m 35s):
Okay, let's just look at that map again. They decided to go upwards on the east coast and to send the field office from that borough to UVU. I'm wondering why they did that. I'd like an answer. We're probably not gonna get it. We're not getting answers to anything. I wonder what moved them to send that particular borough. Okay, down to UVU, it just feels like you got a lot around you of options. It wasn't exactly like necessary for you to do that. Charlie Kirk gets assassinated and yeah, that person provided proof. They said we are 1000% certain. And I said, I'm gonna need to see proof.

0 (14m 16s):
Unbelievably, I'd like to know why they did that, right? I'd like to know why suddenly now Cash Patel is making a strong statement against the A DL. All of that just feels a little too close to comfort. And by the way, how do you separate when just across the hall? I was think that you guys are not speaking to each other anymore. Are we? Are we supposed to be this dumb? Okay. Completely ridiculous. Completely ridiculous. One to share that, okay, anyways, jumping back into more oddities that occurred on that day, despite having these federal agents from Connecticut, now I have presented to you just thus far, right, that a lot of these witnesses that immediately spoke out to say Here's what happened, here's how many shots here, here's what I heard, that they had strange connections to the government or like weren't from UVU at all.

0 (15m 8s):
Were coming from overseas. Didn't really make sense. I was trying to understand that. And yesterday of course we were trying to figure out who was this mysterious woman that was allegedly seen helping the shooter change clothes. I got that one tip from an individual completely unrelated, said yes, there was footage of a person helping the shooter change clothes and then suddenly we receive, we were able to discern at the very least that someone in the Broderick Lyman family certainly acknowledges that there was a woman at the very least who she suspected could have been an accomplished. She didn't say anything about the person changing clothes, but we can watch that clip again to hear what she says

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If you t time how long it took him to get from that little part over to here was way longer than it should have been. So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff like if there isn't a accomplice. Sorry,

3 (16m 5s):
You're filming. And it said right here, that picture from Sam's across the street, he was right here. Yep.

0 (16m 11s):
Okay. So we received a couple of tips pertaining to who that woman might have been according to rumor circulating around Orum. And I wanna be very clear when we say that this is a rumor, I mean that you should take this information with a grain of salt. We, we cannot present it at face value because we don't have the footage right? I cannot say this is a fact. I can say that this lead became more interesting to me and that the FBI should clarify things. It's that simple. Let us see all the footage, but they don't seem even remotely interested in trying to help us clarify anything. Anyways, the name that we had received was, it turned out somebody that actually provided the only eyewitness testimony of having seen the shooter up close limping.

0 (16m 58s):
So it's possible just to run the other side of things that this woman captured. Both of them walking back to back and she just was walking near him and she had nothing to do with helping him change. That's all possible and you should consider that possibility. We don't have answers, but there's something else that is interesting about her. Like I said, the testimony that she provided is interesting and she is the only person that saw the shooter limping up close and her name, and we know this because she spoke to the news, they all did, is Olivia Robertson, Cobb Bishop. Let's listen to her testimony now.

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I kind of realized the type of street I was on a little bit more secluded. You know, Olivia Bishop

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Retrace her steps where she came face to face with Charlie Kirk's alleged killer.

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Just looking over, seeing that he was limping, kind of being like, oh, okay. And then long black shirt kind of thinking, that's kind of weird. It's kind of super hot outside.

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Bishop says something seemed a little off.

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I did look over at him and he was kind of like, like that was his face. Just kind of like not a smile or anything from the

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Expressionless demeanor. Long sleeve shirt during a hot summer day to the limp. It's

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Kind of odd. I don't know, like now that I think about it, it's just very like chilling to me

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Chilling. After reading, charging documents online and seeing this video of Robinson walking away from UVU after Kirk was shot, that's when she realized she'd been only feet away from the accused killer. Now she questions whether she could have done more

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Had I seen the imprint of a rifle down his leg. If I had looked at him a little longer, then immediately after that happened, would I have thought back to him? You know, and been able to like alert authorities quicker. Bishop

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Realizes there's nothing she could have done differently, but

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Just to have been like an eyewitness to him on his way there is just shocking to me.

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I gotta say, when I saw that, I was actually kind of giddy 'cause I was like, finally it looks like a college student from UVU who is speaking to the news. That's great. And of course I then had to wonder what she, what she was studying and it turns out, no, she doesn't go to UVU. I don't know, they just, a lot of these people were not available that day. But what she does for a living is quite interesting 'cause there's an emerging pattern. And for whatever reason, nobody who spoke to the press said what their connections were. It turns out that she works for the Orum Police Department, she's a record specialist. And I should tell you guys kind of unbelievably the in August where you're gonna believe this, they kind of lost a lot of people that were working at the department.

0 (19m 34s):
There's a Facebook post, people that were retiring, a lot of changes that were happening, I don't know when she started working there, but she works the Orum Police Department and we're hearing a lot of stuff about some plausible corruption that might be going on there. And I just said, wow, okay. Curiously, she also was a purports to be a close witness to when Charlie got shot. And I'm wondering if you work for the Orum Police Department, what were you doing going to a Charlie Kirk event in the middle of the day, like assuming that's a full-time job. Charlie spoke on a Wednesday. What were you doing there at all? Actually, is this like the longest lunch break ever?

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Meeting up with some friends? She says another meeting up with some friends. Okay, another thing that we were able to learn is that she met up with her husband. Like how are all of these people just allowed to leave work to hear Charlie Kirk speak, I'm interested. So I reach out obviously today, called the records office, sent her a text, we were able to find her number. She doesn't wanna speak about anything, she says that was it. She just wanted speak right there, give her testimony, and that she gave the appropriate information to the appropriate authorities. So that there beyond that is just going to be a dead end. But I'd like to take a broader look at our witness tree because it's growing, right? It's growing our witness tree.

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We've got Tiffany Barker, of course, she's with the nieces. Her sister was Phil Lyman's, running mates. She spoke to Good Morning America, the We Morning wee Hours the morning after. Phil Lyman, of course, our guy, he really does not like me at all. He wants me to know that he thinks I'm, I'm shady, that I'm an accomplice to something. He ran for Utah governor in 2024. He featured George Zinn on his website at that time. Spoke to Alex Jones, Fox News News Nation. Really anybody that would have him. Now we have Olivia Bishop, she works for the Orum police records specialist and yeah, she works as the Orum police records specialist and she spoke to local news.

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Who else do we have here? Well, let me show you this other video, which gets interesting. Okay, check out this USA today video of people speaking about what they heard and what they saw. Take a listen.

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It sounds like, like lightning. It was so loud. I thought some, I thought the shooter was right there in the crowd and apparently he wasn't. Apparently he was far off. Everybody got down and I instantly just started praying for Charlie Kirk and the girl I was with next to, she was bawling because she had seen it, she had seen the graphic imagery of of it, of the bullet piercing his neck and, and and opening his neck up and, and I can't imagine what it was like to see that. I

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Actually was just walking up, I was going through the event with a friend and So I was in the back of the crowd still walking to get closer when I heard the pop of a gunshot and people started screaming and running. So I took a knee, you know, just outta habit from being in the Marine Corps and people were still screaming and running and I just decided to look for the shooter wherever they might be. But people just kept clearing out,

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Basically. I just heard a shot and I saw him falling towards the left. So I knew he got shot on the collarbone or the neck right here. But I didn't see bleed immediately. I just saw and I heard and we all crouched down and I wish there was a better security. I was a little surprised when I walked into the courtyard and there wasn't any metal detector. There were securities around the building, but it wasn't really solid.

0 (23m 13s):
Okay, so to show you who those individuals are, a lot of software engineers. We can pull back up. Emmanuel, you saw his name there again, we're pulling people that spoke to the press publicly. We're not revealing any information here, but he works for Domo Incorporated. His history is that he's a software engineer, a technical advisor. Technical advisor. His name is German in or I'd like to know a little bit more also, I, when I look up these people, by the way, none of them have reached out to me like from the minutes that this all happened. I asked for information and for, for whatever reason, these people were very anxious to speak to the press right after. But then we're like, you know what, we're not gonna, we're not gonna speak to anybody else about that.

0 (23m 54s):
Same for Grinnell owner, we covered this. He was with Phil Lyman's, uncle, cousin, I mean nephew. Cousin. He we learned was a software engineer from Austria. So Austria, Germany, okay. Featured in Shiner's Instagram. And that guy Scott Robbins that you saw looking like a college kid. Well he was also a gubernatorial candidate. He ran for Governor of Utah in 2024. Nobody mentioned this. I guess all of these USA today or ap, nobody asked them like who they were, if they were college students and for whatever reason, everybody that they spoke to wasn't that we will continue to grow this witness tree.

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Robbie Hill, we've put a TBD on because we're getting crazy information on him. We're calling him Mr. Worldwide over here. Okay, we've got Robbie Hild and the Cayman Islands, we've got Robbie Hild in Spain, we've got Robbie Hild all over, all over. And so that's gonna take some time. We need to be more thorough in that and we will have more on Robbie Hild on Monday.

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0 (27m 37s):
Okay? So it's looking like an operation, right? We are right now living through the JFK Assassination. We weren't there for that. The majority of us weren't there for that. I wasn't there for that. But we wondered, we knew we are still being lied to about that Assassination. And I just wondered, like AJ did allowed yesterday, did all of the homies of JFK just try to cover it up? I think the answer might be yes. I I think he was surrounded, I think he was infiltrated and then they got rid of him because of wrong think he had the wrong ideas that perhaps maybe every foreign nation should register under Farah. Anyways, how, how this works is that then you have to kind of put together like a Warren commission, right?

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JFK, the Warren Commission, a complete and utter farce to pretend like the government's taking it seriously and investigating well if Tyler Robinson's gonna be our patsy. I do wanna be clear here. I'm not saying that Tyler Robinson is guilty of nothing, right? It's his gun. There's weird stuff going on there. I don't believe he pulled the trigger, but if they're gonna make that stick then you gotta have, you gotta have a lawyer that's working for the prosecution, right? Well that's what's going on. Recently, Elizabeth Lane went on the Redacted podcast and she discussed how the prosecutor is picking his opponent in the Tyler Robinson case.

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Take a listen to her, explain that

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Investigative journalist, Elizabeth Lane is not giving up on this story. She's been on the ground in Utah connecting the CIA Dots, the three letter agency Dots in Connections. And she joins us now, Elizabeth, great to have you on the show. Thank

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You for having me Clayton. I looked at Tyler Robinson's case and I thought, well why don't I get this guy a lawyer because that at least puts me near him So I can understand and control the process. And this is times where they couldn't find the guy a lawyer and they were kind of scrambling around to, to figure out what, who was going to be his lawyer. And I started approaching different firms in Utah trying to get him a lawyer for pro bono. So I walked up to one of the most reputable firms in Utah and I asked them if they were willing to represent Tyler Robinson for pro bono case. And I was extremely surprised what I got from them.

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First and foremost, they were like, yes, we are absolutely on this because we don't believe that what happened to Charlie Co was remotely a case of just a single, you know, crazy kid going up and shooting the guy in the neck. Like, we don't believe that. So we are more than willing to represent him pro bono. So I was like, great. So we started the process and what happened is we realized that we needed lawyers who are actually certified with death penalty. So their certifications didn't live up to that. But there's another interesting thing. When I did find a lawyer that was certified to represent Tyler Robinson, obviously I needed a consent from Robinson's family and or Robinson himself.

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'cause he is actually not a minor. He can consent to himself. Ironically, we were unable to get in touch with the parents because as a lawyer you can't solicitate clients. So it's illegal. So you can't just announce yourself that I'm gonna represent Tyler Robinson. So I started doing that. So I got into this process and I asked my local lawyer firm, Hey, what's the best way to go around here? Like, we need help to get the lawyer from New York who is certified to represent Tyler to get on the case. So he said, what? Whatever you do, Elizabeth, do not get in touch with the firms in Utah that are the most powerful because they are in on it with the state. No matter what happens, they will take the, the, the side of the state.

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I did not listen to him and I ended up calling one of the biggest firms in Utah just to ask for an advice. Like what, what is the situation here? What can we do? They started screaming on the phone and I was like, why do you even care? Like you don't have a dog in this fight? Why are you so rude on the phone? So then I said, listen, there is a lawyer who's qualified and he's actually very famous in New York, wants to represent this kid. All I need is a consent from Tyler Robinson to do so, and we think that you can help to this. I got a very rude response that only score, this is allowed to find a representation for Tyler Robinson. So SCEs is a guy who's running as a state prosecutor.

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So here's the problem with that. State prosecutor cannot be responsible to find a lawyer for a defendant. That's illegal.

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Right? Right. That they will be, they're choosing their own opponent.

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Yeah. That's what it seems

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Like. And this is something that I've been, I've been wondering about because it seems like an open and shut case for any defense attorney. Yes. Because the government has presented such a crap case unless his attorney is a shill.

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Yes. So what I know is that Squidy is running as a state prosecutor. He's running, everyone can look it up. It's on his website. So it's, it's not quite illegal for him to find a lawyer for Tyler, but it would be illegal if he was a state prosecutor. But what it is though is highly unethical.

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Highly unethical. And the reason why I wanted to show you that clip is because I've learned a lot over the last couple of years. And what I can tell you is that this gang that's running everything, okay, they also are controlling the courts. That's how you get a prosecution against somebody. That makes no sense. And why do you do that? Because typically you're hiding government's crimes, right? You want people to stop looking. You want people to stop asking questions. You're not just asking questions. Yeah, no, we are implying here that everything you're telling us about the Tyler Robinson case makes no sense. But these people control the courts. And I gotta tell you another thing. I wanna be very clear. They even have figured out how to run a kangaroo court system, total kangaroo court system, where judges do not have to follow the law.

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Okay? Ian Carroll was on my show speaking about this, pertaining to Justin Bieber. It is a fact. Arbitration courts, so they get you to sign a contract and you agree if you have an issue, go to arbitration. Court court. Most people don't know what that means. It's a private court where the judge does not have to follow the law. They can just say you're guilty. We, and when you get to that level, there's usually a couple of reasons why they've got these players that work for the government and are willing to lie and cheat and steal. And it is because the government needs a prosecution or you've pissed them off and they need a conviction against you because they're trying to bankrupt you. Okay? The corrupt case is when you get really close to a truth, the government swoops in to try to bankrupt you.

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I am living proof of that. Never in the history of the world ever has there been a sitting leader of a foreign country that has sued a podcaster or a news member, even, even a journalist in a foreign country for defamation. Okay? I am the first, it is because we are getting close to a lot of truth when it comes to Jit Macron, okay? And so now what they're doing is they're calling their cronies. Jit Macron has hired feds, federal, former federal prosecutors, and she's hiring a firm here. Why? Because the next option is, is cancers and shut up are gonna bankrupt her. These are the people that want you to believe they're successful in life. Organically. No, no, no, no. The entire system is rigged.

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It's rigged, okay? If you get too close to them and too powerful, usually suddenly a person gets inclined to commit suicide, we don't know why. And then suddenly there's a, a hostile takeover of their company. Or you know, a random person shoots them, right? If there's any threat against them, it's either you're smeared, you are bankrupt, bankrupted, or you die in rather mysterious circumstances. So watch this, because you're learning the playbook. Everybody's waking up right now. You need to pay attention to this. This is another one of their mechanisms. They control the courts and they will get whatever it is they need to get accomplished in the courts. Whether it's bankruptcy or a conviction that makes literally no sense.

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As is going to be the case with Tyler Robinson, they're gonna convict him, right? They found their patsy, they're gonna make it work, and they're gonna keep threatening the rest of us for noticing, for noticing that nothing makes sense at all. Anyways, further to that point, I had done, and if you have not washed it, you should jump into the Epstein series that we paused, because this happened where we, we talked about that the hand of Midas making these people, executives we're more successful because we're brighter. No, you're more successful because you're more corrupt. You're willing to lie, ste, cheat, steal and kill actually to get what it is, whatever it is that you want. And the Jeffrey Epstein story has all of those elements, right? And our government, I think actually it was the day that Charlie was killed, quietly, voted, we're not gonna actually release any Epstein files.

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Wow. How do they, how do they maneuver that? Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been very loud about how she is against that. As she has grown increasingly vocal and she feels the need as she did a couple of days ago, to publicly clarify that she's not suicidal. She wrote, I am not suicidal and I'm one of the happiest and healthiest people that you will meet. I have full faith in God and Jesus Christ is my Lord and savior as a sinner. I am only saved through his grace and mercy. With that said, if something happens to me, I ask you all to find out which foreign government or powerful people would take heinous actions to stop the information from coming out.

0 (37m 6s):
Not only about this issue issue, but because of the truth that I have been speaking. The people understand what I am saying. Yes, we are the people and we understand what you are saying. We understand why speech is considered so dangerous. Why the a DL creates a list that features people like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA and Candace Owens. Why speech is so dangerous is because if it carries truth, it speaks to power. And power is not truth. Power at this moment is a lie. It is a carefully woven lie everywhere, rigged against all of us. That is why I say the action that you can take, right? Don't feel hopeless. Understand they're actually panicking right now.

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What can you do in your household? Well, the first thing you can do is do not put your children in their matrix. Take your kids out of school. These sleeper cells are all across the nation, okay? And we're gonna get into this next week. I wanted to make sure that I could get more thorough and, and show to you that the Ukrainian connections that are coming across in this that are very strange, but I guess not so strange when you pay attention to the last shootings, trans shootings that have happened, the Catholic school shooting from, no, the person was scribbling in their notebook recently, the shooter in Relic. What's that about? What's that about? Why? Why? Why do we suddenly have Russian speakers that are involved in these sorts of things?

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We are looking at a program and we're gonna speak more about that because you have to understand it is dangerous. What is happening right now? It's a dangerous game. And we were playing with dangerous people. And if it ever needed to be said, I am certainly not suicidal. I'm angry. I'm angry at people that are homicidal is really what's happening. And enough is enough. And if we are not brave enough to speak out, if we are not brave enough to take that action to begin something as minor as homeschooling our kids, getting out of their system entirely, then our children are going to inherit a world in which the truly evil people have completely wrapped everything right? They have wrapped everything and they control everything. It's up to us guys. And I think we're close.

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All right, you guys comment that I wanna read from YouTube yesterday, it made me so happy. I also shared it on my Instagram a little encouragement regarding homeschooling 'cause that is what I'm pushing for. This user wrote, my sister took her 4-year-old out of school yesterday, literally started homeschooling this morning. I cannot go into detail, but I'll say this financially, they'll be tight. But she said that it is worth it. Since I saw her conviction, I volunteered myself to be his PE and music teacher as his extracurricular activities. Like they say, it takes a village in deed. I love that. I also want you to know network with moms in the area because like what you're saying, I can do pe. That's what me and another mom did. I was like, let's just figure this out. We know something is wrong, something dangerous is coming.

0 (42m 56s):
We can all feel it spiritually. And I'm telling you, these sleeper cells exist in public schools, private schools. They are there. There is a lot of evil that is happening right now. And I hope that if you guys are watching the show, you understand that I'm, I am telling you this and I would not tell you this if it was not, I I felt it spiritually and then this happened and I'm looking into things, it's not making sense. None of it makes sense. We're told left versus right, but is not that it is all of us versus them. And they're upset that we're united. By the way I saw this when they were attacking Megan Kelly, I think I I showed you yesterday. She said, well, my battle is against the left. And then they showed her a clip of me saying that it's not left or right anymore. And said, well, look, Megan, now you should attack Candace because she's allied with the left.

0 (43m 37s):
Yep, I am allied with the left and the right. Any person that is awake and realizes that that is slave slop, okay, you're never going to be able to shake the true power structure if we keep shouting at one another and not realizing that groups control extremists on both sides. They are, they are fostering. I think those extrem extremists on both sides intentionally. We'll get into more of that next week. I said I was gonna read your comments and So I should probably do that. Cajun Piner writes, we normal everyday people thank you and your team for all the hard work trying to make sense of Charlie's fateful event. I believe in the Almighty that all will come to light in Jesus' name. Amen. I believe so too.

0 (44m 17s):
I don't think they can hide it. I think we're, we're keeping their feet to the fire. We are absorbing all of these bullets, figurative bullets wherein they're attacking us, attacking our character, psychological operation, paying influencers to say, that's crazy. Don't even think about, don't even think about it. Everything was above board. We can only trust the feds tell us what happened. Right? We can't trust them at all. And I hope having learned the origin story of the a DL in their relationship with the FBI, you realize that Go read that book about Mary Fagan, written by Mary Fagan, a descendant with her same name Bill Scott writes, I came to Christ after going down so many rabbit holes ending at the same conclusion. Satan runs the world, but God wins. In the end, Christ is king.

0 (44m 57s):
So well said. Bill. Scott Camia writes, homeschool your kids two hours with you is greater than a day in a classroom. You can teach them how to learn. Thank God for my wife being determined to homeschool our two kids. Love it and have so much time to pursue their talent. It's worth it. Yeah. So I, I do the, the morning stuff for homeschooling and it obviously, I just started this week and I can tell you, I, I feel more joyful. Like there is something they're taking away from us spiritually by taking our kids for six hours a day than saying, oh. Then afterwards they have to do their activities and somehow, and somehow also find time for homework. This whole thing is crazy and stupid. Like, what are we doing? We're just like literally handing our kids over to the state and we get no time with them. Like, this is so wrong.

0 (45m 38s):
If you feel it and you need to hear that message today, you can do it. Okay? And you're gonna, you're gonna be happy once you do it. Maybe not everybody gets the new iPhone eight as soon as it drops. Maybe you're gonna have to cut expenses in some category, but you can do it. And I told you I was inspired by my sister who is very middle class, you know, and she's an accountant and she did it. She just made it. And I was like, what is my excuse? What is my excuse to not do this exact same thing? It is a blessing and I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful for my sister, for ripping the bandaid off and making me feel like a total loser for not having done it sooner. Cassandra writes, hi Candace. Love you girl. I've been following you forever. I know you are focused on Charlie Kirk case right now, but curious to know your thoughts on Greta Thunberg and the Flotilla Israel is committing and international crime right before our eyes.

0 (46m 24s):
I have not looked much into that story. I just, I covered on recent episodes how they randomly, you know, you can really see how much power Israel has because they like put her on the cover of time and then suddenly they were like, she had a octopus in a picture and they basically said she's Hamas. And it was very funny. It was very funny. It gets more and more ridiculous when you look at it. Miss Rachel and Greta Thunberg are Hamas. It's a weird angle. They're trying everything. I think they're coming a little bit undone because we're waking up. Marzi writes, Hey CANDACE, did you see Theo v's viral clip about letting Israel know that he's not going to end his own life? My goodness, why do we all have to do this? It's sad that people feel they have to make public announcements. I had not seen it, but my producer says that he pulled the clip, so let's watch it together.

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I would never take my own life. I would never take my own life. Okay, you hear that is real. I would never take my own life. I'm grateful to God for his grace in my life. I love my siblings. I have so many friends and people that love me and people that I wanna see their children grow up. I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful that I get to have a wife and meet my, and meet my own children one day. Like there's a ton of things in my life that keep me alive and hopeful, right? I wanna be able to have an impact in the world. I, those are just a few of them probably, you know, I mean, so many just moments we've shared on this show that I'm like, oh, I live for those things.

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I mean, it's ridiculous, but we do all have to say it. If you have influence and you're speaking out against Israel, you do have to kind of make that statement. And So I joined him in chorus and saying, I love my life. I love my children, I love my husband. My life is fantastic. I love all of you guys. You're such a blessing. And I would never take my own life. I have no suicidal thoughts that since I was like 18 and an angsty teenager breaking up with a boyfriend and I thought I was gonna be with forever. And I also wake up every day feeling encouraged because there are good people that are now naturally rising. And I know that what means, what that means is they have to artificially knock us outta the free markets. The a DL after this episode is gonna do what they do and call user powerful influence to call YouTube.

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Like, you know, last year, what happened to me? And I'm prepared for that battle because I know that we cannot let our children inherit this world. We cannot allow our children to inherit a, a satanic a, a satanic organization that is happening across all of our countries simply because we were cowards. That can't be the thing. So I love Theo Bond. He's great. I love that he has found so much success. He cracks me up. He really does. He's so funny And so talented and we need him. We need everybody that's in this fight that has a platform. Paul t writes, I'm in the private security sector.

0 (49m 20s):
I see a lot of investigations. There is not only one group involved here and they don't all want the same things. This whole operation seems very rushed. It's sloppy. Was Charlie planning to expose people? Maybe Charlie had the power to expose people. And like I said, and I've put that out to turning Point USA, because now I want to war with people that are lying and allowing this ridiculous narrative that Israel is fighting for, that he died basically for Israel. He's loved us so much and not that he was explicit that he was left with no choice but to become anti-Israel because of their behavior. What they were doing to him and what they do to everybody. They did to me. They're gonna do it right now to Meg Kelly.

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Like I said, actually I said that yesterday and then somebody tagged me and there are all these articles. It's starting. The Hornet's nest has been kicked. The bees are buzzing around me. Kelly, do what we say, we're your friend. Don't worry, we love you. Do it. Or else. Yeah. This is how it goes. And that's how it went with Charlie. And I only wish, I only wish Charlie had listened to me. I think I think about this conversation that Charlie and I had in the Trump Hotel, and it was pertaining to money. And I, I told him, I looked him in the face. I sat there and I said to him, hotel, Trump Hotel in DC you have to be very careful who you take money from and what you are doing, what you are willing to do for a check.

0 (50m 40s):
I, I think because I was from sort of the opposite side of the tracks, I had better instincts about that. You know, like I, I've always had to kind of survive and to survive. You gotta have good instincts. You gotta know that just because it's wearing a ball gown and is at Mar-a-Lago doesn't mean that it's not a gangster. It's no different. It's no different from where Jay-Z Cave from in the project selling crack. It's just wearing a ball gown. It's at Mar-a-Lago, but that's still a gangster. I can recognize a gangster and I don, I don't think Charlie believes that or saw that until it was I think, too late. A snake girl writes, I really love and appreciate everything that you're doing. Candace, I'm in England. Would you advise I take my kids out of school immediately.

0 (51m 21s):
I would advise that to immediately, no matter where you are in the world, don't forget Germany, they're not allowed to do it. Germany. Germany, they won. Okay? The school system, the government won against your kids. You get arrested. Could you imagine being arrested for wanting to keep your kids home like it's a requirement, especially in today's world where they're getting factually speaking dumber and dumber every generation. And they're like, Nope. We have the right to make 'em dumber and dumber. We have, we have that right? And you give us your kids all day. Yes, do it while you can and fight for laws so that that can never happen where you live, that you always have a right to your own children, which is ridiculous that we have to say this, but post COVID, you saw, you'll inoculate your kids. They'll be like, actually we don't just own their minds, we own their bodies and we say 97 vaccines in order for them to be allowed to go to public school, huh?

0 (52m 10s):
I gotta let you poison my kid to let you poison their mind. I don't, this is, this is really f up. This is really f up and we gotta back away. Back away very quickly. And yeah, please guys, take your children out of the school system, start homeschooling and you will be happier. It's the most rewarding thing. It, it really is. Just the more you get of children, you are being blessed. KL Larson Wrights, you are one of the few real journalists that has any integrity. Candace and you are one of Charlie's tr few true friends. You have bigger balls than Mrs. Macron. I don't know about that. Mrs. Macron's got some pretty big balls. She's gonna bankrupt me or exposing it.

0 (52m 51s):
We'll bankrupt you. That's what they do. How dare you keep talking about the truth. We will destroy you and your life and everything that you ever know and try to turn your family against you. 'cause we're good people and we're victims always. Anyways, you guys, new Merch on the website. Thank you guys. By the way, we had so many people buy our CIA Merch. We don't know. No, but we know, we don't know. No. Okay. And soon we are gonna know no when it comes to this Charlie Kirk thing 'cause I'm getting a lot of information that's getting even more interesting. But I wanted to as always, take a few days to digest research and make sure what I am presenting to you guys has been thoroughly vetted.

0 (53m 33s):
And are we gonna make mistakes? Of course you can anticipate that somewhere, some place we're gonna make a mistake because the feds are not helping and the witness tree has gone silent and has never reached out to me. So anyways, we'll see what we come up with. We'll see you next week.

10/1/25
BREAKING NEWS: A Woman Was Seen With Charlie Kirk's Shooter | Candace Ep 246

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The countdown begins. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you that you can begin your timers because it is not going to be long until the media tries to convince you that Megan Kelly? Yes, that Meg Kelly is Adolf Hitler. I'm not kidding. It's definitely coming. There is going to be some headline in the near, near future that reads Megan Kelly is flirting with antisemitism. You can book it. Why? Because out of Nowhere and for absolutely no apparent reason at all, the agents, like I think of them as like Mr. Smith and the Matrix have arou, I guess, their surrounding Meg Kelly and demanding that she makes a statement against me and Tucker Carlson, of course, Candace Owens and Tuck Carlson.

0 (47s):
It is so bonkers. I gotta show you what they are saying to her. Before we get into that, some incredible BREAKING NEWS, we have now confirmed that there was indeed a woman who was with the Shooter in the footage that was captured by the houses nearby the area. And for whatever reason, the FBI has not yet released or even acknowledged that that footage exists. This is absolutely huge. Actually, I think this is the biggest thing that we have uncovered since the beginning of this investigation. So let's jump right back into this. Welcome back to Candace.

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Okay, so a couple of things that I wanna clarify right at the top here, because sometimes we get a ton of emails about one subject that we've already researched, and that is the case regarding First and foremost, you're seeing a lot of this chatter going around about the renting of the State Farm Stadium for Charlie Kirk's memorial service. I think there were 90,000 people that attended and then spilled over. And many people online have speculated accurately by the way. So some credit to you guys that in order to book a venue of that size, you would've had to done so in advance, right? Venue contracts do not just materialize out of nowhere for a space that holds that many people plus spillover.

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Now, given my many sources at Turning Point USA, I was able to quickly get an answer on that one for the public. The venue was indeed secured in quick order, but that was because they had help from the White House and Turning Point did not book that venue back in May. So we can formally debunk that. I was told that the White House stepped in and put in a personal phone call to the event coordinator and they actually did already have an event that was scheduled and the White House simply asked those people if they would be willing to move or reschedule their event. It was apparently supposed to be an RV show actually. And obviously given the nature of the tragedy, it was globally traumatizing to everybody.

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I think everybody was moved by Charlie Kirk's assassination. The people that held that space were willing to oblige it. So that tracks with me. That seems accurate. I just wanted to help you guys with that information. Also, another thing that I came across, and this is regarding Phil Lyman's campaign websites. You guys were asking me if we came across that yes, I I did come across that and I actually in, in the short run, didn't think much of it because I thought, okay, well he was running a campaign and he has a website and maybe people were writing in reviews and saying he was a great person. But yes, we were aware that George Zinn is one of just 20 people that is a featured endorsement.

0 (3m 35s):
He endorses Phil Lyman's character. You can see that here. George Zinn writes Rare to find a more caring man with uncompromising goals to make Utah great for generations than Phil. Lyman not a politician who can be pampered. Phil has a knowledge of urban and rural Utah from every corner and community. Utah is in desperate need of true leadership and representation. And Phil has the passion and the values to be a great governor. He needs our support. Now, I'm not sure what to make of that. I did want to use Wayback Machine to see whether or not that was a new entry. Maybe somebody is, is trolling there and no they are not. That entry has been there at least since, and I'm gonna show you this.

0 (4m 16s):
I'm way back at least since June 6th, 2024. So I don't know what to make of that. Now I will say other locals told us that George Zin, for whatever reason, is very in involved in Republican politics. Take from that what you will, meaning that he shows up to a lot of events. But of course to a lineman's, people would have been controlling that website. Certainly should have been aware of his ERO erotic character and maybe wouldn't want to have featured him on that website. I don't know. It's definitely something to consider. Some other things that are of interest. Okay, yesterday we mentioned that apparently it was kind of everybody's first day on the job, right?

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Nine 10 was everybody's first day on the, on the job. Meaning that there were a lot of these recent and brand new hires in Utah that would all kind of come across and have to deal with this case. Cash Patel, I told you, cleaned house at the state borough. He then installs a person that has a long tenure in dc, Robert Bowles, his first case is Charlie Kirk's assassination. Why would he wanna uproot and move his family to Utah after having roots in Virginia for so long? I don't know. But that is the, that's the the circumstance. Also, I told you there was a new CEO and therefore a new lead surgeon, Andrew Zenger over at the hospital, the regional hospital that Charlie was taken to, although that was not the nearest hospital from the university and it also ranked extremely low in terms of the most best equipped hospital, if you will, to deal with the sort of trauma that Charlie was suffering from a neck wound obviously.

0 (6m 0s):
So it's very strange. I think it would be interesting to learn whether or not that new CEO and surgeon worked on Charlie. That's something that I would like to find out. If you know that information, please send it to us at tips at Candace Owens dot com. Okay? That's not it though. There were all also some other new people, and I forgot to mention the judge that is in the case that is overseeing the case against Tyler Robinson is Judge Tony f Graff Jr. He was recently appointed to the fourth District court in May of 2025 by Governor Spencer Cox. I was also informed that the coroner in this case was also brand spanking new.

0 (6m 47s):
That name has not yet been released. I am told that person is new, okay? And I have also learned, I've been told that Charlie did indeed have an autopsy. I wanted to let you guys know that because I saw a lot of rumors that were circulating that he did not have an autopsy that has been been confirmed. An autopsy did take place, by the way, you should know that in the state of Utah, in case you like me, are maybe holding your breath, that we're going to see that report. Those reports are actually kept private, so there isn't going to be some big release outside of what maybe the immediate family members wishing for that and saying, I feel like something's wrong and I would now like to release the autopsy report.

0 (7m 27s):
That's the only way that we are going to be able to see it. That's at least what I've learned. Now, let's jump back into what actually took place on that day because I'm starting to get a bit of a stronger hunch about things. We'll jump back in here regarding Shaner Broderick, who is according to Phil Lyman a, a cousin who Keith refers to Phil as his uncle across interviews, doesn't matter, their family members is the main point and they know each other. And Shaner Broderick has of course mysteriously deleted all of his socials except for Instagram, but he's wiped his Instagram. Okay? Just deleted his Facebook and just outright deleted his LinkedIn page because I asked him a question before we even went live.

0 (8m 12s):
That was his response, okay? Now he did this not before I grabbed everything that I needed from his pages, I just had a suspicion that he might not be willing to participate, and I was operating under the assumption that he might just privatize his socials. So I instructed my team to grab everything before I even made contact. Now, what I did not anticipate was that he would delete the content. Okay? Why would, why would he delete the content? That part never wasn't tracking for me. It didn't make sense to me. Now, it sort of maybe does make a lot of sense to me.

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So you'll recall that we had received a lead live on the show. Someone paid money to inform us that there was footage that the FBI was hiding, right? She wrote in said, I had been trying to reach out to you everywhere. The FBI is hiding footage. The doorbell cam footage had more, this is what the person told us. She said, the Shooter is then seen changing his clothes, and he is with a woman. She told me, and then she gives me a name, and that name was another Lyman family member. And that's when my Spidey senses started tingling. I'm like, okay, this is a lot of lys. Now I wanna be very clear and fair to Phil Lyman.

0 (9m 33s):
He has been forthcoming about the fact that his family owned that property. Like they own everything there. That is not mysterious. He's not hiding that fact. UVU in many ways purchased the university from his family, right? That the, the acreage from his family for that university. But I did feel that if that is the case, obviously then Phil Lyman would in theory, be able to access that, access that footage, right? Be able to speak to his family members. And yeah, I didn't want to come out and say that it was a fact that the woman, that there was a woman with the Shooter without any proof we had no, we had no proof outside of this person.

0 (10m 18s):
And what she was saying felt real to me definitively, but I needed something more solid. Well, we came across something more solid. We reviewed the footage that Shaner brought it. Of course we downloaded everything but hadn't actually reviewed it had wiped from the internet. And yeah, the proof is in the pudding, and I'm gonna let you hear it. Now to set this up, you will recall that Shaner and his close friends that nobody knows, apparently they were retracing the footsteps of the killer. They were at his grandma's house, he said, and he's speaking on camera with his aunt to set this footage up for you. And sure enough, you're gonna hear right in the beginning, his aunt is going to mention that there was a woman who was helping the Shooter, and she's not sure whether or not that person wasn't accomplished.

0 (11m 8s):
I, I know I would say if you're helping, you're helping the Shooter, you were an accomplish accomplice. But somehow we all missed this in this actual clip that Shaner had posted and has since been white from the internet. Take a listen,

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If you tty, how long it took him to get from that little part over to here was way longer than it should have been. So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff, like if there is an accomplice. Sorry, you're

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Filming. And it said right here, that picture from Sam's across the street, he was right here. Yep.

0 (11m 42s):
So you see she's talking about the Shooter and she says, I was wondering if the girl had given him stuff. And then somebody off camera says, you know, you're filming. And she says, I'm sorry that you're filming, but it's very clear, there's no question at all. In fact, leading into that, which we should have maybe cut that a little bit earlier, they're speaking about how she thought the FBI had it wrong. The timing didn't make sense to her, and she, that that's what she starting with. I don't, you know, the, the timing doesn't make sense to me because I thought that it took a little longer for him to walk. Let's play that again, Skyler, just so they can hear it again. She says that there's a girl take a listen

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If you time, how long it took him to get from that little part over to here was way longer than it should have been. So I wondered if the girl had given him stuff, like if there isn't a accomplice, sorry, you're

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Filming. And it said right here, that picture from Sam's across the street, he was right here. Yep.

0 (12m 35s):
Okay, so we have the woman who was my source who said that the FBI cut the footage and she was certain of it. And now we have actually the woman who handed over her footage to the FBI saying, I wondered if that woman Wasn an accomplice. Ladies and gentlemen, what the heck is going on? Who was the woman that was with the alleged Shooter? Why wouldn't the FBI immediately released that? Now again, you should recall that the very next morning on September the 11th, TMZ already had the doorbell cam footage. Okay? So that means that the FBI already had the footage, right?

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They would have seen that there was a woman with the Shooter. And yet they chose during this manhunt, during this 33 hour manhunt, not to inform the public that they were also looking for a woman who this lady believes. She wondered whether or not she would've been an accomplice if that that was his accomplice. What happened to this lady? Who is the girl, the woman that was in this footage? Guys, I don't know. What are your ideas here? Why would the FBI not tell us something? So evidently crucial to this story that we have a woman that's involved.

0 (14m 1s):
Was she, what does she look like? How old is she? I obviously did the, the sensible thing, right? I reached out to Phil Lyman because it's his family, and I asked him whether or not he would be willing to track down this footage for me. And he's not happy with me. He is angry. I mean, he said really not nice things to me. He started asking me if I had something to do with the shooting, okay? And I basically just stayed focused and said, Phil, okay, we showed your footage. He's very upset about cousin versus nephew thing. It's, I said, it's all irrelevant if you're saying you actually want to help us catch the killer, right?

0 (14m 42s):
If that's really where your heart was, if that's really why you injected yourself so much into this story, why wouldn't you? Knowing how deeply I care about this, walk over while you're in the neighborhood popping by, walk over to your aunt, grandma, cousins, I don't care whose house and say, Hey, you said there was an accomplice, that there was a woman. Okay, that might have been an accomplice. Do you mind letting me see the raw footage so that I can hand it over to Candace? In fact, how about just giving me any of the footage that your family rushed to give ATM Z, why did they rush to give it to TMZ by the way, you, that you definitely were at, you said you were at your cousin's house and that you hadn't seen the footage.

0 (15m 23s):
You were watching it live with Kaylee McEnany on Fox News. That's what you said during that segment, right? I'm, this is the first time I'm seeing this footage. So apparently your cousin close enough to go to their house, but your cousin decides to give the footage to TMZ before you can even see it. Okay? Maybe, maybe the feds gave it, that's another assumption. That's the only two options. Either your cousin gave it to TMZ or the feds gave a portion of it to tmz, which begs the question, why were we not told about the woman who was the woman? We should now all be putting a lot of pressure on the FBI to make a statement about why the woman who handed over her footage, I have now twice confirmed in her own mouth and from a source that there was a lady in that footage with the Shooter.

0 (16m 7s):
So why are they worried about that being caught on camera? Oh, sorry. Didn't realize you were filming. What's that about? It's like everybody knows something that I don't know, and I, I wanna be in the know on what happened to Charlie Kirk on nine 10. So do you have any tips pertaining to who the woman was that was caught? Please let me know. I am going to try again to reach out to this family since I don't think that Phil Lyman wants to assist me. He doesn't like me, that's fine. I wonder if he likes truth, if he likes trying to solve this thing, that would be great as well. If he doesn't wanna talk to me, I'm happy to put me in touch with another journalist. But if you know something more and you'd like to reach out to us, please do reach out to us on social media.

0 (16m 51s):
And I please ask again that you guys reserve not sending us videos and tiktoks and links, but rather, if you have information, please use tips@canones.com. I love you all, and I love that the whole world wants to know what happened, and I'm grateful for that. But there are just, there's only so much data that an inbox can take, and we might have to just make a second, a second line. So I think we should do, Skylar, we should talk about that. Okay? Now we, we turn our attention back to the mysterious individual that is next to Shaner, right? We discovered that one person was from Austria, and then we're going, who's this goth kid that Phil has been clear? He does not know him. Phil Limon does not know this individual.

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Could I help identify him? I told you it was unusual that our inbox wasn't instantly flooded with people telling us exactly who it was. Well, then we did get another hit on him. And a handful of you similarly found the same person that we did a person going by the name Robbie Hild, who was allegedly from Washington. Now, let me tell you why I don't think this is his true identity, okay? Because if this was just some kid who grew up in Washington and went to school in Utah, my inbox would be flooded with that name and it's not okay. It's simply not. Oddly, no one has come forward to claim that they know Robbie Hill.

0 (18m 12s):
They're all just saying, I got a hit. I got a hit. This might be him. No one is saying they went to school with him. This is a, a young college student. He's allegedly, like I said, from Washington State, and no one personally can say, I know this person. How could that be? How could that be? I'm gonna tell you something because I'm starting to get a hunch about things, and we're gonna go more deeply into this tomorrow, but many of you guys have been sending those clues about the AOV Battalion, about Ukrainian Russian people that were coming into Utah. There seems to be some organized movement people that are being given new identities. Actually, one person wrote to us and told us that UVU in and of itself as a campus has an unbelievable amount of dedication.

0 (18m 59s):
I mean, even the presidents, I'm, I'm blanking on her name, it like majored in Soviet studies, like they have a, a direct pipeline from Russia to America. It's very interesting and yes, it is true, it is a fact that Tyler Robinson, we can't confirm that this is Mike Mitchell, but there are old photos of Tyler Robinson when he's a lot younger visiting his uncle Mikey, okay? His uncle Mikey, who is working with the Ukrainian AV Battalion, okay? He's a military man. And that gets really interesting when I start to combine all of the aspects of this case, and again, we are still in theory territory, but I feel like we are in strong, I'm starting to get a stronger than a theory and more of a hunch that this was a, a military operation and people that executed this are actually from overseas.

0 (19m 55s):
And when you look at the aspects of the UVU case and they're strong ties to that region, things get really interesting when you look at UVU campus and there strong ties to the CIA, things start to get really interesting, right? And I, I think this is a path that needs to be pursued, that these people have different identities and that they are perhaps all from overseas. And it turns out that there have been, the New York Times has reported on Russian Ukrainian spies that are building new lives from themselves with new IDs in America, in Brazil, essentially what we're talking about are, are terrorist cells.

0 (20m 35s):
I believe that. I believe that what the Ukrainian war, okay? And they always hack us emotionally, oh, oh, we need to have open borders. It allows them to get in people that are perhaps completely insane and deranged, and they are in fact raising little militants in their extreme these programs. And let me tell you, if this is correct, if this is sort of like a, a neo bolshevik, tr militant tribe, then we need to be concerned. And spiritually, I can tell you how I feel spiritually, that feels right to me. I've been pleading with you guys to get your kids out of these schools. I am telling you that something very dark is going on, and I'm going to continue to stress to you that you need to take your children out of school, homeschool your children.

0 (21m 21s):
I, there is, there is something dark that I am perceiving that is happening not just in public schools, but in private schools as well, okay? Why our kids had to go. We, we couldn't get basic answers about somebody that had kind of fallen into the PR and through the cracks and was posting Polish underground symbols. Her, her, her parent was posting Polish underground symbols. And I realized something was wrong, something was off. I'm showing you this, just, this is like one headline, and this is translated from Russia by Russian, By the way. So the, the English here isn't perfect, but it is telling about White Lotus sect of all things. For those you that followed the becoming projet series and things that we have spoken about, about this White Lotus idea, it's essentially they're training fighters and that this has been declassified and that they have these regional organizations, these all Ukrainian organizations, and that exactly what it sounds like, that they're training of fighters, that it's really dangerous.

0 (22m 21s):
And my suspicion is that this is happening right here in America. It would make sense that there is global communication if they want to take somebody out. And it is also a fact by the way that Charlie was on a, a hit list. I also was on the hit list. Tucker was on the hit list, and actually I forgot the name of the individual that worked for Alex Jones who got killed, but he was similarly on a Ukrainian hit list. It's something that I think should be explored a little bit further. And like I said, we're gonna go deeper on that topic on, we'll actually do that tomorrow and we'll bring in the aspects and show you whether or not, you know, uncle Mikey could be Mike Mitchell, could he be the detective?

0 (23m 3s):
But I'm just seeing these recurring themes of the military for whatever reason. I'm also seeing a recurring theme of child abuse and a recurring theme of people who appear to have changed their name and that are operating in the shadows and something is not right. Again, a theory that is now turning into a very strong hunch. More on that tomorrow.

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What can I say, you guys? The world is very clearly changing and it is changing fast. Okay? Two years ago, the mere idea that you might share a perspective that Jews are controlling the media that would be considered anti-Semitic, you would be called a Jew hater. Fast forward to 2025 and beeping net, and Yahoo is now hosting an on-camera meeting with American social media influencers to talk about how they're going to shape us opinion.

0 (26m 8s):
It's, I I, I honestly, my eyes, I was going, this can't be real. Like it's, they're not even hiding it anymore, right? It is like, first it was a conspiracy theory. Now it's like, here's what we gonna do, okay? And what are we gonna do? How are we gonna, how are we gonna beat out all of these independent voices who are winning because they're telling the truth? So Debra Lee asked Bibi Netanyahu specifically about Charlie Crooks has assassination and the potential loss of evangelical support for the state of Israel because of it, which by the way, is going to be the consequence of this. It will be the consequence of this because they lied after he died and it pissed me off. Okay? Take a listen to what Deborah asks.

4 (26m 51s):
So something I would like to raise, which was actually my first published paper, was how you and the party are cut from the same ideological cloth as Trump and the GOP in America. And so specifically with Charlie Kirk's assassination, who was a big mentor of mine, she's my first mentor in the space Evangelicals from all my research evangelicals are the reason that Israel has been supported in public sphere outside of just views. So with Charlie's assassination and with the con and of trajectory that we see with like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, I guess I'm curious about what's another game plan if we lose evangelical support for the state of Israel, what's our backup plan to be strong, like outside of the diaspora?

0 (27m 32s):
Okay, first off, I don't know why it's always me and Tucker Carlson. Why, why is it always Tucker Carlson and Ka Owens? Like, can it be anybody else? It's like, what? We have nothing to do with one another. I've been on his show twice, twice on his independent show. I just love Tucker. I do, I'm a fan. I'm not gonna lie, but I, I feel like they, they're starting to think we're the same person. Tucker Carlson and Canon Owens, Tucker Carlson and Canon Owens over and over again. But listen to Bebe's response because prepare yourself. What he is saying is that they are about to launch a psychological war on Americans. Take a listen to what he says.

5 (28m 6s):
Christian influencers. Okay, you said we talked about the woke, right? And he said, I call it the woke, right? That's a brilliant, the woke, right? Because these people, you know, they're not any different from the woke left. I mean, they're, they're insane. They're the reason, but they're actually meeting on some of the things. And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of our, the base of our support in the United States that is being challenged systematically. A lot of this is done with money, money of NGOs, vast money of governments master, okay?

5 (28m 47s):
We have to fight back. How do we fight back our influencers? I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance to, that that community, they're very important. And secondly, we're gonna have to use the tools of battle. You know, the, the weapons change over time. You can't fight today with the swords. That doesn't work very well, okay? And you can't find with the fight with cavalry, that doesn't work very well. And you have these new things, you know, like drones, things like that. I won't get into that. But we have to fight with the weapons that apply to the battlefields in which we're engaged. And the most important ones are the social media. And the most important purchase that is going on right now is class.

5 (29m 30s):
Followers.

4 (29m 31s):
Followers,

5 (29m 34s):
TikTok. TikTok, number one. Number one, and I hope it goes through because it's, it can be consequential. And the other one, what's the other one that's most important? Oh, Alex, X, XX. Oh, exactly. Sa poor. Very good. And you know, so we have to talk to Ilan. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. We should talk to him. Now, if we can get those two things, we get a lot, and I could go on on other things, but that's not the point right now. We have to fight the fight, okay? To take, give direction to the Jewish people and give direction to our non-Jewish friends or those who could be our Jewish, our friends. Are we gonna succeed with everyone?

5 (30m 14s):
No. Will there be a strong counterpart? Yes.

0 (30m 19s):
Okay. So like we're allowed, we're allowed to say Israel controls the media now, okay? I think where like, that's just like on camera now. There will be no dispute about this. The fact that you have a foreign leader, it's incredible. You have a foreign leader who is sitting up there saying that he wants his agents, he needs the, he needs the deal to go through. Which By the way, let's call out Donald Trump right now, okay? All of the acting. We don't want China, we don't want China to own TikTok. And I'm worried about your dad. I note you wanted to hand it over to your Zionist friends, okay? It was all a mirage, okay? It was all theater. Donald Trump has sold us out to Israel once again. Okay? So he's saying, I want this deal to go through and we know who's a part of that deal. It's Larry Ellison who has made, he's very clear about fact.

0 (31m 2s):
He's an agent of Israel, Andreesen Horowitz, the son of David Horowitz, David Horowitz from which all of the connections, Prager hug, I could tell you the stories. Prager u David Horowitz Foundation DA and Ben Shapiro, all of them related in their beginnings in Los Angeles. So he's basically saying, we need to take over TikTok because what are they gonna do if they've already done, they're gonna censor speech. The reason that they got on board, just like the a DL spokesperson said when he was caught on the mic was like, we need to do something about TikTok. And now they're doing the thing, right? They're gonna take over TikTok and they're gonna ban your speech. It's happening right now. The second that, that CEO who said she was a proud Zionist, or, well, maybe she wasn't the CEO, but one of the executives there that they installed immediately after she said she was a proud Zionist and, you know, spent time in Israel, we saw instantly that our content was getting strikes.

0 (31m 54s):
You can't say anything bad right now about Israel on TikTok, and this is because it's what BB net and Yahoo has willed, right? They want to censor speech, which was something that Charlie was very worried about. He was very worried about what Israel was doing to come inward on speech. And I have those text messages with him. And yeah, so that's actually happening. We are going to be, we we're gonna become subject to a psychological operation. This is what they do. You can see it on X. There's all of these, like, I call them military bots and they, they're just like sock puppets who just say wonderful things about Israel all the time. You can see them in my comments. They just like the Israel flag over and over and over again. And that's what they wanna subject Americans to. And they think that that is going to, in the long run, bring people lower to their side.

0 (32m 37s):
It's the exact opposite, obviously. Okay? It's so dumb to think. It's like, it's like, have you, have you even gone through basic parenting 1 0 1? You're gonna tell these people that they are gonna be forced to like and support your country. They're most certainly not going to. And instead they're going to see you as what you are, which is problematic. No business as a foreign leader speaking publicly about how you're planning to take over social media sites in America. Because opinion against your country has rightfully shifted, okay? Because opinion has rightfully shifted against your country on the basis of your behavior, right? Like, like Charlie said, on the basis of your behavior, okay, you are be you, you fall into every stereotype.

0 (33m 22s):
The stereotypes wouldn't exist if we didn't behave this way. That's the reality. You, you're on camera, you don't, you have zero shame in saying this. You're, you could have said anything there, right? Like a person would say, wow, we want to get out the truth, we wanna be better people. We wanna commit ourselves to not killing hundreds of thousands of children. That that, and I think that people will start to let us again. He's like, no, we just need to crush them. We need to crush speech by controlling speech in America. And that's their plan is look no further than this random attack that Meg Kelly is going through, okay? For no reason at all. And I was, I hate to say this, but I was laughing reading Constantine Kissing's tweets and what they were saying to her, because I lived it, I lived, I lived what Meg Kelly's going through.

0 (34m 6s):
I lived what Charlie was going through. Were suddenly you realized these people that are pretending to be your friends, but like I'm your friend, I care about you are actually like agents. And that's why I say they're Mr. Smith from the Matrix and they're real close to ruining your life if you don't do what they want. Okay? So for no reason at all, I'll, I'll tell you how this transpired. Megan Kelly tweeted her episode and said, listen to Charlie in his own words about what he was going through. And for whatever reason, Florida dab, which is one of these like zio bot accounts that constantly tweets in favor of Israel, wrote this to Meghan. We can pull this up. He writes, if you can't separate yourself from Candace Owens, many of us are going to separate ourselves from you.

0 (34m 49s):
She didn't mention anything about me. He says, we do not have to align with everyone that claims to be of the right when their motives and history are as shady as hers. Meg Kelly and I have no attachment. So the idea that he's demanding that she what make a statement against me is insane. She replies, she holds a line. She says, look at this. No, I have no obligation to quote unquote separate myself from anyone. I run my own media company and my own show. That show is where I express my own opinions and I will decide what and what not to opine on. If you need me to condemn Candace or Tucker for their opinions in order to listen to me, then I may not be for you. He's a close friend and she's under enough pressure without gratuitous shots from me.

0 (35m 30s):
My fight is with the left, not these two. Like kudos to Meghan Ke like what? And yes, she is friends with Tucker, they've been friends for a very long time and yeah, I'm kind of taking a lot of bullets right now. So I thank you Megan, for not just taking a gratuitous swipe 'cause I'm breathing over here and, but it's not enough. So then they bring the other agent Stan kissing, which by the way, there's gonna be a day where I just released everybody's family genealogy. His, his astonishing. But these are all agents of Israel. Let's be very clear. Stan kissing then jumps in and and says, here's the problem, here's a free speech warrior Stan kissing. The problem with this approach, which many on the right are taking, is that this is exactly how the left allowed in its own extremists were extremists to fi, to first flourish and then to become the face of the entire movement.

0 (36m 13s):
If you agree with Candace and Tucker, people will respect that. But to many of us, their behavior is so extreme And so deranged that the idea that it can be simply ignored because your fight is quote unquote with the left doesn't wash. You have always been a great principled truth seeking journalists. So too many of your admirers like me, the question might be if you agree with them, fine, but if you don't, why isn't your fight with them? This is almost verbatim, it's like scary to me because I'm like, are they, this is like military training almost verbatim a text message that I received from Marissa Stright when I like retweeted Max Blumenthal. I think once when he said something that I totally agreed with, and then like all of the agents like Dave Rubin, all of them were like, don't you see what you did?

0 (36m 58s):
And they make it that you're going crazy, but they kind of pretend to be your friend. And you're like, what did I do wrong? Like I just said, genocide is always wrong. I just retweeted Max Blumenthal. Something they said that was sensible. And they come in and they're like, I understand what you're doing. I'm your friend, but I worry that other people are gonna see what you're doing and not understand. And it just, you know, I want you to be okay 'cause we're just wondering, like we all agree that that's bad, right? So why don't you just say what I'm telling you to say, Meg, or you're gonna get it, we're gonna ruin your effing life. That's the subtext Meg. That is the subtext. Megan, I can promise you that. I lived it. I lived it. There's no halfway with these people. I'm telling you there's no halfway, she didn't do anything. She shared her episode and said, if you wanna hear Charlie Kirk in his own words, here it is.

0 (37m 40s):
That is literally what they're responding to. And now they're going to pretend to be her friend. So she responds to him and she says, the more one insists that I say or one demands me to the more committed I get in my refusal. This was Charlie. This was Charlie. He was like, I'm done. I'm just done. I'm digging my heels in because they know what this is. Okay? Megan is an adult, she's also quite brilliant. She's not going to fall for this, should I call it babble, right? Stance, kissing. And you're, you're sitting here trying to, oh just I love you, but she like try to manipulate a toddler. She's not stupid. And he says, I demand nothing of you and I coming from a position of great respect, I'm simply asking why it is that you don't believe that lies told by prominent people on the right shouldn't be challenged in the way that we all challenge lies told by people on the left.

0 (38m 24s):
And she said, your response proves the opposite of what it purports to she sees right through him. Of course she does. 'cause she's not a child. Okay? This is how the agents work. They pretend to be your friend. And I'm telling you, if she doesn't buck as that what they want, they will. There we will whip you and you will buck and, but you will buck by making a strong statement against Candace sos Tucker Carlson. When we demand it, then they will send the next layer, which is a full blown press attack. The press that they do not control, by the way, they do not control the press. That's antisemitic. I wanna be very clear. Don't control it, but they will control it when they come after her. If she doesn't do what they say, watch that space. You guys watch that space. Okay? I wanna make sure that I, I get to some of your comments because a lot of you guys have been writing in a first one.

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All Right guys, what is on your mind? I always feel like I get in trouble in the comment section.

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0 (42m 13s):
Oh, I wanted to read this email that came in because Turning Point had the USU event last night that went back to Utah and returned, made a big splash about that. And this person attended and wrote this to me. It reads Dear Candace tonight, which is September 30th, 2025. Several friends and myself attended the T-P-U-S-A event at Utah State University. There was full agreement that all were disappointed. The event was scripted, the allowance of open dialogue was absent, and the entire presentation lacked authenticity. I'm happy to answer any questions about specifics, but if this is how T-P-U-S-A is two PUSA is going to proceed, then it will not be successful. I fully agree with you that if this is the vibe, the vibe that we're getting and catching right now, they're not gonna be successful.

0 (42m 58s):
Okay? You're never smarter than your audience. I say it over and over again, everyone perceives that something is not right and we are not getting the truth and they are too. Mum and I, I definitely know I, I got received other emails of people saying that they felt that it was very much controlled, but I feel like it gets to a, a, a more broader point, which is that nothing that is fake will survive in the long run. Okay? And there's a lot of fakeness and gayness that is happening right now and yesterday. It's why I just went ahead and took a shot at the beast. I will not allow them to turn turning point USA into a company that is chilling for Israel. I have people that are telling me that they're handing out T-P-U-S-A faith packets and like Israel has mentioned eight times, someone submitted it to me, I read it, it's ridiculous.

0 (43m 42s):
And I know who's behind that. I do. And So I don't know where they're going if they're trying to sync Charlie's company, it worked. Turning Point worked because Charlie was authentic, okay? Whether you agreed with him or not, I can tell you Charlie, authentically when we started out loved Israel for the, the same reasons we went to Israel together, you know, he authentically believed and, and, and, and loved Israel. And then he authentically was seeing what their tactics were, how they were trying to control speech. And he perceived them to be problem problematic. And it was their behavior that turned 'em against them. And the fact that they are discontinuing that behavior now and just trying to pretend that the last part didn't happen, it sickens me.

0 (44m 26s):
It won't survive unless there is more truth and, and we should absolutely demand it. There is a note here from my producer from Erica Mendel, who is an American Israeli Jewish former IDF soldier currently serving as the, oh, that's her name, right? Erica Mendel. She's the public policy manager of hate speech. And she's been at TikTok since July of this year. And she's like, yeah, whatever. I'm IDF soldier and it's now war and we own this, we own this space. So of course the deal is going to go through if they're already putting IDF soldiers in control of monitor monitoring our speech, which means we only have to get louder and maybe we'll just choose a different platform in general if this is the direction that they wanna go. In Basel powerhouses writes, Hey Candace, would you want to debate?

0 (45m 7s):
The more prominent commentators like Ben Shapiro, Brandon Tatum, and PBD on the topics of Israel, Mossad and Palestine, they all have hinted and danced around calling you anti-Jewish, genetically speaking and excessive in their videos. I would debate PBDI would debate Ben Shapiro. I wouldn't debate Brandon Tatum because I love Brandon Tatum like a brother, and nobody wins in that scenario. I've just known him like I know Brandon. I came up with him and Charlie and I just know him as like a human being. And there are some things that to me are just like, are bigger than politics. And so any conversation or debate that I'm gonna have with Brandon will be treated in the same way. Like the debates that I would've had with Charlie. You know, Charlie and I never threw each other under any buses publicly.

0 (45m 49s):
And when we did disagree, we had those disagreements privately. And so the, I would say the same about Brandon Tatum and I hope that clarifies a lot of people were asking me about Brandon. He has been there for me. He's been there for my family. He's just, I see him as a human and not a, a political opponent. So that's my honest truth there. Rachel Day says, is it me or is it strange that not a single security guard pulled a gun once shots rang out? I'm praying for you Candace, and I'm grateful for this reporting. We cannot claim ignorance here. Virtual hug from a homeschool mom just started the homeschooling thing this week. They're adorable. Yes. I think it is strange actually. I thought about that after the fact and they seem to know that not more was coming.

0 (46m 32s):
Now you could also, if we're being charitable, say that you're just, you know, you are just so overwhelmed and you, you jump and you just are trying to save Charlie. But you would think that one person would've been guarding holding a gun, especially if you're trained to do these things. And the amount of money that they were making off of Charlie, 'cause Charlie ended up buying during Point USA ended up taking on that security firm. Yeah, you are kind of not the person that's allowed to freak out in those situations. And a lot of mistakes were made and a lot of things have not been explained. The Menagerie by Dr. Lee writes one of Tyler Robinson's lawyers, Michael Burt previously represented Richard Ramirez, AKA, the Night Stalker.

0 (47m 12s):
Ramirez was in the same jail as Sean Penn in 1987 who was serving 33 days. How do you feel about Tyler's legal team? I've not explored that. I have been so hyper-focused people. I know you guys have been like, have you seen this? Have you seen that? I wanna solve who did this right? And I wanna do it in a way that makes sense to me. I'm a timeline person. I'm very good at gathering data and intel, vetting that information that I'm getting and sharing it with the public in a way that they can digest. There's a lot of different rabbit holes that should be chased. That's definitely one of them. But my main focus right now is trying to figure out who else was involved on that day. Who was the lady that was in that photo? Marsy writes this just in the FBI just cut ties with the A DL after Turning point USA criticism.

0 (47m 58s):
They share a building just FBI and a DL share a building. They're one and the same. I hope you guys know that they share a building, I think in Connecticut also Israel is taking over express VPN and other VPN websites. I always had a conspiracy about that. I used to read ads for them. Express VPN, when I was working for Daily Wire. And I, in back of my mind, I was like, it would make sense that they would train us to actually filter. There's so much data. So they're like, actually, why don't you pretend that this VPN hides things And so that we know exactly where to look. And once I found that it was started by an Israeli billionaire, I was like, yeah, no, that's gonna be a spying thing. That's how I felt at least. I was like, they're just gonna see what you wanna hide and go straight there. So you're basically taking on the process of filtering for them.

0 (48m 44s):
That's my conspiracy theory. One of many that I have, as you guys know, because you listen to the show, Lily writes, first they made a false statement about Candace not being friends with Charlie. They pushed through their minions in the media. Now they planted a fake letter in the same New York Post and their minions, Candace must be up to something. Yeah, I know who had access to Charlie's laptop and I have questions about that, but I'm gonna wait for the financial report to come out, which I'm not handling. And I got question marks about a couple of people of our turning point USA and yeah, I think we should definitely be speaking about the shady pastors. I hope this is the year of the shady pastor after operation mocking pastor learning why they can say, oh, we don't take money from Israel, but they take money from an agent of Israel or an organization like the, you know, international Fellowship of Christian and Jews, which if you go to their website, it's basically like, Hey Christians, here's what you can do for Jews.

0 (49m 36s):
There's nothing that's spoken about what Christians are going through. And you, they, you know, flood money into that and they get you to say that it's like a fellowship program, but then they have you like gathering pastors and paying off people. I mean, it's, it's an ugly business and I think it's about to all get exposed. I think it was a bad idea to kill Charlie Kirk. That's what I think. I think the devil overplayed his hand because that's what the devil does. The devil is arrogant. The devil has no friends. I remind people that the devil is an orphan. And what I mean by that is if you pledge allegiance to the devil, just, just so you know, he will turn on you too. Okay? You're only as useful to him as you are an idiot to him.

0 (50m 17s):
If you're willing to do his bidding, he will play ball. And as soon as you are not, he does not care about you. You mean nothing to him. You are dealing with a, a true psychopathic individual who cares about nothing more than their own selfish goals. That's what I believe. Anyways, I want to again remind you guys that we have new Merch. Finally, after so many messages, we made it happen. We should done it sooner. Obviously we don't know. No, but we know and soon ladies and gentlemen, we will know. No, we'll know. No, I'm a Charlie Kirk story. You can head to Candace Owens dot com if you'd like to buy Merck. That's how you can support the show.

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We actually are not funded by any outside groups. We are taking influence from nobody other than the people that write to our tips box. We are being heavily influenced by them. I will say that, and I remind you, please, please, we love you all, but only if you have a tip that can help us crack this mystery. I do think that we're gonna get into a rush in a Ukrainian angle here for some, some reason, some way somehow. We'll see. See you guys tomorrow.

9/30/25
DEAD OR ALIVE: Who Betrayed Charlie Kirk? | Ep 245


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I just wanna say that I feel like at the beginning of this investigation, I was very clear. I said, there will be no fakeness and there will be no gayness in this investigation. And apparently there were some people who did not take me seriously or literally because there were a lot of little lies being told, right? Charlie gets assassinated, and the very people who were threatening him, reputationally and financially are now trying to memorialize him as having died as a friend of Israel. Okay? Challenge accepted, all lies will be revealed, and we're going to help reveal those lies. Also, yesterday we asked for the public's help in identifying two individuals who Phil Lyman's nephew described as his close friends who decided to retrace the path of Charlie's killer.

2 (1m 22s):
And what we have discovered thus far is absolutely stunning. This story couldn't get any crazier. By the way, I did speak to Phil Lyman, and I'll tell you what he told me and what he insisted that we clarify. Now, I would say that it's getting weird, but honestly, right from the jump, it's been weird. So Welcome back to Candace. It took him a little over two weeks, but now BB Netanyahu with maybe a little help from Turning Point USA, I'm thinking is releasing the letter, the May Love letter from Charlie Kirk to Israel.

2 (2m 7s):
Just out of nowhere, he just overcome with love for Israel. And he decided to write this love letter to the Prime Minister about how they could fight harder, how they commit themselves further to the Israeli cause. We're gonna get to that, and we're just gonna slaughter that narrative that Charlie died pro-Israel. But first, I want to jump right back into what we uncovered yesterday to keep you guys focused. I presented to you guys in short that the gubernatorial candidate, Phil Lyman, was a bit, in my opinion too, involved in the investigation of who assassinated Charlie Kirk. Just, he was saying and doing a little too much, and his energy was weird, and the energy of Tiffany Barker was weird.

2 (2m 53s):
And we were clear. That's potentially just because, you know, he's a politician or an aspiring politician. Maybe he wants to assert himself as a leader in Utah. This assassination has taken place, but I also felt like maybe he potentially knew a bit more than he was letting on. Now, the Lyman family in general was everywhere all over this investigation. We introduced, and I, I said his name was Shane. I'd like to correct that record. His nephew, Shaner Broderick, who rather notoriously retraced the footpath of the killer with his two close friends. They were like, here, here it is. The converse footprint is right here. They even created a map, okay?

2 (3m 35s):
Shaner even created a map of where exactly the killer walked, and the media used his map. And of course, the Lyman's car was in the driveway just 20 minutes before I, Phil Lyman reiterated to the Fox News. It was just 20 minutes before I pulled into the driveway, my aunt's house, and I parked my car. And then 20 minutes later, the killer, the killer was limping by. Now, I'll let you guys know that when our episode finished yesterday, I had a message or two from Phil Lyman, despite the fact that I had reached out to him hours before we began our show. And he was understandably upset.

2 (4m 14s):
He, at first, was sort of focusing his energy toward Nick, the person that I told you worked on his campaign and just wanted to help out in the investigation. Now, Phil would like me to clarify that Nick never worked on his campaign. And by the way, I looked back and that was actually my mistake, not Nick's. I thought that when Nick had first introduced Lyman to me over the phone, that he said, oh, like I am, you know, I, I'm working on his campaign. And apparently that was not accurate. So I take full credit for that. That was completely, again, something that I came up with by accidents. Now, the other things that he was interested in me clarifying were also not really substantive issues.

2 (5m 0s):
And I wanna say that Nick, having not worked on his campaign, actually makes it even more odd that he would stop by his house this past Saturday. Well, regarding why, by the way, he stopped by Nick's house at all on Saturday. He said that it was because he was helping Nick out early on in the investigation. Yes, that is true. I told you guys that, and Nick was particularly asking him to determine who owned a white vehicle that was parked in the neighborhood, which was nearby, where the shooter had walked. Nick lives nearby, and everyone locally had had looked at this vehicle and said that it was remarkably suspicious. And Phil had come back to him and said, I can help you d just figure out more about this vehicle that was parked.

2 (5m 46s):
Nick had nothing but a picture of that, but that was over two weeks ago. So I have no idea why that would have anything to do with why he was stopping by Nick's place. Obviously that car is long gone. It's been gone, and the fact that it appeared and then disappeared is one of the reasons why Nick wanted somebody to look into it. So I'm not entirely clear why he needed to stop at Nick's house to speak to him and what, why that would be on his list of things to do. Now, I am told, according to a very strong source, that was what Phil Wyman was doing in town on Saturday, was he was meeting with Tim Ballard. That's totally random.

2 (6m 26s):
Did not expect to hear that. Tim Ballard, if you're not familiar with him, is formerly of Operation Underground Railroad, which is a charity that is dedicated to helping to stop human sex trafficking. I even remember, by the way, when we were all speaking about that plane transponder that turned off, that the individuals that owned that plane were wearing an Operation Underground Railroad t-shirt. And So I wasn't expecting that. I am going to reach out to Tim Ballard, I know him, I've actually interviewed him, and I used to donate to that charity because I was so moved by my interview with him when I was working for Prager University. But moving on from that, Phil also disputes something that was quite strange, that Shana Broderick is his nephew.

2 (7m 8s):
I said, okay, wait a minute. Actually, Shana Broderick literally posted that on his Instagram. He said, my uncle Phil Lyman, but Phil seems like he's trying to distance himself for some reason from Shaner. He said, actually, maybe Shana's confused. We're just cousins. We're just, we're just cousins. Okay, well, Shaner must have been very confused because it was also posted on his LinkedIn as a connection that Phil Lyman was his uncle. It's probably part of the reason, politically speaking, that he was chosen for an internship with Senator Mike Lee of Utah. I, I feel like that was a little bit of political maneuvering, so I'm not clear why that he's suddenly saying that it's not his nephew.

2 (7m 51s):
Anyway, it's not up to me. I'm not here to get into the middle of a family feud. But something interesting happened since our EPIs episode, Shaner completely wiped his LinkedIn page, doesn't wanna know, doesn't wanna know who he's connected to. He's also completely wiped his Facebook page entirely. And regarding his Instagram, he's privatized it, but he privatized it and then removed all of the photos of his investigation into who Charlie Kirk's killer was. Now, that's not, that doesn't make any sense to me. I don't understand that. I can't make sense of why you would just move to delete everything when I've reached out to you as opposed to speaking to me about where you were, why you shot this video, and maybe sending me that video in general.

2 (8m 34s):
But again, that is now a dead end. Now, I asked Phil Lyman three times via text whether or not he could help us, more importantly, identify the two individuals that were in the photo with his nephew or cousin, if you will. And he was kind of pretending to be confused about what photo in particular I was referring to, despite the fact that I sent it multiple times in the text chain. And then finally he said that he had no idea who those two individuals were at all. I thought that's interesting, but this is allegedly your nephew, cousin, you guys are all chilling on this block around the same time he's with these two individuals. You've never heard of them, you've never seen them, nothing, because I gotta identify that guy in the blue hat.

2 (9m 19s):
Many of you figured out, by the way, and, and wrote to the tips box exactly what we were interested about in that person with the blue hat, you notice the same thing that we noticed. He kind of resembles, certainly more so than Tyler Robinson does, the blurred image of the individual that was coming up the stairs. I, I couldn't look away from that. I was going through the photos and I was going, Hmm, I would just like to quickly, quickly identify that individual and check him off and just know where he was because yeah, I, it looks to be about the same height. It's weird. Oddly, this is, when I say oddly, I mean this has never happened in the history of all of our investigations. No one emailed us to say that they knew either of those two individuals, neither the blonde that's with Shana, or the person that is wearing the blue hat that is with Shana.

2 (10m 10s):
I said, that's weird. Nobody in the whole wide Candace Owens universe of investigation, it was making me believe maybe those two individuals are like, I don't know, from overseas. Like maybe they're not even American. And it turns out, yeah, we were able to identify one of those individuals in the photo, and he is Austrian, so no wonder nobody recognized him. I mean, what Austrian, what's this Austrian guy doing? How did we get here? Anyways, his name is Gerne Omer, and we were able to find that his face matched with photos from a blog post that was written in German that was basically entitled Anniversary Hike, 10 Years On Foot to the Sea.

2 (10m 59s):
The blog is about a group of 30 year olds who are recreating a hike that they took together when they were 20. Now, I don't even know if I'm saying his name right, Gerne Gernot, I guess it's a, it is a, it is a common name in Austria, and there are a few photos of him that were available. We were able to find his face also matched up in a YouTube video for a company called Bearing Point, where he has seen with a group of people and is introduced as one of their software development teams, a member of one of their software development teams. So let's take a listen to that clip from YouTube.

3 (11m 38s):
This is the bearing point office in Grats. This is where bearing point's, key technology competencies are concentrated. This is one of our software development teams. Some people are managers and some are not. It doesn't matter. It's all one team.

2 (11m 55s):
Very recently, he moved to Utah according to his LinkedIn, which I hope doesn't get white. I'd love to get in touch with him. In May of 2024, he moved to Utah to become a software engineer for JP Morgan and Chase. And I guess the story goes that he became best friends with Shayna Broderick. I don't know. We'll find out. Now what about the other guy? Right? So yesterday we were kind of poking fun at the narrative that Phil Lyman seemed to be trying to spin, suggesting that quote unquote, gothic girls might have been suspicious that they maybe could have been responsible or aware at least that the shooting was going to occur.

2 (12m 40s):
That was a part of his story. He saw these gothic girls and they did, they seemed un unfazed in all of the chaos, you know, and I thought that was an interesting way to describe someone as gothic gratefully. Phil Lyman did send us footage of him after the shots ran out, and I am saying shots plural for a reason, because we will show you that video. But first I wanna recap what specifically Phil said publicly about where he was when the shots rang out, because I vaguely remembered him painting a picture that he was outside. That certainly seems to be what he told both Alex Jones and News Nation, that he was outside when the shot rang out.

2 (13m 21s):
Let's take a listen to what he said on Alex Jones.

4 (13m 24s):
Just yesterday, someone comes in and says, yeah, we, we've got video. He came off the roof, he walked up, he came up here to the parking lot, got in the car with, with an individual, and they, and they drove away. Well, that's not the story that came. So that he, that he escaped another route. And there, there's, there are people who are coordinating this thing. I, I do not believe that that 30 out six that they showed recovered in the bushes was ever on the roof. I think it was in the bushes to start with. And now I'm not saying that that Tyler Robinson wasn't on the roof. I'm not saying he didn't pull a trigger. I know I was, I was in very, very close proximity. So another interesting thing, like I said, I had, I had left the front of the stage. I wanted to meet some of my friends and bring him down front.

4 (14m 4s):
So I was clear at the east end, and I heard this loud boom, I heard this loud bang, and I turned around. I'm looking like, what was that? What was that? And, and pretty soon some people started, you know, running. Everyone was trying to process. And I thought, this is a gunshot and there's gonna be more of 'em. I thought it could turn into a mass shooting. So I go to the people closest to me, everyone's ducking down behind the, the concrete retaining walls. And some of 'em were still kind of oblivious, but there were two people that were standing there, two girls, very goth, very black, you know, and, and I just walked, I, and I stepped up to the side of 'em and I said, did that not happen right here? Did, did you hear that? Was that right here? And they said, yeah, it was just right over there. So they're confirming, yeah, the shooter or or wherever that sound came from is right here.

4 (14m 47s):
The thing that didn't really dawn on me is that they were not running, they were not frightened. In fact, as I stepped up, I heard one of the girls and they were talking to each other and they're looking at these kids, looking at the scene down below 'em of all these people fleeing for their lives. And she says, go f yourselves. And, and, and I, like I said, I was not processing that. I was trying to figure out what was going on. I thought this is a separate conversation. I don't know what it is. In hindsight, as I've watched that over and over, it's like these, these people were not afraid,

2 (15m 17s):
Okay? And on News Nation, I want you to listen carefully, because he at first says that he was about to walk into the building and the shot rang out, but then he says he ran out of the building after the shot rang out. So let's take a listen to that.

4 (15m 30s):
I walked up top, I had to go meet some people. So I said, So I was down there when he started, when we started talking, I thought, I'm gonna go up top and meet some of the people. So I got clear up on top and I was just coming around the corner walking into one of the buildings, and I heard a loud bang that I thought was right behind me. And I turned around, looked at the, the girl that was there, and she was kinda looking stunned at like, what was that? And I'm looking at her and then see a little bit of commotion. I realized right then it's a gunshot. So, So I ran out the people running in the building, I ran out to see who it was, you know, I'm thinking, this is, this is a lot of kids out here. And, and I, and then pretty, you know, a few minutes later, then the police were running saying, did anybody see? Did anybody see? I think it was on the roof above me.

4 (16m 10s):
I really is, is the only thing I, I could figure. 'cause it's like he has to, it, it had to have been very, very close to where I'm standing. And, and in hindsight, I, I think it was probably above me on the roof.

2 (16m 22s):
Okay? So a couple of those statements or what I would describe as little lies, well they're just not true because at 1223, according to his metadata, 'cause he sent it to me, bill Lyman was inside of the building, and he must have then immediately, according to our timeline, hit record. And he didn't run. He calmly walked out of Sorenson building, help him saying that that right, the Saron building. And he wasn't the only one that was walking calmly. And I'm not, by the way, none of these people are suspicious to me walking calmly because they're inside the building, not really sure what they heard perhaps. And they're all kind of walking calmly out. And I'm going to show you that footage. And to be clear, you're going to see two girls that are simply wearing black by no stretch of an imagination.

2 (17m 6s):
Would I refer to these girls as gothic? Actually, I think one of 'em is actually a guy, but they're wearing black, that dark makeup. There's just black. And he asks them, what I can hear audibly is he asks them, what was that? So I, I don't know how certain he was, it, it could have been a shooting, but we're, I'm gonna let you watch it first and then we're gonna try to clean up the audio. Now, if you're listening to this on a podcast and you're not be able to watch this, you might wanna turn this down because it is visual. Take a look so you can just sort of see everyone up top.

2 (17m 50s):
A couple of people were actually out there or ducking. He was on the inside, like I said, this was at 1223. So he was inside, walked out, and then he's gonna start a conversation with two people that are just wearing black. And

5 (18m 5s):
Yeah.

2 (18m 12s):
And then you see, he continues, if he took his on for like three minutes and he just, he just sort of walks down and he engages in a conversation with those two girls and they answer him doesn't, there's nothing here that seems to me to be controversial. When he hears them say something about f you, it's before he has a conversation with him. It does happen. Take a listen, trying to isolate this audio for you guys.

5 (18m 38s):
Those,

2 (18m 38s):
Those are the two girls talk talking about

5 (18m 51s):
You see where that came from? Its right here, wasn't it? It was like over here. Yeah.

2 (19m 0s):
So he says, did you see where that came from? It seems like a normal conversation. Kind of weird for me. And there's a reason why I'm saying that. To hone in on these two individuals and to say like gothic and to pretend that they were doing something that looked abnormal, given the fact that in the longer video everyone up top is quite calm. 'cause I don't think they're really entirely sure what is happening. And some of them are ducking 'cause maybe they saw it 'cause they were outside. So I wanted to get to the bottom, as I said earlier of who that second person was in the photo with his nephew, cousin, whatever you wanna call him. And we got just one hit. And it was, honestly, it was from Belfast, north Ireland, no less. Somebody sent us an email and he said, look, I conducted an interview an an internet wide search of the person's face.

2 (19m 47s):
And I only got one hit using technology. And the hit was in Provo, Utah. And he wrote to me that it was quite a coincidence because not only is the person in Provo for this one hit for this face, but also he's featured on a website pertaining to bees. And he's like, didn't you just do a thing saying that you had this weird thing about bees And you thought there, you know, there was something else going on. And my goodness, you guys, I almost jumped when I learned that that website, he was referring to buzzard and Bees is a gothic underground in Provo. Okay? So this is, this is the website. It's a gothic underground of all things in Provo, the website Buzzard and Bees.

2 (20m 29s):
And they're speaking about a gothic prom. That is where that person's face comes up, except he's wearing makeup to make 'em, well look a little, a little more gothic. Take a look at this. I'm gonna show you the side by side of this individual. And I am certain, can't say a hundred percent okay, because we need to find this person's name, but this is a match, okay? The ears, the chin, just everything about this individual is a match. But he's as of yet identified as a goth, unidentified pardon? As a gothic person. And he is also as of yet unidentified as the close friend of Shana Broderick who cannot be found anywhere else.

2 (21m 12s):
Or people are not familiar with this person. So I'm thinking maybe he also came from overseas. Now, quickly regarding our question pertaining to Mike Mitchell, right? I was saying that it was pretty odd and obvious that they were trying to protect this detective Mike Mitchell. We also learned that he's a Boy Scout leader in the LDS church. But usually if you have a long tenure as a police officer, you're just featured in a lot of articles. And then we received some leads that I think have helped to clarify exactly what sort of a detective he was and maybe why he was not featured in a lot of articles.

2 (21m 53s):
Because he was, as it appears to be a undercover detective by all accounts. He was an online detective, apparently. If this is the correct Mike Mitchell, and given the timeline of when he becomes an undercover detective, I have a strong hunch that it is the right, the right individual. Because he says, you know, he was on the force for 25 years. This individual began his career in 1999. His job, detective Mike Mitchell, was to create messages online to entrap pedophiles, okay? By pretending that he was underage. You guys know, you've heard about these sorts of stings. You pretend that you're underage as an officer and see people that try to hook up with you and then you make an arrest.

2 (22m 37s):
And so we can take a look at this article from November of 1999. It says, police surf internet to snag pedophiles. And it tells us Mike Mitchell sits at a desk tapping on a computer keyboard and becomes a boy. He's chatting with someone now his words are full of typos and misspellings and childlike phrases. Mike Mitchell is not a boy. He is a police detective, hunting for a pedophile. But the hunted doesn't know that Mitchell, a detective with the Salt Lake County Sheriff's Office, has been investigating child sex crimes on the internet for about a year. I don't think people realize how big it is. He, he tells them, okay, so that's interesting to me. Okay?

2 (23m 17s):
And we, we can't then go, okay, let's make a jump here. Just because he's creating messages online, First and foremost, doesn't necessarily mean that he's the person that authored the fake bed messages. And I, and I'm implying that, but I do actually thought it was quite interesting because when we covered George Zinn, who was the decoy boy that day, who then we find out is into pedophilia, right? And he gets arrested because he has children being sexually abused on his phone. Absolutely despicable person. It really made us wonder, again, I said this on a previous episode, whether or not he had been blackmailed in some capacity to play the decoy boy and to give the shooter time to get away, I just find that to be interesting.

2 (24m 3s):
A lot of stuff happening right now guys. And we are definitively getting closer to what took place on that day. And we have a lot of leads that are coming in. And I wanna say that I want to refocus your attention and now open this up internationally. 'cause I, I have a hunch on who that goth kid is. Okay? Somebody attended this goth prom in Provo, Utah. Somebody overseas perhaps recognizes that person. Like I said, I would, I would venture a guess that he is not from Utah because I've never seen no hits come in. Somebody saying I went to high school with him. And yeah, that's what I want you to focus your attention on tips at Candace Owens dot com. Again, reminding you guys, please do not send us because there's, we're such a small team, please do not send us TikTok videos and saying you should watch this or, you know, look at this theory.

2 (24m 52s):
Reserve that to simply tagging our accounts when you are on those specific apps. And we will pick up from there. We gotta get into the Charlie Kirk legacy. I am pretty fired up about that and I'm pretty disgusted at a lot of stuff that I'm learning.

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2 (27m 58s):
Okay guys, so let's get into this. I mean the attacks have not stopped. The attacks that are coming at me are good though because I am just feeling more and more energized by them. I understand exactly what is going on. The people fighting for Charlie Kirk's legacy. I gotta say this, you know what I'm starting to think and let me know if you think This is crazy, but I'm starting to think that the assassination of Charlie Kirk was something akin to a reed, right? The assassination of a king to install a new ruler who the king would have never approved of, right? Maybe people around him counseling the king people who perhaps betrayed him because there are just too many things that I am finding out that are not adding up to me, okay?

2 (28m 47s):
There are also, I do wanna say this, too many first times leading up to this event, okay? One person who emailed me said, Hey, I've been supplying bulletproof vests to Charlie or all of these campus tours and suddenly last semester, last spring, the last campus tour, they canceled, they canceled my contract with them. They did not wanna renew. When I asked them why, they told me that Charlie wanted to go a different direction by getting an army vest instead like a metal army vest, I believe is what he says. And he said this made no sense. He made it understand it. Okay, so Charlie decided that they decided to use a new company even though I don't think he was actually wearing a bullet vest on that day.

2 (29m 32s):
So what happened there? I am not sure. Something else that is really bothering me just because I have done these campus tours is the question of why Charlie was set to do two events in Utah, a mere 20 days apart, okay? He was supposed to do UVU and then today was scheduled to do just 20 days later USU. Now those two campuses are just under two hours apart. If you're driving, why on earth would he schedule these events apart? It's not how turning point USA normally decides on their events. If you're gonna do two stops in one state, they make it happen back to back because it doesn't make sense from a fuel perspective, from a traveling perspective for you to go in and out of one state.

2 (30m 20s):
Plus they only have a limited number of events, right? So they wanna make sure they can go all over the United States and see as many students as possible during every tour. This is how it works. I know how it works 'cause I came from Turning Point USA. Okay. I have toured with them every year with the exception of this year since I started working for Charlie. So that just struck me as very odd. Okay. We've also received, or maybe I should say maybe not odd, just something new maybe we've also received a lot of tips that the hospital that Charlie was taken to is not the closest hospital and it also would not have been the number one choice hospital for someone that was suffering from that sort of a wound.

2 (31m 3s):
Like it was a trauma three center. He was taken to a smaller regional hospital that was a little farther away and was further away and was also less equipped for the trauma that he suffered that he was taken to Timpanogos Regional Hospital. And also something new is that that hospital had just announced that they had a, a brand new CEO and head surgeon named Andrew Zenger. A lot of new stuff happening. And to be clear, typically the states dictate the protocol and you're required to, after you have a certain number of attendees at an event, you are required to have an ambulance on standby.

2 (31m 43s):
And I don't know Utah State law, but I also found that that weird that there wouldn't have been an ambulance on standby. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but seemed atypical to me. Now in terms of other things that were new, they announced on that same day that Andrew Zenger was announced as a new CEO, that was also the day that they announced Charlie's tour. They announced five dates in, two of them were in Utah, dispersed throughout the month. And it is also interesting to know that the Utah FBI also got a brand, a new set of employees, the state FBI department Cash Patel went ahead and fired not only the chief of the Utah borough but also some other people.

2 (32m 28s):
You can see this in the Daily Mail article. They recount this after Charlie's death. Cash Patel questions grow as it's revealed. He gutted the Utah FBI leadership before Charlie Crow's assassination. That is true. He fired the chief among other people and replaced her with Robert Bowles in in August. I think Robert Bowles actually it was his first week when Charlie got shot and he's somebody who has been in DC for decades. So seems to me to be an unusual placement to then wanna re-up your entire life, assuming you have a wife and kids and move to Utah. But whatever, again, everything just feels a little too brand new to me. Then I speak to the individual who I told you guys that I recognized that I've taken down the cameras minute, what was it, minute four after Charlie was shot the back camera of all the ones when you take the front camera.

2 (33m 17s):
I don't know, again, I'm not here to read into how people might act in an emergency event, but I thought it was weird that he was there in general actually, that he was behind Charlie the entire time. I've never seen that. He's never been behind me at an event, he's never been lingering around me at an event. And I asked about that. I asked about just his presence behind Charlie and plus the mysterious phone call that he was seen making in like a minute three after Charlie was assassinated and he, he told me explicitly that they were trying something new that day. Like it was something new. Charlie's super ambitious and on the AV thing they were trying something new and they wanted to be able to feed it back instantly to Arizona.

2 (34m 1s):
None of it makes sense to me because these events are typically live streamed, but again, something new. Okay, so let's stick with that theme. Do you wanna know something else that was brand new leading up to this event? Charlie's perspective on Israel? Okay, so let me say this so you can hear it. Charlie Kirk's perspective on Israel was not starting to shift. It had shifted entirely. Okay? There are no ifs and there are no ands and there are no buts about it there. Israel knew that turning Point USA knew that because Charlie was explicit. So my question is why isn't turning point USA making any statements and shutting down this repeat attempt by Israel to lie and to pretend that towards the end Charlie was just authoring love letters to Israel, giving them a a perspective of here's how we can win the proper, here's what you guys need to do.

2 (34m 56s):
You need to work with this Hillel, whatever it is, you have the same people that are calling the antisemitic, you need to work with those people harder. And he was just putting it on paper. Was it an email? What was that that they were sharing on it? The New York Post, the Israeli Post, right? What were they sharing there? He wrote of his deep love for Israel, he had nothing else to do in May. Wrote of his deep love for Israel to letter to Netanyahu. Netanyahu said they were close, but in the letter Charlie puts his number, which apparently Netanyahu didn't have his number and we're supposed to believe, send that as an email. By the way, could somebody clarify, was that an email they were sharing or did he send it in the mail to him? Could somebody share that please? I'm assuming it was an email.

2 (35m 39s):
Can someone share the timestamp on that? Just kind of like authenticate that email because I'm very aware of what's going on. Okay. And I don't know how the executives over at Turning Point USA sleep at night. Okay? I don't know how you can present yourselves as a Christian organization and not be dedicating yourself to the truth. No matter what the cost is. You tell the truth. That's it. Okay? You don't hide, hide it. You don't try to obfuscate it. You don't try to say, well wait until wait until the, the memorial event before we start looking into who murdered him. You tell the truth and you tell it immediately. And I don't think they're capable of doing that. And I have an idea as to why that is.

2 (36m 19s):
I think the same people that were pressuring Charlie are pressuring them. In fact, I know that for a fact. So they might need my help. Okay, I'm gonna state this and I'm gonna challenge turning Point USA executives to issue a very clean statement saying that I'm lying if this is not true. About 48 hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause outright. Okay? Charlie was done. He said it explicitly that he refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors. Did. Can you guys answer? Did he express that? Did he also express that he wanted to bring me Candace Owens back because he was standing up for himself and then did he just 48 hours later conveniently catch a bullet to the throat before our onstage reunion could happen?

2 (37m 14s):
It's a yes or a no. Okay, let's stop this ditching, let's stop the dodging. Let's like explicitly, I wanna hear from Turning Point USA that I'm lying about that I want you to say No, no, it was just, you know, he was feeling a little bit of pressure. No, I want you to literally answer what I have just said. It either happened or it didn't. I'm either making it all up or it happened exactly as I'm saying. And while we're at it, may I ask, what is the name of the Jewish donor who sponsored the Hamptons weekend? Okay. And to Pastor Rob McCoy, were there any LLCs that you or your son were being paid through that sat outside of Turning Points?

2 (37m 58s):
I'm asking that question genuinely. Yeah, I'm putting the fire here right at the feet of Turning Point because I am disgusted. I am genuinely disgusted. I am looking around and wondering whether Charlie's entire life was the Truman Show. None of you guys are behaving in the way that you should be behaving, okay? There is no way you are letting these lies fly. Unless as I'm hearing, unless it is true that there was a big, big, big payday that was on the line. And if Charlie radically stated that he was done with Israel, if, if Charlie said he had no choice but to abandon the pro-Israel cause because of, and I quote Jewish donors the behavior of Jewish donors, if he said that, yes or no, well then, I don't know, maybe, maybe some people didn't wanna take that risk that he was gonna, what become Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson at Turning Point USA with all of those presences, so much presence across college campuses.

2 (39m 3s):
Maybe they didn't wanna take a chance. You see, I'm just one person so it's easy to just try to cancel my life and lie on me every second of every day. But turning point USAI think got a little bit bigger than Charlie and I'm no longer gonna allow this lie in this narrative. So answer the questions, yes or no and I'm going to again challenge you to lie. And if you do lie, I'm gonna expose the lies and I'm gonna start dropping videos actually. So that's where I'm at. Enough of the gains enough with trying to allow Israel to wrangle a narrative that you know is not true. Charlie did not die pro-Israel. He did not die for Israel. He did not martyr himself as a friend of Israel. In fact, the friends of Israel were pressuring him really badly and he was done and he finally stopped for himself.

2 (39m 46s):
And I'm proud of that. And I will say this, you know what? Somewhere Charlie is watching, okay? And I hope he knows that we are reunited, okay? We're on stage right now and the Jewish donors are very angry about it, extremely angry about it. But it feels good to know that in the end, truth is going to win. So accept my challenge or don't.

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2 (42m 37s):
Alright, you guys, hope I've made myself clear. I'm done dancing, I am done dancing with all of these frauds. It's just unbelievable. It really is unbelievable. Do me a favor, don't ever let anybody try to speak out who just tortured me my whole life and then pretend to say something nice. Please don't do that. Just call them out on being hideous individuals. You know, when you end up in a world where like a couple of days before Charlie Kirk dies, someone like Laura Loomer is calling him anti-Semite and she's funded by the one of Charlie's donors, Bob Schulman, who then does a 180 and is now pretending that she is morally fighting me to stop researching into Charlie's murder.

2 (43m 18s):
You know exactly what kind of world you live in. Politics sickens me. It really does. Everybody who has a little a wish out there, oh Candace, like jump into politics. I hate these people. I hate everybody involved in politics. It is all about money, okay? They all sell their souls for money and there are no real relationships. And I hope that you are learning that if you're, you're getting a lesson about that right now and it's not left or right, right? I think which is something that I learned. It is not left or right, it is just individuals selling their souls comment from Rose, rose rights. No matter what videos I've seen from people on the left or right calling you crazy. I call it fak and gay. You have my full support. Truth is all that matters in Christ is king. Yeah, here is the thing.

2 (43m 58s):
People know truth when they hear it. Okay? You know truth, you know truth, when you see it, you know when people are lying and you can see the campaign. Now it's obvious, right? It's all the same people making videos at the same time, posting at the same time. People that are accepting money through an agent of Israel somehow. I've also got contracts, got contracts as well. How these people are getting paid, quote unquote 5 0 1 c threes, dedicating themselves to the fellowship of Christians. And I mean, it is a really disturbing market. But you would think that following an assassination, that people would tether themselves to reality. That they would say, I want to fight evil, and they would therefore commit themselves to truth.

2 (44m 42s):
What I'm seeing right now is just stunning. It really is. I mean, I think his name online is anomaly AJ tweeted, is this what happened after the JFK assassination? Did all of his friends race to say, don't investigate, don't investigate. Accept the narrative as it is. Maybe we weren't alive. Maybe AJ Murphy writes, I'm a progressive who disagrees with you on a lot, but as a fellow Catholic, I see the Holy Spirit working through you to find truth. We are fighting a spiritual war against evil, but left in the right must come together to fight authoritarianism. How to do that, by the way, I wanna save these people at home. Take your children out of these schools, all of them. Okay? I cannot stress this enough. Homeschool your children. Make it work no matter what.

2 (45m 22s):
Stop sending them to the universities. Okay? There is a real underground, it is a communist underground. It's real. It's 100% real. It's not imagined and what they want, the one resource that these people want are your children. Simple thing that you can do. Okay? I know it takes a lot of adjustment. I'm waking up and I am homeschooling my kids. And, but by the way, it's the most rewarding thing in the world Also, we just started this week, so it's only been for two days, but it's incredible how happy it makes me knowing that I am, I am doing something to buck the trend as we are slipping further into authoritarian rule. Ashlyn Bigelow writes, advocating for a weekly Candace crash out, followed by, I'd like to apologize for my tone 10 seconds ago.

2 (46m 5s):
Yeah, I'm, I'm kind of, yeah, that's, I should do that. You're right. And I do, I should apologize for my tone maybe like five minutes ago. I'm trying to be more conscious, but I am, oh man, I'm working on this anger. I'm working on just really appreciating how fak and gay it all is. Like I'm just seeing these people just say, move on, move on from Charlie. It's good. We're gonna accept the narrative. We're just gonna let the FBI do what the FBI does and we're just gonna pretend these glaring obvious lies and holes mean nothing. And also work behind the scenes to the very people that we're torturing. Charlie. That is just not allowed. It's not allowed. Natalie writes, Candace, I am giddy af watching you today. You are on fire to your audience. Let's keep up the prayers. Y'all, Christ is king.

2 (46m 45s):
Thank you so much, Natalie. I really appreciate that and I appreciate all of your support, Marsy, thank you for your support. Marsy writes, Hey Candace, in my super chat yesterday, I got key holding and internal bullet bouncing confused. Oh, okay. I remember that you commented about that. Key holding is if the bullet is too slow and tumbles and has external impact. The other is pinball bullets where they bounce internally causing internal damage to the target. So pinball bullets are the ones that cause internal damage. Very interesting. George writes, we love you K and I pray the truth gets out soon. Keep up the great work the truth, George, it's inevitable. It is. It's not fun to be a liar 'cause you got a squirm and I, I appreciate the hand that they played here.

2 (47m 29s):
I I totally get the hand that they played here. They're lying. There have been a lot of lies that have been told from the very beginning. And the idea that Charlie was pro Israel when he died ends today. That just ends today. HMMM writes, please stay safe if I buy a shirt. Please don't do a Cardi B and call me out for my triple X sizes. By the way, we do have some new Merch. You guys demanded this. We're also gonna make sure that you have the most appropriate kit on you. We don't know. No, but we know is the new Stanis cup that just dropped is pretty good. We don't know. No, but we know and we're about to No, no.

2 (48m 13s):
If you know what I mean. Okay, so you can get your sandis cup available on the Candace Owens dot com website. There's also t-shirts that are available for you. Somebody put a request for a tank top so we have that finally getting you some kit. We'll drop more in the future too. Yeah, because that's the vibe. That is the vibe. Go with your gut on things. And I loved that yesterday's episode. The number one comment was that Charlie used to say that like, go with your gut. There's, there's something there. And I'm realizing more and more guys like we, we have a God intuition. That is our gut. Your gut instinct is your God instinct. And we all know something's not right here. And the media has never worked harder to try to tell us, no, no, no, no. Just move along and yeah, I proclaim ide.

2 (48m 53s):
Okay. I don't like it. And we are getting closer. So again, be very, I guess careful or, or mindful rather is a better word there. Be very mindful if you are sending us an email to tips at Candace Owens dot com. We are still working to identify our goth suspect who's not the girl who was wearing black, but rather the person that was in the photos with nephew cousin Broderick. And we, if you know something, please send us tips at Candace Owens dot com. We will have more for you tomorrow. Some other stuff that I've been holding close to my chest about where we are hearing Charlie's wounds were So, I hate to leave you on a cliffhanger.

2 (49m 38s):
I don't actually hate to leave it a cliffhanger. It brings you back. And I love you guys. You guys keep us fighting. We'll see you tomorrow.

9/29/25
They Are Lying About Tyler Robinson. | Candace Ep 244

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5 (30s):
All right, you guys, happy Monday and get ready 'cause we are going on a journey. I left you guys on the ultimate cliffhanger last week. I did not intend to, by the way. I genuinely wanted to get the information out as soon as possible that Tyler Robinson is not suicidal. And I'm going to tell you how I know that also, while investigating this assassination, there is a politician's name that keeps coming up and now he's apparently mad that we keep asking questions. I'm beginning to think that he might know something that he hasn't yet shared. So I wanted to kind of loop you guys into this and see what you think. Welcome back to Candace.

5 (1m 25s):
Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. Tyler Robinson didn't kill himself. I mean, these are the phrases that we now use and that we say when we expect that the federal government is telling us a lie. Last week, I have to tell you, I was contacted by a source who I vetted with information that answered a lot of the lingering questions that we've had about the investigation. Not all of them, but some of them, some of the big ones. First and foremost, we were like, how exactly did it work? How did Tyler Robinson turn himself in as we were told, but also never confessed? And did he actually author those absurd fed messages?

5 (2m 6s):
'cause I'm thinking, no. Lastly, what was he doing at Dairy Queen? Doesn't really quite fit into our timeline. Also, don't expect this kid who just tried out being a stone cold killer to really have an appetite. And why exactly did the feds withhold that information at Dairy Queen? And why are they allegedly stalking the Dairy Queen to see who comes in and outs? Well, we, we have the story that could possibly, potentially answer all those questions and it certainly makes a lot more sense than the slop that the government is currently trying to feed us. First and foremost, Tyler Robinson has never confessed. They acknowledged that he has never confessed to this crime and he still is pleading innocence on the shooting.

5 (2m 53s):
In fact, I was told that he was quote unquote bewildered by the idea that he carved casings. I should be clear, he does not dispute the fact that it is his gun at all. It is his gun. But Tyler is not exactly a gun enthusiast. He doesn't hunt like his other brothers do. In fact, he's apparently a fisherman. The reason that he has that gun in the first place is because it is in fact a custom made family heirloom. Tyler is the firstborn son. So he inherited, that's what firstborns do. They get the family heirloom. That is why he has the gun. As many of you guys have noted, the Robinson family appear to be conservative, hence the hunting and the fishing as the, the sports of their choosing.

5 (3m 43s):
I am told that they are fans of Charlie Kirk and they are fans of Donald Trump. Although this source noted that Tyler, like many other conservatives have expressed wish that Trump would sometimes tone down his speech and his rhetoric. Now on the topic of rhetoric, I am told that Tyler absolutely did not author those text messages. What text messages? He has no idea where these messages came from, believes that they are therefore entirely fictionalized. It turns out you're gonna be shocked that he doesn't actually use words like vehicle, which should come as no surprise to anyone that has a brain.

5 (4m 26s):
By the way, I'm sure you caught this, but there's old footage of Tyler Robinson that is now circulating from a car accident that he had. And during the discussion with the officer that showed up, Tyler certainly refers to it as his car, not his vehicle, because that's how most Americans, how most English speakers refer to a car unless they're in the military or on the police force. So here is 2022 police body cam footage in case you miss that of Tyler making a crash report. Take a listen,

6 (5m 6s):
Your mom's on her way. Yeah, she's gonna be a minute. She's gotta shuttle over from where she's at to her car and then drive over. Gotcha.

5 (5m 14s):
His mother was gonna shuttle over from her car. Hmm. Interesting. There's more, of course of most interest to me. What I've learned is that his father does not believe his parents don't believe that their son committed this crime. I was like, huh, excuse me. That's a, that's a far cry from what the media's been telling us. Remember the media presented this amazing story. The father realized his son was guilty, so it goes right. And then he phoned over a friend to help him convince his son to turn himself in because this guy, you know, this, this mysterious guy was a friend and, and just had a connection with Tyler.

5 (5m 59s):
And eventually they said, you've gotta do the right thing here. We know this is you. That was the vibe, certainly that's what the media was putting down for us to pick up. Well, I was told actually that it was kind of the opposite. That quote unquote family friend who we learned was a former detective with the police force, Elise. And so therefore has strong ties with the police station, informed the family. It was that in between person that informed the family that Tyler had been identified as the shooter. He recognized him, he knows Tyler, he gives them the heads up.

5 (6m 40s):
And then I'm told, and I believe this, that the way in which he got arrested or rather turned himself in was because that family friend slash neighbor slash former detective told him, Hey, it's best for you to turn yourself in because there's only one of two options here. Either you turn yourself in and everything is peaceable, or you know, the SWAT team could come in here and arrest you and things would get crazy. So that's what happened. He went over to their house. Tyler was called over. Tyler was bewildered. He disputed the idea that he had murdered Charlie Kirk. In fact, according to my source, Tyler has never even stepped foot on UVU campus.

5 (7m 25s):
Tyler, it turns out, has, which has already been revealed, was accepted into Utah State University, not Utah Valley. And that's actually interesting if you pause and reflect on that because we didn't really consider how on earth Tyler became, not just familiar with the layout of the campus, but familiar with the rooftop layout of UVU campus. So familiar that he knew exactly how to scale across the rooftops to duck down in order to take an almost impossible shot at a Charlie Kirk who was sitting beneath a a tent. How did he know how to do all of that? Had he been there before that he, he knew where Charlie was gonna be sitting in it, that he would have that shot from on top of the Lowy Center.

5 (8m 7s):
What? Right. I would actually, and I, I don't know, but I would imagine that even actual current UVU students don't know that possibility. Like they're not even that familiar with how to scale the rooftops and what shots they can take from it. We'll see, curiously, however, my source says that Tyler Robinson was nearby the campus on that day. I'm wondering if that fact, which I'm trying to learn more information regarding explains the Dairy Queen photo because what was he doing around the campus on that day?

5 (8m 47s):
Where exactly was he around the campus on that day? This photo never made any sense. When I plugged into my timeline, it wasn't fitting in. So if you're wondering why exactly Tyler would agree to go to the police station if he's not guilty, ironically, the police were honest that day on one of the points. Well, First and foremost that point is Tyler is not suicidal. He wanted to go to the police station so that he didn't risk accidentally getting shot by the police, swarming his home, as I said earlier, in a theatrical arrest setting.

5 (9m 27s):
But rather confusingly brooksby. Nate Brooksby tells us that Tyler is suicidal, whatever. Let, let's just take a listen to, to what Nate Brooksby said after he had been apprehended. Take a listen.

7 (9m 42s):
So, So I get a call from my friend and his, his, he said, Hey, how you doing? Good. And it's not, you know, he's been retired a few years. He, he'll we'll call each other. It's not, it's not unusual for me to get a call from him or vice versa. And at 8:02 PM he calls me, Hey, I can tell his voice is kind of shaky. So my first thought is, who, who died? Like who, who's, who's he gonna tell me that died? And then, and then I can't, I couldn't fathom what actually came out of his mouth. So he said, Hey, I know who, I know who Charlie Kirk shooter is. I I know the family through religious association and he's in, he's in Washington County now and we're working on trying to get him to come in voluntarily during that phone call, some information was provided about Tyler potentially having some suicidal ideations was en route to remote area Washington County.

7 (10m 39s):
The parents convinced him not to do that. And you know, conveyed that they would, you know, stand by him and help him, help him, 'em surrender peacefully.

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5 (11m 22s):
I'm told that's, that's not true at Tyler was not suicidal at all. He was just confused and didn't wanna get shot. And then he gets to that part, right? He then tells us, brooksby that he came in willingly because he didn't wanna die. Let's take a listen to that portion.

7 (11m 41s):
Within the hour my friend drove Tyler and his parents to my office where he was greeted by plainclothes detectives. So that was part of the, part of the deal deal is Tyler knew it was just inevitable with all the law enforcement pressure that he, you know, his picture in the news, the gun on the gun, on the news, he knew it was inevitable that he would be caught. He was fearful of a SWAT team hit on his house or he was fearful of being shot by law enforcement. So part of the negotiation and getting him to bring himself in was that, that we would, we would treat it as delicate and as soft as possible to make him feel comfortable to where he would, he would show up at my office.

7 (12m 24s):
And that's exactly what happened.

5 (12m 27s):
It can't be both. It can't be both. Was he suicidal and wanting to die or was he worried about dying? It can't be both. And I didn't catch onto that early on it. It's, the answer was he came in because he is not suicidal and did not want to get shot and was confused as I'm told. Now you're probably wondering why the father and the mother didn't speak out to assert his innocence. That would make sense, right? Why don't you come right out and dispute everything immediately? Well, in, interestingly enough, I'm told that it's because the feds told them that if they spoke out, their lives could be at risk. Like they, they needed to keep things private and they convinced the family to go into witness protection. Like your lives are in danger.

5 (13m 7s):
You shouldn't say anything. Somebody could like, you know, just come back and, and try to harm you guys because of what your son did. You should go into witness protection and don't speak to anybody. Trust us, we're the feds bro. And they agreed, of course in the fog of it all, why wouldn't you agree? But then like any good, maybe conservative family, you start going, I don't really trust these feds. Like I'm a little suspicious about the feds. Here's another point of interest, okay? His father had no idea that Tyler was gay. That's what I'm told. They are learning this in and through the media. They thought that Lance was just his roommates and they were especially shocked because apparently Tyler kept mentioning to them that he wanted them to meet some girl that he was seeing.

5 (13m 54s):
Now I would like to interject my own voice here and say that I think this girl was likely Lance and Tyler was working up the courage to tell his family that he was gay. That is what is most likely in my opinion, because we know for a fact that Tyler was in fact in a relationship with Lance because we have exclusive photos. By the way, they're about to show you that the two of them posted to their Instagrams. This is Lance posting Halloween era photos. I forgot to post My boyfriend is the best love you. Don't worry. That handle has since been taken down of what Tyler's handle was. But he's got a handle that doesn't have his name in it. So he is maybe trying to hide this stuff. And then there's another photo of them. And this one's posted by Lance again, picks from when Tyler had a mustache.

5 (14m 36s):
You can see that they were in a relationship just to make sense that he was working up the courage to maybe tell his family about that. Now, I was told also that Tyler is off the charts intelligence and always has been. We know this, he had a perfect GPA in high school. Now that is precisely what made the idea of him being so stupid as to author a full confessional via text messages pointedly absurd. Like any person with a modicum of intelligence is gonna go, I'm not gonna put this down in writing with every detail. And apparently whoever offered those messages, likely feds didn't have a modicum of intelligence or they would've maybe not included every single detail there.

5 (15m 18s):
The family says that the photo of the young man that is coming up the stairs, which was shared, that blurry image is definitively not Tyler Robinson. And let me just say, I never thought it looked like him. Neither did you. Okay, face looks different. Face looks more narrow. Also, that person looks taller. Every time I say I'm like, this person is taller than Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson also appears to have full lips. Even though this image is blurry, we're not looking for someone that's got a, that got fuller lips and Tyler Robinson looks broader than that individual walking, right? So I I, I am on board with that person walking up the stairs.

5 (15m 58s):
It's not Tyler Robinson because I feel like it was intentionally blurred. They also never gave us the footage at all because in order to blow right, they probably needed a static image. Also, the family believes that, and this is really interesting, Tyler Robinson's apartment was staged after his arrest. Now you'll recall that I spoke to Lance's family and one of the things that Lance's family said was, it was, Hey, we own that apartment. They pay rent to us. I've ne we've never met Tyler Robinson. But I can tell you that it seems like they were trying to hide the fact that this, you know, that this apartment got raided. And it's very strange that they immediately cleared Lance as a suspect.

5 (16m 38s):
And I was told by other people in the department that they wanted to keep that raid. Very hush hush, didn't want anybody to know about the raid. There was no mention of this raid. And Lance immediately gets cleared as a suspect. Why? Well, according to Tyler's family, they went to that apartment after his arrest and they felt the apartment was staged and that intentionally and Tyler's room, a furry bed was placed almost sort of implying that they're trying to transfer the attributes of Lance onto Tyler. And that's shady. But again, when I put together what I'm being told by Lance's family and what I'm hearing from the Robinson family through a third party, I will say that it matches, it kind of seems like they're agreeing.

5 (17m 25s):
One family's going, Hey, Lance is kind of evil. Why is he getting, why is he getting cleared? And the other one's going, Tyler's not this guy. Tyler is not this guy. So what the hell is going on guys? What is actually going on right now? There's also something else that's weird that I want to mention here. And that is the unusual lengths in which the media and the sheriff's department, they've gone through all of these lengths, I would say, to protect the identity of that former sheriff friend who was the one who convinced Tyler to turn himself in even in that press conference. By the way, Brooksby, I don't like the way he's moving.

5 (18m 6s):
I don't like the way Nate Brooksby is breathing. I gotta be honest with you. It's a vibe for no reason at all. He feels like he has to explain how he got on the phone with this sheriff friend of his, like nobody asked you whether or not it was usual for him to call you. He's kind of over explaining here, in my opinion, take a listen.

7 (18m 28s):
Well, at exactly 8 0 2 on the 11th, I received a call from a friend of mine who happens to be a retired detective that worked for me for many years. I didn't put that out there initially. I wanted to protect that individual as much as possible. Why? Unfortunately in the court documents, which is standard, he was referenced as a retired Washington County deputy. So I didn't put that out there. It was in the court docs. I was trying to protect even that information and just saying retired law enforcement in general,

5 (19m 0s):
Why are you, why are you trying to protect him? Why did you feel the need to explain to us earlier? It was, it's not unusual for him to call me this guy, but I I'm fortunate that information is in documents that he was, you know, formally working for me and working with me. What do you mean? If he was formally working for you, that would mean he was a public figure. And this should be usual public figures. People that works for the police departments are always public and their informations are something their, their name is someone we could easily research. It's nonsense. He's weird about this. He says that he retired. I think a, a journalist asks in the audience, like, you know that former friend detective, how long has he been off the force?

5 (19m 41s):
And he says, I know If we had that clip or maybe we didn't cut that Skylar, but he's like, mm, three years. But actually we were able to figure out who that individual was and it's, I feel someone that we need to get in touch with. We've tried to get in touch with him. The name of that individual is, is former Deputy Mike Mitchell. Okay. Deputy Mike Mitchell. Now oddly, despite a career of 25 years in the police force, I can't find a single trace of him in old newspapers. So I'm looking for more information on this guy. I understand that he knows Tyler through the Boy Scouts, he's involved in the LDS church and I think Tyler was, he was, he was the Boy Scout leader.

5 (20m 26s):
That's the connection there. We were able to confirm that this Mike Mitchell lives on the block lives nearby as was told, via, via other sources. And thus far we have only been able to even see a picture of him, which is one picture or a set of pictures that we were able to find. And that again, which would mean brooksby lied a little bit. I don't like a little bit of lies because you usually have to lie a little bit when there's something bigger that you're afraid of it. According to this post, he retired last January. Here it is on the left, you have Brooksby. I don't trust that guy. Just don't trust him. And on the right hand side you have today, we celebrated the career of Detective Mike Mitchell.

5 (21m 10s):
After over 24 years of serving, 24 years Washington County, he is retiring, starting in the jail back in 1999. Sheriff Brooksby and Detective Mitchell both had some wonderful stories to share. We would like to give our heart felt thanks to Detective Mitchell and all who came out to give him a warm sendoff. Congratulations Detective Mitchell. This is the only trace of this guy I could find. That's weird. I don't, that is very odd. That is unusual. That is an anomaly. When you serve that long in the police force, you inevitably make it into the news. So I am asking, and we try to reach out to this individual, we have had no luck. If you have any more information about this individual, if he is your Boy Scout leader or he works for your church, please send us tips@canowens.com.

5 (21m 54s):
Guys, I'm going to again say here, we appreciate all of the tips, but please don't send us links to like, you know, somebody else's video and their theories because we are, it's, we're a very small team. There's literally four of us. And we want to get to actual tips pertaining to the questions that we're asking and that we're looking for about the individuals that we're mentioning, not other people's theories. If they have like a theory about what direction the bullet might have traveled, please reserve that to our social media handles. Tag us on Facebook, tag us on Instagram and we'll take, get a look at those videos. But we really wanna keep the tips lined for answers to the questions that we're coming across. And again, we appreciate you guys so much because we wouldn't have gotten as far as we have if it wasn't for that tips box.

5 (22m 39s):
I, I do also wanna say before we get into reading and telling you something even crazier that happened, I'm talking crazy, crazy. I do wanna assert here that I'm uncomfortable with the fact that despite all of the friends that Charlie Kirk made, all the schmoozing that he did, presidents rights department heads, I am the only person that is publicly demanding further investigation into his assassination. Why? So it's totally rubbing me the wrong way. Something's not right here. Even even Turning Point USA, they're just like we've accepted, like obviously there are holes in this narrative and they're just like, we're gonna just keep up his show.

5 (23m 21s):
What is going on? Actually I just wanna say that and get that off of my chest. I don't like it. It's rubbing me the wrong way.

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5 (25m 48s):
Okay, so something very strange happened this weekend and I need to tell you, I need to tell you guys about it. I need to offload this and get your opinion. Now, First and foremost, I have to tell you about this student who I'm going to refer to as Nick. Nick is not his real name. I'm going to refer him as Nick to protect his identity. Obviously I came across Nick very early on in this investigation. In fact, you might recall when I shared a photo online of a person that looked suspicious, he was wearing like a black suit and black glasses and he seemed to have a strap hanging out of his bag. Here he is right here. And he was in the food court. I shared that photo because Nick had sent it to me into our tips box and said, this person looks rather mysterious.

5 (26m 33s):
He's running through the food court. And from from there we kind of, he kind of became my boots on the ground. He was like, Hey, I go to UVU, I'm a major Candace Owens fan, I wanna help in any way that I can. Okay? So that's how that happened. That was really, and right away he told me on like day two of the investigation that he worked on Phil Lyman's gubernatorial campaign, Phil Lyman ran against governor, the current Governor Cox and he lost. And one day, very early on, it was supposed have been like day three, Nick Cold calls me and Phil Lyman's on the phone. Okay. Like I said, he ran for governor and I was prepping for the show and things were early on and I was still in a very aggrieved phase and I didn't really know I was on the phone with this guy Phil Lyman.

5 (27m 15s):
And I was like, okay, thank you so much. I appreciate that you're offering help. And Nick's insisted to me, he's a fantastic person. He has tons of resources, he knows the area. If you need any help, he can help you. Okay, great. Fast forward to me looking into the witness list. And obviously we spoke about this Tiffany Peterson Barker, that very weird clip of her with her nieces at like 4:00 AM in the morning just speaking on Good Morning America. And her energy was just weird to me. I thought her being there was weird. Obviously this is my podcast, I can say whatever I want. We reached out to her and then she gave us, you know, a ton of information and but never actually presented to us.

5 (27m 57s):
She never sent me directly any footage that could verify that she was there when Charlie Kirk got shot. Okay. And she was a bit upset that I didn't clarify that. I thought it was weird that she wouldn't just text me the footage because it didn't allow me to confirm that she was where she said she was. That's what metadata is for. Metadata instantly will say, here's where you were at what time? And this is this person's iPhone. So I wasn't gonna lie to my audience, I just told you guys, Hey, you can check her out on her Instagram. Here's her excuse. She says that this is why her nieces said that. And we sort of moved on, right? But then I then I learned from Nick that the photo of the person who was wearing that black suit in dark sunglasses had come from Tiffany Barker's mother.

5 (28m 42s):
I was like, well that's weird, whatever. And then you'll recall, we learned from Tiffany and I was trying to figure out how did you get this hit on Good Morning America? Like did you share something that would've had them reach out? Well then I told you, she told us, actually Phil Lyman is the person that put me on Good Morning America. My sister ran with him as Lieutenant governor. And I was like, oh, okay, so Phil Lyman got you that, that position on Good Morning America. You had a essentially a connection there that made that happen. Don't know how I missed this, but then I learned that Phil Lyman himself was very involved in all of the communications that immediately went out about the shooting and that his car was in the driveway of the now infamous TMZ footage, which showed the shooter walking twice that day by this house.

5 (29m 37s):
In fact, Phil Lyman says that he had just pulled into that driveway minutes earlier and had just missed the shooter. Here he is in his own words, speaking to Kaylee McEnany, take a listen.

9 (29m 50s):
I do wanna linger on a moment for what you just told us, and I'm gonna ask the team to pull back up that surveillance footage that we've gotten from TMZ from those neighborhood cameras. You said that in that footage is your driveway and you parked there at 11:30 AM we know this footage that you're looking at was taken at 11:49 AM So so you would've been on that street, that driveway, 19 minutes

10 (30m 13s):
Right across. Right across. Yeah. It's not my driveway, it's my aunt's driveway parking lot was very full. He's walking, he's walking in front of my aunt's house there right now. And my cousin's house is the driveway that is taking that vo photo in my C rv, the gray C rv. And the distance there is, that is my car. I parked there probably 10 minutes before he walked by and I had not seen this footage till just now. And I'm, I, it, it just keeps so many things that keep linking up. It's really astonishing to me. And then, then we went back to this house afterwards they thought they had the, the shooter. So I took a friend of mine, we went back to my aunt's house and said, well, we'll just hang out here for a while.

10 (30m 56s):
And, and, and before long the people were combining the backyard, as you saw, she had the footage of that. And, and pretty soon helicopters are overhead. And so this is very, very local to me. Very, I mean, not only is it Utah, but it's kind of my neighborhood where I spent so much of my childhood and all of my relatives. Yeah, I, this is, this is really astonishing. It's been a, I got up yesterday morning at at six o'clock to drive up and, and meet Charlie and, and I, I haven't been, I haven't been to bed since then 'cause it's just one thing after another after another. And so astonishing that this could happen in Utah.

5 (31m 33s):
Now, just to be clear and to reiterate, 19 minutes before the shooter walks across, he had just pulled into the driveway. Phil Lyman pulled into the driveway. He says that he saw Charlie Kirk that day. We're gonna get to that. Also when he says like he grew up there and his family, I mean his family owns, we were able to determine 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 homes right there. Incredible. Okay. Absolutely incredible. And that his little press tour, obviously now you're like, you know, explaining your car was in the driveway. So it's a, the issue's close to him that kind of makes sense. Then he went on to Alex Jones and spoke about where he was when the shot rang out and was kind of, and I'm laughing here because it's kind of absurd.

5 (32m 17s):
He kind of sort of blames it on these two random goth girls maybe like he's kind of implying like there were these girls that were wearing black and maybe they should be taken a look at further, take a listen. Just

10 (32m 29s):
Yesterday someone comes in and he says, yeah, we, we've got video. He came off the roof, he walked up, he came up here to the parking lot, got in the car with, with an individual. And, and they, and they drove away. Well, that's not the story that came that he, that he escaped another route. And there there's, there are people who are coordinating this thing. I I do not believe that that 30 out six that they showed recovered in the bushes was ever on the roof. I think it was in the bushes to start with. And now I'm not saying that that Tyler Robinson wasn't on the roof. I'm not saying he didn't pull a trigger. I know I was, I was in very, very close proximity. So another interesting thing, like I said, I, I left the front of the stage and wanted to meet some of my friends and bring him down front.

10 (33m 9s):
So I was clear at the east end and I heard this loud boom, I heard this loud bang and I turned around. I'm looking like, what was that? What was that? And, and pretty soon some people started, you know, running. Everyone was trying to process. And I thought, this is a gunshot and there's gonna be more of 'em. I thought it could turn into a mass shooting. So I go to the people closest to me, everyone's ducking down behind the, the concrete retaining walls. And some of 'em were still kind of oblivious, but there were two people that were standing there, two girls very goth, very black, you know, and, and I just walked, I and I stepped up to the side of 'em and I said, did that not happen right here? Did, did you hear that? Was that right here? And they said, yeah, it was just right over there. So they were confirming, yeah, the shooter or or wherever that sound came from is right here.

10 (33m 52s):
The thing that didn't really dawn on me is that they were not running, they were not frightened. In fact, as I stepped up, I heard one of the girls and they were talking to each other and they're looking at these kids, looking at the scene down below 'em of all these people fleeing for their lives. And she says, go f yourselves. And, and, and I, like I said, I was not processing that. I was trying to figure out what was going on. I thought this is a separate conversation. I don't know what it is. In hindsight, as I've watched that over and over, it's like these, these people were not afraid.

5 (34m 22s):
Okay? So what I get from that is he was up high. 'cause he says they're looking down below and that maybe people that are wearing black are immediately suspects. I don't know. 'cause they were not afraid. Anyways, he also went on to a local Utah news station and spoke about how he was with Charlie just before Charlie went on to stage. Take a listen.

11 (34m 41s):
Phil, thanks for joining us first of all. But I saw a picture. Picture, yeah, thank you. I saw a picture of you with Charlie Kirk and it looks like you were like maybe right before he went on stage. Is this just like minutes before this happened?

12 (34m 55s):
Yeah, no, I was, I was, I was basically backstage and, and when he and when he came out was throwing the hats, I was, I was, I was there, I was standing next to the stage and I, and I would've been there when the shooting take took place, but I needed to go meet some of my friends and I didn't wanna just hang, hang around. So, and there's a part of me that's glad that I wasn't in close proximity and part of me that that feels bad that I wasn't there just in some form of moral, you know, presence and support. It's such a tragic thing

5 (35m 25s):
When I combine those clips, I'm kind of unclear as to where he was exactly when the shots rang out, if he was close or if he felt bad that he wasn't close. Anyways, he went onto Instagram that night as Tiffany was prepping her. Good morning America hit, I suppose. And he speaks further about what he was doing back onto campus and what exactly he remembers. Take a listen again. This is on September 10th and it's around 11:30 PM at night.

10 (35m 55s):
Hey, it's September 10th, 2025. And I was just heading back from Salt Lake to Blanding. I'm getting a very late start. It's about 1130 at night and I wanted to swing back by UVU campus where Charlie Kirk was killed today and see if I could let a few of the police officers know how much I appreciate the work they're doing. See if there's some college students here that I could rub shoulders with more for my benefit than for theirs. But what I really wanted to share was, I, I was very close this morning where Charlie Kirk was at, met him backstage and we talked for a moment before he went on stage. And I was backstage as he started speaking, then decided to go up top and, and I went up to the top and ironically was very close to where the shooter was, apparently.

10 (36m 38s):
I, the, the, the shot was very loud and I determined pretty quickly that whoever it was was on, on the roof and it was a 200 yard kill shot.

5 (36m 51s):
Where was he? I don't know. I find this to be a little weird. But look, let's be clear, by no means conclusive of anything other than perhaps a strange coincidence. And maybe this is why he feels so impassioned and wants to keep speaking about it. Also, you know, he's a gubernatorial candidate. Makes sense. This would be a political moment to show that you're a leader. And look, life is not exactly an aga the Christie novel, right? Where the guilty party somehow inserts himself into the investigation. So I park by the side, I keep pushing and I'm following more public leads. But also I, I do recall in the back of my mind that both Phil and Tiffany Barker, and as it would turn out another person that lives on that street with a last name Shumway, kept trying to get me to look into Governor Cox because he's, according to Tiffany, very supportive of the trans stuff.

5 (37m 36s):
You should look into Tiffany. Tiffany said into, into Governor Cox. And similarly the Shumway emails were like, you should look into this Governor Cox. 'cause he, he likes trans. So they're open and close. That feels to me always just like Fed Bay left versus right, right? He likes trans people. So it has to be him. Okay, oddly, look, I'm just following the facts here. Nothing in my investigation has made me ha ask a question further about Governor Cox on that day. Nothing came up organically, so I'm not gonna push it just because he's a democrat. And actually where I was at, at this process, what's that? Oh, pushing that because Governor Cox is his, sorry I said Democrat because he's his, you know, he's warring with him and that's the candidate that he wants to go after.

5 (38m 24s):
And I actually start noticing as I'm looking into this investigation that everyone who was involved on that day, I mean literally the person who spots the shooter on the roof military, the person who says, oh, the, the he, I just cap happened to be in the right place in the flag of halls where I saw him running also in the military. And I'm starting to think, is it possible that this is like a military hit? I don't know. But I'd like to find out. Next came a tip that you guys saw me receive live on the show. Someone paid, a woman paid to say, Candace, there's more footage of the shooter on that day. And you should know that that shooter was with a woman, right?

5 (39m 4s):
That's the tip that I seen. That that woman, that the, the shooter was with a woman and he was seen changing clothes and that they've cut out that footage. So I reach out to that individual and the name that they give me for the house that this took place in, and I'm able to confirm that this property is nearby is owned by Lyman Branch. So now I wanna be clear, I could not attach whether or not yet this individual is related to Phil Lyman, but he's been honest about the fact that his family lives around there a lot. Like, you know, the Steel Lyman clan is, is here. So I was a little bit on alert, maybe like a lot of bit on alert and I decided to just do a ba a basic search.

5 (39m 49s):
And Phil Lyman like, is, is his family in the military? I don't know. I'm asking the question to myself and I'm quite surprised that it's impossible for me to find out who his mother and father are. Like I literally don't know what goes on in Utah, but it seems like a very weird thing to me that you would be able to keep information about who your mom and dad are private if you're running for governor, right? So I just simply ask Nick, I haven't shared any of this with Nick because I know that he worked for Phil Lyman and I'm not accusing Phil Lyman of anything. I'm just like trying to actually shut that down. And he says, I actually, I don't know who mom and dad are. I'm like, what do you mean you don't, okay, weird whatever. I then decide to keep pushing on military leads that I have people that were on the ground that day who I've confirmed were in the military.

5 (40m 36s):
Anyways, then something insane happens. Nick calls me and he's a little bit undone. He tells me that Phil Lyman has just showed up at his house. Now I want to be very clear, Nick is 20 years old. He's a 20-year-old UVU student and a major super fan of Phil as of 48 hours ago. And he's very uncomfortable. And he tells me that Phil randomly messaged him saying that he was nearby in town, in town rather, and asked Nick for his address, something that he, he never had. And Nick quite naively being this Phil Super fan, thinks that Phil's gonna come and offer him a job because he's been been so on it investigating this Charlie Kirk assassination.

5 (41m 25s):
And that's not what happens at all. Instead he says that he shows up, he opens door for him and his energy is very weird and he's asking him weird questions. He's looking out of the window nervously. He sits down at the table, he's asking him questions about my investigation. I'm like, I shared nothing with Nick. I literally was asking him, can you go here, pick up this, whatever it is. And he is thinking, this is getting weird. I said, what specifically did he, did he say to you? Well, he tells me that Phil has also set up a time to meet with Ian Carroll. Okay, so Ian Carroll is conducting his own separate investigation. We are not collaborating at all, but Ian Carroll publicized that he was going up to Utah 'cause he wanted to be on the ground physically by himself.

5 (42m 8s):
And he was reaching out to people that who, who had been speaking about having been there. And Phil Lyman is so gracious that he offers to give him a tour. And Nick tells me, he's like, that's really weird now because we're like two weeks on from this shooting. And Phil Lyman lives four hours away. So that's, that's very, very gracious of him to do. But his energy isn't good. And then he mentions Governor Cox and he mentions Tyler Boyer of Turning Point USA and says that again, this is according to Nick that Tyler Boyer and the the lineman had been speaking and that they're, you know, really gonna make Governor Cox.

5 (42m 53s):
And I'm, I'm paraphrasing here, but apparently there's a a u another Utah event, USU event coming up and Governor Cox is supposed to speak and Phil Lyman intimates that like, you know this at this TPUS event, governor Cox isn't gonna look great. I'm like, what? He then tells him, I'm gonna go, if you don't mind, I'm gonna go take a phone call in my car. So he is just idling in a 20 year old's driveway who just happened to work on his campaign and he's on the phone and this is, he's, why he's calling me panicking. I don't know what to do. I don dunno what to do. I don dunno what's happening. I don't know why he's being so weird. I don dunno why he is asking me questions about this investigation. And I'm like, yeah, this is weird. This is very weird.

5 (43m 33s):
So then I'm like, I'm, I'm honing in here. I'm like, what? What's going on? I feel like he knows something at the very least, maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I feel. And I begin actually searching through our tips box for anything related to Phil, related to Phil Lyman. Maybe somebody else noticed something or knew something or he said something. And lo and behold, very early on someone just messaged us and said, Hey, like you should probably ask more questions about Phil Lyman because every time I look into this investigation locally, him and his family members are popping up. And then that person tells me that his nephew had sort of done this public tour, like Phil Lyon's nephew did this public tour saying that he was going to walk the same route that the shooter walked near his grandmother's house and that they found, you guys remember this, they found the converse footprint nearby his grandma's house.

5 (44m 24s):
And he presented a map like this is it, this is actually from his Instagram. He presents this map and his nephew's name is Shane. And this, again, this is all public. I'm only looking at things publicly and let's just look at some of these posts from nephew Shane. I mean, First and foremost, he here, he's with his friends, said, I took my friends to my grandma's house tonight and we retraced his steps and we took pictures in the exact place that the security cameras caught him. I've been through this new experience for the last few days. I'm still very glad to have attended and to support Charlie Kirk and to see him the last pick shows, converse, brand footprints, and then he does hashtags. And here are him and the three friends. And by the way, I'm looking at his, the front on the right and I'm like,

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5 (45m 39s):
I don't know, I, I'd like to know who that is at the very least. And I'd like to know who everybody in this photo is. This is just interesting, like you guys are, are in the staircase and posting byside, like they put these side by side photos of them in the staircase. And I just was like, I, I need to just know more about you and I need to know more about these two individuals who I couldn't find on his friends list. And they certainly hadn't liked the photo or else I would've messaged them directly to figure out who they are. And yeah, I found, I found that very strange. And So I messaged Nick and I asked him whether or not he had ever received any images or videos from Phil directly. At the very least we can see his line of vision So I can figure out where exactly he was when the shots went out.

5 (46m 23s):
And I'm wondering if like, we can maybe get some footage that we didn't have before when the shots ran out. And also, by the way, metadata is king. That's kind of been very, it's good to see, 'cause then I can put it in my timeline. That's why I love metadata. I can say this exactly happened at this time. Strangely, Phil kind of freaks out. He doesn't wanna share those photos with Nick. And he asks him explicitly, whose side are you on? Whose side are you on? I thought we were all on the same side. We're all trying to catch Charlie Kirk's killer one way or the other. You, you inserted yourself into this, got on the phone with me, I was not even trying to make any communication with you.

5 (47m 5s):
I literally am just asking questions. And now all of a sudden it's like, oh, you don't wanna answer any questions, you don't wanna share anything. And he tells me that yesterday Phil Lyman just calls him and he shouts at him like, who the f do you think you are? Kind of a deal. You know what I mean? Like, who are you to ask me for anything? I already gave my photos to Taylor Hansen. And so at that point I was like, look, you've been great Nick, but I don't want you being shouted out. I don't want you feeling comfortable in your own home. I would like you to just remove yourself entirely from the boots on the ground elements of this investigation. I don't think Phil is acting in a way that I perceive to be stable given the fact that, again, he inserted himself in this investigation and we're asking, he, he, this is my car, the street, okay, you wanna be helpful, we're asking you to be helpful, and now all of a sudden you're showing up at 20 year old's house and you're being weird.

5 (47m 54s):
I don't like it. I don't, I don't, I don't like it at all. And I said, I, I could reach out to Phil directly by myself. And I did. I reached out to both Phil and I reached out to his nephew Shane, and I asked for them to identify the guys in that photo. Like I said, I was interested in who those individuals were because I couldn't find it on his friend list. And in response, Shane immediately takes his profile, private and Lyman Phil Lyman leaves me on red. So I am now left in the predicament where I need to just ask the public, if you are one of those two kids that are in the photos there, I would love to ask you some questions since you publicized this tour.

5 (48m 34s):
I mean, they even did the full video walking through where he walked. And you know, he said, my uncle, he even posted, he posted Phil Lyons and my uncle was with Charlie. This is the video that they posted. Everything was done publicly. And now I'm like, okay, you could maybe, maybe you have something that's helpful, I wanna ask you about, could you send me that photo? Could you send me that video? Could you send me all of this stuff? And now I'm getting radio silence. So unfortunately, because I need to figure out what happened on that day, I'm turning to the public to try to identify those people and anything else that you may know that may help put things together for us. Again, please preserve the tips@caniszones.com for actual tips related to the questions that we are asking, not for just comments, those sorts of things, videos that you'd like me to watch or things that you'd like to do to point me into a different direction.

5 (49m 25s):
Please just tag us on social media so that we can try to manage this process better. Anyways, you guys given you a lot, a lot of weird stuff going on. Just need to know what on earth happened on that day. I'm gonna get to some of your comments here.

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5 (50m 45s):
All right, you guys. So what do you think is, is it weird for a gubernatorial candidate to arrive at a 20 year old's house? Yes, I can answer that for you. That is weird. That is very weird. That was weird. Okay, there's no way around that. And again, hopefully he will answer and he will just send me some videos and that will be, yeah, that'll be case close and maybe he doesn't want to help anymore. That's fine. But you can't insert yourself and then pretend you're under attack. When people then go, Hey, can you answer some basic questions? Marsy is writing to us. She writes, looking into the bullet made me think of the poisoned bullet when hit men intentionally use a bullet to cause a lot of damage from tumbling and fragmentation.

5 (51m 29s):
This is done by keyholing the round to tumble or bounce into the body for internal, internal damage causing many wounds. I actually did not know that at all. I'm super ignorant on the topic of ballistics and things that are actually done. That is, I never even heard about key holding. So thank you for sharing that. Caitlyn Derigan writes Candace as a journalism student with an insatiable thirst for the truth. You are a true model of real journalism. I hope to one day get the chance to work with you, keep doing everything that you do. May God continue to protect you and your family. I love you, girl. Yeah, I mean, my insatiable thirst is to figure out what happened that day. My gut instinct is that this was a military operation based off everything that I've seen in the lingering questions that I have and some other leads that we are working on. That's how I feel.

5 (52m 9s):
And even when I was trying to find Ms. Mike Mitchell, I, I could find the Mitchell family, I don't know if it's his family, but the Mitchell name in that area. I was coming up for like Air Force. And So I, again, when I get into these places where I can't find any more information, I turn to you guys to help me out. But I find it very strange that you would protect somebody who's been on the force for 24 years. Like what? You're, you've always been a public figure, essentially. And I, I think Brooksby has some nervous energy there when he's like, oh, he called me. That's just totally usual. It's not weird. It's like nobody said it was weird, so why are you answering for something that nobody said? Little things like that. It's the same thing, like when I saw Tiffany's interview, it just, I, I just found it like most of you did to be odd, given the fact that they hit mammo still on the run, that you would bring your nieces there.

5 (52m 56s):
And she ex gave her explanation. And like I said, you can go to her Instagram. She has asked us repeatedly to send you guys to her Instagram where she explains why her, why they decided to go back that early in the morning. And like I said, Phil Lyman was the one who got her the hits or Phil Lyman's office. Her sister got her the hit on Good Morning America. Kristen Thet w Candace, I'm so sorry for the loss of your dear friend. I agree that it's weird the people closest to him are just moving on. I feel this whole story is very twisted and you, you are the only one who's capable of unraveling the truth. Yeah. And sadly, the people that I am in partnership with on demanding more answers are not even people who were friends with Charlie Kirk. They're just like, obviously this is wrong and this is weird.

5 (53m 37s):
And I'm on the left. Maybe Max Blumenthal dropping, he dropped a bunch of articles last week and I think he's got more coming out. Why is Max Blumenthal, who wasn't a friend of Charlie Kirk, more interested in what happened to Charlie Kirk than the people closest to him? That strikes me as very odd. Just odd. I mean, no elements. They could, at the very least, name the donors, get a little bit of revenge name. The donors who were pressuring him tell the truth about what was happening there. They won't do any, they're just like, oh, it's all good. It's all good. No, it's not all good actually, not all good at all. Bitsy writes, the whole world is a stage used to hurdle the cattle and the direction that they wanna take us. It's all lies. I rejected all Lord Jesus Christ is king in deed bitsy Miranda Allen writes, I wish I could do more.

5 (54m 20s):
My thoughts and prayers are with you as you find truth and also mourn a lost friend. God bless and keep you. Pray it works. I, I really do believe praying protection over the people who are trying to discover what happened is significant. It, it is. I I really do believe that everyone needs prayer and protection at this moment. Cassie writes, many people I follow on social media have lost credibility with me because they're not asking any questions at all. I can't imagine calling Charlie a friend and not questioning any of this. Yeah, that's what's great. It's like, at the very least, I would expect them to get up there and be like, what are, what's up with these Fed messages? This is weird. No, they're all just like, mm, let's move on. And we're just gonna, his legacy is gonna be, we're just gonna continue the organization without him.

5 (55m 2s):
I mean, like I was thinking if I'm Charlie and I'm looking down, I'm just like, what? Dang. I thought we were super close. Really be like, the vibes are not vibing there. I know Savannah would investigate Savannah's crazy Savannah, she would investigate. She would be crazy. She was super crazy. She'd be wearing all pink going down to Utah. That's what Savannah would do. Kaya writes, it's 1963 all over again. They don't like people asking questions. Furthermore, Ian being mentioned Yeah, random. And I called Ian. I was like, Hey, Ian, just letting you know, like, I don't know. I I don't think he's going to necessarily put you on a tour to try to help you because he's not being very kind right now to this poor guy, Nick, who was like a super Phil Imon super fan, and I think that went sideways.

5 (55m 48s):
Kayah continues prayer for you and him. You're getting close to something. Keep going. Christ is king. And then my producer has a note that there are a lot of comments asking about the microphone theory. Here's what I will say about that. I, when I first saw the footage thought as well that something came upward, but when I looked at image from the side, the microphone is still on him afterwards. So like when you see it from on, it looks like it kind of disappears, but then it kind of shifts. When you look at the, when you look at the per the perspective, slightly to the left, you see that it actually stays on him and it's just in the fold. Again, I don't know enough about weaponry to say that that's possible or not possible, but I would imagine if anything did sling into him with that kind of a force, it would fall off.

5 (56m 33s):
And I can tell you it doesn't fall off. There's another theory that I'm still looking into that has been presented that I think is definitely interesting. It's definitely interesting and I'm trying to play my cards close to my chest as I ask certain questions. Probably we'll have more on that maybe tomorrow or the next day. But yeah, I I, I do think it's very weird that he was micd after he sat down, tell you that that's never happened to me at a Turning Point event. They mic you backstage always. So yeah. I I thought that was strange. There's a lot of things that were being done for the first time that day, and I'm going, I'm planning on revealing all of them.

5 (57m 15s):
By the way. I'm just waiting for everybody to like join me. Where, where, where are Charlie's homies at? Why are you guys all silent? Something's not right. I know it's not right. Okay. We don't know now, but we know, you know, we don't know. No, but we know. And soon we're gonna know now. And that's all I'm gonna say about that. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

9/25/25
Charlie Kirk Expressed Concerns About TPUSA Finances | Candace Ep 243

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1 (15s):
All right you guys. So A week before Charlie lost his life, he expressed some concerns about the finances at Turning Point USA. In fact, he wanted to put together an entire department, a little mini department to address those concerns. And we have evidence of that. It is always the advice when investigating any crime to quote unquote follow the money. So let's do that just a little bit here. Plus there is a video that has gone absolutely viral. I am sure you have seen it. It was emailed to me many times where there is a theory that is being floated that Charlie was shot from the back. Now there are two aspects in that video that we can debunk and I wanna do that. And there's one aspect that we cannot debunk clearly.

1 (58s):
I think this is a worldwide investigation, So I wanna assist wherever it is that I can. So Welcome back to Candace. There's a lot of leaking going on right now and I've been very clear that everything in my soul has been screaming at me from the very moment that I found out that Charlie got shot. That this story is much bigger. That there just was something much bigger going on than what has thus far, far been presented to the public.

1 (1m 40s):
You know, all of the wrong people are eulogizing him. They're lying about small things, which I don't like because why lie about small things? Only a guilty conscience of sorts lies about little things. And there are a few points that we have covered throughout the story that right away jumped out at me as odd. First and foremost, of course, Bibi Netanyahu over inserting himself, not even just on day one, minutes one, he tweeted before the President of the United States that Charlie had lost his life. That's weird. That is very weird. And we should not forget how weird that is, especially because when he went on multiple hits doing Fox News and Greta Van Cisterns show, he lied about the contents of a letter that Charlie Kirk had written him back in May.

1 (2m 28s):
What I also don't like are the people like Josh Hammer and Seth Dylan. People that I know who are very nasty and work behind the scenes. I don't like that they have not yet been honest or forthcoming about the pressure that they and others were putting on Charlie Kirk. That just strikes me as odd. There's no reason to lie. No, no, no reason to pretend that you weren't doing that, to try to massage it and lie about it. I, I believe that there are lies by omission and I view them both to be liars. Okay? And of course, who could forget the word length of Bill Ackman's reply. I tell you guys about this weekend in the Hamptons, I tell you about BB net and Yahoo, calling Charlie Kirk and inviting him to Israel and Bill Ackman replies with an essay, college essay, 959 words to be precise was his response to me speaking about that.

1 (3m 22s):
Where he himself did not actually address my point about the quote unquote intervention, which is how Charlie described it himself. And my point about BB net and Yahoo and the offer to take turning point to the next level financially, no one wants to address those points because I was being honest. People thought that Charlie's ideas were trending in the wrong direction. And by the way, regarding that now infamous weekend, the response videos that were made, which seemed like there was some sort of a PR crisis going on, the response tweets that were fashioned, they were sort of getting funny. Xavier Deso was there.

1 (4m 3s):
I had reached out to him. He had, in rather than answering me, messaged me to say I am speaking out about that weekend. He made a video where he formally addressed the weekend and explained that yes, Charlie, and he uses the phrase moral blackmail. Charlie spoke about feeling morally blackmailed. But this was done in more of a workshop setting, essentially like, like it was a debate club and they were strengthening their debates on the topic of Israel. We could take a listen to Xavier Deso in his own words.

3 (4m 38s):
And then people are taking things outta context. 'cause there was like a, in the article, the hit piece that came out, it talks about how Charlie raised up his phone and had written on Twitter and he said something like, BB needs to resign or something like that. And he goes, what would happen if I do this? There was discourse. And then there was one woman who sat in the back who said, if you do that, you're indirectly going to empower Hamas. And then Charlie was like, see you have to stop saying like that. He was saying that when you are debating about Israel, you need to stop doing it emotionally. You need to do it logically and factually, otherwise you lose the debate. He said it is moral blackmail if you say that somebody's saying that a politician is bad, that you're then empowering a terrorist organization. Fair argument.

1 (5m 19s):
It was a fair argument, but it also was a real argument. And you kind of removed the names that were involved in this conversation. Natasha House Dorf was there, Seth Dylan was there and Seth Di was the one that was applying pressure to him. And Seth Dylan and Josh Hammer, Josh Hammer didn't jump on him in that moment. Were not happy. They were not happy with Charlie at the end of this weekend in the Hamptons because again, they saw which way the wind was traveling in terms of his positions on BB Netanyahu and Israel. And they were in fact being accusatory. And again, you don't have to take it in my words or Xavier's words, I've always had a friendly relationship with Xavier. But we should listen to Charlie's own words, which we have played multiple times of what happened the day after this little weekend retreat where he vented to me, Kelly, his frustrations with him being wrongly labeled anti-Semitic and how it was actually pushing him away.

1 (6m 10s):
And it wasn't good for Israel then. And that one of the big questions that we discovered, or that we asked and something that we had discovered was that this weekend was kept hush hush. Which is extraordinarily unusual for a turning point event. If you're gonna fly your influencers out, you want them to influence obviously. And Xavier offered this explanation for why they didn't post about the weekend until they were rumbled about the weekend. Take a listen.

3 (6m 41s):
And then you have the people who are trying to go and say that, oh, then why was the meeting so secretive? The photos were already on my Instagram. The reason we didn't post that in the real time was because of safety. Do you know how many people would've loved to come and slaughter that whole hotel

1 (6m 59s):
Feeling like Justin Bieber? 'cause it's, it's not, it's not clocking for me. You like, I'm sorry. So first off, you guys never connected to turning point USA publicly. The photos that you posted, if you posted it after the event, I don't think that it's because you were fearful that what, just being a conservative in the Hamptons was gonna get you slaughtered. Like were there Hamas tunnels under the Hamptons that doesn't, that doesn't make sense. That makes entirely no sense. And we should call out how little sense that makes. Especially because one of the influencers did post on August 6th that she was in the Hamptons. Actually Emily, Emily loves America. Emily saves America, pardon in me said when she was fighting with somebody about how little their engagement ring was during this weekend.

1 (7m 45s):
How do you guys expect to have a house land in multiple kids? Be for real. Sorry, I'm MIA, I'm in the Hamptons. So are conservatives not allowed to be in the Hamptons without getting slaughtered? Are, is it specifically conservative influencers? You said that it wasn't a Peris Israel event. So I guess it, there's no Israel angle here, which does, of course there's tons of Zionists in the Hamptons, the Blackman among them. So I don't understand. You couldn't post the, you were the Hamptons because you were gonna get killed. How? I need more information there. 'cause that's just, that's just silly. And I also love the context of him doing this on PR uses platform. I obviously worked for PR UI know Marissa Strait. This is, I am looking at Marissa Strait right there, right there.

1 (8m 28s):
A little PR operation to address the points without actually addressing the points and to make it seem like it was nothing. And that's not the reality. You know, Marissa has never, always been open about the fact that she worked for the IDF intelligence. And like I said, you could sense there was a PR panic when people started speaking about the weekend. I told you guys the truth. That's it. Okay. I don't like the fact that Charlie was literally facing financial threats over his speech. The thing that mattered most to him, right? Fighting for free speech, even if you disagreed with somebody, you know, you gotta make sure that they have a right to express their viewpoints. And what happened to me a year earlier seemed to be happening to him one year later.

1 (9m 9s):
Another thing that I really do not like and it is bothering me and is eating at me, is the fact that Turning Point will not release the footage. Okay? I don't understand it. Every excuse that I have been handed for, why they won't release it makes no sense to me. If you are under pressure, if people are starting to look at you funny as an organization, if they're thinking that whether rightfully or wrongfully, if they are suspecting because they see this footage of someone quickly remove the SD cards that you guys had something to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk and you quite literally have footage that in theory should vindicate yourself, why wouldn't you release it? Think about that.

1 (9m 49s):
Just in your own capacity, if somebody is saying you are guilty of anything, if they're like, Candace, you are absolutely guilty of breaking into my car and I'm like, I have a camera right here that shows that I did not break into your car. Would it make sense if I was like, but I'm not gonna release that. I'm not gonna release that because it's not right, it's not right for me to release what? It makes no sense. I don't understand why they would not release this. The idea that it's because, well the Feds are saying the Feds cannot arrest you. Last I checked, the Feds cannot bring charges against you for releasing footage that you own. And since when do we trust the feds? Certainly Charlie didn't, he didn't believe we were getting the truth about the Epstein files and things of that nature.

1 (10m 33s):
So I don't accept that. That said, I also wanna be clear that it doesn't mean that every single person that is continuing on in the organization is guilty of murder. I mean, I think we want answers, but we should be like, you know, this person's definitely a murderer because they're not providing the answers. You know, I've been speaking and I've been seeing a lot of vitriol that's been thrown at Andrew Vet's way because he is doing press, he is carrying on Charlie Kirk's show, he was already seated on Charlie Kirk's show. He was already there and I was being genuine when I said he's under a lot of pressure. There's no question he's the spokesperson for Turning Point USA and he's grieving somebody that he knows and who was a very close, if not one of his best friends, he saw every day doing the Charlie Kirk show and he's still gotta deal with the same donors that Charlie was dealing with.

1 (11m 23s):
I mean, it's a lot going on, you know? And until we have all the facts in front of us, until we actually see the footage, I think we should be careful in just thinking that everybody is guilty of something. I want you guys to also though be conscious of all lies that we are being told by the federal government because that feels extremely guilty to me. We haven't received any updates whatsoever on the raid that took place of Lance's house where Tyler Robinson was living at the time of this crime. No update whatsoever on Lance. You know, he just completely fell to the wayside. So forget it. Forget asking any questions about Lance.

1 (12m 3s):
And my instinct has always been that the Feds injected themselves immediately into this case because they were staging a coverup. And now I feel as though we can almost establish that as a fact when I tell you something else that happened here. My next point. So as you know, I have been positively obsessed with who killed Charlie Kirk. 'cause he was my friend, he was actually my friend, everyone else who can eulogize all they want. Some of it felt a little cheap and fake and gay, but for me, this is real. So I had been hunting down all the videos, all of the footage, and wanted to go back to ground zero as we did yesterday of the initial videos that went viral on social media and on x on the day that Charlie was assassinated.

1 (12m 45s):
And it occurred to me that I forgot about one video, actually the only video that exists of the shooter sprinting across the rooftop a mere seconds after the shot was fired. Now you probably recall that video in the back of your mind. You remember that video that was going viral with him, seen running across the roof? Well, I'm about to show it to you in a much clearer quality than you have ever seen it. A higher quality than you have ever seen that video. Remember before I show it to you, sati us up. It is just a couple of seconds after the sound of a shot rang out, let's watch this together and kind of, and we're gonna just cover that.

1 (13m 27s):
It kind of looks like he's got something trailing behind him too. Maybe that's the towel that we've been told about. We can play that again as you watch this. Now, let me tell you how I tracked down this footage. It took me all of two hours to track down this footage to get the name of the person who had filmed the footage. And to from there, after messaging someone on Twitter, they said, I got the footage from this person. This is the person that shot it and he's willing to speak to you. I get in touch with this individual, okay? Very quickly it was all transpired in a couple of hours. And you will never guess what it is that he told me. He told me that neither the feds nor the local police had ever reached out to him.

1 (14m 13s):
Never. I'm sorry, what? You have one of two people who have a recording of the shooter at All, right? At all. And the feds were simply not interested as they were executing this manhunt of reaching out to the individual who had footage of him running across the roof. How could that be? Why? Why would that be? Somebody explained to me make it make sense for me maybe in the fog and the chaos. Sure. But at no point did they go, Hey, hmm, I see this really grainy image that's gone viral on Twitter.

1 (14m 58s):
Maybe I should reach out to the person that made it go viral and see if I can track down that person So I can get clear data, meaning the metadata that exists, which will tell you the exact second that the person was running to make sure it lines up with my federal timeline that I must be creating. If little old candidates is doing it, then I'm sure the feds at the top are definitely creating a second by second timeline just like I am. But no, they never reached out to him. Now I'll tell you what else I discovered because a lot is going on and we similarly, by the way, reached out to the person who shot the footage and said somebody is on the roof. We spoke about that earlier this week. He told us the exact same thing. He says he walked in and gave the footage to the Orum Police Department.

1 (15m 43s):
Okay? Nobody. And they said, you know, we were overwhelmed on that day one, which makes sense. Everybody contacting, calling someone says, I have this so it makes sense that he would be on the offense and getting them the footage. But the Feds never reached out to him until the 15th after Governor Cox said the investigation was over and they had the guy, the feds reached out to him and said, Hey, you're the one who shot that footage. Yeah, did you make a police report? He said, yeah, I did. And oh really? We didn't know that. What do you mean you didn't know that? That this is the first time the federal government on the 15th decided to reach out to the other person who saw the person climbing the roof. I mean, and saw the person getting into the shooting position.

1 (16m 24s):
You never reached out to him until September 15th. Yeah, my friends, that looks to me like a coverup. Not like you're trying to get to the bottom of something. Not with the amount of money that the feds have. You can't tell me that they did not reach out to these two individuals. It makes entirely no sense. There's another piece of this that is getting quite interesting and I will say that this next piece that I have is in large part thanks to a multi multitude of leaks that are coming out of Turning Point USA. Now right away you might ask why is that happening? Well, I can tell you in my experience, political organizations sometimes don't recognize that they are not like corporate organizations.

1 (17m 6s):
And what I mean by that is not whether or not the organization is a corporate, but rather sometimes they get the wrong idea that they can sort of do things that people can do on Wall Street, right? Like if a CEO steps down from Wendy's, you can just replace that person as another CEO and nobody cares if you're buying chicken nuggets from Wendy's. You don't really care who the CEO is. It doesn't really work like that with political organizations, right? Political when it comes to politics, people get behind someone because they believe in that individual's ideas, right? You can't just play a swap sea all the time or think it's just gonna go on and you're still gonna have that same energy behind you. And so obviously this is a terrible situation and, and Charlie is gone.

1 (17m 47s):
But with people not getting answers, right? With people that are working at Turning Point USA, not feeling like okay are, are we as an organization fighting? Are we like, are we gonna speak about the things that Charlie cared about? Are we gonna call out the things that we feel are wrong here? They're not, they're not wanting to get behind that. They feel that the organization is now being motivated just by money and that this company's priorities have somewhat shifted and that really how people on the outside that are looking in are going, what's going on here? Why are people not more rattled by the lies that are being told? Actually, I think if, if Charlie were here, he'd be talking about the weird things that were being told about this story, right?

1 (18m 29s):
Ironically, And so many people have reached out and they spoke about the finances at Turning Point USA. And you know, I'm not exactly a forensic accountant, but I know that other people, other journalists got really interested in this angle who were similarly receiving leaks and have pushed this off to forensic accountants and some of the stuff it's getting very interesting. But I did wanna show you guys this because I think this proves what we have been hearing. It's at least a starting point. An insider who said that they were there and present when Charlie had expressed some concerns about where the money was going and leading up to that moment, Charlie had by and large, completely removed himself outside of the organ of fundraising.

1 (19m 14s):
Which is to say that he, you know, it wasn't something that he necessarily had his finger on. Of course he always would show up for top donor meetings. He's the face of the company. But in terms of the accounting specifics, he trusted his lieutenants. Of course something that big, you know you're clearing a hundred million dollars a year, you gotta have lieutenants and you have to trust those lieutenants. And of course sometimes those leaders don't like one another. That's all normal. But then there arrived a moment when Charlie felt that the money was disappearing. Allegedly, I'll say allegedly here, but I think we have some proof that shows that. And the excuses that he was being given for the money disappearing wasn't adding up for Charlie said another way the math wasn't matting, okay, he felt that again according to sources that the company was burning through cash too quickly.

1 (20m 5s):
And Charlie set about finding out why and how this was happening. So on September 2nd, which is of course just one week before he lost his life, Charlie surprised the company by announcing that he was putting together a Doge department. Yes, a department of government efficiency like Elon Musk and the Baker Ramas Swami had set out to do, Trump won. They got behind him, right? They said, Hey, there's a lot of pork, we don't know where this money is going. People are just accepting checks. Again, this is the whole purpose of the Department of Joe Doge. You put us in there and we're gonna figure out how all of these bureaucrats are just wasting tax dollars.

1 (20m 49s):
Really kind of a nice way of saying we're gonna conduct an audit of the government, right? That's the only way to look at what Doge was. It's an audit and then you cut the fat and you see where the money's actually going. Don't listen to me by the way, because we can read Charlie in his own words. This was a internal memo that went out, signed off by Charlie on September 2nd. I'm gonna skip to the relevant portions. It's he's First and foremost announcing that Dear Team America, effective immediately again, September 2nd, Justin Strife is taking on a new elevated role with Turning Point USA as its COO. Since joining T-P-U-S-A in 2020, Justin has led Turning Point's fundraising division and in more recent years has been involved in some organizational operations, filling the COO role in many ways, but now officially taking on the title and expanded responsibilities.

1 (21m 40s):
Now we're gonna jump to that last big paragraph. What's in this role? I have empowered Justin among other priorities to engage in an organizational wide doge effort. Justin will be assembling a small team to assist in this effort, which is focused on turning point USA one, becoming more efficient, two, becoming more cost effective. Three, unifying organizational success around company-wide metrics and goals. And for reshaping company culture, I expect many positive changes to come from this forthcoming initiative and Justin's expanded role. Please join me in congratulating just Justin on this new role with the organization. So I felt that with all of the rumors that I'm hearing to see that Charlie was essentially putting together a small team to begin looking at money and ways to be more quote unquote deficient.

1 (22m 31s):
It's looking like that's, that that's relevant. That that all of these tips that we are receiving from insiders is accurate. And what we're understanding is that there were a lot of contractors and people essentially who were taking money both ways, who were bringing in money and cutting deals said simply the money was looking funny. Okay? And Charlie set out to determine why, which means that others should maybe set out to determine why is, is this department still going? And like I said to you, others are setting out to determine why there are journalists, forensic accountants that have been hired and what I have been shown, the preliminary findings are quite astonishing.

1 (23m 15s):
Okay? And I will say this, my sources at Turning Point said something that I found to be found to be crucial. Interesting. They said that Charlie wasn't just concerned about where the money was going but also where the money was coming from, where the money was coming from. What are we to make of that? Okay, what are we to make in that? What does that mean? Either speaking about companies that were kind of flooding the zone with money so that they could have more influence, but they had questions about those companies. It sounds like there were people who were effectively double agents making money on commissions on both sides of a contract.

1 (23m 59s):
I've seen a lot and I'm going to allow the reports to come out next week that people who have really ceased upon that and are looking at things and I think a lot's going to be revealed, like I said, as it should. We wanna know everything. We wanna know absolutely everything. I'm gonna tell you guys a bit more as well as responding to a lot of what I think are just unfair criticisms of people that are attacking Erica. And I'll tell you why I feel that those criticisms are unfair. But first I wanna throw it to Riverbend Ranch. I told you I met the CEO of this company when I was with Charlie years ago and we went out to meet him. Wonderful person. Everyone wanted to do something to try and heal.

1 (24m 39s):
Remember, remember Charlie and my friends at Riverbend Ranch put together the following tribute to honor him.

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1 (26m 48s):
Okay, I wanna add first address 'cause I've received so many emails. Candace, have you seen this? Have you watched this? And it is range day bro on YouTube and he has the video is just absolutely virals. Got 6 million views. And By the way, I am so happy that it's got 6 million views everybody investigating. This is exactly what we need and nobody is going to be perfect. We're gonna get things wrong and we can only work with the information that's given us, that's been given to us and for whatever reason it's very limited. So every time I'm anything that I'm, I'm debunking here is just because I wanna help focus his investigation. But so he presents an argument that you can see a muzzle flash and there is one element of his video where he shows what he believes to be blood splatter as an entry point on Charlie's neck.

1 (27m 37s):
So we can watch that, take a listen

8 (27m 40s):
And in that video you can see the same what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself. So not coming gang violence Greg.

9 (27m 52s):
So this video was created by a friend of mine who is a Marine. You'll see him here at the end. This is the angle he is showing, the shot coming from showing where Charlie was sitting and the angle of the shot, which will correspond with this video here, which unfortunately we will blur out Charlie's face. But we will show what is necessary to prove that this was an entry and exit wound. So you'll see him circle the highlighted area right there and you'll see the exit wound corresponding after a split second after as it would from an entry and exit wound. So in this footage you can clearly see that Charlie is shot from his back, right?

9 (28m 32s):
And there is blood splatter coming out of the entry wound.

1 (28m 38s):
Okay? So what I can immediately help with because I have so much footage and clearer footage of that, is that it's actually not blood splatter. And I was very surprised by this. It's his necklace. That is his necklace and it was one of the things that struck me as odd and I I, I saw the back footage and then I have clear footage from the front and the necklace goes first and it I am, if I'm looking at it, it looks like it breaks from here and then it comes up and it whips up. That is Charlie's necklace chain. So I hope that that sort of helps focus that and I don't know if that helps change and opinion at all. But I wanted to add that. The second thing is I wanted to show you a photo, a different angle of where that flash that he is looking at came from.

1 (29m 19s):
Because the thing that I don't understand is that particular window doesn't open. So if it, if you're saying it's inside and I might be wrong, so you can see, and I hope I have this right, if I'm wrong, please let me know and I and I will adjust it immediately. But that window is from that zone which they call like the flag hall, which is where that person actually shot the footage. He's on the other side of it where we saw the person running across the roof that's basically above the underpass. And so you can see from this angle that those windows, I know If we have a more front forward picture of that sky, if we don't, it's okay. But from everything that I could see, those windows don't open. So if it's coming from inside, if that's where you're saying and I had that location correctly, again, I'm happy to update this some.

1 (30m 4s):
If I'm wrong then we should see broken glass. So let me know if I'm right about that. I will say there was another piece and this part I have not been able to debunk, but I am sending someone there to get me similar footage, which is when you discuss a suspicious looking bush. So I will let you, I will let range day bro present that theory. Take a listen.

9 (30m 27s):
I wanna take a look at this photo next. This guy's talking about this bush up here in the top left of this photo and he zooms in on it and he's stating that it does look suspicious. It does look suspicious. It looks like there is a person right here and it looks like there is a rifle right here that that person is holding a hand here a support hand. Sort of very blurry image but you can clearly make out this is not just a bush, this is a human skin tone right here. And this correlates with human head and hair and a rifle in the exact kind of crucifix shape of an AR 15 with an optic on it mounted up.

1 (31m 5s):
So what I can say, and I'm looking at my minute to minute text messages 'cause I sent somebody there on the ground to get me pictures of that bush today. And I agree with you in the smaller, in in, in the photos and I'm looking at today the bush, you can kind of see through it and in the image that you have granted it is grainy. It doesn't seem like you can see through it. So I am interested in that and I am prodding that narrative and I will let you know what I come up with. Anyways, again, the point of me doing that was just to help further direct your theories. Everybody's is coming out with ideas and I think that's great until the feds answer our questions. Until we see more footage of what took place that day. All of us need to stay on top of it because we all sense that something is very wrong.

1 (31m 46s):
We are not getting the truth. One more thing that I'd like to share with you guys. You will recall yesterday during the comment section we got a tip, a young woman that said that that doorbell footage was intentionally presented to the public only partially. And that the reality is that there was more footage which showed the person that they allege Tyler Robinson walking with a woman who they don't know who that is and that he changes clothes. So I'm not sure if there was more footage on the side of the house, there's another angle, but there is allegedly footage of Tyler changing clothes and he is with an unidentified woman, a woman.

1 (32m 27s):
And I will say is I have established connection with that individual and it's a solid lead and it's only going to get more interesting in terms of who is involved in that coverup locally, like a Utah person involved in that coverup, which is another piece of this puzzle that I find to be fascinating. I will have more for you guys next week as we continue this. I always wanna make sure that we give people an opportunity to respond and to answer what it is that we are putting out there and making sure that our reports are accurate. And I will have more for you on that next week. I do also wanna address people who are inundating me speaking about Erica Kirk. And I think the reason why this was catalyzed was because of a fundraising email and text messages went out and people found it to be distasteful and like fundraising off of his death.

1 (33m 17s):
Okay? First and foremost, the reason why I said, and I meant it genuinely was to pray for Erica a couple of days ago and I said she is stepping into a role as CEO and the chairman of a company, a company that got bigger than Charlie by everything that I'm understanding and just having been there, I saw it happening. And a company that she's going to have to learn in four seconds how this whole thing's wor it is a machine, okay? Those emails that you saw are tech that was not written by Erica Kirk, that will be an entire department. And these are emails when you fundraise. I've had fundraising emails go out with my face and my name on them, they are not authored by Erica Kirk.

1 (33m 57s):
And I want you guys to know that, right? I just think it's like, I don't know, it just feels so unfair to me to assign this, this the amount of pressure that is on her right now. She has not come out and said anything to me that makes her suspicious because I understand how that organ works and I understand how people, when they are motivated by money, how they don't even think about these things. It can be so gross. I mean I have gotten really gotten into arguments with people when I felt that they were using my face and representing things and I was getting pushback from the public. And I'm like, I would've never done this. I would've never made that decision and yet I'm gonna be the person that gets all the flack for the decision that you made. I've had those arguments. And so when I see this go out, irrespective of how you feel, you should know that those decisions are not made by Erica.

1 (34m 42s):
That that's what it means to step into a company of that size and that scale. Okay? Their focus is going to be something different. And she has had I think, a tremendous amount of grace in the speech that she gave, which I felt was very inspiring. And we should similarly have grace give her time to get her First and foremost the, the adjustment in her life. She's a mother First and foremost, right? This is what she was doing. She was a mom and Charlie was on the road. And these, this was, these were Charlie's concerns. You know, men carry the weight of the world on their shoulders and they were following that, this was a faithful couple. This is a woman who consulted a priest and prayed when she felt that somebody had put a hex on her husband.

1 (35m 27s):
And I just think everyone is being a little unfair by trying to assign so much ill will towards someone who hasn't done anything to warrant that. And I will, I would've been the first person if I felt that anything was there. I would've said something truly in every capacity. And of course I'm not in their marriage, but I know that Charlie was very happy with Erica and I know that Erica was a reason she was, you know, pushing Charlie as women do to really think through his ideas and think through what it was that he believed in one way or the other. And by, by and large, I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that I had this relationship that I had with Charlie that I had with Erica, of course, because neither he or I were married when we were hitting the road together.

1 (36m 11s):
But she made him happy. And I just want you guys to know that. And so when you're putting stuff out there, just imagine that you're in her shoes. Imagine the size and the scale of that company and imagine that on top of everything you've got people that are digging into every layer of your life and necessarily not necessarily getting everything right. I can't stop reading conspiracies about me and my husband. I've read that my husband is Jewish, I've read that my husband is a Freemason. I read that our marriage is fake and staged and I've read that I'm funded by Russia, I'm funded by Qatar, I'm funded by Andrew Tate 'cause Andrew Tate is also from the UK and my husband knew him before he met me, which means absolutely nothing. I mean, it's, it's it's, it never stops it. And to be thrown into fame I think is very difficult when you're not pursuing it yourself and to be thrown in such a horrific way, it just can't be fun.

1 (36m 59s):
So I'm just reminding us all to just have a little bit, a little bit of grace is all.

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1 (38m 22s):
All right you guys, what is on your mind? Let me get to your comments. Your what you guys are thinking about. Kelly Martini writes, Candace, you are the epitome of truth. You know, I'm the epitome of truth would be Jesus Christ. But I will say that following truth is it's an ugly business. It really is. And the vultures have absolutely come out. I mean it is just such a crazy thing to make me guilty of investigating Charlie's murder. Like it doesn't make any, why would you investigate this? Because everybody's lying and we're not going to allow it. How about that? How about we're just not going to allow, allow everyone to lie Curated journey writes, thank you Candace, for the work that you have put into telling us the truth. How do you deal with all these people that are trying to lie about the friendship that you have with Charlie and do everything that they can to turn the people against you through the media?

1 (39m 8s):
God bless you. I just know that it's a ticking time bomb right before they're all exposed. And I think a financial audit is interesting. I think there were a lot of pastors that were around Charlie who weren't exactly honest about whether or not they were financially motivated to say some certain things. You know, a lot of these organizations that are like Christian and Jews organizations, funds that are coming together have been interesting. You know, operation mocking pastor is a real thing. And I know that at the end of the day, my hands are clean, my hands are absolutely clean. And So I don't care about people that are lying because a lie always has to sprint, right?

1 (39m 51s):
A lie always has to sprint and it's 'cause it's fearful. It's very afraid. 'cause people only have to hear the truth once to know that it is the truth. They have to hear the lie over and over. They, it begs repetition a lie, but the truth doesn't care. And I am on the side of truth. So there is that. And also because my relationship with Charlie was, was real actually a shout out to Taylor Loren, I, I obviously didn't watch what everybody else was saying about Charlie after his assassination. 'cause I was absolutely wrecked. It was not a, it was a very tough week for me and I felt didn didn't even feel motivated to get outta bed. And, but Taylor said, she's like, why do I feel like Candace is the only one they said this on X.

1 (40m 33s):
I know If we have that tweet, I didn't ask you to pull it, but like she did say, why do I feel like Candace is the only one that actually cared about Charlie and she's the only tribute? Because I mean like it, that's the reality of politics. It's gross, it's disgusting, it's a disgusting business. And Charlie had a better stomach for it than I did. That's the reality. Yeah, it, she wrote Taylor Loren, it's wild that Candace is the only right wing wing figure that I've seen posting in a way where she seems genuinely devastated to lose Charlie as a friend. And it's because you can't fake it. And a lot of people are faking it right now. And I, it's difficult for me to process, which I have not that he is actually gone like that doesn't feel real to me yet, but I know I will get to that stage eventually. James Moron writes Greetings from across the pond in Ireland, Candace, and keep up the great work.

1 (41m 17s):
God bless. Thank you James. Renee writes, have you covered the Amazon listing from September 9th for a book about Charlie with all the details, which were pretty accurate of what happened on the 10th? I have a picture of a screenshot supposedly verified. Yeah, I think Amazon came out and said that it was a technical error because I guess you can I don adjust the dates. To be honest with you, I didn't look into it because there's a thousand ways that you could run with this and I wanted to keep the pressure on the feds and I wanted to keep the pressure on getting as much information as I could about what took place on that day. But I I, I know there are people that have made a lot of videos about that And so maybe I'll watch one of those. Brie Barrera writes, so glad that I caught you live today.

1 (41m 59s):
I work nights So I never wake up early enough. But I wanted to let you know, but I found you two years ago through Charlie Kirk and you changed my life. Keep doing what you're doing. I love you. Reality is, Charlie changed my life. He really did. And I can't think about being in politics without Charlie. So that's why it's been, it feels like I have to accept that a piece of my life died like years of my life died with him a little bit and he was like one of the only like two people in politics that I can even stand because he was a real, a straight shooter with me. Thistle writes, I wanted to ask your thoughts about the fact that quote unquote, notes on bullets have been everywhere while our representatives are signing the bombs, they drop on innocent people. Just a thought. Thank you. Yeah, it does.

1 (42m 39s):
It does seem to bear their signature like Nikki Haley signing bombs, people going over there sign bombs that are gonna be dropped in killing children. And so yeah, it's been a weird new thing that everyone's doing, which is strange and, and feels very forced and fake to me. Totally agree. Dave Matthews writes, what would you do if there was another video footage of someone else on the rooftop? Would you take it? Thank you for all that you do, praying for your family, praying for the Kirks. I, what do you mean by that? Would I take it? I want the truth. I don why that's not there's, if you're suggesting that you have the footage, please send it. You can send it to us tips@cannaowens.com. You're inundated guys. So please, if you can just, if you're sending us tip how hopefully it's related to this investigation tips like did have you seen this video or YouTube, whatever that's best reserved for like commenting on our Instagram and our social media pages.

1 (43m 33s):
We'll see it there. The tips line we wanna keep for actual tips related to this investigation, not because I'm not so grateful that you guys are writing all these emails, but our tips inbox is getting so full that it's taking us a lot of time to go through it. So yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to filter so we know where to look for, Hey, have you seen this video? Versus Hey, we have an actual tip related to this investigation. Ben Auten writes your interview with Charlie Kirk on Prager. You showed up on my YouTube algorithm. It's great to watch it again. Also, does anyone else find etchings on the bullet casings Conveniently found all of the occurrences of violent crimes lately. Quite suspicious indeed, Ben, indeed you and this will both agree that that is very suspect. It's, like I said, it's starting to feel like a, a government signature a little bit, right?

1 (44m 16s):
Miranda New writes The Anger and Hate towards Erica's Insane. She's a beacon of light in this dark world as are you Candace. I assume Erica also thinks all of this is weird too, or she would've stopped you by now. All love. That is correct. Erika has my number. Erika actually recently started following me. It was another thing that they were like, Canice doesn't even follow Charlie. Yeah. 'cause I unfollowed everyone, but I announced my book Blackout. I wanted to make it like a cool thing. I unfollowed everybody and then I didn't start relling people on all my social media pages. You will realize I'm like the only person you know that follows very few people because I realized that I was engaging in social media in a way where I was hearing everybody else's ideas as opposed to sharing my own. And So, I mean, it's just like the ridiculous angles that they've taken.

1 (44m 57s):
But anyways, yeah, I have always been very clear. And that's another thing if Erica was like, don't say anything or if she lied about anything publicly, if she was like, no, Charlie, like wasn't attending mass, and like I would be like, okay, this is a little weird. Why is she massaging? But she's not doing that. So I, I just feel that it's unfair and people that are not used to constantly being on stage and presenting, like Charlie was like char that he had the it factor, you know, Charlie, get up there and the room was alive and now we're judging the people that he loved in his life who don't, don't do that for a living. And I, I just really just feels to me like it's unfair. So I wanted to express that and just say that.

1 (45m 38s):
And yeah. Anyways, next week we'll not be on air tomorrow because last week was a rare Friday and I like to have my Fridays off. But next week we will continue in earnest again, if you have something pertaining to the investigation, you were there, you were a police officer, you're a federal, you are in the government, you're fed and you are watching this and you know that what I'm saying is true. Please email us tips at Candace Owens dot com. If you guys would like to support us in any capacity, always head to Candace Owens dot com, join the book club, learn about vaccines if you're a parent or by yourself, some CIA Merch so that we can be arrested by Laura Loomer and her tweets be reported by Laura Loomer.

1 (46m 19s):
Beyond that, you guys, thank you so much. Thank you guys for just being supportive in general. You really have helped me get through the past two weeks and we will not allow the real legacy of Charlie Kirk to die, nor will we allow them to rewrite history, nor will they, we allow them to rewrite present, which is this investigation. We'll see you next week.

9/24/25
BREAKING NEWS: FBI Pressuring Utah To Close The Charlie Kirk Case | Candace Ep 242

0 (0s):
All right you guys, it is Wednesday and I have a lot for you today because you're not gonna be surprised to hear that the FBI is F bing. That's what they do and that's what they want to happen with the Charlie Kirk case. Of course, this was inevitable. I gotta tell you all about that. Also, I wanna open up to you guys about this overwhelming sense of doom that came over me about 10 days prior to Charlie Kirk's assassination. The story's kind of unbelievable, but I think it's important to share, especially with the way that they're traveling here trying. The FBI is traveling, trying to shut this case down. And it is also somewhat related to another explosive story that I have for you today because, do you remember Thomas Matthew Crooks?

0 (45s):
Probably not because oddly the feds told us that, hey, don't even worry about that 20-year-old who got up on a rooftop and tried to assassinate President Donald Trump. Right? That story just got buried. Well, today we have some exclusive information about him, never before seen footage of Matthew Crooks. And it's going to be just the beginning of our coverage regarding what we know. So Welcome back to Candace. Okay, so let's start with the BREAKING NEWS.

0 (1m 25s):
I don't even know if it's considered BREAKING NEWS when it comes to the feds. Look, I don't think it's BREAKING NEWS. I think it's just the news. This is what they do. Well, I have it now on a very well placed authority authoritative source that the FBI is putting an absurd amount of pressure right now on the authorities in Utah and also the rest of the government in Utah to come out and to say that the Charlie Kirk case is closed, they want it over. They want Charlie's assassination to be officially ruled lone gunman. It was a lone gunman that did that.

0 (2m 6s):
Nobody else is involved. Now why would they, why would they want that? Right? What are they saying, at least to the authorities? Are they saying like, Hmm, this is the reason that I'm sure they're not coming out and being honest or, or saying something that might ring truer to us, the public, which would be them saying, well, we know who did this and we wanna protect those people. So close the case, but they're actually saying instead is essentially, if you don't close the case against Charlie Kirk and rule it alone gunman, then it might mess up our prosecution against Tyler Robinson. That feels a little bit to me like moral blackmail.

0 (2m 46s):
Hey man, I'm not, we're not hiding anything, but you know, we've got this guy, Tyler Robinson, if you don't close this case, then it might harm our chances of locking this guy up. Yeah, I'm sure. I am sure that they are being just moral. I'm sure they're telling the truth to the authorities. Now, I wanna remind you guys, we should take a look at their current case against Tyler Robinson to see if we should accept this narrative, because currently there is absolutely no video which shows Tyler Robinson firing the weapon or even taking aim at Charlie Kirk. In fact, the individual who filmed the footage of the shooter on the roof, the lone video that exists of the shooter on the roof, also told me that he doesn't think that Tyler Robinson is the guy.

0 (3m 38s):
So how's that gonna work for an eyewitness account? When he reported the shooter on the roof to Utah on the campus, he was clear that the person was wearing an entirely different outfit than the ones that they're currently trying to claim that Tyler wore on that day. Remember, Tyler was just supposed to be wearing a T-shirt and some jeans. He says, no, he was in tactical gear. The person that I saw was in tactical gear. Also, that eye witness told me that that gun doesn't even match what I saw. And like I said, this individual definitively has experience with guns.

0 (4m 19s):
He teaches people how to fire guns. So according to him and what he observed, if he's going to be brought into this court case that they're saying they want to, you know, they, they're gonna bring charges against Tyler, he's gonna testify and say, no, what? That doesn't look like the gun. That doesn't look like the person. So how's this going to work? Also, according to the individual that told me this, regarding the feds trying to push for this case closure, they also, the feds don't even have any footage that explains how exactly the rifle in particular got onto the roof. That stuns me. That's stunning information, right?

0 (4m 59s):
Because all we have is, well, in the indictment, he dropped onto the roof at 12:15 PM Tyler, Tyler Robinson just dropped onto the roof. I guess in our minds, we assumed on the basis of the picture that they released the sole picture or set of pictures from the same moment of him walking up the stairs. We assumed that he, like I said, stanky lagged it, the whole stanky leg all the way up onto the rooftop. That was our perception. But it turns out, according to my source, they don't know how the rifle got onto the roof. That's interesting. How, how are we bringing this to trial? Now, regarding the bullets, the source says that it was too fragmented to match Tyler's rifle.

0 (5m 42s):
So they don't have even the bullet. And let us not forget that Tyler himself has not confessed to anything. And that part also didn't make sense. He said he brought him in. Bill Ackman puts up a million dollars. Tyler's dad gets the sheriff friend to come over and they say he did it. And they, the police come and they bring him in. They bring Tyler Robinson in, but Tyler Robinson doesn't confess. So how did you arrest him? Does that make sense? How? How could you make an arrest if you didn't have a confession? You would have to have evidence. And the evidence can't be trust my dad, bro, you can't, if I just bring in a random person, if I say, oh look, Skylar just committed this crime, and Skylar says, no I didn't.

0 (6m 24s):
And he doesn't confess, the police can't just make an arrest. He can just arrest Skylar. Nothing is making sense at all. It has not made sense from the very beginning. Okay? And that's because the feds are involved and I believe the Feds know exactly what happened. In fact, I don't think it's a stretch of imagination when we examine history to assume that they maybe even had some foreknowledge. Not everybody, not everybody obviously, because some people are trying to get the information out and are trying to figure out what happened. But we know that there are people that are a part of that apparatus who are terrible human beings, who we do not want ruling over us, and yet they do.

0 (7m 5s):
So I'm just curious what exactly, how exactly they believe they are going to convict Tyler Robinson on this. Oh, you know what? It's probably the discord messages. I forgot. Silly me, the discord. I forgot. He was so explicit. How could we forget? Oh, Lance. Oh, Lance wherefore out thy Lance deny thy father and refuse thy name and without wilts nots, Lance the bullets me, my hand prints. It was me. It was me my love. I did everything. I carved it. Do you remember my love when I was carving the bullets? Yes, yes, exactly.

0 (7m 46s):
This time is when I did it. And these are the reasons. My maga daddy, my love thou wilt, not my love. Cool, cool story. Very cool story. Feds kind of feeling like Tyler's gonna get off 'cause they've got really nothing but prints. And from my sources, it's not the only set of prints that are on that gun. In fact, the only thing that I have heard that made sense, which did not come from our government, government did not come from the feds, not come from the Utah government, but rather from the people that are on the ground to believe that actually Tyler was just told to walk and drop off his gun at a neighboring house. That, that for some reason just feels like that might be honest.

0 (8m 26s):
And that was how he participated in this event. But we'll see, because I'm not going to let this go. So we'll see if the Feds tell us to just dismiss it as they always do. You know, rather relatedly something that I wanna tell you. Yesterday we had showed you a clip of Charlie discussing our friendship. Friendship and how he was feeling morally blackmailed over it. And in that same clip, he mentions a very fond memory that I have that he was there when I met my husband. And he says, it's a really fun story and it is a fun story. It's actually a totally fun, crazy story of how I met my husband because it was, I had something that came over me and that's the only way I can describe it.

0 (9m 6s):
And I get all of the conspiracies online when people were like, there's no way she, her and her husband got engaged after 18 days. That's exactly how it happened. Okay? I didn't know him. I never even saw his face 18 day into 18 days prior. And I'm with Charlie, we're hitting the ground running and I'm just like, I feel compelled that we must go to the uk. It was, when I say the most overpowering thing ever, I was like, Charlie, we gotta go to the uk, we gotta go to the uk, we should go to the uk, we should go to London. And he's like, man, why? Why do you wanna go to London? Like I don dunno, I just feel like we're supposed to be there. I feel like we've gotta be there for an event. And I did something that I had never done. I took Charlie, Charlie Kirk's credit card and I was like, I'm gonna find flights and just book it. And then you just figure out, maybe it means you're supposed to par start, you know, turning Point UK if there's energy there.

0 (9m 50s):
That was a part of his, his vision. He wanted a turning point to be global. And he had had people that were interested in the uk. And So I actually, I'm showing you this very old text message chain from that time between me and Charlie, where I even picked, I never booked flights, looked at flights, but I booked these flights and I was like, look, the flights are dirt cheap. Remember why I see the London 4 50, 4 $50 in coach or 1200 in first class? And he's like, wow, let's book it. All right. And we booked the flights and then suddenly I realized the reason that I had this overwhelming feeling to be there was because I was supposed to be my husband. And the only thing I can say is that I, it was an intuition. We, we describe it. That it had to have been God I had, we had just had no reason, no other reason to be there.

0 (10m 32s):
And then Charlie set up a speaking event with some people that had been interested. And sure enough we were there to help Turning Point UK get set up. Anyways, this overwhelming feeling had, I had never experienced something like that since until about a week before, or actually, yeah, 10 days before Charlie got assassinated. And so I'm gonna explain that to you because you guys who watch this podcast might have realized something that we took the show off air randomly for the first couple of days in September. So I'll describe to you exactly what happened. You know, it there at first was a elementary school shooting that happened at a Catholic school.

0 (11m 16s):
And I was just concerned in a way that it had, I had never felt so impacted. And I was going, something isn't right. Something is just not right. And I felt that there was some sort of an infiltration that was happening at schools. And I, the best way that I can describe it in really in a sentence is that I sensed that the danger wasn't stopping there and that more was coming and that I needed to take time, take a look at just the process of hiring people at the school that my children were going to attend. And I did just a cursory online search and some messages I found, which were not written by a teacher at the school, but someone who was adjacent to some teachers at the school gave me pause for concern.

0 (12m 0s):
In fact, explicitly what it was was a Polish underground symbol, like a, a Polish Communist underground symbol that nobody would've recognized outside of people who know what it meant. And I just sort of went, okay, that's weird. I kept looking online and strangely, I'm not kidding and I'm gonna show you these messages. I came across what looked to me like a bunch of people talking about bees. You are going, what? Like literally B bees in a way. That's the only way I can describe it to you was like, they were speaking about bees, but they weren't speaking about bees. It was very coded. And I'm going, am I going crazy or do you think that all these people are really actually quote unquote bee farmers or saying that they farm bees?

0 (12m 45s):
What is this lingo that I'm not understanding? Why do I feel like it's related to students? I didn't feel good about it at all, and I just sensed that we needed to get more involved to go to the school to ask about the process of hiring to see if they needed more security. They were kind of giving up me the, you know, the thing that teachers do now, when you ask any questions about what happens at the school, which is they make you think like, why do you wanna know? Like we just do whatever we wanna do. It's like, I don't know, my children are like five and four actually parents should, of course we need to be more involved. Like how did we get here that we feel like we're crazy for asking questions about the hiring practices at schools?

0 (13m 28s):
And the feeling just didn't go away. I, I can show you this actually, 'cause I was thinking, like I said to my husband, there is some weird underground, it's like I sense like imminent danger is coming and for some reason I feel like there is an underground that has emerged at schools and it's like related to beast. That's what I said. And I, and I messaged multiple people about this. My sister here are a couple of more text messages to other people. You can look at the timeframe here. This is eight 30, August 30th, this is September 1st. When we went off air September 2nd, we were off air. And I started talking about people that were discussing bees in a way that didn't make sense. I'm like, I don't know if this is drugs. I dunno what it's, but it's weird. And so in, in a sentence I just said, there's imminent danger coming. Okay? It is relating to a school.

0 (14m 10s):
I think it's a communist underground and I don't know why, but that has something to do with bees. Totally sensible thing to city your husband. Oh, and we need to hire more security. And we did. We hired more security that very weak. And I was just frantic about it. And we made the decision that we needed to homeschool immediately and started the process, pulled our kids out of homeschooling and starting to interview people. But it wasn't enough. Like despite hiring more security, despite taking my kids outta school, I still had a sense of dread. The Tuesday, Tuesday night, the night before Charlie got assassinated, I had book club and I felt like I needed to emphasize to people in book club that it was time to take their kids outta school.

0 (14m 51s):
Like, take your kids out of school. Something danger is happening right now. And I'm gonna show you a clip. Obviously this is all behind the paywall of what I said to people that are in the book club. Take a listen. I'm homeschooling my kids. I'm so excited. I'm like very excited. I'm embarking on this recent decision and it is just, I feel, I can't explain to you when my a weight got lifted off of my shoulder. 'cause I was like, I can't just speak about this. Like we have to do it and show people that it can be done. And I'm so glad that my sister was who did it first because I was like my, my sister. It was very difficult for her to do this. She's gotta wake up super early. But seeing her do it made me go. My older sister, I was like, what am I, what is wrong with me?

0 (15m 31s):
Of course I can do this. And again, this weight being lifted off of my shoulders of like, you don't get my kids this, this whole system, this whole matrix gotta send your kids to school so we can what indoctrinate them mentally. In some schools there's abuses that are happening. Like, and I just have to take the risk and give you my child, like my, my, my, my small child and then they're gonna gaslight me. This is what happened actually, I was like asking the te the, the school basic questions like, 'cause I was only gonna put them in like, you know, little daycare program, pre-K program. And like I was like, you know, ask questions like how do you hire people? And they were like, you don't get to ask those questions. What's wrong with you mom? Why are you so scared?

0 (16m 11s):
I'm like, okay, bye-bye. See you never, don't make me think that I'm weird for being a mom, okay? Don't think, don't, don't make me believe or try to sell to me this idea that we're sharing these kids. These are your students, these are my kids. And if you don't understand that, then they can't be your students. That's it. That was on September 9th. Okay? Then came September 10th, obviously Charlie lost his life. And a few days later I was told, and I, I sensed instantly that there was like a hive of people that were involved in this. I just knew it. And when it happened I just went, oh my goodness.

0 (16m 51s):
And my gut is telling me that this was the thing that, the dread that I sensed that was coming outta school and I had no idea I am at a flag person at all. And then someone told me, and I was astonished that Utah recently extraordinarily, you know, did modernized their bee flag. I had no idea that the Utah state flag is a hexagonal beehive, right? And I mean notice to me that it has always been the beehive state. So in 2024 they modernized their flag, but they've always been known as the beehive state. And to be clear, it's not because they make honey, it's not because they have a high presence of bees. In fact, in terms of making honey or bee related products, they rank number 24.

0 (17m 34s):
It's actually the beehive state. It's relates to the Mormon church, the Church of a Latter Day Saints, early Mormon pioneers founded that state and they liked the idea of a beehive working toward a common good. Now, if that sounds vaguely familiar or communist to you, the idea of Worker Bs. Yes, that's where it's from. So this sort of doom that I had about an underground happening, I was just like totally freaked out. It's this, it's a Soviet symbol. The idea of making everybody into a worker B. And whether you're on the left or the right, you should understand where the public school system comes from. Okay? It is shaped by Soviet ideology.

0 (18m 16s):
I tell people a must read book is inside the American education system by Thomas soul. It is not left or right. He's just telling you how it all came together. The decline, the deception, the dogmas, and how they are programming our children. You cannot unread that book after you read it because you realize there's no such thing as being too hawkish. They know how to get things in there and how to pull children away from their parents as it was dev designed in the Soviet system. Okay, kindergarten, even kindergarten. You're like, where does that word even come from? Well, it was, it was established by the communists that tried to overthrow Germany and failed in 1848. Margaret Church's, her family came here and those same communists wanted to make sure that they established kindergarten access to children.

0 (19m 5s):
They then fought to make sure that we federalize the education system. These are the same people that push to make it so that homeschooling is not a thing, right? Like I said, the very reason they wanted to establish public education is because it is essential for radical ideology. They understand something that I think that we have maybe forgotten, which is that children are the most precious resource. The reason for that is 'cause they are the future one way or another. Children are the future. Okay? After Charlie's assassination, that feeling still did not dissipate. Okay? I understood the imminent doom that I felt that was almost crippling was clearly related to that event.

0 (19m 45s):
But I just know that all of these random Lone Shooter narratives that are being intentionally what we're being told, that they're just lone shooters and then we don't really know anything else. I just feel it spiritually that these people are being programmed. And perhaps that is the reason why more often than not, they are being protected by our government. In other words, it is positively foolish for us to believe that the government just cannot tell us anything about these assassins. They wipe everything and they tell us nothing. Why would they do that? Yeah. And that guy, they're always working alone. There's no online history that we can reflect on.

0 (20m 26s):
What are you talking about? Which brings me to Thomas Matthew Crooks, because that's exactly what we were told or not told. When on July 13th, 2024, a 2020 year olds, Thomas Crooks climbs onto a roof and tries to assassinate President Donald Trump. Gratefully Donald Trump did not die, but tragically one of his supporters did. Okay? A 50-year-old firefighter named Corey Comparatory lost his life trying to save his children. And then we were told virtually nothing. In fact we were, and I'm laughing 'cause it's so absurd. We were told Iran did this. What? Because they were itching for war with Iran.

0 (21m 7s):
Like they're still itching for war with Iran. But like, that's what basically was a narrative that was established. They had some warnings that Iran was going to try to assassinate Trump. And were going, what? Well, guess what happened? Somebody reached out to me because I have been obviously leading the forefront in investigating these, this Lone Shooter as it pertains to Charlie Kirk. 'cause it's not a Lone Shooter, it's a hive. I feel it spiritually. And they said, look, actually, I had been able to scrape everything about Thomas Crooks before the feds got rid of everything. And it's shocking what you look, there is no way this person was not on the federal radar.

0 (21m 47s):
Now usually we go, was he on the left? Was he on the right? Because that's the bait. The bait is to make me as a conservative, hate you. If you were on the left and if you were on the left, the goal is to make you hate Candace because it allows them to operate in broad daylight. The reality of Thomas Crooks is going to be a story that we should get familiar with. He was at both, both on the left and on the right. He actually traded sides. He started actually as a Trump supporter. I'm gonna show you, and again to, to really impress upon you how much this person had to be on the federal radar. I have an 80 page document, which I'm thinking I'm just gonna drop on my website tomorrow after handing it over to legal of every, all the accounts that he made, all the statements that he made.

0 (22m 34s):
And he was at first very angry against left. Like I mean outwardly calling for the murder of people that are on the left. And there were videos that he was posting of himself shooting with no bullets in the gun in his bedroom. I'm gonna show you one of those videos that has since been scraped. Don't worry, we blurred the weapon. Just, you know, to keep things above bar here. Take a look. Now, if you're listening to this and you are on, Spotify is essentially, or on Apple, what's essentially happening here is he's just in his room and there's no bullets in it, but he's practicing firing a weapon.

0 (23m 26s):
And his online history, there's multiple videos that are like this, which I have his online history shows. He was extraordinarily violent. He was always calling for violence. And I, I can show you one of his comments that he made. This was a comment on a video Trump humiliated on national tv. And he wrote to someone, ha ha, that's funny because I always believed being patriotic was lining up a bunch of socialist Jews, like the ones that booed Trump and blasting their useless brains out with an ar. Well, to each his own. I mean, that's unbelievably violent. Again, another comment where he was commenting on a YouTube video. He wrote, I've noticed a lot of liars talking about the truth in this post.

0 (24m 7s):
Well, let me know. Let me tell you some truth. Everyone of the Trump hitting Democrats deserves to have their heads chopped off and put on stakes for the world to see what happens when you eff with America. So you go, okay, this guy was a Trump supporter then he does a radical transformation around 2020. And this had something to do with COVID. He got very angry at Trump and he was outwardly saying things where people were reporting them on YouTube being like, this guy is absolutely insane. He's a maniac. He's a maniac. He was a maniac who was obsessed with Trump one way or the other. And then he went very much obviously, which is the reason why he tried to assassinate him post COVID. I, he just starts going completely crazy and he's explicitly researching on Google the history of, of these assassinations.

0 (24m 54s):
I can show you his search history here leading up to this. He searched best places for a a mass shooting. Here are some of his other Google searches. I think we can just scroll down here. Yeah. Okay. And this has a timeline on this. Again, I'm going to probably just post this document because you can handle, you can handle the truth. He was fascinated with this stuff. He was fascinated. You can see here, guns versus protesters, Orlando shooting, shooting reaction, cars running over, protestors, firing AR 15 as fast as possible. Fertilizer bomb. How do you use a tourniquet? How to Molotov molo make a hol Molotov cocktail.

0 (25m 34s):
How to make Molotov cocktails, pardon me? Mixing gasoline with styrofoam, mass shooting Canada, Oklahoma bombing sniper in Dallas shooting. You want me to believe on the basis of what I have seen that this individual wasn't on federal radar? Just wasn't on federal radar. Guys, that is a nonsense. Okay? That is an absolute nonsense. And again, the other element of this is we're never gonna be told what therapists he was seeing. Okay? What? What His mom's walking in the room, he's practicing how to shoot. It's very clear what you can see in the background.

0 (26m 14s):
He's practicing shots. They want us to believe that this just happened by accident. Even though for years he was documenting, wanting to harm politicians and people that were on the left and people that were on the right, again, on the basis of everything, whether it was their race, their color, whether they were homosexual. There's something there for everyone. So what's happening here? Well, I can tell you my suspicion. I think that this is a program I do. I don't know. No, but I know, you know, I don't know. No, but I know because it is giving me the same ick that I had when I was looking through the period and learning the reality of what happened throughout the 1960s when MK Ultra, when that program was running.

0 (27m 1s):
And I have no reason to believe that that program was ever discontinued. And I believe that they find these candidates in schools. I really do. I think they find these candidates in schools. And So I wanted to express that to you, that we once again are having a predicament. And we can trace this straight from what they did to when JFK was assassinated, where the feds are obscuring, they're using journalists to obscure, they're putting pressure on government officials. They are lying to the public about everything. Except this time it's regarding Charlie Kirk, which means this time it's not gonna fly because I'm not going to allow it to. Let's take a pause here and we're gonna get to something that Megan Kelly shared on her show about a hex that was put on Charlie Kirk, which is important for us to discuss for a variety of reasons.

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All Right guys. Wanted to get to Jimmy Kimmel. He's back on air, I think. I guess he was, it was a little time out for Jimmy Kimmel. I was very shocked to see people on the right who were kind of cheering on his cancellation. And I'm not denying the logic of it going, this has happened to so many people on the right. So when it happens to you, boohoo, I get that. But also if we just keep playing ping pong, nobody wins. And actually, except for the government, and I think that's the part, that's the, the reason that this sport has been created, left versus right. And Jimmy Kimmel delivered a monologue and thank to people on the right, in his very Jim Jimmy Kim away. And I got a shout out for saying, Hey, you know, common sense, the government should not be getting involved when it comes to speech.

0 (30m 45s):
That's insane. We should, we cannot cheer that on. Take a listen to his monologue.

5 (30m 50s):
I want to thank the people who don't support my show and what I believe, but support my right to share those beliefs anyway.

6 (31m 1s):
Who,

5 (31m 1s):
Who I never would've imagined. Like Ben Shapiro, clay Travis, Candace Owens, Mitch McConnell, Rand Paul, even my old pal, Ted Cruz, who believe it or not, said something very beautiful on my behalf.

7 (31m 17s):
I hate what Jimmy Kimmel said, I am thrilled that he was fired.

5 (31m 23s):
Oh wait, no, not that the the other part,

7 (31m 26s):
But let me tell you, if the government gets in the business of saying what we and can't say, what you, the media have said, we're going to ban you from the airwaves. If you don't say what we like, that will end up bad for conservatives.

5 (31m 44s):
I don't think I've ever said this before, but Ted Cruz is right. He's

6 (31m 49s):
Absolutely right. This affects

5 (31m 52s):
All of us, including him. I mean, think about it. If Ted Cruz can't speak freely, then he can't cast spells on the Smurfs. Even though I, I don't agree with many of those people on most subjects. Some of the things they say even make me want to throw up, it takes courage for them to speak out against this administration. And they did and they deserve credit for it. And thank

0 (32m 16s):
Feeling is mutual. There are some things you say that make me want to throw up as as well, but it is important that we realize government overreach is government overreach. Doesn't matter who it's happening, other what under, whether it's Biden or whether it's Trump, it's wrong. Okay? And by the way, both sides have been guilty of government overreach. So less of us taking the bait on that. I also wanna say, I wanted to show you guys this clip of Megan Kelly. It's gone pretty viral. It's everywhere. Speaking about something that I did not know about, which is pertaining to a hex and a curse that Charlie and Erica, Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk were worried about that I, it's kinda a shocking, very shocking story. And I just wanna preempt this by saying that for those of you that don't understand that this is a spiritual war, that we are fighting, you might have been like me years ago and I refer to us as the Muggs.

0 (33m 5s):
Like of course there are, there are people who believe in all of this stuff and there are people that who put spells on people and they are meaningful, they follow numerology. And it's serious. That is serious. And you think that it's not because they have made our society so plastic and there's no substance anymore and we are so distracted. But these people who rule over us, okay? They know who they worship. They know they worship Luciferian. And So I was very alarmed that this had happened and I honestly had wished that Charlie had reached out to me even though they did end up consulting a Catholic priest. I didn't expect, I I, I wish I could have given them the the exact person, but take a listen to how Megan Kelly shares what happened, A curse that was put on Charlie just before he went out to UVU.

0 (33m 53s):
I

8 (33m 54s):
Learned when I was out in Arizona last week that two weeks before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, the far left website, Jezebel declared that it had a mission to cast bad luck or a curse on Charlie. They wanted to hurt him in some way. They declared quote, if the far right misogynist with a bad haircut wants to villainize independent women, Jezebel is more than happy to be the hag of his nightmares. And they went onto the website, Etsy. Yes, Etsy, to quote, cast a curse on him. Yes. This is actually a thing. Etsy, the website known for making arts and crafts on demand will happily cast a hex through its witches who you can hire on someone if you ask them to.

8 (34m 43s):
Erica and Charlie Kirk heard about these curses and that news genuinely rattled Erica in particular, she knew Christian teaching on this subject. She loved Charlie. Absolutely. And she was scared when she heard of the curses. Jezebel had called up so much so that she and Charlie contacted a friend who I believe she said was a Catholic priest, but definitely a friend, and asked him to come over and pray with them over Charlie the night before he was murdered. She eventually worked it through And so did Charlie that as she later told me, weapons will form but not prosper.

8 (35m 31s):
That Satan and those witches have no power.

0 (35m 36s):
So just to add a little color to the story, I think that the people who did this in what we've learned about those women as I think they were probably who hired the people that did the hiring were probably trying to be funny. People that don't believe in spiritual forces were probably just like l ol. It's like vice, it's like, you know, vice publication. Like, you know, I smoked a blind and you know, listened to the Beatles music backwards. Like it's like they don't take that stuff seriously. So they're trying to be like, haha, funny headline, right? And the person who wrote the article about it said, I'm not calling on Dark Forces to cause him harm. I just want him to wake up every morning with an inexplicable zi, right? So she's probably trying to be funny, to be fair, but contacted witches who are not trying to be funny.

0 (36m 17s):
That's the, that's the problem when people don't understand that this stuff is real, that you're saying to which, yeah, I'll pay for you. I'm, I'm going to, you know, reach out to you to pay for you to put a curse on Charlie. And that which did that, and it brought, obviously you can see it, it, they were distressed by this. They consulted a Catholic priest who I assume would've immediately conducted an exorcism that probably shouldn't have done in the Latin right. But I feel like that's just something that people should know because until something happens to you spiritually, you tend not to believe in these things. And like I said, that's a part of this. They very much know what religion, they follow the numbers numerology, it makes sense to them, the people that are in control of this world. And you should just be very cautious, very cautious of that stuff.

0 (37m 1s):
I kind of, a lot of times I kind of give this example, it's like they can sell us anything as reality. Like we are now in this culture of what CS Lewis refers to as scientism. As long as they say like it's science, it's not weird, then we don't realize that. No, I think these are spiritual forces. Like if a witch was like, ha ha, here's a potion, take it, it works. You'd be like, oh that's so crazy. I don't believe in witch potions. But like a doctor can create something and it makes you, and you're like, oh, of course. But this is like backed by science. It's like, okay, by any other name sort of a thing, you know what I mean? But this stuff is real and I'm, I'm glad that the end result thus far of how it has impacted society to watch Charlie be assassinated.

0 (37m 42s):
Even though we don't know who exactly was behind this, we know it was more than one person is that people are going back to church and that they had that instinct when they watched it. They suddenly realized, whoa, they, they got hit spiritually even if they hadn't been to church in years. I was getting comments. I hadn't been to church in 20 years and for some reason watching the death of Charlie Kirk made me know that I needed to go to church. I, that is at least one thing in this and there have been other things that has made me very happy. Anyways, I wanna get, make sure I have time for your comments because we do have book club tonight and I'm going to build upon what we're speaking over these last two weeks. This book we're reading is very important, the the Assault on truth. And so much of, you know, rereading this book is reminding me of what is happening with Charlie Kirk and how we're being lied to about everything and how evil the people are that are doing The Lying.

0 (38m 29s):
It's an important book 'cause you have to know what these people are capable of.

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Okay, what is on your mind? Let me scroll here. We have Sia who writes prayers up. Warwick Spiller writes, the name of the Mormon church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Okay, thank you. I I'm correcting that at different times. It says Mormon, other times it says Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. But in the founder's story online it says the Mormon Church. So thank you for correcting that. And you said don't divide. I wasn't trying, I genuinely wasn't trying to divide you. I just dunno. It was a genuinely a mistake. Lighthouse writes some feel that Erica is faking her emotions. I lost my 4-year-old son suddenly in April. Sometimes I felt so numb. It's our body protecting itself from extreme grief.

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I couldn't imagine having the world watch me during that time. The pain is unbearable. Yeah, I've seen that. I think we just need to be a lot more gracious. It's an unimaginable thing to go through and it means if we can't imagine it, then we, we have no idea how we would react. It's, nobody is supposed to, to be able to log online and see the person that they love being shot in the neck, the person that is the father of their children, being assassinated and murdered and going through those emotions and still having to get up and be a parent. And I imagine if it was me, I would, I would probably turn into a robot. I don't need, I mean, there's, I'm thinking about how this impacted me and I'm not his wife, he's not the father of my children. And I, I could barely even get outta bed.

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So I just, I can't imagine what she's going through. So I think that's, that's very fair for you to say that. And I appreciate you saying that. Oh, by the way, I didn't see the last part of your comment. Going back to the bee stuff you said the beehive represents a group that are working together for Christ. Thank you Warwick Spiller for providing that. Natalie writes tip, my sister's neighbor is the daughter of a lady who sent the video to police of Tyler Robinson walking down a neighborhood street. The media is leaving out the part, leaving out part of that video. It also shows him changing clothes and he's not alone. There is a woman with him. Okay, Natalie. Hi. Could you send that to me? Can you, can you just write, hi, it's me, Natalie, in the tips inbox So I can get that immediately.

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Please send that to tips at Candace Owens dot com. Natalie, please. I am begging you. He was with a woman. What? How is that possible? Well, we only got the Caldera engineering video, so that's very interesting. Please, please, please get me that video, Natalie tips@canisowens.com. Reagan writes, I'm a former teacher who quit halfway through your five. Gotta open my eyes to what the system is and it's abusive to explain this to former colleagues, I've gotta come with correct facts. What resources do you recommend? Well, I'd start with inside the American education system. I think that really does a, a, a really good job of illustrating what's been happening and why it's happening and what the ultimate goal is. And it's a terrifying read for parents.

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And we need to be, as I say, just as radical as they were when they established this system. Recovery recon rights is, is it not weird that within minutes, the FBI posted pics of the ammo with anti-ice from today and showed us pics of the windows with the holes in them referring to the shooting in the ice facility in Dallas. But we haven't seen anything from Charlie. Also, thoughts on the resign doctor? Okay, well, we can get into psychology. I, I have a lot of thoughts about that. The, if you're, if you're in the book club and we're talking about the psychoanalytic community, I think it probably follows the same story of a relationship that was really close and then broke off because Sigmund Freud held on to, I, I can't even really say that's why we have the book club.

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But you know how the psychoanalytic community was started? They were gaslighting people that were actually being raped. And then sometimes people that came up in that environment genuinely thought that they were being a part of, you know, psychoanalytics and thought it was real. And then the skills fell from their eyes and they realized, wait a second, you're protecting rapists. And those people were outcast. I think it could be that story with Carl. Our Vic writes, I truly admire you, not just for your courage, but for the way you investigate and uncovered truth that others ignore. You're the only voice I fully trust. Thank God for you. Thank you so much and thank God for you guys because you gave me the courage to do this truly with all the attacks that we have to endure from the mainstream media, committing ourselves to truth. And especially in a time like this, when you're being attacked, when you're actually someone that's in, like experiencing genuine grief and you've lost your friend and you see what they do, how they don't care, and how they lie about that person.

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It's a lot. But I trust in God, faith in, in his plan, his design and also having you guys backing me up makes all the difference. Brooke Rice, I love the story about you and your husband. My grandparents met and were engaged three days later. They were married 67 years, had seven kids, 24 grandkids, and as of today, 76 great grandkids. Yes, it happens. Okay. I, I don't know what to say to people. I, I read these conspiracy theories. I'm like, I can tell you that it just happened 18 days. That was it. We were engaged after 18 days, first time LA Lies and him, and now we have four kids and we are happily married. And I'm not saying everyone should get engaged after 18 days, but I am saying that we need to stop with the whole date, somebody for three years.

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You know, I think that's a little ridiculous. And that only is being, that's only due to in large part some of the more sinister motives of the feminist movement, which, we'll, we can get into another time when I release my next, my sophomore book, which is coming out later this year. All right, you guys, I, I gotta jump off here because I've got book club in a little bit. I'll see you.

9/23/25
Bearing False Witness: Who Made The Charlie Kirk Videos Go Viral? | Candace Ep 241


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All right you guys, happy Tuesday. Sorry we are running a few minutes late. It takes so much time to investigate. We are such a small team and we're constantly trying to make sure we're giving you guys the most accurate information. And you know, it suddenly occurred to me after last week that I should maybe go back and find all of the original videos that were going viral on social media on nine 10, you know, all the videos pertaining to the assassination, the people that were providing testimony as to what happened. And immediately we started to notice a pattern. We noticed that a lot of the eyewitnesses and the people that were sharing those videos weren't exactly random college students from UVU, but rather people that either had strong ties to the government or to turning point USA altogether.

0 (47s):
So what gives also later on we're gonna discuss Andrew Covet, the PR agent close friend Charlie Kirk who sat down with Alex Clark to answer questions pertaining to whether or not Charlie Kirk was converting to Catholicism and whether or not he was offered $150 million from Israel. Except I literally do not know who said either of those things, but we'll see how he responded. Anyway, Welcome back to Candace.

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A couple of things that I wanna say at the top to help focus some of these investigations that are going on. So many people that are sending us emails and I see a lot of the chatter that's happening. First and foremost, no, Charlie was not wearing an earpiece, that he was not wearing an earpiece. I saw some of that earlier footage and it looked like he was, and I was able to verify that actually what people think is an earpiece that's coming up is actually the necklace that he was wearing. I also want you guys to know that he was not wearing a bulletproof vest. I was able to verify that and there does seem to be a backstory there. Somebody that had reached out who had been providing vests for Charlie and then no longer was providing vests for him, we're looking into that, but I wanted you to know those two facts.

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All right, now jumping into what I wanted to discuss today, we thought we should go back and reexamine all of the witnesses, okay? The people who spoke out to the press in the immediate aftermath of the killing, obviously that's what brought us to Caldera Engineering, the man who owned a couple of houses on that block and we found out that Caldera engineering, a lot of the employees live on that block. And then of course, I wanna be clear, it doesn't make these people guilty of anything, but I thought it was interesting that I kept seeing this theme that none of these individuals were students of UVU. Like, I guess that's just coincidental. Just to go back, we had already discussed Tiffany Barker and that early morning GAM GMA interview, good Morning America interview that she did with her nieces.

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So I'm gonna show you that again to jog your memory because we have an update. Take a listen.

2 (3m 14s):
We're joined now by Tiffany Barker and her nieces l Steele and Mia Grant, who were all in the audience yesterday afternoon. Thank you for joining us this morning. I know it's been a difficult day for all of you right now. And Tiffany, let me begin with you. Just tell us what you remember about the scene yesterday.

4 (3m 32s):
It was horrific. There was one shot that rang out and everybody instantly looked around and then fell to the ground. People saw Charlie instantly get shot in the neck and everybody fell to the ground and then people started running and got run over and I was with my family. We had 16 of us there, so five adults and like 11 children. And we instantly got separated. We're trying to find everybody and we had amazing good Samaritans that grabbed kids. One took my niece and took her to her apartment. Somebody grabbed these two and my daughter and took them over to the tennis courts and stayed with them until I came.

4 (4m 12s):
It was a super awful tragedy and there were really good people that stood up and supported each other and it was actually really powerful to see that.

2 (4m 22s):
Alan May, I can't imagine how scared you must have been yesterday. What can you tell us about what you all remember? Al, you go first.

5 (4m 31s):
So I remember hearing this thing, I didn't, it was hard to like know what it was, but then I saw it and I saw blood everywhere and it hit his artery and then I just, we fell to, I fell to the ground, I covered my, my head with my hands and then I just started saying a prayer and then we all ran, we sprinted away and we ran into like we ran away to, and then we met at the tennis courts and I couldn't, and then we couldn't find anyone. It was just me, Mia, and then my other cousin Bella. And then we, and then we were calling everyone, we didn't know what to do and then we finally met up with them and it was just so scary.

2 (5m 19s):
I'm sure Mia,

3 (5m 22s):
I remember that we were like 15 feet away and I thought like the shot was like a firecracker or something. It just, it just didn't seem real. After that we went like behind where Charlie Kirk was and then we were meeting up at the tennis courts and trying to find everyone and get everyone together. And Charlie Kirk was such a good guy, I'm gonna miss him so much. I've always watched all of his videos and

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Yeah, I can't imagine what you all went through.

3 (5m 55s):
America's gonna miss Charlie Kirk.

2 (5m 57s):
Can't imagine what you went through yesterday. Thanks for sharing your stories this morning.

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Okay, so to update you and to remind you, I had mentioned that First and foremost, Tiffany Barker is a part of a very political family, a very connected family in the region. The internet sleuths just were on it, apparently there's a whole Reddit feed. And they were able to determine that not only is she connected to a a, a big political family that is high up in the LDS church, but she also forgot to mention, and maybe there wasn't time to mention, to be fair, that they knew Charlie, that the daughter had sung at Charlie Kirk's event. So it would've been something that I, I think I would've said. But again, sort of in the chaos, maybe in the next morning while the manhunt is going on and in this sort of short stint of speaking to Good Morning America, you didn't have time to give those details.

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Now many people were curious mainly as to why the children were so descriptive regarding the artery. And Tiffany herself made a response video and addressed that question and here is what she had to say.

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When we get in the car, we're stuck in the parking lot for like an hour and a half. My niece that was sitting right behind me in this car that filmed Charlie getting shot, she was filming him speaking and then she said, TIFF, I have it on video. And I said, gimme your phone. I don't want you to watch it. Gimme the phone. So I took her phone and the kids in the car with me because they were closer down by, my sister had seen it really close up and they saw how much Charlie bled and we're all trying to process that. So I have an hour and a half in a car with my nieces and my two daughters and I'm trying to help them through what we just saw. And they said, why did he bleed like that? And I said, there's an artery here.

6 (7m 41s):
Maybe they had an artery. I didn't know, we didn't know anything and we're trying to get information. And then I get one text come in and said, Glen Beck said he is stable. And I told the kids, you guys okay, he's okay. They're taking turns praying for him.

0 (7m 57s):
So I connected with her after she made this video and I wanted to specifically confirm and clarify two things. Again, not because I think her or her nieces had anything to do with the assassination, but because they were eyewitnesses and I First and foremost wanted to know why good Morning America reached out with them, it didn't seem to me that any of the videos she put out would have inspired a producer to reach out and say, Hey, can you be our eyewitness? Provide eyewitness testimony to what took place. And she intimated to me that actually it was a political connection. That was the reason it happened. Her sister ran as lieutenant governor alongside Phil Lehman and actually Good Morning America reached out to Phil Lehman and somehow that is how instead of her Philman or her sister, they ended up with her sister's children and her because they were at the event.

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Now, regarding her, obviously you heard her explanation for why they mentioned the artery. I wanted to see if they even recorded that footage of Charlie or if they were close enough to see that. And my answer to that would be no. On the basis of the footage that she gave me, she has not yet provided any footage that would suggest that her nieces saw that graphic or, or were able anything that was that descriptive. I think this might have been just a little bit of like political insertion, so to speak. Either way I will say that, and kids being anywhere where a shot is ringing out is going to be traumatizing to a child. And of course she's being honest that through discussion, she is the one that kind of gave them the idea regarding the artery. But then I decided to take a look or just including this, I was simultaneously taking a look at George Zinn.

0 (9m 38s):
Obviously I wanted to track down George Zinn because where was Decoy boy sitting? Where exactly was he arrested? And I was able to discover something that I found to be quite odd. George Zinn was arrested in the same area, almost in the exact spot where Charlie's SUV departs, which to me, if you think somebody is the killer, you probably wouldn't send 'em in the direction of someone that they just shot. So I wanted to sort of prod that narrative a little bit further. So first I want you guys, in case you don't understand the layout of this particular, if we're calling it a stadium that he was sitting amphitheater, that Charlie was sitting, there is a tent, okay?

0 (10m 21s):
And we're coming inward here. You can see that kind of half hexagon that's sitting there. Where that.is is where Charlie is sitting and you can see there's like a bridge walkway and Charlie has to walk underneath that to get to where his cars are. Okay, so in front of him is the audience in that half hexagon and yep, we're coming inward right there where you can see the mouse pointing right there is where the SUVs were waiting. The SUV that carried Charlie. So they just went backwards from where the tent was. Okay? And that underpass is right here. You can see a clear image of it and you can actually see now we're in that underpass and sitting, we are kind of where that SUV was.

0 (11m 5s):
And you can see the back of the tent that Charlie was in. We were able to determine that it was approximately 40 seconds from the time that the shot rang off to when the security brings Charlie into the waiting SUV. So they moved very quickly from shots to getting him into the SUV obviously trying to save his life. Then approximately just one minute and eight seconds later, George Zin is brought to that exact same territory. So Charlie departs about a minute and eight seconds later we've got George Zin and he is in handcuffs. And I'm being, when I say a minute and eight seconds, I'm building in extra seconds.

0 (11m 47s):
I'm trying to be as precise as possible. I am counting and I'm watching everything. But I found it again odd that George Zinn is arrested in the exact same area that they just took Charlie and it's fast, right? And it's especially fast because we then found footage of George Zinn after the shot rings out and we're gonna watch this. He's gonna, he's gonna get up and people are dispersing everywhere and he kind of calmly gets up and starts making his way down that stadium. You can see that here you, we have the light on him and his pants fall down by themselves. You can see that his pants did not like we were kind of under working under the assumption that his pants fell down because I don't know the, the police were pulling him, but that's actually incorrect.

0 (12m 34s):
They just fall down all by themselves and you can see that a young man comes by to try to assist him. Okay? So it's not, has nothing to do with the arrest. Now to be clear, when we see him sort of making his way down those stairs, we can actually approximate because we did, like I said, we're counting seconds that this happens earliest 30 seconds after the shot is fired, okay? And this clip that, that clip that you just watched is about 20 seconds long. So it's about a full 50 seconds. And we know that George Zinn is still sitting, is still standing right there.

0 (13m 16s):
Okay? So somehow George Zinn needs to get from where you just saw him, where his pants fall to handcuffs in the F-S-U-S-U-V zone in about 40 seconds flat again, that's very fast. We were able to find the footage of him walking down. He just walks down like you see him, he just is, is walking down the stairs and he has his hat in his hand and he starts waving and he's going toward the left side of the tent. If you are behind the tent looking forward, like if you're, if you have Charlie's view, he is then gonna kind of go down and he walks to the left side of the tent.

0 (13m 57s):
So I wanted to show you this like second timeline that I put together because this just lets you know what happened in the immediate after in the, in the immediate aftermath. Charlie, I mean Charlie Skylar, I'm not sure if I told you to pull that. Can you see that, that little timeline that we have? Yeah, no worries. I'll give you a couple of seconds. But we have, you know, Charlie gets shot 40 seconds later. Charlie's brought to the SUV 10 seconds after that is where George Zinn's pants fall down in the middle of the departing crowd. And then a minute and 15 seconds after that shot rings out, George Zinn's is waving his hat near the left side of the tent. And then at the minute 48 second mark, George Zinn is in handcuffs and he is being pulled near where Charlie's SUV has just departed.

0 (14m 46s):
It's very quick, okay? All of this takes place in under two minutes, not the vibe that I got. Obviously when you are behind your cell phone and you're getting all of these updates and you're trying to follow all the X accounts to see who has the newest information, I certainly was not under the impression that it all took, that all took place in just two minutes. So then that photo starts circulating online, you know, which photo I'm talking about? It's George Zinn and he's bent down and he is in handcuffs and that goes viral. And So I was wanted to get to the bottom of that who actually shared that photo of George Zinn in her in handcuffs. And I was able to determine that that was somebody who lived in Utah who advertises with Turning Point USA and when he did some press about it, he didn't mention that connection to Turning Point USA, but he for sure advertises with them or has advertised in the past.

0 (15m 40s):
Again, things are moving unbelievably quickly and I have now watched that footage from many angles. And there's another thing that happens in the immediate aftermath that stands out to me. There is what I assume must be a donor, a, a, a sponsor of some description or an employee of a donor slash sponsor, and he tries to get close to Charlie after the shots are fired, but not in like a rescue way. There was already like a team of men that fly in and then he gets there and I'm not sure what the intention is. I don't know if it's just like, obviously you're in, you're shocked, maybe you're trying to be helpful, who knows?

0 (16m 19s):
The security guard just kind of shoes him away immediately. And then what the guy does is he sort of just stands up and he takes out like walks to the side and takes out his cell phone. So I'm gonna show you that that's, he's right there in the blue shirt. And like he, I, I don, I sends a text as, as I'm watching the footage just goes on a little bit longer, like sends a text, takes a photo, not entirely clear what's being done there, but it just sort of stood out to me like in the middle of the chaos seeing that. And I would really like to know who that is because we had received a ton of messages from current employees at Turning Point that had mentioned that company.

0 (17m 1s):
He's wearing a shirt that says Wire or fi. And according to the sources at Turning Point it, it was a rather young company, meaning that the company hasn't been around for very long. That came out in a really big way in terms of sponsorship for this tour. And that's common sense given the fact that wire fi, you will notice in the clips of the event is the backdrop advertiser that's behind Charlie. So maybe this person came because it's his first event of the season and they are the major sponsors, like I said, judging by the placement and the fact that a wire donor or employee is there, we can draw the conclusion that they sponsored this very event.

0 (17m 44s):
And I'm interested in knowing who that is. So if you've got any answers for that, please let me me know because I would like to see what he took a picture of and to get his perspective on things. Certainly would like to identify who that individual is. I then decided to try to track down the origin of a video that actually no press has been done on. It was the video of the, I assumed it was a student and I think, you know, no, we shouldn't make assumptions who recorded the shooter on the roof. Remember that started going viral. You remember the footage and they're like, and there's a guy that's kind of speaking in the background. We can show you that footage right now. Let's take a look at that footage that we're referring to

7 (18m 26s):
Getting right up. Yeah, you think he'd already be in place? You would think that. So there's somebody on the roof right there just saying, he just ran from over. Where's my finger? Whoa, from over there ran in and eyes right there just saying,

0 (18m 49s):
Okay. So this footage proved very difficult to track down. And what I mean by that is it was very simple for me to find the account that made the, that published the video and made the video viral. And when I reached out to that individual, they were immediately responsive and I said, Hey, where did you get this? Where'd you get this footage from? And the individual said to me, A friend of a friend's like family member sent it. So I'm like, okay, you're telling me the chain is already twice removed? I said, do you know who took the video? And he said, no, I don't know who took the video. And when I asked the person who sent it to me to tell me who did, because I have all of these journalists, including yourself, reaching out to me trying to get to the bottom of it, he just stopped answering me.

0 (19m 35s):
I said, so your friend who sent you this video just stops answering you. And he then sends me a screenshot of a conversation that they're having on an app that I don't recognize, right? So we are prodding that and I'm, he has been responsive, So I'm sure he'll tell me what app this is. And sure enough, the person says, well, there were two people actually who took that footage, which obviously isn't possible, but there are two people that were involved in taking that footage and he sends him two numbers. And those two numbers were both Chicago based. And when I looked up who, you know, whose numbers those were, it looked to me like that was just kind of leading to nowhere.

0 (20m 17s):
Like why are these two Chicago based numbers? It was very weird and very sketchy. So then I have a guy who's on the ground in Utah and I asked him a student to start looking around, fishing around and seeing if he could figure out who took that photo again, operating under the assumption that this must have been a student that was walking by below center. And he comes back and he says, I, I have a number of an individual, this is allegedly the person who took the footage. And I said, do you know that person? Is this, is this a UVU student? He said, no. And I said, well, where'd you get this number from? And he says, well, on the day there was a guy named Aaron who was walking around and was checking on people and Aaron is the one that gave me this number.

0 (20m 59s):
You know, I don't know Aaron even, but like he's the person that gave it to me. So then he, I said, can I, can I have Aaron's number? He gives me Aaron's number and Aaron also has a Chicago number, so I'm getting from somebody on the ground and I'm getting from this person on Twitter that all of these Chicago numbers are involved and that's not making sense to me. And I then tried to text that number of the person who allegedly shot the footage. We didn't get a response until today. We finally got a response from that person, hop on the phone with him. He explains that it wasn't just him, it was one other person who he was walking with who saw this person run across.

0 (21m 39s):
Neither of them are students of UVU. One of them said he was a student at BYU, which is Brigham Young University. And he's like, well, I didn't take the footage but my friend took the footage and his friend does not have a, does not have a Chicago based number, So I am confused. And we ask if he'd be willing to send us the footage and to get us on the phone with the person who actually took the footage. I had a conversation with that individual after all of us running around. Hence the reason these episodes take so long to put together because you're calling people, you're waiting for responses. And what he said to me completely betrays the narrative of what the FBI has put out.

0 (22m 23s):
I am working to quadruple confirm exactly who this individual is. But he was a very much, and maybe this is a poor way of saying it, a straight shooter said, yes, you know, I have a training I, and I don't wanna give too many identifying details here, but this person himself has a lot of experience with guns and knows guns and you know, helps to train people in that sort of a capacity. And said that they observed that individual, the FBI saying, that the shooter dropped onto the roof at 1215, didn't make sense to him. He said earliest it was 1222 that the individual ran across, set up took the shots.

0 (23m 7s):
And I said, well, you must have been there because he then sends me the I, I wanted to see all of the metadata of when he took that footage. And it, the metadata begins at 1222 and goes into 1223 the very minute that Charlie gets shot. And he says, yeah, I saw the shots. I had just stopped recording about 20 seconds before the shot rang out. And he said that he told them a description of what the shooter looked like, and it was not the description that the entire world received. Less than 24 hours later of this person, Tyler Robinson wearing jeans. I said, was he wearing jeans? He said, no, actually this person was dressed in tactical gear and he was wearing a face mask.

0 (23m 54s):
And he said, according to him, and like I said, he has a lot of experience with guns that this person looked to him like a foreign agent. I don't, I know If he's wearing all black, how he got that. But he said there's no, he was very certain that this person was skilled, knew exactly what he was doing, and was highly trained, like a highly trained assassin, so to speak. Okay? He then says something else, as soon as George Z got arrested and that started circling, he ran to someone on campus and said, this is the wrong person. I observed this person with my eyes, you have the complete wrong description. The person you're looking for is wearing tactical gear and is obviously young because I watched him sprint back after taking the shot.

0 (24m 35s):
I saw this with my own two eyes and for whatever reason that never made its way out that we can see of a description of a person wearing tactical gear. We're kind of left with this idea that he was wearing the now infamous veterans shirt with the American flag on it and some jeans. So he also said something that we had not heard, which is that he knows guns and the gun that the FBI found was not the gun that he saw that the gun that he saw was smaller. And I'm going to read you directly a text message that he sent me, again, protecting his identity. He said, watching the video of the impact, hearing the sharp crack instead of a big hunting rifles boom and seeing what looked like a shorter rifle platform, albeit with the absence of the shape of a standard 30 round magazine, the assassin may have used a 10 or 20 round magazine only expecting to shoot once or twice.

0 (25m 35s):
I would guess that he was shot with a hordy v max or similar lightweight 2 23 bullet designed for very rapid expansion. Of course, I don't have access to any autopsy reports like you might, but if they found small shards of copper rather than one large copper coated lead slug, that's the gun and bullet I would expect was used. So I wanted to share that because I know that a part of this entire thing was our upset at kind of being taken for a ride by the FBI. It makes no sense to me that they wouldn't share those details immediately while this manhunt was taking place.

0 (26m 16s):
We got every other name and basically every other description and were told nothing like what this person who says that he was an eye witness, he was the eyewitness to this and that, he went right it into all this information. Why wouldn't you share the eyewitness report that you received that completely counters the narrative? And I would say, again, assuming this guy's story checks out, and it seems to me that it did, and he sent us the data and we looked at the metadata that he was the person who took that video. It doesn't make sense to me. It literally makes no sense to me that they would obfuscate these details when they're speaking to the public.

0 (26m 57s):
So yeah, like I said, we are exploring every lead here and I just found that to be quite stunning. I don't know what to make of all of this. I guess what we make every single episode is the fact that they're just lying to us about everything, about literally everything. Anyways, you guys, I I wanna get to some of the responses and answers that were given by Andrew Colette, who is the PR agent for Turning Point USA. He sat down with Alex Clark and addressed some, some of the things that are have been going viral, particularly as it claim, as it pertains to taking down the footage in the minutes following the shooting, having somebody on their team take down that footage.

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0 (29m 59s):
All right, so Andrew Vet, obviously he's been a topic of discussion, he did the Charlie Show with him And so he sat next to Charlie throughout all of that. They were very close. He's also the PR agent for Turning Point USA and he's also the one that issued the statement, therefore about what is now being termed the other magic bullet and ma magic bullet being the first one, JFK. It kind of seems like when the government might be involved, you know, bullets tend to have magical properties. Anyways, I've said yesterday his job is pretty tough and it's, it's made even tougher by the fact that he, if he's told to say something, he has to say it. That's just how it works in PR and, and I'm sure there are lawyers involved as well.

0 (30m 42s):
He went onto the Alex Clark podcast now it was kind of billed, I think people were expecting, but actually Alex Clark never did say that, that Erica Kirk was going to be the one to answer questions pertaining to Charlie and to clear up some rumors about his personal life. She teased that you know, that you were gonna get unfiltered answers to burning questions like quote, was Charlie converting to Catholicism? Again, I have no idea who said he was converting to Catholicism. I feel like it's like intentionally misrepresenting what was said. Also, she was gonna answer, did he take $150 million from Israel? Again, not something that we said on this show.

0 (31m 22s):
And again, like I told you, they're gonna address the SD cards now. I was very clear and I am still kind of shocked by the reaction from the evangelical community. It was totally just, it didn't make any sense to me. A, because Erica's a cradle Catholic. I said Charlie was attending the Mass because he was, I said Charlie was playing praying the rosary because he was, and I said that as a Catholic of course I was egging him to take the next step. Who wouldn't? Of course you want, if you, whatever your faith is, if you're evangelical and someone's thinking about converting, you're gonna want to egg them on that. That totally makes sense. And it wasn't said in an evil capacity. I said the joke that I said to Charlie, take the next step.

0 (32m 3s):
You're too smart to be a Protestant. That's a descriptor of our relationship. We were like brother and sister, it's said in humor and in jest. Hey guys, I was Protestant like five minutes ago. So I felt like people were looking for reasons to be offended and wanted somebody to come out and slap that down and say no, he wasn't hitting the mass and you know, kind of caging this like it was a war for Charlie. It's like, no, I ne he, he never took the first step in converting, but I think going to the mass and praying the rosary, obviously it's gonna get Catholics excited. Anyways, let's start with that Andrew's response to the Catholic question. Take a listen.

8 (32m 42s):
Was he becoming Catholic?

9 (32m 43s):
No, but he really loved Catholic mass. He loved the ritual of it. He loved the beauty of old Catholic churches and the stained glass. And him

8 (32m 57s):
And Erica would go sometimes.

9 (32m 59s):
Yeah, well, Erica's a cradle Catholic, but she ended up kind of like me. I grew up Catholic in first communion and went to Catholic high school, but then I ended up becoming a Christian in college through a Protestant church, through a non-denominational kind of more experie Catholic art.

0 (33m 14s):
Christian

9 (33m 14s):
Experience is actually a Presbyterian then it was kind of non, non non-denominational. And, and I think Erica kind of follows that same path. She and I share that

8 (33m 22s):
Also by the way. I, I just wanna draw attention to, she's posted a photo of her and Charlie and the kids in Mass before and somebody in the comment section said, oh, are you guys converting? And she said, no, we just like attendings sometimes. Yeah. So she herself had said no

9 (33m 34s):
Publicly. Yeah. And I think Charlie, one of, one of the things Charlie really hated worshiping in like a, a gym, you know, or a, some, some sort of kind of blank space that, that you just turn into church. I don't, there's no problem. He didn't have a problem with the, the act of that. He just didn't prefer it. And he loved, again, the ritual, the ancient, you know, feel of a Catholic mass and the fact that everybody around the world that was worshiping is a is Catholic. He loved, he loved that. So he had some really big theological hangups with that. You can go check the videos out him debating with Michael Knowles, you know, and good fun. I mean they were dear friends but they loved kind of debating the whole Protestant versus Catholic thing.

0 (34m 19s):
So I didn't lie about anything like, and yeah, he was attending mass And so usually if you are ritualistically attending mass, meaning he liked the ritual, I'm not sure what that means. Like I don't, I don't understand what we're doing. It's, it just feels weird. And to say he converted to Christian Catholics are Christian. So, you know, he said like I, I think Andrew said I converted to Christian Christianity. I went from being a cradle Catholic and yeah, there was no question that Erica and Charlie were attending the Mass. And that's what I said. And I said that he was praying the rosary and there's no dispute there. I never said he started converting to Catholicism.

0 (34m 59s):
I said that the Catholics were kind of thinking, you know, take the next step Charlie, take the next step. And I don't think it was just architectural for him far be it for me to speak on behalf of whether he was just attending because he liked the architecture. I think it was a little deeper than that. And I agree that he did have some hangups, but that's kind of when you make that thing of like he didn't really like having church in a gym. That's a step, right? So for me that was a step where I was going, okay, like I, I, I want something that feels a little bit deeper. It's a journey. Nobody was trying to start a Catholic versus Protestant war. I just shared something about, you know, my final conversations with him and a lot of the conversations were about faith towards the end.

0 (35m 45s):
Yeah, that's it. Not a big deal. Anyways, then they get to the second portion of the, something that I didn't say, nobody said the number one 50 million or I didn't say the number. Tucker didn't, I don't know where the one 50 million number came from, if I'm being honest. I said 150 million was what Bebe spent on Operation Mocking Pastor. Now the way they're gonna answer this question about whether or not Charlie was offered money, Israeli money is interesting. Take a listen.

8 (36m 11s):
Was Charlie offered $150 million from Israel?

9 (36m 14s):
As far as I know, no,

8 (36m 16s):
I had never heard anything like that. Everyone I've asked has said the same thing. Yeah. Oh,

9 (36m 19s):
And, and by the way, just for what it's worth, it doesn't matter the amount that would've been coming down, we would've said no because,

8 (36m 24s):
And there's evidence of that

9 (36m 25s):
Is true because Turning Point does not, Charlie would not accept foreign money. Exactly. We only took American money. Yeah. There was money sent to us like PR practically in multiple instances where they're trying to cram it down our, our bank account and we said no, we canceled like money wires and things because

8 (36m 41s):
No foreign money and also no handouts from the government during the pandemic. He refused to do mass layoffs that everybody else in the country was doing. Said no to the, to the whatever that check was. What was that that they were handing out? Stimulus check.

9 (36m 54s):
Yeah, the PPE loans. Right? I always get PPP and PPE mixed up, but yeah. Yeah.

8 (36m 58s):
But it was a big, it was a good amount of money that at the time was Pp we could have used. Yeah. He put out a company statement saying, you know, this was tempting for sure, but we're gonna say no. Yeah. I mean he was very principled in that way. He

9 (37m 10s):
Was extremely principled, especially on foreign money. I have ins I remember moments we'd be at like an event, you know, and some foreign people would come up and like demand a meeting or try and get a meeting with Charlie and Charlie would look at me and go deal with them, get rid of them. Like just, I don't wanna talk to him.

0 (37m 30s):
Okay. So there is this thing called Farra and every country if they're going to influence people, if you're Qatar, if you're Iran and you want to lobby on behalf of those countries, you, you have to be registered under Farra. So we know where that money is going into if you have literally stands for foreign agents registering, right? If you have foreign agents in America that are working on your behalf, we would be able to see that. But there's this magic carve out for Israel, right? So when you say like, was he going to take Israeli money? It's kind of a working around it, right? Do I think that in the turning point accounts it would've said BB net and Yahoo wrote, you know, wants this money to go to probably not.

0 (38m 13s):
Do I know for a fact that there are foreign agents working on behalf of Israel that gave money to turning point? Yes, they do. The question is, whether it's Bill Blackman, whether it's Bob Schulman, whether it's a ton of the donors who write big checks and are pressuring him to say stuff was a large sum of money offered to Charlie Kirk to take turning point to the next level. Not that it wasn't a very high level to the next level in or with the guarantee that he would represent their current perspectives and the things that were going on. And did Charlie Kirk refuse that? I maintained what I said that that happened and Charlie turned the money down.

0 (38m 56s):
I hope that makes sense. I do wanna add onto that, that I do have concerns and maybe concerns is not the right word. I have rather hopes that Erica, who is taking on this huge step of being the chairman and the CEO, that she has someone in her corner that she really trusts. And what I mean is that I am not equipped to be the CEO of my little tiny company. Okay? And I've realized that I it how much it involves for to understand accounting, to understand how people can create LLCs, a spinoff of LLCs, how money can be hidden and pushed into different directions and into vehicles that you don't understand takes a person that is sort of trained to have that business mind.

0 (39m 44s):
I am grateful that my husband has that business mind. I just don't actually even care to have that business mind more than anything else on that. I couldn't learn it. But I know with a company at that size, Erica is going to really need to have someone who is very much in her corner. I I i, it breaks my heart, but she doesn't have Charlie, like Charlie would be exactly the kind of person, like it's the, it's the beauty of a partnership and they had a beautiful partnership. But I worry, I really do worry. And I just wanted to express that openly to you guys. I'm, I'm concerned about that for some reason. And I guess the best thing to do is just ask everybody to, to pray for Erica, you know, pray that she has the clarity to understand and have people around her who are being honest with her.

0 (40m 26s):
'cause I would not wanna be in her position right now. I would not wanna be in her position because where there is money, it money naturally breeds snakes in the garden and it's very difficult to keep the grass cutt low when, when the yard is that expansive, so to speak. Anyways, they then address the SD cards and here is what Andrew had to say about the Turning Point affiliate employee, somebody adjacent to Turning Point who removed the SD cards from the camera that was behind Charlie in the immediate aftermath of the shooting. Take a listen.

8 (41m 5s):
Why did our team start taking down cameras immediately? Was it just in shock and just thinking like, this is what we do and just not thinking it's a crime scene.

9 (41m 13s):
I think massive shock. I I think there's been some stories about the SD cards or whatever that was because even in the shock there was an understanding that the proximity of those cameras were a gonna be evidence and they wanted to make sure they didn't get stolen outta the cameras, but b they didn't want anybody to run in. I mean, there was those videos of the, the kid running and grabbing the hats. Hats, yeah. So there was an understanding. I mean I talked to the team on that and they said, because we know people can be evil. Yeah. And they grabbed the SD cards so that nobody could get that, but so that law enforcement could get it. Did I answer your Maha question sufficiently?

9 (41m 54s):
Yeah. Okay. He loved Maha, well he loved Maha moms too.

0 (42m 1s):
I think I would've probably pushed back and asked, okay, but now that, you know, the feds have kind of been fumbling the ball just a little bit, a lot of it maybe just release everything and let, let the slews get on it and solve this thing. And that's kind of what I want. I want them to be more passionate about getting to the bottom of things a little bit. Am I maybe being selfish by thinking that if I was close to him as Andrew Covet every day on the show, I would be like more fired up about all the things that are going wrong. And again, I appreciate that they also have to then turn this next page and they still have donors, they still have the same donors that were making financial threats against Charlie and blackmailing him in his own words.

0 (42m 49s):
By the way, he said that he felt morally blackmailed by them be if he didn't, if he had disagreements and they were trying to control who he could speak to and who he could be friends with. And actually, By the way, we have a clip of Alex and Andrew speaking about that moral blackmail. Take a listen.

9 (43m 7s):
There's this great clip when we were in Myrtle Beach and he got asked if, you know, from somebody in the audience if he was going to, you know, debate Candace or you know, disavow Tucker and Tucker. And Charlie's answer I thought was amazing. I remember he came off stage, he was like, do you like that one? And I was like, he would always ask that for reassurance. Yeah, yeah. He always, he always loved like, did you see that? Did you really listen? Yeah. Do I look good? Was that

10 (43m 32s):
A good clip? You think that'll go viral?

9 (43m 34s):
Yeah. And I remember saying like, yeah, I thought it was amazing. It was morally so crystal clear. And he basically said, I don't appreciate being morally blackmailed. And you know, and every time people would say that to him, he would dig his heels in. It is like, well maybe Tucker's gonna give two speeches now to invest.

0 (43m 51s):
And that is the truth. We told you, he said the same thing about when he was in the Hamptons, that he was feeling like he was morally blackmailed. He was telling people that he wanted, he was digging his heels in further and saying, I'm gonna bring Candace back. You know, you guys kind of bullied this ending. And by the way, that clip he's speaking about, I actually just saw it, it's from August. So the month before he lost his life. And here's Charlie in his own words about how he was feeling.

11 (44m 20s):
How is your relationship with Candace Owens? No,

12 (44m 22s):
She's a great friend. You know, she's, look, I don't agree with everything Candace says, but you know what I don't do? I don't stop being friends with people just because people morally blackmail me. I don't do that. And you shouldn't either. I look, I have different views on, on things as Candace. I have different views on Israel than Candace. I have different views on a lot of geopolitics. But honestly, I traveled the country with Candace. I went to her wedding, I saw her meet her husband. I went to Israel with Candace, which is a fun story, I'll tell you at some point. But what I don't like, 'cause when people demand you must stop being friends with somebody, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a left wing tactic. Don't do that. I'm not saying you do that, but other people do that. We should never resort to that. In fact, if you believe what I with, I believe, shouldn't you want me to be friends with people that don't agree with us?

12 (45m 4s):
Shouldn't you want me to also be a tool of influence? And So I, I think the world of Candace, she's a great mother. She certainly has very, very fun opinions at times. And she's a great talent. She says a lot of stuff that sometimes I don't agree with. But that's what makes the, our relationship and our friendship interesting. My advice to all of you, you might not like somebody, but never tell somebody like me to stop being friends with somebody on an interpersonal level just because of disagreement. It's bad. It's what the left does. And we should rise about as conservatives. Thank you so much. Thank you.

0 (45m 36s):
Charlie was a very loyal friend. And I'm gonna continue to be a loyal friend to Charlie. I just, I can't stand it. I cannot stand to see the lies that are being told, the people that are intentionally taking things that I say out of context. People that were trying to pretend that Charlie and I weren't friends. It is maddening, but I know that God never gives any person more than they can handle. And I can handle it and I am handling it. And I want to get to the bottom of what was going on because I know he was under a tremendous amount of pressure. And like I said, I am hopeful that Erica will speak out more thoroughly. I know she's got so much to worry about right now. I mean chairman, CEO and still has to be a mother. Pray for her. Just pray for her.

0 (46m 16s):
'cause it's, it is a huge burden to have. And she'll get through it. She'll get through it because she has faith in the Lord. I also wanna get to this story because I wanna tell you guys we are winning in a very big way A lot. I think the waking up, the awakening that's happening right now, left and right coming together. And I do wanna shout out my lefties here because I felt like I was one of the only people on the right who was anti-vax before it was cool. Like I didn't, none of my kids were vaccinated and people thought it was wacky. But before I got there, the lefty moms left stream moms were actually the ones that were like very on it with like, what did these products? And yeah, I, that was like a weird place I didn't kind of fit in, in conservative land being like vocally anti-vax and took a huge risk in doing our shot in the dark series that's available on our website.

0 (47m 1s):
Think it's the most important series for any parent to watch. Whether you decide to do vaccines or not do vaccines. Please be educated, get educated about each vaccine. You'll be shocked when you learn the history of them, how they came together. Maybe not so shocked post COVID, but you will, I think be very shocked at how much they lie and delude. And we have all of this fear-based reaction to, in large part accepting what is poison. And so Trump coming out and making a statement and calling this stuff poison and putting out a list of things that don't need to happen. I'm like, wow, is he watching a shot in the dark? Has Trump signed up to Candace Owens dot com? Is he watching? Is he wearing a CIA hat and watching? I think so. And here's the statement that Trump made.

13 (47m 43s):
We want no mercury in the vaccine. We want no aluminum in the vaccine. The MMRI think should be taken separately. This is based on what I feel the mumps, measles and, and it all, the three should be taken separately. And it seems to be that when you mix 'em, there could be a problem. So there's no downside in taking them separately. In fact, they think it's better. So let it be separate. The chicken pox is already separate because when that got mixed in, I guess they made it four for a while, it really was bad.

13 (48m 23s):
So they make chicken pox individually, they're okay. When you mix 'em, something maybe happens. So there's no downside in doing it. It's not like, oh, if you do it bad things, no, it's only good si And it may not have that much of an impact, but it may have a big impact. So let those be taken separately. And then hepatitis B is sexually transmitted. There's no reason to give a baby that's almost just born hepatitis B. So I would say wait till the baby is 12 years old and formed and take hepatitis B.

13 (49m 5s):
And I think if you do those things, it's gonna be a whole different, it's gonna be a revolution in a positive sense in the country.

0 (49m 14s):
I wanna say this, the reason that government is coming out and saying this, if you have not been following the news, parents are pulling their kids out of school. I I really, if you wanna talk about a true turning point, and I said this a few episodes ago, I hope that what happens is that the world wakes up to the fact that the evil is taking place in the, in the classroom. The reason why they are coming out and admitting some of these things is because they're fearful that they're going to lose. And I'm talking about the evil doers in this world, the psychopaths that have been poisoning us for generations. The people that have made America fat, the people that are putting Monsanto, they hate you, they hate me. For them, this is a religion, okay? And they wish to poison our offspring, their bodies and their minds.

0 (49m 56s):
I wanna be very clear, both the bodies and the minds of your children are what they want. That is the one resource that they wish to own. It is, it is our offspring. They poison our minds. That's why they want you to either abort your offspring if you have your offspring, they want them to be fat addicted to drugs and filled with, with, with pharmaceuticals and vaccines. That's the reality. And we have to say that. We have to clear that boldly because now they want our speech. 'cause people are waking up. But what you're seeing Trump say is a reaction to the amount of moms that are pulling their kids out of the public school system. And I wanna be clear, not just public, private, okay? We began the process two weeks ago, three weeks ago of taking our kids out and realizing that we have to be radical because these psychopaths that rule the world are radical.

0 (50m 41s):
And if you want to take ownership and actually invest in a better future, we have to be in control of exactly what sort of an education our children are receiving, okay? And everything that is wrong in America, and that is wrong in this world is because we gave the government domain over our children. If you wanna be a radical, get your kids out of these schools. You can figure it out. That's what I wanna say to you guys. You can figure it out. They make you think you can't. We are in their matrix. Let's get outta the psychopathic matrix. So I'm excited because that is really a, it's a sign of the times. It's, it means parents are fighting and we're winning and the government is on notice. And now they're like, Hey, what if we la up? Not one inch, not our kids.

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All right, you guys, let's get into some of your comments. What is on your mind? What else should I be looking at? John Heel writes, wow, thank you so much for that donation, John. The question I have is why now from an L-G-B-T-Q person, Charlie has remained consistent there. It just makes no sense. His public views on the genocide and Netanyahu, however are the things that changed before his assassination. Yeah, I never accepted the fed slop. That's what I call it. Just fed slap. The whole message is, like I said, MAGA my dad's extra MAGA that's supposed to make people that are on the left go, oh my gosh. See, it's because of MAGA dad. It's like so ridiculous. And then on the right, you're supposed to go trans. It's a trans person.

0 (54m 18s):
We've talked about this and dah, dah, dah. And like I just knew spiritually as soon as I found out that Charlie got hit, that this was bigger than that. I just knew. And I maintain that. And I think now everyone who maybe we're going to accept the Fed slop now appreciates that everything they're telling us makes entirely no sense. And they're lying like they're lying about a lot. And there's only one reason to lie. It's because you have something to hide. So I say just be transparent. I don't trust people that don't just release and speak about everything. If they're being deemed suspicious, like transparency and honesty, it makes everything easier. That's why, like I said, I have no qualms about anything that I've said on the show because I don't lie.

0 (54m 59s):
There's no benefit. What do you get? What's the upside of lying about something? And so, yeah, I think they are finding out and we have remained very committed to getting to the bottom of this. Geneve writes, thank you for fighting so hard for that precious human being. Charlie Kirk, he was, he was amazing. I mean, I, I could say a thousand times there truly would not be me without Charlie. And I know that I held his head up during tough times. You know when you are climbing and fighting through politics, that, that early phase and you're unknown. You go through a lot of really tough times and you're tired. And similarly, he held my head up during a lot of tough times and like I said, reading the messages of me. Yeah, while we were sick, tired, we just, we just always made it work.

0 (55m 39s):
And he built that company. Charlie built that company. And I, I don't know why, but it just sickens me to hear any lies or misrepresentations. It just makes me so angry. But I know that that's something that I have to deal with. My choice emotion, I guess that's my, my vice is I'm, I always have to pull myself back consciously from wanting vengeance. And I don't want vengeance right now. I just want Christ. Christ is king because Christ is truth. And I want the truth about the truth about what happened. And we're not gonna get at that moment. Miriam writes, British Muslim here, love the work you're doing. And I so stand by the point that this is good versus evil slaves versus the elites.

0 (56m 21s):
Yes, you are amazing and I keep you and your family in my prayers. Thank you for praying for us. Truly the, the prayers work they are working and I needed them a lot last week. I feel better this week. Which is one thing I feel more focused in this in in many ways. And it, like I said, it arrived to me when Eric, something that I really needed to hear when Erica said that it was quick, that was eating me up inside. Like not knowing that answer. Previously temp rights. Rights. They didn't kill Charlie. Only his physical form. Of course, Charlie lives on with the Lord our God in heaven forever and evermore. Yeah, we, we know that and it, but it doesn't.

0 (57m 1s):
You just miss, you just miss the person. You know, that's what I haven't accepted yet is that Charlie Kirk is actually gone from this earth. Like that just makes me really sad. It just makes me really sad. And sometimes the sadness, like I said, just turns into anger. And I know that that will kind of, it'll, it will change with time. I know that you're never a year on however you feel a year, year on it will be better. And So I hold onto that. Carl writes, my wife and I love your show gang, gang, thanks for always asking questions. You've opened a lot of people's eyes up to the obvious that lying that is going on around us. That is the point of this. I did an interview earlier with a journalist and she kind of said, what do you think you know, podcasting, getting big.

0 (57m 44s):
What does it signify? It signifies that we don't believe the establishment anymore and the establishment seems to be growing more radical and they wanna control speech as if that's gonna make us believe them more. It's a nonsense, a terrible idea. Mary Kelly to love you Candace, you are my Joan of Arc prayers for you and your family. Flame of love rosaries. Thank you so much for that. Chris writes, do we know who paid for the crime scene demolition? The pavers that were so quickly put down? Normally universities don't have expendable cash. Our rosaries are with you in prayer and mass. Thank you so much, John 1223. He ends that with We Love You. And that says that's from Michelle. Maybe it's Michelle and Chris. I don't know if that's another path that we could pursue.

0 (58m 25s):
I feel like I thought it was the feds who did that. I could be incorrect. I may a feeling is not a fact. So I will explore that. That's a good question. Mc writes, there is a call on the police scanner after Charlie got shot saying they were looking for someone wearing jeans, a black shirt, a black mask, and a black vest carrying a long rifle. I heard that I need to go over that scanner. And then they took that scanner when they realized that 3000 people had suddenly tuned in. They decided to privatize everything. But that is true, which is why we naturally have to ask the question, why did the public never hear that description? If you only had one eyewitness testimony as to what that person was, was wearing, and we know that you have clear footage obviously of tons of clear footage, why didn't you release it?

0 (59m 13s):
Was it because we were gonna see somebody in tactical gear that looked foreign or we were gonna be able to identify the person further and realize that it wasn't Tyler Robinson? I maintain that Tyler Robinson is one piece of this and a lot more people are involved and I don't have to maintain that anymore by myself because Cash Patel has signified that that is so in his long message that we spoke about yesterday, his long tweet that we spoke about, where he sort of cops to the fact that nothing they're saying at all makes any sense. Milana writes, hi Candace, I wait for your live every day and dread the weekends. What curriculum do you recommend if I were to homeschool my kids? Okay, so we are first doing a trial curriculum for the first time next week.

0 (59m 55s):
So I will let you know we're kind of editing it and making it our own. Using a classical mixed in with Montessori approach because of the age of my children and obviously working in our faith, starting with a morning prayer and trying to say, okay, what, what can we teach them? Because I have found that my son really loves mass, the portions of mass where he knows what's going on. So I'm like, well, we need to do more of that. And obviously we go to the Latin mass, which makes it a bit trickier for him. But I'm like, well, why not? Can they learn a Latin prayer? So I, I wanted to get involved because I'm still a young Catholic student in many ways and teach them that 'cause it would be, you know, also an opportunity for me to learn as if I was a preschooler.

0 (1h 0m 37s):
So we are still working on that and I will definitively share all that information publicly. 'cause I wanna inspire moms to take their kids out of schools. All of them. I want you, if you're listening and you're on the fence and you're like, I, I know spiritually I shouldn't be sending them there. There is a communist underground in this school. What they want your kids to do is to do drugs. They want to get them addicted to pornography and screens and the effort is to turn them into slaves. Take your kids out of all the schools. That would be my advice. Lastly, lover of light rights, thank you for all that you do. I know this is a serious time, But don't forget to share some of those funny personal stories. Like your daughter forgetting her makeup. Love you Candace. Yeah, she is. That one's got quite the imagination.

0 (1h 1m 19s):
My daughter, she, my favorite thing that kids do at this age is the filibuster. If you think congressmen are good, you gotta try to get a toddler to sleep and try to leave their room and the things that they come up with. And recently she told me that her hair hurts and I said, sweetie, I don't think, I don't think that's a thing. And then she just sort of went, oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, we'll move on from that. Anyways. Yeah, it is another thing that always gets you through really tough times obviously is you just be around children. They are, they are such a light. They really are such a light in this world. And I want everyone to have kids and I want 'em to have lots of them because I know the government doesn't want us to have any. Yeah, they want to make our tribes smaller because they wanna roll over us.

0 (1h 2m 1s):
And anyways, we'll have more for you tomorrow. Thank you guys so much. We'll see you then.

9/22/25
Erika Kirk Forgives. The Feds Forget... | Candace Ep 240


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1 (29s):
All right, you guys. Happy Monday. Erika Kirk, man, that she really is just the moment. The speech that she gave everybody was just wowed by her. I felt my energy personally, like last night going into that. I was effectively like soaring in the air above the convention center, like a dragon above waiting for Erica to just be like fire. And I was just gonna come down and swoop in out of nowhere. All the politicians, all the fake people, everyone was just gonna be in that moment. Toast. But she didn't call for war. Erica did not call for war. She, in fact, she did the exact opposite, which is what was so stunning. It was unbelievable the forgiveness that she granted, the strength that it took for her to call for that forgiveness.

1 (1m 13s):
It's just unmatched. And it really made a difference. And I was being serious when I tweeted that. I think it was the most consequential speech in American history, a message that everyone needed to hear, including myself, a message of complete submission to Christ. And by the way, later on, we're also going to discuss another kind of submission to Christ, which is submitting yourself to truth. Kash Patel has now come out and issued a statement fully capitulating to the public. The public insistence that they're lying to us. They are so clearly lying to us about what happened on the day that Charlie Kirk lost his life. Nothing they've told us thus far makes any sense. And somehow it's only getting worse.

1 (1m 53s):
So welcome back. Let's jump right into this. I have to say, any woman that can get on stage and meaningfully say that they forgive the person who killed their husband that quickly, you are truly a better person than me because I, I've just been so angry And so angry. And yet she was able to through tears and obviously you could tell how difficult that moment was for her, but she arrived at forgiveness and she did it in front of the entire world.

1 (2m 38s):
And I think that every single person should watch that speech. Truly. They should watch that speech. They should watch Tucker Carlson's speech. I don't think even showing you clips of it. I'm gonna show you one could do it justice. You should watch it in its entirety, the emotion, the message of it. And you can obviously see why Charlie fell in love with her. Right? I remember meeting Erica. We were at, Charlie and I were in New York for something one another, and he was falling for her hard, but he wanted to play it cool. He wanted to play it cool. So he's like, come meet her at Del Frisco's in New York City. And I came there and she was just lovely. She was genuinely such a nice person. And I was like, Charlie, just go for it. Just go for it. And he did go for it. And last night, I really do think that the entire world needed to hear her message, what you took from it, how you could apply it to your life is up to you.

1 (3m 26s):
But specifically the part that she shared that provided me with so much peace, and I needed to hear it truly was when she explained that Charlie did not suffer. Because that, thinking about that is I just, I really shed so many tears over it just thinking that he suffered even for a moment, it was my favorite part of her speech. So I'm gonna play that right now.

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One moment, Charlie was doing what he loved, arguing and debating on campus,

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Fighting for the gospel and truth

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In front of a big crowd. And then he blinked.

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He blinked

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And saw his savior in paradise and all the heavenly mysteries were revealed to him.

1 (4m 33s):
I mean that it's just beautiful. And to really think about that, that he just blinked and then he was with the Lord. And it is just a fact that, I mean, Charlie just loved the Lord. It was constantly, like I told you, going through the conversations and how much he would just say, I need to pray about it. I need to pray about it. I need to pray about it. Wanting to marry Erica, first thing he said, which I think I showed you guys last week and Erica's correct, it is important to remember that message of forgiveness that we have within ourselves. And it sometimes feels very hard to do that, but we do. We are called upon to forgive people, to forgive our enemies, even in moments that it seems impossible or extraordinary to do so. But it is also important. It's not really a but, but I just, I wanna assert that it is also important to remember that what Christ is, as I said at the top of this show, is truth, right?

1 (5m 21s):
Christ is truth. And we are not getting the truth right now of what happened to Charlie Kirk on nine 10. And to be very clear, I am going to need it. I demand it. In fact, I'm now currently working on a minute by minute timeline, which I will have for you guys later this week of what exactly happened in the second and minutes following Charlie getting shot. I need to know, I need to follow bodies. I've already been able to, as I asked over the weekend, locate George Zinn in the crowd. It seems a bit suspicious to me how far he was. And then suddenly they take him through a pathway. I mean, that's him right there.

1 (6m 1s):
Thank you to the person that sent this picture. But then I, I find him on video and I'm trying to understand how he made it down the pathway and was taken through to the same area that they had just taken Charlie in the car. I have a lot of questions and each and every one of them will be answered by the end of this investigation. And I also wanna put it to you this way. So much more has come to light that I have not yet presented. I am working with other journalists, different aspects, asking them, Hey, you look into this, I'm gonna look into that. And the first thing that I, I think I should make abundantly clear is I am relieved that Erika Kirk is at the head of turning point USA because just like I alluded to last week, and which I will double down on now, I believe that people within that company betrayed Charlie.

1 (6m 52s):
Okay? That's just what I believe right now. And I want to make sure that I have these facts entirely on my side. Before I tell you guys more, I will say, if you are a rat on a ship, you should probably flee. Now I recommend it anyways, you guys, on Friday we did an episode. I wanna be clear, I didn't think that that episode was going to have the reaction that it did, but I am grateful we were unpacking the footage that was going viral of the guy that was taking down the camera, which, which was directly behind Charlie's head, a mere approximate four minutes after Charlie was shot.

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Everybody thought that it was very suspicious. I recognized the individual and reached out, had a conversation, saw the footage, and made the promise that I was not going to share it. Although I said to you, I encouraged them to share it. I believe that the reason everybody is a conspiracy theorist is because people don't share truth, right? O once you share everything, there's no room for conspiracy. And when I was sharing what I saw, I was doing so because I wa I was just thinking that, you know, this could help. Like this can obviously remove people from their conspiracies. And then it kind of occurred to me that what I shared was a bigger deal than I had imagined by saying that I didn't see any blood.

1 (8m 17s):
And that is a fact. I did not see any blood. In fact, the only blood that I did see at all, I'm talking about blood on the back, was on Charlie's hand, on Charlie's left hand, which as many people have been saying, means that the blood moved forward. We don't need to get into all of the gore. But what I didn't expect thereafter was for the turning point USA spokesperson, Andrew Covet, to issue this statement as people were asking questions like, Hey, how is that possible? How was there nothing in the back if this is the gun that was used? Andrew Vet tweeted this over the weekend. I wanna address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie.

1 (9m 0s):
I'm usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize that this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn't an exit wound is probably another miracle. And I want people to know, I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital. He said the bullet quote absolutely should have gone through, which is very, very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I've seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would've taken a moose or two down an elk, et cetera. End quote. And then, now this is Andrew, but it didn't go through.

1 (9m 43s):
Charlie's body stopped it. I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff, students and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent. And he replied, it was an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed his bone, referring to Charlie was so healthy and the density was so, so impressive that he's like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through it. Likely would've killed those standing behind him too. In the end, the coroner did find the bullet just beneath the skin. Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him. Remarkable and miraculous end statement. Now, first I wanna say this because people were attacking Andrew Covet immediately.

1 (10m 27s):
I want to say that it is good to remember that this is Andrew Vet's literal job, okay? He is a PR agent. He runs a PR company and his job is to respond to online chatter and online questions. And sometimes it may not even be what you want to say. In fact, it should never actually, if you're gonna get your job, be necessarily what you want to say. He also was very close to Charlie. So I would imagine that he's under a tremendous amount of pressure. The company is moving into a different direction. These are, we are still just over a week after Charlie lost his life and he has to be the messenger who is directing that message.

1 (11m 8s):
We don't know. But his job can't be easy at this moment, okay? If I say to my PR agent, I want you to make this statement, he works for the company. My, my PR person just has to make a statement, okay? So I think I would like to just respond to what is being said objectively rather than to attack Andrew vet's character. That aside the statement objectively feels to me like the manipulation of a Christian audience, right? They know Charlie's audience is Christian and therefore what they're selling to us is we, you should believe you're a believer, right? As a Christian, you believe in miracles, right?

1 (11m 49s):
Like you believe in Christ and the, the miracles that Jesus performed, right? Well then you should just believe this. There's something about that that I don't like, I don't like that I don't just, this was a miracle and that should just be the end. And no more questions should be asked. Yes, the conservative base is filled with Christians, but also the conservative base is filled with a lot of hunters, okay? People that hunt and they know weapons and they know how weapons work and they know how weapons don't work. And this particular statement to me does not pass the sniff test. Now again, when I share that information, I had assumed they were going to say the angle went through this.

1 (12m 34s):
I, I did not imagine they were just going to say that it was a miracle. Alex Jones, he immediately took to X live. This began trending, the statement began trending and he jumped onto an X onto X. And he responded to that statement saying this, take a listen.

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The spokesperson for T-P-U-S-A just posted two hours ago that they talked to the coroner and that Charlie Kirk was shot with 30 odd six in the left side of his neck of the crown artery him, and that he's a man of steel. And that the bones in his neck that are like chicken bones stopped a bullet that travels 2,500 feet a second out of the barrel at 200 yards depending on the grain of, of the cartridge. And the rest of it probably hit him at 1900 feet per second.

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I've shot hogs at 500 yards, 30 odd six, right to the side. Tiny hole blows a four inch hole out to the side, we're talking through two feet of a hog. Boom, hit him in the head brain and pull the balls up. They just said he got shot with 30 odd sex and that it didn't go through.

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1 (14m 31s):
Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot to process. And here's the thing, if you were going to bring me to the argument that this truly was a miracle, it probably would not be in the midst of a circumstance where the feds are lying, right? That that is like not now, right? 'cause it could be a miracle also that Tyler Robinson decided to take a break at Dairy Queen and issue some texts that sound like they were written in 1822 and tell every single, it could just be a miracle, right? For the feds and, and go through every single detail of exactly how he planned it, why he planned it, including his MAGA dad who's been extra MAGA lately that he doesn't actually lived with.

1 (15m 17s):
And nobody knows why. The dad is extra maga late lately and explaining where to find the weapon and, and just a miracle that he happened to leave this letter that has since been disappeared. But they, you know, he took a picture, his lover took a picture of it. It could just all be one big federal miracle. But I'm not inclined to believe that at this moment. Okay? I'm not inclined to believe any of this at this moment. And so we press on, okay? And because Alex and many other people and hunters and conservatives were going, yeah, no, I mean people were even posting videos of them shooting to show what that damage would be like.

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Kash Patel then made an extraordinary move and I would say I would refer to this as a capitulation to online sleuths. He tweeted this, he wrote as the director of the FBII am committed to ensuring the investigation into Charlie Kirk's. S assassination is thorough and exhaustive, pursuing every lead to its conclusion. The full weight of America's law enforcement agencies are actively following the evidence that has emerged, but our efforts extend beyond initial findings. We are examining every facet of this assassination. We are meticulously investigating theories and questions, including the location from where the shot was taken, the possibility of accomplices, the text message, confession and related conversations, discord chats, the angle of the shot and bullet impact, how the weapon was transported.

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Hand gestures observed as potential signals near Charlie at the time of his assassination and visitors to the alleged shooter's residents in the hours and the days leading up to September 10th, 2025. Some details are known today, while others are still being pursued to ensure every possibility is considered. Our primary focus is to complete this investigation and deliver justice to protect the integrity of the investigation in subsequent prosecution. We cannot release every piece of information that we have to the public right now. We will ensure every question is addressed at the appropriate moment regarding specific details such as questions about the plane that allegedly turned off its transponder after departing from an airport near the assassination site.

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We can share updates when answers are confirmed after interviews with the pilot and consultation with the FAA. We determined the transponder was not turned off in complete flight data in rural areas caused the apparent gap. The entire FBI mourns the loss of Charlie Kirk. We will not rest until justice is served in our investigation into the assassination will continue until every question is answered. Okay? So first thing that I can very quickly debunk is when he says that they looked into the transponder thing and yeah, we checked it out and actually they just lost service. Okay? That disputes what the plane owner themselves, he identified himself Derek Maxfield and issued a, a long statement on Instagram where he said that they got permission to, you know, turn off services, which are transponder services and they got that permission from the air traffic controller.

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So it can't be both, it can't be, no, it never happened. They just lost service and Derek Maxfield saying no, we had communication with the A TC, which is air traffic control. And what we did followed guidelines. So that's already a problem. Secondly, saying that you're not going to release information because you wanna protect the integrity of the investigation while also releasing those ridiculous text messages that looked like somebody was having fun on TikTok and making, you know, a ridiculous skit. I don't feel like the investigation has much integrity or the feds in general have any integrity after you guys gas lit us about Jeffrey Epstein.

1 (19m 15s):
Okay? So if you want us to, or if you want to restore credibility to the feds, I would allow the mommy sleuths to take over. That's my opinion. I had get in touch and allow the internet to do what the internet does because now you're answering everything that we brought up, not me, we, because I am a, it is because of the entire world paying attention, sending tips. I'm grateful to God that I have a platform to be able to shove that information and to encourage it. But this is, this is just coming from regular people around the world and now you guys are, it feels like playing defense because you have not been playing offense. So yeah, that would be my free advice that's not going to be listened to.

1 (19m 59s):
But while I have your attention, I do have a few more questions that could be answered or maybe some leads that you guys could be exploring, if you will, because once we began learning about that house next door that's been vacant and is owned by UVU and once we began looking into the witnesses and finding a, a common last name and looking into Caldera engineering as we did last week, again, not implying that they did anything wrong, just telling you factually that that witness whose footage ended up in the hands of TMZ runs an engineering company that is, has a presence worldwide and they specialize in making these valves.

1 (20m 45s):
I started thinking once people told me that valves historically have a connection to the government and the deep state about how important those valves were to warfare. Because if you just wanna shut down someone's pipe pipeline, let's say you wanna shut off water or you want to shut off gasoline, yeah, it makes sense why the government would wanna be controlling pipelines and valves. But anyways, I started to ask myself, oh well is does anybody look into whether or not there's anything under Charlie Kirk when he was shot, right? Because if we aren't accepting the narrative that that particular gun at that distance did no, didn't pass through and yet for whatever reason the fed scrambled to repave that area.

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Maybe as some people have speculated, he was shot from a closer distance. I started wondering was there an access point to any valves? Were there any pipelines that could have been under Charlie? And as it turns out, I looked at some old pictures of where he was sitting and there was a massive pipeline that was almost exactly behind where Charlie was sitting. Here's that that maybe it's a water pipeline, I don't know, but there it is under the flag. And to your right, I went into my tips line and I saw that somebody had messaged me about this. More than one person has messaged me about this. They're like, Hey, yeah, there's like a whole underground thing there. And to your right you're observing those two little boxes. And they told me that that was a, a trapped door.

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Now, I'm not implying someone, you know, popped up and shot Charlie, but that's a closeup of that area. I'm just implying that there's an entire underground there. And I remember when I looked at the footage, I felt like it was coming up, I don't know anything about ballistics, I'm not an expert, but if there was a hatch door nearby, then we can assume, as we should always assume, with colleges, obviously stadiums, there's always an underground path. So I'm wondering if the federal government has explored the possibility that somebody could have been under Charlie and done that while everyone's looking around and thinking that a shot went off from here.

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If that was just maybe like decoy number two and actually Charlie was shot from beneath him, which then could maybe explain why there was no exit wound. Again, I'm theorizing because I have a right to, I have a right to think and that is interesting to me. Where do, where does it go where, where do the tunnels underneath UVU lead to, right? That's an interesting question. Maybe everyone's looking up when we should be looking below, right? Maybe we should be looking below if there is this interest in pipelines. And I saw that actually where he was sitting. There's a whole irrigation system that's managed by the university. And so there's definitively stuff beneath Charlie.

1 (23m 44s):
Again, I don't know anything about ballistics, but I've been very clear that we'll be exploring every lead until we get a proper answer for what happened. And I think that that would probably be an interesting one for the feds to explore because within 48 hours, I mean, was it 48 hours, Skylar, they decided to instead pave that area. Repave it. Do we have footage of that? Here we go. Yeah, no, they kind of did the opposite here. They, they paved it and I feel like that's was a little soon. So I don't know if, if things can be unpaid, I'm sure they can.

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But maybe exploring a tunnel network would be a good start and I will leave it at that before we get into the absurd I, I didn't think it get, it could be more absurd than last week in the manners that I have been attacked. But over the weekend somebody reported me to the FBI and the ccia and I'm not going to prison alone. I'm taking all of you guys first.

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Okay, the attacks against me from APAC citizens or Zionists are now bordering on the hysterical I I mean last week was insane. I got to the point where I just went, I just shrugged. I just, Kanye shrugged. I'm like, okay, I don't know what to say but this is just so funny. I had to share it. I have been meaningfully reported to the FBI and the CIA and I wanna be very clear, you guys are all complicit. Just this weekend, this is real. A real live tweet came from Laura Loomer, our resident Psycho. She tweeted this, she's been attacking me nonstop as part of her grift to monetize the murder of her quote unquote best friend Charlie Kirk.

1 (28m 4s):
Candace Owens is selling a CIA line of merchandise that is called the Candace Intelligence Agency, which rips off the CIA name and logo. It is a federal felony to use the CIA seal without license. She then cites the code and calls, reads it, sends a quote from it, rather pulls it and then says You are likely breaking the law with your CIA Merch Candace. The CIA can technically sue to get Candace to stop using their logo. It's really disrespectful to Charlie Kirk and the CIA and then she ccs and tags the director of the CIA now as everybody who watches this show knows we've been selling that Merch since before Charlie got assassinated.

1 (28m 49s):
So we just continued our show with the Merch that we already sold for our show. Obviously our parody off of the CIA, which is perfectly legal obviously was related to the fact that we're always investigating things. So don't let the truth get into your way when you're spearing somebody. But the audacity to actually tag the director of the CIA and ask us to go to prison or to get into trouble is just, I think it really highlights they're, they're insane. It's it, it is just insanity. It is reaching new levels. I love the guy who then tweeted under her. This was so good. He just said, look at Amazon committing all of these quote unquote federal felonies.

1 (29m 33s):
And then he says F Israel first. Laura Loomer as just a little side note and that he shows all the t-shirts on Amazon because like obviously you can buy yourself an FBI costume for a Halloween if you'd like to, but that wasn't enough because last year, I mean last week was that insane. Like they just tried to wipe away years of my life by pretending completely fictionalized that Charlie and I had a breakup, right? Eric Bowling did this. He said I even, I don't know if if he was even sober on that program 'cause he said he hadn't seen me. This is Eric Bowling since 2015. He interviewed me in 2020. So that was weird. But they were clearly the call went out to just make up something that never happened, never happened.

1 (30m 15s):
I never had a falling out with Charlie Kirk. And so this guy, awesome Jew who I heard was also in the Hamptons with Bill Ackman and that group of people who went out there, he then tries to cleverly release a text message between Charlie Kirk and an unknown, an unknown individual text message has no date. It has no time. And I'm gonna tell you why that is and I'm gonna tell you exactly when that text message had to have occurred. But him releasing this tweet spectacularly backfired. The goal of course was to prove that Charlie and Candace had a falling out. Look at this message. Charlie's talking trash about Candace, except he's not at all. Instead, what the message did is that it proved exactly what I was saying, that donors and Zionists were attempting to control his speech.

1 (31m 2s):
My speech and who he platformed. So these are the text messages that he shared and he wrote exclusive. A close friend of Charlie Kirk shared these messages. I'm gonna guess it's either Seth Dylan or Josh Hammer. It could could not be, but I'm just putting that out there because of the style of the messages. And he says he was never wavering on Israel and they are active. He was actively pushing back on Candace Owens as false narrative. Now he, these are the messages he shared. This is the friend of Charlie in Blue. He writes, I watched the podcast, Candace needs to say two things and this will stop in its tracks. They are fundamental conservative principles.

1 (31m 44s):
And she didn't say either quote, Israel is not committing a genocide. Second quote, 30 dead raped, kidnapped, and beheaded Americans in Gaza makes the fight in Gaza America first. And then he ends it by saying, this is not Ukraine. He's literally saying what I have to say to make something stop in its tracks. Right? And then Charlie writes, this is right. I'm really trying to help her. What else is he gonna say to this person? And then, but it's that second message that I can tell you exactly what the context was. 'cause I was messaging Charlie about it and I can tell you the timeframe and why they wiped it is because it's from 2023. He then writes, it doesn't come natural to her because I truly think she doesn't understand saying that Muslims are forced to live in a Muslim quarter in Israel.

1 (32m 31s):
And that betrays the timeline. Okay? So what clearly happened in this text chain is that I tweeted, this is when it all started for me and I started getting threats that I had to take it back if I wanted my life back. And he's kind of saying that there, right, this will all stop. I tweeted that genocide is always wrong. Here's the exact tweet. No government anywhere has a right to commit a genocide ever. There is no justification for a genocide. I can't believe this even needs to be said or is even considered the least bit controversial to state. That tweet was me responding to something that Brian Mast said in Congress. He said, there's no such thing as an innocent Palestinian life that was grotesque.

1 (33m 12s):
So I then started getting peer pressured to correct the tweets to apologize for the tweet. At the time I was at the Daily Wire that I needed to understand why my tweet was wrong. Dave Rubin instantly replied and said something about Israel, even though I didn't mention Israel on the tweet. And by itself it was, I still stand by that tweet guys years on. And I was being inundated. Charlie was being inundated. Like how could she say this? How dare she say this thing is so wrong? And then I hosted somebody who was a Zionist on my show and that's what he's referring to the conversation that I had with Ami Kozak. And clearly Charlie probably said to him, you can watch this to get her viewpoints.

1 (33m 52s):
Candace is not antisemitic and that guy is not having it. He is incensed. And he's saying, here are the words that we have to hear from Candace. The reason they stripped that and didn't put the date that it was 2023 is because then it destroys the narrative that they're trying to put out that me and Charlie stopped, had a falling out because obviously I went on tour with Charlie at the beginning of 2024 and I spoke at their conference in the summer of 2024. And you know, don't let the facts get in the way of this bizarre narrative that Charlie and I had some falling out last year, which never happened. Rather, what happened was Charlie was peer pressured by these same individuals that I, you know, for me not to speak at Amfast. And I was just like, dude, I don't, I don't even care.

1 (34m 33s):
Which is what I told you now in terms of his statement there, that Charlie's viewpoints were not changing at all. These are not words that I put in Charlie's mouth. You can just go back and watch the things that he was saying. He hosted a sit down, which was incredible actually to discuss what antisemitism is and what anti-Semitism is not. It was a, a town hall of sorts with students. Gen Z as Megan Kelly said, she, you can't find anybody beneath the age of 30 that supports Israel. That's a fact. And Charlie was trying to communicate that their tactics, just like you see in that text message, was hurting their cause. People are tired of it or tired of being bullied. For me, they behaved like a mafia.

1 (35m 14s):
There's no other way to say it. I, I was, my livelihood was being threatened and then eventually, obviously I lost my job behind the scenes telling me what I had to say if I wanted to, I don't know, still be welcomed into the circle. And I made a conscious decision to not be welcomed into, I don't wanna be around people that are behaving like that, that are speaking like the way that person is speaking. Here's what she, she needs to say, who are you? I don't need to say anything. My statement was fine, genocide is always wrong. Okay? It's just always wrong. And you're not gonna convince me that I've done something wrong. They wanted me to apologize. I was being told I need to issue a public statement to a apologize for the tweet that I just read to you.

1 (35m 56s):
Genocide is always wrong, wackadoodle. Anyways, let's hear Charlie Kirk in his own words. This is from JU July of this year. He was hosting a town hall about antisemitism. Skyler. Let's first run the clip of just before we get into the APAC clip, just him discussing with Gen Z antisemitism, take a listen.

7 (36m 17s):
You're not anti-Israel, you don't wish them harm, you know, you're not, you know, like cheering on Iran.

8 (36m 23s):
No, I, I support is Israel. I think there are ally, I want them, I want

7 (36m 26s):
Be, but you would be called an antisemite by some people for saying this.

8 (36m 29s):
And I think that's ridiculous. I don't hate Jews because I think a nation should defend themselves. Exactly.

9 (36m 34s):
Yeah.

8 (36m 34s):
Like I don, I think that's the most ridiculous thing ever.

9 (36m 37s):
I feel like it's becoming like the word racism. Like we just disagree with them. So we just have to call them a name. I don't think it, they're actually anti-Semitic. I think people just can't agree with them and they can't prove them wrong. So they just throw a word out and be like, you're anti-Semitic for because you think that we should stop spending our money

8 (36m 54s):
There. Something that I see amongst the people I'm around, I do see more like general disdain towards, I mean just being honest Jewish people. That's correct. Just because they're constantly being told that you hate Jews. And it's like, fine, if you're gonna say I hate Jews over and over and over again, like if I'm gonna be convicted of the crime, I might as well do the crime. I fear the same thing happens with all the talk of race. The more we talk about it, the more we bring it up. Of course this is the racism actually happens. This

7 (37m 20s):
Is like, I try to tell, I thank you for saying this. Like, because like this is, I try to tell these people and they're like, we must get more aggressive. And so like let, let me ask a question. If we were to say, if we were to remove, like if people said what Tucker said is anti-Semitic, I don't hold that view, but it's like a lot of people on Twitter are like calling us out and like whatever, that's not gonna happen. But if we were to cancel Tucker, would anti sem anti-Semitism increase or decrease?

10 (37m 48s):
I think increase. Because that means any supporter of Tucker Carlson's statement therefore makes them anti-Semite

9 (37m 54s):
And associations. A hundred percent. Exactly.

7 (37m 56s):
But the binary that's presented is that if you don't passionately talk about it, you are a hater.

8 (38m 3s):
Exactly.

7 (38m 4s):
That's probably destructive for everybody involved. So for me, I'm trying to find this new path which is I love Israel. I visited there, my wife and I had the best experiences ever. I saw where Jesus rose from that and he walked on water. But also, I'm an American and I represent a generation that can't afford anything and that we are like flooded with illegals and no one speaks English and our hospitals are clogged. I think we need to have the prudence to reject the Jew hate. Like, okay, we're not gonna put up with that. That's dumb. But also if you call everyone an antisemite, if they don't take a puritanical view of the Netanyahu government, then I think that's, it's bad for everybody.

1 (38m 47s):
Again, that's him in his own words, just a little over a month before he lost his life. So I don't understand them, I don't know what they're trying to win here. And then he takes it a step further. He, they talk about a no-go zone. You imagine he's got these donors, they're threatening him and here is what he had to say when they were discussing apac. Take a listen.

7 (39m 7s):
How many of you guys think when a lawmaker and a man I respect like Ted Cruz uses the Bible to justify aid to Israel? Doesn't even know the verse. Do you guys think that's like not the best way to approach this? Raise your hand.

11 (39m 22s):
Okay. I think Ted Cruz is Genesis 12 three. I think a lot of people see that as Offput when you look at the New Testament. Why? Because I think a lot of people, they, they look especially at the writings of Paul where he talks about how that the new flesh is not the same as the people in the old covenant. The new flesh is everybody, as everyone's included. You're

12 (39m 37s):
Talking about Romans nine? Yes.

11 (39m 39s):
11, six. Yeah.

7 (39m 40s):
Are you Catholic?

11 (39m 41s):
Converting Catholic from Judaism? Yeah.

7 (39m 42s):
I can tell this is my next from Judaism. Yes. Oh wow. So so you are Jew, you are ethnically Jewish. Ethnically Jewish. Yes. And you have concerns about apac? Yes, I do. I'm told that by some people that if I criticize APAC I'm anti-Semitic. I

11 (39m 56s):
Think it's ridiculous. Yeah, I I feel like it's great to have a concern for your country.

7 (40m 0s):
Do you think that the, that APAC represents, again, I'm not saying I believe this, but I think this is what you're saying, that it represents a kind of cutting in line of prioritization away from the American people. Yes. Would you guys say that's a fair summary? Hundred percent. Meaning that like, okay, we vote, we're citizens, but a separate group gets higher priority because of whatever reasons you, you, you, you, you look like you want to chime in that

10 (40m 30s):
The entirety of the idea of a pack is to represent a group, but the fact that we're having, we're allowing a group that doesn't even represent American interests to influence the people who are supposed to be representing us. I have a huge problem with, and that's why I've said this before and a lot of people don't like when I say it, I actually think there's probably like 20 representatives between Senate and the house who I think are actually fully doing the work of the American people and don't have the interests of some group pulling their sway.

12 (40m 57s):
But when you hear that lots of other countries also are lobbying, do you think, I mean that you probably don't know the names of those countries, but it's happening. Does that upset you equally or is APAC just get all the, the press because it's so top of mind

10 (41m 13s):
If those other ones are doing the same thing? Of course, I do not think that other countries should be telling us how to spend, you know, the, the, the telling our representatives and people who are here to represent all of us that they should be focusing outside of the United States. America first, thank you.

1 (41m 32s):
You know, there once was a president who started talking about that, suggesting that the precursor to apac, which became APAC, should register under Farra. And he ended up getting shot in a moving vehicle in broad daylight with the whole world watching. So that's a dangerous conversation to be hosting is what I wanna say. It's a very dangerous conversation to be hosting. It is incredible that he is in his own words six weeks ago and they're just lying to that young ethnically Jewish kid who said he was converting Catholicism amazing. If the spirit of what he was saying, if he was the leader and was the spokesperson in the political realm for the Jewish people, they would go a lot further.

1 (42m 19s):
They would go a lot further. Instead they're making enemies everywhere. And as they make enemies, they then gaslight, they call their friends in the press, they call you names and they keep doing more of the thing that made them lose an entire generation of people. Charlie was trying to help them. He was trying to help them. As you can see, as he said, I tell them, who's he talking about when, when he said that? I keep telling them this. Who is he speaking about? Listen to Charlie in his own words. It's ridiculous to pretend like I am saying something that you cannot verify that Megan Kelly's lying. I tooker Carlson is lying and it is very difficult to not see as I do that. What I went through beginning at, in the beginning of 2024 seems to be what Charlie was going through in 2025, which is getting really tired of the pressure of people telling you something that you're doing is wrong or saying is wrong when it's so clearly is not, it's, it's almost like they try to make you think you're in a psychosis, right?

1 (43m 17s):
They, it's it's it's level of gaslighting you've never seen before. It's like, how could you say, what did you, what did you mean when you said genocide is always wrong? I can help you. I'm your friend Candace. Don't you see why you should say sorry for that tweet? I know I, I look back at text messages. I know other Jewish people, you know, they love you, but they, they were hurt. You know, they saw your tweet and they just said what happened to Candace? And they said it brought tears to their eyes and I held the line. I said, I'm not apologizing if me saying genocide is always wrong, brought tears to their eyes, then these people are demons. Like what? Like, excuse me. So that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

1 (43m 59s):
And I also just wanna say I, Tucker Carlson was amazing I last night as well. I know he's catching a lot of flack, but what his message was very important. He shared the story of Christ and that these people who plot and lie and, you know, censor and pass laws, all it ever does inevitably is the exact opposite of what they're hoping that it does. And that really is the lesson of the Lord. That is, that is the lesson of, of all of the plots failing. And here is a clip of what Tucker Carlson had to say last night.

13 (44m 30s):
Some people think nature is like, like this, but actually it's like this. That's why Columbia engineers, everything we make for anything nature can throw at you, Columbia engineered for whatever.

15 (44m 45s):
The main thing about Charlie and his message, he was bringing the gospel to the country. He was doing the thing that the people in charge hate most, which is calling for them to repent. So how is Charlie's message different? And Charlie was a political person who was deeply interested in coalition building and in getting the right people in office because he knew that vast improvements are possible politically. But he also knew that politics is not the final answer. It can't answer the deepest questions actually, that the only real solution is Jesus.

15 (45m 30s):
And the reason it's really simple politics at its core is a process of critiquing other people and getting them to change Christianity. The gospel message, the message of Jesus begins with repentance. Christianity calls upon you to change our core prayer given to us by Jesus. The Lord's prayer demands that we forgive other people but proceeding that is a request for our forgiveness. In other words, forgive us our sins, meditate on what we've done wrong, how we've fallen short, and then it becomes possible to forgive other people.

15 (46m 18s):
That is a call to change our hearts from Jesus. And that is the only way forward.

1 (46m 26s):
Couldn't agree more. And I will say this like I am on this journey to figure out what happened on that day. I'm not going to stop unless Erika Kirk asks me to stop as I have said, or my father or my father or my husband asks me to stop. Because truth matters. And I think it is amazing that Erica found it in her heart to forgive, but it is also my belief that there are more people involved that are in need of forgiveness. Okay? Like I said, a lot more that I have found out and I wanna be really methodical about releasing information. But this one, they chose the wrong person. They, they chose the wrong person to take out. Anyways. You guys, before I get to some of your comments, by the way, I think I went off air on Friday and didn't read comments from last week.

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1 (49m 31s):
Okay, some comments from Friday's episode that I didn't get to. I'm sorry about that. Oh, you, Chris writes, Christ King, may he guide you, be with you and keep you safe. You know what? That message was even more appropriate. Now, Manela Palacio writes, Candace is Jack Poso trustworthy. I find it odd that a Navy intelligence officer, that the people closest to you betray you often for their own interests. It happened to Jesus. Also the children that spoke yesterday, she is referring to the children who witnessed the assassination of Charlie Kirk and spoke out about that on the news the next morning on Good Morning's America. Also, the children that spoke yesterday sounded highly rehearsed on their quote unquote experience.

1 (50m 13s):
Okay, so to the first portion, I can tell you that I know Jack Po Soc, he has always been very solid with with me. I mean always. And Jack Po Soc by the way, every single time that I have been attacked publicly, particularly over the declaration that Christ is king. It's like a trigger for Jack Po Soc. He goes hard in the paint if you say you can't say Christ is king. Jack Poso wants to go to war immediately, him and his brother. And that's great. So he's like a crusader. And if he was part of some intelligence program that was not allowing any critique of Zionism or whatever it is, he would've definitely made an enemy of me pretty early on. People you know, really went masked down when I said Crisis king, a post me being fired from a daily wire.

1 (50m 59s):
He completely held, aligned. I met his wife. She's absolutely lovely. So I do know that he was Naval intelligence officer. He's never denied that. And I, if he is an intelligence officer that is still active, then I gotta tell you, he's good. I like Jack. I like Jack. And I can only tell you my experience with people. If I uncover something about him, then I'm gonna come for his whole life. But I like Jack Corey. Henry writes, and I will say this, I've known him from the beginning of my career and he has always been solid and supportive. And so, I don't know, I just, I just don't see it. Corey Henry writes, love you. I wish I could give you more. Christ is king. Are you kidding me? That's a huge donation. Guys, you guys have been unbelievable and I'm very grateful to all of you guys.

1 (51m 40s):
I really am. Like, it's just we, we had an incredible, we've had an incredible year with you guys and I know many of you guys are just finding my content in our new go watch the Becoming JIT series. I think a lot of people have been hooked on that. It's a really good one. And she's a dude. That's it. Marta writes, Christ is King. I love that. That is the repeat comment. Thank you Marta. Devin Nola writes, you are a super sleuth. Thanks for all that you do. Israel has the most to lose from Charlie turning away from them. At this point, I'm waiting for something or someone to prove me wrong on this theory. I get that. What, what you're saying. I will say this, I would argue that in terms of the free markets, like you go with your product, you say, I'm pro-Israel, I'm running this business, they are losing badly, badly.

1 (52m 30s):
There's no question about that. Everyone can see it everywhere and it's because of how they behave, right? The gaslighting, the threats, the intimidation, we can control your life. We can call and we'll create a firestorm. So you won't be able to hit the stage at am fest. People can see that and they don't like that behavior. So when you do that and then also say that you're the good guys, it doesn't ring true. Now they definitively have lost the most because clearly people did not buy Bebe's Bs. And people, the fact that people immediately thought that, and I wasn't the person who said this, but they immediately thought that Israel was suspicious, really shows you that they have lost all goodwill with the American people.

1 (53m 12s):
And that's again, because of what they're doing, their actions in Gaza. So I would agree with you that they, they've lost a lot since losing Charlie because he was kind of the last person who said, I am pro-Israel. And he actually was somebody who had a presence across all of these universities. And now, you know, we'll see what happens with the direction that turning point takes. But I would say that the, the students are gonna be very reticent to support Israel. Bree writes, how did the rifle get from the roof to the woods? Please help Make, make, please help this make sense. Grateful for you, Candace. Keep up the great work. Brie. Again, that's from last week.

1 (53m 53s):
Nobody knows, but I would like to see the tunnel network. Hey, I don't know how you do that. There's probably some radar you can buy to see the tunnels are you're just a student on the campus. If it's legal, obviously I have no idea if it's legal. Do not do anything illegal. I don't know if you can just buy, all I know is the the laser stuff that I use to see if there's a stud in the wall. And that's perfectly legal. I don't know if you can buy radar to look underneath, as you guys could see. I am, I was never gonna be an engineer in life. Clearly. I was never going to be an engineer in life. But I do know a little bit about plumbing. My dad was a plumber and I know that there's gotta be a whole network under there. If they're supporting a waterfall in that amphitheater style, it's like a whole thing.

1 (54m 35s):
They have a whole thing on their website on UBU about how the irrigation is maintained and who's in charge of it. And I would like people to look into that. Enough said, All right, let's get into some comments from today. Marsy, thank you for that donation. Marsy writes, dark forces want us to fight amongst each other. We need to come together and fight this evil. Yes, we did this left and right, you know, forcing the FBI's hand and saying, okay, maybe these messages didn't happen. Marsy continues. Netanyahu is using Charlie's death to distract us from the ongoing genocide in Gaza. I would say if that was his plan, it ain't working. This person writes, the internet is back in Palestine and people are speaking out. Yep. And I have been somebody that has spoken out and it came at great risk.

1 (55m 18s):
And I am very happy that I did. I have no regrets. I was happy to be canceled from anything to say what I felt in my heart to be true. And that is the, that is also the story, the lessons of the story of Christ. You know, you have to tell the truth. You have to accept the punishment and Christ will get you through it. And Christ got my family through last year. There's no question Huan Ian writes, oh, hurricane, but spelled Huan. What happened to the screwdriver? They said they found it on the roof even though you don't use a screwdriver to take that rifle apart. No way. I didn't even realize that. Sorry if you've talked about this. I have not. I don't think so. I've watched all your videos been meaning to ask you, I just haven't been able to catch you live.

1 (55m 58s):
I didn't know that. I did not know that. You don't even use a screwdriver to take that apart. I, their look, they're, they're doing their best. Okay? They're doing their best to come up with a story that works and none of them do. Whitney writes something about Dr. Frank Turk isn't sitting right with me. Unsure if he's having some unfounded guilt about not doing more, and that's making him seem suspicious or whatnot. But I cannot shake the unsettling feeling in my gut regarding him. God bless and protect you. Yeah, I mean, I thought his speech was not the direction that I would have gone on had I have been invited to speak. I am not saying yeah, to like he's guilty about something. But I am saying that like a lot of people had that feeling, had watched his speech and of course I think he was a Marine in the past before, and I don't know, I really don't know what to say about that.

1 (56m 48s):
He gave a speech that he wanted to give and nothing in my research has come up about thus far has come up about Frank Turk. So I am just reading your comment. There wasn't the direction again that I would've taken, but I wasn't invited to speak. And as the Daily Mail pointed out, I raged and raged about that. I freaked out and threw everything, threw my toys outta the pram. Pain, Revere rights. Why didn't the local police department treat it like it was a crime? Scene two, on what basis is the FBI involved? That's a good point. Three Intel recruits heavily from the LDS. That is a fact of Latter Day Saints Church of Latter Day Saints. And apparently they recruit from that particular campus, which I found out, which is interesting.

1 (57m 28s):
Again, we'll get into all that this week. Four Tyler looks like a fed like Timothy McVeigh. Five Fette. Yeah, I, I think we're looking for a totally different weapon. That's where I'm at. Six ki Bono seven. It's telling if they make him a memorial like JFK. Look, I think by the time we're done investigating this, we're gonna have a lot of questions about who had the audacity to honor him last night. I think so. I'm just feeling it. If I had to make a guess, that would be my guess. Working for aliens rights. I have been a victim of predators and creeps on my life in Canada.

1 (58m 9s):
The evil rich elite perverts run the world and they're too powerful. The only person who can protect me from them is God. When I go to heaven, God bless everyone. Heaven will save us. Indeed. Rosa Marie Martinez writes on a Charlie Kirk show. Last week, Andrew said, someone powerful called Erica and asked how much she knows. And she said, I know everything. If that wasn't relevant, Andrew wouldn't have said it. What does it mean? I think she knows everything. She's wife. What is a wife? Everything she said on stage yesterday, a confidant, every, every secret that no, the world is not meant to know about Charlie Kirk. She knows about Charlie Kirk who was stressing him out. Why? Why did you lay your head next to your wife or your husband? My husband knows everything there is to know about me.

1 (58m 50s):
And so yeah, there's no question that she knows everything. I saw people that were going, Erika Kirk is going on, I think Alex Clark's show and since they were tweeting it at me, I think it was Laura Loomer. She's totally wacky. Oh, you'll see. See what? I don't lie for this reason. Okay, I don't lie about anything. So I'm happy she's going to speak about the rumors that BB net and Yahoo offered him a boatload of money. I didn't say 150 million was offered, 'cause I don't know the exact amount BB offered him. I said $150 million. I was told Bibb gave for Operation Mocking pastor. Remember when everybody, when all the pastors one weekend got up on stage and were like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens?

1 (59m 31s):
That is what I was told that that was $150 million went into that. And, but I definitively made the statement that Bibb Netanyahu offered Charlie Kirk a boatload of money and he rejected it. So she will respond to that. I said that Catholics were excited, hopeful about Charlie. I don't know why that caused so, so much people to be up, people to be upset like what is wrong? Like we are Christians. We should be, no matter what, defending one another. He obviously didn't convert, but also the nastiness towards Catholics just needs to stop point blank. I mean, Erika Kirk was raising a Catholic family, so that was a strange thing to have people react so crazy.

1 (1h 0m 11s):
I, I don't lie because I always know that eventually daylight comes in and things get exposed. And so I'm excited to hear her speak about the pressure that he was under, as was alluded to by Alex Clark to speak about whether or not he was offered more money, whether he lost money, which he did. I was told that individual was Bob Schulman, as I said last week, that took away millions of dollars from Turning Point, wanted his name taken off the building and then changed his mind to a 180 when Charlie died. I mean, there was more than just him obviously, but he was getting pressure from donors. I mean, I think he said it on a show. So yeah, that is, daylight is always the best disinfectant.

1 (1h 0m 52s):
Anyways, you guys, thank you for all the support. We're gonna have an incredible week more stuff to reveal to you. If you wanna support the show you, if you wanna go to prison, you can go to Candace Owens dot com and buy a ccia, a parody shirt. 'cause you're going with me. I'm not going alone. I'll do it. I'll do hood rat stuff, but I wanna do it with my friends. So if you buy it, then I'm gonna report you to Laura Luer who will report you to the CIA and I'll see you guys in prison tomorrow.

9/20/25
Who Moved The Camera Right Above Charlie's Head? | Candace Ep 239


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All right, you guys, I hope everyone has been having a good Friday. What are we gonna discuss today? Well, it has been going viral, Amir, minutes after Charlie Kirk is shot. There are two men that look rather mysterious. They appear, they move his chair and they take down the camera that's directly or was directly behind his head. Why did they do that? Well, fortunately I was able to establish connection with one of those individuals and I was also able to see the footage with my own eyes. What I saw was very interesting, but what I didn't see was even more interesting. So let's jump right back into this. Welcome back to Candace.

1 (1m 25s):
Okay, rare Friday episode. Gotta do Friday episode here. Because this is just so important and the vultures are circulating above, man, they are definitely insisting that we stop investigating this. I should at first let you know that the Senate has voted and they have passed a bipartisan resolution to designate October 14th, which is Charlie's birthday as Charlie Kirk Remembrance Day. And I have to say that is a very government maneuver. Like we get a Martin Luther King Day, we've got Martin Luther King Boulevards, John F. Kennedy gets a library and a national day of mourning. But you know what?

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You know what I was thinking? I like to just find out who killed them all first. That's interesting to me. Who killed them? Before we give them a library, I'd like to know who did it. I think that's the best way for us to learn. The best way for us to remember is to study, right? That's what I learned at grade school. That's what we're doing right now. We're studying this and learning everything. Let's at first address what many people have been emailing me, constantly asking me, can't you gotta look into this? You gotta look into this. Look at these two strange men. We're gonna refer to this as Cameragate. It is Cameragate. And I wanna say this, shout out to all of the internet sleuths, the talkers, the YouTubers, those of you who were not playing around.

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And you notice this because I did not in the beginning. But yes, as I said, there's an individual who is at first in the moment just after the shooting, he's like up on the rocks near the car that Charlie gets taken away in while he's being carried away. Let's take a look at that f that footage actually first. So let's look at that footage and don't worry, there's no gore in this episode. Difficult for me to even look at that sort of footage. Take a look. You can see Charlie's there

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And

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One of you guys caught this. You probably didn't even see it there. And we can get in a little closer. Do you guys have it? Slow it down or do you guys just wanna circle here? Okay, right there, Right there. An individual standing there. Again, I am just amazed at internet sleuths as I was like, wow, that is very strange. That person appears to be calmly talking into their phone. It's like a circus around them. What's he doing? Who's he? Who's he speaking to, to, to? Then just a couple of minutes afterward, that same individual appears alongside another individual and he moves Charlie's chair.

1 (4m 12s):
Wait, that's a crime scene. That's not good. And he moves it because he wants to stand on it as he takes down the cameras or the camera rather. That is just above Charlie's head. That's the camera that I'm talking about on the right hand side. That's a camera that I'm referring to. And we are going to now take a look at him. And he is also the individual, as many of you pointed out, that was near Charlie or just before the assassination. But let's check out that footage of him in the immediate aftermath, kind of switching around the cameras, the two of them Take a look.

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Fireworks.

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Hey, this

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Safety team is here. I just heard them say the active shooter Charlie Kirk has been shot. Charlie Kirk got hit is what the, what the security detail just said.

1 (5m 42s):
Don't worry guys. We're gonna get closer. But this is just a wide shot so you can see what's going on here and then we'll get a bit closer. I know you guys have pulled apart this footage a million ways and thank you for that. And here's the closer version of that. You can see slowed down here. He pulls out the chair, he stands on it. And yes, that is would be a big no-no for a crime scene. You don't move anything. He takes down the camera that is directly above where Charlie was sitting and would be able to provide, therefore a lot of, in a lot of insight. And then you can see he kind of sits the camera onto the desk and it looks like he removes the sim card from it or the SD card, if you will, which we're watching right here.

1 (6m 33s):
So I'm going, I'm going, when I saw this footage, who is that? Like, actually I should be able to figure this out 'cause I've got a pretty big network at Turning Point USA, I'm the person's wearing shades, I'm not recognizing the individual. And I reach out to somebody on the inside and I'm just like, who's this person? And they tell me the person's name. And I go, wait a second. And I look again. I'm like, I know this person 'cause it's been a few years, but I, I know this person. This person's been around turning point for quite some time for years.

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Like I said, back when I was working at Turning Point, early days. So I'm like, I'm just gonna reach out. Obviously I know this individual, I'm gonna reach out and I'm gonna say, Hey, what's up with this? Where is this footage? Why did you do this? What were you doing up there on the rocks? What's, what's up? Like this is not the first thing that I would do if I had just witnessed Charlie Kirk being shot. And I'll say this right now, he was extremely forthcoming. Like as soon as I reached out, I just sent a text because I still had his number. And he was extremely forthcoming, immediately got onto the phone and First and foremost, I should say, obviously he's seeing all these clips going viral and he is fearful for his family.

1 (7m 59s):
He is, doesn't have any security and people are looking, you know, and he said, look, I, as you can see in the footage, I was sitting right to the left or or to the left of Charlie when Charlie got shot. And I instantly knew that he was not going to be okay, instantly knew that he was dead. And I then like, as you can see, people that are running, anybody that was in that zone ran to the back and he caught his breath. He wanted to check in with and, and communicate to other people that were working with and around turning point USA.

1 (8m 43s):
That's why he is on his phone communicating to them what had happened. That's what he told me. Then I a, I asked, okay, well what about this, this camera thing? Why would you grab the cameras? And he says, because the first thing that I thought is that I better secure the footage and be helpful and give that footage, hand that footage over to the feds. Well obviously that's where things get into a pickle with me. 'cause we don't trust the feds, right? I'm like, no, we don't trust the feds. We don't gotta do that. Just let me have the footage. I'm like, just send me the footage, please. Let me look at it. There's a lot of conspiracies that are floating around right now. People don't know what to believe. People are doing very, what I would say, credible videos.

1 (9m 24s):
People that certainly have the credibility are ballistics experts that are saying that what we see in the front is an exit wound on an entry wound. I don't know one way or the other because I'm not an expert. I'm getting inundated with messages from people that hunt, people that are in the military saying that this had to come, have come from another direction. This footage could help if as if nothing else, let me help you. Let me formally debunk that by seeing this footage. Like, could you send this footage over to me? Well, he didn't wanna send the footage over to me without checking, with turning point lawyers. I said, look, technically you own the footage like you, you know, you and some other people own the footage.

1 (10m 5s):
Like, let me just see the footage because why, why go through lawyers? Like I just wanna see the footage. And also, I asked the question, why not just release it? We've already seen the worst thing that you could possibly see from the front, right? Like the front is what is the traumatized traumatizing video? And I understand that he wants to afford his wife some protection. Like this has to experience that. Erica, so many people watching the love of your life in the last second of their life, it's traumatizing. I'm traumatized by it, right? That's not my husband and the father of my children. And so out of a, a loyalty to Erica, he also doesn't want to give more footage to the internet.

1 (10m 49s):
But I said, look, I'm not gonna publish it. I just wanna see it and I think you should let me see that because people trust me. They know that I'm very serious about this. I'm, I don't care about anything right now other than figuring out who killed Charlie Kirk. So in the short run, he agrees that rather than send the footage, he will get onto a FaceTime call with me and he will show me the footage on his computer. He did that and I watched the footage and I'm going to tell you what I saw and to the people, specifically the people that are in the military, people that know weapons. I'm telling you this because you might be able to add more color or more clarity here what you were, what you would expect to see if given the weapon that they have said, did this, the bullet they have said, did this.

1 (11m 41s):
I don't know anything about any of this, so I'm just telling you what I saw. Okay? First and foremost, there is nothing gory about this shot at all. And so again, I am still going, going to work with him to get me the footage so that I think it should be shared. There's nothing, there's nothing gory about this footage from the back. The thing that really stood out to me, and I just kept asking him to replay it over and over and over again is that there's no blood. This

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There's no blood from the back. There's, there is no blood. So I think a lot of people were wondering whether or not that bullet pierced and went out to the back. I think I vaguely even remember, and Skylar, you can maybe live look this up, but like I thought the Feds were saying they were looking for a bullet at some point, which is now very alarming to me. I don't understand that. How could they have been looking for a bullet? Because if I'm not seeing and there isn't, I'm telling you what happens in the front is not what happens in the back at all. If I'm not seeing any blood, what, what are we to take from that? The only thing that could make sense if what they're saying is true and that person took the shot from the place that they're saying that individual took the shot from, it would suggest that it, it's, it was inside of Charlie, right?

1 (13m 35s):
And they would know that the feds would have known that. So they would have communicated that they were never looking for a bullet because remember one shot. So I'm very confused. I'm very confused, not by what I saw, but what I didn't see. Okay? That's pretty much all I can tell you right now. And I am going to try to get all of the footage and I am again, I understand that right now he is very fearful, but I am going to continue to try to privately push him to just release it. I, I believe that transparency is the only way I'm mu much more. I think all of us would agree I in have much more trust in the people than I do in the feds.

1 (14m 19s):
The feds are lying about everything. So they should not be the only people that have access to this. And I understand not wanting to have that relived from another angle, but given the fact that there is no gore and there is no blood from this angle, I don't see why not. And so that's what I wanted to share with you guys. I know some of you guys were insinuating, I got a lot of emails that it could have been a fette. I had to look that up, I don't even know what that is. I was like, guys, I don't know anything ette shells, that something could have been a lot closer that hit him and that everything else could have been a distraction. All I can tell you is that there's no blood. That's it.

1 (14m 59s):
There's no, there is no blood in that video. So give me your thoughts on that. Now I wanna get to another tip that I received that is pretty interesting because look, as you guys know, when I began investigating this assassination, at no point did I ever speculate that any other country was involved and never speculated that Israelis were involved. So it was surprising to say, Elise, that they're simply pretending that I did, pretending that I blamed Israel, pretending that I said BB net and Yahoo killed Charlie Kirk. It is now, like I said yesterday, it feels like they are trying to get ahead of something like they know more than we know. I don't know why you would say something or, or accuse somebody of saying something that they didn't.

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I do believe that there's very clearly, we all believe there's very clearly a government level conspiracy that is involved, okay? There's no other way to assess. Assess those disastrous text messages. Absolute disaster of a fed operation. With those messages yesterday, I pretty casually mentioned to you guys something that the doorbell cam footage, which TMZ happened upon somehow was from a street on upon which a ton of employees that work for Calera Engineering Live.

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We showed you, I think one or two of those employees, the husband and wife I had mentioned worked for Cal Caldera engineering. And it is a country that purports to manufacture all valves. And I said this, I said, I know nothing about the valve industry. All I know is that every time I start investigating a government conspiracy or looking into people that are really shady, like Harley Pastor Nick, thus far, three people who I've investigated who oddly either them or their families had backgrounds working in this very niche valve and piping industry, like manufacturers of valves and pipes. I'm like, is everybody doing that? This is very strange.

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Well, many of you emailed me something that was quite surprising. Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I, they, you let me know that this is a very niche industry. And by niche I mean that you asserted that it implies major government contracts, likely the CIA, those of you who have worked at those industries telling me that there are even certain valves that are exclusively manufactured in Israel and that they tend to be involved in this. The government and the military tend to be involved in this and that even by the way on Calder's website, they noted that they have worked in Israel. They have a map that they, that they note every country that they have done engineering projects in.

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And one one of them or two dots are in Israel. And somebody explained why the government gets involved when it comes to valves and piping. And I'm just going to read you this email because maybe there are people at home who are just as ignorant as I am about government level engineering. Okay? This person wrote Hi Candace. I wanted to share some detailed information regarding valves piping and their relevance to critical infrastructure and intelligence communities valves as critical infrastructure assets. Modern industrial valves are used in pipelines, water treatment plants, power plants and chemical facilities are often automated and networked forming part of operational technology and SCADA systems.

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This allows remote monitoring and control of the flow of gas, oil, water, and chemicals, cybersecurity implications. These valves are part of systems that could be targeted for cyber attacks. Compromised valves can cause pipeline ruptures, water contamination or industrial accidents because of this intelligence and regulatory agencies, the C-I-S-A-N-S-A-P-H-M-S-A-F-E-R-C monitor valve networks and may maintain trust relationships with manufacturers and engineers to ensure security and resilience integration with aboveground systems. Modern valve networks can also integrate with cameras, sensors, alarms and environmental monitoring.

1 (19m 15s):
This means that an operator could simultaneously monitor flow, view live video and respond to alarms which enhances both security and operational oversight and strategic value for intelligence communities. Knowledge of valve locations, models and control systems provide insight into critical infrastructure vulnerabilities access to or relationships with manufacturers allows agencies to monitor, assess and secure supply chains. Remote monitoring of valves and integrated systems can support emergency response simulations and national security exercises. And then they provide us with the real world contact context by writing companies like Caldera Engineering in ProGo, Utah manufacture specialized industrial valves and control systems.

1 (19m 59s):
While no public evidence currently links them to intelligence contracts, their products could theoretically be part of OT systems monitored by government agencies due to the critical nature of the infrastructure that they serve. In short valves themselves are simple mechanical devices, but when networked and embedded in critical infrastructure, they become strategically important for monitoring, security and intelligence purposes. That just sounds right to me that, I mean, I'm telling you when I every story, I'm like, what is this person that's like their family's inval? Like, I mean I don know anybody's family did this. I don't know. Again, like this is the kind of stuff that like we don't know. No, but we know and that hit and I feel like there is a bigger piece of this that involves Caldera.

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And like I said, I perceive a government conspiracy. You'd be a fool not to see a government conspiracy here, especially with the way that I am being attacked for simply trying to investigate this. And the attacks are growing frantic. It's almost as if they all received an email from somebody who said, I don't care what you say, make it up out of thin air and do not stop attacking Candace Owens. That is the loudest. It's like an alarm went off and everyone, people that I thought I was friends with are coming after me with obscene lies that are just so easily fact checked so easily you can debunk them in four seconds on the internet. And they're delivering it as though it's honest.

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We're gonna talk about that. I was even surprised PBDI mean I've always been friendly with him, I've always been kind to him. I have nothing wrong to him and he seems to be kind of, he's the one who platformed without any pushback. Eric Bowling. And I have an idea about why all that may be, I'll tell you in just a second.

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1 (25m 3s):
Okay, All right, so let's get into how weird these headlines are getting. It's, it's very strange and I think we know why it's happening. We obviously know why it's happening, but even the publications that are usually not so blatant, 'cause in order to be a propagandist you wanna be effective, right? You gotta like lie a little and get people to believe you not just do things that are just so nakedly deceptive that people go, okay, why am I even reading this publication? Well, the Daily Mail put out this headline about me again if it like this. Look at this journalist Victoria Churchill who reached out. She writes Candace Owens rages after being snubbed from the Charlie Kirk memorial speaking roster.

1 (25m 49s):
When did this happen? Like the lying here is actually making me uncomfortable. I told you yesterday that we received way too many emails about Charlie's Memorial. All of them were asking specifically for me to confirm that I was going didn't feel good to me it felt very inauthentic. I know these journalists are not my friends. I knew they were writing kid pieces, but all of them included that question. Did you like, are you going, are you gonna go like, you want me to confirm my attendance so that you know where I'm gonna be ahead of time? Am I being paranoid? Does that seem like a little weird? Even on PBD show where he just gives a platform to a guest to completely lie for two minutes straight.

1 (26m 32s):
There is this random second where PBD rather oddly says something along the lines of, you don't think she's going to the funeral. Like they're gonna keep talking about this. Take a listen again.

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At some point her credibility, I mean, is gonna go down the tubes because she needs to bring receipts. Bill Ackerman brought receipts. How long was that tweet? It's still going. I think he was there in the room. I'm still reading it. Andrew Colbert was there in the room. You're on the board of Turning Point? Yeah. Okay. When's the last time you saw Candace Owens

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In person? Yeah. 2015. Oh, 2016. Oh wow. Okay. Yeah. No,

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When's the last time she was at a Turning Point

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Event? Not in many years. Okay, but

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So let's

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Talk you this without even being, being biased. There's a, there's a be there's, is Candace even involved? There's in Shirley Kirk's life no at all. Question proof that Candace Owens is nothing, has nothing to do. She would be in, in a perfect world if, if they didn't have this, what I already know was a, is a very quiet breakup where she got too rabbit hole for him. She would be the logical error to the T-P-U-S-A throne. But she's not.

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And now she's not even

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Invited. Correct. So this is, this is, so their divide is, wait a minute,

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They're not invited. Meaning, meaning she's not even there.

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Yeah, she's not, she's not there. She's not one of the names that I Why You don't think she'll be at the funeral? No, no, no

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Air.

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That's the funeral air to a, she

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Doesn't speak at the events anymore. I mean,

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Okay, so First and foremost, why did they all want to know if I was going to this event, I said there is no way we are going to this event. Now there's a 0% chance, First and foremost. Why are you saying, but anybody can go to it. You just buy a ticket to the event and you're all working to try to get me to confirm that I'm going and you're doing this as if you're trying to like push my buttons and be like, we gotta make her get into her ego so she like shows up and like post it on social media. Nope. Actually, you know, while I'm attacking the Feds, maybe not going to a public event, which the feds are organizing is probably a very good idea. I'm good. You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna listen to Power on My Headphones and go see. Yay. How's that for a memorial for Charlie Kirk? That feels like the right thing for me to do right now.

1 (28m 37s):
I mean, I'm, I'm not going to this memorial 'cause it's strange to lie. Like this is very strange for context, just so you can realize how odd this is. I spoke at Turning Points conference, two conferences last year. It's, it's so easily, like I said, to debunk that you have to ask yourself why they are saying it. Here is me speaking on Turning point USA stage last year and here's what I said by the way, which got Charlie in a lot of trouble. Well let me tell you something, America, it does, it does feel so good to go everywhere in the world and to realize that there is awakening not just happening here. Lemme tell you guys, it's happening all across the globe. People are starting to ask the hard questions and you know, you start getting close. When they start to call you names, they instantly wanna suggest that there's something wrong and there's something backwards about being America first.

1 (29m 25s):
You're starting to hear the way they're framing that. Now, when you say you're America first, they'll ask you, what do you mean you're America first? Do you mean that you're, you're an isolationist, you do believe that we should, we shouldn't have did what we did during World War ii. All of these things trying to pollute it. It's not

11 (29m 41s):
That difficult America first, first name America, last name first we put this country's interests before the interests of foreign countries overseas. All of them. I don't care.

1 (29m 54s):
Yeah, it kind of went on and on, but it was kind of me saying, especially since three months earlier, I had gotten fired from a daily wire like Israel, you're not special. And yeah, Charlie got in trouble for the stuff that I said on stage and then they came inward. I told that I was not allowed to speak at AB Fest. The donors were making threats. But like I went on tour with Turning Point last year. It's so on their website, it's, so this is like the strangest thing. We could pull up this website live free tour Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens, quiet breakup. What are we, why are we doing this? It's very strange. Here's all the places that we went to last year.

1 (30m 34s):
Now they are pushing these headlines that are so far beyond the realm of reality. Like the one that I just showed you where they say that I'm angry. And then when you look into who's writing these articles, like Victoria Churchill, you note that she has a connection to apac. So APAC is pushing this, right? The answer is implied by the people who are attacking me. They're all ultra Zionists, right? Like I said, the author of that article is an ultra Zionist and here she is starting off 2018 in DC and she's got a picture of herself. If you can scroll down, I know If you can see this like sitting in the audience in APAC and she's thrilled America, Israel, it's like all of these people are agents for a foreign country and I feel like Bibi net and Yahoo is spending a lot of money right now.

1 (31m 24s):
He, he's just way too involved concerned about turning Point USA, the future of Turning Point USA attacking Candace Owens. And I think something sinister is going on here. How can you not see that? I also wanna say this, I have had a flood of Turning Point employees reach out to me maybe because he says she would've been the natural heir to turning point USA. I'm not trying to be the heir to turning point USAI kind of like my life. I don't want take money from donors, okay? Because they do what they did to Charlie. They're not buying, they're not, they're not donating money to charity because they view it as a charity. They don't even, they wanna purchase your voice. That's it. And I don't wanna give mine up, but what these people are telling me is a very dark story that involves these donors, sponsors, influencers, a takeover of swords that I think was happening right under Charlie's nose.

1 (32m 17s):
And I wanna say this formally as we keep investigating this, I believe that Charlie Kirk was betrayed by people who are close to him based on what I have seen thus far. The evidence, the quote unquote recedes that require a way deeper investigation into the apparatus, the financial apparatus at Turning Point. There was definitely some weird activity leading up to this moment happening at the organization and I've been able to verify it. I have been given names and I intend to now embark on this lengthier investigation, which I need more help on. I've reached out to some journalists, I'm sharing the information with them and I think we're gonna discover that this was ugly uglier than we could have ever imagined.

1 (33m 3s):
Okay? There is a fear here that we are all perceiving a desperation almost to end the investigation. The smears are becoming radical. Radical. You can't just pretend Candace hasn't spoken to Charlie Kirk in years, but they're doing it and they're trying to be convincing and shocked and putting this out. I, I've never stopped talking to Charlie. I mean yesterday I released just one of many messages that I have with Charlie, which prove that he was in the months leading up to this concerned about Israel and how Israel was coming after our free speech. Free speech meant a lot to him, right? This message is from May, we can pull that back up, right?

1 (33m 44s):
Charlie sent me his tweet because after the assassination of Sarah Milgram and Iran Lelinski in DC, people were calling for like hate speech laws. And Charlie were, you know, authored a long tweet saying these were beautiful people, they had their lives ahead of them. But I must push back against one thing. And again, it was just the justification that this somehow meant that we had to, you know, get rid of free speech. You know, like it suddenly like, oh well this happened so now we need to say free speech is wrong. And So I wrote back to him and I said, great tweet. And he gave prayer hands and I said, speech censorship is coming to America.

1 (34m 26s):
And he wrote back, as you can see, and the date here is May 22nd of this year. It totally is okay, me and Meghan and Tucker are not lying to you. Charlie was concerned about the speech that he felt the restrictions. And inevitably this happens when you get into bed with Israel, you can't criticize them at all. As Meghan said before you start enduring threats. And what I have learned from the employees there is that back in May turning point had some big changes, some odd changes as they're describing it to me. Certain departments, people that were being fired, people that were told that they had to keep certain things, a secret secret from whom?

1 (35m 6s):
Secret from whom something is not right. Nothing we are being told is true. And the strangest thing is that Pam Bondi, who is a complete loser and a tool is trying to use the assassination of Charlie Kirk to lay the groundwork for hate speech laws in America, the very thing that Charlie was fighting against, they all just got right to work trying to pass laws. Well Charlie Kirk has said, you know, we gotta hate speech is something exactly what he's messaging me about, that he doesn't want to happen. They're trying to use his death to justify. Listen to what Pam Bondi said to Katie Miller on her podcast.

1 (35m 50s):
Take a listen.

12 (35m 51s):
There's free speech and then there's hate speech. No. And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.

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Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people So we show them that some action is better than no action.

12 (36m 12s):
We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything. And that's across the aisle.

1 (36m 24s):
So to be clear, that's the Feds telling you that they wanna pass speech laws, which will basically just give them the full power to go after you for wrong think, okay? And they're doing it in the most disturbing way ever by going after Charlie Kirk's legacy and using his assassination to say, oh, well now we've got pass, we've gotta get hate speech done. Which by the way, who was the person of a leader who said that he was passing laws against speech in America that was BB net in Yahoo. Okay? Years ago on record saying that he was working with the government of America and any person that criticized Israel would find themselves on the wrong side of the law. Okay? You can find that clip of him saying that and now what's happening?

1 (37m 5s):
But we haven an occupied administration. There's no question Trump is occupied by Zionist, okay? He's completely impotent, he's completely powerless. He cannot say anything that goes against Israel or Bibi Netanyahu. He's letting them do whatever they want. He no pushback whatsoever. It's very clear Bibi is in control and his administration is saying that it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. But this was the plan, okay? This was the plan. And we have to stand up to this guys. We have to fight this tooth and nail. The reason they're doing this obviously is because they can't win in the free markets. People are, as Megan said, people that are under 30 are anti-Israel. So that means the future of America's anti-Israel.

1 (37m 45s):
So what they're going to try to do is to pass speech laws, Bo Bolshevik speech laws they're gonna arrest us for, for saying that we don't support Israel. Something that Charlie was passionately against, okay? And we can show you next week clips of him hosting the debate about speech and Israel and whether or not everything was antisemitism. And he was very clear in his perception that this is going to increase anti-Semitism trying to pass speech laws or leaving people anti-Semites for criticizing BB net and Yahoo. It's all out there and they're lying to you. Am I wrong For am, am I cynical for believing that? Yeah, the Feds are obviously lying and I would say at some level, in a very big way were involved in the death of Charlie because they wanted this sort of radical way to push through laws.

1 (38m 36s):
When something chaotic happens, we usually turn to the government. I mean nine 11, what did we do? We gave them so much power, right? The Patriot Act do whatever, just keep me safe. It's like they, they see your emotion, they see this global emotion and they want you to just agree with them that the next step is more power for the government. And this time we're saying no, no, Pam Bondi, no thank you. Genuinely. Why are you in office? How can this administration pretend that they are the same administration that they were in 2016 that were fighting against this, the same administration that was going, oh well, the George Floyd death Radical Dems, BLM speech loss. It was wrong when the left did it, and it's wrong now that the right is doing it.

1 (39m 16s):
Which leads me to believe that we are fighting opposite sides of the same coin. It's us versus them, the elites versus the rest of us. That's it. Everything else is a mirage. And speaking of free speech, I wanna speak about Jimmy Kimmel because he has been pulled off air indefinitely over his comments in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination. So let's take a listen to what Jimmy Kimmel said on his show.

14 (39m 41s):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger pointing, there was grieving on Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level you can see how hard the president is taking this. I

15 (40m 5s):
Condolences on the lawsuit of your friend Charlie Kirk. May I ask sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir? I

16 (40m 12s):
Think very good. And by the way, right there you see all the trucks, they've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get as you know, for about 150 years and it's gonna be a beauty.

14 (40m 26s):
Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief, construction, demolition construction. This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a 4-year-old,

1 (40m 43s):
Okay? So that's what he said. Whether or not you think it it, it was a insensitive joke, okay? I don't think that that would have been the justification for saying that he now needs to donate to charity and lose his whole life. And this is what happened. He's, he's taken off air and some people are saying, Hey Canice, they did this to us and you're not wrong. Right? If you were on the right and you are saying that when the whole George Floyd thing happened, people lost their jobs for saying sensible things or making a joke. You are correct. Like you are right to say yes, that absolutely did happen. But if you're not recognizing that when you just flip the coin, it's the same people that are gaining more power.

1 (41m 27s):
I just want the attacks on free speech to stop. Okay? I want the reaction. If you're angry about what Jimmy Kimmel said, it's for the free markets to take him out, right? He doesn't have a show because nobody's watching him anymore because they're so disgusted by what he said. That's what I want. I want us to be in control, right? Of where we spend our dollars of what we're saying and not like the government to pass a but press a button and say you lose everything because we don't like what you said. And it should be noted by the way that in the same monologue he did call the murder senseless the day that it happened, Jimmy Kimmel posted a message on Instagram sending love to the Kirk family, to the victims of gun violence. He posted, you know, instead of the angry finger pointing, can we just for one day agree that it's, that it's horrible and monstrous to shoot another person on behalf of my family.

1 (42m 13s):
We send love to the Kirks and to all the children, parents and innocents who fall victim to senseless gun violence. You wouldn't have thought that he had posted that in, in terms of everyone that we're just like s strip him of everything. And I wanna be clear, I don't like Jimmy Kimmel, right? I I think he is a part of the radical left. The people that are constantly shouting, making, I don't like him at all, but I'm just recognizing that our, our solution to being angry at each other always seems to be let's give the government more power, right? Let's give the the government more power. And that's what happened here, okay? The chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, Brendan Carr jumped up and he criticized Jimmy Kimmel's remarks, he threatened federal action against a BC affiliates who carried the show.

1 (43m 1s):
What Federal action. If you carry the Jimmy Kimmel Show, does that seem right to you? Okay. Again, if you're on the right and you cheered this on, do you understand we never ever, ever should be applauding federal action when it comes to speech. Okay? We're all losing, we are all losing. You have to wake up. That's what happened. Brendan Carr of the FCC was joining Benny Johnson and that's, that's what he said, that he absolutely wants to make sure that people are not carrying this show anymore. And that after, you know, one of the mergers that they did, I just see the same people are constantly being empowered.

1 (43m 42s):
And I wanna point that out to you because you have to be more conscious of that. It's like they use our emotions left versus right to manipulate all of us and it's completely wrong and it's completely crazy. And they're also calling for him to make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and turning point USA What? That's, that's, that's a shakedown. That's what they did to Kyrie Irving. I don't like what you said. Donate to the Holocaust Museum. What? I can't cheer this on guys, I'm sorry I can't cheer this on because I don't like it. I know for a fact as I just showed you that this was Charlie's fear, the government coming in on speech, that's what's happening right now. They're taking over our speech under the guise of fighting hate TikTok.

1 (44m 22s):
By the way, did you guys see this? Israel's pretty much taken over TikTok as nor way to say it. Mark Andreessen in on a deal with, I think it's a silver, silver capital. What is it? Not silver, silver Lake. They're all coming together and we knew this was gonna happen. This whole fake canceled TikTok, no TikTok was going pro-Palestine and a bunch of hedge fund, hedge fund people who are pro-Israel got involved. Trump pretended that he was gonna rescue speech. No, he's handing it over to Israel. Okay, wake up, you're a Trump supporter. Wake up. Okay? He has handed so much over to Israel and he is about to hand over the keys to our speech. All that aside.

1 (45m 3s):
All that aside, I do want to shout out to all the creators that are making me laugh. Let's use our speech while we're still allowed to have it. And you also have to remember, Charlie wanted us to be happy warriors. So while we are fighting for truth, while we are fighting for transparency, we we should remember that we should laugh and we should be happy. And the clips that you guys are making regarding how the feds think that we speak after that ridiculous made up text chain between Tyler Robinson and his lover Lance, they're hilarious. Your tiktoks and the videos are hilarious. I'm gonna show you just one here. This is Chris Olson at Chris Olson. He's actually over on Instagram.

1 (45m 43s):
Take a listen.

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Good day my love. I've just committed one of the highest sins of the Lord murder. I must flee the country now in my vehicle. I've hidden the weapon, it was mine. I won't see you for a very long time unless you come with me. If not, I'll see you after the war. My Lord.

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1 (46m 42s):
Why is that so accurate? What went wrong? FBI, what went wrong? Speak to us. Let us help you. You guys just old like what's going on? I actually think there was a person on TikTok and I hate to not credit them but I genuinely don't remember what handle it was. I was just scrolling through. But he suggested that what went wrong was that they did use AI and in their AI prompt they said to create a conversation between 20 year olds or like a conversation between 20 year olds. But they actually wrote like the AI understood it as like not people in their twenties, but like people in the twenties, like the 1920s.

1 (47m 24s):
And I was like, that actually could have been what went wrong. They prompted AI and they said between people in their twenties and actually they wrote people in the twenties and they just went with it. And that's why you have this Hello my love. Like it's so bad. It's a major blunder. It's very bad blunder you guys. But I'm happy it happened because everything's coming undo. We're exposing everything. We're gonna figure out everything and I feel good about that. So yeah, that's, that's what I'm doing this weekend in Memorial of Charlie Kirk. I'm gonna keep investigating every single lead until I solve his murder.

1 (48m 4s):
What are you doing? What are you doing? Good. Some of your comments. Also, I wanna respond to some of you guys that were emailing us about the the Dairy Queen photo. We were like, this is an old photo. It could be from July. There's a poster Superman. I'll explain to you why the poster, that picture was definitely not taken in

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1 (50m 11s):
Alright, let's get into some of your comments. First, I wanna tell you guys the Dairy Queen photo. Some of you guys noticed that there was this old Superman poster and that Superman in the background there, that poster, you said it it, they removed those ads back in June or July. You are correct. That's when that movie came out and that's when they were scheduled to remove those ads. But rest assured, First and foremost for two reasons that that is not, definitely is not footage from July. July. Just so you guys understand, there is not a place in the world that would have the bandwidth to keep 24 hour footage inside of their restaurant dating back months. It auto deletes.

1 (50m 51s):
I think the footage at my house, 'cause we have cameras absolutely everywhere. I think it's like every 48 hours, every 72 hours. I think the highest you might see that is one week. This is absolutely, by the way, how would that person have known to go back to July? Could you imagine having to scroll the footage and be like, I think I one time saw that person in July eating something here. Let's go back and scroll. Like that's just, that definitely did not happen. The source we had was very solid. It was very specific. And also saying that they threw away clothed and, and the nearby cemetery was very specific. This person was very confident when they shared it, but also in something else that lets you date it to pull back up, that photo is behind, right?

1 (51m 33s):
They're advertising available. Now what that actually is, is a, and I gotta remember the name of it, it's, I don't know why it didn't write sound like a maple leaf blizzard thing. It's Maple Leaf, something that dropped and they began using those advertisements for that drink on August 31st. So the absolute earliest that could have been taken is August 31st. And that's if they put up that advertisement immediately. Yes, the Maple cookie shake, that's what it was. They began advertising on August 31st. So it's not from July. And like I said, I feel very confident about our source and we are taking a look at everything. You guys have sent me so much more by the way, which I'm gonna get into this weekend in memorial of Charlie Kirk about the house next door, some weird stuff that was happening at that house.

1 (52m 21s):
What has been advertised at that vacant house where the locals believe that's the real place that the shooter went to. And people are telling me a lot of stuff about CIA action at UVU, some programs that they had been running, that there's a pipeline from people at UVU to people that go and work for the CIA. So there's a lot to investigate, but I also wanna be given the time to fact check everything so that we don't go after the wrong people. Again, if you have any tips, any photos, you know where to send them, Candace, I mean that's not right. Don't send it there. Tips at Candace Owens dot com and yeah, for those of you guys who have supported this, thank you so much.

1 (53m 1s):
Like I said yesterday and the day before, we see you in the comments fighting for us. And I will say it is a good thing they're attacking this hard. It's actually waking more people up. People are watching my show, watching them lie, debunking their lives and going, okay, why did they do that? Like why? Why would PBD do that? Like we've always been friends friendly. He was very kind to me. I've always been kind to him. Why just allow these people to lie? There's so many lies just in that one segment. It's stunning to me. Even when he says Andrew Covet was there in the Hamptons. No he wasn't. Andrew Colt was definitely not there in the Hamptons. What are you lying about? Very strange. Is there like, are you being paid to lie or do you actually believe those lies? I don't know.

1 (53m 43s):
But all I know is that I'm not gonna get distracted by them. We are going to solve the murder of my friend Charlie Kirk. And if you guys would like to support us, we are independent. As I tell you, you can sign up at our website, Candace Owens dot com, buy yourself this. This is pretty bomb. Yep. Our CIA line, this is the Candace Intelligence Agency. Some people think that it actually says like CIA decentralized intelligent agency. I love it. Our products are great and that's the way that you can just so show support and show some love. In the meantime, let's just bop some Kanye power this weekend. Hey, I'm gonna hit him up. That's what we're gonna do. I'll see you guys on Monday.

9/18/25
EXCLUSIVE! Another Photo Of Tyler Robinson | Candace Ep 238


0 (1s):
All right you guys, let's take a pause. There is a lot happening right now. Okay. Bibi Netanyahu is AGAIN denying that he murdered Charlie Kirk despite the fact that no one that I know accused him of doing such a thing. Is that normal for state leader of a foreign country to have to twice deny that on national television. We also have Bill Ackman, who is sending his press hounds on me. There's no other way to say it. He's also dropping text messages that prove nothing. And a guy named Eric Bowling is just lying through his teeth on PBD, the PBD podcast to establish this narrative, which for some reason, every major publication is now running with that.

0 (47s):
I haven't spoken to Charlie Kirk in years. That is all happening right now. Not because I'm lying, but because we are choosing to stay focused on solving the murder of Charlie Kirk. And what we are uncovering is much darker than I think any of us could have possibly imagined. So Welcome back to Candace. We are pulling all of us together, and I'm going, I don't even know where to begin. And I guess we should just start with one of many explosive discoveries thanks to all of you guys.

0 (1m 30s):
By the way, anonymous sources invested in the story wanting to get to the truth happening, that gut instinct that something is not right. So we've been wondering, yesterday, I was also doing a set, an Instagram series of pulling everybody into what doesn't make sense about the changing of the clothes that Tyler Robinson allegedly did. And we've been wondering why it seems that the feds were only willing to release a grainy image of Tyler Robinson from the day of the shooting, despite the tech stack that UVU campus has, right? There's no images that we can see that have been released of his Dodge Challenger that's supposed to be idling nearby the campus for a very long time, right?

0 (2m 14s):
If he's, as he texted these fed messages, him and Lance are texting and he's telling him every second minute by minute what he's done. And he mentioned that the cops have done a sweep. Remember, Tyler is supposed to be a babysitting the gun in that moment, waiting for the right moment to go back and quote unquote retrieve his weapon. But he sees a, and I'm not kidding, quote unquote squad car. That's what he writes, right? He writes, I can get close to it, but there is a squad car parked right by it. Squad car, okay? Yeah. No. How many times do you call a police car, a squad car?

0 (2m 56s):
Do you wanna know? Who calls it a squad car? Someone on the squad? Well, that's how that works. Yeah, but that's what Tyler Wright squad car elsewhere in this correspondence, and by the way, thanks to one of you people who commented on yesterday's episode and pointed this out to me, but elsewhere, Tyler says something that only a woman would say. That's why I didn't flag me as weird when I was reading this. And it flagged me as odd. He says to Lance, allegedly quote, I worry about Prince. I had to leave it referring to the rifle in a bush where I changed outfits. Wait, changed outfits. Somebody commented, men don't say outfits. That's a woman thing.

0 (3m 37s):
Okay? Yeah, yeah, that's true. I would say I changed my outfit. A man does not say, you just say you changed clothes. You would not say an outfit. Outfit is very girly. Okay, so is this AI or is this a female fed that put these messages together? We're not feeling like it's Tyler Robinson, that's for sure. Now, another question we ask is, is, is if there is this much available footage, why not to relieve everybody to make us feel like this is not a federal operation? Why not just release anything to the public? Well, the reason is because according to locals, many of which have emailed me any of the footage that they had, any footage that they found, they immediately sent over to the feds, and the feds told them that they were not allowed to share it at all.

0 (4m 21s):
Like there was some risk if you shared this at all, it's not gonna be good for you. Like they are kind of being pressured by the Feds not to share things publicly. And that's why I would say nine 10 is beginning to remind me of nine 11, right? The Feds sweep through everything to make sure that they have all of the footage so that no one can question the narrative that they put out. It makes me think, you know, how long did it take before they were willing to show us any footage of the alleged giant Boeing plane that hit the Pentagon Building? We weren't allowed to see that for a very long time. I think someone actually in Congress had to fight to get any footage released. And you had people that were saying, no, it was a missile.

0 (5m 2s):
Well, they, they swept everything nearby. So that's what this is kind of reminding me of a fed sweep. They pretend that they want more information, but in reality they wanna make sure that they have all of the information, all of the footage, that they can control the narrative. Except sometimes things don't go as planned, because before people realize they have anything, or maybe when they're trying to reach out to the feds, they're texting a friend who texts a friend. And the next thing you know, the whole neighborhood in all of Orum has something. And this is what happened. Something made its way around the entire town and into my tips line repeatedly, it is a very clear image of Tyler Robinson allegedly taken, I'll say allegedly for safety here, but it's looking right according to my timeline, allegedly taken at 6:38 PM at a nearby dairy queen.

0 (5m 54s):
Here is that photo that we can show you. Just take a look at this photo. What is wrong with this picture? A lot is wrong with this picture. First and foremost, 6:38 PM you just shot someone. You have gone through great pains to hide your face, to change your outfit, but wait, you didn't fully change your outfit, did you? I'm looking at this photo and you're wearing jeans and you're wearing the maroon shirt. Now we have a 50 50 combo of the outfits and now you're showing your eyes and you, you're not fearful at all that you might be recognized also. Wow, you must have quite the stomach. You don't have a record. Next thing you know, you shoot someone and you're like, I'm just gonna go have a meal.

0 (6m 34s):
You don't seem to be too shaken or too upset. Something problematic is, is a location, by the way, we match this out, it's about 15 minutes away from the campus at a time when we're told that he's idling by babysitting the rifle. So you can see we're showing you, it's about 17 minute drive away from the campus. So is there, there should be a lot of footage then of of this Dodge Challenger driving back and forth, okay? And like I said, the biggest thing that jumps at me is he looks kind of content there. So he's gotta be a full blown psychopath wearing half of what the feds told us he was wearing in the morning and half of what the feds told us that he was wearing during the shooting.

0 (7m 21s):
Okay? So why did he text in this exchange at all and say that he changed outfits when you have just said, I changed my t-shirt. If that's the reality, you just changed your t-shirt and that was enough. Was it? Was it just a t-shirt that he changed the outfit again, as I sensed yesterday, has always been problematic. I feel the outfit was the fed mistake. It never made any sense to say that he wore an outfit onto campus like khaki shorts and a maroon shirt and then decided to completely change hours later. Because why wouldn't you just change the T-shirt? That actually makes more sense. Every kid wears blue jeans.

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You don't have to like change blue jeans or change out of khaki shorts to avoid detection. That's not gonna go, Hey, we're stopping you because you're wearing blue jeans. That's not a thing. It would make much more sense if he had just changed his t-shirts. And like I said yesterday, if you were gonna change at all, why did you have to leave campus to do that? And shouldn't the cameras have caught you? Either way, you take a totally different route. Again, there's cameras everywhere, so we can now plot this change, this alleged Dairy queen stop onto our timeline, right? We can see that right there.

0 (8m 42s):
We were very accurate when we started getting really serious about looking at a timeline, like a clean timeline. We said the first correspondence that allegedly took place between these two had to have taken place between Tyler and Lance after 6:00 PM Well, there we go. 6:38 PM we get this confirmed photo, or I should say, I shouldn't say a confirmed photo, an alleged photo of Tyler Robinson buying food at Dairy Queen off campus on the other side of town. And that's where we can assume, I mean, campus is supposed to be on lockdown. We're supposed to be, is this supposed to be a manhunt? That's where we can assume these text messages or at this, around this time where Tyler Robinson is signifying that he's close to the scene of the crime.

0 (9m 25s):
That's where we should be able to find more vehicle, more footage of his vehicle. Maybe you are a shop along this way near that Dairy Queen and you should check your footage to see if around this time, 6 38 or else that you, you saw a Dodge Challenger go by source tells me that they saw him dropping well near this Dairy Queen, that there's a cemetery and he was dropping clothes into that cemetery. Now we have not gotten anything from the feds about where the clothing was dropped off, where he changed nothing. My question then is what is going on? My suspicion I maintain is that there are multiple people that are involved and after receiving this, that suspicion is growing.

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Okay? Like I said, unless that man is a cold-blooded killer, he just seems to be a ladi da eating some Dairy Queen and it's not making sense. Now, there is something that a, another local told me that the locals are discussing that they believe actually took place. And it rings a lot truer to me, a lot truer than anything that I've heard thus far from the feds. And I'm gonna tell you that in a moment. But first I started, I decided to, to sort of hyper focus on the doorbell cam footage, right? Because that mysteriously made its way to TMZ the morning after Charlie's assassination. Can we actually, what time did that footage make its way, just So I can take a look?

0 (10m 53s):
I'm gonna go on to day two here. When did TMZ release the footage? Well, I don't know exactly the exact day they released the footage. I think it was their footage said that at 8:07 AM TMZ is the first on September 10th. That tells us that there is doorbell cam footage. But I actually wanna see when TMZ released it. So can you just put a note for me, Skylar, that I wanna look up when TMZ announced it? I feel like it was in the morning. Okay. And So I started asking myself like, where did that footage come from? Right? We should, we should look into that. Let me just say this right away. As a rule, when a tragedy happens, I don't love the people who have the instinct to immediately speak to the press after a tragedy.

0 (11m 34s):
What I mean to say is that imagine you, you're on campus somewhere, a shooting happens, students are screaming, they're running, somebody is dead. I feel that a normal person's instinct is to make sure their loved ones are okay and their immediate vicinity, make sure they are okay, obviously. And then to call and alert everyone who would be concerned that you're okay, right? Maybe your mom sex you, like you're gonna get on the phone first with like your mom and dad. You're not gonna get on the phone with TMZ, you're not gonna get on the, you're gonna speak to the press first. I don't think so. So it's always a good question when you sense that something is wrong. As I very much sense right now with the Charlie Kirk assassination, to go back and reflect on who opened up to the press with information.

0 (12m 20s):
Look, if you've been a long time listener of the show, the mainstream media has been controlled by the CIA since Operation Mockingbird. And So I addressed that question. Who is it that gave the footage to TMZ? Why TMZ? Whose instincts would it be to give the footage to TMZ? If you're really just a person living out in Utah surprised by everything, why are you giving it to like TMZ, which covers celebrity gossip out of Hollywood, right? The New York Post that's not supposed to be a local paper, a local news source. Why would you hit up the New York Post? Which Utah citizen thought of TMZ first?

0 (13m 0s):
Was it them or was it the feds? Well, we were able to stalk that, okay? We were able, because gratefully the individual, one of the individuals who owned the house spoke to a local news station the day after the morning after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. His name you're gonna see is Irwin Steele. Let's watch that footage of Irwin Steele. The next morning,

2 (13m 24s):
Kathy Beckel led us to her backyard. She says police searched this area for the suspected gunman and his weapon just a few streets over. Irwin Steele was another neighbor who was met with officers in his front yard.

3 (13m 36s):
It was scary. It's, it's, I know it's been said many times, but this is a safe place. This is a calm place. We're right next to, you know, the largest university in the state. But at the same time, they're generally good people. Steele

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Says they're helping authorities by giving them any footage they have on their outdoor cameras, but he says it's still startling to know the gunman could have been so close to their homes. People,

3 (14m 0s):
We have students going up and down the street all day long and it's never been a threat to our safety. And so for something like this to happen is, it's shocking. It's, it's really shocking.

0 (14m 14s):
Seems like a good, good guy. I had no beef with him immediately. Actually, I was wondering why were we ever told that it was doorbell cam footage obviously was not doorbell cam footage. It's too high, hence, you know, the height of the footage in general. Secondly, like I said, this clip is from the morning after Charlie Kirk's assassination. So TMZ had already publicized that footage. And so that strikes me as a little odd that would stipulate that either the feds, like I said, collected that footage the night before and then he immediately gave it to TMZ. Or this guy himself gave it to TMZ before he gave it to the feds. So we're looking into Irwin and we, we find that he doesn't just co-own just that one house on the streets with somebody else named Samuel Steele, but he, Samuel and his wife Carrie are the ones that own the house that gave the footage, not Irwin, but Irwin is saying that he lives in that house.

0 (15m 9s):
But actually we found some other steals that live in that house. And I'm wondering, okay, that seems a little bit confusing. Maybe you're all family, you just go, okay, well we kind of own all of these houses, whatever. But that strikes me as a little bit odd. I decided to look a little bit further to see like what it was that he was in. Like, you know what, what business is your family in? And it turns out that they are a, they work for an engineering place, a place that makes, called Caldera Engineering. It's a company called Caldera Engineering. And ostensibly they manufacture valves. Okay? Now that stood out to me because I just find that the manufacturing of valves keeps coming up when I look into certain people.

0 (15m 54s):
'cause you know, I'm all about the genealogy and I could name three people that I got curious about whose family manufacturers valves. I don't know if that's a big business out in Utah. Also in Canada, when I was looking into Harley, pastor Nick, that's exactly what his family did. They were in piping and valves. And I'm going, okay, whatever a local source told me that virtually everyone on that block works for that company. The steals are a, a big family in Orum. Okay, fine. And it's like, yeah, that's something that our source, we have a very good source said that whole block is, is pretty much employees of that engineering company, caldera, okay, just put that in the back of my mind, looking for some other witnesses.

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I decided witnesses pertaining to Tyler Robinson we're we found. We have a second witness and her account is kind of confusing to me and I'm gonna tell you why. First and foremost, her last name also happens to be Steele. But this one witnessed something four hours away. Her name is Sherry Steele and she spoke to the BBC about how she had witnessed the police swarm, the townhouse of Tyler Robinson and Lance while she was walking her dog in the evening. Here is what she says. I'm gonna read it directly here from the article. This is from the article. It reads Sherry Steele, who lives across the street from the residence, came back from an evening walk to see a large police presence in a video that she showed the BBC.

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For some reason the BBC is not publishing this video. A loud voice, which she said belongs to the authorities, can be heard shouting, freeze, and come out. Now it just kind of blows your mind coming up the street and all of a sudden there are helicopters above your house. Ms. Steele said adding that she had never spoken to Mr. Robinson. Okay, couple of things that don't work about the testimony to me, First and foremost doesn't work with my timeline. I really care about my timeline here. Okay? She says she's walking her dog in the evening. We are told by the feds, well 33 hours should have been nighttime, right? Their 33 hours should have been 9:00 PM is when Tyler Robinson, they that turned himself in.

0 (18m 10s):
But then we found out from other sources that actually it was more like 7:00 PM You know, feds are saying 33 hours, that's 9:00 PM certainly wouldn't describe it as an evening walk with your dog at that time. And by the way, at that time, according to our source, they didn't move at all. Okay? We're supposed to believe that it was overnight that they brought in Lance. And then according to Lance's own family, it was overnight that they, after bringing Lance in around 11:00 PM ish, right? And then overnight is when they then swarm the household and then go through everything.

0 (18m 52s):
So what's going on here? Second thing about Sherry Steels, I can't find her. We stalked, we looked through databases, we contacted Atlantis family to see if they're familiar with that name. I cannot find a woman named Sherry Steele that lives in that building complex. Nor can I find her alleged footage that the BBC mentions the following morning. I don't just putting that out there, but let's move on because there are gonna be two more steels this time. Minor children. We do know according to the indictment, that there were children that witnessed that were there for the shooting. And these children, like I said, are going to provide an eyewitness testimony to Charlie Kirk's shooting.

0 (19m 34s):
And they are with their Aunt Tiffany. And they say that they saw what happened up close. And I believe you're gonna hear them say that they were a family of 16. So like I said, my source says there are a ton of steals that are in Orem. Here is what these particular steals told. Good Morning America. In the early hours following Charlie's assassination, like the next day, take a listen. We're

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Joined now by Tiffany Barker and our nieces L Steele and Mia Grant, who were all in the audience yesterday afternoon. Thank you for joining us this morning. I know it's been a difficult day for all of you right now. And Tiffany, let me begin with you. Just tell us what you remember about the scene yesterday.

5 (20m 21s):
It was horrific. There was one shot that rang out and everybody instantly looked around and then fell to the ground. People saw Charlie instantly get shot in the neck and everybody fell to the ground. And then people started running and got run over. And I was with my family who had 16 of us there. So five adults and like 11 children. And we instantly got separated. We're trying to find everybody and we had amazing good Samaritans that grabbed kids. One took my niece and took her to her apartment. Somebody grabbed these two and my daughter and took them over to the tennis courts and stayed with them until I came.

5 (21m 1s):
It was a super awful tragedy and there were really good people that stood up and supported each other and it was actually really powerful to see that.

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Alan May, I can't imagine how scared you must have been yesterday. What can you tell us about what you all remember Elle, you go first.

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So I remember hearing this thing, I didn't, it was hard to like know what it was, but then I saw it and I saw blood everywhere and it hit his artery. And then I just, we fell to, I fell to the ground, I covered my, my head with my hands and then I just started saying a prayer. And then we all ran, we sprinted away and we ran into, like, we ran away to, and then we met at the tennis courts and I couldn't, and then we couldn't find anyone. It was just me, Mia, and then my other cousin Bella. And then we, and then we were calling everyone, we didn't know what to do.

6 (22m 4s):
And then we finally met up with them and it was just so scary.

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I'm sure Mia,

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I remember that we were like 15 feet away and I thought like the shot was like a firecracker or something. I just, it just didn't seem real. After that, we went like behind where Charlie Kirk was and then we were meeting up at the tennis courts and trying to find everyone and get everyone together. And Charlie Kirk was such a good guy, I'm gonna miss him so much. I've always watched all of his videos and

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You know, I can't imagine what you all went through.

7 (22m 45s):
America's gonna miss Charlie Kirk.

4 (22m 46s):
Can't imagine what you went through yesterday. Thanks for sharing your stories this morning.

0 (22m 51s):
Okay, So I was just interested in the family more broadly speaking. I can tell you the family's very heavily involved in politics. That woman that you are looking at, her father was a businessman, turned councilman, sister ran for lieutenant governor. They're also featured in another incident. She kind of pops in the news a lot with a mayor. So by all, by all accounts asking locally, they're a good family. They're heavily involved in politics. But like the right side of politics, as I would say, as somebody who was a conservative I that I think that was kind of maybe stripped there trying to learn more about these individuals. For me personally, I don't love the idea that this time the killer is still on the loose.

0 (23m 36s):
Like they had nothing at this time. And I'm, I'm just going like, who would allow their kids back onto that campus that survived a shooting and to, to go speak to the news the next day when the killer was so on a loose. But I don't need to, I guess, judge the actions of parents. What I do know is we're not getting the full story, okay? And I reached out to those individuals by the way. I asked them to speak with me. I want to learn more about what they witnessed. I want to learn more about what they say that they heard and what they, what they saw, what happened afterwards, what the setup there is on UVU campus, what time they went there. I want to know everything because I just spiritually know that more people are involved.

0 (24m 22s):
Okay? Now let me tell you something about what the locals are theorizing. And like I said, it's the first thing that has made sense to me. Okay? They are telling me that something, which you'll recall the first people that got out the map of everywhere to look, and this is where the shooter walked and this is what happened. And you know, here's our diagram of where everything took place and he ran to the woods and he grabbed the gun. But we're not really getting too many details about where he got that gun from. We're just kind of told in the woods. And this person tells me, actually the gun was found in the backyard of someone that I know.

0 (25m 4s):
We all know each other. And it was found by a, a chicken coop, like you could describe it as a wooded area, but you know, it's pretty suburban here. And it was found by her chicken coop. The locals are theorizing. Again, we have no proof of this, but this is their, what they are saying is that no, they're not being honest about the fact that the house right next door to where the gun was found is a mysteriously vacant, vacant home that is owned by the university itself. And that that is where they believe that the true shooter ran to following the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

0 (25m 45s):
They think, and again, they're floating a theory here that Tyler Robinson was instructed to merely drop off his gun, okay? Walks onto campus to simply drop off his gun at the Chick chicken coop place. So I'm gonna show you that. Do we have a map of that vacant property and where the gun location is found? And he says you'd have to be an insider to know that the general direction that that person is running, even though they're very close similarly would lead him to the vacant home that we've all kind of had questions about. You know, it's kind of been vacant for a while and actually where the gun is found, it's, it's just two different places. So he's, his theory is that Tyler Robinson, and this would definitely align with our decoy boy, right?

0 (26m 30s):
I did it, I did it. Oh, actually it turns out that I have child pornography is that Tyler and Lance could have gotten mixed up in some deep internet stuff, which makes sense because as we have learned, Lant is deep on the web and that they were actually instructed maybe, maybe they're getting outta the situation again, we are in full theory zone. I'm telling you what I'm hearing from locals. This is not Candace Owens, this theory, but this would make more sense to me that these were just guys that said, okay, if we found something weird on your, on your camera or weird on your, on your laptop, here's what you're gonna have to do to get outta this. Maybe, maybe, maybe they're being blackmailed or threatened or you're gonna go to prison for a very long time.

0 (27m 10s):
What you're gonna do is you're gonna take this weapon, you're gonna walk this weapon, and you're gonna leave this weapon right here, okay? And that's it. Then you're gonna busy yourself elsewhere around and we will tell you what to do next. That's their theory about Tyler Robinson. Okay? And that then the real shooter is an entirely different person who actually went into what they would describe to be a safe house of sorts. Bring it out there. And I can tell you that we are now prodding that narrative and asking if you are a person who has any footage and you have been instructed not to give any footage whatsoever, I don't know, I, I, I, I can't understand it.

0 (27m 53s):
If you own the property, it's yours. I don't know how they can tell you it's not yours anymore. Since don't forget, governor Cox said, it's all wrapped up. It's over. We've got him move on. I don't see how you showing us a Dodge charger that you saw driving by would be problematic. So yeah, if you know anything, police email tips at Candace Owens dot com. We are going to get to the BB that doth protest too much in just a moment. First, gonna throw it to some of our sponsors.

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0 (31m 9s):
I mean, I'm telling you guys, I've been through a lot of media attacks. I have, I've been, I mean, you name it, I've been through it. This is another level, okay? This is like, it, it, it's like there's a thirst there that I've never seen. I, they are all parroting the same talking points. They're clearly collaborating. I can tell you it's a Zionist attack. I just, I've, I've lived through enough of them. This is what they're like and they all kind of say the same thing, slightly different. And the idea is to pile up and hope. And if people keep seeing the same thing, they'll just believe it's true. And of course BB net and yahoo defending BB net and Yahoo seems to be at the center of it all that Zionist control a lot of publications in America.

0 (31m 53s):
That is just a reality. We can even go through that. It's a little weird that I have never said throughout discussing this case, which I care very much about that BB net and Yahoo murdered Charlie Kirk. Kirk Carlson never said that. Megan Kelly never said that. The Dave Smith never said that. Instead, what we are doing is we are disputing Bibi Netanyahu's narrative that him and Charlie were on great terms and really friendly. He had just invited him out and here's this love letter Charlie wrote. He heavily implied that and he was saying way too much too fast and too soon that didn't feel right. And we just wanted the truth to be out there. I don't know who specifically came out and said that Bebe killed Charlie Kirk, but now that he's for the second time denying that he is, people are going, what's actually going on here?

0 (32m 41s):
This is weird. When Charlie Kirk was assassinated, I didn't feel compelled to come out and make two videos to tell people that I didn't kill him. That would be weird. Like you would be like Candace, that's very strange. Why do you feel like you need to say that? If Tyler Carlston had to make two videos saying I didn't kill kill Charlie Kirk, you would go, that's weird. Me and Kelly, I didn't kill Charlie Kirk. Why would she do that? Of course she didn't kill Charlie Kirk. Well, Bibi has come out, like I said with his second statement and we can listen to it. Take a listen.

10 (33m 11s):
Joseph Bels, the Nazi propaganda minister said that the bigger the lie, the faster it will spread while somebody is fabricated. A monstrous big lie that Israel had something to do with Charlie Kirk's horrific murder. This is insane. It is false, it is outrageous. Charlie Kirk was a giant, a once in a century talent who defended freedom defended America, defended our common Judeo-Christian civilization. Charlie loved Israel, he loved the Jewish people. He told me. So in the letter that he sent me just a few months ago, one of my greatest joys as a Christian, he said, is advocating for Israel and forming alliances with Jews to protect Judeo-Christian civilization.

10 (33m 58s):
He encouraged me to make the case directly to the American people about how vital Israel is to US national security. He told me the holy land is So important to my life. It pains me to see support for Israel slip away. Now if Charlie disagreed with the policy of mine or a decision here and there, not only did I not mind, I welcomed it. This is the essence of Charlie. This is the essence of a free country. It's exactly what Charlie stood for. And I knew that his suggestions always came from the heart, from his love for Israel and from his love for the Jewish people. A few weeks before his death, I spoke to Charlie, I invited him to visit Israel again.

10 (34m 40s):
And sadly that won't happen. Now some are peddling these disgusting rumors, perhaps out of obsession, perhaps with Qatari funding. What I do know is this, Charlie Kirk was a great man and a great man deserves honor, not lies. Rest in peace. Charlie Kirk, may your memory be a blessing.

0 (35m 7s):
I don't know guys, that is really propaganda just ain't hitting the same. I it's just not hitting the same. I feel like it had like it was hitting in 2018, but like this is just not hitting gaza's. Not helpful. You talking about a free country, Gaza just kind of being bombarded because you wanna make a beach side place vacation for your friends. It's not feeling good. And we can see what you're doing. We do know you are a cold-blooded murderer looking at what's happening in Gaza. There's no question about that. How many kids have been murdered? Okay? And you're again saying too much. I don't know why you don't seem to be able to get through a speech without lying or implying a lie.

0 (35m 50s):
Who specifically, Bebe is funded by Qatar. Maybe don't. Just maybe Qatar. In fact, you are the one, your administration is the one that has been under investigation for taking money from the Qataris. It was actually related to the Gaza. So, and what you were gonna do with Gaza thereafter. So why are you saying that about Americans? If we, if we were taking money from guitar, wouldn't be a problem according to your administration and your cronies. So what's this about? I was so hopeful that you would be able to get through that speech without mentioning the Holocaust. But that was kind of the opening liner. Joseph Geral said, bro, Joseph Bels has nothing on the Zionist in America and the propaganda that they have pushed.

0 (36m 32s):
I gotta tell you, that's the reality. Okay, let's go before him. Let's go to Sigmund Freud. How you guys created the system of propaganda. Who's the real father of modern propaganda? Okay, it's the Freud family. We're awake to this. We see what you guys are doing and you're not making people feel comfortable with the fact that you keep coming out to have to deny something that certainly wasn't asserted by me on this program. And you're doubling down on your lie. I told you to publish the full letter that Charlie wrote you not lines of it. Okay? A lie by omission. And to stop mentioning the fact that you invited him to Israel just two weeks ago without mentioning the fact that he declined to go, am I lying?

0 (37m 13s):
Can anybody actually work and assert that I am lying? You say it, you can say my name Candace Owens lied. Charlie said, I, I'd love to go to Israel. Charlie said, I'd love to have you have my on my radio show. And I, for some reason that seems to be a common theme that they have sent the hounds out, but they're unable to actually dispute the words that are coming out of my mouth. You know, bill Ackman extraordinarily. I said I will publish whatever it is that you say, bill, you can come on the program. We can talk about that trip to the Hamptons. He just kind of, which was, by the way, you guys on Instagram are so fun. I didn't even have to say anything you guys just saw right through it because we're all awake. He just, I guess, shared text messages with Charlie Kirk to dispel the claims of you see how it says blackmail in parentheses, but they put Israel, I never said Israel blackmailed him.

0 (38m 5s):
I never said that. Okay. And in fact, somebody that was at the Hamptons published a statement and said that Charlie said he felt morally blackmailed. Okay, so that doesn't help your case. But anyways, Blackman published these private text messages and I guess that just was supposed to dispel the idea that anything happened in the Hamptons. And yeah, actually what's missing from these messages are like a date, a context. And they don't dispel anything that I have asserted. Okay, so what's going on here? Then they trot this guy out, Eric Bowling. He goes on the PBD podcast and this is ju this should be embarra, like the amount of lies coming outta this man's mouth was astounding.

0 (38m 47s):
Okay? But they ran with the New York Post, right outfit of the Mossad outfit of the deep, deep state ran with it. Charlie Kirk had a breakup with Candace Owens as if we were dating, let's listen actually to what Eric Bowling had to say on the PBD podcast.

11 (39m 5s):
At some point, her credibility, I mean, is gonna go down the tubes because she needs to bring receipts. Bill Ackerman brought receipts. How long was that tweet? It's still going. I think he was there in the room. I'm still reading it. We're Andrew Colt was there in the room. You're on the board of Turning Point? Yeah. Okay. When's the last time you saw Candace Owens

12 (39m 25s):
In person? Yeah, 2015. Oh wow. 2016. Okay. Yeah. No, when's

11 (39m 29s):
The last time she was at a Turning Point

12 (39m 31s):
Event? Not in many years. Okay, but

11 (39m 33s):
So let's,

12 (39m 34s):
You don't even have to, without even being biased. There's a, there's a, there's is Candace even involved? There's in Shirley Kirk's life there no at all, no question proof that Candace Owens is nothing, has nothing to do. She would be in, in a perfect world if, if they didn't have this, what I already know is a, is a ver quiet breakup where she got too rabbit hole for him. He's just, she would be the logical heir to the TP USA throne. But she's not.

11 (40m 1s):
And no, she's not even

12 (40m 1s):
Invited. Correct. So this is, this is, so their divide is, wait a minute, not

11 (40m 5s):
Invited. Meaning, meaning she's not even there.

12 (40m 7s):
Yeah, she's not, she's not there. She's not one of the names that I Wait, you don't think she'll be at the funeral? No. No. Nos.

11 (40m 12s):
That's

12 (40m 12s):
The funeral. T

11 (40m 14s):
She doesn't speak at the events anymore. I mean,

0 (40m 18s):
So that's just what you, it's so good for this to happen because you guys are watching everything that I'm saying. And you can watch them lie Eric Bowling. I just don't even get this. How can you say that? I have not spoken at a Turning Point USA Conference in years. What? I literally went on tour with Turning Point USA on college campuses last year. Like I, that's, that's just incredible. You didn't know that I, that I went, I was on tour for Turning Point USA last year. You don't remember that happening at all? Okay, then I get fired from the Daily Wire Turning Point. USA is the first to issue a Christ King statement of support that I do. What was it? The YWLS conference right after that. So let's just actually bring this in. What you are referring to, which is kind of a part of the story that we're telling you, is that the Zionists started circling Charlie and trying to control things.

0 (41m 8s):
This was actually in the round September or whatever. And I was always very honest that Charlie and I had a conversation and they were putting pressure, if you can't talk to her, she's talking about Israel, blah. I said, Charlie, I am under so much fire right now. Do not even, I'm like, radioactive, don't even worry about the pros. I have to rebuild my whole life. I have to figure out how to get my podcast back on the road. I I don, I, I literally, I'm banned from Australia. 'cause I stood up to Zionist like I have so much going on. For me not to speak at Fest is nothing like that. Doesn't even beat anything. Save yourself. Okay? It means nothing to me. Tell them whatever you need them to tell them. And I'm going to focus on trying to rebuild my life because they also had to be canceled from YouTube.

0 (41m 51s):
Remember all that stuff? The end of last year, it was insane that I came back bigger and I came back stronger because at the end of the day, the truth will win against lies. That is, that's the message. And so the reality is that then they came inward. 'cause that's what Zionists do. They started putting more pressure on him. And this time they didn't want just Canis Owens. It was Tucker Carlson because Tucker went to Am Fest and then they said that can't happen again either. And Charlie started realizing which way this the wind was blowing. And in fact, in the very week that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, he was saying that he wanted me back on the roster. That's where his mindset was at. You cannot dispute any of this because it's real. This is then suddenly he gets a, a Schulman guy as the one that said, I want my name off of the building at Turning Point in the 48 hours leading up to his assassination, the couple of days leading up to assassination, they were squeezing him, trying to control who he was allowed to speak to.

0 (42m 47s):
And that started in real earnest, I can tell you in Q4 of last year. And then Charlie had had enough, and I've got a lot more that's gonna come out about what happened at Turning Point. It wasn't just that they were, was spiking the ball where they were spending the money. It was almost like they just wanted to take over the company that he had built and turn it into just another outfit of the Mossad. Like that's, that's the information that I have and I wanna make sure that I properly vet everything and go through everything. That's what it looks like and it's gonna come out. Okay. So your little talking points and the lies, people can look up and research and see that's, that's not true. And that's your big l ol point. Like, oh, well the proof of this is she's not speaking at Charlie's honoring Charlie event in Arizona.

0 (43m 31s):
And then, then they ask me these questions, they're like, when's the last time you, you spoke to Erica? Did have you attended a Charlie Kirk? What is it? Can you pull up the, the weird thing. They're all running with these talking points. The this is what we got from the Daily Mail. Is she planning to attend his memorial service in Arizona? Was she asked to speak or did she ask to be a part of the program? Why would I ask to be a part like, like this is obviously Erica is in like full control. I I would hope she's in full control, but I don't know because I'm hearing some stories about donors that are pushing things, but let's reopen that. More questions here. Has she attended any of the vigils for him? Is she planning to attend? Does she speak to Erica? When's the last time they spoke board member Eric Bowling.

0 (44m 12s):
By the way, he's not a board member. There thought have been a good fact check for you. PBD said that Charlie Kirk had a quiet breakup with Candace Owens after she got too far down the rabbit hole for him. Has there been any communication between if there hasn't been any communication between the two for many years? Just it's made up. It's just all made up. And like I said, the reason that they're doing this is because they want us to stop investigating the death of Charlie Kirk. I'm convinced this is a full blown fed operation. I'm hearing about the pressure that's even happening with, with planning this event. They're trying to make it seem like, oh my how dare she did if you, did you attend a vigil such with anything? No, actually I didn't attend a vigil and nope, you're right.

0 (44m 53s):
You got me. I was not invited to speak alongside President Trump and JD Vance on the stage with Tucker Carlson at a memorial event. What does this have to do with anything? The answer is it has to do with nothing. They're working on a narrative like they always do. They're coming in, they're squeezing and they're trying to pretend that Charlie and I didn't speak for years. It could not be further from the truth. Okay? Charlie and I never for a single second stop being friends ever, never happened. They can't, they can't produce one sort of evidence to that effect. Nope. Just donors and the donors at Turning Point need to be investigated because what I'm hearing, like I said from turning point sources is not good.

0 (45m 33s):
And guess what? If it's gotta be me and you need to hate me forever, that's totally fine. On top of that, talk about a federal operation out of nowhere regime Macron just lies. I don't even know how they got this in the press. This is like not a, this is so dumb. Jit Croda comes out and says they have offered scientific evidence to the US Court to prove that brat is a woman. That's what her lawyer says. Well, the lawyer's a liar because we haven't even started this case yet. So how could you have offered scientific proof to a court to prove you're a woman? Especially because you are not suing me over the claim that I said you were born a man, you were born a man. I guess you're born a, a, a boy, a male is what I should say.

0 (46m 15s):
You're born a male and you've never sued anybody from making that statement. You sue for things around it. You're suing me because you're saying, well you said I stole the identity from my sister. I'm not a thief. You've never sued anybody for the claim that you were born male. So I don't know what this is just like we're just gonna all how Candace to try to distract her from looking into Charlie Kirk's murder and assassination. But it's focusing me more. 'cause this is not normal. Like the amount of lying that is happening right now is because you don't think I'm strong enough to handle it and you're trying to break me. You're not gonna break me. Okay? I watched him catch a bullet in the throat and we're being lied to by everybody about who was involved, why it happened, and why you are attacking the people who are the person rather, who is trying to investigate it.

0 (47m 3s):
You're not a good friend. They say if you investigate this now they're running the how dare you get clicks for investigating it. What this is, this has been, this is my show. How dare you get clips for even talking about me talking about it. You morons. You guys think we're that stupid. How dare Candace get clicks as we get clicks off of Candace getting clicks? It's so asinine. You're so stupid. And the entire world is watching and that's what's problematic left and right. We are realizing something more sinister happened. We're not taking the MAGA bait. The dad maga, he's been more MAGA than ever some one of the commenters pointed out, why would the dad suddenly be more MAGA than ever?

0 (47m 43s):
Like what happened recently? Like we're in September. Like what happened that someone would commit themselves further to Trump, more MAGA than ever. In fact, it's been kind of the opposite. People think we're occupied by Zionists. More Maga people are going like, it seems like Trump has kind of given up on free speech and his administration seems to be controlled by BB net and Yahoo. So that doesn't ring true either. And then it's like, oh, over here a trance. The trance neither left and right. We're paying attention and we're looking up at who rules over us. And it's not a pretty picture. And we get to your guys' comments. Obviously we've just covered a lot here.

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All right, Steve Carrington, thank you for the 20 bucks. He writes that this is for the Ackman Fighting Fund and he's Yeah, but he won't sue because then he will get cross-examined and he won't risk it because perjury equals jail. I don't know, man. The fact that Brige is suing, this is what they do. Like I said, it's just what they do. You know, they've got people in their back pocket lawyers, corrupt lawyers doing their bidding. I mean, they created the system and then they mock us for participating in the system. Like I told you, bill Ackman, at this Hamptons retreat, according to one of the attendees, told them that they shouldn't even aspire to own a home and they should just give money to stocks. Like, okay, I'm sure you own no homes.

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They just wanna turn us all into slaves. Like truly. That's what I believe about the, the billionaire class of what they actually want out of us, which is just for us to work for forever and to own absolutely nothing. Krista Young, thank you for the donation. Candace, something is not right. Krista writes, you are going to uncover the truth. They messed up and we are here for it. Charlie said once, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. We don't know. No, but we know, so do not stop asking questions. Yeah, there, there is a reason they're doing this. They want like, oh, just not, not until, not until there's this memorial thing in Arizona, which is not a funeral, it's, it's a memorial event. Okay? That is by the way in large part, from what I understand, being controlled by the White House, Trump is controlled by Zionists.

0 (52m 50s):
So they're like baiting me here. Why would I be invited by anyone in Trump's Zionist administration? As I am speaking about with topics that I'm speaking, it's common sense. They're not going to allow me to share the stage, right? This is, what was it, Michael Malice, am I getting the name right? When he was going on his rant, if you watch the rest of it, when he says something's not right, he says, people who are close to Trump in the first administration cannot get close to him. He's like surrounded at this moment. Michael Savage part. Pardon? And he's telling the truth. Okay, I feel like we're an occupied nation. Got nothing to do. First off, the memorial is also an open event, so that is even crazy. But this is, this is their sink line done, right?

0 (53m 33s):
They're, oh, Mike, well are you speaking? Are you one of the five people that's speaking at this event? No, I'm not. And guess what? That's not gonna stop me from looking into this and understanding what exactly is that happened. You're trying to make us move on because you know that you messed up. You know you messed up and it's got something to do with the clothing. That was the fed mistake, and we're gonna keep uncovering things. Lulu, thank you so much for the big donation. She writes, Candace, you stay strong. I believe Charlie is watching from heaven. I do too. And this is why it matters. And know if anyone can figure out the truth that it is you. You have been placed in the refiner's fire, Luke 1223. However, nothing is hidden that will not be disclosed or nothing concealed that will not be known or come out into the open.

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It feels that way right now. I really do. I believe that the devil overplayed his hand, the Charlie Kirk assassination, whatever it is, whatever truth we come to, it's gonna, it's going to explode. And Rev, there's gonna be so many revelations about how this world really works. Principalities, rulers in dark places. The Bible tells us this, and it is correct. John Heel. Thank you. Well, these donations, By the way, are huge. Keep going, Candace, you got this. Christ is king. Indeed Christ is truth, and truth is king because it is Christ Cajun Piner writes, praying for you and your family. Stay safe and keep on warrior. Thank you so much for this donation.

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Brittany Watson writes, Candace, you are like a crime fighting superhero solving all of the world's political crimes through investigative journalism. I believe you will be vindicated and proven right about them are Crohn's. Yeah, I've been telling the truth about that too. They better enjoy this break. Thank you for all of your hard work. No one said, they're like, everyone's attacking her. So we're just gonna readily try to lie here. You know, you're lying. You've been lying. Your whole political existence is a lie and this all needs to be revealed and everything needs to come down. Jasmine writes, get Justice for our brother in Christ. We are with you and we are listening. God is with you and your family. Keep going. Jasmine, these donations are he. I've never had donations this big on YouTube and I just wanna thank all of you guys for that.

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Three Diglett writes, I support Candace Owens. Thank you. It's just me. Free Palestine and the US. I agree. Amy Surly writes, God bless you and keep up the search for truth. Martin, did you see the book about Charlie's assassination on Amazon that was available the day before it happened? Praying for you and your family's safety. God bless you, crisis King. Amazon issued a response. Apparently, this is my producer's note, blaming it on technical issues for the incorrect date of a publication of the title. And Amazon removed the book. That's a weird excuse. It's a weird excuse. Like I said, we were looking into everything. There was also some artist who posted a song and he happens to be from Utah and he, it was called like Charlie Kirk dead at 31.

0 (56m 27s):
And right when people started going, this guy looks like the person in the photo, suddenly the Fed said, no, nevermind. We got i it Tyler Robinson. All lies will be revealed. All leads will be pursued. You can make me persona non grata. Okay? I'm happy with that. I'm very content 'cause I'm locked in and I'm focused. Trevor Miller writes, something is wrong. It's time to unify as a country and fix this. Yes, I am calling on the left and the right to unify and to solve. What happened on September 10th? Okay? All of us left and right. Jean Machine writes seriously our last chance at making a real change to anything.

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Keep going. Candace, thank you. Kristen writes, it's not right versus left. It's not black versus white. It's not gay versus straight. It is good versus evil. And the truth versus lie. Yes ma'am. Leslie writes, you our relentless Candace, do not let up. I won't. And I see you guys in the comments. They can put out what they want. I see you guys gang, gang like, nope, nope. Watched it lies. I saw you guys like, you know, the PBD chat going crazy. Thank you for that. I don't know how they just allowed him to lie like that. It's such an easy thing that could have been debunked, but I'm, I'm built for this. Like you get built different. When you watch someone who you know very well, who you were very close to, who you built with someone who was beside you when you were nobody, he was nobody.

0 (57m 56s):
When you watch that person catch a bullet, you are, you really start to comprehend the evil of this world, the evil that we are fighting. And we are only going to conquer this evil through truth. That's it. We gotta wake up everybody's eyes at the exact same time. Khalid Muhammad writes, good luck with everything. Thank you Cynthia Martinez writes, can Candace, you are divinely protected even more so after this horrifying loss. Charlie is smiling beside God's throne of grace. He is, you are wrapped in their protection wisdom and triumph. You inspire my family and I, Lina writes, here's some Qatari funding for your God sent mission. Oh, Alina, are you in Qatar? Wasn't you always praying for you and your family's safety?

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And Jesus says, almighty name, love from Montreal fall. Alina the Qatari tar. She's the single Qatari individual. Anyways, you guys know my real funding always comes from you guys. Thank you to everyone who is bought sweatshirts and hats and gear on our website and signed up. Just to be clear, the CIA stands for the Candace Intelligence Agency, which you see on the back of that obviously because we consider ourselves to be the decentralized, intelligent agency. 'cause we get tips from you guys and we're willing to research. And I wish I had a bigger team. We're tiny, but it's enough. We're just gonna keep this going and stay locked in and honor Charlie The best way. Charlie fought for the truth.

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Charlie fought for free speech. Charlie was not a fan of manipulation and I am gonna get to the bottom of why he lost his life and who was behind it. So stay tuned.

9/17/25
Who Ordered The Hit On Charlie Kirk? | Candace Ep 237


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1 (31s):
All right, you guys. Let's actually start today's episode with a game. I mean, the feds like to play games. Let's play a game and this is one that everybody can join in on, okay? It doesn't matter how old or young you are, I want you to grab your cell phone and I want you to go to your text messages and search for certain terms, okay? That you just use when you speak to your friends' terms that were just casually tossed into a, a conversation. The alleged conversation held between the 22-year-old alleged killer of Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson, and his 22-year-old boyfriend Lance Twigs. Okay? The first term I want you to search is retrieve.

1 (1m 12s):
You know, look it up. When is the last time that you used the word retrieve between you and a friend? Retrieve. I'm going to retrieve something I played this game with, with my entire staff and I was able to find since dating back for last three years, two messages where someone used that term. The first person was somebody that was former military and the second person was a cop. Makes sense? Okay, we're not done playing this game. Second term that I want you to look for in your phone is vehicle. Vehicle. I mean, what pops up for you? Is that something that you say, I'm just gonna go outside to my vehicle. I left something in my vehicle. I'll be right back.

1 (1m 52s):
I just, I just parked, I parked my vehicle outside. I don't remember where I parked my vehicle. What's popping up for you? Oh, probably literally nothing. Maybe something related to the DMV. That's what came up for me. Things about the DMV. I think for Skylar, something came up for his car wash. Your vehicle is ready. Sounds pretty professional. I dunno what to tell you guys though, because what they're telling us is that that is just the way the 22 year olds are speaking these days. Apparently they just shoot the breeze with one another and they say vehicle and retrieve. And if you don't believe me, then good. You shouldn't believe that.

1 (2m 33s):
You shouldn't believe me when I say that. So Welcome back to Candace. I love vehicles, love fast vehicles. I'm a big vehicle person. Said nobody ever, the text messages that were released yesterday in the indictment of Tyler Robinson make perfect sense. If you don't think about them at all, like literally if you suspend all reason, all rationality, then they can make perfect sense. That's the only way. You just have to stop thinking.

1 (3m 14s):
You gotta get to that point where you're like, are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? No. To be fair, now, we are more broadly considering how stupid the feds believe that we are. And the frankly obnoxious messages that someone strung together must clearly be for either our or their own entertainment. So I wanna hyperfocus on those. I want to actually hyperfocus on what exactly is wrong with these text messages between Lance and Tyler. Now, First and foremost, the obvious thing, there's no timestamps right away. Major red flag, very easy to say. He sent the first message at this times a part of your investigation, right?

1 (3m 58s):
Everybody is on edge globally wanting to know what happened and they just removed that. But don't worry you guys, because like I told you, one of the things that me and Charlie always believed in was that we could work harder. And I gotta tell you, these devils are working pretty hard, but we can work harder than them, okay? And I decided to go back and on the basis of what Tyler Robinson allegedly write to his lover, I decided I could work them into the timeline. I could work out an approximate timeline, at least for us to look at visually for when they had to have been sent, sent on the basis of what he's saying, right? Because he says certain things that were not revealed to the public at a certain time.

1 (4m 38s):
So we're gonna do that. I also wanna point out the fact that the language, which many people said online, somebody actually left a very funny comment. It's like borderline poetic. He's got commas it there, it's like perfect English. And that's actually a striking contrast compared to what's inscribed on the casings, right? He goes through all of these memes that he's written, and I'm not hip to lingo, okay? You gotta be real deep internet and hip. But for whatever reason, when he is writing these messages, he's very proper. Extremely proper, right? What really wants to make sure he gets the punctuation correct. Anyways, let's just dive right back into the timeline.

1 (5m 19s):
Let's, let's dive right back into this, this conversation. And we're at first gonna focus on the third message. And don't forget, just to lead up into this, they are telling us that at no time that we're allowed to know, on September 10th after Charlie Kirk was shot, the roommate that's Lance received a text message from Robinson which said, drop what you are doing. Look under my keyboard. And so Lance, I don't know what he does all day, but he's, he's, he can do that. He knows he's home. And Lance then runs. I'm saying he ran Prances, who knows and looks, and he sees this note. And to be clear, we're never gonna be able to see that note because the feds have since told us that the note was destroyed.

1 (6m 1s):
But even though he destroyed the note, he took a picture of it. Yeah, that makes sense. Because if you're gonna destroy something, the best thing to do is to take a picture of it and the feds saw the picture, but we're not gonna be able to see either. Anyways, don't think about it. If you want it to make sense, then we find out that Lance, I, I guess decided to take a picture and then text Tyler back. And here is where he asks him. Lance says, Tyler, what? You're joking, right? This, you know, the note said I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it. So Lance is like, what? You're joking. And Robinson says to him, Tyler says, I'm still okay my love, but I am stuck in Orum.

1 (6m 47s):
That's the town, okay? That UBU is at for a little while longer, yet so poetic a little while longer. Yet. I'm gonna look that up on my phone later. It shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle. Still, To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I'm sorry to involve you now I wanna jump to this next message because it, it gives us a timeline. He says to him, I assume right away Lance says you weren't the one who did it, right? And Robin says, Robinson says, I am, I'm sorry. And the roommate says, I thought they caught the person. Okay. And Robinson responds, no, they grabbed some crazy old dude then interrogated someone in similar clothing.

1 (7m 28s):
I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering. Okay? So that lets us actually be able to drop that into the timeline pretty simply. Why? Because we know, and we can pull up this timeline that they, at first thought it was George Zinn. So that's who he's referencing some crazy old dude. And on the timeline scholar, if you wanna pull that up so we can go through it, what time Charlie gets shot at 12:23 PM scroll down a bit. George Zin. We learn about, about 30 minutes after that. George Zinn, the decoy boy.

1 (8m 8s):
That's when it's announced that he, that there, he's a suspect in custody by the Utah police. But it's not until, by the way, 5:30 PM 'cause he mentioned that second suspect. And he curiously says in that correspondence that he's wearing similar clothing, which I find to be strange. We don't know what that sec second suspect is wearing until 5:30 PM The, when Governor Cox, 12 minutes into a press conference, the press conference began at 5:30 PM mentions that the second suspect, who is a person of interest, is wearing all dark clothing. So the earliest that that message could have been sent out is after 5:30 PM I think it's unlikely because I, I think again, this is all made up, these messages because he says wearing similar clothing, okay?

1 (8m 60s):
He tells, tells us dark clothing. What's similar about that. This guy allegedly when he did this, was wearing black jeans. I was wearing, pardon me, dark jeans and a black shirt. So that's like everyone on campus, okay? Nobody in the press conference says, oh, we picked him up because he was wearing something similar to the shooter. So that language right there is actually a mistake from the feds. But again, it allows us to be able to plot it into the timeline. So that's good. Okay? Timeline is back up here and we then know Cash Patel tweets that the subject in custody has been released. Our investigation continues. That was a mistake. The guy in the darker clothing, we don't know who that is.

1 (9m 43s):
And then it's after, again, like I said, that these correspondences then had to, had to take place. So we're talking about late in the evening, okay? Six hours on. I'm wondering what it is that Tyler Robinson is doing throughout this entire time. Skyla, you can keep this up 'cause I wanna keep scrolling. Okay? What he's doing throughout this entire time, because that's a very long time for him to be just around campus, but then luckily he's gonna let us know what he's doing, right? He's gonna jump right in here and he is telling us that he's close to the scene. We know in this conversation that he then says to Tyler, he then says to Lance that he's looking to get that rifle right?

1 (10m 24s):
He says, I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring it back. Oh, I'm sorry, let's actually go earlier. He then tells us his alibi, which is amazing, right? He's, he's saying, I'm lingering around there, I'm trying to get the vehicle. And then of course, as you always do when you're trying to clean up things, you then spell out your alibi, right? He asks him, Lance asks him, why did you do this? And Robinson says, I had enough of his hatred. Some hate cannot be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle on scene, like I'm trying to clean up the scene, but also I'm telling you exactly what my motive is here. I will have left no evidence. I'm going to attempt to retrieve it again.

1 (11m 6s):
Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it. Okay, so we are now late in the evening. He's still hanging around. The roommate then comes and says, how long have we haven planning this? He says, A bit over a week. I believe I can get close to it. Still trying to get close to that rifle. So I'm wondering if maybe the feds might drop us some footage, right? We should be able to see some footage. He's gotta be idling in his car. You've been speaking about how he has this car. I'm assuming he's not just sitting in the woods or sitting on a sidewalk. Everybody's, this is, this is a, a quote unquote manhunt. So where is he casually sitting, lingering loitering? I don't know. But that would be some pretty good footage that they could release if they don't want us all to become a conspiracy theorist.

1 (11m 51s):
Okay? He then says, yeah, I've been planning this for a bit over a week. I can get really close to it, but there's a squad car that's parked right by it. That's the drop off spot. I think they already swept the spot, but I don't wanna chance it. And then he tells, he tells Lance that I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. You know, that's a vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back grandpa's rifle. I went to exactly where I got this rifle from. Okay? I don't know, I don't even know if that's, if it had a serial number. Weird. 'cause he's been playing this for a week. He might have checked. Now all of a sudden he's getting into details and is wondering if it had a serial number. That seems a little strange to me, but it wouldn't trace to me, of course, because you just told us in writing that it's your grandpa's definitely trying to cover your tracks.

1 (12m 36s):
I worry about Prince, I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. Okay, we're gonna get to that focus on the changing outfits. That's a really important piece of this. And that is why I am now a confirmed conspiracy theorist on this. Okay? I I I, I left it in the bush where I, where I changed outfits, okay? I didn't have the ability or the time to bring it with. I might have to abandon it and hope that they don't find prints. How the f will I explain losing it to my old man. Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. That's the only thing. Otherwise, it was a perfect job. It was top of the line professional job.

1 (13m 19s):
The only thing I left behind was the weapon with my prints on it. Oh my gosh, right? Like, that's, that's kind of amazing. Okay? Then he of course explains, remember how I was engraving the bullets. The effing messages are mostly a big meme. I know I speak proper here, but it's, it's just a meme that I was writing. I wrote notices, bulge on Fox News. I might have a stroke if they say that, right? If I, if I see notices bulge on Fox News, I might have a stroke. All right, I'm gonna have to leave it. Ugh, that really effing sucks. It's almost perfect. Okay? So he then ends this message. This is all from the day. This is all we have from September 10th. Okay? Judging from today, I'd say grandpa's gun wanna make, make it very clear, this is grandpa's gun, okay?

1 (14m 2s):
Nobody should question this narrative 'cause he has put it all here. I'd say Grandpa's gun does just fine. I don't know. I think that was a $2,000 scope. Okay? So that ends that exchange. Now I have a couple of notes here that I, I, I put here at the end of day one, as we worked in this correspondence, which all had to happen, let's call it 7:00 PM earliest, as I say here, which I wanna be clear, the campus is four hours, three to four hours away from where Tyler and Lance live together. We have a map here to show you that. So he's just loitering, loitering until, like I said, earliest. He's signifying around like 7:00 PM that he's still very close to campus.

1 (14m 44s):
That's a long day. That's a real long day. Just waiting to see when you can go in there and there's a manhunt and he's chill. He's chill because he's changed his outfit. How do we know he changed his outfit? 'cause he made it very clear that he changed, he drops the clothes, the shooting clothes right there. He got changed. He, he didn't have time to take the wipe, the rifle that was in the, that he, he put in the towel, but he did have time to change that. That totally makes sense. And then for whatever reason, he, he, you know, he had to leave the rifle with the prints on it. Okay? What's interesting about that though is like, you know, we should recognize that curiously, what they've removed from this indictment, again, relevant to the clothes, was the fact that, and the governor's gonna say it, that we are told that he at first enters campus on this day at 8:07 AM TMZ shows us the footage, remember, of the man wearing a maroon t-shirt and shorts.

1 (15m 41s):
That's how this day begins. That is walking through a neighborhood just outside of university grounds. The Governor Cox has confirmed this is him not mentioning the indictment. That's curious. Seems very relevant, surely like, I mean, you, you guys should be mentioning that the outfit, what did he do by the way, from 8:07 AM when he walked onto campus to when he is then seen walking back onto campus at 1151? That's, that's about four hours. Something else the feds could release to dispel any conspiracy theories would be him walking back to his car because you're telling us he then goes back to campus and he's in a different outfit.

1 (16m 21s):
Can we get him leaving campus? We know the place is covered with cameras. That would make me feel better if you showed us him leaving campus and then we see him coming back in a different outfit again, not clear why he couldn't just wear the outfit he was going to wear since I would imagine you've got thousands and thousands of students that are wearing something as casual as a black t-shirt and blue jeans. I understand a need, a need for a change if you're in like, you know, a sniper outfit or if you're wearing like, I don't know, a Barney costume. You know, if you, if you're showed up, if you showed up and you're wearing like a full Halloween costume, then yeah, maybe you should change. But this's just an average college kid outfit. You know, this is just what you expect to see on campus.

1 (17m 2s):
Just what boys wear. Anyways, like I said, those would be my points from day one. The, the, the feds can release that. And also I'm wondering where did Tyler spend the night? Can they clarify that? What, where he couldn't, he certainly couldn't have made it out of a rent and back there and, and back to his home. I'm coming home soon. Would've been the wee hours of the morning. This would've been a good time, by the way, if you're really trying to get away with this, to tell your lover to delete the text messages. But he doesn't do that. He's not gonna tell him to delete the text messages on this night. Presumably he saw him, they didn't say he went home to his parents' house. So what happened overnight? When did he get home?

1 (17m 42s):
He's been so thorough in describing that cleanup job. And by the way, we know that Discord is going to later say that those messages were not coordinated on their server, which I would say was definitely a part of the broader plan. Okay, let's get into September 11th 'cause a lot happens here and you are going to really see what I see here and we need to demand answers. Okay? So on September 11th we are presented with the first FBI press conference where they confirm that they have found a weapon in the woods. Let's take a listen to a bit of that.

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4 (18m 48s):
This morning. I can tell you that we have recovered what we believe is the weapon to be that was used in yesterday's shooting. It's a high powered bolt action rifle. That rifle was, was recovered in a wooded area where the shooter had fled. The FBI laboratory will be analyzing this weapon.

1 (19m 9s):
Now, I wouldn't say the, the shooter had fled just based off of what I, he was just kind of lurking around ringing to go get his, get his weapon back, okay, like for a long time, but whatever. Let's go with that. Then. What we have after that 7:00 AM pre 7:00 AM press conference is that exclusively our guys, our resident guys over at the New York Post. Every exclusive ever, Jeffrey Epstein's death pictures, Ghislaine Maxwell found at an In-N-Out. It's always the New York Post, okay? I view them as a Fed feds. If like I, if I'm the Fed and I'm trying to make this seem like this is organic, I wouldn't give it to the New York Post 'cause we're in Utah And so cops are probably not leaking to a New York based publication, but whatever.

1 (19m 51s):
They have the exclusive, they're the ones that reveal the photo. They always have the exclusive, okay? And they show us the gun in the shooting their, their article publishes at, and by the way, my timeline is all based in mountain time. So there that says 11:21 AM Eastern, they publish at 9:21 AM two hours after that first pre press conference and say exclusive, they, they are the ones that drop the trans narrative. They say these things are found on the bullets. Okay? And then just seven minutes later, the FBI, salt Lake City drops static images of the alleged shooter walking up the stairs. Okay? So now we can see on our timeline that's, that's around 10:00 AM in the morning Salt Lake, city time, mountain time.

1 (20m 37s):
So we can then assume that everything else that's about to happen that I'm gonna tell you had to have happened, okay? Between approximately 10 30 and 7:00 PM okay? I have a source and everything this source has told me that has happened and when we were lied to publicly has proven to be correct. So I'm very inclined to believe this source on a couple of other things. And when I speak also to Lantis family, they are confirming what this source is telling me. So we're gonna go through this 10:30 AM two 7:00 PM all of the things that then took place. So they released the photo and then we are told as my source initially told me that it was the mother who recognized Tyler and she phones him up.

1 (21m 19s):
Tyler says, mom, I'm sick. She doesn't believe it. She loops in. Dad, okay, dad then texts and he calls Tyler. And at this point we can jump back into day two of our messages because Robinson says, he says to Lance, delete this exchange. My dad wants photos of the rifle. He says, grandpa wants to know who has what. The feds released a photo of the rifle and it is very unique. He's calling me right now. I'm not answering. Okay? So apparently he did answer the, according to the indictment, the dad says he didn't, he didn't answer his, his text messages. But then the father called him and Tyler Robinson answered, and he tells us that Tyler was suicidal.

1 (22m 4s):
And that that is when they just told him like, you know, calm down, let's speak to you. They bring over their neighbor, share a friend, and they agree that he should, he should go in now if he was in fact suicidal, you don't get that vibe from these messages to his lover, right? There's nothing in here that he's like, I can't, I can't believe what I've done. Now he's slept. We don't know where he seems to be perhaps on very little sleep. I would imagine he was, he just murdered someone and he's not indicating in these messages that he's going through any sort of suicidal feelings. Instead he sends this very odd thing about his dad who he says he is not answering. He writes, since Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty die hard.

1 (22m 47s):
Maga, there's something here for everyone. If you wanna take low hanging fruit and think of it as left versus right, right? So if you're like, you know, on the right, you're like, I need to blame the left, then it's like, whoa, the trans thing is here. But if you're on the left and you need to bring blame, the right, well, dad was a diehard maga, it's like, it's so fed, you know, it's just so federally written. It's amazing. So chaos right here. Anyways, I guess maybe if you're suicidal, that's what you send. Dad's been pretty diehard maga and then we don't know again when these messages took place, but it all had to happen in these seven or eight hours. He says, I'm gonna turn myself in willingly.

1 (23m 28s):
One of my neighbors is here he is deputy for the sheriff. You are all I worry about love he, I mean he seems impassioned here. He doesn't, he doesn't seem suicidal. And then Lance comes back and says, I'm much more worried about you. And Robinson says, don't talk to the media, please don't take any interviews or make any comments because the feds wanna let you know why it is that we're not talking to Lance. Right? They gotta tell you he's 'cause Tyler told him, duh, if you're going, wow, if Lance is really not guilty and he hasn't done anything, this would be a good time to to speak, right? No, Lance is not doing that because Tyler right here says, don't talk to the media police, don't take any interviews or make any comment. And if any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent.

1 (24m 13s):
So that's how it happens. And I wanna tell you that we can jump back into the timeline here. Our source informs us that it was around 7:00 PM when everybody locally began receiving the text messages that Tyler Robinson was in custody and that they were going to pick him up in Warner Valley. That Warner Valley. Now Warner Valley is, is right next to St. George. So he lives very close to his parents, is what I, I want you to recognize you've got St. George, you've got Warner Valley. So they're, they, they said like that's where they went to go pick him up it, that could very much be his parents' place.

1 (24m 54s):
But what's really interesting about that, okay, if you consider that they are telling us at 7:00 PM this is when all the messages started circulating, then we don't know why the feds say that it was the 33rd hour after the shooting, like a total free mason number, 33rd hour after the shoot, third took us 33 hours. That would be an accurate, okay? 33 hours would be at 9:23 PM Our person is telling us, and I tend to believe them, but everyone knew at 7:00 PM okay? And what they tell us took place thereafter. And this is what I confirmed with Lance's family. 'cause I said, wait a second, you owned the house. When did they pick up Lance?

1 (25m 34s):
When did Lance go in? When did the home that you own get raided by the feds? Did the home that you own get raided by the feds? And what that that family is telling me and what my source is telling me, it's matching. Okay, so I'm, I'm feeling good about this. We'll say allegedly what I'm feeling good about this, okay, so Tyler is allegedly in custody and they are told don't say don't, don't speak, don't do anything. The feds, you have to wait for the feds to get there to question Tyler. And that didn't happen until the wee hours of the morning. How do we know? Because we're gonna hear that from Governor Cox the following morning anyways.

1 (26m 15s):
But apparently what happens is then they bring Lance in at 11:00 PM ish. We'll tell you around 11:00 PM Lance Twigs is brought in for questioning, okay? And shortly thereafter that apartment is raid and I say overnight into the wee hours of the morning is when they first raid Tyler and Atlanta's apartment. Now why am I really stressing this out to you? I'm stressing this point to you here because this would signal to you that it would be absolute BS if the Feds are gonna tell us bright and early the next morning that the case is closed, they would know nothing according to Lance's family.

1 (26m 55s):
They see they, this is when they seized his electronics. They say that he's deep on the internet web, that there's definitely gonna be something there. And yet they told us that quite oddly Lance gets released right back to his parents. Right? Not right back. Lance just gets released to his parents while they're raiding his apartment. Why would they release Lance? Wouldn't you think that you would be detained like for at least 24 hours, right? If we're putting this at around 11:00 PM ish that they have brought him in and they are questioning him and they are now moving to raid his part, his apartment in the wee hours in the morning, why would they very quickly release him?

1 (27m 37s):
And beyond that, I'm gonna let you know, let's jump into Friday on the timeline. Like I said, early hours, Tyler and Lance had their apartment raid and the device is seized for whatever reason. The FBI quickly releases Lance and I'm told that he has dropped off at his parents' home. Allegedly. Allegedly. And then it's at 6:00 AM that President Trump announces with a high degree of certainty that they have a suspect. Okay? So are they still raiding his place? I don't know, but take a listen to Trump on Fox and Friends.

5 (28m 6s):
Any updates on the suspect?

6 (28m 8s):
Yeah, can I always say, I think just to protect us all And so Fox doesn't get sued and we all don't get sued and everything else, but I think with a high degree of certainty, we have him right now in custody, right? In custody. Everyone did a great job. We worked with the local police, the governor, everybody did a great job,

1 (28m 32s):
Okay? And here is what the governor is then two hours later is when his press conference began. I'm gonna do the short clip, I get, okay, let's play actually a little bit of the longer clip. Skylar, I'll tell you when to come out of it. It's a six minute long clip and you should go back and watch it in its entirety. He's gonna make it seem like, you know, Lance doesn't even exist. But let's just start, let's start it off and listen to a minute of this and then I'll give this synopsis.

7 (28m 56s):
Good morning ladies and gentlemen. We got him on the evening of September 11th, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident. This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was also conveyed to the FBI Investigators reviewed additional F video footage from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus in a grade Dodge Challenger at approximately 8:29 AM on September 10th, in which he has observed on video in a plain maroon T-shirt, light colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo and light colored shoes when encountered in person by investigators in Washington County on September 12th, in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed in consistent clothing with those surveillance images.

1 (30m 0s):
Okay, stop. That's actually a, a perfect place to stop right there. My source says he's lying. I don't like Governor Cox vibes. Okay? Vibes, I don't know, can't explain it. I'm getting tons of people that are messaging me, telling me he's corrupt, that he forced himself onto the ballot that he wasn't even supposed to be the governor. Allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly. I just don't like him. Every time we find an inconsistency, I actually find him to be the mouthpiece of it. Okay? So he is representing, and my source says falsely that they picked up Tyler Robinson. And by the way, it makes perfect sense that my source is saying that that's not accurate in the same outfit that we just showed you, okay?

1 (30m 40s):
Of the maroon thing that happened at eight o'clock. We don't know what he was doing for four hours on campus, but he's telling us that for 33 hours he decided that he was gonna keep the outfit on. Now remember I told you that Tyler Robinson's classmate reached out and they insisted that this was the, an incredibly odd thing because he was very tidy, he was very clean and they said that's the first thing that they went, that just sounds weird. He was a very tidy dude. Now I'm telling you that my source is saying he wasn't wearing that outfit when he got picked up. He wasn't wearing that outfit when he was brought to the office, that he was brought to the office. If I am, if I have this wrong, this would be a very easy thing, okay?

1 (31m 21s):
Surely they're gonna have photos, they've got something for them to release. It's like, yeah, no, we totally got 'em. I wanna be clear. If you are in the police station and you want to reach out and let me know more tips@canisowens.com because I am, I'm struck by this. This is what we should be hyper-focusing on. He kind of wraps it up and says he was wearing the same outfits and that always sounded dumb to us. Why would you not take a shower in 33 hours? Okay, that doesn't make any sense to anybody whatsoever. And people are saying that fact is untrue. Okay? Now if that is untrue, let's first show you how he wraps this up.

1 (32m 4s):
We might show you a portion of what he said again 'cause we wanted to compress his six minute clip, but like listen to how he wraps up this conference too, because it's relevant.

7 (32m 14s):
Good morning ladies and gentlemen. We got him. This is a, a very sad day for, again, for our country, a terrible day for the state of Utah. But I'm grateful that at this moment we have an opportunity to bring closure to this very dark chapter in our nation's history.

1 (32m 35s):
Closure. He says closure, we got 'em. They already start. And in that he starts talking about the messages. He starts spilling in the blanks. He said he had it, he put it in a towel. We have messages, it's all over. We found it on discord. Discord is gonna say that's not true. So who made up these messages? When were these messages made up? Is the question If Discord saying they don't exist, this signals to me that these messages were were just created, right? And I'm further feeling that way because there's no timestamps. Again, I wanna be proven wrong. Okay? But I don't like this at all. And we got 'em. It's over and we can turn the page with finality.

1 (33m 17s):
Would you, if you were an honest governor and you knew that only again ish four hours earlier, how long does it take to raid a home? I dunno, was it quick? Is it like a 10 minute thing? It feels like it'd be a long thing to grab a devices. If you knew that you had not even begun going through those devices, how would you say that we can close this chapter. Why would you say that we can close this chapter? I would have said honestly, and he does not, we rated his home and we are looking for more information. We think that there's gonna be a lot more information, but we wanted to let you know that we at least have one person that we feel is definitely involved.

1 (33m 60s):
That's not what he says. He says it's Dover, it's done. Wrap it up. We're not gonna even tell you about the fact that we just raid this place a couple of hours ago and the person whose place we rated, who was the one that the family says is super internet, we just kind of released, we're not interested in that. What are we to discern from all of this? I'll tell you, I'll tell you my take on this. I think the person in the maroon that's walking is different from the person that's walking up the stairs. It's a gut thing. Okay? I don't know. No, but I know, okay, I don't know. No, but I know it makes sense in the timeline of George Zinn, the decoy boy, that we've got other people that are doing different things and it is, they do not want us to prod the narrative about the person in Maroon.

1 (34m 43s):
It doesn't make sense. They can't tell us. He said he planned this for weeks. So I'm, I'm gonna assume if you planned it for weeks and he didn't go to campus earlier because he wanted to scope things out, he would've done that. He would've obviously been able to do that already because he's been planning this for a week. He knew where Charlie was, was was speaking. Right? Make it make sense. It's very easy to debunk me. Very easy. You should have footage of him in that Dodge Challenger. Just waiting and salivating. He kept checking. He said, oh, here I am right here, just waiting to get that rifle back. I'm waiting to get that rifle back. Where's the footage? You were on a manhunt. Where is the footage?

1 (35m 23s):
Surely during a manhunt you used drones. I feel like we are tech capable enough that during a manhunt, after a murderer of a college student decides to take out Charlie Kirk, who has been a friend of the Feds, right? I think probably not a good idea to be friends with these people, but whatever. He's been a friend of the feds. Surely this is a big issue. And to, to put to rest in his conspiracies. You are gonna show us that drone footage and we're gonna see the Dodge Challenger just sitting there for hours and hours and hours. And we're maybe even gonna be able to see, 'cause I'm sure at that point, like cops maybe set up some barricades or something to see who was going in and out.

1 (36m 4s):
And then he decided he's going to leave. Show us the footage. Like I said, every inch of that campus is covered. So we should be able to see he's wearing maroon and you're telling us that he went back to his car and he changed, show us him leaving campus before he returns back to campus around 1130 to show us the footage. Okay? I'm demanding it. You know why? 'cause I need to be able to fit things into my timeline if that's okay with you. So I would discern that we are looking just a vibe. Again, two different people would be my thing. Two different people. One of those people is definitely individuals, is definitely being protected.

1 (36m 46s):
And separately, we can definitely make out that for whatever reason, Lance is being protected. There's no way you release that guy, okay? There's no way you release that guy immediately. There's no way that you intentionally purge him out of these messages. Okay? The excuse he's being cooperative doesn't work. You can be cooperative while you're still being detained at least 24 hours before you would say, I felt good to clear him as a suspect, especially when you haven't even raided his home yet. They released him instantly and they said, job done. So I would like more information about Lance Twigs. Okay? I already don't like that. Mom received a Bachelor of Science, Stanford University in psychology.

1 (37m 27s):
It seems to be a running theme in these Fed Ops that there's always psychology somewhere in the family. And I wanna be very clear, I'm not saying his mom has anything to do with anything, but I am saying that I feel this kid, for some reason, some unknown reason, is being protected. And I'm not the only one. His family feels that way, okay? His family thinks it's odd. Like I said yesterday, I spoke to them today, I spoke to them yesterday. They think it's odd that the Feds moved on from him so quickly and that the Feds were being dishonest and they felt about everything when they first came out with information. So why are we all feeling that way? We absolutely need to get to the bottom of it.

1 (38m 8s):
Let's take a quick break. I'm gonna show you some stuff. I mean, Tucker completely destroyed the BB net and Yahoo narrative. Megan Kelly, Dave Smith, I mean everybody yesterday. The truth is coming out inevitably about Charlie's mindset. The only reason we're discussing it obviously is because of BB net and Yahoo coming out and lying. But some important things that he said.

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1 (41m 45s):
What I just said to you, I think we're these are two different people and I'm further believing that because I think it's weird that they won't even release the footage. This grainy footage of the guy walking up the stairs. Why do we have one static image of that? Does that make any sense to you? Why? Why? Why are, why are they all static images? Release the video. When I had first looked at this video and then they said it was, I was like, that doesn't look like the same person. Like ish. But like, no. And that feels intentionally grainy. You could release clearer footage. You know, you can release clearer footage. So do it because we're not going to let it go.

1 (42m 26s):
I now believe there is a federal level of corruption and conspiracy involved in this murder, okay, from George Zinn to Lance Twigs, the unanswered questions were like, what? What was he doing at home? What does he do for a living? But what, what was, did they see each other that night? Why are we doctoring their messages? Why can't I read Lance's messages? If he's being so forthcoming, why can't I read how he replied and at what time these messages were sent? Okay. There are too many things that the feds can easily do to dissuade us. Okay? And they're not doing any of it. They're just doing that thing, that thing. Which is like, are we still talking about it?

1 (43m 6s):
No. Now they're actually doing the, like, this is inappropriate. Charlie's funeral's coming up. Stop yourselves right now. Okay, stop. This is exactly what, no. Oh, you, you're inappropriate. No, you know, it was inappropriate Charlie Kirk getting shot while we all had to watch that we are all suffering PTSD and the lack of answers that we are getting from the Feds. That is the only thing here that is happening that is inappropriate. I wanna be very clear, actually not the only thing Bibi Netanyahu trying to spin this into. He's my good friend. I just invited him. Well, Tucker Carlson completely shredded that narrative. I don't like the BB lied so quickly. It doesn't make me comfortable.

1 (43m 46s):
I don't like it. Okay. And he just went live yesterday. He also brought in Megan Kelly and other people, and he spoke about what Charlie was going through because he saw him very shortly before his assassination. And he intimates to everybody what it was exactly. That was on Charlie Kirk's mind and what he was living through in that moment. Take a listen.

10 (44m 12s):
I was shocked and sickened by the reaction of the ghoulish and really repulsive reaction of the Prime Minister of, in Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu to Charlie's death, basically made it all about him and all about his country. Immediately trying to take the energy, the sadness, the grief that people felt over Charlie's murder and redirect it towards support for whatever project he's involved in. And by the way, Benjamin Nya, who is not the same as the nation of Israel at all, bibe is despised by many people in Israel. And if you know people who live there, you know that that's true. There are huge divisions within the Israeli government. I mean, there are certain parts of the, the intel world in Israel that do not support some things that Benjamin Netanyahu has done recently.

10 (44m 58s):
So it's not the same as attacking Israel, attacking Bibe. But I, I don't think I've ever seen anything lower than his attempt to hijack Charlie's memory and use it for his own political ends. Particularly because what he said was completely untrue. Charlie didn't hate Jews. He loved Jews. He had tons of friends were Jews. He loved the state of Israel. He loved going there. He did not like BB Netanyahu. And he said that to me many times. And he said to people around him many times, he felt that BB Netanyahu was a very destructive force. He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza. He was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country.

10 (45m 43s):
And that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States. And he resented it. Didn't hate Netanyahu, he wasn't out there with a placard saying that. But he certainly expressed that to me and a lot of other people. And there's no question that Bebe's defenders on the internet will call me a liar or a kook. But that's a fact. And enough text messages exist that I think it can probably be verified in pretty short order. Not that it needs to be, because that is true. Shortly after that speech, there was a very intense attack on Charlie and to some extent of me, not that I really noticed, but on him, I have no donors. He had a hundred million dollars worth of donors. And so, because he was involved in different project from just yapping on the internet, which is what I do for a living, he was dependent to a great extent on his donors.

10 (46m 28s):
Of course, it's a nonprofit. And they went after him and tormented him. Not all, of course, many were supportive, but the ones who were offended by my speech and there was a, a small, very intense group who worked tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died two days before he died. He lost a 2 million do dollar donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next Turning point conference in December. And he told me over the past couple of months that he was losing a lot of donations over that pledge. They put out a flyer basically saying that I was gonna be at this event giving a speech. And so he would text me and say, man, I'm really taking a lot of heat for this. And people are really mad. The American Jewish Committee called in a statement, Charlie Kirk, an antisemite and quote, dangerous Charlie Kirk.

10 (47m 14s):
An antisemite. Yeah, he was not an antisemite. He was the opposite. And he was not dangerous. He was a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace. He was the opposite. And he was very stung by that. Those of us who've been called names for a long time are a little bit harder to offend. Charlie was deeply offended by that and expressed some of those feelings on Meg Kelly's show and in other places. But that did not let up. The reason I'm telling this story is because he called me and then came to see me at my house about this topic. And I said to him every single time, look, it's, you know, I, I've got my own way to communicate my views. This is actually not the most important issue to me.

10 (47m 55s):
There are lots of things I can talk about. I don't need to come to Turning Point. I can take a year off. No problem. I hated seeing how much he was suffering, the hassle he was getting from people. And I was being attacked too, by the way. It was a huge effort. I wasn't fully aware of it actually, 'cause I don't go online that much. But there was a huge effort by people, some of whom I know and have helped. And like Seth Dylan, the Babylon Bee, for example. Someone who had his own problems with free speech, who was famously canceled. And I, I like Seth Dylan. I had him on a couple of times. I had dinner with him to show support. Seth Dylan was out there demanding that Charlie Kirk take me off the roster, pull me off stage because I had said things that Bibe didn't like or that he didn't like or whatever.

10 (48m 38s):
Shocking that someone whose whole persona is wrapped up in the idea that we all get to speak. And if you don't like it, make a more compelling case that that person and many others like him were advocating for me getting pulled off the stage because they don't like what I'm saying. This is a trend and one that we should be really concerned about. It's not just about Israel, by the way, at all. The trend is really simple. People with power don't want to hear disagreement. They don't wanna be challenged ever. That's why we have free speech to acknowledge that even those of us or people with less power still have a right to talk because they're human beings.

10 (49m 20s):
You don't own them. So time after time Charlie would call me or come to see me and let me know. Wow. Or show me text messages. These people are really mad that you're speaking. And I would always have the same thought. Like I, I feel pretty moderate actually. I'm, I've never been an Israel hater, obviously I'm not an anti-Semite. I just don't want to more wars. And I don't want a foreign country humiliating my country and telling us what our laws have to be. I mean, this seems like pretty basic America first stuff. And he would say, I totally agree with you, but they want you off the stage. And I would always say, no problem. And he would say, no, it's important. It's a matter of principle. I want you to be there. Great.

10 (50m 1s):
By the way, I'm not accusing anyone of being involved in that murder. I'm not trying to mutter darkly or imply anything. We don't, there's a lot we don't know about who murdered Charlie and why. But I, I don't know. And I'm not gonna pretend that I do, but I think it's important to say that out loud because it's a fact. And there are many liars out there trying BB Netanyahu, number one among them, shamefully, who are trying to distort the truth. A, a truth that I know and can prove.

1 (50m 31s):
What I wanna add here is that it takes a truly demonic spirit, right, to be a part of the people that were swarming, pressuring, threatening, intimidating Charlie to then flip in one second after he dies and say, pretend it never happened. Like they were just great friends. That's weird to me. It's very weird to me. We wouldn't be here if they didn't do that. They could have said anything, by the way, like Josh Hammer, I know how you were messaging him. Like release the messages buddy. Just release all of your threads with Charlie in the 48 hours leading up to his death. Okay? Let people see it.

1 (51m 12s):
They did it at first regarding me last year. They insisted. And I said, Charlie, I, I couldn't even come up for air. I didn't even, I said, Charlie, don't even think about it. I don't even care. Don't even fight your donors. Like, just let them think they won because I gotta rebuild my entire life. I was just publicly fired. You know what I mean? Like, this is not, you're good. Like you are so good. I couldn't even care about this. Less like you're a brother to me. Do what you have to do to survive. Okay? And then he just saw them moving into, it wasn't just Candace, they wanted Tucker. You're not allowed to tuck to Tucker. Tucker shouldn't be here. And then Charlie realized which way the wind was blowing. 'cause it's never enough. It's never enough with them, okay? They want to be the authority on speech. And it's reality that those very same people who were pressuring him and threatening him and intimidating him and calling him an antisemite and calling hi, you know, telling he was hosting antisemitism, then became the fastest people to try to eulogize him and to say, look no further.

1 (52m 3s):
He effectively died for BB net and Yahoo. It's wrong. And we have to stand up to that narrative. Matt Gates jumped into the, jumped into the ring and, and basically just doubled down on what tar Tucker Carlson said. He tweeted this. I have personal knowledge as to many of the claims Tucker is making here. If they are 100% true, yes, they were behaving like demons. There's just no question. It's very weird when a demon then pretends that they weren't being demonic. You could be chill, you could have, you could have transformed it. After Charlie was fascinated, you could have said, wow. My last correspondence with him was, I was upset about something. And now I realize that life is so short and fragile and it's really not worth it to, to skirmish with one another.

1 (52m 45s):
And I really regret my last correspond. And then I would've been like, okay, that was really authentic and re and, and real. Instead, they were like, we had a wonderful dime. I just saw I wasn't what? Oh, love, love Charlie just loved him so much. Something is weird about that. Spiritually. It's evil. That's what it's, it's evil. And in case you needed any more, another person to tell you that he was being intimidated and they were bullying him about who he could speak to. Here is me, Kelly, she joined Tucker Carlson. And she says this very quickly, take a listen.

11 (53m 16s):
Charlie is not the only one who's been threatened or was threatened to cut ties with you or not platform you. I too have gotten that, especially since you've been more outspoken on Israel and I couldn't care less the amount of pressure they put in. I'm like, what? What are you talking about? Yeah, this is madness. Why would you wanna silence such a powerful, important voice just because you disagree with them on one subject? Exactly. One on which we've all watched you sincerely evolve as you grapple with principles you've been espousing for years. Like America First, like what's happening to Christians? Like, what's best for us and our kids here? What, how do I keep them safe?

11 (53m 58s):
That's my number one priority. And I've been just absolutely disgusted and recoiled from people who have tried to pressure me on it. It of course never happened. But I know from speaking to Charlie, he felt it too. You've heard it from Charlie, that he felt, and, and there is a layer here of nefarious pressure to have certain narratives go only one way. Yes. Yes. That must be called out and must be fought.

1 (54m 24s):
Love that. Like Megan, that was amazing. Thank you. I think all of us right now are just feeling we have to speak. Okay? So if you know something about what was going on, if you have something, send it all to me. 'cause I'm organizing. Okay. I'm getting a lot of tips. By the way, many of you guys spoke about the individual who very quickly, I think four minutes after Charlie was shot, went and took the camera down and moved his chair and stood up and took the camera down, like literally four or five minutes after he was shot. I wanna let you know I was able to figure out who that person was. 'cause I recognized one of the individuals and I reached out to that individual and I said, you know, I've known you for a long time and I would like to see the footage that by, like, I would like to see the footage and I think the world would trust me if there's nothing weird that happened on that day, and there's about four or five cameras on that day, I'm not gonna publish the footage, but I want to see it with my own two eyes So I can stand on this platform So I can sit here on this platform.

1 (55m 28s):
And I can say to the world, no funny business happened. Truly, we can all go home. It was Tyler Robinson and he acted alone and there was nobody else there. And this kid just, I guess after having a life where he didn't bother anybody, just woke up one day and chose violence and then decided to explain every layer of what he had done that day via text messages. I wanna be able to look people in the eye honestly and say that. So I wanna see all of his footage. So I am working to get to the bottom of it. Okay? I know there's a lot of conspiracy theories floating in about the security guard and people thinking he was making gestures. I know that security person, he's a good guy.

1 (56m 8s):
It would shock me. I usually get a vibe about somebody, not that guy, not the guy that they say, he's like rolling up. He tends to do that. Roll up his sleeves. I don't, I don't buy that one. Okay? I don't buy that one. And, but here's the thing. That's my gut. My gut has, has led me in the right way. And I want you guys to know that once I look at all the footage from every angle, if, if I'm putting in this formal request and they said they would speak to the lawyers, I think the world will trust me to say there was no funny business and this is exactly what happened. So I've put in that request and I want you guys to know that, and I, I mean business. I'm getting to the bottom of this. And lastly, I wanna say to this like new flex operation mocking pastor regarding, which by the way, the first time they went after Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, a source told me, and I would love to get this confirmed, I'm gonna find this out, that $150 million was spent on that, and it came from BB net and Yahoo.

1 (57m 5s):
I would like to figure out if that's, if that's true. But anyways, obviously investigating this and I'm not gonna let it go. Okay? You're not going to emotionally use some juujitsu, and I'm referring here to Roy or Rob McCoy who says, I'm Charlie's pastor, and here's the truth, or whatever it is to look the other way right now. Okay? You're not going to tell me that I have to feel too bad to investigate who shot my friend in front of my face. So stop the nonsense. This is what Charlie's pastor passed around to all of the people that were intimidating Charlie, leading up to his death. It's, it's, it's funny that Charlie's pastor couldn't find his voice when Bibb net and Yahoo was lying about Charlie, your's, pastor, you know what he's saying is are lies?

1 (57m 46s):
No. He didn't find his voice say anything about bi Netanyahu, CANDACE investigating things. Yeah, that's gotta stop. Here's what he wrote. Okay? What's his name? Rob McCoy. He wrote, Charlie Kirk was my friend and I was his pastor. I wanna simply say this regarding Candace Owens. Charlie Kirk was a friend to CANDACE and never publicly spoke poorly of her, though he disagreed with her. He never operated nor entertained gossip or innuendo concerning Candace. My only comment I offer regarding Candace is this, I only wish at this tragic time of mourning, she would be the friend to Charlie Kirk that he was to her. He would never have treated Candace or her family in such a way, had, God forbid this tragedy been hers. A friend loves at all times and he drops a biblical proverb. Now, let me say this, okay?

1 (58m 27s):
I hope that Charlie would've been the sort of friend that I'm being, okay. He would've never, why? Why wouldn't Charlie Kirk have investigated if I had been killed and we were being so obviously lied to? I think you're wrong. I think you're wrong. I think Charlie was a real friend and he would not have dropped it. He would not have let it go. Least of all because he was being emotionally manipulated by a guy who curiously kept his mouth shut. When Bebe lied, you knew if you were really his close friend and pastor, how he was feeling about Bibi Netanyahu. You knew if you're his close friend and pastor. Exactly. The names everybody who was intimidating him and how poorly they are misrepresenting the things that he believed. So why don't you focus on being more honest as a pastor and giving as much information as you can possibly provide so that we can continue this investigation.

1 (59m 15s):
If you can't do this, I'm going to have to ask for your silence, okay? Be quiet. I mean that nobody is going to stop me from investigating what happened to Charlie Kirk because it feels to me, okay, that this is a conspiracy, a federal level conspiracy, which means that there's gonna be somebody else. So maybe somebody close to Charlie that could be involved in this, right? And when I am satisfied that there is no conspiracy, I will communicate that. But at the moment, no, I am feeling the exact opposite. I don't trust anybody. There's a lot more information that I wish I could share, but I'm going to tell you guys, it's gonna get uglier.

1 (59m 55s):
And these absolute demons are trying to justify saying you shouldn't investigate until the funeral, until the state funeral, until, as I have heard, people are trying to buy their way. Okay? Oh, I've given this much money. I wanna say some remarks about Charlie Kirk. Okay, stop. Okay, just stop. A real friend would investigate someone's murder and they would not stop until they felt good about the resolution and the answers that they were given. And I'll let you know when that is, pastor. Okay?

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1 (1h 3m 39s):
All Right guys, what is on your mind? Tell me what's on all of your minds and also what you think about this. I I feel like they're two separate people. It's just a vibe that I have right now. And like I said, the Feds could easily prove that that's not true. You have the footage, you must have the footage of him walking back to his car after he's in the maroon. Kaitlyn Wright's can, you're force to be reckoned with. Thank God Charlie has you on his side. God bless Charlie Kirk and his family. God bless you, Candace Owens and your family. God bless America. Keep Charlie's legacy alive. I know that Charlie made it to heaven and I think he's watching, I think he is looking down knowing that like his wife said, evil doers, evil doers have done some things.

1 (1h 4m 21s):
And I I'm gonna keep fighting until we learn the truth. I don't care who dislikes me. I literally, I already didn't care. Like I piece out politics a while ago because I, I didn't have the thing that Charlie had the patience to deal with people that are backstabbers and liars and peer ing you. I was like, literally, I will burn it all down and rebuild. Okay? That's why they hate me. That's exactly why they hate me because they don't have any ownership over me. They can't fire me. That's it. The person that can fire me is my husband and I don't think he's gonna fire me. I hope not. Lyn Padilla writes, never surrender. Fight for Charlie and fight for freedom. We will. Mia writes, what do you do when a person has such high morals?

1 (1h 5m 3s):
They will never do anything that you can use to blackmail them and they won't take your money to say lies. Charlie Kirk couldn't be bought or blackmailed. And that is why they took him out. That is your theory that you are presenting there. Mia and I will say this, it's like Tucker said, to have so many donors. What I do know is the donors became very rotten at the end. He rely on his donors. They were making threats. Some of them up until the very last minute were making threats against him. Financial threats I'm referring to, obviously some people are lying and saying that I said this donor tried to kill him or it was so ridiculous. Financial threats. That's a threat. Okay? That is a threat. Michelle e writes, you and Charlie are both so inspiring and have taught me a lot.

1 (1h 5m 43s):
I think it's amazing what you are continuing to do for Charlie. God bless you, and God bless Charlie love and prayers from Scotland also. Thank you guys. I see you defending me when people are lying and saying that I said stuff that I didn't say, you know, their new thing that went around us today. I woke up and I like all of like Bill Ackman's cronies. Were like, would you like to comment? The New York Post would, like I said, literally New York post. You guys are just feds. And I'm not, I don't really feel like commenting. I don't care. The people are awake. We are awake, okay? We see what is happening and you're not gonna distract me. Write your stupid articles, call me whatever you need to call me. People are listening and they can hear the words that are coming out of my mouth. Okay? The entire world needs to wake up right now. And I believe that Charlie Kirk's murder has provided us an opportunity to do so.

1 (1h 6m 26s):
To stop the left and write Bs and to focus in the people that actually hate us and rule over us at the same time. Scott writes, what is your view on the questioner on trans violence? The questioner on trans violence? Did you watch his remorse video? I was not convinced. I believe he had gone to other t Charlie Kirk events. Also the guy with long hair who cheered and said that he would explain later. It may all be a coincidence. It just seems too sloppy to be the Mossad guy is too crazy. I'm not sure who you are speaking about, but I will just say this overarching, I I haven't presented a theory as to who was involved. My theory is that we are not being told the truth. And I think that there are multiple people that were involved, including George Zinn.

1 (1h 7m 7s):
That's my, that's my overarching theory at the moment. George Zi with this decoy thing that makes entirely no sense to me. And it will make sense if there's more people that are involved. So I believe that Tyler Robinson played a part. I don't know which part he played. Curious. Nat writes, pray this gets used wisely. Rest in peace. Charlie Kirk. Nat writes, they messed with the wrong best friend. You'd think that they would learn, thank you Candace, for changing my life five to six years ago. Christ is king. Indeed Christ is king, and Christ is truth. And we are gonna get to the truth. Wow. By the way, also, that is a really huge donation. So thank you Nat for that. And also to other people that have gone onto our website and bought a hat or a t-shirt that has been amazing to support us because that's it, that's who I am funded by.

1 (1h 7m 54s):
That is the big, you know, they, they say I'm funded by Qatar or in Saudi Arabia. I mean, they, they make up things every week. I'm literally funded by the people that are watching this right now. You guys, when you buy gear, when you sign up, if you're a part of my book club, that's who funds me. It is the people. JJ Bullard writes, if you declare with your mouth Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Amen. Alan Paulson writes, Alan Paulson, pardon writes, thank God for you, Candace. I really am grateful for your shining a light on this federal corruption. I pray for justice for Charlie. I too. I I pray for it and I work every day toward it. And like I said, there's nobody that has the capacity to get me to shut up about this except for Erica Kirk and my husband.

1 (1h 8m 39s):
So don't plea to his pastor, don't plea to people that work at Turning Point, many of them who have been coming forward and saying something weird is going on, and I'm trying to figure out how to present that to the public. If you want to make a plea. Those are the only people that I will answer to. And I've got a feeling that, you know, Erica Kirk has been, you could see the energy. She's gonna fight, she's gonna fight, and she is going to fight on the good side because every woman would know what her husband's going through. So I can't even imagine what it feels like experiencing this tragedy, having to come to terms with this tragedy, and then on top of it, having people that are outwardly lying. It's just, it's just, it's too much.

1 (1h 9m 21s):
It's too much. So we are going to stay on it and I am grateful to you guys for being along this journey. The stuff that we have even been able to put together is in large part, thanks to you guys that are reaching out. We will stay on it and we'll see you tomorrow.

9/16/25
Charlie Kirk Shooting Suspect Charged. Something Isn’t Right… | Candace Ep 236


0 (0s):
Well, it's going to be a heck of a Tuesday for us guys. Where should we begin? I'll tell you this, something is not right. Something is not right, and I am going to need you, whoever it is that's listening to this podcast right now, to wake up. Because I am telling you this is not a battle between left and right. We all thought that at some point we believed that you're my enemy. You're my enemy. It is not a battle between Russia, Ukraine. I don't care what your political issue of the day is. What is happening right now in the world. And what just happened to my friend Charlie Kirk, is a battle of sheer evil versus goodness.

0 (43s):
What do I have for you guys today? Okay, well, First and foremost, the indictment against Tyler Robinson was just released. And I have a lot of questions that I think need to be answered regarding his trans boyfriend, Lance Twigs. Well, I just spoke to a family member who told me a lot about Lance Twigs because the media is kind of presenting him as this do-gooder. You might be interested to know that his family has a different perspective. Also turning point. Employees are contacting me, a lot of them. Okay? And I amm not liking what I am hearing from them about things that took place leading up to that Hamptons event. Some changes at the organization in the months leading up to that event, and what had been happening more broadly at the company over the last year.

0 (1m 32s):
Speaking of which Bill Ackman, you may have, have caught that he responded to me about the Hamptons with a lot of words to really say nothing at all. And I wanna be clear, I am not done. Okay, I'm coming for everybody. Charlie Kirk's death is really just a beginning. So welcome back. Let's start with some major updates regarding the Charlie Kirk case. First and foremost, what always stood out to us about this shooting was decoy Boy, right?

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We're all on social media. We all watch the news. We have all whether we wanted to or not witnessed thanks to social media and the news. A lot of shootings. A lot of shootings, whether it's gang related or otherwise. And I have to say, I don't know if I'm the only one. Never in my entire life have I seen a situation when a shooting happens and then somebody completely unrelated to the shooting that just happened, jumps up and down and says that they did it and gets arrested for saying that they did it, implying that they did it well. For whatever reason, George Zinn, who is a 71-year-old man, was moved to do that, right?

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Instantly, Charlie Kirk gets shot. Suddenly the 71-year-old man jumps up and creates what is obviously some sort of a distraction. Okay? We have eyes, we can see that that's not normal. He creates a distraction. So let's just take a look at this clip of him being arrested in the aftermath of the shooting. Well, now it's about to get even stranger because since he's been arrested, he's now facing charges of obstruction of justice because he didn't do it right.

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Why would you do that? Why would you obstruct justice in this manner? And now, in addition, addition to those charges, we learn that he's been harboring images of child abuse. Okay? He has kitty porn, this is the headline. I can't make this up, man. Arrested for allegedly faking a confession to Charlie Kirk's killing George Zinn, accused of obstructing justice, was also booked in connection with images on his cell phone related to child abuse. Okay? So we learn from this article that after being arrested, seven, the 71-year-old man for this second degree felony, which is obstruction of justice, he was also, when he, the police had approached him, he was being weird about giving them his cell phone.

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Okay? So they took him into custody, they treated him for a medical condition, and then they start asking this guy questions about, you know, what are you doing? Can we see your cell phone? And he's being really cagey about giving over his cell phone. They're like, okay, we're trying to get to the bottom of why you would stand up and scream, shoot me, shoot me immediately following the aftermath of this murder. Okay? And what they discover is that when asked by an officer, okay, after he, like, they figure out that like he's, he's, he's not being cooperative, is that he has images, he has images of kitty porn. There's another way to say this of, of related to child abuse on his cell phone.

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Now what does that tell you about this guy? Okay. What I tell you about George Zinn, what that signals to me about George Zinn is that I've, I mean, I've read a lot about Jeffrey Epstein. I've read a lot about blackmail operations. The people they tend to go after are people who are into children full stop. Now, I'm not saying I, I obviously he's just been charged here. So we, I guess we have to say allegedly, but that's what's coming out now that they found images on his cell phone. So this guy who is into this sort of thing, we also figure out that in the past he has given interviews related to September 11th and Al-Qaeda, he is in Utah and he is obstructing justice.

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And he also happens to have this totally disgusting addiction of some description, assuming it's an addiction. And that's what he's harboring. He's harboring child abuse images on his phone. That's what I'm gonna tell you. That's my instinct immediately. I don't like this guy that is suspect. Okay? Something to watch. Now, in terms of this indictment, now that we can formally read the indictment, there's been a lot that's been said that I think a lot of the miscommunication is perhaps coming from Governor Cox. I think he, in and of himself, I probably should look into Governor Cox. I'm not sure why he said some things that, or, or apparently untrue. Maybe he misspoke. I understand there's a lot of pressure when it comes to this investigation, but I'm gonna, let's just take us through this indictment.

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I think it's important for us to go through it so that we can see the setup here of what took place on September 10th. Now first they provide basically an overview. And this indictment, it's a probable cau probable cause statement. They tell us that basically after 33 hours, they really love saying 33 hours. I don't know why they keep signaling that to us. On September 11th, 2025, when Tyler James Robinson surrendered to police at Washington County Sheriff's Office, that was when it happened. They found DNA consistent with Robinson on the rifle trigger. After shooting, Mr. Kirk Robinson hid the gun. They're gonna get into that discarded dis discarded the clothing that he was wearing when he fired the rifle.

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And he told his lover slash roommate to delete incriminating text messages and not to speak with police. And also they'll be charging him count six, because children were present at the time of the shooting. Okay? Now to get through this, we are told that the suspect after this, this shooting took place, that there was a police officer who immediately looked upward and realized that he had heard the sign of a, a rifle, knew that it was obviously coming from the rooftops. They then began crawling through the footage, began crawling through the footage to see what had happened. They tell us that this discovery led to an intensive review. Lemme go actually back up to this paragraph.

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Police reviewed surveillance from the camera that was covering the roof and discovered that it recorded an individual that was dressed in dark clothing who had crossed the railing from the public walkway and dropped onto the roof at approximately 12:15 PM. Now, just to very quickly, I'm going to just tell you, according to our timeline, we know that Charlie gets shot at 12:23 PM So they're now telling us that he was on that roof since 12:15 PM So he's setting, he's setting up that shot. We can assume about eight minutes. Okay? It goes on. Although the individual moved out of the camera's view for a short time, the camera again captured the individual running across the roof and then low crawling to the area that the officer had recognized as where the suspected sniper had dropped into a prone shooting position after a short time, which matches the known time of the shot, the individual arose and then ran across the roof to the northeast.

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So nothing in here implies that he had, you know, taken apart the shotgun. That that, I mean, that just seems to be now removed from the narrative altogether. It goes on to read that, that this discovery led to an intensive review of UVU surveillance recordings to attempt to track and identify the suspect. Surveillance revealed the following, that at approximately 11:51 AM the suspect had entered campus from the north. He's wearing a black shirt with an American flag in its center, a dark baseball cap, large sunglasses. Throughout the surveillance, the suspect keeps his head down and rarely raises his head enough to get a clear image of his face. As he proceeds across the campus, he is seen walking with an unusual ga.

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The suspect walks with very little bending in his right leg, consistent with a rifle being hidden in his pants. This unusual gait continues until the suspect is seen crossing the railing off the open walkway and onto the roof where he leaves the camera's view. Okay, so the first thing I'm gonna say is they've only sent us screenshots, right? We've only seen a picture of him coming up the staircase. It looked to me like both his legs were bending. I don't see why they don't just release. Why don't they just release this fully so we can make sure that this is the same person that we see walking across with a limp, right? That footage, which was provided by TMZ also, you will notice that nowhere in this indictment as we go on, are they going to mention which Governor Cox spoke about.

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Like first he came in a different outfit. Remember Governor Cox said he was wearing, wearing the light shorts and maroon shirts. The implication here being that maybe he, he came to come scout, scout things to check things out. At first this is him, but then he comes back in the black outfit. This is missing from the indictment. And I'm wondering why, what is the explanation for that? That would be a part of it if you were scouting the shooting. Now they're just like, let's jump into the guy that is wearing black and we're not gonna give you footage. We're going to tell you that this is him. And you can assume that he slowly walked up this staircase and was obscuring his face from view. Okay? Then it tells us that a camera later captures the suspect.

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As he runs across the roof, he gets into the shooting position and then immediately after the shot was fired, we know. But he runs across carrying an item whose sh shape is consistent with a rifle. The suspect is then seen climbing down the roof. He appears to drop the item that he was carrying as he hits the ground in a controlled fall. He then picks up the item and runs toward the northeast end of the campus. It tells us that's how they then expand their crime scene investigation. They followed his escape path to the northeast end of the campus where they believe the suspect left campus and entered a wooded area. In that wooded area, investigators found a bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel.

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So again, there was no disassembly. It's wrapped in a towel, presumably. That's how he covered it. While he was running the rifle contained one spent round and three unspent rounds. This is consistent with the facts officers observed at the time of, and immediately after the shooting, there were no shell casings that were found on the roof suggesting a bolt action rather than an autoloading weapon. And only a single round was fired. Okay? Then they tell us what was actually inscribed. And these are essentially memes. Hay, fascist catch says one on one cartridge. You've got notices bulge. What's this on another cartridge?

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Oh, Bella Chow. Bella Chow. Bella Chow Chow Chow on a third cartridge. And on the fourth cartridge it reads, if you read this, you are gay. LMAO. Okay. They detailed that the rifle, the ammunition rounds, and the towel were then sent for forensic processing. And that the, the DNA was consistent with Robinson that was found on the trigger and other parts of the rifle, the fired cartridge casing, and two of the three un unfired cartridges and the towel. Okay? They were able to immediately locate the shooter. They were unable, pardon me, to immediately locate the shooter. So that's when they published the photos of the shooter from their surveillance and they asked for the public's help.

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Now we're gonna get a little bit more of a narrative change, right? They tell us that as they continued their investigation. On September 11th, Tyler James Robinson then walked into the Washington County Sheriff's Office and he's accompanied by his parents and a family friend to turn himself in. Okay? Now again, he didn't confess yet, but he's here to turn himself in. Robinson's mother stated the following to police that on September 11th, the day after the shooting, she saw the photo of the shooter in the news and thought that the shooter looked like her son. She then called her son and asked him where he was. He said he was at homesick and that he had also been homesick.

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On yesterday, September 10th, when the shooting occurred, Robinson's mother expressed concern to her husband that the suspected shooter looked like Robinson. So she's calling her husband and she's going, Hey, this kind of looks like our son. And then his father agrees that that looks like their son. So Robinson's mother explained off to the officers that over the last year or so, Robinson had become increasingly more political. He had started to lean more left. He was becoming more pro-gay and more trans right oriented that Robinson began to date his roommate, which is a biological male who was transitioning, transitioning genders. We're gonna get to him in a second.

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This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very difficult, different, pardon me, political views. In one conversation before the shooting, Robinson mentioned that Charlie Kirk would be holding this event at UVU, which Robinson said was a stupid venue for the event. Robinson accused Kirk of spreading hate. Robinson's father reported that when his wife showed him that surveillance image of a suspected shooter in the news, he agreed that it looked like their son. He also believed that the rifle that the police had suspected the shooter had used matched a rifle that was given to his son as a gift.

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And as a result, he then contacts his son and asks him to send a photo of the rifle that was gifted to him. Robinson did not respond to that. However, Robinson's father spoke on the phone with Tyler at that moment and Tyler implied that he planned to take his own life. Now, his parents were then able to convince him to, to meet at their home, not to do that. And as they discussed the situation, Robinson implied, implied is the word they use here, that he was the shooter and stated that he could not go to jail and that he just wanted to end things. When asked why he did it, Robinson explained that there was too much evil and that this guy, Charlie Kirk spreads too much hate.

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They talked about Robinson turning himself in and they convinced Robinson to speak with a family friend who happens to be a retired deputy sheriff. And at Robinson's father's request, the family friend met with Robinson and his parents and they convinced Robinson to turn himself in. Okay? Again, he did not confess, but he turned himself in and they then detail that. They tell him, Hey, look, also bring in any clothes that you used because you don't want the police to then have to search the property of your parents. So anything that you use need to bring over. Okay? That doesn't exactly make sense 'cause Robinson is living with his trans boyfriend.

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But that is apparently Robinson replies that at that moment that he had disposed of clothes in different area. So they're looking into that, okay, now we're getting to the roommate portion, which is very interesting to me. And I will tell you why. It's interesting to me because I obviously have had a lot of tips. I've had a lot of conversations with people that knew both of these individuals. When I say both, I'm referring to Tyler Robinson, who is being indicted, but also his boyfriend who has not been indicted. And the conversation that I am having is that Tyler's classmates and the neighborhood are very shocked that Tyler would be First and foremost involved in this at all.

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So right away they told me, no way this guy is wearing the same outfit from 33 hours ago. Because he was very tidy. He sort of kept to himself, but he worked with his hands and he was kind of a good person. There were no signs here. Like this seems to, this appears to them to be like, this is a very good family. And that there were certain narratives out there that didn't make sense to them. Like they could not compute them as it pertained to Tyler Robinson. Okay? And they're saying there's no way if, if like, they're not saying he couldn't have been involved. I, I very, very much wanna be clear. I believe that Tyler Robinson was involved on the basis of this evidence, but rather that there's no way he could have acted alone.

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That this had to be a part of some wider plot. Okay? And when I'm speaking to people that are close to this situation, what they are shocked about is the fact that only Tyler could have been arrested. Because it's a different perspective when it comes to Tyler's trans boyfriend. Okay? Tyler's trans boyfriend's name is Lance Twigs, and they are very shocked. In fact, the people that are intimately involved in the situation are saying, we thought he was definitely going to get charged because apparently, and again, I'm gonna say this, allegedly, he had been arrested or taken in on the same day.

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Now the media narrative is that that guy was being really cooperative. He had nothing to do with anything. Okay? We're gonna go through that. And again, I'm gonna tell you what his family is saying. I'm referring now to Lance Twig. So let's get to what the indictment tells us about him. Police interviewed Robinson's roommate, a biological male who was involved in a romantic relationship with Robinson. The roommate told police that he had received messages from Tyler Robinson about the shooting, and he provided those messages to police. And then it goes on describing those messages on September 10th, 2025. Oh wait, they're not telling us the time.

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I don't like that. I hope that's just, you forgot. But I need to know exactly when you're saying these messages were sent. Okay? 'cause I need to fit them into my timeline, okay? Clearly, on the basis of what I'm about to a basis of what I'm about to read, these messages had to have gone out after Charlie Kirk was shot. If I'm using my context clues, my blues clues to put things together. But they're not clear here. They just say on September 10th, 2025, no time given, the roommate received a text message from Robinson, which said, quote, drop what you are doing and look under my keyboard. The roommate Lance then looks under his keyboard and he finds a note that states quote, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it the structure that is weird.

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I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it. Okay? That's just structurally, that's not proper English. Okay? It's either I have, okay, or I had past tense. Again, not clear, police found a photograph of this note and the following text a change then took place. After reading that note, the roommate texts Tyler and he says, what you are joking writes, Robinson writes, I'm still okay my love, but I am stuck in a rem for a little while longer, yet shouldn't be long until I can come home. But I gotta grab my rifle.

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Still, To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you. The roommate replies you weren't the one who did it, right? Robinson replies, I am, I'm sorry. The roommate replies. I thought they caught the person. Robinson replies. No. They grabbed some crazy old dude that interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet almost enough to get out. But there's one vehicle still lingering. The roommate says, why? Robinson says, why did I do it? Roommate says, yeah, Robinson says, I had enough of his hatred.

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Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle on scene, I will have left No evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it. The roommate says, how long have you been planning this? Robinson says, A bit over a week, I believe I can get close to it, referring to the rifle. But there was a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don't, I don't wanna chance it. Robinson says, I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back grandpa's rifle. I don't know if it had a serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me.

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I worry about prints. I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits, didn't have the ability or time to bring it with. I might have to abandon it. And hopefully they don't find prints. How the f will I explain losing it to my old man. Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. What you're worried about explaining, losing the rifle to your father, not worried that you left the rifle and therefore it's obviously going to be found out. But the only thing that you left was the right, like the murder weapon.

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This is weird. This is very, this chain is weird to me. It's weird to me that we don't know what time. I don't know what he means. Where is he stuck here, guys? Do you have a clue here? I'm stuck in a rem for a little while longer. It shouldn't be long until I can come home. Is it a typo? I should have asked you guys. Oh, that's the, that's the town. Okay. Okay. That's the town. I'm stuck here for a little while longer. It shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. So is he, is this happening during lockdown? He tells him to, to to check under and and to see, oh, check under quickly and see, and I took care of it. And he's where, and now he's giving him a, an an accounting of exactly what's taken place, which means if this is right after, and they're still in lockdown, he's what?

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Monitoring the situation. 'cause this is gonna give us a timeline, whether they tell us when these messages happened or not. The fact that he already knows that they grabbed some crazy old dude and that they also interrogated someone in similar clothing, we're going to be able to go back and plot exactly when that happened. Or at least when the public was informed. Because this is this, this whole correspondence is very strange to me. It's very strange to me. He then is even more explicit. Talk about trying to cover your tracks, but then explicitly texting everything to your lover. He says, the only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel.

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Remember how I was engraving bullets? The f-ing messages are mostly a meme. If I see notices bulge on Fox News, I might have a stroke. All right, I'm gonna have to leave it. That really f-ing sucks. Okay? So if this is our guy, oh, we're not done. Let's finish. Finish. That really sucks. He's gotta leave it. And then he says, judging from today, I'd say Grandpa's gun does just fine. I think that was a $2,000 scope. And then he does a winky face and then he tells him, delete this exchange.

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And then Robinson says, my dad wants photos of the rifle. He says, grandpa wants to know who has what. The fed's released a photo of the rifle and it is very unique. He's calling me right now, not answering. His dad's calling him. Okay, well the dad, this is interesting. Is this, when is this text chain taking place? Okay, because we just heard that, you know, the dad, they figured it out the next day they're making it sound like this all happened back to back. Is this happening over two days? Why not tell us this instantly So I can work it into my timeline, okay. Of these messages, day one. And then what? They had no correspondence at all until he jumps right back in and says, my dad's calling me.

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Where were you when your dad called you? You guys live together. Why are you texting at all? Why didn't this kid immediately call if they're in lockdown and he needs to go back and get his rifle right? This kid could have, and I'm speaking about lands, could have contacted immediately and said, I'm, I'm getting a confession right now. I don't like that we are not being told the exact timestamp of these messages because you know, my timeline demands it to close. Loop on how this enters. Again, not knowing when this happened. Robinson says, my dad wants photos of the rifle. He says, grandpa wants to know who has what. The feds released a photo and it's very unique.

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He's calling me right now, not answering. Robinson says, well, since Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty diehard. MAGA Robinson says, I'm gonna turn myself in willingly. One of my neighbors is here. He is a deputy for the sheriff. Robinson says, you are all I worry about love. I'm much more worried. The roommate says, Lance says, I'm much more worried about you. Robinson says, don't talk to the media. Please don't take any interviews or make any comments. If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent. How you guys doing about that?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mark is gonna jump, jump on and say something. Go ahead Mark. Yeah, he's the guy that's always in my ear. You're breaking up a little bit. What'd you say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. These messages are clearly doctored is what I would say. They're doctored. Now they could decide why they're doing that. Tyler's being court, you know, forthcoming.

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We're protecting him in some capacity. I find that to be unacceptable. Okay? Unacceptable. I want every single text message I want timestamps. It's, it is conspicuous that you are not telling us when this was sent, because it sounds like it's when the campus is on lockdown and he is gotta go back and he's gotta clean up and then all of a sudden we're in the next day when his dad is getting clued in after the picture's been released, they're not telling us that. Okay? And you have a right to be a little bit uncomfortable about that because I'm a lot, a bit uncomfortable about that. We need full answers further to that point. I find it, I have found this strange from the beginning that for whatever reason we're not hearing too much about this Lance guy other than like, he's been extremely cooperative.

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He's handed over his messages. I am not implying that Lance was involved. I am implying that it's weird that we're not hearing more about him. Right? You're telling me he lived with the guy, you're telling me us now, but he's been texting with the guy about his plans. They're in love. Is nobody interested in learning more about this character? Okay, so Tyler's people are saying, Tyler's a good kid. People around Tyler, classmates are telling me he's a good kid. So I go into our tips box and it turns out that actually Lance Twigs family has tried to reach out to me over the weekend. Obviously I was in a very aggrieved state and I was not prepared to even accept that Charlie Kirk was not on this earth. Okay? And I realize that they're saying to me like, you know, we wanna speak with you and there's more than one family member that has reached out because we trust you and we don't trust the media.

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Good, good by me. They are, it sounds to me, a very good family. They're absolutely horrified by what has happened. And they are similarly perplexed by their not being more out there about the person he was living with. Especially because what they told me, and I can tell you this exclusively, is that the house that Tyler Robinson was living in with Lance is owned by them. Tyler Robinson is paying rent to them. Okay? So they know Lance, obviously, and I'm going to cushion this with allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.

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It isn't allegedly that this is his family members telling me these details, but it is definitely a, you know, allegedly what they say. And so we can hear both sides. Okay, I'm gonna pull this up because I took notes regarding Lance because I wanna know everything. Okay? Lance, they told us, went to live with his relative, so no longer in the house with his mother and father again. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. His parents kicked him out junior year of high school because he was problematic. He just had issues. And at that time, when they kicked him out, that wasn't exactly what they are saying, legal for them to have done that.

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But again, he went to live with relatives and he has issues. They, they say that he allegedly has a lot of issues with drinking That Christmas, approximately three years ago, he almost overdosed. He drank a bottle of vodka. They are telling me that they were there, they were present, present for this. And fear began to spread about whether or not even the family would be able to take care of him because of issues that he was having. Okay? He graduates high school and then essentially the extended family says, you know, we, we can't keep you in our home because of his behavior. Just this past Easter Sunday.

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They are telling me that he showed up on drugs and he was spouting out of his mouth about political stuff. And at this point they felt that he could not be around children. That they felt that he had become increasingly more radical, increasingly more dangerous. And just sort of off the rails. They said that they, he, they're unhappy that the media is presenting him in this like manner. Like he's just this kinda like soft, soft guy or like, you know, person that was just transitioning. There's like nothing problematic. There's no prodding. They don't buy the story, okay? Lance's family is telling me that they are not buying the current story and that they feel that more people are involved.

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First and foremost, they say that a lot of information should be able to be discerned by his devices because he was, according to them, deep web, okay? This is the person that is deep on the internet. They said that he was quite reclusive, that he was always on his devices, that he's always on the web and that there should be more information that comes from there. Okay? He turned 22, they told me back in August and that he was, as I said, very into this dark web stuff. I asked what he was doing for work. Like how are they, how are, how are they even able to pay you guys rent? And they told me that he was doing some plumbing work with somebody else in the family.

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They told us that Tyler and Tim had been living together for at least a year, that they had not met Tyler despite the fact that Lance had wanted to foster that meeting. That they, the two of them, this couple, Tyler and Lance were living in that town home that is owned by Lance's family. And that Tyler was paying rent to Lance. And Lance then, of course was forwarding that payment to them. Now, I had asked them about another persistent rumor that is arriving in my inbox, which people are saying who live in the neighborhood, that they noticed some unusual traffic. And the, this individual family member said to me, yep, we are hearing the exact same thing, that they would prod that narrative further.

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But there were some unusual traffic, a lot of cars that were seen outside leading up to the shooting in the days before the shooting or the week before the shooting. I'll straighten out that timeline for you and get real specific. 'cause that's, I I will pin down when exactly this was happening. But leading up to the shooting up, there were unusual, unusual traffic in the driveway where Tyler Robinson and Lance lived cars that were not recognized in the neighborhood. They, they, this was not a couple that hosted people. It wasn't like they were expecting them to have parties. And so other people are saying that that is something that struck them as odd. There was unusual traffic at this house in the weeks leading up to this shooting.

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And again, I will perfect that timeline of exactly when, and I have gone out to people for evidence of that. But there were apparently lots of different license plates and that therefore caused a little neighborhood, you know, kerfluffle because other people were not able to park their cars. 'cause there were so many people that were at this house. Unusual traffic. Again, we are prodding that narrative. We are taking a look at everybody because if I don't feel good about what we're hearing, okay? And Lance Twigs family doesn't feel good about what we're hearing and we've got decoy boy who's apparently involved in some deep internet stuff. I would say it's a fair way to describe it.

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Decoy boy, okay, George Zinn, there's more people involved. That's what I'm gonna say to you guys. There is very clearly more people involved. Okay? This feels to me like a conspiracy and am I emotionally invested in this? Yes. Somebody said something to you're unstable. Yeah, you know what? You're right. I have been destabilized by watching Charlie Kirk catch a bullet in his neck and then being gaslit and told nothing to see here. We've got people all around him that are telling little lies. I don't like this.

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Okay? This doesn't feel clean to me. I need timestamps. If you're gonna be transparent, be transparent. I'm not saying that you're being dishonest, that you have these text messages. I am saying that I need them in my timeline, okay? And it's, it's, it is just weird that you're giving exact times about certain things and then suddenly you're like, you know what? We don't need to be so exact anymore and we can just extrapolate what we need to tell the public a certain narrative, okay? We, the public don't need a narrative. We need every single plausible detail. If we are ever going to regain any trust in the authorities post Epstein world, okay? We're living in a post Epstein world.

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It doesn't fly with us. That's not it. You guys, I have more to tell you, I am going to, I guess at first let's get through some ads and I'm, we're gonna get into Bill Ackman's. I don't even know how to describe it. It's just wandering excuse or wandering answer to our episode yesterday, which really didn't say anything. And I've got more people reaching out to us. People that were at the event, people are at Turning Point USA. We got some questions to ask and I'm gonna ask all of them because guess what? I don't take money from donors. So you got a problem here. I don't want your money. I don't need your money. What I want and I need is the truth.

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Okay? So I wanna be very clear here. No one, and I mean absolutely no one outside of my husband and Erica Kirk has the power to shut me up right now. That's it. Two people, if you gotta make an appeal, you gotta go to them, okay? That's what I just said is meant to be a dig to the donors that are making frantic calls, trying to politic this situation under control because they know I'm telling the truth. Okay? Frantic calls from Seth Dylan. Oh my God. The truth is that Charlie was under immense pressure and he was face facing financial threats over his shifting stance on Israel over who he was hosting over on from his podcast to people that were on stage at America Fest, Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson.

0 (40m 52s):
That is reality. My friends, again, want those people to know your money means nothing to me. I already said no to it. That's why I don't care to be in those circles. Make me persona non grata. I know what I did wrong. I looked you in your face and I said no to your money. Okay? Don't push me or I will name more names. What happens in the Hamptons is not going to stay in the Hamptons. Okay? Bring in our movie poster. I know what you did this summer. Okay? Gotta add Josh Hammer's face to that poster as well, because suddenly everybody's talking. So let's buckle up for some more indisputable facts. Okay? People that were at this weekend soiree in which Aaron Wexler sent out some of the invitations to, they're confirming that Charlie was pressed.

0 (41m 43s):
Now this was a multi-day weekend, but they're, they're all like, yeah, no, at every layer Charlie was facing pressure questions from Seth Dylan. There's no way around that truth that they were not happy with his position, his modified position, I have it on first person account, that on the first day of the retreat, of which there were smaller meetings that took place, and then like, you know, the retreat itself, Charlie presented and he explained that he felt that it was wrong, that he couldn't publicly criticize Israel. He apparently used an example that if he tweeted, and again, we're we're riffing here, but something along the lines of Charlie said, if I tweeted, I think that BB net and Yahoo should resign, that he would then be unfairly attacked.

0 (42m 30s):
And Seth Dylan then allegedly, he pipes up and goes back and forth with him quite aggressively saying like, yeah, because that would be antisemitic. I heard that after Charlie left, Josh Hammer was upset. Josh Hammer, I know for a fact was a part of the beehive that was swarming him about people that he was having at his conferences. I know for a fact. So if you'd like to dispute that, Josh Hammer and release your text messages and pretend that you were just what? Chill and supportive and thumbs up. Cool. I welcome you on this platform, okay? You are allowed to literally sit next to me and say, that isn't reality.

0 (43m 11s):
And here's how it all went down when I was the greatest supporter and I never cared about who he had, even though I got destroyed in debate by Dave Smith on his stage. I was cool with that. I was, I love free speech. It's amazing. Okay? I'm offering you my platform to do that. I'm, I'm not here, I'm not in the business of smearing, okay? I need answers. And I don't like the fact that people are telling small lies and they're misrepresenting things. Okay? Now, as I have said multiple times, what I am uncovering here is a response to what I feel was a severe misrepresentation by Bibe and his echo here in America, of which I would say Josh Hammer and s are part of that echo, okay?

0 (43m 53s):
I am in no way attacking that narrative and associating it with the events that took place on Utah's campus. But I don't like little lies. So let's attack this lead up, okay? Let's attack this lead up because there's no reason for BB to have lied. As I've said many times, we talked about Bill Ackman a lot yesterday. I talked about BB Netanyahu, the phone call, the do you wanna come to Israel? Kind of trip kind of thing. That to me, as I've experienced, has been a lace threat. When I was going off the reservation of Israel by asking perfectly sensible questions, I kind of got these invites from people. Like, once you speak to this person, you'll see things.

0 (44m 34s):
Anyways, bill Blackman responds to yesterday's episode. Okay? And I have it, hold on. I, I, I actually, I printed this out. Let me find it. Okay, here, it's actually right here in front of me. There are two ways to describe his response. I would describe it either as A-A-C-V-S receipt. You buy one item, next thing you know, you're holding, holding 27 pages and you don't know why. I don't understand. I bought one chapstick and here we are. You can also describe it as like an online recipe. You know, something looks good. Lucille online recipe. I wanna make that you wanna know how to make lattes. But first homemade Chef Ackman has to tell you about how this recipe reminds him of his Bubbie's house and that Hanukkah that they spent in Israel and all the kids love it.

0 (45m 17s):
And, and you're like, bro, just how many cups of shredded potato? Please, please just give us the ingredients. This is his tweet. I I printed his tweet out on two pages. Okay? I don't know. You gotta bring back the word count. The Twitter was not meant, meant for this, okay? And because I will not be teaching a seminar on, or this semester on, on Ackman's 955 word response, I'll just provide you here with the, the highlights, okay? So he sets it up that he's a victim of something that never happened. Everybody watched my episode yesterday, okay?

0 (45m 57s):
I never said the sentence Bill Ackman blackmailed Charlie Kirk. That never happened. But of course he's doing the typical like, you know, the Israeli brand thing is I'm a victim and lemme tell you why I'm a victim. So he just sets it up and I don't know why he's putting these things in parentheses of Charlie's supposed evolving stance. Okay? We can watch clips of that in a little bit. It's not supposed and saying it's supposed does it make it so, but he then says Candace also intimated that I quote unquote blackmailed Charlie, no full sentence there. 'cause I never said it, I never said, bill Ackman blackmailed Charlie, there was a file presented, do this or else, okay? And I wouldn't have said that.

0 (46m 38s):
Okay? The first five paragraphs of this never ending tweet are regarding how he met Charlie, which is not something that was ever in contention. Okay? I followed Charlie Kirk on x, I admired him, I connected him. Oh, dms may of this year expressed interest. We got on Zoom, we talked to this on Zoom, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay? You just can just delete it. Nobody cares. Not a single person cares. He then takes us through how the weekend event came together, and he even provides us with a detailed itinerary of that event. I mean, I don't, I don't know if you needed to hear the itinerary.

0 (47m 18s):
He gets so detailed that he even has this sentence here where he wants us to know, wants us to know that it was even quote unquote punctuated by meals. Oh. Oh, okay. That's good to know that the event, those who attended it, the sessions were punctuated by meals. I don't care, bill. I literally don't care at all what you ate. I, I, I, as I understand there was an itinerary, I just don't care. Conspicuously missing. Okay? Then it kind of wraps it up. And he is like, in short, this was not an intervention to blackmail Charlie into adopting certain views on Israel. It was nothing of the sort.

0 (47m 59s):
Okay, buddy, I never said you blackmail Charlie. I asked you if this moment happened. I asked you about BB net and Yahoo. I asked you about whether or not there was pressure that was put on Charlie, which the attendees themselves are telling me that this happened. Okay? So what's going on here? Also, it's rather conspicuous given yesterday's episode. And of course he had a big timing here. Like I shouldn't even respond. You know, he shown widow, you know, widow, I just love billionaires, right? They're just so full of themselves. They are so, their arrogance matches their bank accounts. Like, oh, we should like, oh, he's got billions. Let's just take it. Let's just, oh my, well, he couldn't do anything wrong yet. You, you need to answer basic questions.

0 (48m 40s):
And we gave you an opportunity to do that. Conspicuously missing is you not addressing whether or not Charlie was offered more money and funding from Bibi net and Yahoo. Could you help us out whether or not Bibi Netanyahu invited him to Israel as a last ditch effort to reaffirm his support for Israel? Or if as I asserted and as I maintain, Charlie was being pressured throughout this event about his viewpoints on Israel, and to him, he reflected that this felt like an intervention. Okay, can you answer those basic questions? That would be great. Like I said, it's, it's interesting. I didn't even mention BB Netanyahu at all. You can stand up to him. Is, is, and does anybody wanna jump in and say no?

0 (49m 20s):
Yeah, the letter Charlie wrote him in May was just like a glowing, he just want, he just was overcome with passion and said, I love Israel. You guys are amazing. You're beautiful. You're, we're gonna win this thing, and you're perfect and doing nothing wrong. Love you, beepy. I just find that weird that no one wants to address the substance of the claims here. Whether or not maybe, maybe Bill himself has an opinion on whether Bibb lied by severe omission when he mentioned his last correspondences with Charlie. Because I feel like if Charlie said, I don't wanna go to Israel, maybe don't bring up, I just invited him. I guess if it was friendly and everything was great and he was just gonna come out, and sadly he won't be able to make it out here.

0 (50m 3s):
And regarding, you know, just the public here. If you're trying to decide what's real and what's fake, whether or not what we're telling you is real or fake, you can take Charlie in his own words. I mean, shout out to Village crazy lady on X. She's a great follow. She just reads Bill Ackman's diatribe and says, okay, she goes to the itinerary. Bill Ackman just confirmed that he hosted his meeting with Charlie on August 4th and fifth. Here's Charlie talking to Megan and Kelly the very next day on August 6th. Now, how do you think that meeting went down? Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you that That's the next day, okay? That is the next day that Charlie sits down and vents his frustration about how he is being treated.

0 (50m 44s):
Take Charlie in his own words. And by the way, yesterday we only showed one portion of what Charlie said to Meghan on that show. Go watch the full thing. Remember, he's with Bill, he's with Seth, he's in the Hamptons. Bill just confirmed that gratefully. And then suddenly he's overcome with a need to vent about the pressure that both he and Meghan are facing as people that have traditionally always supported Israel. Let's take Charlie in his own words. Take a listen.

3 (51m 11s):
I, my contention here is that some in the pro-Israel camp are so knee jerk about calling you anti-Semitic or getting deeply offended if you say anything that doesn't align with their narrative, that it undermines their own cause. And I have to tell you, I find it very irritating because I do feel like some of us have earned the right to have some credibility on the subject of Israel, and don't wanna be called those names when we have some mild pushback on some of the overreaches, whether it's, you know, whether they're winning or losing the propaganda war right now.

3 (51m 52s):
And my contention is they've begun to lose it. And I realize it's propaganda coming at us from Hamas. But they, their, their numbers have turned here in America. They've turned not so much with Republicans, a little bit with Republicans, but, but completely with the Democrat party and with independence, they, they have shifted mightily from at least double digits highs to single digit lows. Now, with the, with, when it comes to approval and also with respect to you, and I speculated about this at the Turning Point event, whether the possibility of Jeffrey Epstein possibly being a Mossad agent or asset or affiliated with that's been turned around on me too, to you must be anti-Semitic.

3 (52m 32s):
What the hell? That's such bullshit. The same people who say you can criticize Israel, that's fine. We won't call you antisemitic. If you criticize Israel now turn around immediately and say you're antisemitic for even raising that. I completely reject that. And I raised this as a pushback against my friends on that particular strain of the aisle to watch it. Because you don't wanna alienate people who are openly your friends by going nuts in your crackdowns on mild pushback on anything related to Israel. Now you take it.

4 (53m 7s):
I'm so, I'm, I'm so glad you brought this up. And I would second that, Megan, I think I have a bulletproof resume showing my defense of Israel, both on campus, on social media to, to great, you know, let's just say mockery and scorn at times where I, 'cause I believe it, right? I, I believe in the scriptural land rights given to Israel. I believe in fulfillment of prophecy. And again, I'm not a theologian, but I'm a Christian. My life was changed in Israel. The spiritual energy is so amazing there. I I want them to win. I've said that repeatedly. Same. And however, Megan, you're hitting on something very potent and important.

4 (53m 48s):
Now, let me first say, I don't want to judge an entire group because there's been many people in the perra world that have been very sweet, very kind, very nuanced, very Charlie, you know, you are with us. You don't have to agree all the time. How, and I, and I will say this, the behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away. Not like we're gonna be pro Hamas, not like we're gonna, but we're like, honestly, the way you are treating me is so repulsive. I have text messages. Meghan calling me an anti-Semite. I am learning ridiculous biblical Hebrew and writing a book on the Shabbat. I honor the Shabbat, literally the Jewish Sabbath. I visit Israel and fight for it.

4 (54m 28s):
And there's another article out in the Times of Israel today. I could read it on air. I was just reading before I got on Charlie, what are you doing? Like, why are you, what am I doing? I'm sorry. Like, let's just take a step back here.

0 (54m 43s):
I can tell you right now, from the energy that is coming out of him, the energy that is coming out of Meghan is where I was two years ago. Okay? I've been there. You can't, you can't even lie to, you can't even attempt to lie to me about what is pouring off of both of them. I was someone who spent my life, my political life, defending Israel didn't really mean anything to me. It seemed like a good, you know, argument on its surface that we should support them. They're the only democracy in the release. Okay? Now I know that that's not even true, but like who, who care? I'm, I was just like pro America and I wanted to focus on BBL M and getting black America better. And then that happened. I said one thing and suddenly like, whoa, whoa. It was like they just line up. Like you're just be, it's like Agent Smith, okay?

0 (55m 24s):
It's like Agent Smith in the majors. How many can there be all saying the same thing? And then they gaslight you. They make you think you're crazy because they're like, why don't you understand why what you did is really wrong? I remember this, I remember the tweet. I said, no person, nobody, no nation anywhere in the world has a right to commit genocide. And I was suddenly being flooded with me people, Dave, Dave Rubin. I remember this. I was like, what did you mean by that? And then they text me. It's like, we can help you. You can help me. What? I said something that made sense, like, this should not offend anybody. Nobody has genocides not cool, right? Did something change? Where was I? Hmm? It's when you tweeted it and like you could have been clearer, you should have added that Israels would never do that.

0 (56m 8s):
I'm like, okay, you guys are being insane. This statement stands, I was referring to Brian Mass remarks, but even if I wasn't and I just tweeted, genocide is always wrong. That tweet should always be right. I can feel that energy. Okay? When you're not sure who your friends are, they're starting to gaslight you. They're making you think you are going crazy for having sensible positions and there's no halfway house for this, okay? I can tell you that you are either going to take being kicked in the chest, okay, and told Get out, and then suddenly they're all communicating behind your back and just where he talks about that article, something goes out and suddenly it's like, you know what's going on.

0 (56m 51s):
They're, they're like trying to make you think you're going crazy because you're saying some sensible stuff. Charlie was at that moment, he says that he's receiving messages calling him an antisemite. So how can you lie right now and dispute it and better question, why are you lying? I don't like little lies. I'm being contacted by a lot of people, people that are telling me at just within 48 hours before Charlie passed away, his top Jewish donors were pulling funding from him, demanding that Charlie take their name off of the building that they had donated to Turning Point. I guess I, I can figure out who that is.

0 (57m 31s):
How many people could have donated a building and then once Charlie was killed, they said, nevermind. Put it back on the building. Okay. Charlie himself had alluded to a tremendous loss of money coming in and we will, we'll speak about that more. More people are going to come out with information. This is all inevitable, okay? And I'll also point you in this direction. You guys remember Bibe recently was on a PR blitz despite the fact that he was, you know, fighting this 96,000 front war because Israel didn't do nothing. Okay? He was doing a ton of podcasts in America. He went on to Patrick be David's podcast. He went onto Brendan Tatum's podcast, he went onto the Knelt Boys podcast.

0 (58m 12s):
Anybody find it weird? He didn't do. Charlie Kirk show. Homey very quickly told us that Charlie was implied, that Charlie was penning love letters to him in May. I just love you so much. It's amazing. They were so close. Boys just hits him up like, Hey, I know we're fighting this 97,000 front war because we're always the victims, but do you wanna just come and maybe stay at my place for the weekend here in Israel? Like that's the vibe that Bebe was rushing to present to the media. So why didn't you do Carly Kirk show? Hmm. I'll leave it as a question for you guys. Common sense. Common sense, okay, I don't like small lies. And remember Bebe started this. I am responding to his shamelessness shameless misrepresentation of what Charlie was going through and what Charlie was saying because, and I wanna be clear to me right now, it feels, and I'm using a corporate term here, a bit like a hostile takeover, okay?

0 (59m 8s):
Charlie builds the company organically on the basis of Charlie and Charlie's honest ideas. Suddenly that company's got a lot of money and Charlie's honest ideas are starting to change or maybe add more color and now he's getting financial threats. He's being called names. He increasingly, he's being told who and what he's allowed to speak to and he's taking a stance. He is, he's taking a stand privately up to these people and then it doesn't matter anymore because Charlie's dead. And those very same people who were pressing him are now doing like very quickly trying to set in stone that, oh, Charlie, essentially the energy is, Charlie died for Israel.

0 (59m 53s):
He's just, he's just one of us. Nobody ask any more questions. That is literally untrue and we're not going to allow it, okay? It's just not true. I'm getting even you more interesting tips coming from Turning Point employees something again that I didn't even realize until they said it. Do you guys notice that like Bill Ackman says this thing and drops the itinerary, but I've worked for Turning Point for two years. You've seen Turning Point in the public. Have you ever heard of Turning Point doing a a weekend summit and not publicizing it? In fact, none of those attendees you'll remember, they were taking pictures at in the Hamptons and all dolled up. There was this whole ring debate happening about a girl who had gotten engaged. I think her name was Sarah Stockton and they said her ring was too small and they called her a, A broke B-I-T-C-H.

0 (1h 0m 40s):
There was this whole drama that was happening, which will unpack a different day. Maybe I'll leave today's on this tidbit, but those people never mentioned that they were in the Hamptons for a Turning Point event or for a Turning Point weekend, which Bill is saying why is that? Were they told not to say anything about being at that event because Bill Ackman's being very open about it, but they weren't open about it at that time. We'll leave there. We'll just, we will leave it right there. Okay? I will just add here that the response to me asking these questions, it is like, if you want to know why everyone hates like rabid supporters of Israel, it's because they never change their tune, right?

0 (1h 1m 21s):
They're like in the comments being like, bill Ackman, sue her, take her money, take, just take her money. That's it. That's how we win. That's what they always do. They threaten to sue you. They threaten to smear you to libel you. How dare you even ask the questions. This is this chick, I don't even know what her name is, her real name is, but like the gay who straight is how she goes. This is what like before Charlie died, I'm not getting a week before he died, this was her tweet to him. I'm gonna show you how sick these people are. Okay? Do you have that tweet Skylar? Oh, okay. Well she tweeted this whole thread about how Charlie Kirk had to distance himself from Tucker Carlson. She was one of the people creating online pressure.

0 (1h 2m 1s):
Charlie, you know, Tucker Carlson has gone a bridge too far, you know, blah blah blah, blah, blah, and Charlie's gonna ruin his company again. There's always the threats, always a threat of money. And yes, she, she happens to be Jewish, okay? And then Charlie dies and she's like, oh my gosh, I can't this person, I was just saying like, you know, kind of, you know, light little, oh do this or else to pray for Charlie Kirk and now she's arrived at this Bill Ackman thing and she's sue her. Just sue Sue. That's how we win. We crush them economically. We're sick of this. We are all of us collectively the globe, we're tired of you guys, okay?

0 (1h 2m 42s):
It's always about money threats, all of this stuff. It's ridiculous. Do what we say or we'll ruin your life. We're gonna call up all our friends and we'll just start writing hit pieces about you and we'll destroy you. Do what we say or we'll have you canceled. We'll have your sponsor shit dropped. Do what we say or we'll make sure that you're fired. We'll put pressure so that you can't earn an income. If you're still not gonna listen to us and you survive that, we're gonna sue you for everything you have. You guys suck, okay? We don't care about your money. We are tired of it. This reveals who you are, not who I am. The truth should be enough. I've offered him my platform. If there is more you'd like to say, bill, things you'd like to clarify, again, my platform is yours even though I know you're so highfalutin and above us.

0 (1h 3m 24s):
He even says in that tweet by the way, he says like speaking about how much you know it, they just don't care about you billionaires. He's like, and the fact that she monetized her video, something along those lines like talking about yesterday's episode. Oh my god, how can she read ads? Oh, oh, are you the same Bill Ackman that made an absurd amount of money while we were in COVID lockdowns and we couldn't work? Are you the same Bill Ackman who like turned that into like billions? I'm pretty sure you are. So maybe check yourself, okay, I'm so sick of this. Nobody can make money but us. By the way, the person that was in the Hamptons, other people that were at the Hams that are all talking about this said Bill Ackman got up and gave a presentation and told them that they shouldn't own property and they should give money to like, you know, stocks.

0 (1h 4m 6s):
That's how they can be successful. They just wanna rule over us all, don't they? Allegedly, that's what he said. The lackman, you can reply. Did you tell people that they shouldn't own property? When you gave your presentation on this now infamous meeting at in the Hamptons, which wasn't publicized until I publicized it. I don't know, I'm just asking questions. Are we allowed to do that or are you gonna sue me? You're gonna crush me, you're gonna impoverish us all. Why are you guys like, this is my question Laura Loomer in too. This is, this is like how, how Bill, I guess wins the argument. They're like, bill gave money. It's all about money all the time. Bill Ackman says he's offering a million dollars to whoever information, any information he has regarding the person who assassinated Charlie Kirk.

0 (1h 4m 46s):
And then she attacks me yesterday and she's like, bill Ackman gave a million dollars. Candace, what did you give? What did you give? I don't know, two years of my effing life to Charlie helping him build things. Why is everything about money to you? Why do you think having money makes you a decent human being? Why are you so soulless? What is wrong with you? Do you understand that spiritually something is wrong with you if your instinct, just so you guys know, regular people don't behave like that, I want you you to know 'cause you made me, I don't think you recognize your own flaws. When regular people have like a little tiff, they just have a conversation, okay? So like if I have a disagreement and I say it's not what I did, I don't say I'm gonna destroy your life, okay?

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I'm gonna make you lose your job and I'm gonna sue you. Okay? That's a demonic force that lives in you that you have to know your in your money. Instinct is not right. It's crazy and everyone's paying attention to it. Answer the questions and I will publish the truth the end. Read a couple of ads. I said I wasn't gonna freak out today. Hey, I did freaked out a little bit right there at the end. I'm trying to calm down.

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Wow, 260,000 people watching live you guys, that is amazing. That makes me feel so good because I know that that number represents the people who are waking up. This is not left or right. I don't care. Do stop trying to make this a trans issue or right. That holds debate. It's low, guys. I'm telling you that, that that is not where we need to be right now. As a society, we are fighting evil people who rule over us and impact both sides. Okay? That's the wake up call. That's the wake up call we all need right now. And I hope that people are waking up to that fact as we look into what happened here. Going to get into some of your comments here. I am totally in the wrong document.

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Okay, first up, we have Anna PI think this is the first one, right? Am I right? Anna P. Okay. I am in totally the wrong document. I don't even have the right document up. Give me just a second. No, you're good. It's cool. I can just go backwards. I just, for whatever reason was looking at the timeline 'cause I've been reading from these notes. Okay. First up in the comments we have Jenna V, who writes, thank you for speaking truth. Rest in peace. Charlie, thank you so much for your support. Larissa writes, I pray that you are protected throughout this investigation. At any time the enemy tries to lift their hand against you. They are redirected in Jesus' name. Let's get to the bottom of the corruption. We do. This is the case.

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This is the case. We're not letting this one go. Alma Coronado writes, sending You Love from Douglas, Arizona. I'm sending you guys love back and thank you for that donation. Thank you to everyone who went on to my website and bought a hat. One of our CIA hats bought a T-shirt and supported us because they're gonna sue us all. We're gonna sue you until you agree, okay? I've threatened to sue you and have lawyers involved and we will crush you because we're really good people is what they say. And the rumors aren't true. Okay, now that we all got it out of our system, Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue. Read some more comments. S 61 writes, Mabel Lord continue to keep you strong and protected as you continue to reveal the truth.

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Thank you guys. Keep the prayers up. I am telling you they help pray. Pray every day, go to church. I love seeing the people who are like something about that moment is when you woke up and realized we are fighting real spiritual evil. And you felt inclined to go to church. Maple Leaf Girl writes, please look into Governor Cox. He's a corrupt rhino. He stole the election. I've gotten a lot of emails that are saying that I, I obviously know nothing about that election. He stole the election to reinsert himself as the governor reach out to Phil Lyman, who ran against Cox and was chosen as the Republican candidate by the delegates, the delegates. And Eric Musos was the LEO and has dealt with Zinn in the past.

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That's an interesting tidbit and I will look into all of those things. Mia writes, praying for your safety. We need truth. And I trust only you right now. Thank you. And especially, I wanna say thank you to Lance's family because I know this is not an easy time for you. And she was telling me, and he was telling me, most people that I spoke to in that family were saying that they were receiving all sorts of phone calls from people that are just looking up their last name and thinking like, oh, you must support this or whatever. They're like, no, like our values irrespective of politics. These are not our values. We are horrified by this. And remember that, just remember that.

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Don't harass people un unless you're certain that they would possibly agree with this. And they, they do not agree with this and they want answers just as much as we do. Chips writes the text chain from Tyler to his boyfriend. No 22-year-old, no 22-year-old uses perfect grammar in a text chain, commas and periods. Something about that text chain is telling me we need a little bit more about that text chain. Stephen Carrington writes, may God and Jesus forever have your back. Thank you so much. Steven Bible with Bell writes, don't believe these texts for a second. He was worried about leaving evidence. Then conveniently text our detail. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I do not wanna leave any evidence other than this very elaborate text chain that tells you my exact open and close motive and why I did this and that I acted alone and that it was to, I was totally, you are totally surprised by it.

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It feels a little fake and gay. And I tell you guys, it feels a little fake and gay. And there will be no fakeness and no gayness in this investigation. Nothing but truth. It's all I require from everybody. Mind tricks writes casings, BS, casings. RBS. Okay, you guys gotta just write the full word. Okay? I'm not good at slang. He was intending to retrieve the gun. Why would he write the messages? Text messages also looked fake. This whole thing is fishy. Nobody talks like that, especially after he murders someone. No way. Yeah. Like even talking about, and this is why I inscribed this on the casings, like are you trying to get away with it or are you not trying to get away with it?

0 (1h 14m 47s):
Because this is a conflict for me and we're gonna need a timeline. I need evidence of these text messages. Grooving with Christ writes, I believe the Catholic Church should honor Charlie Kirk's legacy of courage. And I'm wavering truth by making him a saint. His sacrifice deserves eternal recognition. God bless you always, Candace. Well, the decision is not up to me, obviously. And what I do know is that irrespective the response to this globally has been amazing. All of you guys, the tags that I'm seeing all over the world, the football players, the singers, I'm gonna show you guys tomorrow, like Jamie Lee Curtis, she's on the left, right? And she was crying over this totally different politics.

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It's important to realize that this impacted people who have a soul and they have removed us from our soul and have us warring with each other like we are so in our minds warring about these ideas, not realizing they're poisoning us. And I mean that physically, but more importantly spiritually, we are fighting real demons. And if you are on the left, you are not my enemy. If you fallen in for ideologies, I did too. Okay? I, I've come out on the other side. We have to now meet in the middle and we need to look at the true evil that rules over us. Okay? And I think that is a great place to stop. Oh, we've got two more comments here. Lucy writes, we love you Candace.

0 (1h 16m 12s):
We have your back yesterday to today, tomorrow, and forever. Thank you so much. Lucy and I. Lucy, Marion, and Bain writes, love you Candace from Saudi Arabia. Thank you. You are my spirit animal. God bless you and keep you safe and your family. Thank you for being the source of sanity. You are absolutely right. It is good versus evil. And I also wanna say there are more of us than them. That was a a, a Charlie Kirk thing. He said to me, what is the one thing that every slave, that every slave civilization has had since the beginning of mankind and what they have in common? Pardon? And the answer is that there was always more slaves than masters, which is something to consider.

0 (1h 16m 52s):
There is more of us than there are of them. And I think that's why they're in a panic because we're waking up. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

9/15/25
They Are Lying About Charlie Kirk. | Candace Ep 235

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All right, you guys, we're gonna jump right into this with no introduction. There's a lot that I would like to speak with you guys about. Can't wait to hear your feedback. A lot of lies that are being put out there, narratives that I would say are half truths or just misrepresentations entirely, and I don't really see the reason for that. First and foremost, to let you know, last week was not a dream. Charlie Kirk, my friend, is dead and he was publicly executed. I wanna make that clear. Charlie Kirk was publicly executed before the world, and as we are all searching for answers, the ones that are being supplied to us are not making a lot of sense. And some people, I would say are speaking too much, are speaking on behalf of other people.

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I don't like it. I will say something that I think brought the world a lot of relief. Also, you know, sadness, we were grieving with her was when his wife, Mrs. Erica Kirk, addressed not just the nation, but the entire world. Her words were very powerful, and we just have a very brief portion of her remarks, which you sh you should pursue in their entirety. But here she is.

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If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world, you have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry to everyone listening tonight across America.

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The movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen. It will not die.

1 (2m 31s):
Beautiful, powerful words. Charlie had just one wife. What we got to see across this weekend is that there were so many people around the world, like she said, who were deeply moved by Charlie Kirk throughout their lives and of course have been deeply moved by this tragedy and what she is describing there at fire. A lot of us are feeling it. I am definitely feeling it. I had a very tough weekend, a very tough weekend. I will say this, my entire life, I've not been much of a crier. It is not my choice emotion. I'm not a person who burst into tears. And many, some people are like that. This weekend I didn't just cry, I wept, I wept, I wept for Charlie.

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Obviously I didn't make it through the tribute to him on Friday. And for those of you who wanted to see me in a moment of weakness that was delivered to you. Fair? Yeah. I watched my friend get shot in the neck. Yeah, that's what happened. I just wanna say that he was publicly executed again before the world. The question is why, right? You know, when you are in a state of grief, you go through a lot of emotions, and I'm arriving right now at a lot of anger. The audacity of some people. It has taken much restraint and prayer, and I had to speak with a priest.

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I had to go to confession. These emotions that I am having, wanting to respond with Charlie in his own words. Really, people that are coming forward and saying, this is what he thought and this is how he should be remembered. It just feels really inappropriate to me. I didn't know what to do other than to scroll through messages between me and Charlie regarding which there are a ton of them, and kept going back and watching the video, the many videos of us dancing to the song power, and it felt appropriate to, to reach out to, to ye speaking about things, talking about his mode when he wrote the song, you know, when you wrote the song Power, why did we have it as our how?

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Our hype song? Because the song is about the ability to find it within yourself to become what you know you are capable of becoming inside of a matrix when you just realize everything is dishonest, that everything is performative, that people are dishonest, that they are going to try to stop you from being great. In fact, it's the end of the song. The question that he asks at the end of the song. That's the most important. Yay asks, do you have the power to let power go? Do you have the power to say no to power? You know, I told you guys that Charlie was going through a spiritual transformation at the end, and all of the usual suspects were really angry that I hinted towards that.

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What do you mean you're not allowed to say that? They were attacking me, trying to make me fearful to speak out and speak about the things that I know. I'm not feeling very fearful right now. I am, like I said, very angry. And I found, you know, Charlie's favorite portion of the song, I'll show you the text between him and I, because this feels very relevant right now. This is, again, lyrics directly from the song Power. But I just needed time alone with my own thoughts, got treasures in my mind, but couldn't open up my own vault. My childlike creativity, purity and honesty is honestly being crowd crowded by these grown thoughts.

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Reality is catching up with me taking my inner child. I'm fighting for custody with these responsibilities that they entrusted me. And that's a moment where he is really speaking about how hard it is. Like when you're saying, no, this is what I believe. And they say, you're not allowed to believe that. You feel like you are fighting for custody of yourself. And I wanna be very clear that I believe in fact, I know that towards the end, Charlie was fighting for custody of himself. I wanna say that. I wanna say that plainly. And there are lies that are being told and they need to be slapped down. Right now, there's one person who's been out there acting like he is a widow.

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You know, just saying the absolute most tweeting first about what happened to Charlie following minute to minute, you know, and doing hits in a foreign country, right? Like making time to do hits on Fox News. Two of them, BPE Netanyahu is who's fighting, I think like an 84 front war with everyone, made a lot of time for Charlie Kirk. He would've thought they were the best of friends as close as him and Trump were. But I will say, I don't recall Erica mentioning Bibi Netanyahu in her speech. The way he he's presenting it is like he was unbel. I mean, this is just the worst loss for him. But I don't think that that is the truth. In fact, I know for a fact that he is misrepresenting some things that happened there towards the end.

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So let's at first listen to what Bibi net and Yahoo, just one day, less than 24 hours after Charlie died, what Bibi net and Yahoo had to say on Fox News, take a listen.

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We're just heartbroken. Myself, my, my wife, my family, my son, actually on his 2019 visit to Israel, had lunch with him and his wife Erica. We're shattered first as human beings because a great human being has been taken from us. He's an, was an extraordinary friend. He, you know, he, he said, he wrote me a letter on, on May 2nd this year. He said, one of my greatest joys as a Christian is advocating for Israel and forming alliances to defend Judea Christian civilization.

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A few weeks before the tragedy yesterday, I, I called him and I spoke to him and I said, please come to Israel. I invited him to Israel and sadly that visit will not take place, but he was, he was a defender of our common Jude Christian civilization. He was unbelievably excited to walk in the footsteps of Jesus here. He, he valued our bond, the bond between America and Israel. He, you know, he did so many things to defend free speech. He had his truth. He stood up for it, but he said, you can, you can come and debate me. He invited that debate. He certainly didn't invite the violence, the horrible violence that tried to silence him.

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And you know, this is a worldwide problem. The, the people on, on the, you know, on the extremes, the, the Islamists, the Radical Islamists and the, their union with the ultra progressives, they often speak about human rights, they speak about free speech, but they use violence to try to take down their enemies. Whether it's President tribe, who's been almost assassinated twice, or, you know, they tried to kill me here too, but they got Charlie Kirk and it's just heartbreaking.

1 (9m 44s):
Who is they? Bebe? Who is they? Who got Charlie Kirk? We don't have to actually speak conspiracies. I'm just wondering because you said a lot there, but it really sounded like it was about Bebe trying to establish a narrative, a narrative that we saw reinforced by a lot of people that, you know, Charlie kind of made it almost sound like he died for Israel. I mean, Trump's account even tweeted out a photo of Charlie, an an American flag and also an Israeli flag. Would've AI used, you know, like this is, this is just who Charlie was. He says Judeo-Christian values. He spoke to him two weeks ago. Again, you would think he was busy fighting this 97,000 front war, but no, he's letting you know that he just randomly what picks up the phone and calls Charlie Kirk and invites him to Israel.

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How would Bibi do that? It seems like maybe there's a little more to the story. No, there definitely is a little bit more to the story. First and foremost, that letter he is holding up, he is severely misrepresenting. Those sentences are real. But I am calling upon Bibi net and Yahoo, the dear friend to Charlie Kirk, to publish the letter's entire contents. Like don't start with just two sentences, publish the entire thing. You're holding it. I'm saying you're severely misrepresenting the contents that in May Charlie was concerned about Israel and their influence on American politics and how they were pushing things that he felt were in conflict with his beliefs.

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Free speech here in America, Bebe's holding it up. Like Charlie just in May said, Hey, you know what? I just want to write a love letter to Israel. That's how it was presented. Would you guys agree that's not how it happened. Now regarding that phone call and that invite, that also needs to be contextualized, and I'm going to do that. But first, Skyler, can we bring in a clip of Charlie from a month ago speaking about the kind of pressure that he was under, because I think that will also help to further contextualize this. Take a, listen,

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I'm an American citizen. Yes, I want Israel to win. Yes, I'm a Christian, but like the sum of the mess, and you saw me, you've seen, I've been treated Meghan by some, not all by some. No, it's very

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Irritating. It's, it's, it's been so unfair. They were coming after you after turning point for among other things that you had Dave Smith there, Dave Smith is allowed to criticize Israel. You had both sides. The Israeli side was all

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Represented. You're not allowed to though. No, you're not allowed to. It's even worse than that. Again, I just wanna repeat for the fifth time. I love Israel. I want Israel to win, but my moral character is now being put into question, Megan, not my decisions. Not like, Hey, are you doing this? Is it smart or is it dumb? But no, I am a bad person if I do this. And it's a, I I could go, I mean, I, you saw it, Megan, it was trending on Twitter, thousands of tweets and text messages. And if I were to be charitable and generous, I will say the people that are attacking me are in a hyper paranoid state because they're at war, and war tends to make things black and white, and you're a hammer looking for a nail.

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So I'm trying to be charitable, Megan, literally, I'm trying to cut as much slack as I can, right? Like, okay, what would it be like if all of a sudden I'm starting to see a pattern of behavior similar to what my grandparents saw in 1930s Germany online? How would I behave? So that's like my charitable kind of over compensation spirit At the same time. I'm like, but you're, it's, it's not defensible to be dumb.

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No, it's not defensible to be dumb. And he was under an increasing amount of pressure, not just people telling him, oh, well, you know, I'm upset with who you're inviting. But flat out telling him that he was not allowed to invite certain people to his events. They were threatening to pull out money. Charlie was getting a lot of really nasty text messages and many of them pertaining to Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. But Tucker Carlson was really the focus when it came to America Fest. How could Charlie allow these debates about Israel to take place? How could he allow Dave Smith, who by the way, is Jewish, how could they, he they allow, how could Charlie allow this other position to meet the stage?

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Because obviously when people start to hear the debates, what Dave Smith is saying sounds so rational, but it was up to Charlie to not allow those things to happen. And those, that that amount of pressure towards the end, as you see, that hap that conversation he had with Meghan was just a, a month before he lost his life, really, I would say reached a, a pinnacle of sorts on the matter of what Tuck Tucker Carlson actually said on that stage. Tucker Carlson, while he was on that stage at Turning Point, brought up Bill Ackman. Bill Ackman is a billionaire, obviously he's also an extremely litigious billionaire.

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And Bill Ackman was on Charlie about comments that Tucker Carlson had made on that stage. Tucker Carlson specifically asked the question, where does Bill Blackman's money come from? You know, who is this guy actually? Who is this guy that has this much influence? And like I said, bill Blackman was not happy about this. And So I would like to contextualize Bibe. Again, these are things Bibe brought up publicly, which he didn't have to, he didn't have to bring up a letter, he didn't have to bring up the phone call, but he chose to do this less than 24 hours after Charlie Kirk was shot. Personally, bibe, I would've appreciated if you guys used all of your spy where you would spy on us for years to maybe track down the killer.

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But I guess this is where you thought it was best to do a little propaganda for Israel would be better than us helping us track down the killer. But anyways, so Bibi Netanyahu in that phone call, what took place was a couple of weeks ago before Charlie lost his life, Charlie was in the Hamptons and he had more than one event, but he had essentially what was staged an an intervention was staged by Bill Ackman because Charlie's thought Charlie's rational thoughts about Israel were a no-no, this is, this is not the route that you should be going on.

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And Charlie was surrounded by his friends, quote unquote friends. Bill Ackman was very upset and threats were made. That is what I am, I am told, and I will tell you that I am very happy for Bill Ackman to dispute this narrative. In fact, he was asked to dispute this narrative. Max Blumenthal went out to him today and Bill Ackman came back and said, I, I have receipts I can show you. And he did not provide the receipts and this is not how it went down. I know it went down this way. I'm waiting for one of them to go on record.

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And to say that it didn't go down this way. It was at this time that BB net and Yahoo was called and Charlie was invited to Israel. This was an under duress situation, I would say, because I'd been in these situations before when I started asking very sensible questions about Israel. As someone who had dedicated her political life to supporting Israel many times alongside Charlie Kirk, I was met with the very same pressure and just like Charlie was being invited to Israel, I was invited somewhere else. And when this arrived to me it felt like a threat. You know, I gotta tip that it felt like a threat.

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Like not like, Hey, come here and we can educate you because you're my friend, more like this is your last chance. That's how it felt to me. I can't speak to how it felt Charlie, and I know that Charlie was offered a ton of money in this moment, a ton of money maybe would fund it, you know, spend tons of money and turning point, I guess if it needed to go to a higher level, would would have gone to an even higher level than it already was at. And I know for a fact that Charlie denied that funding that Charlie denied and what Bibe didn't include there, he declined to go to Israel for, I would, I would describe this as like, you know, reeducation camp, you know, we've seen it, you made an uhoh, but we can help you.

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You know, we just need you to come out to Auschwitz and take a picture. Yeah, we just need you to come to the Holocaust Museum and take a photo. We just need you to go to Israel and we can make this better. Charlie said no to Bebe. Okay, bill Ackman, if you would like to dispute that, I would love to hear what you say happened because our sources and what we have, it's solid. Okay? There were conversations that took place, messages that were sent at that time, and they are solid. So I decided another person that was there, and I am not surprised this person was there. If you've been listening to my show, Seth Dylan, I wasn't talk to Seth Dylan and I decided to message him last night about this Hamptons meeting.

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And Seth Dylan, who was normally very quick with a response, has not yet been able to respond. I'll show you this text message chain and I wanna be clear, I am not someone who normally publicizes text messages, but my friend was shot in the neck and I'm just not really in, in the state right now to be polite when it comes to the answers that I am demanding. Okay? This is me out to Seth Dylan last night. I sent him Bill Ackman's tweets because you know, he tweeted, I feel incredibly privileged to have spent a day and shared a meal with Charlie Kirk this summer. He was a giant of a man.

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I said, any comment on this one, Seth? He didn't answer last night this morning. I said, need a comment asap, please. He didn't answer. Then I followed that up and I said, trying again here. You were present when Ackman lost his mind on Charlie and when Bibe invited him to Israel and Charlie refused text messages, immediately following this meeting are circulating. I find Ackman's statement as though the meeting was somehow cordial to be incredibly disturbing. Are you at all disturbed by that tweet? Do you feel as I do that this tweet significantly betrays the defined purpose and mood of his? And I presume your final meeting with Charlie Kirk, question mark, he was unable to speak to me, but he did place some frantic calls to turning Point USA.

1 (20m 45s):
Yeah, you see, I went out to Seth, but I also went out to two other people who were at this meeting and nobody is willing to go on record. They're all messaging each other trying to figure out a coordinated response to say that no, this was all quite cordial. But no one wants to go on record and describe it as cordial because they know someone's leaking. Because someone's got a guilty conscience about what happened at the Hamptons. So I will again put it out there, Seth, bill Ackman and to the other individuals who I have not yet named, but who are going to be named that are later this week who are at the Hamptons, when Charlie was put under pressure when Bibi Netanyahu called him and invited him to Israel again in a move that when it happened to me and it wasn't Bibi, Netanyahu felt to me like a laced threat.

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I am inviting you guys, I will give you my platform actually to come clear matters up. But tell us what really happened. Because you know, I think Charlie was definitely on the brink of changing some of his perspectives. And I can tell you factually, Charlie was praying the rosary, Charlie was going to mass. One of my last conversations with Charlie was me joking with him saying, just make the last step. Okay, you are, I said specifically, you're too smart to be a Protestant. Just take the last step, Charlie. And he says, ha ha, you're speaking about Mary. And typically when those steps start taking place, you stop referring to yourself as I did as a Judeo Christian.

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Again, it is mystifying why, you know, bibe was out there doing the absolute most to make sure that Charlie was basically remembered as I would argue, like a Jew has not been yet mentioned. I didn't, I didn't hear that. I, Erica was very clear that that Charlie was a Christian and I believe Charlie obviously was very much a Christian and that things are not being told truthfully. In fact, I will also call upon, since we're having fun turning Point USA to release the audio of what Charlie Kirk, 'cause I was in communication with Charlie at this time.

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'cause I knew exactly which donors were pressuring him and why, exactly which people that they were insisting Charlie allowed to speak at his event and why when Charlie did not necessarily want those people to speak at his event. Okay, I'm calling upon turning point to release the footage of what Charlie said to Tucker Carlson before he hit the stage. Before, you know, all of that craziness and the response to Tucker Carlson's remarks played out. Charlie was miked. Surely Tucker Carlson was miked. I know Charlie's miked the entire time at those events. So I'm asking for everyone to just release Charlie in his own words. I feel like that's pretty fair, right?

1 (23m 49s):
Let's stop saying how Charlie felt and instead if you're gonna hold up the letter, release it in its entirety. Okay, why don't you release your messages, bill, I'll release mine. Let's all just be very forthcoming about what took place. In fact, I'm calling upon Tucker Carlson to speak about that. I know what Charlie said to him and I am sure Tucker Carlson won't lie about it. What did Charlie say to you, Dave Smith? What did Charlie say to you? What was Charlie? Did he seem like he was treading in the direction? Like do you, do we feel like what Bibe is saying is honest representation of what Charlie was going through? This is what I want. I think that the thing that we need here, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

1 (24m 32s):
Now, does all of this mean that Bibi Netanyahu and that this somehow proves that Israel was involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk? No, we have no evidence of that. We can't say that because there is no evidence of that. But I don't like little lies. That's what I will say. Something that I always say my household is when there was one lie, there's 20. There's no reason to lie. Bibe could have gone on Fox News and he could have told the truth. He could have said truthfully that Charlie Kirk has always loved Israel. He has always loved Israel as the holy land. He's been here many times and throughout his career he has been a faithful supporter of Israel.

1 (25m 19s):
That's not what he said. Okay? He talks about the phone call and didn't give it the proper context. He held up the letter and didn't give it the proper context and lies by severe omission, I'd like to be very clear, are lies. Lies by severe omission are lies. You're not gonna gaslight us and tell us to shut up or call us anti-Semitic for pointing out the fact that Charlie was having a change of heart about the tactics that Israel was using in America and that he felt when he had left that meeting that he had effectively been blackmailed. Again, my platform is yours, Seth Dylan. My platform is yours, bill Ackman.

1 (25m 59s):
So if you wanna clarify it, we can do it in front of millions, okay? And I think that that's what people deserve because everyone has PTSD, we watched Charlie get shot in the throat. That feels a little bit symbolic. It feels like it. They wanted us to know that his voice was problematic. Again, I don't know who they is. After we take this brief break, we're gonna go through the investigation, which seems to have a lot of inconsistencies and, and holes in it. And we're definitely not yet at the bottom of what in fact took place. But I do know that I've severely distrust people who rush to misrepresent things.

1 (26m 45s):
And it's not a good sign when somebody has to ask you, as Greta Van Suster asked Bibi Netanyahu in his secondary hit regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination, it's not a good sign if somebody even has to ask if you did have anything to do with the assassination. Doesn't make you a great person, okay? And that's what she asked him. Take a listen

6 (27m 7s):
Before I let you go. I want you to address one thing and and I, it's just the absurdity of it. Some of the internet rumors that somehow Israel is behind the Charlie Kirk murder. And you know, I don't believe it for one second, but I want you to, you know, make a statement. It's, it's so absurd. That's

3 (27m 24s):
Insane. That's insane. Israel also changes the, the, the orbit of the moon. Israel pushes the sun. I mean, the whole thing is, it's not only insane, it's, I I think it's so absurd, so stupid, so stupid And so ridiculous. You can't believe that people are saying that they just found the perpetrator. They'll get to the bottom of this, but they, they go, you know, they have no limits. When you hate Jews, when you hate the Jewish state, you're willing to say anything and promote all these absurd, absurd rumors. And by the way, they're willing to to kill us all the time.

3 (28m 5s):
I mean, that's what they're doing. And you know, over the centuries when, when Jews, especially in the Middle Ages, the horrific Middle Ages, the worst things were said about Jews you couldn't possibly believe we were poisoning the wells. We were drinking the blood of Christian children, you name it. I mean, these things that continued actually up to the Holocaust, the Nazis said the same thing. You know, we're carrying vermin, we're spreading disease. And people believed it and every time they believed it, this was a prelude to a greater and greater massacre, culminating with the, the worst massacre of them all. The Holocaust.

1 (28m 44s):
Ah, well he's mentioned the Holocaust. Guess we can't prod the narrative any further, guys. Holocaust. So everybody's just stopped talking about anything. We, I mean, hey, he's the victim. It's absurd. It's just absurd. The Holocaust happened. You heard him. We're sick of this shit. We really are. And there will be no narrative that I will not prod when it comes to figuring out why people are lying about the states that Charlie was in when it came to the topic of Israel. Again, you can examine Charlie in his own words. He was starting to talk about topics that you're not really allowed to talk about when you take money and big checks are being written and that pressure was increasing every single day.

1 (29m 33s):
In fact, he was telling the truth even about Jeffrey Epstein. Take a listen just a second. As we,

4 (29m 40s):
That Epstein with his little friend Ghislaine and Ghislaine s father Robert Maxwell, who was obviously a spy of the Israeli intelligence agencies, but there was something else going on here. Epstein was not some sort of whiz kid, hedge fund manager. Epstein was playing a part, Epstein was a LARPer, Epstein was cast for a specific role and he played it really well. The sweatpants and the Harvard jacket, the kind of disheveled hair looking as if he was so smart and above the clouds that he was doing advanced mathematic equations on the back of napkins. But if you actually go into some of the videos of people that met with Epstein at the time, they said he was awfully unimpressive when it came to finance and markets and economics.

4 (30m 29s):
And it's nothing new that if you're in the intel agencies, you want to try and get as much blackmail on powerful people as possible. Easy, not hard. And this is no longer just speculation. First of all, the evidence that shows that Epstein was a creation of either Mossad, Israeli intelligence, American intelligence, Saudi intelligence, or maybe he was just a hired gun. Maybe he was just the guy that countries would go to and park a couple hundred million bucks and say, Hey, can you get one of the members of the royal family with a 13-year-old so we can get them to do what we wanna do? Members of Congress are actively being blackmailed.

4 (31m 9s):
The Epstein playbook is being used on a daily basis. Jeffrey Epstein was not a financier, he was not a hedge fund manager. Jeffrey Epstein was a key player in a multi-decade blackmail operation against the most powerful people on the planet.

1 (31m 31s):
Yeah, I don't know man, I don't know. It seems to conflict with Phoebe's narrative a little bit. Yeah, just a tiny bit. I do wanna say this, it's important because I am angry. I will obviously, I, I pray to move on from this phase, but it's a fire in my belly right now to those of you who think that you are going to replace Charlie Kirk, okay? Kings are born. You don't just get to depose and tell us that we're gonna follow this individual, okay? I'm one of the masons of Turning point USA. You put a shill in Charlie Kirk's chair in Charlie Kirk's company and you try to tell us to follow that individual.

1 (32m 17s):
I will be an enemy of you. I don't there will, there will be nothing that can stop me, okay? And I want you guys to understand this is not a threat, this is a promise. There will be nothing that can stop me. I will release every single text message. So to those of you who are trying that, I'm seeing the messages, I am telling you to back off right now. Like right now, don't do it. Okay? Don't you think about it. I know exactly who you are. I know exactly who you were that were exerting pressure. Don't you pretend to be noble now and say nice things about Charlie Kirk and think you're gonna slide into his chair, okay?

1 (32m 58s):
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1 (36m 31s):
Okay, let's get into what we know about the Charlie Kirk assassination thus far, thus far in terms of what the authorities are telling us. First I just wanna toss it to Michael Savage because the energy of this, what Michael Savage had to say about everything that we're hearing is pretty much all of us right now. Take a listen.

7 (36m 54s):
The so-called FBI, something's wrong. I know I shouldn't do this. I'm risking an awful lot to go up against this FBI, the Maga FBI. Something's very wrong with what I just heard. I mean I watched it. I was hoping that they had caught the bastard who shot Charlie. So we saw a video of a person jumping off the roof. It looked very legitimate to me. However, there was no rifle in his hand. Now the mouse does not break down very easily. Incidentally, for those of you who know weapons, something's wrong with the whole thing they're trying to claim.

7 (37m 37s):
He removed the barrel from the mouther and fit the receiver and stock in his backpack and barrel in his pants like all in two seconds. It is not easy to remove a mouse, a barrel or index it after reinstalling and remain accurate. We are not hearing or seeing reality. And by the way, the photo of the rifle allegedly left in the woods has the barrel installed. So we're supposed to believe a guy is on the run after killing Charlie Kirk and he pauses in the woods to reinstall a barrel and then he leaves it for us to find the the FBI to find. I don't believe a word of it.

7 (38m 19s):
I shouldn't do this. I know I'm putting myself at risk, but I can't take it anymore. I can't take the bullshit from this fucking government is lying to us. Something's wrong, something's so wrong. It's sickening.

1 (38m 37s):
A sickening is definitely the right adjective I think to describe how a lot of us are feeling. And all I know how to do is to gather information to research and to investigate and the nothing is making sense. Now, it could not be making sense because we've not arrived at the conclusion. The FBII will say, has recently come out and said they're looking for another person. Good. Because what we have so far obviously cannot be it. I feel I was insisting everybody read that book Chaos about the Charles Manson murders. And what we learned from that book is that if the government does want to hide something, what they do is they give you so much information that you can't pro.

1 (39m 21s):
You don't even know what's real. So many different possible ways that things could have gone down. So many different manners, so many people speaking, so many publications, publishing, and it's just meant to be chaotic, to drive you crazy and to just go, okay, I'm just gonna accept whenever the authority says something and not prod any further. We can't allow that to happen here. I won't allow that to happen here because this something terrible has traumatized the world, okay? And I feel as though when it, when it comes to this, the media, the government, the talking heads, everyone is confusing us about what actually took place with, with Charlie Kirk, this event, how it got set up, who I even, I even would like to know who picked the venue.

1 (40m 5s):
Okay? Here is what we know thus far and I will tell you who the exact source is and what video they presented. So the first bit of proof regarding that day happens at 8:07 AM according to TMZ. They have footage and we're gonna show you it, which shows a man at 8:07 AM so hours before the shooting, wearing a maroon t-shirt and light shorts as you were seeing on your screen right now, hands in his pockets. That is just walking outside of university grounds, okay? At now, governor Cox tells us that at 8 29, which is an interesting timeline, governor Cox tells us that that is when the shooter, Tyler Robinson arrived at UVU campus in a plain maroon T-shirt, light colored shorts and a black hat with a white logo.

1 (41m 4s):
So essentially he's saying that what that person we saw walking down the street right there arrived on campus at 8 29. I'm gonna allow you hear Governor Cox say that himself. Take a listen.

8 (41m 14s):
Investigators reviewed additional F video footage from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus in a gray Dodge Challenger at approximately 8:29 AM on September 10th, in which he has observed on video in a plain maroon T-shirt, light colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo and light colored shoes.

1 (41m 40s):
So what's interesting already confusing to me is that TMZ shows him already walking. We're supposed to believe he, he walked, parked his car and then walked onto campus. They're saying that after that video that you just saw of him walking, he got into his car and then drove to campus and then at 8:29 PM on campus is when he arrives already confusing. But let's just keep going. We don't need to poke holes, let's just keep going with narrative. Then we're back to TMZ and they release that at 11:49 AM they have footage of the shooter who has now changed his outfit. We're supposed to gather that again on a doorbell cam and he's in a different outfit.

1 (42m 24s):
So this is 11:49 AM Charlie Kirk has not yet been shot. Take a look at this, okay? And for those of you that are listening to this on audio, you are going to see someone who appears to be limping. Okay? So maybe he changed his outfit at some point and now he's limping and the idea that we're seeing floated is that he's limping because he's holding the gun in his pants. Okay? That's kind of what's been floated, okay? That has not particularly come from the feds. I don't believe so. But he's limping now and he's got on a different outfit, okay?

1 (43m 4s):
11:52 AM and we were actually gonna check this by the way, but I think that we had the FBI say that, that that was when he arrived on campus. Maybe that's not accurate, but, so let me just skip off of that. 'cause Skylar, we should actually look to research that, but at 12:23 PM is when Charlie Kirk is shot, okay? And 12:23 PM is when that, in that same minute is when we have footage that shows us that as the crowd ducks and it's blurry, the shooter runs across the rooftop. I'm gonna tell you why that's significant. So 1223 Charlie Kirk is shot and we are going to have an angle of that and the image of the black person, person in black rather, that is running across the rooftop.

1 (43m 51s):
Take a look at this, they're down clearly and right away look at that. Okay? And we have another, the footage shows us the the, there's another actually clip that I was looking for, Skylar there that it actually shows him running across the rooftop. You guys have may have seen it. The reason why that footage is problematic as you start to see them ducking and then you see the shooter immediately start moving across the rooftop is that their narrative is that he disassembled the gun and then started running. So that's a bit confusing to us of how he was able to do that so quickly.

1 (44m 34s):
An unbelievable amount of hunters guns, people that reached out to me and said that just didn't happen. They have exactly, as Michael said, that did not happen. There is no way that that happened. That cannot be accurate. Then, and this is obviously the craziest part of everything, we have decoy boy, right? So it happens and suddenly this guy, George Zinn gets arrested, he's making noise, he's signaling that he's somehow shot the guy. And at 1252 it gets announced that the suspect is in custody. So nobody needs to look around anymore because this suspect's in custody. But actually, I guess George Zin just does that, he just does that, I guess like just wants people to think he's done something or, and, but he hasn't actually done anything that, again, to me feels like he's a decoy.

1 (45m 25s):
Like, like more people are involved in this. And I will say that we don't know, but we know that something's wrong with this. Then at 12:29 PM we have TMZ showing us that the, there's a person running through the backyard. They are saying this appears to be the suspect running. Okay, now we're gonna show you that clip. It is very grainy. So they're alleging that that's him. We couldn't confirm that. And the feds have not confirmed that. But it, it does show you that someone's running across the back again, that's at 12:29 PM I, I don't know, we don't know. I'll give you some other facts that you should probably know just in general that they have thus that has been thus far confirmed.

1 (46m 10s):
The weapon they say was found in the woods and it was wrapped by a dark towel. Okay? Now, when they gave us a photo of that weapon, it was fully assembled. So this is kind of what Michael Savage is saying. He's saying, okay, so then he, they reassembled it, or maybe the feds did, maybe they're gonna clarify that they reassembled it for a photograph, but we are told that it was found wrapped in a dark towel. Then we have been told that a screwdriver was found on the roof. So they're sticking to this implication that he undid, perhaps undid this gun while he was on the rooftop and he, you know, wanted to make sure he unscrewed with the screwdriver, left the screwdriver behind, but took the gun, but then left the gun in the woods.

1 (47m 3s):
Okay? Then we get, and this has not been contextualized and I can't wait until it is contextualized. We get photos that are the shooter. This is when the FBI came out and said he's in a stairwell. We don't know exactly where that stairwell is. He's in outfit number two. So the outfit change has happened, okay? There's no timeline again, but we can discern that there is no weapon that is in his pant leg because we can see him bending one leg in one photo and we can see him bending the other leg in another photo. So we're unclear about this. What is clear is that there is a ton of cameras on this campus.

1 (47m 44s):
There is a lot of footage that they could release to make the public feel better about this. I mean, tons of different angles. I don't know why we're getting grainy shots at all. There have been tons of people online going through the tech stack of UVU campus and saying like, Hey, why are we getting grainy? I, why don't you give us clear images? In fact, you guys could show us an image here, here, here, here, here, here. They're not doing that. They're just going with this like grainy image and saying That's it. And you can get this grainy image, but we, we can't tell you much more. Now, again, it's an open investigation. They're under a lot of pressure. There is no question, I'm certainly not gonna let this go and I want the public to not let this go because you were spiritually impacted by watching a man be publicly executed and you need to keep that energy and understand that something is very wrong here.

1 (48m 39s):
Nothing they are saying feels good to me. I honestly, the thing that they said that felt the best to me is when they said that there's probably somebody else involved. That sounds about right. Two people maybe. Maybe these aren't even the same people. Maybe the guy in the maroon is not the same as the guy in the black shirt. That would make sense because why change your outfit? Both of these look like you would blend in on a college campus. So why are you blending in twice? Does that make any sense to you? Why would you change your outfit that is like a random fashion show while you're, you're going to, to murder someone. I just wanna change my outfit for funsies. And then we hear that Tyler Robinson, one, he is apprehended, it is communicated to us that he is wearing the maroon outfit.

1 (49m 24s):
Now, I wanna be clear, they said this was 33 hours later, so he changed his outfit. I, I mean ostensibly because he wants to avoid detection would be the only thing that's I think is reasonable to assume. But then he changes back into the outfit that he was wearing before the shooting. For what reason? 33 hours later, like no shower time. He just wanted them to know, but it was him on the camera. That's not clear to me. Why are we changing outfits? Are we just two different people? I think, I think it's reasonable to ask that question. Are there two different people that are involved? Another thing that's not clear to me is that the story that we were told was that Tyler Robinson allegedly, after speaking with the pastor, his dad turned him in.

1 (50m 6s):
Bill Ackman probably a million dollars, right? Thanks Bill. He really cared about Charlie and that money is now going to the father of this child who after prayer and speaking to a pastor, they're saying, okay, well we then, you know, he turned himself in that we were told he turned himself in. Now we're being told that actually he hasn't confessed. So I'm just wondering, how do you turn yourself in without confessing? Because if I say my kid did it, it that's enough for an arrest. What if the kid says they didn't do it, I didn't do it. Dad says you did it. Okay, how did they arrest him without a confession?

1 (50m 47s):
I'm gonna show you Governor Cox's statement where he says that the kid is not confessed. Take a listen.

9 (50m 54s):
I know you heard that report by Matt Guttman and this latest reporting in the New York Times, that some of the suspect's acquaintances were allegedly talking to him online and joking and thought they recognized him from those early photos. Can you tell us anything about that this morning or anything further on the investigation?

8 (51m 14s):
Well, all, all we can confirm is that those conversations definitely were happening and they, they did not believe it was actually him. It was, it was all joking until, until he, you know, until he admitted that it, it it actually was him

9 (51m 30s):
And, and anything new on the investigation. You say he admitted that confessed

8 (51m 36s):
No, not, not. Again, he has, he has not confessed to, to authorities. He he is, he is, he is not cooperating, but, but, but all the people around him are cooperating and I, I think that's, that's, that's very important. There were reports yesterday that, that, that, that we can confirm that, that his roommate was in indeed a boyfriend who, who is transitioning from, from male to female. That's, that's information that the FBI had had mentioned yesterday. We can confirm that as well, and that, that, that he is cooperating with, with authorities as well.

1 (52m 13s):
Okay, so I'm just not entirely clear on this confession element. Did the, like pastor just say he did it, did the, the father say he did it, but they didn't have any proof? Again, this is obviously they're, they're everyone's investigating. We, we wield to them. Do I think this kid was involved somehow? Yeah. Do I think he did this alone? Absolutely not. This story makes entirely no sense. And then there's this random discord over discord. Okay, so Governor Cox came out and told us that there were messages about the rifle drop point. Okay, discord says not the same thing. Let's listen to Governor Cox say that on this social media app, discord, they were discussing the rifle drop point.

1 (52m 56s):
Take a listen.

8 (52m 57s):
Investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson. Investigators interviewed that roommate who stated that his roommate referring to Robinson made a joke on Discord. Investigators asked if he would show them the messages on discord. He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages including content of messages between the phone contact name Tyler, with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush, messages related to a, to visually watching the area where a rifle was left and a message referring to having left the rifle wrapped in a towel.

8 (53m 57s):
The messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique messages from the contact. Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits.

1 (54m 13s):
Okay, so he changed outfits. Again, unclear why he did that. Unclear why he would then put the outfit back on 33, 33 hours later. Most people just like shower. Within that time, I did receive contact from one of Tyler Robson's classmates and they said that that was the strangest part to them. They told me that that was the strangest part, the 33 hour putting on an outfit that he had on 33 hours early because they described him as remarkably tidy. He was a tidy individual, so they, they, that flagged them as weird. Just seems like a little extra work again. Unnecessary, right? Completely unnecessary. You're getting nothing out of changing your outfit. We have a statement from Discord, which kind of disputes that Discord says, in the course of our investigation, we identified a Discord account associated with the suspect, but have found no evidence that the suspect planned this incident or promoted violence on Discord.

1 (55m 3s):
A spokesperson said in the statement, again, maybe they need more time and they're gonna get more time. They're gonna get a lot of time because it will be never that I let this go. It will be absolutely never that I let this go. Everything just spiritually feels very wrong here. Yeah, it feels like we are being lied to by who. I'm not sure are there some good guys? Of course, there's always good guys in government, but there are too many bad guys in government for me to feel good about this, And so ladies and gentlemen, we are obviously going to continue to follow this, to tighten up this timeline with the most UpToDate information that we can possibly have.

1 (55m 46s):
Everything that we could possibly learn about the father that is involved in this. The, i I wanna know about, more about the father. He's being described as a hero. He turned his son in. Okay? I don't trust anything right now, okay? I trust absolutely nothing. I think everyone needs to be investigated. Every person that is even mentioned should be investigating. We have a right to do that and we're gonna continue to do that.

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Also, in times like these, we are called to do more than just grieve. We are also called to act, to strengthen our resolve and to carry forward the values that Charlie fought for every single day. Love of God, love of family, and love of country. Nimis Skincare reached out to me because they want to encourage donations to turning point USA to ensure that Charlie's legacy does not just live in memory. It continues to grow. Nimi will be matching every donation made to turning Point USA, helping expand chapters across the nation and strengthen his mission moving forward. Here's how you can take part. Go to tpsa.com and make a donation of any size. Then simply forward your receipt to faith@nimiskincare.com. Again, that is faith@nimiskincare.com and Nimi will match it dollar for dollar. Charlie's impact was bigger than any of us could have imagined. Though he was only 31, he inspired millions of Americans of all to think critically, to courageously stand for truth and to live with faith and purpose. He welcomed us into a community that inspired courage, conviction, and hope. So if you are able, please go to TPUs a.com and make a donation and forward your receipt to faith@mimiskincare.com. Let's honor Charlie's life, not only with our prayers, but with action.

1 (59m 12s):
All Right guys, what are you thinking about? All of this kind of strange that nobody at the Hamptons meeting wants to speak about anything. Everyone's a little hush hush right now and trying to manipulate me into not speaking. Now is not the time. No, it's the time. It's the time. You know what time? As soon as a bullet was lodged into his throat, it became time. So there you go. I hope that helps. I, a lot of people, lot of people that I'm looking at, you know, I feel like you are not meant to watch your, your friend die in that way. It was so violent and I am angry. So it's the time.

1 (59m 52s):
Okay. Anna writes at Am Fest 2023. I went alone at the PBD Live podcast. I stood there talking to a woman for the whole hour the show was going on. Talked to her about my heritage Armenian, and she shared that she and her husband cared deeply about my people. At the end of the conversation, she let me know that she, she let me know she is Charlie's wife, Erica. She made me feel welcome when I was alone. God be with the Kirks. If there was anything that could rile Charlie up, it's questioning his moral integrity. Yeah. They're very, very good people. Charlie and Akar are fantastic people. Charlie did things the right way, And so watching these snakes, oh my, let me just stay calm. It's gonna get through this as if you're just gonna slide into Charlie's chair.

1 (1h 0m 35s):
Don't do it. Okay. Not, that's not even a threat, it's just a promise. I'll expose everything. I don't care. I, I will just release every text. I don't care. Sue me, don't care. Do it. Okay. Liberty Bell writes, so many people are talking about Israel for the first time right now. How do we begin explaining this to people newly wondering about Israel? What is the best episode of yours to recommend to beginners? Okay. Lot to unpack there. The first thing that I wanna say is I have been thinking about what I'm gonna do to honor Charlie. How do I honor Charlie? The best way that I can honor Charlie, is to insist upon parents. If you have the means, take your children out of these schools.

1 (1h 1m 16s):
All of them. Okay? At that university, when Charlie was shot, someone stood up and cheered. You do not want your children to be in that environment spiritually. This is everywhere. This was, this was a part of this movement understanding there's an underground communist movement and it is at all schools. I wanna be very clear. So if you can, and I'm telling you, you can, okay. Take your children out of these schools and homeschool. That's what I want. I want, I want to build this legacy by encouraging people to homeschool. Okay? Now in, in terms of specifically how people can learn about Israel, for me, judge them by their actions.

1 (1h 1m 56s):
How everyone feels when you become, when you're friendly with them. I mean, Dave Smith has a very good tweet about that. It's like all these people who supported them and then suddenly they come under pressure to effectively lie and or to go against their morality. That's not normal. There are so many books that can get you started on your journey. But if there's one that I would recommend everybody read, because you need to understand the beast that you're dealing with. Like what kind of lies are willing to be told and sold. I would say right now, my book club, and you don't need to join that, but you should read the assault on truth. It's a good start. Okay? To understand that Sigmund Foy is celebrated in schools as the father of modern psychology. He's the father of nothing but modern gaslighting, and that's what they do.

1 (1h 2m 38s):
They gaslight repeatedly, okay? Don't believe your own eyes when you understand how severe relies were that were being told that Sigman told Sigmund Freud professionalized in form of the psychoanalytic movement movement. I'm talking about parents that were raping their toddlers. He was covering for, then you understand the evil that we are confronted with, like what kind of people would organize and lie about something like that. Okay, you gotta confront real evil and then I would recommend you read David Bacan Sigmund Freud and the, I think it's the history of the Jewish mystical tradition. I think those are probably just, and that doesn't even get into like the history of Israel, but it, it will help you.

1 (1h 3m 20s):
I think that kind of woke me up and led me to researching more about the history of Israel and it started with the gaslighting mentality and the father of it. I would definitely read Shlomo Sand. There is a book called The Invention of the Jewish People that gets into Israel Full Stop. He was, I believe, a professor, a historian at Tel Aviv University. That's an important one. And you'll note if that all these books are, I'm recommending By the way were written by Jewish authors. 'cause that makes you aware of the fact that you're not diving into something that is, can be labeled anti-Semitic. Because I mean, Shlomo, these people were like in the IDF, you know what I mean?

1 (1h 4m 2s):
And so there's no incentive for them to lie. But if you just wanna jump right into Israeli history, I would say Shlomo sand would be a good start. The invention of the Jewish people is a good one and he took a lot of flack for having written it, standing up to neo historians, which is who we are also fighting. They are neo historians. They publish a lot and you're, you believe they're kind of creating this matrix of history that there's very little truth there. Kari writes, A death can do to the believer, all death can do to the believer is deliver him to Jesus. That's fantastic. And you are absolutely correct, Jordan.

1 (1h 4m 43s):
Jacqueline writes, pray for Candace Owens. As m Skim writes, go, Candace, go. But be careful. No one was more careful than Charlie Kirk and he still got a bold in the throat. So that's why I would like to say that Amanda Moore writes, contributing for the fight. May the God protect you and your family. By the way, these are really big donations that are coming in right now to me and I, I thank you because when I tell you I am, I will catch more lawsuits to get the truth out about Charlie Kirk if I have to. Okay? It's always people have is threats, lawsuits, contracts, lawyers. I'm sick of it. I am sick of it. Truly. I am done.

1 (1h 5m 23s):
I'm done. Okay, I'm done. That's it. It took Charlie Kirk dying for me to F Like literally. I want you to know F you like truly I, I mean that. I don't care. I'll expose everything you guys who are watching know what I know. So tell the truth. Just tell the truth for once in your miserable lives. Okay, I need to calm down. I told the priest I would chill. I did. No, I didn't. I actually said I just needed time. But I understood that my anger was wrong and Brie told me that that is like, you know, everybody struggles with certain things.

1 (1h 6m 3s):
Mine is vengeance and I have to work on that. So I would like to apologize for my tone 10 seconds ago. IPO TV rights. It seems pretty clear what's happening here and I'm shaking my head. I didn't follow Charlie, but was moved by his passing. A little something for security and no more over your dead body talk. We need you stay strong and safe. Thank you for saying that. And I am. I'm here. I'm here. I am obviously still not okay. I know If I'll ever be okay from having watch that, but I'm focused. Mandy writes Christ King and hopefully is returning very soon. Tony Hill writes, I constantly pray for Charlie Kirk and his family as well as you and your family. Their plan is causing division in our country.

1 (1h 6m 44s):
We need to take what they did to Charlie and come together to fight their evil, not each other. Candace, we have your back. Yeah, I know. I have been a little snippy because it's really hard to see people, especially going back into like every message that me and Charlie ever shared that did nothing but try to destroy him Like, like just the pretense of nobility stresses me out. It does, but I won't. Every week I will get better and I'm trying. I am trying to be gracious and not angry. Anger is my choice of motion at this moment. Divine counsel writes, Candace, I have joined you as a voice for truth. I changed my channel the day of Charlie's murder and I took my mask off a hard being, a black conservative.

1 (1h 7m 27s):
Please look into the book, the 13th Tribe. I've heard a lot about that book. It's about the origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, the CSARs. Yeah. I mean, you can also read their own books and they said they were the CSARs. So you know, I've covered that on my show extensively. Look up Abraham Pollock. He won awards for saying they were the CSARs and tracing them back. So again, we are fighting neo historians and you should just accept that everything that you learned in a textbook is not real. Which is why I say get your kids out of these schools. If you wanna honor Charlie, get your children out of these public schools. Not even the pub, the private one too. I wanna be very clear. It's a communist movement. It always has been communist. They need your children. That is the one resource that they can't buy, and that's your children.

1 (1h 8m 11s):
Okay? 'cause that protects their dynasty to be able to have their minds, to impact their minds, to lie to them. It is psychology. That's why reading about Sigmund Freud is very important to understand what modern psychology is and how much they have invested, how much time they have invested into thinking about how they're gonna raise up your children. Okay? It is wicked. It is evil. It is disturbing, but you need to know it. You need to know it. Read the assault on truth. Process it and recognize that when you grew up, you were told to honor that monster. Okay? Up is down and down is up. Question everything. We certainly will be questioning everything Kiara writes, Candace, after I posted my prayers to Charlie's family, I was blocked and removed by people I once considered close to me.

1 (1h 8m 59s):
It's sick. How many people I see in my everyday life that support such an ungodly act. Christ is king. Praying for you and your family. Thank you very much. Christ is king. The tributes around the world towards Charlie lifted it up. My heart. There is a lot more that I will say, but I again want to invite people to lie. First, I want to invite people to lie. If you have any more information, please send them to tips at candace Candace Owens dot com. If you wanna join our movement of the decentralized intelligence agency, you can head on over to support us in our work. We are entirely independent. We take money from nobody And so nobody can threaten me. You can head over to our website, Candace Owens dot com.

1 (1h 9m 40s):
You can sign up, buy yourself a hat, stay there. And we really appreciate that. That's why we're able to keep going. And I wanna say to everybody else who is lying on behalf of certain people, I know who you are, okay? I know who you are too. I'm writing that down. So try carefully, you know, 'cause I wouldn't wanna get caught up in lying right now. I wouldn't. I wouldn't wanna be you and and be caught up in lying right now because the truth is going to win. The truth is going to come out. We'll see you guys tomorrow.

9/11/25
To My Friend, Charlie Kirk.

0 (1s):
Well, that has never happened before. I guess we could say Charlie broke the internet one more time. 150,000 of you guys were watching. And the, the system just sort of crashed and it makes me, it just really makes me happy that that happened. Actually, it was already very difficult for me to do this for a lot of reasons, but I knew it was important because I didn't want the last thing that people had in their minds about Charlie to be the moment he lost his life. That was what was especially hard, because he's just had so many amazing moments throughout his career. And as I was saying, I was having this discussion with George this morning, obviously through a lot of tears about not wanting Charlie's caricature to survive when the actual Charlie Kirk individual, who Charlie Kirk actually is, is so much more important.

0 (54s):
The caricature, the cartoon is that Charlie's this young, smart guy made a career out of debating college kids, decided not to go to college, started turning Point USA, and I think a lot of people thought that Charlie must take himself a bit too seriously. And I want you guys to know that that could not be further from the truth. Charlie and me were always laughing. Yes, he was ambitious. Everybody knows Charlie's ambitious. I met him back in 2017 when Turning Point was this very young organization. Nobody knew who I was. Nobody knew who Charlie Kirk was. And Charlie was always wearing these really baggy suits. I mean, they looked like they were hand-me-downs from three generations because he was focused on the ideas.

0 (1m 36s):
He didn't care about his appearance. He was laser focused on what he knew Turning Point could become, not could become, but would become. He hired me on the spot. We were at this conference in Florida, and he and I used to always say, we, we never said the rest. The rest was history. You know, the rest is history. We say the rest is future. We were, we were totally locked in. And I want you guys to know about our first planning sesh. Okay? It was in the middle of Chicago O'Hare Airport. There is this restaurant that's called The Macaroni Grill. And I sat down with Charlie on our first trip together. He flips over this little paper menu as we're waiting for our flight. And he takes out this pen and he just starts drawing a map of what he wants to happen into the future, what the Turning Point organization will become.

0 (2m 24s):
It was sp tick, it was unhinged. It was the absolute best. It was true. Charlie, he was a visionary. Charlie was a visionary. If he could envision it, it was going to happen. He knew that. I knew that. And what he had envisioned was for turning Point USA to become the biggest conservative student organization, not just in the nation, by the way, but in the world. He kind of squabbled and swiveled and wrote that the structure's currently a 5 0 1 C3. And he's sitting there talking to me, well, here's what we can do in the future, and here's how. And then, then I'm gonna probably take control. The RNC, I mean, he's 23 years old, right? And he's talking to, speaking to me about how he's gonna take over the RNC, the person that he adored the most.

0 (3m 8s):
Like really? And never in a million years did he think that he was going to meet him. And of course he did was Rush Limbaugh. He was really raised on Rush Limbaugh listening to Rush Limbaugh day in and day out. And he told me through many conversations that if he could have a show like Rush Limbaugh one day, he would be very happy. That was, I think, his ultimate goal. And it happened. We had a, a bunch of rules. Charlie's rule was never say no to Fox News. So even if the show was at 4:00 AM in the morning crack of dawn, I cannot tell you guys how many hits we did on Fox News. I'm talking four hits a day up at 4:00 AM for Fox and Friends First, and then doing whatever the evening program was because he believed this is the way that we're gonna get our names out there.

0 (3m 51s):
You know, we have to work harder. My rule was like, I was like, we shouldn't drink. Everybody in politics is drinking. They're drunk all the time. If we're passionate, we have to understand that it's a disadvantage. People are always made weaker. I, it doesn't make anybody stronger to be drunk after an event. And so we didn't drink and we had a motto, a couple of mottos, but Charlie's was, we can always outwork our opponents. I can't tell you how many times we looked at each other and we said, we can outwork 'em. Everyone was bigger than us, but no, not working harder than us. That came really directly from Charlie. It was the thing that he said we could always control. And I, I totally agreed with that. Work ethic meant everything.

0 (4m 32s):
I think it's very obvious to everyone. I was the culture. Charlie was the politics. Charlie needed a little bit more culture. I needed to learn the rules of politics. I mean, he could tell you every office in the White House and what this person does, things I'd never even heard before. I was just passionate about Black Lives Matter. I just, I knew it was going to be harmful for black Americans. And I, I, I wanted to share that message. And Charlie showed me how to do that in the best way possible. I learned very quickly with Charlie that politics breeds unnecessary enemies. It is incredibly, it's disheartening industry. You know, you're lucky if you have one friend. You are lucky if you have two friends.

0 (5m 13s):
There are so many people that will test your character along the way. Like I said, I was a nobody. I, it was funny going through text messages yesterday and I'm like, Charlie, my goal is to have 50,000 followers on Instagram. I think we can do it by the end of the year. And after he hired me, he had been working already really hard on doing this campus tour throughout California. He called it the big three UCLA. We're gonna do Stanford, we're gonna do Berkeley. And there was somebody who was a lot bigger than me at the time, who was going to be kind of the face of it, because like I said, people were not gonna buy tickets to hear me and Charlie Kirk speak. And he had someone that they definitely would hear, speak, and for whatever reason, and this was just my luck, Charlie was pumping gas.

0 (5m 58s):
He was inside of the, inside of the gas station, and I'm sitting in the car and I see this person, his phone is sitting in the car and the messages are lighting up on the screen. And this individual saying, I, I don't wanna do this event with that new girl you hired. Like, I, I don't wanna share the stage with her, essentially just mean, I mean, just mean-spirited. No reason I'm bigger than her. I should do this by myself. And then if she wants to come on and be an auxiliary, that's fine, but I don't wanna share the stage with her, this newbie. And I remember Charlie gets in the, in the car and he, he looks at the message and he looks at me and he knows, I've looked at the message I saw, and I'm like, Charlie, I, I said, I have no idea like where this is going. Obviously, I understand that the sensible, you doesn't wanna lose this person on the ticket that this means a lot to you and you've worked hard on it, but you're gonna have to learn that you have to make the right decision and not the easy decision.

0 (6m 50s):
And this is only gonna work if we keep making the right decisions, you know? And I could just see the struggle within him. And then he just, he did the right thing. He said, okay, we don't wanna do this event with this newbie, Candace, then we're not gonna do the event, and Candace and I will do it alone. And we did. We went, we went at it alone. Actually, I think for that particular event, Dave Ruben hopped on and the rest was future. For two years straight. Charlie and I flew around the world together on very little sleep. We were always exhausted. I'm not kidding. We took hundreds of flights together. We slept in the crappiest hotel rooms, I mean walls. So paper thin. I could, you just hear everything.

0 (7m 32s):
And when you're in that capacity with someone two years straight, just traveling nonstop, you really get to know them. You really see them in every condition. You start bickering like an old married couple. Charlie, this is not how you pack a suitcase. I say to him, Charlie, you can't just like put your dirty running shoes on top of your clean shirts. Okay? You just can't do that, Charlie, you can't, you need to eat something. Okay? You're running on things. You gotta eat something, okay? This is not, this is not a full meal. Back forth, Charlie. You gotta buy yourself some suits that fit that conversation. I was like, Charlie, okay, I get it. You're like, boy, wander. You gotta buy some suits that fit. I wasn't the only one that was hammering him, him on that. It was also Don Jr. And eventually him.

0 (8m 12s):
And I think it was actually him and Eric. You know, like, you know, Charlie, I know you're very frugal. We know that you're very aware that your salary comes from donors. He always wanted to be a really good steward of their capital. But eventually, Don and Eric got him a gift certificate, I think it was for his birthday, to a fancy suit place to go get fitted. And the rest, the rest is future, right? I, it is so important for me to make sure that you guys understand how absolutely hilarious Charlie was. Charlie was hilarious, okay? He did not take himself too seriously. He was so good at doing imitations and accents. Anybody, any imitation, any accent.

0 (8m 53s):
He was just on the money. And all we did was laugh. It's all you can do and laugh. People were just so crazy all the time. When I was reading through the chat today, I was just laughing with just tears in my eyes thinking of the many road trips that we took. So many hours spent just talking trash to one another, making fun of one another. One of the best moments that I can think of, and there are so many to choose from, was we were driving through Colorado and I, I put on a Kanye song, you know, on my playlist. And Charlie goes, is this, is this Jay-Z I, I almost made him pull over the vehicle. I was like, are you kidding me? Okay, I understand that you don't do culture. Like, come on, you don't know the difference between Jay-Z and Kanye.

0 (9m 35s):
And he didn't. And I explained to him a difference. I was like, okay, no, you gotta, you gotta get into some Kanye West Music. Next thing you know, Charlie's really getting into some Kanye West music. He's running 10 miles a day. He got really into running and he's texting me about how great it is. Like there's this, this text Charlie, he's like, yes, it's my new fa, it's my new favorite song. And he, he just loved it. Kanye's power kind of became our, our theme song for the tour. I have no idea why, but that was our hype song before we went on stage. So you can only imagine when just a couple of months later, we've been listening to Kanye's old albums on repeat, suddenly Kanye West tweets.

0 (10m 16s):
I love the way Candace Owens thinks the excitement, okay, we were certain that we had manifested it. We were a hundred percent. We manifested this by listening to Power on Repeat. Actually, I found a clip of us backstage on that day when, when that tweet happened and we were doing what I used to refer to as like the Charlie dance. Here it is.

1 (10m 41s):
Don't understand like the divinity of that

2 (10m 45s):
In Charlie Dance Century. And there was something unique to it,

0 (10m 51s):
The era of Kanye, I can't even explain it because you really did have to be there. Charlie was my overly bright and sometimes really annoying kid, brother. I was smiling, going through my chat of how many times he would text me a picture and say, does this look cool? Does this look cool? Do I look cool? This is like just a screen recording of us talking about a pair of sunglasses he's just sending me. And I'm like, nah, that's not good. Nope, that's not, no, no. Send. Okay, that one's okay. That'll work. And this is actually one of my favorite photos of him where he said, I could just hear him when I look at this photo. I can hear him saying, does this look cool?

0 (11m 33s):
And he was wearing a pair of Yeezys that Kanye gave him. And he looked really cool. I thought they really suited him. I was like, yeah, you look, you look really cool. Charlie. The reverse of that obviously was him constantly hammering me on debates. I mean, Charlie was like, look, you gotta, you gotta know the arguments of your opponents backward and forward. I remember I had note cards like I was in high school, just, just memorizing every statistic and being strengthened by, you know, just day in and day out. We, he was just pretending to be a protester, pretending to be a radical. And he used to always say, iron sharpens iron. And we spent so much time practicing, debating and really thinking through what our ideas were.

0 (12m 15s):
Charlie never missed a, a meeting that he had. He wouldn't do that. He took that very seriously. It doesn't matter what the circumstance was, even if it was a hurricane. And one day there was literally a hurricane. I think we were in North Carolina, South Carolina at the time, I don't remember. But all the flights got canceled and we needed to be in DC by morning. And Charlie looks at me, he's like, we gotta rent a car. We gotta drive eight hours. Totally insane. And one of the most fun road trips I've had in my life, every single song was sung. We were always, me and Charlie were always singing in cars that show you this is from that road trip.

0 (13m 1s):
Then of course there was always some hip hop mixed in Ignition remix

3 (13m 6s):
In, I'm about to have me some she, once I get you out the,

0 (13m 23s):
You look cool, Charlie, you look cool. We really did go everywhere. I mean all 50 states, Canada, down to the border, the United Kingdom, Israel, you name it, we were there and there was always a, a new t-shirt to print out justice for Brett Kavanaugh Sense to be, how's this one? I love it. We just loved the T-shirts. That was the thing, the hymn two one that was controversial. That was a controversial moment. One of those character forming moments, I won't forget it 'cause that Me Too hashtag it just started going viral and people were emotional. And right away I was like, me toos awful. This is terrible for women. It's terrible for men. You know, just me being Candace saying the thing and left and right. People were hammering me.

0 (14m 3s):
They could, it was like, how dare you say that We need due process. We're talking about rape. And I remember he had young women at Turning Point who were threatening to quit crying in the office. How could she not support me too? Women who, young women who did quit. And then we had at the same time the YWLS conference. So the reporters who already hated us, just completely, they just swooped in there and they were like, oh, do you support her statements? And I just remember just being behind Charlie and Andrew Cova and he just held the line. He held the line 'cause he agreed with me and he knew it was gonna be a bit of fire people, you've gotta fire her. How could she say this?

0 (14m 44s):
And he didn't. He held a line and yeah, it just, it was one of those moments where Charlie, he had good character, but the prep for every one of those events, like even the Him Too event, it was always Kanye. Here it is

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Up.

0 (15m 11s):
Just literally me, Charlie, and Sarah, who was his assistant at at the time, just playing the hype music. Charlie and I fought a lot of battles together. I mean, of course, who could forget the infamous day that we got chased out of a Philadelphia restaurant by Antifa? And they threw water and they threw an egg on Charlie. We were just amazed at how quickly they had assembled once they found out what restaurant we were at. But I want you to watch him hear like even in this moment of shock and adversity, he finds a reason to smile and it's incredible. Take a look at this.

0 (16m 5s):
That was Charlie. That was Charlie, man, that was always his main thing. Be a happy warrior. And he was a happy warrior. And we were happy warriors and we laughed a lot at the protesters, the absurdity of the protesters always. I personally think some of the protesters liked that. Charlie and I were making light fun of them. I don't even know what campus event this is, but I, I love this video of me just playing with the protesters sitting in front of one of their signs and, and Charlie speaking over my shoulder. Take a listen.

5 (16m 37s):
If you aren't we wealthy white and male? Charlie Kirk is not your friend. What do

6 (16m 41s):
You think's not my friend anymore?

5 (16m 42s):
Are we not friends? Is that right?

6 (16m 44s):
This is gonna find out. This is how I'm gonna find out a sign outside of a thing, an event that we just did that you're not my friend.

5 (16m 49s):
Go figure.

0 (16m 52s):
Looking back at too many photos, I just have too many photos with Charlie. It's a, it really is incredible to see how many times he's just right behind my back. Charlie always had my back and I always had his, Charlie was right by my side when I started Blet, obviously he was also there the night that I met my husband, which was absolutely an incredible night. And in the uk, which I didn't expect to happen. I gotta tell you initially Charlie ever the analytical mind, what I told him, I'm like, oh, I've like, I think I'm gonna marry this guy first. He's like, wait, wait, wait. Like is this gonna be good for your brand?

0 (17m 32s):
Like Charlie, this is love. This is not a brand decision. And then he sat down and he spent just one evening with George and he, Harley was just the most supportive of everything. And this is our text chain. Speaking about that moment. He's like, his heart is wonderful. You guys are meant for each other. I see it brilliantly and, and clearly. And he gets it. He isn't afraid of you being you. And he, he's been through hell. And it was, yeah, Charlie was by my side the day that I got married. Of course he was by my side, you know, when I got married to George and of course Charlie fell in love with Erica. That entire journey to me when I was reading through a text is so funny because it was exceptional.

0 (18m 15s):
I was always leaning into Charlie's analytical mind and making fun of him. Like, oh, all we need to do is get a plan. You love Erica. Okay, what's the plan? What are we gonna do? What's step one? What's step two? And the plan that I came up with instantly was, all we have to do is convince her that her last name is terrible. Her last name. Oh, she's God, she's gotta marry you because it's practical. Kirk is gonna, Mrs. Erica Kirk sounds so much better than Mrs. Eric, miss Erica Francy, what is that last name? It's a practical decision. This is the, the tech chain from that Charlie and Erica Kirk. He says, it's gonna be the power couple of a century. I need to continue to pray about it. I said, her last name's dumb. She literally needs you to propose. It's way too complicated. He, and he said, I'm gonna tell her it sounds like a sneeze. It's horrible. And then I wrote, marry Me.

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It's a logistics thing. That's just who we were always making fun and always wanting to know what the plan was. And obviously it worked. You guys all it worked. Our plan worked. We broke Erica down. First came the name Shame, then came the wedding and then came the children. You know, Charlie really loved, really, really loved Erica from a time reading through the text today. Just loved her. He loved his family. He really did. And I just wanna say that Charlie and I, because I think this is important, never for a single minute ever did Charlie and I stop being friends. Even when the world demanded that from both of us, I, our relationship was, it was real.

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We were brother and sister, you know, it was, we were fortified. Our relationship was forced in fire. The fire of politics. I knew him, I knew Charlie, the real Charlie, and Charlie knew the real Candace, you know, and people knew I didn't like a lot of people in politics. I didn't like a lot of people calling me and doing the political dance. Of course people guessed it correctly when they said, oh, the person who probably was the intermediary when Trump called about brae was Charlie Kirk. Of course it was Charlie. They would never send anybody else to call me with anything because they knew that Charlie was a brother to me. And there was so many things that were said that were wrong.

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And we laughed at how wrong it was when people thought that when I had made up my mind about Israel, that Charlie and me fell apart. Nope, never. Not for a second. I said it's the easiest decision ever. Because Charlie knew who I was and I knew who he was. I said, Charlie, this is, this is where I'm at. And there's no room for movement. And you tell your, whoever that needs to hear it, whatever you need to tell them, because we're always gonna be brothers and sisters. You know, we're always going to be brother and sister. And we would talk about things and debate things behind the scenes. And I think my perspective was, as it's been throughout our relationship, might, you might not get it now, Charlie, but you will.

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I'm only a few years old, few, a few years old than you, but I think you're gonna, you're gonna see things my way. And I think, I think in the end, Charlie, Charlie was going through a spiritual transformation. I don't think, and I know it, he was going through a lot and there was a lot of pressure. And it's hard for me to watch the people who were pressuring him. I don't know, just say the things that they're saying. You know, I just, there's something about it that just feels really fake, feels really fake to me. And they would've allowed him to lose and wanted him to lose everything for changing or even slightly modifying an opinion.

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And then to see them doing what they're doing today, it's hurtful to me. It's very hurtful to me. But I don't want today to be about anything other than you guys knowing that Charlie really was an amazing person. You know, he was like, we were really close and he was, he was my best friend and my brother and I will never unsee the footage of what I saw, the violence of it. I pray for the people who took any pleasure in that. I would never, there's not a single person in the world that I would wish that on and least of all, someone with a heart like Charlie's, he loved his family, he loved his wife, he loved his country and he didn't deserve that ending.

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You know, he is really young. But I know that we will carry the torch. I will never allow the memory of Charlie to be forgotten, obviously, because there is no Candace without Charlie. You know, we came up in politics together And so I don dunno what else to say guys, other than a lot of paint right now. And I love you, Charlie, and you know, I'll see you when I, when I'll see you. I love you very much. Thank you guys.